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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. I saw what I saw. When I

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Speaker 1: saw it, I knew what it was. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: I saw the left side fuel trim go from minus

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Speaker 2: Are you sure that I saw what I saw when

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Speaker 2: I saw it?

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Speaker 1: That car Doctor, the oil filter housing is independent up

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Speaker 1: the engine.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he was talking about, you bit.

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Speaker 1: Right, But isn't this a screw on filter that it

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Speaker 1: screws onto the side of the engine. This is an

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Speaker 1: external oil filter that threads onto a nipple coming out

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Speaker 1: of the side of the engine.

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Speaker 2: I saw what I saw when.

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Speaker 3: I saw Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian,

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Speaker 3: the Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where

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Speaker 3: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion

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Speaker 3: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors.

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Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now.

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Speaker 2: I've had this brain for thirty years and it hasn't

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Speaker 2: worked right yet.

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Speaker 4: Running.

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Speaker 1: I know what I saw when I saw it, and

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of week I had. Hello, that was

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Speaker 1: your week. We fixed cars all week, as we normally

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Speaker 1: do at the shop, and we fixed more than a

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Speaker 1: few this week. It was. It was a very interesting week,

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Speaker 1: to say the least. And I know I say that

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Speaker 1: a lot, but every week seems like it's more and

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Speaker 1: more interesting, involved, different, crazy, calm, peaceful. It works. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a crescendo, there's an orchestration to a repair shop,

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Speaker 1: and it depends on the flow. Sometimes the week peaks

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Speaker 1: in the middle, just like a song. Sometimes it starts

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Speaker 1: a Monday and Tuesday, and as long as it ends

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Speaker 1: quietly on Friday, I know, notes have been hit. It's okay.

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Speaker 1: Danny was out Monday and Tuesday. It was in Colorado

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Speaker 1: at a wedding and he was traveling, taking some vacation time.

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Speaker 1: So the old man was alone in the shop, and

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Speaker 1: you know, nose down, feed on the ground, Get cars done,

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Speaker 1: you know, as I always say. And I did, and

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Speaker 1: I got all my cars done, and I picked my

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Speaker 1: way through a couple of problem children. One of them

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Speaker 1: was the Camaro. The Camaro came back to the twenty

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Speaker 1: don't know if I told you this story. It's up

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Speaker 1: little bit there. Twenty sixteen SS Camara with a six

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Speaker 1: so we put a starter in it, and I show

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Speaker 1: you the video up there. We had to take the

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Speaker 1: We took the heater hoses out because the heater hoses

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Speaker 1: you know, they they were just baked, all right, thirty

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Speaker 1: because we had the heteroses disconnected, we had to burp

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Speaker 1: was happy that that goes two miles. The car overheats. Well,

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Speaker 1: You'd have to work at it. So I said, geez,

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Speaker 1: Filled it up with cool It went through the whole

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Speaker 1: cooling fan doesn't come on. Now, how can that be?

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Speaker 1: We saw it work. We saw it work yesterday, eight

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Speaker 1: the data communication line that connects the engine PCM, the

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Speaker 1: Roninani and the Car Doctor. It's out there. It's an

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Speaker 1: eight video you'll see. And long story short, I tried

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Speaker 1: don't know, because sometimes even the best of scan tools,

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Speaker 1: the Catillac of the scan tools out there right now.

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Speaker 1: Because when Opus wouldn't make it work, after I'd gone

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Speaker 1: as Bill always says, they're not making them any easier

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Speaker 1: installed We have that ability with a Opus IVS scan

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Speaker 1: I agreed, it's got to be a bad cooling fan module.

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Speaker 1: module assembly. Yeah, that's what it was, right out of GM.

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Speaker 1: And of course nobody had one, which told me that's

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Speaker 1: you can't get emotional about it. You you want to live longer, then,

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Speaker 1: don't get emotional when it comes to auto repair. Don't

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine to nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: over to Joe and I with Joe. Welcome to the

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Ron, welcome. Hey, I just I got a question.

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Speaker 5: You know, I got you talking about your little ninety

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Speaker 5: it's the two point five four cylinder engine. Okay, and

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Speaker 5: I was wondering those spark and I don't remember if

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Speaker 5: I ever asked here on the spark plugs. Do those

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Speaker 1: No, they fire, They fire at the same time. One

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Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's what they were trying to do. Interestingly,

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Speaker 5: That's what I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: The four plugs were.

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Speaker 5: Mainly for emissions. What I thought that I need to

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Speaker 5: I really didn't want to take the time to pull

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Speaker 5: And I thought about changing the eighty six of them

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Speaker 1: Why change them all? Get you know, the shortcut you make,

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Speaker 1: the shortcut you make now, Joe, you might as well

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Speaker 1: do it. You might as well do it and get

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Speaker 1: When was the last time they were done? Is the

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: How many miles do they have on them?

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Speaker 5: They got sixty seven thousand miles on them, Okay, so

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Speaker 5: I would say they're definitely do yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and at the same time they're probably due for

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Speaker 1: trying to do some maintenance on it. How many miles

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Speaker 5: Seven something, all right, sixty seven thousand, so not a

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Speaker 1: So you know, you've got some carbon build up in there.

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Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, you're never going to get absolution from me,

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Speaker 1: my son trying to shortcut it. I just I just can't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I just I just didn't want to take

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Speaker 5: so I thought, well, maybe I just pop four plugs

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Speaker 5: trying to pull that MANI full of para. I wanted

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Speaker 5: to ask you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I was going to ask you too, if I could

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Speaker 5: power steering fluid, what's the best way to change that?

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Speaker 5: To take a hose loose on the bottom and let

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Speaker 1: You can you can do. You can take off the

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Speaker 1: me ask it. Let me ask you this question, all right.

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Speaker 1: And I just I just want to point something out,

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Speaker 1: all right, not to take the manifold to do the

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Speaker 1: I look, it's your truck, but if it were me,

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Speaker 1: I would and obviously you like the truck. Let's do

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Speaker 1: When was the last time any of those were done?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's probably four years for sure on the

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Speaker 5: Anna freeze because I had a leak on the durn

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Speaker 5: housing and stuff. I changed it out and putting hoses

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Speaker 5: I mean I kind of like to do it too.

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Speaker 1: You know who you know whose shoes have the most

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Speaker 5: The shoes I got mine. My boots are about worn out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know the shoemaker always has the most

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Speaker 1: So I've learned as a mechanic, I can, I can

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Speaker 1: You know, sit down, have a cup of coffee, get

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Speaker 1: out of yellow notepad, make a priority list, and say,

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Speaker 1: I want to get this done, this done, this done,

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Speaker 1: this done. As you check things off that list, when

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what you're saying. All right, So okay.

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Speaker 1: All right, but do those things, and you know, think

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Speaker 1: if it's been coming up on five years, a little

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Speaker 1: you know, a little extra early. As far as cooling

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Speaker 1: When was the last time the rear axle was changed?

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Speaker 1: Differential and all, you know, because all those things count.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to worry about longevity, you know, let's

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, Joe, Thanks for calling in. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you again the next time. A five to five

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Speaker 1: cruising back right after this. Don't go.

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Speaker 5: Let Ron's into his own the Auto Zone studio, and

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Speaker 1: Here's Ronay. Let's get over and talk to Willip and Maine.

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Speaker 1: A five VW golf. Well, welcome to the car Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 2: How can I help Well, I've got a strange thing

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Speaker 2: zero three four three code okay, and it starts okay,

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Speaker 2: runs fine, but sometimes it will get to thirty one

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Speaker 2: press the gas all the way to the floor. Nothing happens,

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Speaker 2: all right. If you go below three thousand, it runs normally,

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Speaker 2: goes through all the gears just fine, and then all

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Speaker 1: Okay. So three four three is related to camshaft position

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Speaker 1: talk about bicycles all right. You know you ever look

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Speaker 1: So take the bicycle and stand it up on end.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got the big sprocket up top and you've

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Speaker 1: an erratic or loss of signal out of the out

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00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 1: of the big Sprocket, out of the camshaft is sensor,

432
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: and it gets confused and they'll do different things with

433
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 1: different sensors. Typically crank position is used for ignition timing

434
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: and also to allow the vehicle to start it all

435
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: fire revolutions. You know where to put the plug, fire

436
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: and win the fire plugs and so on. And cam

437
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: position sensor will typically be used for fuel injection timing

438
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,199
Speaker 1: to relate to Okay, let's open the injector, let's give

439
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: it a shot of fuel. Now, you know, the strategies

440
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: vary by manufacturer, and I've never tried to memorize them.

441
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: I've just been aware that they're going to be different.

442
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: But bottom line comes down to P zero three four

443
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: to three. Let's go after that cam position sensor, which

444
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 1: is located inside You're gonna love this. It's located behind

445
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: the sprocket underneath the timing cover inside the engine, so

446
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: it's not exactly in an accessible place. But yeah, Now,

447
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: if you go to the front cover, you're going to

448
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: see a three wire connector, all right, and you've got

449
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,679
Speaker 1: pins one, two and three. Pin three will be a

450
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: brown blue wire. You've got to have good ground, all right. Well,

451
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: first thing you want to do is if you unplug

452
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: that and be judicious fancy word, all right, you want

453
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 1: to look at the pins inside the connector. Do they

454
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: look damaged, Are they oily? Do they look like they're

455
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: making good clean contact? Chances are they are. But it's

456
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: just you know, let's let's not miss a step here. Okay.

457
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: So you know, back in the old days, a million

458
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: years ago, we had like a very small I would

459
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: actually take a I used brass. You ever see brass

460
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: fueler gauges? Yeah, you know, I'd take like a very

461
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: I think, like the skinniest brass fueler gauge I could find,

462
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: and I would make a little and I would have

463
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: to make it short. And I think I used the

464
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: brass because the brass, in my mind, was a softer

465
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: material than steel, and I didn't want to scrape any

466
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: of the coating or any of any of the terminal away,

467
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. And I would make

468
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: like a little brass contact fueler gauge, and just you know,

469
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: does it feel snug? What's the drag test?

470
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 5: All right?

471
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a drag test on the terminal?

472
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: You know, nowadays we've probably got jumper wires we can

473
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: purchase that would plug in there and I could make

474
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: a drag test terminal out of that if I wanted

475
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: to and I want to just check the terminals. I

476
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: want to make sure I've got you know, good It

477
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be you know, I'm not trying to

478
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: push my finger through a wall, but I just want

479
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: to make sure I've got good contact. Nothing's distorted, nothing's bent,

480
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: nothing's oily dirty, et cetera. The brown blue wire is ground.

481
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: I want to check for ground. Okay, I want to

482
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: make sure I've got a good ground. You want to

483
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: use a meter, You want to put a ball across it, great,

484
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, all right. The green yellow wire

485
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: is going to be five vault power supply, but it

486
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: could also be battery volters, depending upon what generation VW

487
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: this is. So i'll see either five or twelve vaults

488
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: sitting there. Keon, engine off? All right. If I've got

489
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: power and ground, well, then I've got the basics. Then

490
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: my next step is Unfortunately, I'm gonna tell you would

491
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: need a scope because I want to look to see

492
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: do I have a digital signal? Do I have an

493
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: on off signal? A meter won't catch it, A meter

494
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: isn't fast enough, all right?

495
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: Will will ob D two cents or catch it?

496
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: You mean an OBD two scan tool?

497
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it might.

498
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: The problem is it's going to go. It's it's it's

499
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: happening so fast. And the reason. Look, if that's all

500
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: we've got to work with, let's try it, all right,

501
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, you're gonna have to look

502
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: at You're gonna have to look at that PID, that

503
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: piece of data by itself. Bring up our PM, bring

504
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: up crank and bring up cam. If it's there in

505
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: OBD two, it may not be there because it may

506
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: not be required by law. Anything you see on OBD

507
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: two is there only because it's defined to be there.

508
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: As you know, part of the part of the way

509
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: the law was written in order for that vehicle to

510
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: be looked at by anybody to be in a missions compliance.

511
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: That's where OBD two statutes come from. All right, but

512
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: it's worth trying, all right.

513
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: You know.

514
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: The other thing you could do is with the vehicles

515
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: sitting there at idle, if you gently, you know, kind

516
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: of tickle the connector a little bit, try and annoy it.

517
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: Does it make the car stutter? Stall? Do you hear it?

518
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,479
Speaker 1: Miss a beat? Do you hear it? You know, say hey,

519
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't like that, because we're looking for a failure

520
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: of signal from the camp sensor. If we can prove

521
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: good power on one, good ground on three, and we

522
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: see a good signal at idle off of two, then

523
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you to take it for a ride.

524
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Do you see the signal go away? Now, every once

525
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: in a blue moon, it's not the sensor, it's the

526
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: trigger wheel, which is the back of the camp'sprocket. Something

527
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: got in there, the form that hit it, struck it.

528
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: You know, somebody used it, the the bongos as I

529
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: like to say, you know, somebody was you know, deformed it.

530
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: But usually this is either the connector the G forty

531
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: connector or the sensor itself that that has failed. And

532
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: just make sure if you're out and you determine that

533
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: it is a sensor and you're going to change it,

534
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: that you get something real, something from uh you know,

535
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: Bosh would be my preference of choice. I wouldn't trust

536
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: anything in the aftermarket for this. This is very specific

537
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: and exact. So yep, boh, yeah, you know Bosh, whoever

538
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: the OE manufacturer was, or something right from Volkswagen. You know,

539
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Volkswagen has come a long way in the last couple

540
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: of years and I don't want anybody to fall off

541
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: their chair. But I'm starting to like volkswagons again, much

542
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 1: like I did when I was a kid. The biggest

543
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: problem I have with Volkswagen nowadays is just trying to

544
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: find parts and trying to get trying to get service information.

545
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: They're not making that part any easier. So, but that's

546
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: that's how I would attack this, because if we solve

547
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: the P zero three four to three, you may find

548
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: that you're cutting out, you know, shutting off over thirty

549
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: one hundred rpm. Problem goes away. You may not, chances

550
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: are you will, but at least we eliminate something, all right,

551
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's kind of what I'm chasing and

552
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: where we're going with this. All right, sir, So.

553
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: You're yeah, that sounds great. You're thinking more along the

554
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: connector than the sensor itself.

555
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: Possibly, Yeah, I give you a fifty to fifty shot.

556
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm just making you check the I'm making you check

557
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: the connector because I can't from my seat here as

558
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: a diagnostician tell you a it's a bad sensor. I

559
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: gotta know and listen, you know, you could you could

560
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: have a bad ground. Got to find the other end.

561
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: Of that ground wire and verify you know, clean, tight corroded.

562
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: You're in Maine, you know, next to New Jersey. You

563
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: guys get more corrosion than anybody from the from that

564
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: thing we call snow, right, how much chemical do they

565
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: put down on the road up there? Yeah? So you know,

566
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: how I fix a car in Maine is very different

567
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: than how I fix a car in southern California. Two

568
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: different extremes in terms of what I'm looking for, because environment,

569
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: environment changes things.

570
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 4: So all right, sir, Hey, great, I really appreciate the help.

571
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: You're very welcome to us. Know what happens, I'll be

572
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: here for you. Take good care, Ron, and aning the

573
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: car doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back, heck,

574
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: running in the car doctor, rolling along the erro. Let's

575
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: go to Tom in Wisconsin. Tom, Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

576
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: How can I help Ron?

577
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 4: I got a twenty one Colorado okay, and GM has

578
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: had a problem with when you first start driving between

579
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: first and second year on the transmission, it seems to

580
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: slip a little bit. I've headed to two different dealers

581
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: and both of them dealers say that that's a common

582
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if they call it a problem, but

583
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 4: it's a common occurrence in that model. I just wonder

584
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: neither one of the dealers did any paperwork on this problem.

585
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 4: I just wonder if I should have paperwork done on

586
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 4: that before the warranty runs out.

587
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I would let me ask, let me ask you a

588
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: couple of questions, Tom, how many miles are on it?

589
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: It did it from when I bought it?

590
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 5: Knew?

591
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: Okay? And which engine? Is this? The V six or

592
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: the four cylinder?

593
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: Six?

594
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

595
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: Six cylinder?

596
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: All right? And it is it that? Are you saying

597
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: that it goes from first to second you can see

598
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: the RPM go up before it picks up the shift point.

599
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 4: No, the rpm does not accelerate, So.

600
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Then how do you know that it's trans slippage if

601
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: the trans was slipping. Let's define it like this. If

602
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: the trans was slipping, can we agree that if it

603
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: goes from first under load and it's trying to go

604
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: to second gear, we should see the rpm climb If

605
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: the transmission were slipping, I don't believe.

606
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: I don't leave it slips enough to make the engine rev.

607
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: Well, then I don't think the trans are slipping. I

608
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: haven't seen it as a problem, and I'm just trying

609
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: to be you know, approach this. How can I prove it?

610
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: Let's do this right, Okay, let's do this. You have

611
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: manual shift on this automatic? Correct? Isn't there a position

612
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: if you pull it down at the first don't they

613
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: give you a shift button?

614
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: Yep?

615
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: All right? So if we start out in first gear,

616
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: pull it down at the first, start out in first

617
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: if you manually shift it, does it do the same thing.

618
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: That I do not know?

619
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Try that that might tell us something?

620
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: Is that?

621
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: So what that's telling me then, is it's it's not

622
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: a mechanical function. I'm sorry, it's it's more a mechanical

623
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: function of how that transmission is being told to shift

624
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: as a sensation rather than a defect in the vehicle.

625
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: Let me say it, go ahead.

626
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: Both of the dealers I brought it to said, that's

627
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: a common occurrence with all that year, those couple of

628
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: years of GM.

629
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: Products operating characteristic.

630
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yeah.

631
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: Let me let me say it like this, if this

632
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: was a slipping transmission. So every modern day vehicle, I

633
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: don't care where it's made, just about every modern day

634
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: vehicle I can think of has a sensor on the

635
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: input shaft of the trans and the output shaft of

636
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: the trans. The computer knows input rpm, it knows output rpm.

637
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: If the shift point creates a slip where nothing happens

638
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: over a long enough period of time, it'll set a

639
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: code and turn on a light. That's it. So what

640
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why I'm asking, is is what

641
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: you're experiencing bumping the rpm? And if it's if it's,

642
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: if it's not, then yeah, you know what. The trans

643
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: just shifts frum me between first and second.

644
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Well, the only time it does it is when you

645
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: first start out. After that, it's good.

646
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: When it's cold, so it's the first hit in the

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Speaker 1: morning when it does this, right, Yeah, then I would

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Speaker 1: definitely have it documented before it goes out of warranty.

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Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any bulletins or any faults that

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Speaker 1: they're talking about, but I would definitely have it documented

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Speaker 1: because when enough people complain about it, if enough people

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Speaker 1: are having the issue, then everybody's going to go through it,

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Speaker 1: and you want to make sure you're on the list

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Speaker 1: as far as being able to get any kind of

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Speaker 1: warranty claim. Should the vehicle come out come out by

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Speaker 1: mileage and the defect shows up. But like I said,

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Speaker 1: as far as it and I understand what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not broken. But in the eyes

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Speaker 1: of GM or the government, as far as the way

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Speaker 1: the vehicle operates, the vehicle's correct because it hasn't set

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Speaker 1: a fault code yet, which means they're working on it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they give me posted tom. I haven't heard about

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Speaker 1: this one, so if evolves into something more, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to know, so, by all means, keep us in your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Height five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back in the

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Speaker 1: car doctor here eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero. I should point out that, you know

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Speaker 1: during midweek, you know eight five five five six zero

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Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. Or send us an email, all right,

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Speaker 1: Actually you can call the eight five five five six

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Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero phone number, leave a message.

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Speaker 1: We typically do recordings Wednesday night, and you know, we'd

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Speaker 1: like to record you and put your phone call in

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Speaker 1: the queue and then use it in a show because

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Speaker 1: we want we want to put it up on the air.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know, time's getting short and

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of me to go around some weeks,

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Speaker 1: and if I can answer your question and help somebody

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Speaker 1: else and help about the thousands that are listening, then

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Speaker 1: that's what I'd rather do. You know, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about our previous call, our last call with the Colorado.

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Speaker 1: I think that was Tom. Perhaps it was the way

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Speaker 1: he asked it, because it jiggled my brain during the

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Speaker 1: break I was thinking about it. He might be talking

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Speaker 1: about GM Service bulletin sixteen NAO one nine that talks

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Speaker 1: about transmission adaptives, shifts, slips and flares in the way

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Speaker 1: the vehicle operates, and they talk through and they go

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Speaker 1: through some very specific procedures to be sure that that

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Speaker 1: vehicle is up on its software. And I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: that's perhaps what the dealership is missing to that they're

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Speaker 1: not documenting or looking for bulletins, or maybe that one

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Speaker 1: got past them. But there's a very specific GM bulletin

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Speaker 1: out there that talks about overall shift, slip flare, adaptive

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Speaker 1: resets and to be sure that the vehicle has correct

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Speaker 1: software calibration in the transmission and updates because it may

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Speaker 1: not be setting a fault, but they can determine that

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Speaker 1: it could be better with different software. So if you're

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Speaker 1: still listening, Tom, try that. Take a look at sixteen

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Speaker 1: NA one to nine GM bulletin. Go talk to the dealer.

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Speaker 1: I'm modinating in the Guard Doctor, reminding you until the

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Speaker 1: next time. God mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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