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Speaker 1: Times Suesday morning the start of mandatory Mini camp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: John's chair chairs. He's so excited for the start of

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Speaker 1: But when he tweeted this out, were you at all

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Speaker 1: The reason that you do something like this is to

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised too, because he arrived for

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Speaker 1: All that said, let's keep in perspective, these things happen

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Speaker 1: talking about a loss. But I don't think they dropped

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Speaker 1: very much from the version that played late last season

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Speaker 1: because he struggled well, unfair and though he did make

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Speaker 1: the big play out here that stopped the Colds drive.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he had the pick six in Miami, which

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Speaker 1: was not again a huge game in terms of impact

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Speaker 1: and things like that. So he made some plays last year,

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Speaker 1: but overall he wasn't nearly the same guy that he

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Speaker 1: was and that team is awful. But you can replace

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Speaker 1: the version it was playing at the end of the

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Speaker 1: last sea. You can replace him with that kid, right absolutely.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the other side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: The offensive depth chart as Jaguars dot Com sees it

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Speaker 1: in training camp. Let's take a look quarterback. Obviously Nick Foles,

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Speaker 1: the guy you paid running back Leonard for nets depending

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Speaker 1: on health. Wide receiver Marquise Lee, Dede Westbrook Titans, Josh

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Speaker 1: Oliver and Jeff Swain. That's where things get interesting. Guys

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Speaker 1: Can and Juwan Taylor Tighten. It's very obvious during ots

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Speaker 1: that those are one and two right now. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think they're the guys. Think. I think where it's going

448
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Speaker 1: to be interesting is wide receiver. We have two listed.

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Speaker 1: I kind of look at the wide receiver position Brian

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Speaker 1: and inc for I'm not sure which is four' gonna

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Speaker 1: start thinky West is gonna start, but I'm really not

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Speaker 1: sure after that. Mark Easley had be very surprised. He

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Speaker 1: starts the opener, just gonna think, give me we brought

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Speaker 1: along slowly. But what happens after that? Chart Conley, Lee,

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Speaker 1: even Cole, I think that's going to be a position

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Speaker 1: that really plays that. I think. I think Goshlan's right.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the two tight ends are dead,

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Speaker 1: Soild wants to be the starters. Yeah, it's so distinct

459
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Speaker 1: when you watch those two guys, those two on the

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Speaker 1: practice field, you know neither one was here last year,

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Speaker 1: and both of them are better, make more plays, flash

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Speaker 1: more than the two guys that were here. O'Shaughnessy and Koyak.

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Speaker 1: Here's what strikes me looking at the depth chart, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars first four draft picks this year are all plugged

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Speaker 1: into starting rules. Now. Josh Allen is more of a

466
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Speaker 1: rotational starter, and we're doing the plugging in here because

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Speaker 1: this is not their official depth chart. But first round

468
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Speaker 1: pick is going to be an impact player. Your second

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Speaker 1: round pick is going to be your starting right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Your third round pick is going to be your starting

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Speaker 1: tight end, and your fourth well, he was your sec

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Speaker 1: and third top of the fourth essentially is going to

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Speaker 1: be your weak side linebacker. Hey, if those guys all start,

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Speaker 1: that's some good draft. That's draft long as they're all

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Speaker 1: good players. But you know that's some smart drafting. That's

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Speaker 1: just because they started, that's true. But I would think

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Speaker 1: that you would bet that those three guys at the top,

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Speaker 1: especially are guys who can play. I hope so, especially

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Speaker 1: since we talked about when the draft was leading up

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Speaker 1: that you needed to address the needs of this team.

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Speaker 1: And if all those guys start, you definitely didn't. That's

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Speaker 1: need in value coming together, which is what coaches and

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Speaker 1: general managers talk about all the time in the draft.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mr Chair, Okay, are you ready? I don't

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Speaker 1: But yeah, do either Do any of those first three

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Speaker 1: with the number seven overall pick. Yeah. I get why

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at this you would think that as

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Speaker 1: a factor. But when you really dig deeper into it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Josh Allen being selected made unique mad again, Brian,

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Speaker 1: I can understand how on the surface you could see

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Speaker 1: that and think, okay, well they drafted his replacement. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't like that, so he's at But I think those

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Speaker 1: two are separate issues. He's not here because he wants

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Speaker 1: a new contract, uh, separate from the fact that they

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Speaker 1: drafted Josh at Well, let me take it from the

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Speaker 1: other angle. He would have more leverage in my educated

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Speaker 1: opinion if they had not drafted Josh Allen to hold out,

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Speaker 1: because they wouldn't have that edge rusher in camp. Right,

541
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Speaker 1: he would be staying away and saying, see what you're missing?

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Speaker 1: You don't have anyone like me. Well, now they've got

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen who plays the same spot and is bigger, longer,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably more the prototypical edge rusher, and he's

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Speaker 1: in camp. See, I think him being drafted, he would

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Speaker 1: send me into camp because I want to hold my own.

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Speaker 1: That's not the again. My guess is that may come

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Speaker 1: into play in training camp once the pads go on.

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Speaker 1: What he's missing now is in camp. So what happens

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Speaker 1: you think in camp? Then if a deal doesn't get done,

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Speaker 1: you think he shows up day one, and that's a

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Speaker 1: million dollar question. I would have thought so, by the

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Speaker 1: way he spoke at the beginning O t A. S Um,

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Speaker 1: I would think he would. But I thought he would

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Speaker 1: be here for this too. You know, it's interesting you

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and you're right. He doesn't have the financial

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Speaker 1: comfort level that Jalen Ramsey does because he didn't get

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Speaker 1: a number five overall contract. So he's leaving money on

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Speaker 1: the table. But he's not leaving seven million dollars on

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Speaker 1: the table if he holds out right. He's leaving what

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Speaker 1: probably one million one point to something. So so for him,

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Speaker 1: he might be able to sit tight and Sam worth

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Speaker 1: more than that, and I'm not going to risk the

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Speaker 1: injury to that. I'll pass on that money to get

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Speaker 1: to a contract and I'll wait until they come to

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Speaker 1: He's got leverage right now. The Jaguars have leverage right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a really interesting point. They've got the seventh overall

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Speaker 1: pick from the draft. He's got twenty nine and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks in three years. Who's gonna blink first? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it would be interesting because there the other side

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Speaker 1: of that is, I don't think it's gonna get to this.

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Speaker 1: But if he starts taking the approach of well I'm

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Speaker 1: going to approve, I'm gonna go sign somewhere else, Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't if he holds out this seat. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: holdout this season long. He still needs a good season

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Speaker 1: this year. If if nothing happens before this year, he

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Speaker 1: still needs a good season this year to have a contracts.

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Speaker 1: So he could hold out all season and not go

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Speaker 1: sign anywhere else and it's not gonna happen. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't hold out all season, but well I can't. I

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Speaker 1: can't see it. I'm saying he needs to be in camp,

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Speaker 1: but he he needs to have another big year. If

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Speaker 1: he doesn't sign the contract before this season and it's

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Speaker 1: next offseason, he doesn't want to go into that with

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Speaker 1: a six SAX season. He has to play a fourth

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Speaker 1: season in Jacksonville if he wants to get to the

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Speaker 1: big money. Now, he'd liked the big money before having

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Speaker 1: to play that for the obvious reason, right, but he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have as much leverage as they do, and he's

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Speaker 1: right on the cusp right now of being a big

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Speaker 1: time league player. You need that one more year to

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Speaker 1: bounce over the ledge. In my opinion. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to JT from Fort Worth, Texas. And so the

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Speaker 1: holdout's plural begin well, and he may be right. Um,

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Speaker 1: this is typically what This is not an unusual thing

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Speaker 1: when you've drafted good players and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: wide open salary cap. I mean, this is the reality

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Things have to fit, puzzle pieces have

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Speaker 1: to go in. This is not as easy a decision.

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Speaker 1: I keep getting from people say, well, they paid all

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Speaker 1: these guys before they gave boy A money three years

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Speaker 1: ago or tw years ago, they gave them Lee Jackson,

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Speaker 1: all this money they gave so Blake and all this.

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Speaker 1: The salary cap was much more wide open with many

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Speaker 1: the decisions. So these are different decisions. Yeah, you're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna have some holdouts and some and some conflict at

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Speaker 1: this point because there's players you want to sign, but

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Speaker 1: you may not want to sign for as much as

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Speaker 1: they want. So the process of making those numbers meet

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Speaker 1: is not as easy as saying, sure, you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: give you. You know, where's the hundred million dollars keep getting,

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Speaker 1: you know, pay the man, pay the man. Pay. Well,

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Speaker 1: It's not as easy as just like when you walk

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Speaker 1: in the Peacabs office and say I want a million dollars? Well,

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Speaker 1: is that? Just pay Ashley? It's okay, what can we

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Speaker 1: make this for it? So it's not as easy as

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Speaker 1: John right Well and shatter. A couple of thoughts on this.

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Speaker 1: The first is, um, they didn't have these problems and

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Speaker 1: people aren't used to dealing with him when the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: didn't draft very well. Right Uh. Every team in the

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Speaker 1: league handles this. Everybody deals with the holdouts. The second

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Speaker 1: point is you can't keep everybody. Football is a game

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Speaker 1: of replacement, not maintenance. Guys get older contracts, get heavier, salary,

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Speaker 1: cap grows, but still it's a game of replacement. Now

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Speaker 1: you want the ultimate leverage. No one wants to hear

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Speaker 1: this because everyone think Jennie and a half sacks get it.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's the seventh overall pick in the draft, thought

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Speaker 1: to be a special player. You have the leverage as

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. You don't have to pay unique. You might

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Speaker 1: not be able to pay him what you want and

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Speaker 1: keep the other pieces in place. You wanted Nick Foles,

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Speaker 1: you got him. He's a hundred million dollar contract. That

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Speaker 1: takes away from your ability to sign someone else. And

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Speaker 1: maybe that someone else is unique. Now you can go

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Speaker 1: and blame me. Well, they wouldn't have that problem if

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Speaker 1: they hadn't paid like Bordles, water under the bridge, deal

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Speaker 1: with the here and the now, unique and pay want

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Speaker 1: We're wrapping this show up for a while. We won't

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Speaker 1: As you can see, he's falling out of his chair.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start top tweets the players sticking up

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Speaker 1: Free Unique and Gothway wanting the Jaguars to pay the man.

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Speaker 1: And of course the number one guy is Jalen Ramsey

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Speaker 1: posting on his Instagram story yesterday, ready to see my

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Speaker 1: brother get what he has earned. Pay him at Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Leonard for that, also tweeting out pay the man at

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Speaker 1: Unique and Gockway. Unique and Gockway retweeall of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but we haven't seen anything else from you Contwan a

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Speaker 1: social media other than him retweeting what his teammates have

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Speaker 1: said about here's one other players to get paid. It

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Speaker 1: lifts the market for everyone. Get it, totally get it?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, and yeah, and Unique is well regarded,

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Speaker 1: well respected, good guy in the locker room. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: not This is no surprise whatsoever. However, Jalen, it's easy

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Speaker 1: be able to say, just pay him well. And the

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Speaker 1: numbers say twenty nine and a half sacks. Pay him,

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Speaker 1: But what is the overall cap strategies say, how do

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Speaker 1: we keep the best players on this team together for

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Speaker 1: the longest period of time? Right, And nobody in the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars organization, and nobody's sitting at this desk made me

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Speaker 1: prian or Ashal think that he shouldn't get paid. He

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Speaker 1: definitely earned the money getting paid. He's earned a huge raise.

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Speaker 1: I think the question for the Jaguars is how huge.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I don't know if they're willing

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Speaker 1: That's what he wants, right, right, So again, it's not

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Speaker 1: a question where I think he should be paid more.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's had a question pay man, pay pay.

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Speaker 1: It's a question of how much can you pay the man?

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Speaker 1: You know you can you go to this point and yeah,

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Speaker 1: in Saint since January, it's it's a tougher issue then

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Speaker 1: the fans want it to be. And it's made tougher

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Speaker 1: by the presence of Jalen Ramsey because when you look

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Speaker 1: at the markets, Lawrence, who got paid big dollars in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: Do they have a twenty million dollar defensive back. They

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Speaker 1: do not. So when you want to start looking at

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Speaker 1: they're starting pass rushing end, look and find out whether

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Speaker 1: they've got a corner that they have to pay that

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Speaker 1: because now there's a twenty million dollar quarterback in town.

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Speaker 1: You have to put all those pieces in place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. Whenever you read the articles yesterday about Unique

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Speaker 1: and all these other teams paid this. But it is

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Speaker 1: you're looking at that. No. No, and to be fair,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at Joey Bosa has one fewer sack, right,

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Speaker 1: that was a prominent tweet student. These these are not

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Speaker 1: guy that Joey Bose is. They're not the same. He

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Speaker 1: presence of Jalen Ramsey, there is no other presence and

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Speaker 1: trance more Jalen like then this yesterday morning when he

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Speaker 1: Jalen Rams, which we always enjoy. I have so many questions. One,

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Speaker 1: that's drop top? Why the baby sky blue sweatsuit? Just

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Speaker 1: why you ugly bleep boy? And it's true he drove

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Speaker 1: we'll top was still down. New Adida's deal track suit

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Speaker 1: that would really throw them through a loop. I like

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Speaker 1: the blue Yeah, and this is a Max Hawkman production.

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Speaker 1: By the way, no other production involving Jalen does not

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Speaker 1: include Max Hawkman. Shocking, isn't it. So I guess he's

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Speaker 1: working for AIDS. Yeah, I guess that's the breaking news.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear from the Adida's man later on

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com Press conference. Wrapping up practice number

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Speaker 1: one day for veteran mandatory mini camp, and we won't

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