Speaker 1: I don't see them as all in for Terek's school
Speaker 1: right now. But God forbid any of those four starters,
Speaker 1: whether it's Stellar Glass Now and Rehab or you have
Speaker 1: a Motoro Tani, anyone goes down that's going to switch
Speaker 1: their thinking immediately.
Speaker 2: Hey everybody, and welcome to a live, brand new edition
Speaker 2: of Dodgers Territory on this Thursday, July ninth. Climt Passy
Speaker 2: is Katie Wu Alana Riso with you for the next
Speaker 2: at least half an hour. Get your thoughts in in
Speaker 2: the chat. We love to hear from you, guys. We
Speaker 2: appreciate it a lot. To get to today as we
Speaker 2: get ready to have a day off and then start
Speaker 2: the final series of the regular season. Let's get to
Speaker 2: the big ticket.
Speaker 3: Clinton.
Speaker 2: I had a little bit of a discussion about this
Speaker 2: last night on the postgame show. Katie did as well
Speaker 2: in her article on The Athletic. But talking about taking
Speaker 2: two of three from the Rockies wasn't easy, Katie Wu.
Speaker 2: But they did get it done. What do you think
Speaker 2: is where I can't talk. What's your opinion on the
Speaker 2: series with the rock Show.
Speaker 1: I think everyone's just kind of glad it's over. That
Speaker 1: series felt tough. I think the Rockies played the Dodgers
Speaker 1: pretty competitively, and the Dodgers kind of gone their own
Speaker 1: way at times. But look, we're here on July ninth
Speaker 1: with the fourteen game lead in the NL West. Guys
Speaker 1: are tired. We're tired, everyone's tired. They have built this
Speaker 1: company lead in the division so that they can have
Speaker 1: series like this. They ended up winning the series overall.
Speaker 1: You can't sweep every team.
Speaker 3: Was it pretty? It was not. Did they get the
Speaker 3: job done at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: They did, and we were due for an extra innings game.
Speaker 1: Our good fortune could only last for so long. For me,
Speaker 1: that was the biggest blow was extra innings on Monday.
Speaker 1: But like the Dodgers, we prevail the.
Speaker 2: First time all season extra in ns and then Dalton
Speaker 2: Rushing with the walk off win on the first extra
Speaker 2: innings game of the season. We'll take that every time. Clint,
Speaker 2: you're watching every game as well. You mentioned it too.
Speaker 2: It was interesting the forest innings, four sextra innings on
Speaker 2: Monday Tuesday of the lost late Wednesday, just enough to
Speaker 2: beat it. You've said this before. Good time for the
Speaker 2: All Star break to happen to this team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the offense Dodgers as a whole looking a little
Speaker 4: bit sluggish. We're seeing some uncharacteristic errors in there, you know,
Speaker 4: bit of I will say brain farts, but kind of
Speaker 4: some brain farts for Miguel Rojas in there. Understandably, it's
Speaker 4: a long season and you know he's got a lot
Speaker 4: on his plate right now, a lot, you know, weighing
Speaker 4: on his mind.
Speaker 5: But not to say there's excuses you make for this team.
Speaker 4: But yeah, right now, the guys are tired, the airs
Speaker 4: are piling up, and this break is needed. The offense
Speaker 4: down in the month of July seven hundred ops as
Speaker 4: a team right now, that's twenty.
Speaker 5: First in baseball. Not good.
Speaker 4: The slug is now only six homers in July, and
Speaker 4: we know that if you want the dub, you got
Speaker 4: a slug.
Speaker 5: They're not slugging.
Speaker 4: That's third fewest in baseball type for tis third fewest,
Speaker 4: three sixty eighth slug is also the seventh worst. And yeah,
Speaker 4: this is a team that's just plainly in need of
Speaker 4: a break, in need of a mental research cer reset.
Speaker 4: Not everybody, surely, not everybody's getting a break. We know
Speaker 4: the Dodgers are well represented in the All Star game.
Speaker 4: Hopefully in the next day or two we hear Justin
Speaker 4: Rableski added to that roster. But this is a team
Speaker 4: that has been grinding. They have been grinding really since
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. You look at we got back to
Speaker 4: back World Series runs. You got opening the season in Korea,
Speaker 4: opening the season in Japan, you mixing the WBC in there.
Speaker 5: These boys need a break and these four days are
Speaker 5: coming at a great, great time. One more series though, yeah.
Speaker 2: One more series. And Katie, what's your opinion of the offense.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is a difficult time and we can
Speaker 2: talk about this more too. I'm interested in your opinion
Speaker 2: the two hole. We had the conversation last night with
Speaker 2: you know, Tommy Edmund in the two hole and kind
Speaker 2: of just not a ton of production second base rather, no,
Speaker 2: a two hole. We're talking about the two time all over.
Speaker 2: This is my third show of the day. I apologize.
Speaker 2: So what are you seeing with the offense up and
Speaker 2: down the lineup? Is it just a need for a
Speaker 2: break or is it something more nefarious than that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Quint, it just per usual.
Speaker 3: I'm team relaxed. Let's calm down.
Speaker 1: But again, we're here in early July, wrapping up the
Speaker 1: first half. This team has essentially cruised all so far
Speaker 1: this season, and.
Speaker 3: Guys are tired. Guys need a break.
Speaker 1: I think it is more peculiar than anything that with
Speaker 1: all of these accomplished hitters, the Dodgers have had trouble
Speaker 1: finding production no matter who they put in the two
Speaker 1: hole I like what we saw from Tommy Edmund there
Speaker 1: because you know he's mostly hit left.
Speaker 3: He's better though he has a switch hitter. He's been more.
Speaker 1: Neutral since coming off the IL. I don't know how
Speaker 1: long that's going to last. Certainly I hope it does
Speaker 1: last a while. But is Tommy Edmund you're certified like
Speaker 1: profile two hole hitter. I don't think so. But until
Speaker 1: Kyle Tentker figures it out, I don't think you can
Speaker 1: take Mooki out of the queen up spot and Andy
Speaker 1: pat Has does find there. I'm still under the belief
Speaker 1: that Andy Poz is best suited later down in the lineup,
Speaker 1: you know, fifth or lower. But given the options the
Speaker 1: Dodgers have right now, he's the best option for the
Speaker 1: two hole. Hopefully the second half brings better results for
Speaker 1: Kyle Tecker, because that could really fortify the lineup. But hey,
Speaker 1: they've been doing just fine the way that they are.
Speaker 1: If anything, again, not a huge issue because their overall
Speaker 1: production throughout the season has been some of the top
Speaker 1: in the league. It's just something a monitor went into
Speaker 1: the second half. We're gonna nitpick this team because they're
Speaker 1: so good. We have nothing else to talk about, So
Speaker 1: let's dissect the two hole. Can they get better in
Speaker 1: the second half production in that spot?
Speaker 5: And you got you.
Speaker 4: Got a massive lead, you know, in this division, like
Speaker 4: you could you could take the the you know, foot
Speaker 4: off the gas a little bit.
Speaker 5: Alna.
Speaker 4: Now I've also not complained, but I've been cautious about,
Speaker 4: you know, flipping that switch or when do you apply
Speaker 4: the pressure again to the paddle. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 4: mixing up my analogies here, but I loved this from
Speaker 4: mister Classic in the chat. It's fans, players, coaches, media.
Speaker 5: Everybody needs a little bit of a break.
Speaker 4: Of course, not you guys have got Alana doing every
Speaker 4: show in the world, or at least every show on
Speaker 4: the Found network.
Speaker 5: Today.
Speaker 4: Both of you guys are going to be at the
Speaker 4: All Star Game working your asses off, but do something fun.
Speaker 4: Take time off. Even the media too. That's not what
Speaker 4: we're here for. We're here for the grind, baby. But yeah,
Speaker 4: this team go fishing.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm not going to worry about flipping
Speaker 2: a switch on July ninth. I need you to flip
Speaker 2: a switch, you know, come October, whatever it is. When
Speaker 2: you host the first round of the DS, you know,
Speaker 2: hopefully it's not too much time off. It's always the
Speaker 2: rest or rest conversation. We have that every single year.
Speaker 2: Do you want to just go into it? Do you
Speaker 2: want to have a couple of days off. I'm not
Speaker 2: worried about this team at all right now. Every single
Speaker 2: one of those players needs a break because by the
Speaker 2: end of the season, everybody is playing hurt. There's a
Speaker 2: difference between being injured and being hurt. By the end
Speaker 2: of it, everybody will have some ailments. Make the mistake
Speaker 2: about it. So anytime you can get some rest, good
Speaker 2: on them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One thing, So I had my complaints about Alex call
Speaker 4: last night, and I'll call it a challenge gate, Katie.
Speaker 5: What was the pulse there?
Speaker 4: The pulse in the press box there and the Vin
Speaker 4: Scully press box, press booth. How how is media because
Speaker 4: they've kind of you know, passed over it when he
Speaker 4: was finally asked about it in the postgame scrum or availability.
Speaker 5: I think you got to take the keys away from
Speaker 5: Alex Call a little bit with when it comes to challenging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's been one of the Dodgers best
Speaker 1: when he's when he's playing in that.
Speaker 3: I don't love.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go full e K on this,
Speaker 1: but I don't love the challenge in the first inning.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't love back to back pitches because that ended.
Speaker 3: Up being a tight ball game.
Speaker 1: You're already up three nothing in the first, but it
Speaker 1: was a three to three game real quick after that,
Speaker 1: and you lose all of your challenges remaining.
Speaker 3: That changes the ballgame.
Speaker 1: And I think in a perfect role, the Dodgers were
Speaker 1: hoping for it not to be that close of a ballgame.
Speaker 1: But for me, I was a little bit surprised. Maybe
Speaker 1: Dave was just happy to take the series and get
Speaker 1: the heck out of there by kind of the nonchalant
Speaker 1: reaction to his credit. Though again, Alex Call is one
Speaker 1: of the better challengers in the Dodgers dugout, but the
Speaker 1: press socks upstairs I hadn't double take. I was like
Speaker 1: did I what's taking so long for the first challenge?
Speaker 1: I was like, did I miss a pitch? And Bobby
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, this is the second challenge and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, we did not, No, no, he
Speaker 1: did not. Also that ends well though it was your
Speaker 1: your not your patented Alex call it bat But we
Speaker 1: can move past it.
Speaker 3: Just maybe not again.
Speaker 2: Some people just need to take Sometimes you have to
Speaker 2: take the keys away.
Speaker 5: Okay. I think it's a good point to bring up,
Speaker 5: he's not he's.
Speaker 3: In time out. We said that yesterday.
Speaker 2: We said that yesterday, corner we challenge, challenge corner time
Speaker 2: out situation for a couple games. You are no longer
Speaker 2: allowed to challenge until the second Tuesday after the All
Speaker 2: Star break. We'll just make that.
Speaker 4: But it is a good point, ye to note that
Speaker 4: he has not He's not playing a lot right now,
Speaker 4: so it's harder to get that as much.
Speaker 2: As he's seen. Listen, Linda, Linda.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's okay.
Speaker 2: We went our entire lives without having challenges. Oh look,
Speaker 2: it's deep. We went our entire lives in baseball. So like,
Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want that excuse that. Oh
Speaker 2: he doesn't get to play a lot. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Not in the first inning.
Speaker 3: If anything, back pitches is crazy, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: If anything, I'm not going that bold and doubling up
Speaker 4: on the challenges.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a.
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Speaker 2: A couple of things for fans to watch this weekend.
Speaker 2: Besides the final three games of the first half, the
Speaker 2: MLB Draft that starts on Saturday. The Futures Game is
Speaker 2: on Sunday. The Futures Game is the minor league All
Speaker 2: Star Game. The Dodgers have two representatives top prospects, posts
Speaker 2: Away Depaula and Mike Sarota, a couple of guys whose
Speaker 2: names were going to start hearing a lot more after
Speaker 2: the All Star break as trade deadline rumors really start
Speaker 2: to ramp up, and Clint, I will defer to you
Speaker 2: on this because you're much more well versed and Katie
Speaker 2: is as well, but much more well versed in the
Speaker 2: whole farm system, the pipeline, if you will, do you
Speaker 2: think we see those guys sooner rather than later?
Speaker 4: You can see it again. Like I said, they go
Speaker 4: to see the names a whole lot. Mike Sioda is.
Speaker 4: I mean, they're both pretty close. Mike so as somebody who,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, feels closer than de Paula right now.
Speaker 4: DePaul is still pretty young, but the bat is playing
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 6: He is.
Speaker 5: All of the prospects. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: They are on tears right now, I think mostly at
Speaker 4: Double A Tulsa.
Speaker 5: So it's the perfect time for them to all get hot.
Speaker 4: I am a Depaula fan, but I'm kind of a
Speaker 4: Mike Sarota truther. The guy's a guy the Dodgers acquired
Speaker 4: for Gavin lux a year ago.
Speaker 5: Great under the radar trade.
Speaker 4: The type of trades this Dodgers team, this front office
Speaker 4: loves to make, trading away guys that maybe don't have
Speaker 4: a path to playing time, anymore Gavin Lucks, Matt Baty
Speaker 4: or playing time at all, Michael Bush and getting some
Speaker 4: sort of talent down in the minor league level. So
Speaker 4: definitely everybody's gonna want to watch the light Tower power
Speaker 4: that hosts way to Paula brings in that Futures games.
Speaker 4: But Mike Sarota, that kid looks like he can be
Speaker 4: a complete ballplayer, and I know people are gonna be
Speaker 4: kind of like, what's James Tibbs in this this futures game,
Speaker 4: Mike Sirota, I think the the up arrow is a
Speaker 4: little bit higher right now for the long term.
Speaker 5: TIBs got some holes in the swing there. But it's fun.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a like massive futures game fan,
Speaker 4: but I want to see these dudes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be flying, So I don't think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be able to watch it at that point, but it
Speaker 2: is it is fun to see these guys. I'm really
Speaker 2: more the opportunity just for them. It's timeless. It's you know,
Speaker 2: a reward for them for the season that they have
Speaker 2: had so far, and it is important for people to
Speaker 2: see what might be coming up the pipeline, or to
Speaker 2: be honest, like what might serve as a trade piece too, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, they might be traded to you might.
Speaker 2: It's it's a huge showcase obviously, not only for what
Speaker 2: these guys do to try to make their way to
Speaker 2: the big leagues, but it's also a showcase for other
Speaker 2: teams to see what they can what they can bring
Speaker 2: to the table if in fact they're looking for those
Speaker 2: types of you know, players in their organization.
Speaker 4: And it is it is a time. So Katie and
Speaker 4: I were talking earlier. We also talked about this a
Speaker 4: good amount last week. You know, this is this is
Speaker 4: a critical point for this organization, a critical next probably
Speaker 4: three weeks to a month for the front office and
Speaker 4: really the next what three to five years for this organization.
Speaker 5: You have the Draft on Saturday.
Speaker 4: And the draft it's never exciting, and it's even less
Speaker 4: exciting when you're the Dodgers because their first pick isn't
Speaker 4: until number forty. Overall, you signed a bunch of high
Speaker 4: quality qualifying offer dudes Kyle Tucker and Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 5: You don't get a lot of high picks. Still, they
Speaker 5: make the most out of their picks.
Speaker 4: I don't know, should I just kind of run through
Speaker 4: some of the notes here or Katie, you want to
Speaker 4: kind of inform people of where.
Speaker 5: The Dodgers are at heading into this draft. I think
Speaker 5: it makes sense for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you'll just's freak it down. So allegedly it's
Speaker 3: an off day. I have zero brain cells today.
Speaker 1: So let's The draft is important for the Dodgers for
Speaker 1: two reasons. One, it's a chance to bulk up your
Speaker 1: farm system, of course, and two because when you look
Speaker 1: around the league, most execs don't start focusing on the
Speaker 1: trade deadline until after the draft. Since they moved it
Speaker 1: from June to the All Star Week, it's kind of
Speaker 1: made the trade deadline conversation from the second half like
Speaker 1: right out out of the Also, break to the deadline
Speaker 1: is really when we start to see this. So the
Speaker 1: Dodgers right now are operating. Okay, we have a really
Speaker 1: small number of picks for the draft. Let's get through
Speaker 1: that and go to the deadline. So what can we
Speaker 1: expect on Saturday? They again, like Clint said, first pick
Speaker 1: is not until number forty. They don't have a first
Speaker 1: round pick this year thanks to ruining baseball all right,
Speaker 1: so they actually received a ten ten pick penalty on
Speaker 1: their first picks for exceeding the second threshold of the
Speaker 1: competitive balance tax, and as Clint mentioned, they forfeited their second, third, fifth,
Speaker 1: and sixth round selections when they assigned Kyle Tucker and
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, both free agents who had had received qualifying offers.
Speaker 1: So over the first ten rounds, the Dodgers have one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 1: six picks, forty one, thirty seven, two twenty six, two
Speaker 1: fifty six, two eighty six, and three sixteen. I promise
Speaker 1: you I will only know the fortieth pick. In terms
Speaker 1: of just the draft.
Speaker 3: In general, it's a lot of names, It's a lot
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers really need to capitalize on the draft
Speaker 1: because we talk a lot with Andrew Friedman, and he
Speaker 1: says this very often about needing to make sure that
Speaker 1: the Dodgers dynastic run isn't just this period, that it
Speaker 1: extends to the future core.
Speaker 3: And how do you do that.
Speaker 1: You sign players and you develop them within your system.
Speaker 3: You cannot you can go out and buy players.
Speaker 1: We've seen the Dodgers do this obviously, But the reason
Speaker 1: that they are able to stay so consistently dominant is
Speaker 1: because of their homegrown talent, drafting and developing Andrew Gridman
Speaker 1: comes from the Tampa Bay Rays.
Speaker 3: They are great at this.
Speaker 1: So how do you do that You draft well and
Speaker 1: you develop well. For the Dodgers if you're already getting
Speaker 1: limited amounts of opportunity to draft, that means you really
Speaker 1: need to capitalize.
Speaker 3: On your player development system. You see where they are
Speaker 3: right now with their prospects. We talked about this earlier
Speaker 3: in the show or show earlier.
Speaker 1: I wonder is it possible for the Dodgers to maybe
Speaker 1: we allocate some resources after the draft and bulk up
Speaker 1: their farm system via some trades.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this this leads back to what we were
Speaker 4: talking about anyways, before we get that far.
Speaker 5: Alana, this field now, I just you.
Speaker 2: Need I think we do we need to nail this?
Speaker 2: Do we need to nail this draft? If you will.
Speaker 2: I feel like, sometimes, you know, we get so caught
Speaker 2: up in the fact that this team is so damn
Speaker 2: good every single year, and we take for granted how
Speaker 2: good our farm system is and how deep this farm
Speaker 2: system is, you know. But in order for it to
Speaker 2: be that way, they have to do really well in
Speaker 2: the draft. And it's not necessarily as exposed because the
Speaker 2: Dodgers are good every single year, but sometimes a draft
Speaker 2: will make or break a team for many years to come.
Speaker 2: So in your opinion, Clint, is this one of those
Speaker 2: years that is more important perhaps than recent years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you consider the last couple of years,
Speaker 4: the fact that you lost first round picks, signing Show Hey,
Speaker 4: signing Kyle Tucker.
Speaker 5: For this year, signing Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 4: You know, like Katie said, they don't pick until the
Speaker 4: fortieth and you only have what is it, six picks
Speaker 4: in the first ten rounds.
Speaker 5: Now, they have been very good at it in the past.
Speaker 4: Last year developed or sorry, they signed Zach Rout and
Speaker 4: Charles Davelon. Both of these guys are in the top
Speaker 4: thirty already in the organization. The year before that, Kellen Lindsay,
Speaker 4: Chase Harlan, guys that are a couple of infield dudes
Speaker 4: that they're still very young, they're still far away, but
Speaker 4: they are in the top thirty in most of the
Speaker 4: you know, prospects like top thirty organizational Prospects list where
Speaker 4: you're looking at Baseball America, whether you're looking at MLB pipeline,
Speaker 4: these are guys that could help the club on the field,
Speaker 4: could help the club in trades in some way, shape
Speaker 4: or form. But you know, this felt to me like
Speaker 4: a good opportunity though, to revisit what we talked about
Speaker 4: last week, because there have been some doubters about whether
Speaker 4: or not the Dodgers will actually be interested in what
Speaker 4: Katie reported a week ago or a wee can change
Speaker 4: go about ten days ago that the Dodgers' primary focus
Speaker 4: is going to be improving the depth at the farm level. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is at the trade deadline, by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 4: is it sexy to look to add, you know, minor
Speaker 4: leaguers instead of Terrek Schooble. Absolutely not, because you want
Speaker 4: to maximize your ability to compete and win this year.
Speaker 4: Dodgers trading some minor league dudes to replenish different areas
Speaker 4: of the minor league system, of the farm system does
Speaker 4: not necessarily preclude them from going out and pursuing Arrek Schooble.
Speaker 5: They are not one or the other. They have so
Speaker 5: much talent to be able to do this.
Speaker 4: But Katie, I want to make sure people we might
Speaker 4: have glossed over this a little bit the last time
Speaker 4: we were talking about this. The primary focus isn't on
Speaker 4: the major league roster. According to people you have talked
Speaker 4: to with the organization. Of course, granted the condition of anonymity,
Speaker 4: they are.
Speaker 5: Ready to trade some of these top guys that we know.
Speaker 4: Maybe not your Root and Davelons, Lindsay's and Harlan's, and
Speaker 4: maybe not your Depaula's, but maybe Mike Sirota. This futures
Speaker 4: game is a spotlight for him to get something.
Speaker 2: Maybe he is he auditioning kid, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate over certain guys, but I
Speaker 1: think it's definitely fair to look at the Dodgers system
Speaker 1: and look at this group of outfielders that we've talked
Speaker 1: about all season long about.
Speaker 3: Where the heck are they going to play?
Speaker 1: Well? This is an opportunity to go out and again
Speaker 1: it's not sexy, but like take from an area of
Speaker 1: abundance and address an area of need. The Dodgers have
Speaker 1: one of the best farm systems in baseball because of
Speaker 1: their outfield prospects.
Speaker 3: If you take away some of those.
Speaker 1: They're pretty thin in catching depth. They're relatively thin in
Speaker 1: the infield, and you can always use more starting pitching,
Speaker 1: especially in the upper tiers of their minor league system.
Speaker 3: There aren't a lot of guys healthy right now.
Speaker 1: So can the Dodgers move one of their top outfield prospects. Again,
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that to Depaula they really
Speaker 1: like I can. They kind of compare him to the
Speaker 1: best hit tool since the guy named Corey Seeger.
Speaker 3: Perhaps you've heard of him, so Hi pri is there.
Speaker 1: But can you move some of these guys in the
Speaker 1: lower first tier or upper second tier to replenish your
Speaker 1: farm system?
Speaker 3: You absolutely can.
Speaker 1: Again, is it going to be like the sexiest move
Speaker 1: or breaking, you know, blockbuster trade? No, but these trades
Speaker 1: are important. You look at the Hunter Producia trade last year.
Speaker 1: Got that catching depth that you needed from from Ben
Speaker 1: Rochelle in the in the playoffs, you needed that Dalton rushing.
Speaker 3: Maybe wasn't ready for that.
Speaker 1: So those trades matter just as much when you're looking
Speaker 1: to build a contending team and take it to.
Speaker 3: The next level.
Speaker 1: This doesn't preclude them from doing other things, right. I
Speaker 1: don't see them as all in for Terek school right now.
Speaker 3: But God forbid any of those four starters, whether it's
Speaker 3: Stellar Glass now.
Speaker 1: And rehab or yam a Motor a Tani, anyone goes
Speaker 1: down that's going to switch their thinking immediately. This is
Speaker 1: what cracks me up about the deadline, and I know
Speaker 1: I contribute to it as a media member. It's July ninth,
Speaker 1: the deadline is August third. You look across the board
Speaker 1: to every team, essentially not the Dodgers, the entire American League.
Speaker 1: Everyone's kind of right in the middle. So we don't
Speaker 1: even know who the buyers and sellers are. We don't
Speaker 1: even know if the Tigers are going to trade Schooble.
Speaker 1: They're a week away from getting hot and being right
Speaker 1: back in that very average ale central so we can
Speaker 1: speculate this and about who the Schooble contenders are, who
Speaker 1: the sellers, who the buyers are. We don't really know
Speaker 1: for sure, and we probably won't know until that last
Speaker 1: week before the August or deadline. The Dodgers are smart
Speaker 1: for looking at their minor league system and the abundance
Speaker 1: of outfoild prospects that they have and saying, hey, we
Speaker 1: can actually drive the market on this one.
Speaker 3: Let's see what could be out there. Again, it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean it's.
Speaker 1: The only thing they're going to do, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: propood them from doing anything else.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Obviously we have it on the screen there, just looking
Speaker 4: at the muddy al wild card picture. That's definitely going
Speaker 4: to be a driving force in what either makes.
Speaker 5: Or breaks a Terrek Schooble deal.
Speaker 4: But Scooble aside, again, I think the Dodgers will be
Speaker 4: involved in the way that Dodgers are involved in anybody
Speaker 4: and everybody.
Speaker 5: We talked about it last week.
Speaker 4: Obviously it comes down to the health of the guys
Speaker 4: they have on whether or not they're going to heavily
Speaker 4: pursue him. But right now with where this like going
Speaker 4: back to what I started with this about this being
Speaker 4: such an important month, kind of a moving month for
Speaker 4: the organization. It's not just this year, it is three
Speaker 4: years from now, it is five years from now.
Speaker 5: Because the only reason they.
Speaker 4: Have built the success thirteen were going to be winning
Speaker 4: thirteen division crowns over the last fourteen years.
Speaker 5: I think the numbers are.
Speaker 4: They have a lot of success because they have built
Speaker 4: from within the You know, Andrew Friedman and company were
Speaker 4: handed a pretty stocked organization with the aforementioned Corey Seeger
Speaker 4: Cody Bellinger in there. You know, one of their first
Speaker 4: draft picks was Walker Buehler still had Kershaw around and
Speaker 4: you're able to build from within while supplementing with money
Speaker 4: around and all that kind of stuff, and you built
Speaker 4: a quality ball club that could could tend for World
Speaker 4: Series titles. The last couple of year, they have built
Speaker 4: quality ball clubs using a lot of money.
Speaker 5: To win World Series titles.
Speaker 4: And like Alta always tells you, you don't necessarily guarantee
Speaker 4: yourself winning by spending a lot of money. But when
Speaker 4: the Dodgers spent a lot of money, they one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: So far they are two for two in winning. But
Speaker 4: the Dodgers are good now. They need to be good
Speaker 4: for five years from now. We know the roster is aging.
Speaker 4: Max Muntzy only has a couple more years at most
Speaker 4: of being the everyday third baseman. You don't know what
Speaker 4: the future is going to look like for Freddie Freeman
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff, and the CBA situation
Speaker 4: can know like that going to effect how the Dodgers
Speaker 4: can operate moving forward. So right now, you try to
Speaker 4: stock this organization. You try to have as much talent,
Speaker 4: using the talent you have that you don't necessarily.
Speaker 5: Need at the big league level. Immediately, you use.
Speaker 4: That talent to fill out where you are thin catcher
Speaker 4: in the infield. Pitching is thinner than it has been
Speaker 4: in a long time for this organization. So it's not
Speaker 4: sexy at all, but it is what they have done.
Speaker 4: And over the last fifteen years of running this team,
Speaker 4: they have always found a way to do the little
Speaker 4: things to build the organization where we don't see them
Speaker 4: become I don't know, Yankees had some lean years.
Speaker 5: The Angels have had to lean twenty years.
Speaker 4: You know, It's like the Dodgers will never do that
Speaker 4: because of how much they are always thinking ahead.
Speaker 5: And this is a think ahead deadline and.
Speaker 1: Month, Katie, Yeah, And I think a good way to
Speaker 1: wrap this up, Quent and I all fantastic points is
Speaker 1: when you are the Dodgers and you want to make
Speaker 1: sure this dynasty does not flame out, because that is
Speaker 1: Andrew Freeman and Brandon Goms's biggest biggest concern when they're
Speaker 1: looking at building their roster for the future is making
Speaker 1: sure that they can continue to bring winning baseball to
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium. It's replenishing your farm system. And we talked
Speaker 1: about you know.
Speaker 3: They forfeited a lot of picks in the draft.
Speaker 1: They also have you know, plenty of penalties on the
Speaker 1: International Bonus School. They've taken multiple hits for their tash
Speaker 1: light to penalties sacrifice most of their twenty twenty four
Speaker 1: class when they signed Roki Sasaki. So if you are
Speaker 1: looking to augment your farm system and bulk up areas
Speaker 1: that you're thin at, really the most efficient and kind
Speaker 1: of only way they can do that right now. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say only, but the most likely way they can
Speaker 1: do this right now is through the trade market. So
Speaker 1: that's why you're hearing them kind of again, It's not
Speaker 1: like this is the only thing they're going to do,
Speaker 1: but this is a big focus and a big priority
Speaker 1: for them because they know and they are so good
Speaker 1: at this that you have to replenish your farm system,
Speaker 1: you have to have homegrown, developed players. They're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to reboot their.
Speaker 3: Entire catching system. They're going to have to go trade
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: They have an abundance of outfielders, all very talented, all
Speaker 1: with different ceiling levels that are all very high. You
Speaker 1: can't play nine outfielders in three spots. You take a risk, right,
Speaker 1: You take a risk and dealing one of these guys
Speaker 1: away like you did with Michael Bush, like you did
Speaker 1: with Gavin Luck, so he wasn't a prospect at the
Speaker 1: time to address an area of need. The Dodgers are
Speaker 1: suited well to do this, and they could take advantage
Speaker 1: of the market.
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised it.
Speaker 1: All if this is the direction that they go, even
Speaker 1: depending on what their major league roster looks like.
Speaker 3: Comme August third. One of the few things.
Speaker 4: I was going to say an important factor because ri Is,
Speaker 4: I want to hear from you on this because you
Speaker 4: were there at the start of this run of success,
Speaker 4: even before Andrew Friedman and company took over, and you
Speaker 4: saw how good the team or the state the team
Speaker 4: was in. Then Friedman takes over his front office starts
Speaker 4: doing what they do, which is very good, and you
Speaker 4: got to live up to including getting a ring in
Speaker 4: twenty You got to live through them spending money but
Speaker 4: also building this farm system to make a sustainable model
Speaker 4: that other organizations are still trying.
Speaker 5: To emulate, and they can't. They can look at the
Speaker 5: fucking Mets. They can't.
Speaker 2: That's the thing too, I mean, that's the one thing
Speaker 2: that I've noticed. When I started covering this team in
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, the same conversation was happening over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. When you talk to executives from other organizations,
Speaker 2: when you talk to the media that covered different organizations,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers have a rare ability to be able to
Speaker 2: churn out an unbelievably productive and competitive ball club every
Speaker 2: single season, but it doesn't deplete their farm system. And
Speaker 2: there are very few teams in our league that can
Speaker 2: win while consistently developing, and I think the Dodgers are
Speaker 2: so good at that. I mean, Andrew Freeman is one
Speaker 2: of the best in my opinion, about getting the big
Speaker 2: piece that you need at the trade deadline or getting
Speaker 2: the supplemental complimentary pieces at the deadline or in the
Speaker 2: off season, and he doesn't give away the Dodgers' logo.
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when in a different sport entirely,
Speaker 2: but I remember when Josh McDaniel was in Denver as
Speaker 2: the head coach and you basically traded everything, including the
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos low go for Tim Tebow and we're like,
Speaker 2: what are we doing? But I feel like the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are one of those teams that can compete every single
Speaker 2: year at the highest level with still not depleting a
Speaker 2: farm system that is going to be their future. And
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of teams that can do that.
Speaker 2: A lot of teams try to emulate it. Some of
Speaker 2: it is the capital issue, some of it is just
Speaker 2: not the brain power. I mean, you're saying Andrew Friedman,
Speaker 2: he's going to do Andrew Friedman things. And he took
Speaker 2: a small market mentality for a Tampa Bay Race team
Speaker 2: that for whatever reason is competitive. Every single year. They're
Speaker 2: first in the division in the Al East, and that
Speaker 2: is a division that had, you know, some big name
Speaker 2: and big market money teams, and they win every single year. Now,
Speaker 2: the knock on them is that they don't get deep
Speaker 2: into the postseason. They did obviously in twenty twenty, and
Speaker 2: thank god for Kevin Cash taking Blake Snell out of
Speaker 2: the game, because I don't know that the Dodgers would
Speaker 2: have won that series. But the point is the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are really good at doing both things well and it's
Speaker 2: an enviable position to be in. And I have seen
Speaker 2: that SIXSS. I've never covered a bad Dodgers team, and
Speaker 2: that I feel very grateful for that. I've never covered
Speaker 2: I started in twenty fourteen that Colletti was still the
Speaker 2: you know, the general manager at the time. Obviously Stan
Speaker 2: Casten was there, and then in two thousand and six
Speaker 2: seen this whole new regime came in and Ned stayed
Speaker 2: on for a couple of years and then obviously went
Speaker 2: to the broadcast side. But he's a great baseball mind,
Speaker 2: and a lot of this is the Ned Kaletti architecture,
Speaker 2: and a lot of this obviously is the Andrew Friedman architecture.
Speaker 2: And it's just a really fortunate position to be in
Speaker 2: that the Dodgers can do both at such a high level.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and it's important to note and kind of my
Speaker 4: final thoughts on this the last two years that we
Speaker 4: have had as Dodgers fans, that's never the norm. That's
Speaker 4: never was the plan to be the norm spending all
Speaker 4: of this money. What we saw before was the plan.
Speaker 4: You build around your farm system, you supplement a few
Speaker 4: guys in there. When they traded for Mooki, that was
Speaker 4: kind of it was kind of supposed to be the plan,
Speaker 4: but then it became painfully apparent, Oh shit, we don't
Speaker 4: have enough starting pitching. So they went and signed everybody up.
Speaker 5: In the world, and well not really everybody.
Speaker 4: But getting Yamamoto trading for Glass Now it opened up
Speaker 4: ushered in this new era of spending money.
Speaker 5: But that is never the goal.
Speaker 4: And Andrew Friedman has been telling us this for at
Speaker 4: least the last five years, that you know, we can't.
Speaker 4: You don't react, you you you work within your means,
Speaker 4: you don't really chase the market.
Speaker 2: Well, he's not an emotional guy. He doesn't make decisions
Speaker 2: based on emotion. And I think there's some owners, there's
Speaker 2: some front office people that that do it based on emotion.
Speaker 2: We just had this conversation on foul Territory about whether
Speaker 2: or not Don Mattingley is going to have the interim
Speaker 2: tag removed and become the Philadelphia Phillies manager next season.
Speaker 2: And Dave Dombrowski's that way. He's not an emotional guy.
Speaker 2: So if he sees that Alex Correr or somebody else
Speaker 2: is going to be better, it's not going to matter
Speaker 2: how far Don Mattingley takes this Phillies team. So, and
Speaker 2: I think that's how you have to be. I think
Speaker 2: you need to be really steady.
Speaker 4: Eddy.
Speaker 2: You can't follow the trends because then you're going to
Speaker 2: get yourself into trouble. It's like whatever the hot new
Speaker 2: shiny toy is that can't be what you're going after
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 5: I would be bad at it. I think it would
Speaker 5: be bad as it.
Speaker 3: Very decision not rooted on emotion.
Speaker 5: Oh are we we? You expect us to be not normal.
Speaker 3: Rational about something?
Speaker 5: No way, hell no.
Speaker 4: But hopefully you guys enjoyed the conversation. I think this
Speaker 4: is useful for people.
Speaker 5: Who maybe don't kind of understand where this organization is
Speaker 5: at right now.
Speaker 4: And you know, even last year trading away Dustin May,
Speaker 4: people who have scratched their head from that, it brought
Speaker 4: them a couple of very important you know, draft pieces
Speaker 4: or prospect pieces that they could move or you know.
Speaker 2: Not and not for nothing, not for nothing. It was
Speaker 2: good for Dustin May too. I mean he was in
Speaker 2: a free agent year, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: he didn't do well when he was traded over to
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox. But now he's kind of found
Speaker 2: a way and found a new a new gear, if
Speaker 2: you will, with the Saint Louis Cardinals. So we do
Speaker 2: have a four ninety nine super check, Clint, I want
Speaker 2: to bring that up before I went to last Li's
Speaker 2: ear loves Baseball four ninety nine flip and lour for
Speaker 2: prospects at the is peek Friedman in white bathrobe. That's
Speaker 2: a whole other conversation. What's River Ryan's injury status? Katie
Speaker 2: needs to pitch down the stretch First.
Speaker 3: Of all, great call on Lawer.
Speaker 1: I was going to bring this up to wrap up
Speaker 1: the segment. This seems like exactly like the kind of
Speaker 1: trade they could do. Actually, Ken Rosenthal wrote about this
Speaker 1: in The Athletic a couple of days ago, where he's saying,
Speaker 1: you know, the Dodgers flip dust in May. Starting pitching
Speaker 1: is always the most coveted thing at the deadline because
Speaker 1: it is so rare, and the Dodgers once again have
Speaker 1: it's thinner than than years prior, but they have enough
Speaker 1: starting pitching where they can go out and trade lower
Speaker 1: will be a free agent at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Teams love to take a two month flyer on a
Speaker 1: durable starter, especially those fringe contenders, and there are plenty
Speaker 1: of fringe contenders this year based on the standings, so
Speaker 1: I could totally see Andrew Freeman doing that again with
Speaker 1: Eric Lawer, and he's been very underrated for this Dodgers
Speaker 1: squad in the first half.
Speaker 3: We've talked about this.
Speaker 1: They don't have a six man rotation that they desperately
Speaker 1: need without him, and.
Speaker 3: He's been serviceable.
Speaker 1: Feel like it's a quality start every single time.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's fourth.
Speaker 1: Straight earlier in the week, So you flip Eric Lower
Speaker 1: a guy that's done his job but probably doesn't have
Speaker 1: a role in the postseason. I don't see him fitting
Speaker 1: into that bullpen. Get some prospects back. Everybody's happy. River
Speaker 1: Ryan haven't heard much, which is disappointing since he went
Speaker 1: down with that hamstring.
Speaker 3: He is still able to throw.
Speaker 1: I think he's still in Arizona, but I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about that exactly. So he's not shut down completely. He
Speaker 1: was just isn't throwing. He's on flat ground, so there
Speaker 1: is going to be some sort of a ramp up.
Speaker 1: But this is someone that the Dodger is really I
Speaker 1: think he was getting close to being into that major
Speaker 1: league rotation than can be him a spot start and
Speaker 1: someone that the Dodgers front office looks as a real
Speaker 1: legitimate weapon in the bullpen come October if he can
Speaker 1: stay healthy. And that's been the unfortunate deal with River
Speaker 1: Ryan is there has just been a difficulty to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: This is already his second hamstring problem of the season
Speaker 1: as he comes back from Tommy John.
Speaker 3: So that's certainly someone that they're.
Speaker 1: Going to be watching, but they can't count on just
Speaker 1: yet until he heals. Imagine though, a postseason bullpen that
Speaker 1: has Roki Sasaki, the good Rokie, Emma Shean, Justinus and
Speaker 1: River Ryan and you get Edwin Diaz back. He'll start
Speaker 1: to rehabssignment soon. You're feeling really good about it. It's
Speaker 1: another reason why Eric Flower seems to be a possible
Speaker 1: trade candidate.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a real busy deadline internally for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5: People love to say it.
Speaker 4: And also with River Ryan and somebody get that boy
Speaker 4: some water maybe like aa banana? Yeah, like banana. No cramp, Yeah,
Speaker 4: no cramp with banana. Good conversation here, guys. Alana's going
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Speaker 2: All right, Baseball thought for the road. This is a
Speaker 2: great stat. I didn't even know this until I looked
Speaker 2: at our rundown. Thanks Clint. Mooki's next game played will
Speaker 2: be his seven hundred and ninety fifth in a Dodger uniform,
Speaker 2: one more than he played with the Red Sox. What
Speaker 2: is his legacy up to this point, Katie? He has
Speaker 2: six years left on this contract. Wow, that's amazing to
Speaker 2: think there was a moment in which we didn't know
Speaker 2: that Mooki bets we were ever going to see him
Speaker 2: in a Dodger's uniform because he came over and then
Speaker 2: Covid hit, and then they extended him, and here we are.
Speaker 3: He's a Dodger.
Speaker 1: He's a Dodger, And I think I grew up in
Speaker 1: college and like Mookie Bets was the face of Boston,
Speaker 1: but he's one of the faces of Los Angeles. And
Speaker 1: when you come out here and you win as many
Speaker 1: World Series as Mookie Bets has and he performed the
Speaker 1: way that he has, I don't we have the same
Speaker 1: conversation with Freddy. I couldn't have imagined Fredy Freeman being
Speaker 1: anything and Atlanta brave, and now I can't imagine being
Speaker 1: anything but a Dodger.
Speaker 3: Same with otani An Angel. No, he's a Dodger.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what happens when you win, right,
Speaker 1: when you win with a team, that's the team you represent.
Speaker 1: Mooki Bets has done so much for the Dodgers organization.
Speaker 1: They just toasted a very belated to a three hundredth
Speaker 1: career Homer him in.
Speaker 3: Show Hey Yesterday. I think that happened.
Speaker 1: All my days are the same guys. But yeah, Mookie Bets,
Speaker 1: he's a Dodger.
Speaker 3: He's a good one. End of story.
Speaker 4: And to me, this is in a lot of that
Speaker 4: we don't need to spend too much time on this,
Speaker 4: but really the Mooki trade is the like serious transition
Speaker 4: point to oh, okay, we mean business. Yes, they made
Speaker 4: the World Series in twenty seventeen with a mostly built
Speaker 4: from within neo squad. Twenty eighteen had no business being there,
Speaker 4: but they power of will brought them there. But in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty it was a very good baseball team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they we didn't get to see a lot of it
Speaker 4: over the course of sixty regular season games.
Speaker 5: But the Mooki trade kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's like you've seen that meme where that somebody like
Speaker 4: the graphic is somebody sitting in a chair playing a game,
Speaker 4: and then they leaned forward.
Speaker 5: That was the Dodgers leaning forward. We mean business.
Speaker 4: Now we just traded for Mooky Bets, Boston icon and
Speaker 4: the dude he has become the man, the father, the leader,
Speaker 4: the three time World Series champion with the Dodgers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is he is a Dodger that I mean.
Speaker 2: I'll look at it from the other perspective too. It
Speaker 2: was a name that you're like, wow, we got Mooky Bets.
Speaker 2: But from the other side of the equation, the Red
Speaker 2: Sox have not been the same since the Red Sox
Speaker 2: have absolutely been horrific by and large since they traded
Speaker 2: away Mooky Bets and I live here now in this area,
Speaker 2: and of course always talking about the Dodgers here, but
Speaker 2: they bring it up constantly, and you still see all
Speaker 2: kinds of Mooky jerseys at the games, and people are
Speaker 2: really really upset set that they would do that. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be the guy that traded away Mookie Bets,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that. And that was such a wild
Speaker 2: thing that the Red Sox did, and they have not
Speaker 2: recovered and they're reeling right now. So Mooki Bets is
Speaker 2: very much a Dodger, and he did say he'd liked
Speaker 2: playing here, but I think he just feels so much
Speaker 2: more at home in LA. He's so involved in all
Speaker 2: kinds of things there. I mean, he's very multi talented, multifaceted,
Speaker 2: doing a podcast, doing all kinds of things. You see
Speaker 2: him super involved in a lot of different business ventures
Speaker 2: and in the community. He's a four time World Series champion,
Speaker 2: perhaps six more years on this deal, perhaps a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. We can talk about that conversation at another date.
Speaker 2: But Mooki's La, right, LA is Mookie and good for him.
Speaker 2: That what a great stat love love the fact that
Speaker 2: he's going to obviously play the majority of his games
Speaker 2: as a Dodger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he I'm Bloom. That's Katie's friend. Heinm bloom to.
Speaker 3: A good star in Saint Louis. Yeah, all right, Let's
Speaker 3: let's see where it goes. Let's see how that deadline goes.
Speaker 4: Until they trade away like Nolan Gorman and what's the
Speaker 4: kid Win's name, Mason Winn and all that trade out way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's gonna just don't trade away fred
Speaker 2: Bird and you'll be fine.
Speaker 3: They can trade away fred Bird. Way cuter mascots out
Speaker 3: there there. And plus he doesn't wear pants. It kind
Speaker 3: of freaks me out.
Speaker 5: Listen, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 4: You gotta Winnie Pool, I'm not wearing pants? No, whoa
Speaker 4: waiting the poo that shit?
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