1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. That's what he said. That's 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: what he said, that's what he said. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Okay, there's a lot to unpack here, so let's set 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: this up. Dave Dombrowski end of season presser. It's an 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: hour plus, he asks. He gets asked one question about 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper. He basically said, this wasn't an elite year 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: for a superstar player. Freddie Freeman caught strays for no reason. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: But he's okay, he's in the World Series. He's just 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: as good as ever. Dave don Browski comes on our 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: show and says a lot was made about nothing, and 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: he thinks he's great, and there's absolutely no truth to 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: bs trade rumors that were floated out there barely even 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: floated out there, and it ran wild. Bryce actually replies 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: and said, I've given my all to Philly from the start. 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Now there's trade talk. I made every effort to avoid this. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: It's all I heard in DC with the Nationals. I 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: hated it. It makes me feel uncomfortable. He spoke to 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Matt Gelip, who put a story out in The Athletic. 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: Harper is hurt by the comments from Dombrowski in the 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: trade speculation. He also said all players get hurt. I 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: hurt my wrist this year and missed a month. Of course, 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: I don't have full year numbers. It's disappointed to hear 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: me being questioned about my contribution to the team. Just 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: really hurt by that notion because I love Philly so much. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: And he goes on to say, how you know he 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: didn't put a opt out in there because he even 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: though he was advised to do so, he wanted them 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: to know he's going to be there forever. You know, 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: remember last year there were thoughts that his camp wanted 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: an extension even though there's a ton of time left. 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Scott Boris also spoke I'm paraphrasing a little bit for 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: Scott's team. That's probably listening. But Scott mostly was okay 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: with Dombrowski's comments. He just wanted him to include the 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: fact that he was bothered by a rist issue this year. 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair for. 36 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: Dombrowski to say, Hey, he didn't have an elite year. 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: He also had a rist issue. That's a big deal. Okay, 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: where are we at here? AJ should Bryce be pissed 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: at the Phillies? We had Dombrawski on the other day 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: and he sounded super normal and chill, like I love Bryce, 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: and I just said that, you know, it was a 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: one twenty five ops year plus a year versus a 43 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: one eighty or whatever he usually puts up. 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: I don't know what we're pissed about here. Dobrowski never 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: said he was on the trade block, did he. I 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: think someone made that up. I don't know what we're 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: mad about. It wasn't Dombrowski that said it. Dobrowski came 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: on here, Bryce, come on here and we'll talk about it. 49 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 3: But I mean, he came on here and said there's 50 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: absolutely no way they're trading him. He loves Bryce, he 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: wants Bryce in Philly. I don't understand what we're mad 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: about here. I wish at one point, Mike, you know, Career, 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: the GM or President of Baseball officer, to come on 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: and said, yeah about me. The way Dombrowski talked about 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: Bryce Harper, it was pretty awesome to hear someone talk 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: about another player like that. So I don't know why 57 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: we're so angry. I mean, CROs you're in Philly, you're 58 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: a boots on the ground there. But man, I don't 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: understand what Bryce is so mad about It feels like 60 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: he got mad over something that was taken out of 61 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: context and not really if you listen to what Dombrowski said, 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: I don't kind of agree with why he's so mad. 63 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: I think he got a little bit of miss information. 64 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: I think he heard what Joel Sherman said. I think 65 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: it was on a podcast. He didn't say, oh, he's 66 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: like I see him getting traded here. He's just saying 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: that there's speculation that he could. 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't. 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: It was very very tame and Dombrowski obviously he came 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: on here and we didn't say anything about, hey, do 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: you think he's should be traded? Dombrowski brought it up himself, 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 4: and so I think it's I think Matt Gilb got 73 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: him at the right time, got him maybe some misinformation, 74 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: or maybe maybe Bryce was listening to the wrong things 75 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: or like going on speculation things. I think there is 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: nobody that could have come to Philadelphia and endeared themselves 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 4: more to Philly fans. I think when Dombrowski, I know, 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: when Dombrowski came on a lot of people in Philly 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: were like, Okay, that's nice. I'm glad he's not being traded. 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: Now it gets re sparked back up by Gelb talking 81 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: to him, and you know, I think now it's time 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: for Dave Dombrowski to finally bury the hatchet here and 83 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: just say, hey, you know what, here's what was going on. 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 4: There was never any trade speculation, that was never from me. 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: A lot of things have, like he said when he 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: came on, kind of taken the you know, a life 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: of its own. Comments that he said a short snippet 88 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: in an hour long conversation. 89 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: And my favorite part of it was, which. 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of people necessarily read, was 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: Boris said, you gotta let harpery meaning Ferrari Harpery. When 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: Boris uses those play on words type of things, you 93 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 4: gotta let him, you gotta let him eat. He said, 94 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 4: maybe get somebody behind him so the tea he doesn't 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: have the second least number of pitches in his own 96 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: scene of anybody in baseball. Like he's saying, hey, you 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: know what, if you didn't think he did well, maybe 98 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 4: get a number four hitter that's gonna hit behind Harper 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 4: to be able to protect him in the lineup, which 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: I thought was a cool statement by Boris. Selling another 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: one of his clients that probably is gonna get four 102 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 4: million dollars. 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they didn't get good production out of 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: the cleanup spot. You can look at the numbers, right 105 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: both ops or if you wait the numbers, it's even 106 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: worse for Philly. So okay, that's fine, that's fair. 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: Rights did come on he came on our show and 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: staid the trade rumors weren't true. I don't understand, like 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: he literally came on here and said they were not true. 110 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: He did. He he didn't have What else does he 111 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: have to say? 112 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: He came on here and he had Remember, he pulled 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: out a piece of paper at one point, was like 114 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: and started reading out all these things, like what else 115 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: does he He doesn't have to say anything. Plus, you 116 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: know what, Brice, you have ten to five. They can't 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: trade you, So just tell him I'm. 118 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Not going anywhere. And it shut. Nolan Arnado did it 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: if you have send trade. 120 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: The no trade clause with the Phillies, right, So he 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: said he hasn't spoken to owner or GM or present 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: base boss, whatever you want to call. But isn't this 123 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: a super simple dave on the line? Hey, Bryce, I 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: went and cleared it up on Foul Territory right after. 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: That's really the only show you should be watching and 126 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: paying attention to daily. You should go on that show too. Anyway, 127 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: we're not trading you. We love you. I reiterated that 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: if you want, I can get the Foul Territory team 129 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: behind the scenes to cut the clip and send it 130 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: to you as well. But in all seriousness, I have 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: the quote that started the trade speculation, and this is 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: how the news cycle is. I don't want to say dangerous, 133 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: but full of crap nowadays. Joel Sherman is an insider. 134 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: He reports on news, trades, et cetera, just like Ken does, 135 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 2: just like many others in the industry do, right, That's 136 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: one part of the job. Those insiders also are commentators 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: and have opinion, and they're allowed to have opinions. They 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: write columns, they go on shows. Sometimes we bring on 139 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Ken and ask him for news. Sometimes we ask what 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: his opinion is. That's fine either way. Joel went on 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: his Yankee podcast and said about Bryce, I think I 142 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: think this is a player that is angry about the 143 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: contract he's currently operating under. Would I be one hundred 144 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: percent shocked if Bryce Harper gets traded this offseason. No, 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 2: so all he said was in his opinion, probably based 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: on last year wanting an extension. He thinks he doesn't 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: like the contract and wants to move on. So he 148 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: actually said he thinks Bryce wants to go and that's 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: why he doesn't feel one hundred percent shocked. Now, he 150 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: might have felt eighty percent shocked, but not one hundred 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: percent shocked if he gets traded. No report, no talking 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: to anyone on that front right now, fast forward. All 153 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: of a sudden, a lot of the aggregator world looks 154 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: at this and says, oh, here's an insider saying that 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: he's going to get traded. 156 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: Come on. 157 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: So it's a poor job on many people's case, including 158 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: whoever was giving that information to Bryce, or if Bryce 159 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: is seeing that online whatever social media accounts he's following AJC. 160 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: That's the part where I think we're lost in translation. 161 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: Go directly to the source, go to the president baseball 162 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: op go to the owner, and like you said, it 163 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: doesn't even matter anyway with the no trade clause. 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Use that code and 190 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: fill out the post checkout survey to help support the show. 191 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we already have enough GM speak, don't you. 192 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: I mean, all these gems that come on here, there's 193 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: been a few that don't. But how many of these 194 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: gems do we get on here that say they give 195 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: you the perfect long and they just have a lot 196 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: of words. 197 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: I don't ever really say anything or give you any opinion. 198 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: We don't want that. And the guys that. 199 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: Are good again, Dave Dombrowski came on here and he 200 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: laid it flat on the table and said, Bryce is 201 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: not going to be traded. 202 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: We love Bryce. 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: I didn't need to say anything else. Bryce, We're sorry, 204 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: but I don't know, I don't know what else you 205 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: can say. And yeah, sure, right, Scott. People take one 206 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: sentence and it makes for clicks, and everybody wants to click. 207 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 3: So hey, Bryce Harper's gonna get traded. Click click look lolick, 208 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: look look, look look click. Every person in Philly freaks 209 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: out what and then Bryce probably he gets a text 210 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: from somebody. I don't know if this is true or not, 211 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: and this is my Someone probably texts him and says, hey, Bryce, 212 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: do you hear you get the rumors you're getting traded? 213 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: And Bryce is probably like, what the hell are we 214 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 3: talking about? And then he didn't even read the article, 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 3: he just saw the headline and then boom, next thing 216 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: you know, he's got to go on Matt Gelve's show 217 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 3: and defend himself, which I appreciate him doing that, but 218 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: I mean. 219 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: He's not getting traded. Bryce. 220 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: You have ten to five plus, you have Scott Morris. 221 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 3: Maybe Scott if he gets you traded, I'll get you 222 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: another three hundred million. But you're not getting traded. 223 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. He got duped by clickbait. It takes one 224 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: phone call and I'm sure it's happening. 225 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you can get Sherman's number two if 226 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: he needs it. I'm pretty sure that Scott probably has it. 227 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: Scott Boris probably. 228 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's been back and forth already, but again 229 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: it was only on a pot. He wasn't reporting it. 230 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: Last word crats Bryce subscribe to foul territory and you'll 231 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: find out all you need to find out. Guy, just 232 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 4: hit the subscribe button. Bryce does it. Everyone else can 233 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: do it. 234 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: Bryce will come on someday. But well, I think I 235 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: think now is the time. But anyway, we'll get to 236 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 2: it in the off season coming up next. 237 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: The Orioles have only somebody that played with him. 238 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Who was that? You don't have anybody in this show 239 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: that's played with Bryce Harper. 240 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 4: Pap. 241 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Yeah, I don't think that 242 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: one's gonna go well, although ratings would go through the 243 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: roof if we bring them on for that right the 244 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: official public ten year later apology or something like that. Anyway, Hey, 245 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Twins manager process here. So Dan 246 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: Hayes reported over the weekend that they're likely down before 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: there's still a chance World Series ends. They look into 248 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: some other guys maybe involved in the series right now, 249 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: but it sounds like James Rowson, Ryan Flaherty, Scott Servis, 250 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 2: Derek Sheling for the four. 251 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: Derek Shelton would be Roco Baldelli, wasn't he there was 252 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: his bench coach. Wouldn't that be just like going back 253 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: to Roco kind of sort of maybe. I don't know, 254 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: Ralson was they didn't like them enough to keep them. 255 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: Ralson was their hitting coach. I mean they signed him 256 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: an extension and fired them, so they didn't like them 257 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: that much. Roson was the someone. Yeah, Rolson was their 258 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: hitting coach for a while. 259 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. 260 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 3: I mean Scott Servis, what did he do to deserve it? 261 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: I mean he got fired from his best friend. I mean, 262 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. 263 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting names. 264 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: You would think you would think the twin, like I 265 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: know Nick Punto was on this list, but he didn't 266 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: make the cut. 267 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Flaherty might be nice. He's a new guy. 268 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: He's been around, he's been on winning teams, and I 269 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: like Ryan Flaherty, So I don't know, maybe try him. 270 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Try something different. 271 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: You got a team that's not going to probably compete, 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: right because I'm not gonna spend money, So why not? 273 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, what do I know? 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Hey, Ryan Ripton joins us right now, CEO of Ryan 275 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: Ripkin Media, and he's live Tuesdays through Thursdays on his 276 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: own YouTube show. I catch it frequently for a little 277 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: dose of what's going on with Baltimore. First time on here, Ryan, 278 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: great to have you on. How you doing. 279 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys having me on and always with news. 280 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Right. 281 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 5: I wish that this news of the new manager broke, 282 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 5: you know, between nine to five, But that's not how 283 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 5: this works in the baseball world, right. 284 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: Oh, don't get me started. For many off seasons you 285 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: get the same situation. Ryan, I'll let you in on 286 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: a little secret. Okay. Owners like to have cocktails late 287 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: at night on weekends. Often we see the trades, and 288 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: not trades, it's more signings that happened. Like last offseason. 289 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: You can look, half the signings happened at like twelve 290 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: thirty on a Friday or Saturday night, East Coast time. 291 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: So you're catching the owners at nine to thirty West Coast, 292 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: maybe having a cocktail or an East Coast guy like that. 293 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: So anyway, look for that. It's something that bothers us frequently. 294 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: But let's get into that news story that broke late 295 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: Sunday night. Craig Albernaz is going to be the new 296 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: manager of the Orioles at age forty two. What do 297 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: you know and do you like the move? 298 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: Well, definitely, it wasn't on anyone's Bengo card when you 299 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 5: got the news last night late that the Orioles were 300 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: in the agreement, are finalizing the deal. Now, if you 301 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 5: take a step back, fans reaction is going to be, well, 302 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: who is Craig Albernaz? You know, where is this veteran 303 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: presence manager or why haven't we heard anything from him? Now? 304 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: If we continue to roll it back the baseball side 305 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: of it, understanding Craig's background, a guy that came from 306 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: the Rays obviously with the Guardians, and in between that 307 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 5: with the San Francisco Giants, and a guy with an 308 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 5: organization that is focused on little things and yes, metric 309 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 5: based with the Rays and has a great reputation. You know, 310 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: that was the things that were jumping off the page 311 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: to me. Everyone I've talked to about him really likes 312 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: him as a communicator, but as well as a guy 313 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: that they believe is kind of that next up and 314 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 5: coming manager. And so when I was talking about this 315 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 5: for the last weeks here on my show was the 316 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: Orioles could have gone a couple different ways. I didn't 317 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: see the veteran manager just because completely old school. You 318 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: gotta let then that manager, the old school veteran manager 319 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 5: manage how he wants to, and I wasn't sure if 320 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: that was going to be a fit for the front office. 321 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: And then it was up and coming next manager, or 322 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 5: you stay with Tony Manzolino, And we got that answer 323 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 5: last night. And now it's going to be a wait 324 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: and see. There's gonna be a lot of pros and cons, 325 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: but those were all kind of my initial thoughts and reactions. 326 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 3: Well, why not go old school, Brian? Why not go 327 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: you kind of had the new school guy in Brandon Hyde. 328 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: We saw how that ended up. They didn't win a 329 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: playoff game. Why not go old school? 330 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: Why not? 331 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not going to bring back Buck Showalter, 332 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: but somebody that's been around and managed before and has 333 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: the experience a little bit that can give a little 334 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: pushback to michae Elias because Michael Olias, as you know 335 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: there in Baltimore, has taken some heat for some of 336 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: the things that have happened. 337 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: So is this a case of, hey, we don't want 338 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: to go old school. 339 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: Craig will be on the same teams as Michael Olias 340 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: and they can work together and try to figure this 341 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: thing out how to make this team good again. 342 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: Well, it's an interesting question, you know, and because you're 343 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: looking at what was the questions around this team this 344 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: past year was how does this young team take that 345 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 5: next step? Do you need a guy that's in there 346 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 5: that's going to help show them the way or to 347 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: get quote unquote more of the old school baseball guys 348 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 5: that can be there and create that experienced, been there 349 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: before type of feeling. And I just we know this 350 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 5: now with front offices, when it comes to the management 351 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 5: in the clubhouse, in the locker room, it's different than 352 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 5: it was five years ago, a decade ago, two decades ago, 353 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: where there can't be as much contention as there once was. 354 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 5: You got you kind of have to be aligned philosophically. 355 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: Now. 356 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 5: One thing I want to say for michae Elias is 357 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 5: I do believe this past year he sat there and 358 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 5: went what we have done hasn't worked, and we need 359 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 5: to try to be more open minded. And the number 360 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 5: one thing that the Orioles need, and it didn't matter 361 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 5: who the manager was gonna be, was you philosophically, in 362 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 5: my opinion, had to get better at developing these young 363 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: guys and then teaching them how to go and win 364 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 5: the games. When things get tough, and I think that's 365 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 5: a philosophical thing, whether you bring this manager in or 366 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 5: it's being taught. But what's happening is there were so 367 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 5: many guys in the Oriols it felt like they didn't 368 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: have the exact role. There was a lot of the 369 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 5: same type of hitters we know in a lineup. You 370 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: need the boppers, you need the guys that get on base, 371 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 5: and above all, you need to find a way. And 372 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 5: I think that there was a little bit of confusion. 373 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 5: I think that there was a little bit of uncertainty 374 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 5: with a lot of the guys because the one thing 375 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 5: this Orioles team does not lack, it does not lack talent, 376 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 5: but I think philosophically it lacks what do we need 377 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: to do to take the next step. So I think 378 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: they're taking the bet that Craig Albernaz, young coach that 379 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 5: is coming from the Guardians, who all they do is 380 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 5: find ways to win, that he's going to connect with 381 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 5: these young guys and help Michaelias in this front office 382 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 5: get the most out of them going in the twenty 383 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: twenty six. 384 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: Hey, if you want to take care of yourself, your 385 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: body and everything that goes into health, fitness, and nutrition. 386 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: Superpower provides crafts what I would call the pro experience 387 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: for the everyday person, one. 388 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 4: Hundred percent super easy. 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There's just no way that we 406 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: can or is he going ah, whatever, you know, we 407 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: got Chicano. I really thought he was going to be 408 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: an all star, like he had money to spend, and 409 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 4: in my opinion, he flushed it. 410 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: So, yes, you can go back and look at it. 411 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 5: Did the Orioles do a good job of bolstering their 412 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 5: pitching staff? I think we know the answer in twenty 413 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 5: twenty five emphatic No, I think last year. What I 414 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 5: want to at least point out ownership's first full off 415 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: season was this past year. Yes, they took over and 416 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: everyone was excited in twenty twenty four, but they didn't 417 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: even get the look at it all. Right, well, what 418 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: do we have to do? 419 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: You know? Now? 420 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 5: The pressure and even the one thing going back to 421 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: that manager talk of why I was wondering who it 422 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: was going to be. I think job is in Michael 423 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: isaa's decision on who he hires. The pressure really is 424 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: on the front office because the expectation for this Oriols 425 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 5: team now in twenty twenty six, right, it's not to oh, well, 426 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: let's just let's develop these guys and let's get better. No, no, no, 427 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: it's you got to compete to win the AL East again, 428 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: because you did it in twenty three. You were a 429 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 5: top team in twenty four where you were holding on 430 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 5: for dear life and made the postseason. You got to 431 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 5: find a way to get over the hump. And I 432 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 5: do believe that they are looking at all different components, 433 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: and I think the one thing that they have to 434 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 5: no matter what, is they have to over expect, you know, 435 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: all the injuries that can have happen in the pitching world. 436 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 5: And I do believe they're going to be extremely aggressive 437 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: in the pitching department. What that looks like, you know, 438 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 5: I wish I had the crystal ball that that's gonna 439 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 5: say they're gonna go out and get a top end guy, 440 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: They're going to make a trade. But the reality is 441 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 5: there are three guys right now in that staff that 442 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 5: for me, on the Oriols you can count on or 443 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: who you expect. Kyle Bradish is gonna be there if 444 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 5: he's healthy. Trevor Rodgers looked really good. You hope he 445 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: can implement that. And then Dean Kramer, because he eats innings, 446 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 5: he's been there. You can remove the month of April 447 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: for Dean Kramer. His numbers look insanely better. And then 448 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 5: I know that they have Wells and you have Grayson 449 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: Rodriguez and I love Grayson. Unfortunately, the biggest thing Grayson's 450 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 5: got to be healthy. So you can't expect that Grayson's 451 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: gonna be ready. So you got to go and get 452 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 5: three or four arms. So this offseason, the most pressure 453 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 5: is on Michaelias, but also this Baltimore Oriols team, Craig 454 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: Albernaz has to be ready for this team is expected 455 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: to win, and not just we're gonna get over five hundred, no, no, no, 456 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 5: you got to make some noise and get a postseason 457 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: victory on top of it. 458 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 3: Ryan, you mentioned the pitching. The guy who leads that 459 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: pitching for years we thought would be Adley Rutchman. They 460 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 3: signed Basaio Basalalo to the contract extension and he's a catcher. 461 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: Is he a catcher long term? 462 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: We don't know. 463 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: But you mentioned development, like the biggest thing. When I 464 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: look at the Orioles, they had Mayo, they had er Said, 465 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: they had Retchman, they had Henderson, they have Holiday, they 466 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: have all these guys Westbird, but none of them have 467 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: become a gunner. 468 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Probably is the exception of this. 469 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: I'll leave Gunner out of this, but none of these 470 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: guys have taken that next step to be the superstar 471 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: that the Orioles for years. We're not trading this guy. 472 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: We're not gonna trade this guy. We're not gonna trade 473 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: that guy. And it's all been position players. Is Craig 474 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 3: the guy to help him say, hey, this is how 475 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 3: we take the next step? Is there somebody else that 476 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: are gonna bring in to help these guys, because to me, yes, 477 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 3: you can look at the pitching, but the position player 478 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: wise hasn't taken the next step. And kind of the 479 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: face of that to me is Adley Rutchman, because I 480 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: thought he was gonna be an absolute superstar. And now 481 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 3: they have Asaiyo who they brought in as a catcher 482 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: and they signed him. What's Adley's future and how can 483 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: they get these guys to take the next step position 484 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: player wise? 485 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that is probably the biggest headline 486 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: if we're gonna to really focus on and be specific. 487 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: And I said this last year going into twenty twenty five, 488 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: with all of the question marks around the pitching staff, 489 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 5: how would they hold up? And we know, you give 490 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: up five six runs a game, you're probably not gonna 491 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 5: win a lot of games. That's just the nature of 492 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: the business. But My motto last year was you go 493 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 5: as far as this young core takes you, and the 494 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 5: oriel strength last year needed to be their offense, and 495 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 5: it was too inconsistent. Whether it was guys being injured, 496 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: which are things that you can't control, or just in 497 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 5: the moment situationally having to carry your team. No one 498 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 5: stepped up in that manner. You know. I'm still very 499 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 5: bullish on a lot of those guys, you know, Gunner Henderson. 500 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 5: I'm not worried about Gunner at all being around him. 501 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 5: I got an opportunity in the minor leagues to play 502 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: with Wan Soda in the Nationals organization, and then I 503 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 5: got to be around Gunner and spring training, especially six 504 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 5: weeks coming out of COVID, where you can just watch 505 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 5: a guy and you kind of have that oh crap moment. 506 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 5: I had that moment for Juan Soto. I still have 507 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 5: that moment for Gunner Henderson. So I think he's going 508 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 5: to elevate his game going to the next year. But 509 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: as far as Adli Rutchman's concerned, you know, and a 510 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: lot of these young guys, you know, when you come 511 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: up through the system and you're told how great you are, 512 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 5: and the Oriols didn't have any hiccups until the midway 513 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 5: through twenty twenty four. For this young nucleus, it tests you, 514 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 5: and I think for these guys, how do you handle 515 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 5: that adversity. I'm buying Adlei Rutchman that he's going to 516 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 5: be able to be that backstop. I think Sam Besillo 517 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: is going to play a lot of first base and 518 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: he's going to catch as well. But that's a securit 519 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 5: or it's an insurance policy if that's the case an 520 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 5: Adlee doesn't work out. But the biggest thing, you know, 521 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 5: Adley's got to stay healthy. I thought, if he didn't 522 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: get hurt in June, we were going to see that resurgence, 523 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 5: But for two years in a row, he's been banged up, 524 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: So I'm watching that. I do think, above all, though, 525 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: when you're looking at this Orioles team, do you have 526 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 5: a veteran guy in that lineup that you can depend on? 527 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: Because right now, when I mentioned earlier, there's a lot 528 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: of guys in this lineup that are trying to figure 529 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 5: out who they are. You know, we can go to 530 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 5: the Guardians since Craig Albernaz just came from there. What's 531 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: Stephen Kwan's role Stephen Kwan, He's a tough out, he's gritty, 532 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: knows how to put the ball in play, makes things happen. 533 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: And then Jose Ramirez, what's your job? Get him in? 534 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Do that? 535 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 5: The Orioles don't have their their RBI guys, and they 536 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: don't have the guys that can make something happen. So 537 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of these young guys figuring 538 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 5: it out. But I think they do need one more 539 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 5: big bat in the middle of that order that can 540 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 5: help stabilize them because there are still so many question 541 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 5: marks and so many young players that are trying to 542 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 5: figure out who they are. 543 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: I agree with you that I think Gunnar Henderson is 544 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: a superstar can still be a superstar. Is there any 545 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: way that he doesn't play shortstop for the next three years? 546 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: Is there any way that the Orioles have enough because 547 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: I've heard it from scouts, I've heard it from different 548 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: people in baseball. Maybe he's kind of miscast as a 549 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: shortstop and maybe their best shortstop is Holiday. So is 550 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: there any way that the Orioles have enough, have enough 551 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: gunction to say he's not our shortstopper? Are they fully 552 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: committed and I'll lose my job to Gunner Henderson playing short. 553 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 5: I think Gunner Henderson is the shortstop of the future 554 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Orioles, you know, and I know that 555 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: there's that conversation around could you have a better fit, 556 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 5: could Gunner Henderson profile better at third base? And with 557 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 5: that help in that conversation, sure, I think you saw 558 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: a lot of strides from Gunner at the end of 559 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: this past year of what he can do and what 560 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 5: he can do really really well. I mean defensively, you 561 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: can argue that last stretch he was the best defensive 562 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 5: short stop down the stretch. I'm not saying that he is, 563 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 5: but you can argue of how well he was playing 564 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 5: down the stretch. And Gunner physically, you know, I come 565 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 5: from a family where I had a family member that 566 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: was a pretty large individual and a lot of people 567 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 5: didn't think that he could play the position because of 568 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 5: his size and his quote unquote abilities. You'd have to 569 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 5: move Gunner Henderson. I think is in that conversation where 570 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 5: where Gunner gets in trouble is not because of his 571 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 5: physical ability. It's continuing to learn how to play the position. 572 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 5: And I would rather take the most physically gifted infielder 573 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: and that is still Gunner and continue to work with 574 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 5: him because he can make the most spectacular plays. But 575 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: now the goal for him moving forward is can you 576 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: make those in between plays more routine? Can you take 577 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: the pressure off of the rest of the group in 578 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: the infield? And I think that's the evolution of the 579 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 5: young player. But again, I believe the Gunner Henderson should 580 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: be the guy, and I think the Orioles are looking 581 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: at him and they think he's just scratching the surface 582 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: of how good he could be as the future shortstop 583 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Orioles. 584 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: Right, And first of all, I want to make sure 585 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: that people know I did say that Gunner was the 586 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: exception to this question of not being developed, because I 587 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: think he's a star. So I want people to understand 588 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: that I did not say that he was. I did 589 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: say the Gunner was the one guy that has taken 590 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: that next step. But before we let you go, what's 591 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 3: the one move you'd like to see him make? Is 592 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: it starting pitcher, is it veteran position player? Is it 593 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: back end bullpen guy? What's the one move? And I 594 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: know you're gonna say starting pitcher, So then I'm gonna 595 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: ask you to give me a name. Would they make 596 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: a trade for Trek Scouble? Would they make a trade 597 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: for someone of that level and give up some of 598 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: these guys that have possibly been untouchable for so long. 599 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 5: Well, I think every team would say starting pitching, you 600 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: need it, you know, So I think the Oriols are 601 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 5: no exception there. I don't see a move for Schooble. 602 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 5: I don't think the Tigers should move him unless it's 603 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: a king's ransom. But that's a whole other discussion, because 604 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: the Tigers they should be competing next year to try 605 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: to go out and win this whole thing. But for 606 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 5: the Orioles, trade partners make sense. I know the Pirates, 607 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: you know, when you look at them for their needs 608 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: compared to what they have in the pitching staff, would 609 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: they finally be willing to give up a guy with control? 610 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: I know, Mitch Keller was a name that's been thrown out. 611 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 5: I love his stuff, you know, And it makes sense. 612 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 5: Sandy down in Miami looked like a prime candidate. But 613 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: now the Marlins they look like they're turning things around 614 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: a lot quicker. So I just don't know if they're 615 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 5: gonna go out and get the top end free agent. 616 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: You know, Ranger Suarez is a guy that I really 617 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: like because I like guys that know what they're doing 618 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: and they can pitch to what they have. The power 619 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 5: guys are great, but you got to know guys that 620 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: can go out there and make pitches. So do they 621 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 5: target a guy like that in free agency? And lastly, 622 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 5: though outside of pitching, I think they'd need a veteran bat. 623 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 5: And actually, before now or in the past, you felt 624 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: like they had an idea of who their outfield is, 625 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: and you really don't. You know the infield set. You're 626 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 5: gonna have Westburg, Holiday Gunner and then probably Kobe Meyo 627 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 5: Sambasaio and see what happens with Ryan Mountcastle. You don't 628 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: know who's gonna be in your outfield. Tyler O'Neil has 629 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: the option, which I expect him to pick up. I 630 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 5: think you need a guy, a veteran bat that when 631 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 5: things go wrong, he writes the ship. I really do. 632 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 5: And I can't sit there and think that they're gonna 633 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 5: go after a guy like Kyle Tucker, but they need 634 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 5: they need someone to anchor down that lineup because so 635 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: many times last year the team would get in a 636 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: funk and no one helped them get out of it. 637 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: So I would say prioritizing two veteran bats, not just one, 638 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 5: can help this Orioles team hopefully take the next step 639 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 5: because if not, oh goodness in Baltimore. Here hasn't been 640 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: pretty this year. If you've been an Orioles fan Ravens fan, 641 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 5: I don't know if the city can take the Orioles 642 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: having another down year so to speak, well last. 643 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,239 Speaker 2: One, yes or no they sweep the front office if 644 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: they don't make the playoffs this year. I mean, they 645 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: were the super Tankers and then took an unacceptable in 646 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: my mind, step back two missus in a row. After 647 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: all the pain in the city had to go through 648 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: for the Orioles to get to be the Astros. This 649 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: is not what the Astros did for twelve years. Do 650 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: they sweep the front office? It sounds like they're not 651 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: going to hire a GM under Elias this year, maybe 652 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: waiting to see how the year goes. 653 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: I would say, unless it's a embarrassing year, I'd say no. 654 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 5: Even if they missed the playoffs, I would still say no. 655 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: I think it depends on how it goes. Now, if 656 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 5: they're worse than this past year, then all bets are 657 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 5: off and it could definitely happen. But I think it 658 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 5: would have to take something so embarrassing for the Orioles 659 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 5: to make that move. That's just my gut right now. 660 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 2: Five hundred team, which would be better than this past season. 661 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: You think they keep rolling with the group. 662 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: I think they roll with the group and then the 663 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: seat gets hot. 664 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: Oh we're gonna have to bring them back on to 665 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: get into that. Yeah. 666 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of I know you've murt it up. 667 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: Have you seen the Doctor Pepper commercial where they have 668 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: the coach and they're like hot seats sit on and 669 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: they turn on the flame. It was all over college 670 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: Football's hilarious. So that's the That's when I when you 671 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 3: said that the seed will get hot. That's all I 672 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: could think about when you said that, right, is that commercial? 673 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 5: Well, now now I have a good visualization as well. 674 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 5: Now that's all I'm gonna think about the rest of 675 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 5: the day, to be honest, talk about it any any 676 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 5: time more. Hopefully it's not the case and the birds 677 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: are back. Maybe they pulled the Toronto Blue Jays. Well, 678 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: if they did this year. 679 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Why not? 680 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 5: You know, I think that'd be that that's the best 681 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 5: case in Baltimore. But we'll take it day by day. 682 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 5: Let's win, let's win, Let's win eighty five games next 683 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 5: year and go for it. 684 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: They better find their vlag guerrero then. 685 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: That's right, not a core. Yeah, yeah, that would be nice. Yes, 686 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: well this was great Ryan, great insight. Great to have 687 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: you on here for the first time. Appreciate the time 688 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: and everyone that was asking in the chat to check 689 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: out his channel much more on this Tuesday through Thursday Live. 690 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 5: Thanks Ryan, I appreciate you, guys.