1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: You hurt me too, Tea when you tried to boycott 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Magic City. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Oh, I would you know everybody nerves at closing that 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: all my life? 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Grinding all my life sacrifice hustle bag Price, Want a slice? 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: Got the bron of Geist. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: Swap all my life, Poppy grinding all my life, all 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: my life and grinning all my life sacrifice hustle bag Price, 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Want a slice? Doctor Brone Geist Swap all my life, 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: Poppy grinding all my life. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Shasha. I am 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the reropriud of Club 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Shashe and the guy that's stopping buy for conversation and 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: the drink Today. Is one of the most recognized stars 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: on the planet. He's a world famous actor, multi talented 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: TV host, sitcom star, comedian, talented artist, best selling author, 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: children books, illustrator, advertising pitch pitch man, human rights activist, 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: a Hollywood A lister, one of the in celebrities on 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the planet, three times People's Sexiest Man of the Year. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: His acting career spanned four decades. A ward been starting 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Walker fame carrying husband I think your grandfather 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: to proud father, greater Flint, African American Sports Hall of 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: fam in Ductee, NFL alum, good friend of mine, Terry Crews. 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: It's been good, man, It's been a long time. 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: It's been a very long time. 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: Because I remember I used to bump into you all 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: the time, especially at events at the Super Bowl, but 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen you in a long time. 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: And you say, you know a lot of things. You know, 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: you had the COVID and you know the family, you know, got. 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Grandkids now, so it's just not as it's just not 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: as not as portable as it used to be. 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but how you being? Man? 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: I've been great, man, been really really good. I'm just thankful, bro, 35 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 4: just thankful to still be here. Right, that's the big thing. 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: Let's let's let's get back to you. Know you did 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 4: play at the National Football League. But I'm gonna go 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: back to you to your your high school and growing up. 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: You grew up in Flint when you were small, did 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: you want to with football on the list? Did you 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: want to be a professional football player? What did you 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: want to be growing up in Flint? Coming up in Flint, 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: I always knew I wanted to be an entertainer because 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: I came from the art thing. I was an artist, 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: pay team, okay, sketching. My first scholarship wasn't in football. 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: I had a scholarship the Western Michigan University as an artist, 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 4: and then I walked on to the football team. Uh listen, 48 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 4: well this this is the thing about football. And what 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: was kind of crazy with me is that football was 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: a way out of Flint, Michigan. I followed all the 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 4: greats there were there, Andre Rising that was called Banks. Uh, 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: there were the people even just any kind of athletic mean, 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: Glenn Rice went to Flint. I used to watch Glenn 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: play with Northwestern before he went on to Michigan and 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: went on to the Lakers and became a superstar. So 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: I knew athletics was going to be my way out 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: because no one was gonna pay me the paint, you 58 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I was airbrushing T shirts and 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: doing all this stuff. You get five hundred dollars maybe 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But with with sports, I knew, 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: I said, this is gonna be my way out. I 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: had friends that were ready for the world. It was 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: either music of sports. I couldn't sing, couldn't do anything, 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 4: and I said, well, this is gonna be my thing. 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: But the big big thing about it is that for me, 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: football was always a means, but it was never the end, right, 67 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 4: which is wild because it took me years to figure. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Out I never really liked football. Wow, you just happen 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: to be good at You were good enough at it 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: to get a you know, to walk on. Did you 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: earn a scholarship? I earned a scholarship. 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: I walked on, earned a scholarship, got drafted in the 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: eleventh round to the Los Angeles Rams in nineteen ninety one, 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: then got cut later on, and then went to the Packers, 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: the Chargers, the Redskins, Eagles, hopped all around because it again, it. 76 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: Was my way to It was the only way I 77 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: saw to make some money, right. 78 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: But the big big deal was is that And this 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 4: is another thing. Man, we played at the same time. 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: You were you you became superstar pro bowler. The whole thing. 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: I always thought, well, you know, maybe it wasn't for me. 82 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 4: But the real thing was I realized is that because 83 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 4: of this deep down belief that I really I didn't 84 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: really like football that much, I wasn't really. 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't studying it. 86 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: You see, what I mean, like there was a thing 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 4: where you had to go to a whole other level 88 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: to be at your level. Yes, and it was other 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: things I wanted to do. There was just so many 90 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: other interests. Like I'd be in practice and my mind 91 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: be going off on what I was going to be 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: doing afterwards, what I was going to do before, and 93 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: I I don't have to say this because it's funny. 94 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: My wife, she she was my wife, was there the 95 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: whole time, and we've been married thirty four years. She said, 96 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 4: you know, maybe maybe wasn't that good. And I said, 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 4: you're probably right, because but the thing is, while you're 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: doing it, you're thinking, I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do. 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: But I realized when I look back, I didn't study 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 4: my plays enough. I didn't do the little little things 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: because I had I had my interest. My minds were 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: always in another place. 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Had you given football what you've given your entertainment career, 104 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: do you think you would have been better at it? 105 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely? But this it was too little, too late, right, 106 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: you know, once you start tooling around. Also, how I 107 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: came in. I came in in the eleventh rounds, So 108 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: it was, yeah. 109 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: People looking now, they're like eleven rounds. 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 4: No, that's way back, you know, which is basically a 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 4: glorified free agent. But I had some people who believed 112 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: in me. 113 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: I was a hustler. 114 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: And that's another thing too. I couldn't catch, I couldn't throw. 115 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: My ability was the ability to take tremendous amounts of pain. 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: I was a special teamer. I was that guy bustle 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: up the webs. They ain't even have a wedge anymore, okay, 118 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: but I was a guy that they was like, he's 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: giving it up every time, and that would make me 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: stick on a team. But then when it came down 121 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: to play and doing the things. 122 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: Being a lineback and hold specific specific physition, and this 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: is the thing. 124 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: It took years for me to realize that and to 125 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 4: come to grips with that, because you always like, I know, 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: I was good enough because of your own pride, right, 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: But then when you look back and you're like, man, 128 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 4: there were people that was just matter. They're just they 129 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 4: were willing to do more. But then once I got 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: an entertainment, I realized that's the gift, what it was 131 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: meant to be. 132 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: It's the secret. 133 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: How supportive of was your family when you're growing up. 134 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Did they know you wanted to be in the entertainment 135 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: because Flint is a very blue collar, hardworking. Normally, you 136 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: go to the factories and that's what you do. You 137 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: graduate high school, you go to the factories, or you 138 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: go to the military and that's it. So how supportive 139 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: was your mom and dad, your family members with you? Like, man, 140 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be an entertainer. I'm gona be in Hollywood. 141 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. 142 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: Did they look at you like, man, you got your mind? Yes? 143 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: First of all, you gotta understand. I feel like I 144 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: got to go to the biblical story of Joseph, you 145 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: know when he told his brothers, yeah, you look, hey, 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: one day, y'all all gonna buy down to me. And 147 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: they was like, oh really, and they sold it. I 148 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 4: used to tell people what my dreams were all the time. 149 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: I was like, I want to be on TV, I 150 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: want to do movies, I want to make movies, I 151 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: want to draw, I want to do this. And they 152 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: were looking at me like I was from another planet. 153 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: They're like, hey, man, you and Flint, what are you 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: talking about? You are so far removed from all that stuff. 155 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: And it kind of got me in trouble a lot. 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: My mother got me in trouble, you know, back then 157 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: and now. But I also realized it was one of 158 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: the things where you know, I had big, big dreams, 159 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: and what was a big, big thing for me is 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: my dad. You know, my father was an alcoholic, but 161 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: also he was one of those guys that came up 162 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: from Georgia's a little small town Edison, Georgia, worked his 163 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: way up, got a factory, and created a life for us. 164 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: But at the same time, he was a little jealous. 165 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: I mean he looked at y'all didn't work as hard 166 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: as I did. Y'all didn't do the things that I 167 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: did to get where I'm from. Y'all, I really experienced life. 168 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: It was one of the things. And so he was 169 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: always kind of he never liked sports. My father hated sports. 170 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: He was always want me to go to army. My 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: mother was super religious, which at the time, you know, 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: going to church. I wasn't allowed to go to movies. 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to play sports. I wasn't allowed to dance. 174 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 4: I wasn't allowed to listen to secondar music. Everything I 175 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: do today I was not allowed to do when I 176 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: was a young man, and so I didn't get to 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: play sports till later, like ninth grade, tenth grade, when 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: they kind of when I cajoled him, but they kind 179 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 4: of got my mom got out of that religious stuff 180 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: a little bit. But it was it was really really 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: strict man. And and when I would start talking about 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 4: that stuff, they were like, we can't even go to 183 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: the movies when you're talking about being in entertainment, right. 184 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 4: It was hard, man, It was really I felt like 185 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 4: a black sheep. I felt like a guy that was 186 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 4: always kind of eyes in the clouds. I'm left handed. 187 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: Everybody else was right handed. 188 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm drawing. 189 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: Everybody's like outside playing and like, hey man, what is 190 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 4: going on? 191 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Do you think because normally the way kids are with parents, 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: the more kids parents don't want a kid to do something, 193 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: the more you drive that kid towards that. And because 194 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: they didn't want you to play sports, and they didn't 195 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: want you to they couldn't see your vision of being 196 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: an artist and being in Hollywood, did that drive the 197 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: passion to make you want to get to it even more? 198 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely? 199 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: You know it's kind of wild because I even I 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 4: even have problems, you know, but there's family members and 201 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 4: different things. A lot of guys counted me out even 202 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: back then, and now they're like, oh, okay, you did 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: their thing and whatever. But it's one of the things 204 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: where you never forget that, right, you know what I mean, 205 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: And you always felt I always felt like I had 206 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: something to prove, and that was that was part of 207 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: the reason I got into football. But then also once 208 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: I got in entertainment, I knew there was no way back. 209 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: Like you got what I'm saying. When I moved out 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: to I retired from the NFL and moved to LA 211 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 4: with my wife, we didn't know anybody. We had to 212 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: start from scratch, and I had my little severance package 213 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 4: from the NFL wasn't a lot of money. 214 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: I didn't very very little. He is still very little. 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: So don't feel bad. It's not like it's it's not 216 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: like it's not like it's me right down front of. 217 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 4: The damn it. I thought, he's get getting paid now, No, 218 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 4: I guess not. But you know, I was a journeyman, 219 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: so I had to start from scratch. 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: Man. 221 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: My first job in LA was sweeping floors, and there 222 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: was a point where I thought, you know, and then 223 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: everybody had counted me out by then. I mean even 224 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 4: there was family member that was like he had a chance, 225 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 4: he blew it, you know. That was that was the consensus. 226 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 4: And it was like, well, yeah, this see I told 227 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: you this NFL thing. 228 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Did you have people to say, you know what, man, brother, 229 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: you in the NFL and you gave that up to 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: come do this? 231 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: Yep? Yep. 232 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: First of all, they were looking at like why you 233 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: keep getting cut? That was the other thing, and it 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 4: was like obviously not working out, and it was just 235 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's one thing where you got a lot 236 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: of people, family friends or so called friends waiting for 237 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: you to fail. 238 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: And that's a big drive for me. It was like 239 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: I love when you count me out. You know, It's 240 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: like one of them. 241 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: Things where I got to show everyone everyone My wife 242 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: one thing. My wife has always always been by my side. 243 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 4: And there was one time when even when she came 244 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: to me and she was like, Terry, look, she said, 245 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: we hurt me. She said, we ain't got no money, 246 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: were starving. We got these two kids. At the time, 247 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: she was pregnant with my third and we had five total, 248 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: and so she was like, what what are we gonna 249 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: do if we're struggling like this, it's not working. And 250 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: when are we gonna go back? We're gonna go back, 251 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 4: I said. We are never leaving. I don't care if 252 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: it happens when we're ninety nine years old. We are 253 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: never leaving, la. I promise you this, I said, if 254 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: we just continue to do that, because this is where 255 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: I had kind of learned the mistakes I had made 256 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 4: in football, and I didn't have another chance on football, 257 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It was kind of like, man, 258 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: if I had just studied a little bit more, if 259 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 4: I had worked a little bit harder, if I'd have 260 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: really really done what I should have been doing. Because 261 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: that's the thing you tell yourself, you've been doing what 262 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 4: you should be doing. 263 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: But then you eat the cake. 264 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you hang out and you do that, and 265 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: you stay up too late and you don't go to bed. 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: You do it and you totally mess your stuff up. 267 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: You show up late for a job interview and then 268 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 4: be like they didn't want me, they hated me. 269 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, you show up late, bro. 270 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: And I totally had to be. 271 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: Honest with myself. Man, start marking off things that I 272 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: wasn't doing. And I said, okay, well I'm going to 273 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: have to do. And this is the way I framed everything. 274 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,479 Speaker 4: Even when I was here in LA I said, imagine 275 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: what if I'm sweeping this floor. Man, you understand I'm 276 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: almost in tears while I'm sweeping this floor because I'm 277 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 4: going through my life may never ever get back to 278 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: where I because once you're in an NFL, you need 279 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: see it. You see the money, you see the stuff. 280 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 4: You're like, man, I'm there, I can touch it. And 281 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 4: then the nice car in the jewelry, you see the 282 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: cars pulling out the line, you see the jurney, you 283 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 4: see the people living the life and the press and 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: now and then all of a sudden, but it's gone, 285 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: and it's gone, right, And I said, man, look okay, 286 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: I said, imagine if someone was going to give me 287 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: a million dollars to sweep this floor, how would you 288 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: sweep it? And this is these are the little bitty 289 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: mindsets that and I remember, I was like, okay, okay, 290 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: I have to imagine I'm going to get a million. 291 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: Dollars if I sweep this floor. 292 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: Correct, Because that was I had to play these kind 293 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 4: of games with my head in order to get over 294 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: the depression. And I remember sweeping and sweeping and sweeping, 295 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, I forgot about my problems. 296 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: I forgot about it. In fact, I was doing something 297 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: about my situation, and I decided to do that about 298 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: every menial job that I ever had. I was filing 299 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: papers and the uh that fell over in the veterans 300 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 4: that Veterans administration, all the papers that fell over in 301 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: the North rich earthquake. 302 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: I'm filing papers. 303 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm doing this. Then I started doing security for movie sets. 304 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: But it wasn't like you know, Bodyguard. It was literally 305 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: I'm standing outside on the parking lot watch it with 306 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: a flashlight. 307 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Watching. 308 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: But what I said is what if someone gave me 309 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: a million dollars to watch this parking lot. I got 310 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: to make sure I had my batteries in my flashlight. 311 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: I ironed my clothes. It was a mindset that I said, 312 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to reverse that bad attitude I had in 313 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: the league that that didn't get me where I wanted. 314 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: I said, now every job I have to treat like that. 315 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 4: And what's so crazy is that I started to do 316 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 4: everything like that, like every little It created a habit 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: in me that kept me going. And so it didn't 318 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: really matter what people said. I felt like I was 319 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: getting this imaginary reward if I just did a great job. Literally, 320 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: if I just pleased God, That's all I had to do. 321 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: But you mentioned depressed depression, because here you are. You 322 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: had spent five sixty leagues years in the NFL and 323 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: now you're sweeping a floor in a warehouse or a 324 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: factory and you're filing papers. 325 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: So how did that mess with you mentally? To know 326 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: that you had a chance and you saw everything. 327 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: All your dreams could have been solved, even though it 328 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: wasn't the path that you that you really wanted to 329 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: be on, but a lot of your things could have 330 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: been solved had you just did that. 331 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: Well, it was one of the things where my wife 332 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: literally because the depression is real when you quit football. 333 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: It's almost like the military. You're trying to figure out 334 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: what else? What am I now? How am I going 335 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: to continue this now? And I have to say this too, 336 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: And so many ballplayers never figured it out, Shannon, And Man, 337 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: I'm fifty five. I can count almost thirty people that 338 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: are dead from the NFL that I played with. They 339 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: ain't even thirty people in my class at high school 340 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: that passed away. But in the NFL gone, I mean 341 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 4: people that I put Junior say out just the other day, 342 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: Frank Whichek. It blows my mind, man, I mean people 343 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: that I play with. I'm sitting there like, wait, Steve 344 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: Henderson's gone, Kevin Green is gone. I was Kevin Green's backup. 345 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: He's gone. And it says, there's something to this, And 346 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: it's usually after they retire and they go through this 347 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: mindset of what am I right now? And you may 348 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: never find it right. And I thank God that I 349 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: have my wife to help me come back to life, 350 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: because she was like Terry. She said, you are bigger 351 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: than this, you are more than this. You have to 352 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: understand that this is. You are past this now again. 353 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 4: There were times when I didn't believe her, but it 354 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: was one of the things where I got so depressed. 355 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: I got out of shape, and I remember my wife 356 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: came up behind me, and this is this was a 357 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 4: life changing moment. 358 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Man. 359 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: She came up behind me and pinched my back fast. 360 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: Now. I was always proud of how I look, you 361 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 362 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: And I said, what what you doing? 363 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: You know it's okay, you know it's cute. 364 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: And I said well, hey, ain't nothing back there. She said, oh, 365 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: it's back here. I said, what know what? And I 366 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: remember saying, okay, if I could change my life if 367 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: I just go back to the gym. And this is 368 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: the thing, man, I hadn't worked out in a year. 369 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: I was depressed, I was tired. I walked in the 370 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: gym and I told him I said, uh, I want 371 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 4: to work out here. And I listen, I ain't never 372 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: paid to work out, no, And they're like, yo, that's 373 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: twenty five dollars a month. I was twenty five dollars 374 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 4: a month. I said, but no, I'm gonna work out 375 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: here and they said, yah, it's twenty. 376 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: Five dollars a month. I remember going, okay, I. 377 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 4: Put my money down and I went in the gym, 378 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: and I was so depressed. I went in, sat on 379 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: a machine, read a magazine, and went home. I said, 380 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: but I gotta come back. I said, make sure I 381 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: come back twenty days, twenty one days, and I made 382 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: a promise to myself just keep coming back and do 383 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 4: That turned into thirty something mile years. Man, I'm right 384 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: here like I never stopped that whole time. But that 385 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: was It's only what I have to say. Is These 386 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 4: things are what I call incremental. It's not one big 387 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 4: giant thing. 388 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: For me. 389 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 4: It was always one little message, one little thing. And 390 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: you know when I also, when I moved out here, 391 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: I was I started trying to get my thing on 392 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: animation cause I was like, I'm an artist, so I 393 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: can show you my portfolio. And I had my portfolio 394 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: in a Disney works at Hanno Barbara all this stuff. 395 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 4: But then at the same time, uh, hand drawing, animation 396 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: went out the window because toy story came out. So 397 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they were giving me my portfolio 398 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: back like that don't work. And then I got a 399 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 4: chance to act, and the rest is history. I did 400 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: not know that that was my destiny. I had no idea. 401 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: I actually was watching Q's car on the set of 402 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 4: Next Friday, and I was watching watching with all these 403 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: guys walking around this movie set as a as a 404 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: security guard, and Cube would walk by every day and 405 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 4: I watched his cars like, yes, mister Cube, are you 406 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: mister Qby Like yeah, yeah, what's up man? 407 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 2: You know walk by like we just watched the. 408 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: Car, and and then all the way to being in 409 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: the next movie Friday After Next, which gave me my shot, 410 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: which really blew me up, which you know, just being 411 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 4: close being it. A lot of times for me, it 412 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: was just being just showing up and being open to 413 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: it because here it is. I didn't even know this 414 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: was my destiny, right, you know what I mean. I 415 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: never told anybody that I wanted to. I was trying 416 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: to get like, be a filmmaker and do all this stuff. 417 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: But it's unbelievable, man. And when I see that, you know, 418 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: I got a star and a Walk of Fame and 419 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: this stuff is still still I'm the most grateful man 420 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: in this town. 421 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Man. 422 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: When you tell your kids and one day you're gonna 423 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: be able to tell your grandkids, I don't know how 424 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: old they are or even like bro I was in 425 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: the league. I played against Barry, played with Jacket Slader, 426 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: played with Kevin Green. I played with some of the 427 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: all time great players. When you look back, are you 428 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and all? Because I remember when I first got into 429 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: the league and I saw all the players that I 430 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: had watched on television, from Jared Rice to Joe Montana 431 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: to Lawrence Taylor and all these guys, I'm like, wow, 432 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: you know, one day, even if I don't have if 433 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: I don't have a long career, I can say, well, man, 434 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: I was on the field with this guy, on the 435 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: field with that guy. Do you ever look back and 436 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: think about the journey that you went on through the NFL. 437 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 4: All the time, every day. First of all, this is 438 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 4: the thing people are always measure success by, oh man, 439 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: this was the first round pick. He's the big height, 440 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 4: he's the guy. And then you know what they measure 441 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: success from people who are good to great. But to me, 442 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 4: the true true measure of success it's always been how 443 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 4: long your journey was, meaning it was horrible, too great, 444 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I listen when I look 445 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: at what Flint, Michigan is right now, and I look 446 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: at where I came from, and I look at the again, 447 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 4: the friends, the people I came and how they ended 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 4: up and and how so many people fell to the side. 449 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: I just go, man, and I'm still here. Not only 450 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: am I still here, I'm thriving. I have to look 451 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 4: at the whole journeys. I got to look at how 452 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: far I came as opposed to oh man, you know, yeah, 453 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm here now and I want this and 454 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 4: then that. But I realized, man, I am one in 455 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: a million. And this is where the gratitude comes from. 456 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: When you you're in the season and because it's tough, 457 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned the teams that you played for, the Rams 458 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: you played for, the package you played for, the Washington 459 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: to get cut during the season and you got to 460 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: tell your white baby, you know, I got released today 461 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: and you know what, So what was she saying to 462 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: your team baby? 463 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 4: We might need to get this up. Can I tell 464 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: you the story? 465 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 466 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: Here. 467 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: I am nineteen ninety five, I'm on to Washington Redskins. 468 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 4: There was a little bit. There was a time when 469 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: you know, you know, they had the depth chart sitting 470 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: up there and the whole thing, and it was right 471 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 4: before the camp, I mean right after camp, and they said, congratulations, 472 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: you made the team. And you know it's Monday of 473 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: the week where you're about to get ready for the 474 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 4: first game. 475 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: And I'm going, oh my god, this is it. 476 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 4: This is it. 477 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: I tell my wife. We celebrate. 478 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 4: We went through the cutdown days and the whole weekend. 479 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: It's Monday. We go to practice our practice all day. 480 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: My wife while I'm. 481 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: In practice, she checking my kids into school because we 482 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: had to wait until I found out if I made 483 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 4: the team right, right, and this is actually this was 484 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: not ninety five, was ninety six. And here i am 485 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: North Turners, the coach, and I'm like, I'm so happy 486 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: we made it. I go to practice, I go home. 487 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: I'm tired. I come b home and they said, hey, man, 488 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: come back up the Redskin Park and bring your playbook. 489 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: Wait. 490 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: I had signed my kids in the school. I said wait, 491 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: but I went through the whole cutdown right, bruh. I said, 492 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: wait a minute, y'all, y'all joking. Somebody playing with me, 493 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: Like they said Monday, we I'm preparing for the week, right, 494 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: brought my playbook up there. They said, we're gonna let 495 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 4: you go man. On that Tuesday, which is the NFL 496 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 4: day off. They brought another linebacker from another team. And 497 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: I was sitting out there the whole time, and I 498 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: was gone that level of pain and my wife is 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 4: looking He's like, but I thought we made it, big, dude. 500 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 4: I get choked up thinking about it right now. Man, Man, 501 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 4: my kids are like, so I can't go to this school. 502 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna work something out, dude. 503 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: I sat the whole year, didn't get picked up, tried 504 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: to find ways to make it work. Nothing, dude, You're 505 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: talking about the level of life. And then and then 506 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 4: I was stuck in the city where I got cut 507 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: from because you can't just hop up and leave. 508 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm there with my family. 509 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: I like, I'm a move in with my parents, and 510 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 4: so I'm watching my putting. The friends are like, hey, man, yeah, 511 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: I'm calling hey guys, what y'all doing? And they're like, 512 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: we got a game okay, Yeah. I can't hang with 513 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 4: them the morning. So I'm lonely man, and it's just 514 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: me and my wife sitting in the town waiting for 515 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: Western next. 516 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: Bruh. 517 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: That level of that's something now has never really talked about. 518 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: That's so many players because the sad office is you've 519 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 4: been there for a whole year. Remember, you don't get 520 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 4: your money to the game right. So I spent six 521 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: months on two hundred dollars a week to work out 522 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: and just knowing, just giving you risk everything so you 523 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: can make it and so you can at least get 524 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: that game check right. And I didn't get that was 525 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: that was that? 526 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: That was Washington your last stop. 527 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: It was I actually fill up for Eagles was my 528 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: last stop because I went the whole season and got 529 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: picked up right before Christmas for the playoffs for the Eagles, 530 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: so I got to play with that one last and 531 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: we played the forty nine ers and got in a 532 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 4: wild card game and got sent out, and that was 533 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: it for me. That was it. I mean, I played 534 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: that one game, got me a little money, got that 535 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: one game check at the end of the season, right, 536 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: and then. 537 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: Little playoff money. That was it was that. 538 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: The final straw was that when you knew made it's 539 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: over for me. I'm done. The stress on your family, 540 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: you is one thing I put you got wife and kids, tea. 541 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: But wait, I put her through it one more time 542 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: because I got to try out with the forty nine 543 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: ers and I went, I said, but you know, you 544 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 4: chase it right, man. It's like a drug. 545 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: It is. It really is, man. 546 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: It's one of the things where you're like, I'm this 547 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 4: close if I just and man. I went got a 548 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: try out with the forty nine ers, and I remember 549 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 4: this coach threw the ball at me and for some 550 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: reason he was about me. But to you, man, he went, whuh. 551 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: I suck my hand up and my finger was pointing 552 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: down with and I was like yo, and I knew 553 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 4: it was dislocated. I popped it back in. It was 554 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 4: swelled up like a sausage. And I fumbled around that tryout. Man, 555 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: That's when I knew it was over. Like when I'm 556 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 4: running around there and I'm going, what am I doing? 557 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 4: What am I doing? 558 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: This is it? 559 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: I don't have it no more. I don't know if 560 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 4: I can summon the strength to go through this again, 561 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 4: you know. 562 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: And I was it. 563 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 4: And then my wife because we gotta this is now. 564 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 4: I gotta go back to all the way back to college. 565 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: When I'm dating my wife. I told her we were 566 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: sitting out Wendy's parking lot, were sitting in the Wendy's 567 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 4: little places in the front where we sit there, and 568 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 4: I said, look, first of I'm playing the NFL. 569 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: Then we're gonna move to Hollywood. We're gonna make movies. 570 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: I made that promise, you see, because I always talk. 571 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: That's what got on everybody's nerve. Okay, there was like 572 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 4: he talking again. But I told her, I said that's. 573 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: What we're gonna do. We're gonna play in the NFL. 574 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 2: Then we're gonna move to Hollywood and make movies. She 575 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: was like, okay, okay. 576 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: When I came home from that audition, from that from 577 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: that tryout. She looked at me and she said, remember 578 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 4: when you said we're gonna move to Hollywood make movies? 579 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: You ready? 580 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 4: Wow? 581 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you see that right there? 582 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: When I talked about somebody who's down with you? She said, 583 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: remember when you said that, Let's go, man? And I said, 584 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: you serious? You serious? 585 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: She said, let's go. Right. 586 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: We was in a little town home that we had 587 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: rented from another player, no furniture in it, just see it, 588 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: trying to see what's next. We loaded everything in our truck. 589 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: I had on werneas of our pithin at the time. 590 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 4: We loaded everything, put our two girls in the back 591 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: and drove straight out to California and didn't know anybody 592 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 4: whoof Wow. 593 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: I said, Man, I'm telling you that's power. Was it 594 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: that she knew you so well, she had been with 595 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: you for so long, she saw you come home. Not 596 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: to not to make it, baby, I don't think I 597 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: made it, And to know it's over. Yep, It's time 598 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: to transition into that second part. You know how he said, 599 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play in the NFL and then we're 600 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna go make movies, where the first part is over. 601 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: Let's close the door. Let's open this door. 602 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: She was so gentle with it, like, you know, because 603 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: again with me, you know, going like I said, but 604 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: we lived on a suitcase, been packing and move and 605 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 4: she was like, honey, I don't are you doing everything? 606 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing what I'm doing, I'm what I'm talking you know. 607 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Did she ever tell you, Terry? I don't think Terry. 608 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't think you're putting your heart into it. I 609 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: don't think you're putting it. She was gentle with it. 610 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: She's like, well, should you be shouldn't you be doing? 611 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: I noticed you're not. You're not doing this kind of thing. 612 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: She would always kind of be real with me, and 613 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm doing enough for but but 614 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 4: again I was male arrogance and and the whole thing, 615 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: and I'm the man and the family. I know what, 616 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: I know what I'm doing. She knew she was watching. 617 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 4: But finally finally she saw how broke I was after 618 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: that forty nine or try out. 619 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: She was like, hey, you dreamed you was you was 620 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: mentally defeated. 621 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: I was done, dude. Like when I say done, I 622 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: think she just saw it in my face, like everything 623 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 4: in it was like you know, and this is the 624 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 4: this is the thing where most players hit, you know, 625 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: no matter how high God, when it's time to go, 626 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: very few get some kind of parade, you know what 627 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: I mean. You get kind of kicked out. You kind 628 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: of like all of a sudden, you just disappeared. 629 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: The getting in is easy. 630 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: It's to getting out that's hard. It's hard, man, especially 631 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: when you don't leave on your terms. And how many 632 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: ever get to do that? 633 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: No, Tom Brady, but Barry Sanders did. That's where everybody 634 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 4: looked at him like what this man just decided on 635 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: his own right. But usually it's injury. Usually it's cut. 636 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: Usually they want one more shot and they're not getting 637 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: it right. Man. That's some pain. 638 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: Man. 639 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: So if the NFL asks, you'll say with Terry, I mean, 640 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: you played in the league, what is some of the 641 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: advice And we got guys and we need you to 642 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: talk to some of these rookies that's coming in about 643 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: transitioning from the game once it's over. What advice would 644 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: you give some some of the younger players, knowing that 645 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna come a time and I know you think 646 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: because you're twenty one and twenty. 647 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: Two, you're gonna play fifty years, but you're not. 648 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: What is some of the advice you would give them 649 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: about transitioning into a sex a post career. 650 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: The biggest thing is humility. Humility. It's really really hard. 651 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: And this is one thing. Sweeping floor has humbled me, 652 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: like there's a breaking that you have to go through, 653 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 4: because there was a long time I wouldn't do that right, 654 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, man, you know, I'm too 655 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: proud for this, and what would everybody think if they 656 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 4: see me sweeping the floor? 657 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: Right? 658 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: And my wife was like, they don't know you, nobody 659 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: knows you. It wasn't that popular, you know. But in 660 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: my head, right, I'm this. Everybody knows me as this, 661 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 4: and man, man, man, let me tell you something, Shannon. Now, 662 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: I've been I've been doing Hollywood for twenty and something 663 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: my years, and what blew me away is perspective. And 664 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: this is why I want to tell any young person 665 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: coming up perspective. First of all, I've been to Korea. 666 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: Korea don't care nothing about the NFL. They don't know 667 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: anything about it. Right, I was looking for scores, couldn't 668 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: find them. I went to South Africa looking for the 669 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: NFL scores. They're like, what are you talking about? It's 670 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: rugby over here. Bro I said, okay, I've been Hong Kong. 671 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 4: I don't care about no NFL. Then I'll go to 672 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: Europe and I'm going, okay, well, how about it. 673 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: What do y'all think about it? 674 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 4: Here? They're like, it's okay, that's interesting. Then I realized, 675 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 4: wait a minute, in my head, it's this gigantic beast 676 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: and it is in America, right, But I said, the 677 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: rest of the world. When I went to South America, 678 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: they don't care. I went to Brazil, they don't care 679 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 4: about the NFL, and I said, dude, you don't understand. 680 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 4: It's a big, big world, and there's so much out 681 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: there that's for you, and you have to find it. 682 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: You have to find it. And this is what I 683 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: would tell every young man, is that there's something bigger 684 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: than the league for you, right. You have to find it. Though, 685 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: But that's a hard belief when every it's like when 686 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: everything and you spent your whole life twenty four seven 687 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: being this thing and you have to flip it and 688 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 4: all of a sudden it means nothing anymore. That's where 689 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: the humility comes in. 690 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think so many people find the NFL 691 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: is who they are, and because it's who they are 692 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: and not what they did. Yes, it's hard to separate 693 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: because you think, no, you're not. This is why again, man, 694 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: this is why I'm so proud of you. I'm proud 695 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: of Mike Strayan. 696 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: I'm proud of players that have come out and have 697 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 4: literally realized, wait a minute, I'm bigger than this. Wait, man, 698 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: you bigger than the game. That's what I got. I 699 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: have to tell this to every NFL player. You are 700 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: bigger than the game. The game needs you, not the 701 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: other way around. But you have this belief because your 702 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: mind gets played with a lot. 703 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 2: Right. 704 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: It's very I mean, the manipulation is real. 705 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: You know. 706 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 4: That's one of the things that makes you get an 707 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: NFL people. Most of these players been manipulated. It's his college, 708 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 709 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: So you trained in. 710 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: That and so when you wake up and realize, wait, 711 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: it's a whole nother world out here. 712 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: But a lot of cats don't believe it. 713 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: And this is where I've seen cats commit suicide by overeating, 714 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: or suicide by putting a gun on himself, or suicide 715 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 4: by by drinking suicide by whatever. 716 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean that have the hardest times. 717 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: Because they think the whole world is thinking of them 718 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 4: as this, and if you just switch it and turn 719 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: it around, it's a new future. 720 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: I think it was a lot easier than what you 721 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: gave yourself credit for because football wasn't what you liked it. 722 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: You didn't love it. 723 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: When you get other people that they love it and 724 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: everything that they are, their entire fiber is NFL football 725 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: or being an NFL player, and when that doesn't work out, 726 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: they don't see the world. 727 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 4: That's their world and everything that comes along with it. 728 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: You're right, I mean that the problem. The biggest advantage 729 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 4: I had was not being a superstar. That was my advantage. 730 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd be here if I had 731 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 4: been a superstar, right, if I had seen the level 732 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 4: that juniors say I had seen, right, I don't know, man, 733 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 4: I really don't. I could honestly say that that would 734 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 4: have been such a hard fall that I don't know 735 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 4: if I would have been able to survive it. 736 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: Get in on the action with Draftking Sportsbook, an official 737 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of the NBA. New customers who depot 738 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: at five dollars or more can get no sweat bet 739 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: up to one thousand dollars back in bonus bet. Download 740 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: the Draft King Sportsbook app now and use cold Shannon. 741 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: New customers can get a no sweat bet up to 742 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars if your first bet loses only on 743 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: Draft King Sportsbook with Cold Shannon. 744 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: The Crown is yours. 745 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 5: Gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler or in West Virginia, 746 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 5: visit one eight hundred gambler dot net. In New York, 747 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 5: call eight seven seven eight hope and wire text hope 748 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: and y four six seven three six ' nine. In Connecticut, 749 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: help is available for problem gambling Call eight eight eight 750 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 5: seven eight nine seven seven seven seven or visit CCPG 751 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 5: dot org. Please play responsibly on behalf of Boothill Casino 752 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 5: when resorting Kansas twenty one and over age varies by jurisdiction, 753 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 5: Void and Ontario one. No sweat bet per new customer 754 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 5: issued as one bonus bet based on the amount of 755 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 5: initial losing bet. Bonus bets expire one hundred and sixty 756 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: eight hours after issue. Ince See dkang dot com slash 757 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 5: promos for deposit wagering and eligibility restrictions terms and responsible 758 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 5: gaming resources. 759 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: You mentioned that you told your wife like. 760 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: You didn't want to do some of these jobs because 761 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: what if somebody sees me and I hear that a lot, 762 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: and you hear people like, man, I ain't working on mcdonald' 763 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: such so they might see me. I don'ly sweep in there. 764 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: It feels like there is beneath them, yep, when sometimes 765 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: you know a they need all walks to do something. 766 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: Before you got to another level, which you said, Okay, 767 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: I gotta sweep this floor, but I'm not going to 768 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: sweep this floor forever. It's just a means to an end, right, 769 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: get me in the door, and I'm gonna do something else. 770 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: So you're on the set of Friday as a security guards, right. 771 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: You had mentioned that you had never ever really told 772 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: anybody that you want to do acting. You wanted to 773 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: be behind the camera, not in front of the camera. 774 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: And so when did your big break come? When did 775 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: you get an opportunity? 776 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: You know, it was amazing. 777 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 4: I went I have friends in the business because doing security, 778 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 4: I knew a lot of location managers, right, and the 779 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: location managers would hire the security and this location manager 780 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 4: became a friend of mine. He said, hey, man, Denzel's 781 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: shooting down here in the jungle. It's a movie called 782 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 4: Training Day. You want to come down and take a look. 783 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 4: I was like, I get to watch this Zell do 784 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 4: his thing. I'm like, yeah, man, I'm coming. I'm walking, 785 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 4: I said, winn Is and he said, man, come on, 786 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 4: they stay shooting all night. So he said, come, you 787 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 4: gotta come late, like ten o'clock, about eleven o'clock they 788 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: will start the filming and the whole thing. And so 789 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 4: I'm down there in the jungle, man, and I'm sitting 790 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: there going what I'm watching this Denzel, the car, the 791 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 4: whole that called the Sack, the whole deal. 792 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: And I'm going, ooh, this is hot. 793 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 4: And I'm watching the Zel get ready. 794 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: He got the change on, he got the dow rag. 795 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: The whole thing. Is that the King kNs. 796 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 4: This is the King cone bro. Now let me tell 797 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 4: you this and this is gotta understand how magical this was. Man. 798 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: Antoine Fouqua, the director, saw me standing there and again by. 799 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: This time, I remember I went back. 800 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 4: I went back to the gym, because I had been 801 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: going back to the gym about a year or so. 802 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 4: I was kind of still in shape, right. He said, hey, man, 803 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 4: you want to be in the scene. I said, so yeah. 804 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 4: He said, hey man, just take your shut up. You 805 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: got see your tank top. I'll put you in the scene. 806 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 2: Bruh. 807 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, never acted. You're talking about no actent. I 808 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 4: stand there, I'm looking. I'm like, okay, okay, And I 809 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 4: just got that NFL man like like you know you're 810 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 4: about to come in and you go, you're facing off 811 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 4: against somebody and I and I said, just don't say 812 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 4: nothing and just mad doggie, I said, don't tell me. 813 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: And that was it. And so Vinzel's doing all this 814 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: out and you see, I'm just standing there the whole 815 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 4: time like this nigga yea and dude, it changed my 816 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 4: life when you say like that went to the Oscar, bro, 817 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 4: Like it was me and Denzel. When they showed that 818 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 4: scene on the Hoscar. My mother was like, you're in 819 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: the oscar. He said, well, I did't. I'm not not 820 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: at the Oscars, but I'm in this scene. And I 821 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 4: was like, I was hooked, like when I say hook 822 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: because all I had to do was just because remember, man, 823 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: I'm on the NFL field. 824 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: In my mind is already going on right. 825 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: I was like, this is what I always want to do. 826 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,479 Speaker 4: I said, Man, now I'm in my element. Don't mess 827 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 4: this up, right, bruh watching this And then I got 828 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 4: a chance to look at the script and his script 829 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 4: was on the car and he had written the wages 830 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: of sin his death on the top of the script. 831 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 4: I was like, he's stunning. That's how he prepared. And 832 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 4: I was like, that's that's that level I have to 833 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: get to. That's what And all of a sudden, there 834 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: it was the acting thing and what happened was ce 835 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 4: remembered me. He was like, yo, man, you the security 836 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: guard because everybody loved training day. When training day came out, 837 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 4: he said, man, we're doing another Friday. I got a 838 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 4: call from the location man today said hey, man, c 839 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 4: people want to see you. 840 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: I went in. 841 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 4: It was me Cat William sitting next to each other 842 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 4: in a little bitting room and he was like, man, 843 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 4: come on in. We got this because Tiny Listen didn't 844 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 4: want to do My good friend, God bless her soul, 845 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 4: Tiny Listen didn't want to do the third one, and 846 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: they said we got a new character, a guy named Damon. 847 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 4: And the whole day I was like and see. You 848 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: got to understand too. I had nothing to lose. Like 849 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: when I see nothing to lose. I came in there 850 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 4: like Craig and day day, just the niggas I want 851 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 4: to see, you know, I had nothing. I went back 852 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 4: to Flint on them. I was like, this is where 853 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 4: I came to. These cats I knew. And I came 854 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 4: in there man and offa cube. Everybody's like oh, and 855 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 4: then Cat came in and just the audition and they 856 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 4: said you in, you in, and Friday after next I listen. 857 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 4: I saw Ce probably about a month ago, and I 858 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: walked up to him. Man, I said, dude, thank you, 859 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 4: thank you. So you have no idea how many careers 860 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 4: you started just by giving us that shot. A lot 861 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: of people never ever really get props. What props is, 862 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 4: do you know? Because they're like, well I didn't get 863 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 4: that much money, but dude, that was my start. Listen. 864 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 4: I was just going, man, I was just thankful. I 865 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 4: was walking around and listen. And what was so crazy 866 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 4: is me and Cat. Kat was homeless at the time, 867 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: so Kat was living in his trailer and me and 868 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: Cat said, hey, man, and I remember talking to Cat. 869 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 4: I said Kat, I said, we never get another opportunity. 870 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: We got to make sure they remember us, I said, 871 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 4: because we did two new cats in this whole thing. 872 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 4: They know everybody else, right, I said, but it's me 873 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 4: and you, And remember, man, I was not gonna let 874 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 4: what happened in my football career happened to my entertainment career. 875 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: Man, I'm listening that you tell the story Tea, and 876 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: the way you're telling the story. Football never gave you 877 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: the high that what you got by just doing. 878 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 4: That sacly, I knew I was in my destiny when 879 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 4: I say this is what I'm saying, I found my destiny. 880 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 2: I was gone. 881 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 4: People. When people see that scene and Friday after next, 882 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 4: look you turned the sound down. They ain't a comedy, right. 883 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 4: We was crying, right, we were deep. 884 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: They were so in it. He was crying. I was crying. 885 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 2: People were sitting. 886 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 4: Behind the monitors, like, what are we looking at right now? 887 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 4: Because I was so gone in and I said, this 888 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 4: is where And then it was so wild because I 889 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 4: didn't even want money anymore. I said, I don't want 890 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 4: that feeling again. You know you know what I mean. 891 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 4: It's too because you could talk about athletes and money 892 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 4: and all that stuff. 893 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: But there's a point when I'm. 894 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 4: Sure, when you just catching them doing everything right, you 895 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: want to you want to chase that again. They call 896 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 4: it the zone, they call it. It's just blow whatever 897 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 4: that is. And let me tell you you don't want 898 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 4: to hit that blow again. When I was doing White Chicks, 899 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 4: that movie White Chicks, everything I said, just blow Friday up. 900 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 2: Next White Chicks came off of. 901 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 4: It came after that because again you're talking about the 902 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 4: whole the black Hollywood is very small, and they saw 903 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 4: it once Friday after next hit. People were like this dude, 904 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 4: And so what was so great is Keenan Ivy Williams 905 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 4: was like, hey man, we gotta get this dude to shot, 906 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 4: you know what I. 907 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: Mean, because they're like, man, we want some of that 908 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: on us. 909 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: And it kept on. All My business shinning in this 910 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 4: town has been repeat business. I mean, the reason I 911 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 4: was with all these sidling movies, Adam Sandler called me. 912 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 4: But the thing is when I did Longest Yard, which 913 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 4: was my revenge on the NFL, me and Michael Irvin, 914 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 4: the whole movie, I was like, this is the one 915 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 4: everybody gonna remember, Like good God, Like. 916 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 2: Who hits that? 917 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 4: Right? 918 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 2: You know what? 919 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 4: I mean, and I remember Chris Rock was like, hey, man, 920 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 4: he's on the movie Longest y'all. He said, dude, you're 921 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: killing I got something for you. I said, what is it. 922 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 4: He said, I don't worrybody, I got something for you. 923 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 4: I go home. The script for Everybody Hates Chris. It's 924 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 4: literally on my doorstep. I open that up. He's like, 925 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: I want you to play my dad because he saw 926 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 4: me and my wife and my two kids out there 927 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 4: all in Santa Fe, New Mexico when he was filming 928 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 4: The Longest Yard. 929 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 2: He was watching. 930 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 4: And that's the thing another people, you gotta remember, everybody 931 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 4: is watching it. Everybody is watching. And so then I 932 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 4: played Chris's dad, and everybody hate Chris for four years straight. 933 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 4: This man, When I look at my life, man, I 934 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 4: just think, I just thank God for every every opportunity. 935 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 4: And now this is another thing because I now reached 936 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,800 Speaker 4: the point because I played with all these guys and 937 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 4: they're gone. Now I'm losing actors. Man Andre Bauer passed 938 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: away last week, and he took me under his wing. 939 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: Man. 940 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 4: You talk about one of the best actors of our generation. 941 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Juliard Trade, absolutely incredible. Emmy Award winning dramatic 942 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 4: beast Brooklyn nine nine, who was able to come and 943 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: flip it to a comedy like that. And I was like, man, 944 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 4: what is the secret? And he never this is nothing. 945 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 4: He was. He was with like a super all pro 946 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 4: who could have looked down on all of us but 947 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 4: decided he was just gonna pull us all up with 948 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,439 Speaker 4: him sixty one years old. He was like my big brother. 949 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 4: I look at guys that are dying. When I look 950 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 4: at Michael Clark, Duncan's gone, tiny listen gone, last Reddit gone, 951 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 4: and I'm like Dadwick Bozeman gone. We did a movie 952 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 4: draft day together, okay, And I'm going, man, you don't 953 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 4: have forever, you don't. 954 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: You gotta go for it. 955 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 4: You got to get what you got, what you are 956 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 4: coming to get now, and you can't waste time. You 957 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 4: can't treat it like well, whatever tomorrow. Because I've seen 958 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 4: it in the NFL and everybody thought, and this is 959 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 4: the thing. Everybody has to determine. Certain people that already won, 960 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 4: like I won life. 961 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 2: You won. 962 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 4: You know, people say, hey won the Internet. 963 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: Whatever. 964 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 4: It ain't never over it. It's never how you start, 965 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 4: it's how you finish. And let me tell you when 966 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 4: I'm done, and I'll be honest with you, man, I'm 967 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 4: just getting started. I truly, truly feel I have the 968 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 4: same energy that I have when I first started. I'm 969 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: really thankful to be sitting here with you right now, 970 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 4: but I admire you for it. But just your transition, 971 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And the energy that you bring. 972 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 4: Your passion is palpable, and I'm the same way. 973 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent passion. That's all I am. 974 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 975 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 2: I don't know no other way. I have no other way. 976 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 4: I'll do everything like I'm getting a million dollars. 977 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: When when you sat down for the for the you 978 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: sat down for the audition to read with Cat, did 979 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: you know Cat pride of that? 980 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: Nope, not at all. And you guys became pretty cool. 981 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 4: At We became amazing friends. And what's so crazy? I 982 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 4: used to watch him because I was because we you know, 983 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 4: remember a movie, when you shoot a movie, then you 984 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 4: got to wait a year and a half for it 985 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 4: to come out correct, So you just wait. Like people, 986 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: You're like, man, well I got this thing coming. They're like, yeah, right, whatever, 987 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 4: And you know what's so funny? After Friday, the next 988 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 4: I had to go back to a security. I had 989 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 4: to go back because I didn't have nothing else to 990 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 4: turn to. But I knew it was coming, and well 991 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 4: it was so crazy. I was doing commercials and different things, 992 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 4: but I would go watch Kat Williams at the Hollywood 993 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 4: Park Casino. He had his own room and this man 994 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 4: was the funniest man I ever seen, which was crazy. 995 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 4: And then I'll never forget when he starts selling out 996 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 4: the Universal Amphitheater and watching him blow up. This is 997 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 4: another thing too, to watch people all. It's funny because 998 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 4: I see kids that's been on set and now they're 999 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 4: superstars now, you know, like Tyler J's Williams is now superstars. 1000 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 4: You know, I've watched people here. 1001 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 2: This is the thing. You never never know what's going 1002 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 2: to happen. You know, you look at things and you go, 1003 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 2: oh my god, this man was. 1004 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 4: Listen. One great example we were at the BT Awards 1005 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 4: and I saw this little kid walking around with a 1006 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 4: little hat all and I was like, hey, hey, I 1007 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 4: got his mixtape. I said, Kendrick Kendrick. He said, no, 1008 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: I am, it's Kendrick lamar Bro. I said, man, your mixtape, dude, 1009 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 4: section eighty it is amazing. I said, you are the 1010 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 4: next I said, Rebecca, it's a kid. This is Kendrick 1011 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 4: she was. 1012 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: He was like, you know who I am? 1013 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 2: I said, I said, I love you. I said, I 1014 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 2: think you are going to be the future. 1015 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 4: And what's so crazy is that he called me a 1016 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 4: few years later, ended up doing a video with him 1017 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 4: because he said, remember when you told me you knew 1018 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 4: who I was. I remember this and told me I 1019 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 4: was going to be I was gonna be doing something great. 1020 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 4: Look at this man, Look you tell me he's not 1021 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 4: the best in the world right now. 1022 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 2: And I'm so proud. 1023 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 4: And the thing is too man, there's another thing I 1024 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 4: had to learn, and that the NFL taught me that 1025 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 4: I had to unlearned competing. I decided to never compete 1026 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 4: with people. This was my problem because what if they 1027 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 4: call it the center of comparison. When I'm looking at 1028 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 4: what you got and comparing what I got, it's always 1029 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 4: going to be a problem. 1030 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, always, because you always gonna come up short. 1031 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 4: Yes, somebody always got more and then somebody always got less. 1032 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 4: But you always want more, right, And I realized, man, 1033 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 4: that creativity was the exact opposite competition. If I'm being creative, 1034 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 4: I'm not competing. So I decided, you know what, because 1035 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 4: everybody was like, hey man, you gotta you know when 1036 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 4: you gotta be like tiny, you gotta be this, you gotta. 1037 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 4: But I was like, no, no, no, no, no no, 1038 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be me. I'm gonna be me. And I 1039 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but you kind of weird. I said, yeah, 1040 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 4: I am. That's what made me you neque I am 1041 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 4: all right. Listen. First of all, you can't even it 1042 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 4: got to the point where we read scripts now to 1043 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 4: that we want a Terry Crews type because they know 1044 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 4: that's that's just me, right. And I decided by just 1045 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 4: being creative, that was my ticket out of that world 1046 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 4: of competition. Because this is the thing, man, The league 1047 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 4: is always it's like, hey man, you versus so and so, 1048 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 4: First of all, you got to fight the people in 1049 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 4: your own locker room first before you even go up 1050 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 4: against another team, you know. 1051 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 2: What I mean. 1052 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 4: And then you always being judged like, well you missed 1053 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 4: a step and did you miss that? 1054 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 2: But he didn't? Right. 1055 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 4: The coaches would never they will always tell you what 1056 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 4: you messed up on, right, And then being black, we 1057 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 4: would go into the locker room and if you hurt, 1058 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,479 Speaker 4: they like, mmm, you act like you don't want to play. 1059 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 2: I'll say, hey, man, first of all, the white. 1060 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 4: Kids get it hurt and they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, 1061 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 4: he's hurt. Right. I've never ever treated they never ever 1062 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 4: treated any black guy I knew in the locker room 1063 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 4: like he was really hurt. Wow, Like he was trying 1064 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 4: to cut out on the game. 1065 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: So, in other words, you said, I gotta unlearned because 1066 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a jungle mentality, because someone 1067 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: is literally trying to take food up your table, someone 1068 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: is trying to take a roof from over your kid 1069 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: in your family head to make sure they have one. 1070 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: But once you got into the entertainment space, like I'm 1071 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: not competing against him. 1072 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, what can I do with my leabe? 1073 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 4: First of all, I didn't go to school that right, 1074 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 4: I didn't go to You're talking to a dude who 1075 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 4: ain't supposed to be here. Everything I'm getting ain't I 1076 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 4: ain't supposed to have, So I'm already behind, you know 1077 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 4: what I mean. But then I realized, wait a minute, 1078 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 4: if I just bring what I bring, I'm ahead, you 1079 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean. If I can if I bring 1080 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 4: what only I bring to a project, because you can't 1081 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 4: do what I do, you know what I mean? And 1082 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 4: this is one thing that the magic and this is 1083 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 4: what I want to tell every young man is trying 1084 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,800 Speaker 4: to transition out. That's the way it works for everything. 1085 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 4: That you have something that no one else has, but 1086 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 4: it's shifting you to find it. You got to find it, 1087 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 4: and don't You don't find it by comparing yourself to 1088 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 4: everybody else or whatever. You find it by finding out 1089 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 4: what you want to do. And this is when I 1090 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 4: had to make the hard realization that man, maybe football 1091 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 4: wasn't It wasn't it just it wasn't for me. But 1092 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 4: it got me to where I am and I'm very 1093 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 4: thankful for it. Let me tell you I love the game. 1094 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 4: In fact, I don't even have a team. 1095 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 2: I just love the players. 1096 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 4: Right sitting here with players talk about you know what 1097 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,919 Speaker 4: we came through. It feels like a fraternity, man, feels 1098 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 4: like something we can we can therapize each other, you 1099 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 4: know what I mean, because we all know it, we 1100 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,240 Speaker 4: all seen it, and we all played those games together. 1101 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 4: I mean I was there when they was like, ain't 1102 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 4: no cte sit out? You're just weak? Right, man, my 1103 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 4: head hurt, you know what I mean. I'm seeing double 1104 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 4: and they're like, man, look, you're just weak. I was 1105 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 4: there when it was telling everybody it wasn't it wasn't real, right, 1106 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. 1107 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this is real, man, this is real. Te. Obviously, 1108 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: when you first starting out, you don't make a lot 1109 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: of money. 1110 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: How do you get passed because everybody thinks that you 1111 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: in the movie you make a million dollars or you 1112 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: make five million dollars, and it's in the roles. 1113 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you're first starting out. It ain't no big payday, 1114 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,000 Speaker 2: not at all, not at all. 1115 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 4: You you get here's your five hundred dollars, thank you 1116 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 4: very much. But that's the thing. I never did it 1117 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 4: for the money. Remember I told you when we were 1118 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 4: doing that Friday after next. I was chasing that feeling 1119 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 4: of doing something, of going so deep and doing something 1120 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 4: so well. It was like when I was sweeping those floors, 1121 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Once you start that, you 1122 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,399 Speaker 4: chase it and you can realize that you I could 1123 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 4: be excellent at night, and I chased excellence and what 1124 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 4: I found is that the money will come right. That's 1125 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 4: what's so crazy. But what problem is is when you 1126 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 4: chase money if all of a sudden, because this is 1127 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 4: the thing, and this is what blew me away. I 1128 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 4: started to take job off my passion and what I 1129 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 4: saw would further what I was trying to do. And 1130 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 4: I wouldn't take jobs by the money, and a lot 1131 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 4: of I turned down a lot of money making jobs 1132 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 4: that was terrible, but there was a lot of things 1133 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 4: that paid a little bit amount of money. But Man 1134 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 4: took me to a whole other level. And by doing that, 1135 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 4: by not chasing the money, it's like it comes man, 1136 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:09,760 Speaker 4: the passion will pay. 1137 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: For itself, not white chick. That's look. Damien was in 1138 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: Next Friday. The Friday After Next was unbelievable. But it 1139 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: was that movie where Terry Crews all of a sudden 1140 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: becomes a household name. 1141 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 4: Keenan Ivory WANs, Marlon Wands, Sean WANs. I owe him 1142 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 4: a debt forever. That was one of the best experiences 1143 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 4: I ever had in my life. When I say, from 1144 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 4: beginning to end, hanging with them dudes, the freedom that 1145 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 4: that family had, it was like being into jacksones Bro. 1146 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like because you listen I 1147 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,400 Speaker 4: washed in living color when I was I remember in 1148 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 4: college all the way up and it in living color. 1149 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 4: And oh the Keenan every ways is a legend yep, 1150 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 4: And I'm near He's like, hey, Terry hit Man, do 1151 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 4: whatever you want. Man, you killing this, do this. I 1152 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: was like, what I could do it? 1153 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 2: Like everything I said, so I could just. 1154 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 4: And man, when you hit that level of freedom and 1155 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 4: the ways, brother, this is the thing about comedy is 1156 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: that it opens up like there was the phrase they 1157 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 4: used to the phrase they say a lot of times 1158 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 4: is that you know, there's the answers. Never know the 1159 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 4: answers yes in comedy. So if you you've got a 1160 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 4: question and answers yes, I mean you go. You just 1161 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 4: keep taking it, taking it, taking it. And that's what 1162 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 4: we did. And brouh. I had no idea by the 1163 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 4: time we got done. And I remember that premiere and 1164 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 4: the producer looked at me and he said, hey, man, 1165 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: your life will never ever be the same. 1166 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 2: You got understand me. 1167 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 4: I spent. I was, like I said, I learned my 1168 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 4: lessons from football. I remember being in that room singing 1169 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 4: that song probably ten times by myself, by myself, so 1170 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 4: that when I got on this that that was one tape. 1171 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: I was so ready. 1172 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 4: I had the head moves there, I had everything, and 1173 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 4: people were like, we never seen nothing because you gotta 1174 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 4: understand too. And the rules in comedy at the time 1175 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,919 Speaker 4: were Muscle's never funny, right, that's not funny. You gotta 1176 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 4: be brewed. You gotta be you know. And everybody was 1177 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 4: trying to tell me to be take karate lessons because 1178 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 4: you had to be you're gonna be an action star. 1179 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 4: I was like, no, nah, I'm gonna be funny. I 1180 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 4: think I can make people lie. And they were like, 1181 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 4: but muscle's not funny. You too big. You gotta get fat, 1182 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 4: you gotta get chubby. 1183 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: I was like, no, nope, I'm gonna do everything I'm doing. 1184 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 4: And I remember resisting what everybody was saying, and people 1185 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 4: were looking at me like I've never seen a funny 1186 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 4: big dude before. 1187 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And it changed the game. 1188 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: Did you know when you're shooting that movie and when 1189 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: you rapp, did you realize that we got a classic. 1190 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 2: We gotta hit. We have something that's gonna stand. No, 1191 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 2: it's purt jokes. 1192 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 4: No, I'm sitting there, I'm like, man, if the kids 1193 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 4: laugh I'm like, hey, great, no, no, but now people 1194 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 4: are coming back like that's quiet, man. But my daughter, okay, 1195 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 4: she was a baby. My daughter is now twenty years 1196 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 4: old in college. She goes to college in San Diego. 1197 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 4: They sat over this summer, sitting there watching White Chicks. 1198 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 4: She didn't say any place. She's like, that's my dad. 1199 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 4: She was a baby when it was when it was 1200 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 4: came out. She's in college, like, and all her friends 1201 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 4: are sitting on the rooftop watching White Chicks, the whole 1202 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 4: school cracking up. I'm like, we didn't know, right, we 1203 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 4: didn't know. 1204 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: But that's the power of going all out. 1205 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 4: Because it outlast year. You know what I'm saying, the 1206 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 4: legacy outlast year. 1207 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 2: Go all out. 1208 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 4: You do not get another shot, you see what I mean, like, 1209 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 4: really really enjoyed, don't Because this is the thing too. 1210 00:58:59,600 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: Man. 1211 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 4: I used to be a complainer. Man, I used to 1212 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 4: be one of them, Oh well if it ain't perfect. 1213 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 4: And then and man, that's the thing. Well I started 1214 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,480 Speaker 4: to realize, Man, what opportunities we have, we gotta take 1215 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 4: it right. And I'm just so thankful right now. I'm 1216 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 4: just like, and you know, just to go on to 1217 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 4: have this kind of career. Now. I got to even 1218 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 4: flip it to AGT because I told my agent and manager, 1219 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 4: I said, look, use me as a guinea pig. I 1220 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 4: said where, I said, where you would typically see me. 1221 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 4: Don't give me those roles, give me the roles that 1222 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 4: you would say. There's no way they were going to 1223 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 4: hire him, and I said that's what I want. And 1224 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 4: they were like, Terry, that's a hard road. I said, yep, 1225 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the hard road and I'll never forget. 1226 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 4: There was Who Wants to be a Millionaire, which was 1227 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 4: a daytime version that Wants to be a Millionaire, and 1228 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 4: Cedric the entertainer didn't want to come back. He was 1229 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 4: like moving on and they said, Terry, they're talking. This 1230 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 4: is open. I said, give it to me. I said, 1231 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 4: let me go in, let me audition, let me take it. 1232 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 4: Because I knew if I learned how to host, if 1233 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 4: I learned how to get in front of that camera 1234 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 4: and show my personality and talk to people and interview people, 1235 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 4: that could be a change. That's a whole other revenue stream, 1236 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 4: that's a whole other level of passion. 1237 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 2: Right, But it was horrible. 1238 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 4: Listen, who wants to be a millionaire the daytime version. 1239 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 4: Nobody watching it. 1240 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 1241 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 4: I did three hundred and sixty episodes of that while 1242 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 4: I was doing Brooklyn nine nine and people were like, 1243 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 4: why are you doing this? I will go back on set. 1244 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 4: They were like, dude, it's no one watching this. It's crazy. 1245 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 4: Then I did another show called World's Funniest Fails and 1246 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 4: it was like terrible and nobody was watching it. 1247 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, I was on Fox. 1248 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 4: It was one of the silly shows. And then I 1249 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 4: host the TV Land Awards. I was like, but I 1250 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,920 Speaker 4: want to be a host, dude. All of a sudden 1251 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 4: they got to spin off for AGT and I get 1252 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 4: my shot. I said, it's the biggest talent show in 1253 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 4: the world, bro, and I've been doing it strong, going 1254 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 4: on six years. All the iterations, we got a brand 1255 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 4: new Fantasy League coming out, we got the regular agt's. 1256 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,520 Speaker 2: Number one show the summer. 1257 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 4: And wait, and you gotta understanding, I ain't a host. 1258 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 4: I'm not that guy. I came in this thing, but 1259 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 4: I said, God, give me the strength to learn new 1260 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 4: skills and let me stay open, and I will stay 1261 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 4: humble and I will learn this thing. 1262 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It was a lot. 1263 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 3: Man. 1264 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 4: But I look at I take thank God right now 1265 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 4: because now I can go two or three ways. 1266 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you a white chicken. Some of the lines, 1267 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: did you did you just come up with these lines 1268 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: of what they written? It's like, once you go black, 1269 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: you're going to need a wheelchair. 1270 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 2: I was written. So how much leeweight did they give you? 1271 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 1272 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 2: No, it was a lot. 1273 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 4: It was. I mean, this is the thing, like the dancing, 1274 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 4: they probably let you do you Oh yeah, that was 1275 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 4: all me. That was all the dancing. But you understand 1276 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff was It was like the 1277 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 4: stuff between me and Marlin, and it was like, oh, 1278 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: a little lady, you sure can't put it away. I 1279 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 4: mean that's me. It's stuff with but they let you 1280 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 4: do it. And then the editor comes in. Don't worry 1281 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 4: about the rest later. But dude, we were coming up 1282 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 4: with stuff off the head. They were coming up with stuff. 1283 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 4: They had no idea, and we had no idea, but 1284 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 4: we just knew. We said, man, we had such a 1285 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 4: blast doing that movie. Same thing with longest yard guys 1286 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 4: that you had the wrestlers, you had the comedians, you 1287 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 4: had the football players. I mean, you had all that together, 1288 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 4: and you had a classic movie you know where I 1289 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 4: grew up watching the Burt Reynolds version, the first one, 1290 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 4: and you're like, man, this is one reason why I 1291 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 4: even tried playing football in the first place. You're like, 1292 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 4: and dude, that's why. To me, all I can say 1293 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 4: is that I've been given more opportunities. I must rephrase 1294 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 4: that I seized more opportunities, because it's the thing given 1295 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 4: people give you charity, opportunities aren't really giving right. You 1296 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 4: seize them right, you grab it. It's like hunting. It's 1297 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,960 Speaker 4: like sitting in the forest and there litting there watching it. 1298 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 4: All of a sudden you see something that you want 1299 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 4: and you see it and if you go up to it, 1300 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,840 Speaker 4: it was run away. But you gotta grab it. And 1301 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 4: I remember just grabbing every little scene, every little thing. 1302 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 4: I'll never forget getting the opportunity on expendables. Here, I 1303 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 4: am man Sebasti stallone all those sports and anger. Bruce 1304 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:38,000 Speaker 4: willis me. And wait, I wasn't the first pick. It 1305 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,320 Speaker 4: was supposed to be Wesley Snipes, but Wesley had got 1306 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 4: down on all that tack stuff, and then they went 1307 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 4: to Forest Whittaker and he couldn't do it. And then 1308 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 4: they said, well we got this guy, Terry Crews. I 1309 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 4: was like, I'm here, yo, I take it. Hey, man, 1310 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 4: I didn't look at that it's down. Most of my 1311 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 4: stuff has been like man, somebody dropped out. No, no, no, 1312 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 4: I'm taking it. Seen and dude, here I am an 1313 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 4: expendablest movie. And they gave slide give me that tunnel scene. 1314 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 4: I'm blowing people away boom boom boom, boom boom, coming 1315 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 4: through that tunnel and people flipping them up there in 1316 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 4: the theater, jumping up, and I'm going, who gets this? 1317 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 4: Who gets this? Like to make people laughs, to make 1318 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 4: people jump, to make people I've been giving more moments 1319 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 4: than probably any other actor that I know I work with. 1320 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 4: It's cast been on TV twenty years. Don't get those 1321 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 4: kind of moments, you know what I mean? And that's 1322 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:36,439 Speaker 4: where I'm like, man, and this is where again, though, 1323 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 4: had I not been through all that stuff in the NFL, 1324 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have learned what it took. You understand what 1325 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:43,959 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 1326 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 1327 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 4: I probably would have got complacent, probably would have been like, yeah, 1328 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,080 Speaker 4: it's automatic, and I've seen people get there like yeah, 1329 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 4: you know I should have had that yesterday, but I 1330 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,800 Speaker 4: never feel that way. Man. I'm always especially now that 1331 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 4: we're losing people, especially now. 1332 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1333 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 1: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 1334 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just 1335 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: simply go back to Club Shashay profile and I'll see 1336 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: you there