1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This just in. Yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs are a 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: good football team. Of course the Cardinals can play better, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: much better than they showed Saturday night. Welcome Bird Gang. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, we look back 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: at preseason game number two. What stood out both the 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: negative and positive? Plus look ahead of the week. The 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: team will be in Minnesota, two joint practices plus a 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: preseason game Saturday. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six sixty four, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Budda Baker? 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: What Heart? 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable? 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: dot com Slash podcasts. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: He's a a ten half of five? He's it again 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: so far? 19 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: Harry Magic? 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Whoa? 21 00:00:58,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griol. 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Let me start with this. If there is any doubt 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: that the message is not being received from coach to 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: player or in this case, head coach to player, I 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: can assure you, Danny, the players are listening, and more importantly, 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: they are doing. What does JG say? What's his response 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: when we ask injury questions, how is ex player? What 28 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: are they dealing with? How they feeling? 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: Nicks, bumps and bruises? 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: All right, So earlier on Monday post practice, got a 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: chance to talk with Keanta Ingram, who missed a handful 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: of practices during training camp at State Farm Stadium. He's 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: been limited right played though on Saturday against the Chiefs, 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: played very well, one of the few bright spots in 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the game. So the question was asked, how did it 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: feel to be on the field? He answered? Follow up question, 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: In fact, it was our own Darren Norban at card 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Shadder because he always asked the tough questions, can you 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: say what you were dealing with with? Ingram's response, just 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: a small little nick, nothing serious, And that was the 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: end of it, almost word for word what JG says 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: about injuries. The players, they are listening and they are 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: reciting exactly. 44 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we've only got one more week of that 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: in the regular season. You've got to put out an 46 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: injury report, so you can only say nick, bumps and 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: bruises for so many days before that official injury report 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 4: starts coming out with practices. 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: So although on Monday's post game on Sundays. I'm sure 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: you'll be. It's only Wednesday, Thursday and Friday you get 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: that injury reports and then after that while you're you're 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: on your own. 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting. 54 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: I get it right of trying to protect them or 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 4: if they're out, they're out, right, but I also understand 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: from the media standpoint of the importance of knowing what 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: the player is, dealing with the severity of it, how 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: long they're going to be out. 59 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: All that stuff. 60 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Of course, anytime there's injury, it's always okay, what is it? 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: And then how long? What's what's the what's the ETA, which, 62 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: if you think about it, really does serves does not 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: serve the player at all, because if you get that 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: two to three week window or four to six months, 65 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: and if you're beyond that, then it's like, what wrong? 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: Did you suffer a setback? Yeah? No, that's it's a 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: window for a window, but it's not a definitive window, which. 68 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: Is why I've been saying this whole time. I have 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: had no problem with the staff saying that there is 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 4: no timetable for Kyler Murray's return because it is too 71 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: far away and you don't want to put that pressure, 72 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: that expectation on him and on his body and if 73 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: there is any setback or anything like that. 74 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: The questions still are being asked of the head. 75 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: Coach about again, you know what I I got to 76 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 4: ask you both, right, you have to ask. 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: That's your job. You have to ask. 78 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: By the way, on practice on Monday, it was a 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: short practice in the bubble. I'm not sure if that 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: was because it was two days after a game or 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: weather related. But some good news. Camera Thomas was on 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the field during the open portion. So that's good because 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: I do think he along with my J Sanders and 84 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: bj Jalari, those three did not play on Saturday, and 85 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: those are three young edge rushers that you hope see 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: a lot of time and contribute this season. So knock 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: on wood maybe during the joint practices or dare I 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: say Saturday's preseason finale, we see number seven or Ninember 89 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: ninety seven on the field and maybe MYJ and also BJ. 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 4: Right, it's interesting with these injuries of you're clearly trying 91 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: to keep them healthy and safe for the regular season, 92 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: right that's where you really need them. It's just interesting 93 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 4: because well, Cam Thomas it with some residual injury that 94 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: Nicks bumpster bruise that he had from the first preseason game, 95 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: but since he was back, doesn't necessarily seem like it 96 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: was something that was that he'll be dealing with for 97 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: a long time. But with bj Ojalari and with Myijre Sanders, 98 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: the last couple of practices, we've seen them out there 99 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: in the limit fashion, but doing more so on the 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: limited site. Right, They're doing more than what they had 101 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: in the past from a limited standpoint out there with 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: you know, doing different drills and more than they had 103 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: the previous week. 104 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: So it's interesting of. 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 4: Okay, you're healthy enough to go out there and do 106 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 4: that in practice, and obviously a game is different. So 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: it just kind of feels like maybe just airing on 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: the side of caution with those two and making sure 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 4: they are fully healed. We had seen Sanders with his 110 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: hand or his thumb wrapped throughout most training camps so far, 111 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: So I'll. 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Say this about this coaching stuff. Unless it's a serious 113 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: injury and requiring more rehab than just the post practice 114 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: kind of rehab, players are going to be in uniform 115 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: on the field going through team stretch. It's just a 116 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: matter of how much they do after team stretch, whether 117 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: it's more individual work and then watching, but every single player, 118 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: whether they are limited or not. I mean, you're you're 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 1: out there, You're not back in the training room, unless 120 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: again you're Kyler Murray your rehab work and then come 121 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: watch practice. 122 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's great. 123 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: And even when Kyler Murray's done, he comes out and 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: watches practice, not like he's doing his rehab and going 125 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: and having lunch and not you know, being a part 126 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: of the team, taking those mental reps and seeing how 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: plays and things are looking out there, which is great. 128 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: Again, we've talked about this. 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: It really just feels like everybody is buying into what 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 4: this coaching staff, this front office is not selling them 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: because that makes it sound like it's right kind of 132 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: a scan, which it's not. But right, everyone's buying in 133 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: to what is being offered to them. 134 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: We bring up Bjo Julari and before we get into 135 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: what happens Saturday and that thirty eight to ten lost 136 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs, you had an opportunity to 137 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: stop bj for an upcoming feature on Asycardinals dot com. 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: So we'll want to give you the opportunity here, Danny, 139 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: because We have not heard a lot from bj since, 140 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: maybe even the off season, but he is on the 141 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: field limited. But how limited was he with you for 142 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: game one? 143 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: He was not. 144 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: He He honestly might go down as one of the 145 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: kindest professional athletes I will ever encounter in my life. 146 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 3: Wow, so respectful and. 147 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: Kind and patient, like he was just so great to 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: be around. This game on that we shot that will 149 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: come out on Eazycardinals dot com and the YouTube channel 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: and social channels and all that in the midweek was 151 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: not so much of a game but more of a challenge. 152 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: It was just kind of something fun and really different. 153 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 4: There were like prizes and punishments essentially, and they pretty 154 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 4: much all revolved around food. And so that's what I 155 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: will say about the game on. 156 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Yes, So I have no idea what is going on. 157 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I just I'm like, I'm. 158 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: Enjoying the I'm kind of sitting here as we record 159 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: this podcast and my stomach is a little queasy from 160 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: from recording this after recording Game on. But he is 161 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: just so kind, just really interesting individual and you know, 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: working hard to get back onto the field. He gets 163 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: to face off against his brother Ze two, who's with 164 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: the New York Giants, So just kind of getting a 165 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: feel for the rookie more as a person. And you're 166 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: right because we haven't seen a lot of him out 167 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: of the field, but it was he was a great 168 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: sport I think we had a lot of fun. So again, 169 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: that game on episode should come out hopefully around Wednesday, 170 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: but but midweek, keep an eye out for that. 171 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: This is another notch in Manti austin Ford's belt as 172 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: far as the twenty twenty three draft class, in which 173 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: we still quite don't know what kind of a player 174 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: they are, but as far as a person and media friendly, 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior, Michael Wilson, Keith Treill, Clark, bj Ojolari. Now, 176 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's I just named you four and those 177 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: are the four guys that will three of them that 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: we've heard a lot from and then you with the 179 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: opportunity to get to know more about bj. But that's selfishly, 180 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: that's what we care about in the media. Are you 181 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a good talker, are you engaging, do you have a personality? Okay, 182 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: now we want to speak to you and speak to 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: you a lot, but you have to produce on the 184 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: football field. So that's where they have to come in. 185 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: And do the work, but we reap the benefits if 186 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: they're performing well. 187 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and it really, I mean it sounds so cliche 188 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: of you're not just drafting the player, but drafting the person. 189 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: And it really does feel like they have just picked 190 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: some incredible young men of not just what they bring 191 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 4: on the field. But you're right, I mean, every rookie 192 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: we have encounter with has been respectful and willing to 193 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 4: talk with us and answering our questions and isn't you know, 194 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: making us wait an hour when it's their turn to 195 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 4: talk or blowing us off or anything like that, and 196 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 4: even just walking around the building of like saying hello 197 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: and asking how you're doing. And some of them still 198 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: say ma'am when they. 199 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: Talk to me. 200 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 4: It's it seems to be a very very good group 201 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: of people that they have brought in as rookies. 202 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: When you're referred to as ma'am. 203 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: Yes, it makes me feel old. 204 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Do you immediately correct them and say, no. 205 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: I don't correct that because I figured like that's how 206 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: they were raised, right, And a lot of people like 207 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: they say, oh, I'm gonna call you ma'am because if 208 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: my mom knew that I weren't like she would not 209 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: be happy. So I don't want to correct on when 210 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: they've been raised and like have those manners, but it 211 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: does make me feel very old. 212 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Can I refer to you as ma'am? 213 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: No? 214 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: No, okay, no, no, just just a reaction, just the 215 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: look on your face, just fin you. 216 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: I would tell, don't call me that. 217 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Well that was kind of harsh. All right, Well 218 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: we've put off long enough. What happened on Saturday again, 219 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: the end result was not great, thirty eight to ten, 220 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: although at halftime it was seventeen to seven, so it 221 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: wasn't all that bad, but there was enough negative if 222 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: you will. As far as what Jonathan Gannon talked about 223 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: explosive plays, mistackles, penalties, he said, all correctable, but when 224 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: you look back, and by the way, for those that 225 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: might have missed it, working the TV broadcast, so you 226 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: have the sideline view of this preseason games. But the 227 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: difference between the Broncos game and the Chiefs games, outside 228 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: of the upgrade and talent in opposition and quarterback, what 229 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: did you see or not see? 230 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: It felt like there was a bigger drop off between 231 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 4: the ones and twos and threes really on defense. Just 232 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 4: we talked after the Broncos game of You can only 233 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: see so much in a preseason of what you're putting 234 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: out there, what your opponent is putting out there. You're 235 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: not really game planning for each other, so you just 236 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: want to see the basics of effort, tackling, technique, those things, 237 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: and I thought that they were pretty good week one, 238 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 4: and then week two against the Chiefs, tackling was an 239 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: issue and it just felt like, at least on defense, 240 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: you really saw that bigger drop of and again you 241 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: touched on of the difference of competition of the Broncos 242 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: and the Chiefs offense even moving past their starters. So 243 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: that was probably the biggest thing on defense was seeing that, 244 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: and the offense just you know, they struggled obviously to 245 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: get into the end zone. But penalties we talked about. 246 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: There was one pre snet penalty in week one. I 247 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: think they only had four penalties and then you jump 248 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: up to eight and the next week it just kind 249 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: of felt not quite so sloppy, but it definitely was 250 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: not as clean. I will say though from a logistical standpoint, again, 251 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: seemed like all in all, the way that the calls 252 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: were coming in and the speed at which they were 253 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: coming in and the energy and the effort that didn't 254 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: seem to lack, which is good right that that's coming 255 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: from the staff and what they want. The fact that 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator Drew Pencing went from the feel to the 257 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: booth to call plays and you didn't really see any 258 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: sort of difference in how the offense seemed to be 259 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: operating was a good sign as well. But tackling was 260 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 4: probably one of the bigger differences I noticed between game 261 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: one and game two. 262 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Nick Rolis, the defensive coordinator, calls it tracking. Most people 263 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: refer to it as did you take the correct angle? 264 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: And whether that was happening or not on Saturday, and 265 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: then appeared guys were just late a lot of lunging. Again, 266 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: how much is it was not taking the right angle 267 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: or just the upgrade and talent and guys were getting beats. 268 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Hope that they were in the proper position to make 269 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: the tackle and some of it. Again, you get beat 270 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times in this game. But tackling I'm 271 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: sure will be worked on, it will be stressed. It 272 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: becomes harder to work on tackling, especially in training camp, 273 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: when you're not tackling regularly. To make sure you're healthy 274 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: for game day. And then the penalties eight for eighty 275 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: two yards. There was just one pri snat penalty was 276 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: Marquise is in a false start, but it was a 277 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: costly false start because it was second and one and 278 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden becomes second and six. You 279 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 1: can't have that happen. So I'm okay with the physical mistakes. 280 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: It's the pre and postnat penalties that you cannot have, 281 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: and there was I wouldn't say a postnat penalty, but 282 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: it was an unnecessary roughness call in Isaiah Simmons that 283 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: stood out, and Simmons stood out for all the wrong 284 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: reasons on Saturday night. It was not a good game 285 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: for someone that this defense is relying on to play 286 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: that center field safety net position. And this is a 287 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: big year for Isaiah Simmons and to put on tape 288 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: what he did is not going to bode well moving 289 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: into the regular season. 290 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: Look, I mean fair or not for all the reasons 291 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: you said, the eyes are on him of where he 292 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 4: was drafted, what year he's in in the lead, the 293 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: fact that his fifth year option was not picked up, 294 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: the fact that he is no longer playing a hybrid role, 295 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: and he is working strictly as a safety and so, 296 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: and he set himself he wants to master one position, 297 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: so of course the eyes are going to be on him, 298 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: and I agree with you, I don't think it was 299 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: a clean performance by him. It'll be interesting to see 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: how much Simmons and the other starters playing the third 301 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: preseason game. There were a handful starters that did not 302 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 4: play Week one that played Week two, and all of 303 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: the ones played significantly longer in the second preseason game 304 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: than they did in the first. So I'm curious to 305 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: see what this coaching staff does with playing time for 306 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: the third preseason game. I think you're probably still going 307 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: to see a good split, i'd imagine with the quarterbacks 308 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: and kind of seeing what you have, maybe not even 309 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: cold but seeing more David Blau possibly. But in terms 310 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 4: of the rest of the starters like Isaiah Simmons and 311 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: those starters, I'm curious to see how much playing time 312 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: they get in the final preseason game. 313 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Rewatching the game on Sunday, looking at just the first 314 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: team defense, Budda Baker, Kaiser White, two players who did 315 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: not see any action in the preseason opener, were on 316 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: the field for those first two defensive series which was 317 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: a three and out, and then the Chiefs gained one 318 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: first down seventeen total yards. Buddha and Kayzier were on 319 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the sideline for that third, third offensive series for the Chiefs, 320 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: which ended in a touchdown. But those were the only 321 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: two defensive starters that were not on the field. Now 322 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: during that drive, Marco Wilson exited, the game, went into 323 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: the locker room. Dennis Gardek exited, the game went into 324 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the locker room. But for the most part, that entire 325 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: first team defense was on the field for that drive. Again, 326 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs, it's Patrick Mahomes. So all in all, 327 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: how do you judge defensively when people are pointing to 328 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons the UNSS roughness call, letting up at the 329 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: goal line when Shane Bouchell was about ready to score. 330 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: I know on the broadcast, Ron Woolfley was adamant, quote, 331 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: you want to see Isaiah Simmons lower the boom now again? 332 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Was he hesitant because of the penalty earlier in the game. 333 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: JG said he didn't believe so, but it was a 334 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: horrible look because you want to finish that play and 335 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: it looked like again, did he overrun him bad angle, 336 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: But it looked like you had an opportunity there, if 337 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: nothing else, to push the ball carrier out of bound 338 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: short of the goal line, and Simmons just chose, for 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: whatever reason, not to finish the play. 340 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: You know, this kind of reminds me just the same 341 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: thought of last year. I don't remember what game was, 342 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: you remember with the forty nine ers Antonio Hamilton, right, 343 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: he thought that the receiver had gone out of bounds 344 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: and then didn't. 345 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: And but this is different. 346 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: But that is kind of what I think of, questioning 347 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: what exactly was this player in this situation, Isaiah Simmons, 348 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: seeing what led to that decision, and and they're stuff 349 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: that we just won't know, but it does feel different. 350 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: And for the. 351 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: Reasons you said compared to Antonio Hamilton, the one with 352 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons, it's fair to have high expectations of him, 353 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 4: and that's what he has of himself, and you need 354 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 4: to go out, you need to see him put that 355 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: out on the field. And given it's only been a 356 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: few handful of opportunities throughout the preseason, I'm not sure 357 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 4: that we've really seen that quite yet. 358 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: The Hamilton play a year ago we all had the 359 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: same questions. But that was Hard Knocks in season, and 360 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: we heard Hamilton a couple of days later on Hard 361 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: Knocks own up to it, admit it. He screwed up. Now, 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: I know. Isaiah Simmons did speak postgame, but I don't 363 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: know if that specific play was asked of him. He 364 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that the team needed to play better, He needed 365 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: to play better. But again, you're gonna get criticized if 366 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: you don't do your job, but if you own up 367 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: to it. Fans, human beings were a forgiving race. We 368 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: actually like the fact that you're not perfect and you 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: learn from your mistakes. That's when that word accountability happens. Okay, 370 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: you got me, Yeah, I didn't do what I would 371 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: needed to do and that's an all walk of life 372 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: as long as you learned from it and don't repeat 373 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: the same mistakes. 374 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 4: No, I agree with you, And that's something will be 375 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: interesting again looking at this third preseason game because of 376 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 4: individual performances. Is the coaching staff going to play certain 377 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 4: players more than they had anticipated because you want to 378 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: see them correct those mistakes and see if they can 379 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: and see what good they can put out there. I 380 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: don't know, maybe Isaiah Simmons would be a good fit 381 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: for something like that of maybe he continues to play 382 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: a good amount in this final preseason game to see 383 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 4: if he can correct the mistakes from last week. 384 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: Defensively, it wasn't the penalties, It wasn't Simmons's play, but 385 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: jg Post came as far as what he was quote 386 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: most displeased about, and he brought it up. It was 387 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: not asked were the explosive plays? And you look back 388 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: at the stats. Eight plays of twenty or more, y'all 389 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: passing plays and all but one of those eight went 390 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: for twenty five or more yards and explosive plays. You're 391 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna hear that a lot, whether it's runs of ten 392 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: or more, pass plays of fifteen or twenty or more, 393 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: but seven passing plays of twenty five or more yards. 394 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: And that wasn't just Patrick Mahomes. That was all four 395 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that the Chiefs had on the field. 396 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's again just like as a whole compared to 397 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: the first week when it comes to pass rush, when 398 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 4: it comes to coverage, it just wasn't the same. How 399 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: much of that is on the Cardinals themselves, how much 400 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: of that is on even the Chiefs second and third 401 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 4: stringers are better than the Broncos by a significant amount. 402 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's hard to say at this point, and again, 403 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: the Cardinals weren't game planning for the Chiefs per se. 404 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a little I don't know if I'm 405 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 4: concerned quite yet, but it's definitely not reassuring that that's 406 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: what's happening in the preseason by any means. I mean, 407 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 4: at least you have a couple weeks, you have another 408 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 4: game to really know what you have to work on 409 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 4: and try and turn things around. And you're gonna have 410 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 4: some good practices because in Minnesota you're not just going 411 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: up against yourself, so you've got to get a little 412 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: more out of those practices. But there's plenty, I mean, 413 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon was not lying when he said the post 414 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: game there's plenty to clean up from that game. 415 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: The explosive plays are concerning, especially if you don't have 416 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: a pass rush, and Chiefs quarterbacks were not sacked, were 417 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: not even hits, they were not affected at all in 418 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: the pocket, and that again, there's a correlation there, So 419 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on as this team moves 420 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: past the preseason into the regular season. Offensively. Cole McCoy 421 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: on that first team offense on the field for three 422 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: series did not get any points. In fact, they failed 423 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: on three different third downs. There was a couple of 424 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: third down conversions, but unable to convert on third and four, 425 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: third and four and third and two. So the good 426 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: news here, Danny is it's third and manageable, and then 427 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: it's the unfortunate not again. Finishing the play, Rondell Moore 428 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: ran a two yard out when he needed four yards, 429 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: which was a little bit of a head scratcher, and 430 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: then there was the pass breakup to Train McBride, maybe 431 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: a little bit thrown behind McBride, and then an overthrow 432 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: to Rondell Moore on a deep pass towards the left sideline. 433 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: So again you would have hoped to see in a 434 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: little bit more. But as far as week one, Colt 435 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: McCoy versus Clayton tune, to me, it's not even a question. 436 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: It's Colt McCoy. Although Jonathan Gannon on Monday was asked 437 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: if Colt is your Week one starter, and the response, 438 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: again JG gives what only he needs to give. Quote, 439 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: when we need to name the starters, we'll name the starters. 440 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: So the quarterback battle is interesting to me because Clayton 441 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: Tune has an arm. It's not to say he is 442 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 4: the most accurate or perfect throws every time, he had 443 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: a couple high passes, but he's got an arm and 444 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: he can use his legs, which is something we knew 445 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: about when he was drafted, right, but you got to 446 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: see it a little bit in the first reason game 447 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: and a lot more in the second preseason game. 448 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 3: So this quarterback battle. 449 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: Is interesting to me because I have said since the beginning, 450 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: I do not think you just played Clayton Tune for 451 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: the sole fact that he's a rookie and you don't 452 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: think you're gonna be good this year, and so you 453 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 4: just want to put him out trial by fire until 454 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray comes back and just say who cares about 455 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 4: this year? Let's just try and get a high draft pick, 456 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: you know, and help Houston does the same. I've never 457 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: been behind that at all. However, I do think this 458 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: coaching staff really sees something in Clayton Tune. And if 459 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: you think that all things are pretty much considered equal, 460 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: why wouldn't you want to go with the rookie and 461 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: see what you have in him. I do think you 462 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: also take into consideration well a lot of things, but 463 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: also is what is Kyler Murray's true timetable to return? 464 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: If Kyler Murray, let's say, hypothetically, isn't going to come 465 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: back until they say week six or eight, does that 466 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: mean make you more inclined to start Colt McCoy And 467 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: if things aren't working you put in Clayton Tune or 468 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: do you want to start with Clayton Tune and see 469 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: what he can do? And if you have to put 470 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 4: in Colt McCoy, what if Kyler Murray's only expected in 471 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: a miss three weeks, does that affect. 472 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: Which quarterback between McCoy Andton you go with. 473 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of factors, but I truly do 474 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: think that this quarterback battle is probably closer than we 475 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: think because I think that Clayton Tune has a higher 476 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: ceiling at this point than where Colt McCoy is in 477 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: his career. McCoy obviously brings so much with his experience 478 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 4: and his knowledge, and I'm not saying that he doesn't 479 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: have the physical capabilities, but Clayton Tune just is able to. 480 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: Use his legs more. He has that strength. 481 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit closer to what you have in 482 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. So I do think there is a true 483 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: quarterback battle, And I truly do think that Jonathan Gannon 484 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 4: probably doesn't know who his starting quarterback is because it's 485 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: not just his decision. You have to talk to pets 486 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: and you have to talk to all kinds. You know, 487 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: there's so many decisions that so many points that have 488 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 4: to be made right when making that final decision. But 489 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: I do think that it's probably a closer quarterback battle 490 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: than we think. 491 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: Tune brings offer something that Colt McCoy does not. You 492 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: brought it up. It's his mobility. He bailed that offensive 493 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: line out a handful of times, had a lot of 494 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: Chiefs defenders in his face, able to extend plays, use 495 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: his legs, run much like Kyler Murray does. So you're right, 496 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: there is more of a similarity as far as what 497 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: you can do with the quarterback Kyler and Clayton. I 498 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: disagree with how close this competition is, at least from 499 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: my perspective, because no matter how long Kyler is going 500 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: to be out, if he's going to be out, you're 501 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: drafted in the fifth round for a reason. This is 502 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: not twenty eighteen when Kyler Murray, or it's a twenty 503 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: nineteen when Kyler Murray was the number one overall pick 504 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: and you hand him the keys, your fifth round draft 505 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: pick out of Houston. Yeah, you started forty four games, 506 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: But that's a lot to ask. Week one against the 507 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Washington Commander, Week two against the Giants, week three against 508 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I think you can do a disservice 509 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: to where you might lose that kid before he even 510 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: has an opportunity to figure out where he fits within 511 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: the NFL. And then the other thing that Drew Stanton 512 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: has mentioned a couple of times on the broadcast, he's 513 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: noticed poor footwork as far as how tune sets up, 514 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: how he's able to get the ball downfield, a little 515 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: bit more firepower to it if he just steps into 516 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: the throw more so, it's not a delay because as 517 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, windows in college, those are smaller, much smaller 518 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So you have to throw a receiver 519 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: open and that's easier said than done. 520 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 3: That's what to reference. 521 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: When he was asked postgame about the high balls, was 522 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: he mentioned footwork and having to clean that up. Look, 523 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it's interesting because who knows which of the 524 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 4: two of us is right in here right like, we 525 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: really won't know. I just it is interesting to me 526 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 4: to see what Clinton tune brings to the table. And 527 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 4: You're right, there are still plenty of things that make 528 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: him more of a raw quarterback than Colt McCoy, who 529 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: has what fifteen sixteen years in the league. Obviously, and 530 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that Colt couldn't handle being QB one. 531 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 4: He's proven that in the past and his career proven 532 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: that in the past as a Cardinal. It'll just be 533 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: interesting to see how this quarterback battle plays out. I 534 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: do think something else that was interesting from your point 535 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: about third and manageable was even in the preseason last year, 536 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: how often would we have seen the Cardinals go for 537 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 4: it on fourth down? That was a little different to 538 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: see now. It just kind of a different philosophy. Is 539 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 4: that offensive versus defensive minded? 540 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: Head come yeah? Or is that by design? Or do 541 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: you want to not show too much in the preseason 542 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: as far as what your fourth down calls might be? Well, 543 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: it's something that I don't and I don't think it's 544 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: a well, yes, the decision to go forward or not 545 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: is on the head coach. So that's a Jonathan Gannon decision, 546 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: and maybe it's a question for him, but it's also 547 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: a question for Drew Petsing because I think JG will 548 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: lean more on what the OC and DC have to 549 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: say as opposed to disagreeing with them, because he's basically said, 550 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: this is your offense, this is your defense. And maybe 551 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: I'll chime in every now and again, but I'm not 552 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: calling the plays. But again, going forward on fourth down, 553 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: I think that's Jonathan Gann. I think it's also Jeff 554 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: Rodgers as far as down distance, where you are on 555 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: the field, play clock, game clock and all that. But 556 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: what is the philosophy of this coaching staff when it 557 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: comes to fourth and short or just going forward on 558 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: fourth down, especially on your side of the field. We 559 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: got so accustomed the last four years after that initial 560 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: year in which Cliff would just punt or kick a 561 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: field goal, and then it became almost automatic, like I'd 562 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: even bat an eye fourth down. Oh yeah, you're gonna 563 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: go for it. And when he didn't, that became more 564 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: of a talking point as opposed to you gotta go forward, 565 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: it was like, no, what are you doing? Why are 566 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: you going for it? 567 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 568 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: No, I mean, you bring up a good point of 569 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 4: maybe they're keeping cards a little close to their chest 570 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: with it being preseason, but I do think it's fun 571 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: and interesting to already see kind of the different philosophies 572 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 4: and what this team is probably going to look like. 573 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 4: And you touched on Jeff Rogers and special teams as 574 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: a special teams coordinator. There was a move on special 575 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: teams kind of something that's not necessarily under the radar 576 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: but not talked about, and the Cardinals made a move. 577 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, Paul Calvic has made this the biggest topic of 578 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: the offseason and training camp, so I'm not going to 579 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: save it for him. We're just going to do it 580 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: right now here On Cardinals Cover two presented by Hundai 581 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, Matt Hawk has been released, 582 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: leaving Nolan Cooney your loan punter here one week, a 583 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: little over a week before final roster cuts need to 584 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: be made and you have to get down to fifty three. 585 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: It's August twenty ninth, So does this mean Nolan Cooney 586 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: is your punter week one or he's just your punter 587 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: for the next week and then we'll see if there 588 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: is a punter that the Cardinals end up signing. 589 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: I would imagine you would want him week one, but 590 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: you are probably open because right there is now just 591 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: one big round of cuts to go down from ninety 592 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: to fifty three. But it was interesting of preseason game 593 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: one verse game two of you saw Matt Hawk and 594 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: you saw Nolan Cooney. One was punting while was holding. 595 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: Then they kind of swapped the pre you know, the 596 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: next game. So yeah, good for Paul Cavici. Some exciting 597 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: special teams news. 598 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: Cooney did have a good Saturday night. He did better 599 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: than fifty four yards on his four punts along of 600 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: sixty five plus he had two inside the twenty yard line. 601 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: I can't tell how his holds are on field goal attempts. 602 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't have that good of an eyesight. 603 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm not. 604 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: I know, little stronger binocular. 605 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: I know the laces have to be out. But as 606 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: far as how that goes from getting the ball from 607 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Brewer and then does Matt Prater like how the 608 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: ball is held, that's again, that's a that's a bigger 609 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: conversation that is above what we see. As far as 610 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: how does Cooney get the ball off his foot? And 611 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: kick it deep. 612 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but I would imagine that Jeff 613 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: Rodgers is talking with Matt Prater and Aaron Brewer about 614 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 4: at least from a holding standpoint of preference, and I 615 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 4: would imagine they have maybe not a say in the 616 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: final decision, but I would imagine those two with Jeff 617 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: Rodgers at least express what they like and don't like, 618 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: and I'm sure that comes into account with that decision. 619 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: Of course, you talk about Nolan Cooney, you have to 620 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: talk about where he's from. He went to Syracuse University, 621 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: so that already gave him a little bit of a 622 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: leg up. No pun intended on the rest of the competition. 623 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: Yikes. 624 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: Just saying, by the way, Danny, are you packed yet 625 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: for Minnesota? 626 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing that up. I am not, Craig, I am. 627 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: I've still got laundry to do when I get home 628 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: from work. But you know what, our amazing producer, jim 629 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 4: I Mahunter reminded me that if I can pack and 630 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: a carry on for Europe for two weeks, I should 631 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: be able to manage Minnesota for five or six days. 632 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: I did also have. 633 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 4: A duffel bag with me that I won't when I 634 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: went to Europe that I won't be bringing to Minnesota, 635 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: so that I'm a little nervous, but I think I 636 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: will be okay in terms of packing. 637 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: There is some good news as far as the weather 638 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: is concerned. I know earlier in the week temperatures were 639 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: close to one hundred in facts, I believe on Wednesday, 640 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: that first joint practice, it's supposed to be one hundred degrees. 641 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: I've got good news for you. There's an updated weather 642 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: forecast and it's dropped to a high of ninety eight 643 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, ninety on Thursday, and then it goes down 644 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: eighty five eighty as you get closer and closer to 645 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: the weekend. 646 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm not concerned about the heat, Craig. What's the humidity 647 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 4: on those days because when we looked last I believe 648 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: Wednesday was almost sixty percent humidity. You know what, though, 649 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: I will say, you know what, it's going to be fun. 650 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 4: They have beautiful facilities. The stadium is beautiful. We went 651 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: last year. At least there's a roof. 652 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: Tennessee. 653 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: Last year was so incredibly humid, and it was an 654 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: open stadium and kickoff right as the sun was setting, 655 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: and of course right the opposing team is where the 656 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 4: sun is hitting your eyes. So well, that was still fun. 657 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: That was very, very warm, and at least for the 658 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: game in Minnesota, I know that it will not feel 659 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: that way. So I'm totally content with having a practice 660 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: or too where I'm a little sweaty. 661 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: And we're going to rely a lot on you, Paul Darren. 662 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: As far as coverage on Wednesday and Thursday, those two 663 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: joint practices are more important, at least in my mind, 664 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: than the game itself on Saturday, as far as the 665 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: number of players, the number of starters, because I do 666 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: think Cole McCoy will see a lot of action Wednesday 667 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: and Thursday and we probably won't see him at all 668 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: on Saturday in that preseason finale. So these two practices 669 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: may be the two most important practices of all a 670 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: training camp. 671 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon said at the start of training camp when 672 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: we were out at State Farm Stadium that there was 673 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 4: a no fighting policy. We saw that with LJ. Collier 674 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 4: and remind me who early on LJ. 675 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Collier and Dennis Day. 676 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: Right some little scuffle right, they were both sent to 677 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: the locker room. So I asked him at his press 678 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: conference Monday if That was reiterated before heading out to 679 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: joint practices, because it feels like around the league pretty 680 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: much every joint practice HA had a scuffle. 681 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: Would you would expect there. 682 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: Wasn't one with the Cardinals and the Titans last year 683 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: they also only had one practice and they practiced separately 684 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 4: for majority of that practice. But Gannon had said, you know, 685 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: the team knows the expectations. That doesn't change whether or 686 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: not they're practicing to gets themselves or someone else. But 687 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: in my gut, I feel like we're gonna see something, Craig, 688 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 4: something's gonna get a little keated. 689 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: I hope that's just my gut feeling. 690 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: I hope it's just some pushing and shoving, right. 691 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: You don't anyone to break a hand, punching a helmet, don't. 692 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Ball up a fist or anything like that, or be 693 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Ravens tight in Mark Andrews and Spotty slammed someone. 694 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: These are things I'm gonna have to tell myself standing 695 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: next to Darren watching practice with him just kidding. 696 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek against the Vikings team reporter. 697 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: Now that Oh no, my friend Tatum, No, she's a sweetheart. 698 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: I would never so no issues amongst the sideline personnel 699 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: is between the two teams. Just perhaps maybe the two 700 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: teams themselves, the players. 701 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, I could be wrong. I again don't 702 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: want to see anybody get hurt. I just kind of 703 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: feel like maybe maybe we'll see a little passion turned 704 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: into a little scuffle. 705 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: I like this tease joint practices on Wednesday and also 706 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday game on with b j Ojalori. That's the goal. 707 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, it's when it should be posted. 708 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: All right, go pack. 709 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm gonna it's I don't know how long 710 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 3: it's gonna take me. Maybe I'll time it. 711 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: I'll let you know, appreciate that, and then we can 712 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: talk about it next week. On that note, we'll put 713 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented 714 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 715 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim Amahudra, our associate 716 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: producer Cody Fincher For Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Real Lou. 717 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.