1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha. I'm welcome to Steph. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: I've never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: And we are back with aday a Monday, A Nonday. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: I put another and Monday together, So I just created 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: a new word. Maybe that's our new series word. 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 3: Wow, Samantha. Oh, I have learned new Star Wars knowledge. 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: The Star Wars days of the week. One of them 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: is Banundai Banundae. So you're close to I'm close. 9 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: So I'm calling this a Nonday, which is my Monday 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: mini because it's another Monday Mini. 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 4: A Monday MANI I like that, and we're coming. 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Back to me making all of my Monday Mine's like 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Samantha's social media corner, which I did. I feel like 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: that's my new thing now in which I just find 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: random posts and I'm like, yeah, we're gonna talk about 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: this because I find them fascinating. And also I have 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: a lot of questions and thoughts that I don't put 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 2: on social media myself because I am not articulate enough 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: to type it out on my phone. 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: I can't stand it. 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: I start to say, anyway, that's a whole different episode. 22 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: But I do need to put trigger warning content warning, 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: we are talking about sexual abuse, sexual harassment, we're talking 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: about all the violence against women type of things here. 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: We're not going into detail. I'm talking a little bit 26 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: of specifics and even like violence with animals. So put 27 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: that at the top. I know, intriguing, right. 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 4: Because honestly, my TikTok has. 29 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Been flooded with several things because the world is bad. 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: I think we had this conversation just with Bridget about 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: how all of social media does make me really really 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: really really really sad sometimes. Also, I did find a 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: new dog content where all they do I'm not really 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: sure the jeniter of the dog, but it's get types 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: of containers, brings it to its owner and then tries 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: to lay in it no matter how big or small, 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: and then falls out of it on purpose. It is 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: really proud of themselves. I really love that content anyway, 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: So that's the beginning. Enjoy is content that I have found. 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: But unfortunately the other side of that is there's a 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: viral video going around. I think it's I want to 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: say it's a YouTube video, I don't actually think it 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: originated with TikTok, and I was trying to find the 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: original video. 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: But of course my short search. I'm sure it would 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: be easy to find. I didn't. 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: It's essentially that whole situation where a person with a 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: mic goes randomly on the streets asking random questions to people. 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: So what billy on the streets has been doing? But 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: now it's everywhere and everyone does it, And sometimes you 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: have some really iconic answers, and sometimes you have really 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: problematic answers, and you start like, yeah, this is this 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: is society. But this one was asking people, specifically women, 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: would they rather be alone in the forest with a 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: bear or a man? And I have a feeling if 56 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: you're on social media at all, you know exactly what 57 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, because it's huge. But if you're any 58 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: and you're not on social media, you have no clue 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Nope, this was the topic of discussion. 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: When I said this to her, I just assumed she 62 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, of course. 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: She's like what what? Because I said bear man things, 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: she was like what. So I don't even know what 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: was going through your mind. I will say, in my searches, 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: when I was looking for like the original video, the 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: actual search results showed me that Chinese sun bears and 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: people talking about whether or not they thought it was 69 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: a man in a suit or actual yeah you know 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: what I'm talking about, which I have seen that that's 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: been a minute, but I was like, oh, that's funny. 72 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Those are the two results like. 73 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: It, but specifically about women being alone in the forest 74 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: with whether it was a bear or a man. Of course, 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot of discussion and a lot of talks, 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: and unsurprisingly, I think most women said bears and men 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: are unhappy. Of course, this is one of those situations, 78 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: not all men. Because there's also one new thing with 79 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: this of women asking their partners if their sys I guess, 80 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: or if they're in a heterosexual relationship. So we have 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: women with men asking them would you rather your daughter 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: be in the woods with a bear or a man? 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: And a chunk of them either have a lot of 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: questions or typically just like bear like straightforward, and then 85 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: when they are asked why, they'll be like, because I 86 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: don't want my daughter to go through some of the 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: things that they could go through with men, essentially, and 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: so so back and forth about all this. 89 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: But you have a chunk of men sitting there going. 90 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: That's so ridiculous, literally trying to say all these scientific 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: and I'm putting this in quotes facts about what bears 92 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: can do to people and this is dumb and how 93 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: would women even survive that this is someone one of 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: the commenters said brain rods and one of them said 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: internet rot and they just need to get off the 96 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: internet because they don't understand. And then at one point 97 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, and if they were put in 98 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: a room where it'd be with just a bear or 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: with a man, like having these scenarios just go completely 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: out of whack and getting upset that women are saying bears. 101 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: And even in the interview you have the women saying, well, 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: let me ask these questions and then just any depth 103 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: say yeah, bear bear, And of course we have this conversation. 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Some of the reasons that we have said we being 105 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: women or marginalized people are saying, is bears attack out 106 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: of hunger or fear or protection. And this is from 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: what I gather, Like, so you know kind of what 108 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: to expect. So yes, you may die, you may die, 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: But the other thing is, but you also know that 110 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: you're just gonna die, Like that's not that's it, You're not. 111 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you may be broken, you may go through 112 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: some things, for sure, but like as where men are torturing, 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: sexually violating and maybe taking pictures and posting, like, you know, 114 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 2: the level of public humiliation, as well as a fact 115 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: that for bears, like you're probably gonna get more sympathy 116 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: from a bear attack than being attacked by a man. 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: Or you're also more likely going to be believed if 118 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: you're attacked by a bear rather than a man or 119 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: you don't have to be publicly humiliated to tell your 120 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: story and petrified of retaliation of some sorts. And I 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: find that fascinating in that conversation because men are like, 122 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: but no, this is what happens to you. They don't 123 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: just they do bad things to your body too. One 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: dude just went as far as to say, like, oh, 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: you think men will violate your body, Bears do too. 126 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: Bears hump trees, they'll hump you. And I'm like, can 127 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 2: you name a case, Like, I'm sure maybe weird, weird 128 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: things have happened, so I'm not completely disregarding, but like 129 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: the amount of times that have happened, can you tell me? 130 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: Of course that's not a thing. 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: And then yeah, one of the reasons that women said 132 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: they were more scared of men is because if they 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: are rejected, if they felt like people were insulting them 134 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: or threatening them, or because they just don't like women 135 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: or anyone different from them. The example of the man 136 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: randomly punching women on the streets of New York for 137 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: no damn reason, literally seeing them on their phone just 138 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: side to punch them, or and or just because they 139 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: can literally just saying I just wanted to see if 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: I could again. I'm trying to really really think about 141 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: why the men are so angry in this situation. It's 142 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: one of those things in the level of like you're 143 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: getting defensive over something that either is really true true 144 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: and you're angry about it because you know that you're 145 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: that person that they're talking about, or this is that 146 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: whole alpha level of connection of like, well, you know, 147 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: bears and only men can be really fighting. Like I 148 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: don't know if that revenant has any kind of like 149 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: thought process, you know, Like in my mind, I'm trying 150 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: to really rationalize why they are so angry and why 151 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: they feel the need to like no, you're wrong, No 152 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: you're wrong to a hypothetical question that really is just 153 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 2: about society, right, Like I'm thinking, is this somehow challenging 154 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: men that men say. If men say I'm afraid of 155 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: a bear and a woman says I would rather be 156 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: around a bear, and somehow challenges their masculinity somehow. Yeah, 157 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: like I'm trying to go down that route. I think 158 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to sit quietly for that, and I 159 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: don't have the patience. Maybe I really do have brain rot. 160 00:08:54,280 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: To go down that road. 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: Of course, this came back to me thinking about the 162 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: statistics that we all know and we haven't checked up 163 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: on recently because I feel like things are getting worse. 164 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: But of course we know that the statistics are going higher. 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: Apparently to the ed app dot com they talked about 166 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, there's a sexual assault occurs every 167 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: ninety three seconds in the United States. I think that's 168 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: about the same number as it has been. We know 169 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: that in twenty twenty three, eighty one percent of women 170 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: have a face sexual harassment in their life. Forty three 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: percent of men have a face sexual harassment in their life. 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: We also know that a majority of them don't report, 173 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: especially in workplaces, and the few that have reported now 174 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: maybe fifteen percent have something some kind of consequence. Weinstein 175 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 2: his case just got overturned. 176 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: In New York. 177 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: I will say Annie, I verbally like I outright cursed 178 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: at my phone and like threw it because I am 179 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: so damn angry. Of course, apparently this is going to 180 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: a new retrial, and the California cases are still in place, 181 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: and so he's still locked up for like the twelve years, 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: sixteen years, so he's still in jail. He's still locked up. 183 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: So that's the good news in this. But the level 184 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: of anger I have about that, I feel like that 185 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: is the new all men. You know how women will respond, Yeah, 186 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: not all men, but all men is now the and 187 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: the bears. I would rather be with bears. That's the 188 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: new response to this. And that's kind of that same level. 189 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: There has an alarmingly high uptick of family annihilation cases recently, 190 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: and I'm actually going to come back. We're actually going 191 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: to come back and do an episode about this because 192 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: I've very deeply disturbed by what is happening with this. 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: And maybe it's because social media is highlighting a lot more, 194 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: but I did look it up and in the last 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: two years it has says there there is an uptick 196 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: of men killing off their entire family for quote unquote 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: either domestic violence, reasons, rejection reasons, whatever, like so many reasons, 198 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: and I want to come and visit that there might. 199 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: Be in no answers. 200 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: It may be the same conversation we had when we 201 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: talked about true crime because we didn't build a few statistics 202 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: in there. But also we also know that there's been 203 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: an uptick of women killing their children as well in themselves. 204 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: So it's it's I'm very interested in what's going on. 205 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: I do want to just have this conversation, but things 206 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: like this is what it's like, the bear versus man. 207 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: There's statistics of transgender and queer assaults have always been 208 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 2: pretty high. 209 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: We know this. 210 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: We know that at least forty seven percent of transgender 211 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: people have faced some kind of sexual assault. Forty six 212 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: percent of bisexual women have dealt with a sexual assault. 213 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: We know that people who are disabled have been at 214 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: risk seven times more than any other group of people 215 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: for sexual assault and harassment. And then we talked about 216 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: the fact that the lifetime cost of each survivor of 217 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: rape is around over about one hundred and twenty two 218 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars one hundred and twenty two to one hundred 219 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: and twenty three thousand dollars in their lifetime, and the 220 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: fact that there's no compensation for that, or rarely any 221 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: compensation for that. 222 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: Hurts hurts a lot. 223 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: And when I was looking up all this conversation, I 224 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: did try to see if there was anything in the 225 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: news or anybody was talking about it outside of TikTok 226 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: or any viral conversations. And we have one columnists from 227 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: iNews dot co dot uk. 228 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: Her name is Kate. 229 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Lister, and she had some thoughts about it, and I 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: wanted to read a little bit from her article. She 231 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: talks about the statistics of why maybe women are saying bears, 232 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: and so she says, let's start with the bears. Bear 233 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: attacks are highly sensationalized but rare. According to research published 234 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: in the Nature Journal, there are around forty brown bear 235 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: attacks on humans worldwide each year, and most of these 236 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: are when the bear feels threatened. Of these forty attacks, 237 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: fourteen point three percent were fatal. So I'm like, that's 238 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: just significantly low, anybody, Okay. Between eighteen seventy and twenty fourteen, 239 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: there were seventy three attacks worldwide on humans by wild 240 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: polar bears, twenty of which were fatal. And that's the 241 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: one bear that I hear people talking about being like, oh, 242 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: they're the most dangerous the polar bears. 243 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 4: So there's that. 244 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 2: Black bears attack and kill around one human per year 245 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: in America, and because of humans in crouching on their territories, 246 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 2: black bear attacks are on the rise in Japan. 247 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: In crouching on the territories. 248 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: Bears generally leave humans alone and will alter their behavior 249 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: to avoid us where possible. In fact, we pose far 250 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: greater danger to them than other way around. According to 251 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: Western Wildlife Outreach, fifty thousand black bears are legally hunted 252 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: in North America each year alone, while over eight hundred 253 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: polar bears are killed by humans every year. I don't 254 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: know if anyone is asking the bears who they would 255 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: rather be stuck in the force with, but I'm pretty 256 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: sure they wouldn't choose the man either. So I was like, yeah, absolutely, 257 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: as in fact, I saw an acquaintance of mine go 258 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: go legally hunt black bears in North Carolina and. 259 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: It goes on. 260 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Now for the men, male violence against women is incredibly 261 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: common and not sense sectional line nearly enough. On average, 262 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: two women per week are murdered by their partner or 263 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: ex partner. In the UK, according to the UN, fifty 264 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: five percent of all female homicide worldwide are committed by 265 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: intimate partners or other family members, at a rate of 266 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: five deaths every single hour. Their research also found that 267 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: most violence against women is perpetrated by current or former 268 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: husbands or intimate partners. More than six hundred and forty million, 269 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: or twenty six percent of women aged fifteen and older, 270 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: have been subjected to intimate partner violence. I feel like 271 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: that should be enough set this whole level. And I 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: will say this, the few encounters because I live in 273 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: the mountains of North Georgia that I've had of bears, 274 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: they are just as scared of me as I was 275 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: of them, and me yelling at them was enough for 276 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: them to run away. As where if we were yelling 277 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: at men. Hmm, guarantee that same situation would not happen. 278 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, because I feel like it's completely accurate 279 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: that the bear attack is so sensationalized. And I do 280 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: think you're onto something with the because I feel like, 281 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: for kind of the hunter type men, the bear is 282 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: like your top predator and so for people to say, okay, 283 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: I'd rather be with the bear. It makes complete sense 284 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: to me that men would be like, well, actually bears 285 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: are really really dangerous, well like totally missing the point. 286 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: Whereas a lot of I would say, largely women answering this, 287 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 3: who said the bear I actually reasoned out as you said, 288 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: Like they asked questions like okay, no, the bear, so 289 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: they kind of like really thinking it through and knowing 290 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: these dangers, whereas it seems the men just went right 291 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: to ignore why they would say that you're wrong because 292 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: I know about bears, right, I mean, it. 293 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: Really feels like an office episode, yes about the black bear, 294 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: right to the point that you just sit there and 295 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: go literally one one, one person a year, like I 296 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: think at one point, someone else's statistics of like fifteen 297 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: people at most of in a year, and then the 298 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: amount of women that have died at the hands of 299 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: their partner is literally spaced out in a single day 300 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, it's like the amount of statistics and 301 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: the fact that men are so threatened by this question 302 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: yeah to the again like I don't know why this 303 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: is a go to for so many insecure men, is yeah, 304 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: and then ask them for help for what. 305 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 4: Help from other men? 306 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: It's a very It's like a very dismissive thing too, 307 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: because it's like essentially trying to dismiss why women would 308 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: say that, as in, you can't handle you don't know fear, 309 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: you don't know bears, right, But I wonder how much 310 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: of it is like they feel threatened to by Well, 311 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 3: if you're living with the fear of the bear every day, 312 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: then you must. 313 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: Be stronger than I thought. 314 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 5: Ladies, here's a statistic, and I I just needed to know. 315 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: I needed to know. 316 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: More men have been killed by ibears and women and 317 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: I just because like, so here's one, and I don't 318 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: know how outdated. 319 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: Oh, this is twenty sixteen. 320 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: So this is a Vox article in twenty sixteen about 321 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: attacks involving grizzly bears and occurring during summer. And it's 322 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: among fatal bear attack victims. They average age was thirty seven. 323 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 2: Of these victims, twenty one were female and fifty were male. 324 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: And it happened in deep backcountries with hobbies dominated by men. 325 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: So I don't because it's there in their space. So 326 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: that's a whole different conversation. But I did wonder, like, 327 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: in like campy situations, whether like who are the ones 328 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: going to antagonize the bear versus who are not. I 329 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: did see a video also of this group of people 330 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: and there were several young women getting a cub out 331 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: of the tree that they just wanted to cuddle, and 332 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: they're like, that is illegal. 333 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: That's dangerous, that is dangerous. 334 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: I think people were in so upset and I'm like, yeah, right, Li, 335 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: so lee the bears alone, dude, let them be. Yeah, 336 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: when they come into our Twitter territory and go go off. 337 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: They have had some cocaine apparently that could be a thing. 338 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: Can be. 339 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: That's also pretty rare, but can be. 340 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: I had to throw that in for a reference. 341 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Sound that disheartening, Uh, that this is that deep of 342 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: a conversation, and that the fallout as men being upset 343 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: and I think there are some human. 344 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: Some girls and you're like, oh, that's not true. I wouldn't. 345 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: I wouldn't pick a bear because then they like result too, 346 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: Like I would definitely pick. 347 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: Ryan Gosling over a bear. Who wouldn't Just kidding. 348 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 3: Well, again, that's when you ask the questions. But when 349 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: it's like just some random man. 350 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: It's a strange person I have never met, and it's 351 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: just a dude that's just chilling and they're staring at me, 352 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: and I see it like, if I see a bear 353 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 2: and a man in the same distance, I'm not going 354 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: towards either one of them. 355 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: To back out. 356 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying from both of you, but if you're 357 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: telling me where in the woods and like, yeah, I 358 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: would rather like be able to play dead with a 359 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: bear hopefully, versus trying to run from a man m 360 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: hm and hide. 361 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: I've seen those horror movies. 362 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: Me too, you know I have. Yeah. Once I I 363 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: was hiking. 364 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: Alone and I was in a very remote place and 365 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: it was in North Georgia, and I saw a bear 366 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: and I was nervous, but I just it's like, okay, 367 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: just same, keep going. Then I saw a man and 368 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: he was just standing there in a very awkward pose 369 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: and he was stuck still and you just like watched 370 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 3: me go by, and I was more scared of him, 371 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 3: for sure. It rattled me. Like the bear. I was like, okay, 372 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like try to move on and be 373 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: cool and. 374 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 4: Not don't panic, don't look at it. 375 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: Just just go. And then after I couldn't see it, 376 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't hear it. I was like, okay, I'm good. 377 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: But that man was I was like, I could be 378 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: so far from him and he could shoot me. 379 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't know what he was doing, but he 380 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: was just it was creepy. 381 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: Right, No, that's absolutely like, and when you hear a 382 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: rustling in the woods, I'm more scared that it's going 383 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: to be a man giant watching me, or or a 384 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: wild boars the mountains. They're pretty faster, they'll get you. 385 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's the thing though, was like, I am, 386 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to mess with bears. Bears scary, right, 387 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: But I also I think that's kind of the point 388 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: is that if that's true, Yeah, then if the man 389 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: is scarier the random man. 390 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 2: Right, And again a lot of them are like, yeah, 391 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: I could die either way, but I would rather be 392 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: killed by a bear versus a man. 393 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that scenario. 394 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: That's that conversation, like what's going to happen, I mean, 395 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: and as what's happened in Wisconsin, which I believe Shade 396 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: Robinson met a dude on tender and he dismembered her 397 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: and killed her with initial me and there's a conversation 398 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: about the fact that he may have killed other black 399 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: women and no one's caring, no one, no one until 400 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: like it came out like in a bigger conversation, no 401 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: one really said much, and it's not a very hyped case, 402 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: and like those are the situations like yeah, she took 403 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: a chance on meeting a dude in public, I belief 404 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 2: and died, and that we know more and more and 405 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: more of those cases, and it's kind of like we 406 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: this is that conversation that we're having of like what 407 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: did a poor woman? And if you've listened to true 408 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: crimes and so many things where they're like, you know, 409 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 2: like people are women are petrified. I you know, marginalized 410 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: people are super petrified about what's out there and who's 411 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: going to get them. And it's more often that they're 412 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: more afraid of a human being than of all the 413 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: creatures out there, except for the deep sea. Like if 414 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: I go into deep sea, then maybe I'll be more scared. 415 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: Deep sea is scary, so scary. 416 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that was an important conversation and 417 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm I hate that this is a constant turnaround conversation 418 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: that I'm like wow, wow, like you just you refuse 419 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: to get it. 420 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because I do feel that so many times 421 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: and most of my male friends have been very cool 422 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 3: about it, but you've just mentioned something and they'll be 423 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: like what really, Like, yep, that's just my existence. And 424 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: I feel like so many of these things just showcase 425 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 3: over and over again that. 426 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: We are. 427 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: We're here living in different worlds. We've got a long 428 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: ready to go. 429 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: And then the amount of men who are getting boosted 430 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: because they just said, oh yeah bear because they quote 431 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: unquote get it. But this is minimum, this is this 432 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 2: is a minimum. Yeah, but I get while we're celebrating 433 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: because this minimum is really high compared to the rest 434 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: of the average here. 435 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 4: It is. 436 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: It is. 437 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunate because, like you said, it's also Yeah, 438 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: when a bear attack happens, you hear so much about it. 439 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: But every day to every day inundated with violence against women, it's. 440 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: Like, okay, yeah, women start wearing these clothings. Thanks, don't 441 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 4: go out alone? 442 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: Yes, oh god, well, I did not know this is 443 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: what we would be talking about to day. You well, dae, Yeah, 444 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 3: thank you for keeping me up to date on these 445 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: trends that I don't know about. 446 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 6: That now is gonna go away. Tiktook us forever, goal 447 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 6: got a year, Yeah, one year. So listeners. If you 448 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: have any thoughts about this, please let us know. 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