WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Cam Turner Talks Kyler And Pass Game

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<v Speaker 1>flurring rage, taking it over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong will flee. It doesn't get any better than that, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>unleash the far. It was the night before the preseason opener, Wolf,

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<v Speaker 1>when all through the Red Sea not a starter was

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<v Speaker 1>stirring except for three Zavian Marco Willo Hernandez. Cardinals cleats

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<v Speaker 1>were hung by their lockers with care and hopes that

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<v Speaker 1>a roster spot would soon be there. The coaches were

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<v Speaker 1>nestled all snug in their beds with visions of air

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<v Speaker 1>free and injury free football dancing in their heads. When

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<v Speaker 1>out on the Great Lawn there arose such a clatter.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the Turk with a preseason proclamation that games

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<v Speaker 1>might not count, but they matter. Paul, What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing right now? Honestly? Preseason openers tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just thinking, you know, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday, right it's a holiday to football fans. The

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<v Speaker 1>season is gone. I thought i'd get into the holiday spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we get some football all out there and

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<v Speaker 1>once again, it might not count, but it matters. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's our intro. Wolf to the Big Red Rate presented

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<v Speaker 1>by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I can I just sell you right now for this wedgebuster?

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<v Speaker 1>You freaked me out right there. I'm looking at my

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<v Speaker 1>calendar on my phone. What date is it? Okay, Paul? Next,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Christmas in August. It's that's the way we're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to this right now, Wolf, after over two weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>camp practices, are you not ready for a game? No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about it, Paul, Friday Night, I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 1>In particular, I would have to say, because there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be an appearance by some starters. Some guys

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals are definitely going to depend on to

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<v Speaker 1>take a vast majority of the reps this year. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Will Hernandez as a guy that is going to

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<v Speaker 1>actually play on Friday night. Cannot wait to see this brawler.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Zaven Collins, Zaven Collins. How many reps will

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<v Speaker 1>he get? Maybe fifteen, over fifteen, maybe over twenty reps,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. And then of course Goal Wilson is out

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<v Speaker 1>there Devon Kennard as well. You've got some guys the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals are going to look to and depend on

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<v Speaker 1>to actually be starters this year that are going to

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<v Speaker 1>play on Friday Night. Pollie, Yeah, it's the quarterbacks though,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be most conspicuous. And by the way, moments away,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Turner, quarterbacks coach and co passing game Coordinata, will

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<v Speaker 1>join us on the Big Red Rage. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get to the bottom of a few issues in Cam.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, the media obviously has been all over the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach on a daily basis for an update on

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray, and first it was COVID, then it was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to acclimate him back, you know, and maybe making

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<v Speaker 1>too many throws early because he reported with the rookies

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe or maybe not had something to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the risk. So Cliff Kingsbury today for example, asked about okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray and then his center Rodney Hudson. What's the latest.

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<v Speaker 1>We feel good about his progression. Next week, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be back out there and we'll still be smart,

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<v Speaker 1>but just getting him the team reps, building that rapport.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we get Rodney Hudson at some point next week

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<v Speaker 1>and can get the band back together and start moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward as a first offensive unit. You know, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason when you look at the depth chart and Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray is your fourth string quarterback in the down is

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<v Speaker 1>Up depth chart that the Cardinals put out for this

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<v Speaker 1>first preseason game. By the way, day Pass very appreciative

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy who does a spot spotting board, right

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<v Speaker 1>because they're telling you who exactly is going to play

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<v Speaker 1>and who is not. And Kyler Murray is a four

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<v Speaker 1>string quarterback. He's not going against the Bengals. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>you play by play guys, you're just so high maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>will you knock it off plays. I mean, I understand

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all about, and I get it. It did

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense. You know what, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at that depth chart, Polly, and I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>as a prove it chart house Well, just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>some of the guys that I think are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be starters. I already mentioned it, I Will Hernandez. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Will Hernandez Polly is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>right guard for the Arizona Cardinals. I would, yes, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'd agree on that right there. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>he's listed as a starter when every other guy on

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<v Speaker 1>that offensive line is third team, fourth team, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Paully, So to me once again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna give Will Hernandez some reps. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a situation. They just want to see a little grease

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<v Speaker 1>from this guy. They want to see him actually get

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<v Speaker 1>out there, kind of like having a new toy, Pollie,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like having a new ride and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to jump in your Mustang, Paul, your new Mustang

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<v Speaker 1>and go for a ride. Because that's exactly the way

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<v Speaker 1>I think they look at Will Hernandez right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>want to take that guy for a little spin out

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<v Speaker 1>there on Friday night. Yeah, no doubt. You don't truly

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<v Speaker 1>know what you have until you have a game situation

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have some game film to evaluate, So

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<v Speaker 1>I would totally agree with that. Also, I'm guessing they

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<v Speaker 1>want to get him acclimated into the playbook and if

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a checks of the line and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to learn the system. For example, a couple of new

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<v Speaker 1>guys have said, you know, it's new getting used to

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<v Speaker 1>the hand signals now that usually applies more to the

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<v Speaker 1>weapons in the interior offensive lineman. But yeah, look there's

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<v Speaker 1>a checklist. The head coach he knows what he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see, and of course the media asked him that yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>right though obligatory, Okay, coach, what do you want from

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason opener? There's a culmination a lot of hard

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<v Speaker 1>work for a lot of these young guys to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and show what they can do. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoy the preseason games and I'd say it's more

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<v Speaker 1>evaluation than anything, and then we want to see how

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<v Speaker 1>they take what they got right, what they got wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and move forward in the game too, And so it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a good starting point. Oh, paul I love that

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<v Speaker 1>right there, y'all. Really, it's going to be more of

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<v Speaker 1>an evaluation, is it really? Because Zaven Collins is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be starting as well. PAULI. Zaven Collins going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the prove it chart once again, not the depth chart,

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<v Speaker 1>the prove it chart going into Friday night and playing

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<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals, Zaven Collins. I think Zaven thinks he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get more than fifteen reps. At least that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he told me. He thinks he's gonna get more than

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen reps in this game. Here's a young guy that

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<v Speaker 1>is making his way. Here's a young guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>know that Cliff Kingsbury wants to see vance Joseph wants

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<v Speaker 1>to see go out there and play in all different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of down and distances, not just rundown situation first

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<v Speaker 1>and ten, second and one to six, but also third

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<v Speaker 1>and obvious past situations. They want to see Zaven Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>They want him to go out there on to prove

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<v Speaker 1>it mentality and take some reps. And then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Wilson as well, PAULI, Marco Wilson, you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the comments of Cliff Kingsbury challenging Marco Wilson saying the

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<v Speaker 1>jury is still out that he needs more consistency in

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<v Speaker 1>his play. That's another guy that is listed as a

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<v Speaker 1>starter that we know had a great season through the

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<v Speaker 1>first twelve thirteen weeks of last season before he tailed

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<v Speaker 1>off at the end hit a rookie wall. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a great season. So there's a lot of young guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have to prove it. Paul. If you're playing, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're starting this game, that means you do not have

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<v Speaker 1>a starting spot wrapped up in a lot of cases.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, Byron Murphy Junior is four string. Nick vigil

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<v Speaker 1>is four string. They're both I would think considered slam

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<v Speaker 1>dunk starters right now at their two respective positions. With

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<v Speaker 1>Zaven Collins just based on the fact that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>getting very many defensive snaps a year ago because the

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<v Speaker 1>injury and performance. Zaven Collins, if he can't go out

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<v Speaker 1>there against a Villaal offense and mostly backups for the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't look dominant or at least adequate, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a giant red flag. And then of

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<v Speaker 1>course Marco Wilson, who's been put on semi blast by

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach. You just needs to see more or

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<v Speaker 1>at least needs to see consistency out of a corner.

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<v Speaker 1>They hope and expect to be a top two guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but until he absolutely just nails it shot, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>handing it to either guy. Yeah, Paul, he can I

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<v Speaker 1>just say this quickly as well. If this is growth

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<v Speaker 1>I think from Cliff Kingsbury, from the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals. Have you ever heard Cliff Kingsbury call

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<v Speaker 1>a player out, Paul? Honestly, I'm trying to remember. No, Paulie,

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<v Speaker 1>you have not heard that. I haven't heard that either.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I heard Cliff Kingsbury say what he did

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<v Speaker 1>about Marco Wilson once again, a guy that was the

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<v Speaker 1>talk of training camp last season and played extremely exceedingly

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<v Speaker 1>well through the first twelve weeks of last season. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you've got Cliff Kingsbury calling out

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<v Speaker 1>a player saying we got to see more and I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. That's growth out of our head coach. Until

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<v Speaker 1>this year, what was his m He would take the blame,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a lot of cases it was unwarranted, but

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<v Speaker 1>he would be the guy who took the arrows from

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<v Speaker 1>the media and took the blame and stepped in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the player and would to flect. But now look,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's in line with everything we've talked about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if this has been an off season of accountability, last

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<v Speaker 1>year was an offseason of bringing in leadership. This year

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<v Speaker 1>it's been an offseason of bringing in accountabilit right down

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<v Speaker 1>to hard knocks coming to town. Another layer of accountability

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach holding players accountable with the press. So

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<v Speaker 1>once again, Cliff Kingsbury, you mentioned some of the names,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was officially asked if any starters, guys he

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<v Speaker 1>considers starters right now will go against the Bengals. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a ton. I mean we're gonna play some guys who

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<v Speaker 1>have a chance, like Xavin will play, some Guardek will play,

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<v Speaker 1>some Marco on defense. Offensively, Yeah, not too many guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I think we'll crack that starting lineup. He heard

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<v Speaker 1>Guardeck there too. That's interesting. Now we know Marcus Golden

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<v Speaker 1>has been out with what they're calling a toe injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe Devon Knard that battle is still up four

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<v Speaker 1>grabs with Dennis Gardeck. But would you not say that

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Gardeck looks much more like the two twenty version

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<v Speaker 1>than the twenty twenty one version coming off the ACL. Yeah, PAULI,

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<v Speaker 1>he does. There's no doubt Dennis Gardeck. And again remember

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a defensive coordinator, Advanced Joseph. Whether you

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<v Speaker 1>like Vance Joseph or not, you need to understand he

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<v Speaker 1>built his reputation in the National Football League at the

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<v Speaker 1>highest level. Our species going to generate on five man

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<v Speaker 1>pressures and bringing five man pressures, six man blitzes or more.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, if you're gonna go cover zero and five

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<v Speaker 1>man pressure packages, complex pressure packages where you didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>which five are actually coming, that is what Vance Joseph

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<v Speaker 1>is known for in the National Football League. He schemes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressures. And if you want proof on that,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a Hassan Reddick and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Gardeck. Those two guys in particular, you're scheming up sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit later, we're going to talk about who

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<v Speaker 1>specifically we want to see, especially some of the young guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, Cardinals go into this game and there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of I guess consternation to a degree

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<v Speaker 1>over Okay, Wait a minute, are they bringing any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of time time signs in? Are they going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>any proven veterans off the street at corner or edge? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we can read into this. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>see what they have when Marco Wilson is starting, when

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Hamilton is going as well, when Dennis Gardeck is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they want to really evaluate what they have

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of an edge rush, in terms of that

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<v Speaker 1>cornerback room, and then decide accordingly if they have to

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<v Speaker 1>go outside this team and invest some money. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest tonight is fifth year with the Cardinals, named

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<v Speaker 1>QB's coach last year co passing game coordinator this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the next step for Kyler? What's he getting from

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<v Speaker 1>calling plays Kyler? And what's the deal with the green hat?

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Turner? Is next? The Big Red Rage presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Santan four in Gilbert. Here comes Kyler Murray, the number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall pick in the NFL draft, and the future

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<v Speaker 1>of the franchise takes the field for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great throw, a great read by Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray for you could just see it. Kyler Murray and

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<v Speaker 1>the confidence started to grow. They have seen the Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy winner, a winner his whole life, backing it up

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<v Speaker 1>with his play have a thirty half the twenty at

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen ten five cups down, Kyler Murray, you are ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 1>Murray magic, nasty, isis nasty does And we all know

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyler Murray is nasty. The stuff you see in

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<v Speaker 1>dreams and in video games, but not in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've all had a front row seat the last

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<v Speaker 1>three years to a Rookie of the Year, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of Pro Bowls of more highlights than we have time for,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody has had a seat like our guest tonight

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<v Speaker 1>on the Big Red Rage present of Ice, santan Ford,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gilbert as we welcome in Cam Turner, quarterbacks coach

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<v Speaker 1>and now co passing game coordinator. I mean when I

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<v Speaker 1>say front row seat, Cam, you're you're sitting next to

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray the majority of every game. Correct, Yeah, every

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<v Speaker 1>game since since he got here. And I'm a little thrown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest with I need to confirm that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe I should ask for ID or

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<v Speaker 1>something because you're not wearing the green hat. Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it throws me a little bit. How much notoriety

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<v Speaker 1>do you get for the green hat? Because talking to

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Urban Easy Cardinals dot com, he does get mail

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<v Speaker 1>bag questions, Hey, where can I get a green hat

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<v Speaker 1>like Coach Turner? Yeah, I get it, especially from my family,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom, dad, sisters, and then the random emails or

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<v Speaker 1>calls I'll get, you know, to my office phone, which

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. And I guess they don't sell it at

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<v Speaker 1>the team store, so people are trying to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>So people actually find your direct extension and they leave

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<v Speaker 1>voicemails asking that's good, that's some good investigative work by

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea. I wish I could help him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have an answer, and why what's behind the

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<v Speaker 1>green hat? As long as we're there, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>with our style of offense, we're up tempo, no huddle

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<v Speaker 1>type offense, a lot of communications coming from the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>to the receivers, running backs, tight ends, what formation we're in,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on and off the field. They know directly to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the sideline and can find the green hat,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can I'm gonna tell him who's on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and where to line up. Gotcha. It's interesting. You

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<v Speaker 1>just wrapped up with practice and role reversal. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler wearing the headset. Yes, that was fun. It is fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So to what degree is he easy really

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<v Speaker 1>calling plays? I think I heard him say no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just reading these plays are already scripted. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I see him mail pointing, And what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's learning in that process? Is there some valuable insight

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<v Speaker 1>that he's gleaning. Perhaps so it's at a little at both.

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<v Speaker 1>He's reading from a script. Practice is scripted, but within

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<v Speaker 1>that period that is scripted, there's checks and he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback's ear. He's saying, if they do this, do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we can get to this play, check out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we go two minute at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>practice and he is true calling it live, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no script. He has a call sheet with all of

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<v Speaker 1>our inventory, everything that we put in to date, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's calling it, you know, with the forty second' clock

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's going on and situational penalties and clocks. He's

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<v Speaker 1>handling it. Well, that's good. And what do you hope

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<v Speaker 1>he learns about that aspect of the game. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's different things you think about as a play caller.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have to look ahead, all right, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is incomplete, or if this is complete inbounds it's

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<v Speaker 1>two minute. There's a lot of situational things he has

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. You know. Our clock management coach Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>was on the sideline with us and he's alright, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a time out if it's inbounds. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of plays where we can get out of bounds,

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<v Speaker 1>or what the next play is gonna be in what

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<v Speaker 1>formation we have to get into. Cam Turner our guest

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coach, co passing game coordinator. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the next step for Kyler this season? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it is the mental part.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's got every physical tool you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but everyone can get better mentally and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the field and just getting the experience and getting the

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<v Speaker 1>protection right, getting into a different play and from the

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<v Speaker 1>day here, he's coming a long way as far as

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<v Speaker 1>learning it and soaking it all in and having great

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and he's always being creative and thinking of ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and bringing them up to us, which is we love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome because he's the one out there. We only

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<v Speaker 1>get a little slice of what really happens. But multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times last year we heard stories that Cardinals would score

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<v Speaker 1>have a big chunk play, and a lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>was the direct result of Kyler making a check at

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage right at the time. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a great feel for it, and he's always

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<v Speaker 1>an attacking mode. So if he's seeing something he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to attack, he's gonna call it and attack it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he has that freedom because I had a marketing mantra

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<v Speaker 1>when he first arrived. Come for the arm, stay for

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<v Speaker 1>the legs, and then we've added fear of the mind,

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<v Speaker 1>right because now if he can start beating defenses between

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<v Speaker 1>the year holes, look out right, no doubt and he's

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<v Speaker 1>gotten I mean, his football knowledge is great. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>his instincts and he has a great feel for the game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just learning how we do things and what concepts

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<v Speaker 1>he can get to in our system and out of

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<v Speaker 1>what protections and all that. But as far as instincts

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<v Speaker 1>and feel for the game, it's best I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Turner our guest here on the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coach, and it was interesting because it was Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>Warner came on the big Red Rage recently said to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then David Carr and Ed Feld Network said the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same thing, that the key for Kyler any young

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback is making the layups, taking the easy completions that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes they'll neglect an easy completion and they'll look down

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<v Speaker 1>field when you know the better choice is just to

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<v Speaker 1>go with the easy throw. And to what degree do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is that's something that he can improve on? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's a huge part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Rights it's a difficult position. It's a difficult game. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you are presented with an opportunity to take a

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<v Speaker 1>gimme if you will, you gotta take it. And you

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<v Speaker 1>can't pass one up to try to get something bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and better because there's no guarantees that's going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's always an emphasis. And you know, we love

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<v Speaker 1>our one on one matchups with our receivers we have

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<v Speaker 1>and anytime we can get one on one with a

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<v Speaker 1>good look, you know, we're picking our guys. Last question

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<v Speaker 1>on your fourth string quarterback and then we'll move on

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<v Speaker 1>to who's playing. And I say that because a depth

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<v Speaker 1>chart came out and it's jarring to see Kyla Murray

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<v Speaker 1>as a fourth string quarterback. But as Dave Pash, voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cardinals, we were talking, you know, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the depth chart because it really tells us Sue's playing

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<v Speaker 1>Friday against Cincinnati. You know, a lot is made about

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray and on the sideline, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those times he's sitting next to you and the camera

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<v Speaker 1>catches him. Justin Pugh brought up that, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put a camera on me the entirety of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, you'll get a variety of reactions. And as

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline reporter, you don't see Kyler Murray coming down

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<v Speaker 1>and talking to the offensive lineman, good or bad. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he's giving him props. Sometimes there's a kick in the tailpad.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year in Nashville, Tennessee, you saw players coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. He was holding them accountable as the franchise quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Where there was a rookie like Rondel Moore, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was DeAndre Hopkins. So there's a lot that fans don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily see on the sideline. They only get a quick

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<v Speaker 1>glimpse from a sideline camera. Correct is loving him up,

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.159
<v Speaker 1>he is getting going, He's hey, here's our here's how

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<v Speaker 1>we're changing this with the receivers be ready for this check.

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<v Speaker 1>He is in constant communication on the sideline with myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the skill guys, the offensive line. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that camera pans on him. If a camera was on

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<v Speaker 1>me all game, I'd be guilty as well, because it

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<v Speaker 1>highs and lows for the game. So, so what are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking forward to the most? Actually teeing it up

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<v Speaker 1>and going against the Bengals preseason style, But what are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking for? Where do you think this team is

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<v Speaker 1>at on offense and in particular the passing game. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited obviously about the quarterbacks. Trace you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in his fourth year, and then we got Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a rookie. I'm excited about both of them. They've

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<v Speaker 1>been practicing well. They they've handled everything mentally, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>very well. I'm excited about them. And then along with

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<v Speaker 1>our skill guys. Because you put the you go into

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<v Speaker 1>a game and it's alive, bullets start flying. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see who can break tackles, you can see who's a gamer,

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<v Speaker 1>who can make guys miss m That's what I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about him When it comes to Trace McSorley He's got

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<v Speaker 1>an intriguing skill set, doesn't he. Yes, very um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him coming out of college, we actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to a visit him, worked him out, and happens he's

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<v Speaker 1>with us now. But we loved him coming out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>We loved his skill set and very bright, understands the game,

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<v Speaker 1>very athletic, can run and can make all the throws.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm excited to get him out there

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<v Speaker 1>and let him do what he does. Yet, in the

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<v Speaker 1>Red White, I thought Jared Guarantano, he had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of plays he sold the athleticism evading an all out

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<v Speaker 1>blitz coming to the nearest sideline and he threw on

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<v Speaker 1>the run a rope down the sideline. Greg Dorch snagged it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean he saw a little bit everything on

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<v Speaker 1>just that single play by Guarantanna, who I guess originally

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<v Speaker 1>was at Tennessee and then most recently from Washington State. Right. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And his Washington State career was one year and he

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<v Speaker 1>only played I think two quarters he had an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm that kind of he was kind of under

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<v Speaker 1>the radars are as the draft and all that big guy,

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<v Speaker 1>big arm, can make all the throws and you see them.

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<v Speaker 1>One he made in the Scrimmers on the sideline was unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>roll into his right, laid it out there with a

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<v Speaker 1>nice touch, and it was a completion. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better throws at Canda. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>weapons out there, isn't there? I mean, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of opportunity for some of these younger unknown receivers

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<v Speaker 1>to make an impression and put some film out there. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>if not for the Cardinals thirty one other teams. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely a lot of NFL receivers on our roster

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<v Speaker 1>that that should be playing on some team on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 1>Has Kyler got in any complaints? You know when he's

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<v Speaker 1>when he's got the headset on Aby complaining about their

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<v Speaker 1>targets with Kyler? You know, I'm sure they're all. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they all are. How about a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 1>who seemingly have stood out a Greg Dortch, maybe Victor

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<v Speaker 1>Bolden junior, smaller guys I was talking with the wolf

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<v Speaker 1>on the side, like Annie Isabella hasn't dropped a pass

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<v Speaker 1>in camp. There's a role for that smaller quick guy,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if Ron del Moore is gonna be more of

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<v Speaker 1>a downfield type receiver this year, right, I think both.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean side slot guy, the shifty find the windows

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<v Speaker 1>and then the outside guy who's gonna take the top

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<v Speaker 1>off the defense. And I'm really stretched the field vertically.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, definitely, I mean Greg Dortch and Andre all

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<v Speaker 1>those guys have been making plays and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see him in the games. Camp Turner, our guests, quarterbacks coach,

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<v Speaker 1>co passing game coordinator. So what does a Hollywood Brown

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<v Speaker 1>do once the regular season starts and once we see

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<v Speaker 1>him out there in a real game, what do you

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 1>think Hollywood Brown does for this offense? I mean, I

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna be electric. You know, you see him.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen glimpses of him catch the ball and just

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<v Speaker 1>take off separate top of the route. We just as

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<v Speaker 1>a coaching staff, we have to do a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of getting him the ball, finding ways to get him

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, be creative and let those guys do what

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<v Speaker 1>they do best. I was watching a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a game last year. I think it was Dallas and

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 1>there was thirteen personnel. People don't realize. Yeah, first play

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>of the game, right, you click there you go that

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that cliff three tight ends out there, yes, and Greg

0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Doorche made a big catch. Absolutely can entering your tight

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<v Speaker 1>end room this year when healthy. What do you think

0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that means for this Cardinals office and just in general

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this Cardinals offense. What do you think the evolution looks

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 1>like here in year four? I think we can continue

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to be versatile and personnel, you know, go three tight ends,

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>which you mentioned thirteen personnel. We major an eleven personnel,

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>which is three receivers. But I think you can do

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 1>everything in between. You can do with two running backs

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field. You can go two tight ends. And

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you used to be versatile and make defenses work on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things. True or false. When this

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals offense was really firing last year, the run game

0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was a critical part. The run game was successful last

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<v Speaker 1>year when the offense was really averaging thirty plus a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, that's a huge part of I'd say any offense,

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, get that running game going, and that's why

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 1>it's huge. We got James connorback that is that is

0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>very important for our offense and to run the ball

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>and then also to open up the play action and

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the counters off of it and down

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>this wretch. I think there was only one game where

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<v Speaker 1>Chase and James were healthy and playing together. Right, So

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.959
<v Speaker 1>if you get that one two punch, you know an Eno,

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Benjamin at Daryl Williams, et cetera behind him, do you

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<v Speaker 1>do you envision that being a dual role, that running

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<v Speaker 1>back and enough touches for both guys? I think so,

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's a hard position to play, so

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>you want to keep him fresh. UM, roll him in

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and out and get those guys going, and have a

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<v Speaker 1>plan for James, have a plan for Eno, have a

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>plan for Daryl, and and let it go and keep

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>those guys fresh. How's the throwing arm? By the way,

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>as a former college quarterback, you know, are you on

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a pitch count? How's it going? A very limited pitch

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>count and about under ten yards? So all right, last

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>question for gamp Turner, UM, no d hop for six weeks.

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>What didn't happen the end of last season that needs

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>to happen this season? You know, I just think we

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>have to do a good job as a staff as

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<v Speaker 1>as far as game planning and playing to our guys

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>strengths to Hollywood, to Zach Ertz, Everyone's strengths, you know,

0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 1>Aj and just have a good rotation and kind of

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>overcome that for six weeks, but we're definitely going miss him.

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>He's an unbelievable player. It obviously makes a quarterback job easier,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, just throwing to d Hop, But does it

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>make it easier to read coverage when d Hop gets

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>all that attention? We definitely see different coverages when he's

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>not in. You know, we're seeing different coverages, different philosophies

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.720
<v Speaker 1>by the defense. I don't know if it's easier. It's different,

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because you're you're getting different things. But when

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you have him out there, you know pretty much what

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>you're getting. That's right, all right, Well, yeah, what's the

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>saying about? Right, You're gonna get an exposed or get

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 1>exposure in these preseason games right when the lights come on,

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. Yeah, and AJ Green will be the center

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>of attention down there on the sideline. So now we

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>look forward to it this year, Coach, We appreciate the insight,

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>and I think everyone's looking forward to a where the

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<v Speaker 1>offense goes Kyler Murray as well, and we'll look for

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<v Speaker 1>you in the green hat down to the sideline this

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 1>year sounds good. I'll be there, thanks for having me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's camp Turner everyone. We'll be back with more and

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the big red rate presented by santan Ford right after this,

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I want a good job at the mortum attack right

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<v Speaker 1>there and say like DJ Humphrey's got a nice block.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphrey's pumping his chest and his fist after the

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals moved the sticks. Yeah. DJ Humphrey's really has been

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a plus. Has a hole up the middle to the

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>thirty five yard line, a huge hole. Great job by

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 1>DJ Humphrey's at the point. If you had told me

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>this in twenty fifteen, at first, you know what I mean.

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>At first, Rickey minicap that distance is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the case eight years later, I probably would have laughed

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 1>at you, you know what I mean. But build on

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>this side of him, and it's definitely sweet man being

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>able to you know, secure my future here and nope,

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to be here. I always wanted to

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 1>play for one team so annoying, and I'm able to

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>be in a physician to continue to keep their dream

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of out Excuse me. D J Humphries during the beginning

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>of camp after his three year contract extension fifty one

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>million in total value thirty three million. Garonteed, it's almost

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like a proud parent. Well, if you and me right,

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 1>DJ Hmprey's former player, host of this show. We've literally

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>watched him grow up, Yeah, really young and by his

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.199
<v Speaker 1>own admission, immature twenty year old to what he is

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>now one of the best left tackles in the game. Yeah,

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. Ballly, it is kind of cool

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to see that, and that's got to be so rewarding

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:16.919
<v Speaker 1>as well. Inside an organization, you go ahead, you draft

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy high, and then you develop him. You see

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.679
<v Speaker 1>him grow through some of the valleys. Of course, you

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>see him grow in terms of handling the peaks, even

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>in doing that with wisdom and strength, and that certainly

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>has been the case with DJ Humphries. This is a

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>guy that has grown up, as you said, Pauli, before

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>our eyes, but more so off the field maybe that

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>even on the field. Yeah, and you know what a

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>big reason why was Chandler Jones. It's this time of

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>year where he got better. He got better going against

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones all those years in Cardinal's camp and now

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he's counted on. Rarely does he get help. I asked

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury about that. Rarely do they send someone over

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to his side to help out at a block or

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>any anything like that. So they're counting on him big time.

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, it's funny because it's almost like we're

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>back two years ago. Well, there's a narrative out there

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>from some of the national media that the Cardinals old

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>line is a weakness again, and I'm just wondering what

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>your take on that is and where do you consider

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it as strength? Do you consider it a question mark?

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Where are you on this Cardinals offensive line? Because in fact,

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>let's hear from Sean Coogler, because he mentioned how this

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>starting group is pretty much set. Here. Sean Coogler, the

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>ole line coach, you know, I think our starting five's

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:35.479
<v Speaker 1>close to being set. There's still guys battling for spots,

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>but most of the battles are for backup spots and

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to be that seventh or eighth guy on game

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>day and then making the active rosters. And again, we

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of really good battles at those spots,

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't tell you which one of those guys

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>is gonna stand out. It's really going to depend on

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the preseason games for me, paul A, Right now, I

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>look at the Cardinals offensive line. I see an above

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>average offensive line with Will Hernandez as your right guard

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and with Rodney Hudson back at center. You got to remember,

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<v Speaker 1>four of the five guys that are coming back guys

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>who actually played together last year. Three of the five

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>have played together four years, Polly. So I look at

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>this situation where I think it is going to be

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>an above average offensive line right now. And keep in mind, Polly,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to have a top ten offensive line

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>to win in the National Football League. You don't. You

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>go back and you look at it. What you need

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>is an offensive line that is good enough, Polly, to

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>allow your skill, your talents to do what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense, Paul, Well, you know what's remarkable.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>They're taking on the Bengals. And when you look at

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>some of the Bengals info from last year and the

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 1>run to the Super Bowl, you forget that Joe Burrow,

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>including the playoffs, was sacked seventy times. Yes, and they

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>still made the Super Bowl. Yes, it's remarkable. Now, they

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>went out and they tried to find three new starters

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>in the offseason was definitely a need. They can't let

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>that happen to the franchise quarterback much longer. He won't

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>be around much longer. But to your point, somehow the

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Bengals made that offensive line work where Joe Burrow was

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>able to still execute the offense. That's right, Polly, And again,

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have the greatest man. You just

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>gotta have guys that are going to be pros. I

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>look at this offensive line right now with Will Hernandez Paulli.

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Will Hernandez is the baby. He's going into his fifth year, Paul,

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Will Hernandez is the baby. This guy, he looks like

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a baby. This guy is a starter and has been

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a starter and the National Football League for a long

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>time now going into his fifth This is a veteran.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>This is a hardcore veteran going into his fifth year

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>right now. And I like the offensive line now that

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Rodney Hudson of course has come back, and we'll see

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>how it goes. But over the last two years, there's

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>not a position room on the Arizona Cardinals roster that

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>has been attacked and much maligned more then the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>And man, I'll tell you what it's just not the

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>case now. Injuries last year, when Rodney Hudson in particular

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>went down, yeah that was bad. It was not great.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>The end of the season, yeah it was bad. They

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>had some really really bad games, in particular against the

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Rams the last couple of time they played the Rams, Pauli.

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But having said that, overall, once again, I think this

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to be an above average offensive line for

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals. Well, and if you want to talk about injuries,

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll go all the way back to Justin Murray early

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in September last year, because right guard was a liability

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty much all season, especially against Aaron Donald. And so

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it's no fluke that they went out and got Will Hernandez.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Will Hernandez has every reason to

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>be mighty motivated this year. He's on a one year contract.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Is Pro Football Rating right? Pro Football Focus rating went

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>down every single year of his career. He said his

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>best season and he agrees was his rookie year. And

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>will also tell you there was a lot of Sean

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Cougler on that tape. Was his college coach. So he

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>came here for a reason. He didn't break the bank

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>coming here. So look, there's a lot on the line

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>for Will Hernandez on both parties because the Cardinals that

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was a liability last year that particular position. So if

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the starters are set, really the question starting with this

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>game tomorrow night is okay, who's going to full out

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the room. As Justin Peuse said recently,

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it's been a competitive camp for the old line group.

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:29.239
<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of competition in our offensive line room.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And I always say us every year, the more competition

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you have, the better. We played fourteen different offensive lineman

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>last year, so you have to have guys ready to play.

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So having Harlow getting valuable reps, having Josh Jones getting

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>valuable reps, that's great for our team. You know what

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I love about a Paully the backups right now? What, Baul,

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>what are you laughing? Is that true? Fourteen different old

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>lineman played last year? Is that accurate? Yeah, Polly, Yeah, No,

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I was blown away when I heard that as well.

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm with you on that, Paul. That is an

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>incredible number right there. But once again, I like three

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>guys in particular, and I would say one of the

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>three they're interchangeable with another. But Sean Harlow of course

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>would be a guy that is more center than anything else,

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and I see him making this team. Justin Murray is

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<v Speaker 1>more guard, even though he's played tackle, and he's played

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.320
<v Speaker 1>it very very well. Remember the first year and Justin

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Murray was here twelve games Paul, he went out and

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>started for the Arizona Cardinals. Justin Murray is more guard

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>though than I see tackle. Josh Jones is more tackle

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 1>than I see as a guard. Yet at the same time,

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>we know that Justin Murray can play tackle and play guard,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.959
<v Speaker 1>and Josh Jones can play tackle of course and play guard.

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>But then there's also Coward, the new guy Paul, and

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>he's turning some heads. What was interesting is they actually

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 1>had him at tackle a little bit. Rashad Coward, who

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>has NFL experience. He started over a dozen games in

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>this league. So I think he's made enough of an

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>impression early in this camp that they're now seen, Okay,

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>what is his position flexibility? Because I think he came

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<v Speaker 1>in and he was touted as a backup guard or

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<v Speaker 1>interior offensive lineman. And then there's two rookies who are

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>going to get a long look in the preseason. Number

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>fifty four Lucida Smith, who's a guard by trade but

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>has played a lot of center out of necessity without

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Rodney Hudson in this camp. And then Marquis says Lucida

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Smith is a sixth rounder. Marquis says, the seventh rounder

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>out of Oklahoma. The rep on Marquis Hays is he

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<v Speaker 1>has a bit of nasty in him as well. And

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm guests and Wolf, I mean, you've watched a lot

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line. Sean Coogler is gonna have an

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.720
<v Speaker 1>eye in those two rookies in this game. Yeah, there's

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. Probably they're gonna get an awful lot of

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>reps right now. And again, you got to remember the

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 1>practice squad. I think they're gonna keep nine, that's what

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think. I think they'll keep nine players on the

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty three. And I think we've already talked about those backups,

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>those four guys in particular right there. But I think,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>once again, with a practice squad, you can always keep ten, eleven,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>twelve offensive lineman. I've seen as many as twelve, if

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>in fact, you like some of these young guys right here.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna be very interesting to see the development

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>of Lucida Smith in particular, there's a guy that I

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 1>think his future is center in the National Football League,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>not guard. I think it's more center, Pauliny. It's because

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of his anchor. Man, he's a Paul. He's got an

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>anchor right now, He's gonna sit that thing down. And

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>when he sits that thing down, man, you're not gonna

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>move him very much. How about you know Benjamin saying

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that ever since his ASU days, that he likes to

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>go into the offensive line room and watch film with

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the offensive lineman, that it helps him as a running

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>back to see reads and play quick Have you ever

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>heard of that before? Wolf is a guy who spent

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of years in a running back room. Yeah,

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, Paully, No, I would go in and watch

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tape in terms of protection with the

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. I did that a lot as a matter

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>of fact, Polly. But in terms of a running back

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 1>going in and looking at some of the synergy between

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line and a running back in terms of

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>running the ball, I've never heard that before. That was interesting. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Slash season. All right, let's name some names and numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's worth watching Friday night in Cincinnati. That is next

0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>on The Big Red Rage presented by Satan bourd In.

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert hands it off, no running room, off the right

0:37:30.239 --> 0:37:32.839
<v Speaker 1>side and back of loss up two on the play.

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Saban Collins the first guy there, and that is a

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>big man coming down from the week's side, shooting the gap.

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Saban Collins again throws over the middle, tipped into the

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>air and in complained he was going for his tight

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>end pass was off the mark. Xavan Collins had coverage

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that time, and it's fourth down. Saban Collins bats that

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>ball into the air with all of that great line

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>use check in motion. It is a corner back dropped

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle. Lance's head drives the legs forward, Gonna be close.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>The forty nine ers are short. Saban Collins with the tackle.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Saban Collins, the rookie at two sixty playing downhill, came

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>in and laid some lumber. Baby. We started this edition

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Fording. Gilbert

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>talking with the green hat in Cam Turner co passing

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 1>game coordinator, quarterbacks coach. Now we're talking about the green

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>dot in a way. Will it be Savan Collins, Will

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it be a veteran like a Nick Migill. Will it

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>be a guy who figures to be on the field

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>for every single snap like a Jalen Thompson. Does that

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>make the most sense? Does it matter at all who

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>was wearing the green dot? When you consider last year

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Ron Wolfley that the world champion La Rams had at

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>least four, if not five, different defensive players over the

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 1>course of the season where the green dot communicating with

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinator on that side of them. Yeah, Paul,

0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>it is a great observation by you right there. You know,

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting because whoever's going to wear that green dot,

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, there's a lot of trust coming in from

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinator whoever that is to get the call right,

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the verbiage that goes with it. But

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 1>it was interesting. I was talking to Zaven Collins, just

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>having a conversation with him recently about that very thing,

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 1>and whether you're wearing the green dot or not. What

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I like is Zaven Collins is the one that is

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<v Speaker 1>making a lot of checks on the line of scrimmage,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>whether he's got the green dot or not making a

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of checks at the line, Paul and getting everyone

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>else lined up. I love that. That's good for him,

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and that speaks to some of the growth we're seeing

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>because honestly, if you would have had me guess, I

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>would have guessed the exact opposite, because you know, look

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to just repeat what the coach has told you via

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the headset isn't that big a deal. The real acumen

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and expertise comes in diagnosing quickly what an offense is

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 1>doing and then making those adjustments and getting into your

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>ten teammates right exactly right, Polly. So hopefully Zaven Collins

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely is growing in that regard because Paul, you got

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to be able to see it before you can think,

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and you got to be able to see it and

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>think before you can do. Does that make sense? And

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>for me, Zaven Collins is growing where he's seeing it

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>with his eyes and then he's thinking correctly. Now he's

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>just got to do, and that's what Friday Night is

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>all about. Go do, because you can have all the

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>size and the athleticism in the world, but if you're hesitant,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 1>then you're not going to be able to play that

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>seek and destroy type of football they need out of

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>their mic linebacker. There's a lot of guys who are

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>way past their time who stayed in the league for

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>a long time, Like remember Larry Foote. It's just because

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>he was always a step He might have been a step,

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he was a step slow, but he was always a

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>step ahead mentally of the offense because he knew where

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>to be and what hold a plug, etc. So you

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>have that, Okay, all eyes on Zaven Collins, no doubt

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. How about third round rookie My J. Sanders

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>off the edge. Here's outside linebackers coach Charlie Bullen on

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sea Report on what he wants to see

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>from My J. Sanders. He has lane quickness and flexibility,

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>he can bend on the edge. You know his thing

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>will be can he win with power? And I always

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>say you have to be able to win with power

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>in this league to win consistently. If you're a one

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>trick pony off the edge, the tackles can set for

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that play to it and just run you by. So

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to win with power. It

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:18.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be old school bull rush, head and hands.

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm stronger than you, but for someone like Maje. The

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>hope and thought is that he wins with speed on

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the edge, get some the lean and now he can

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>with angles and leverage and timing, can work some push

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>by power as opposed to just raw strength power. Yeah,

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.479
<v Speaker 1>I know Polly as sure Sanders and watching him, there's

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 1>no doubt it's a big topic with the Arizona Cardinals.

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>The edge and who's going to play on the edge

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and could this young guy Sanders, could he be responsible

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>for actually growing and developing and coming off the edge,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it. For me, I just want to

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>say quickly once again, the fact that Will Hernandez, Will Hernandez,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the brottom bull, Polly is going to get the opportunity

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to go out there, put the silks on and grease

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it up at right guard. That's what I want to say.

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to see how many reps, how many reps

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.240
<v Speaker 1>are they really going to give their starting right guard

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 1>even though he's new. I know they want to take

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>him for a test drive. I know they want to

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>see him on tape. How many reps are they going

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to give him? And for me, Polly, how many pancakes

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>does he get in those reps? And then of course

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a cornerback room coming full circle. Marco Wilson. We

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about him, Josh Jackson. Okay, what's he look And

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.760
<v Speaker 1>then there's the seventh round rookie out of Valdosta State,

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>six foot to Christian Matthew. And his name came up

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 1>when the media asked Cliff Kingsbury who he's looking forward

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to seeing on Friday Night. Christian Matthews the guy I

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>want to see play live. He's gotten better each day.

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Played at a small school, but has come in and

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>really been diligent and attacking our scheme and the work

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>ethic anything we asked him to do. If he's screwsinging up,

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>he gets right the next time. And so we'll see

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>how he responds when the lights are on. Paully, isn't

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.919
<v Speaker 1>he out of Valdosta State? Yep? Isn't he? Yes? Fall

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>yes about that, Polly, I mean, think about it. This

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 1>is the guy that was wearing mits? Was he not?

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>He was one of them? He was definitely one of

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>There were three guys at one point wearing mits because

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Cliff Kingsbury had enough of the corners holding his receivers.

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Not only is that a flag but it's disrupting a

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.919
<v Speaker 1>timing in the coach's offense, in his scheme. So yes,

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 1>they they were penalized accordingly. But that's you know, what

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you've seen in other camps as well. This is now

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a thing for dbs who are made to wear either

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the mits or you know, so to prevent the grabbing.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But look, as someone told me, he's so long at

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 1>six foot two, with such length that if he can

0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>just stay with a receiver, he's going to be in

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a position to make a play and and and just

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>swarm a receiver. Slight's intriguing as well. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>only other thing I'll say quickly about this, Polly, is

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>we're mentioning some of these guys. See these young guys

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>who not a lot of expectation has been put on him.

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you there's always a couple of rookies,

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>whether they're undrafted, free agents or draft picks wherever they

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>were drafted, that really shine in these preseason games in

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>training camp as well. That's gonna be interesting to watch.

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Who might that be, PAULI this year? Well, we heard

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Cam Turner right earlier and he was saying, like four

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 1>receivers you don't know who can break a tackle and

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>who can because you're not tackling to the ground in camp.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>So Greg Dortch's look great, Victor Bolton juniors look great,

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>But these guys are five seven, five foot eight? What

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>are they like? Games? Andy as a fella, Trace McSorley,

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Paul can't wait to see him and Jared Garantanos bog

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 1>in the second half. He's made some plays, big arm,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>big kids. So yeah, they're playing to watch on Friday

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.080
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