WEBVTT - Clearing the Air

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<v Speaker 1>Find Down and radio podcast. What Up, Sarah? What? I

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<v Speaker 1>just showed Mike the video? What video of Justin? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to talk about it and he should?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, stop save it. I feel like we have

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<v Speaker 1>to make shirts that say save it because we save everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So real time is this? Is this like big news

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<v Speaker 1>right in the social media world right now? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're trying to downplay it. Where is he at?

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<v Speaker 1>He was on location filming, sorry to catch everyone up,

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<v Speaker 1>justin Timberlake. There was a video of him and his

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<v Speaker 1>co star and some other random lady who dragged him out.

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<v Speaker 1>He was hammered. And I get and I've learned this

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<v Speaker 1>from Sarah because Sarah, you texted me and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see this Justin? Yeah? Okay, so continue what

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<v Speaker 1>what happened? It's just a video of him on the

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<v Speaker 1>balcony in New Orleans and he's like visibly visibly um

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<v Speaker 1>been overserved and he's getting a little comfy with not

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. My thing too, is like for what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like watching it and he's you know, he's sitting back.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I were to have my hand like not

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<v Speaker 1>just on the tip of his kneecap or not my

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<v Speaker 1>husband's kneecap, not just it wasn't on the tip here,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like right past the kneecap, were getting close

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<v Speaker 1>of the hand, like if my hand was just chilling,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just bless his come up with the name, what

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<v Speaker 1>guy do we know? That's okay? Kevin McGarry, who we

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<v Speaker 1>love He's been my husband in a few movies. If

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<v Speaker 1>I was if you saw a video of me saying,

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<v Speaker 1>who we love Kevin, he's amazing, You're like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw me having a whole like holding his leg like that,

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<v Speaker 1>would you be okay with that video? I didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>her like have her No, video was just a snippet.

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<v Speaker 1>There are pictures of them holding hands under the table,

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<v Speaker 1>like there are pictures of them like interlocked hands like

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<v Speaker 1>um like this, you know, like a And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I'll say that I I hold hands, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned my lesson with that. But I have held

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<v Speaker 1>hands with people that weren't my partner, not what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with you, not since you. But that's a lesson that

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned from me. I love to hold hands. Catherine,

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<v Speaker 1>who's listening to this, she knows I'm always trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hold her hands. I love holding hands. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>fun and I would hold like I would I I

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<v Speaker 1>held Kevin's hand, I think, not like lan Set never mind,

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<v Speaker 1>let me trying to think. Um, I would hold like

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<v Speaker 1>my guitar players hands like maybe, but again it was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it's wrong because it's just it's just wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just weird, and like it's because of them are odd,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just odd. Well, and it's just because again

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're putting yourself in a situation of basically like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're inviting the next step if there's a next step,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen. Yeah. The only thing I'll say, just from

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<v Speaker 1>watching the video again, I didn't see like the pictures

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, Sarah. Just from watching the video, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see it would holding my hand like that on

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<v Speaker 1>someone's leg. No. But what I'm saying is we've all

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<v Speaker 1>been not we all because Jane has never been drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>But like for example of this, look at right there

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<v Speaker 1>hanging like that, Okay, Janna showing me the picture right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean her forearms on his leg like her hands,

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<v Speaker 1>not like I'm not saying, I'm not saying I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think it's a little fishy. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that you can see him as physically impearance.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what. But just listen to me for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had those moments, Sarah, myself in the US of

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<v Speaker 1>the world except for Jana, have at this moment where

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<v Speaker 1>you just a little too lushy, right, You're just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, hey, I love you, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put your hand on a on a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>or a guy friend. You just like he was the

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<v Speaker 1>best You're my best friend. I love you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and just like a little overly affectionate. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that was happening in that video, but just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how drunk he was. Who knows what was being said,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows the story, And all I'm saying is there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a room somewhere in there for

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<v Speaker 1>that that was most compta Kevin's hand at a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be upset, Well, that's just weird. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's crossing a line. But if I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>if I came in, and I would be upset if

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<v Speaker 1>you were holding Sarah's hand and bar when I wasn't there,

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<v Speaker 1>I would holding my hand Okay, let me phrase this though.

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<v Speaker 1>If I watched him a bar and I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>and Kevin, and I saw Kevin like with his arm

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<v Speaker 1>around you, that's different. But I don't think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>not confirming if Jessica um his wife, even knows who

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<v Speaker 1>this girl is. So like you're you're you're saying like

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of my friends. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>woman is their friend. Let's just say it's a random

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<v Speaker 1>actor that i'm I'm acting with, and mostly pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>me holding his hand, you're not a chance. I'm mostly

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<v Speaker 1>I would mostly be concerned at how drunk he was

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<v Speaker 1>because that just did not look right. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>not assuming that Jessica doesn't know who she is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I'm saying. Okay, so I think, okay, So if

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<v Speaker 1>it was someone that you didn't know, you'd be upset.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was holding his hand or if I was

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<v Speaker 1>touching his leg like that, you'd be upset. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone that we know, I'm allowed to do that

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<v Speaker 1>not that allowed to But again, I can understand how

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<v Speaker 1>how people are, just like like if you walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and I had my like, my arm around Sarah for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, like and I was like town or something

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<v Speaker 1>funny or whatever, and like that was it not like

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<v Speaker 1>we're sitting there and I like I have my arm

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<v Speaker 1>like around her back forge they said they they came

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<v Speaker 1>out today and said, oh they're like brother and sister.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you Tay and a sister are not touching

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<v Speaker 1>each other like that. So that's it's just all odd,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just odd. Well, Jessica Bill has an air

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<v Speaker 1>tight Uh yeah, basically because I think there might have

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<v Speaker 1>been some cheating before, because I know in her marital stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's if if basically he cheats like she gets everything. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not forget let's go back a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I could be wrong. I'll let me pull it

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<v Speaker 1>up on us weekly, but I'm pretty sure's I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure he cheated on Brittany and she cheated on him

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but she really got the brunt of it

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, that's just more fun to blame her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm pretty sure he cheated on Jessica before they

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<v Speaker 1>were married. So well, yeah, that was yeah, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>because they broke up I think because of it. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and which adds again, you're putting yourself in a position,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's so like things that I've learned,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know, I cannot read lines with an acting

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<v Speaker 1>person in the hotel room or go out one on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's not healthy. It's not it doesn't it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up bad in most certain most most. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if Kevin came over again, it's different because I know him.

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<v Speaker 1>You you trust him, we know him together. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it's someone you know, I booked a movie with some

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<v Speaker 1>guy that we don't we both don't know, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I'm like, yeah, he's he's over. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you see photos of us that come out and

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<v Speaker 1>we're holding hands and I'm on my hand is on

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<v Speaker 1>his leg. For one second that you would be fine

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<v Speaker 1>with that all I was like, not one bit, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what would you do, Sarah. Let me just

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<v Speaker 1>make it clear. They said, oh, they're friends, they were

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<v Speaker 1>just having fun. If that's what having friends and fun is,

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<v Speaker 1>T will be having none of it because that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, yeah, oh yeah, I know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just we had to bring that up first, because Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your thoughts? Since you're you know, older and

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<v Speaker 1>wiser than all, I'm blown away by all this stuff. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because when I first heard about it and I heard this,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard the I guess I heard it on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio because I heard about it, and then I heard

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<v Speaker 1>the statement that was given, and I thought, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst statement I can imagine them giving. I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get more creative, Like they're running lines, they're in character. Character.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you didn't see they can't like something a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more creative? But then you look at the video

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<v Speaker 1>and he's so hammered that I realized none of those

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<v Speaker 1>excuses would have felt like I was watching a movie

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching him, how how um not well

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<v Speaker 1>he was? Because I was like, is he like, damn

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<v Speaker 1>joking to be drunk? If that's he was, he was

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<v Speaker 1>nearly coma to us. So married people need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a limit when they're drinking without their spouse. They just

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<v Speaker 1>have to. I know it's too far to say they

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't drink without their spouse. That's a little bit too

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<v Speaker 1>out there, a little too Mike Pens for everybody, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you do need to have a cap because

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<v Speaker 1>you should never be in that condition. Because he could

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<v Speaker 1>have done anything, he wouldn't remember it. The next day exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I looked up her the prenup, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly what we thought it was. It says here

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<v Speaker 1>that in the prenup, if he cheats on her, he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to pay her five hundred thousand dollars. He's worth

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty million dollars. That seems like not a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal for Jessica Bee. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>asked for a lot more than that. I also think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first um indication and a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half from now when they announced their split, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll remember this moment. I couldn't agree with you more. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hope that they don't, because let's hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know, they can work through this. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who the lady dragging his drunk but

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<v Speaker 1>out of the bar was the other lady? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>said it was with her that looked like like a handler. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a PR person or someone on his team. If

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the video, there's certain parts where there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a security looking type guy blocking them, so like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really quite see him. So like, well, bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>is as we like to go full circle, right sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Mark said, if you're married, you shouldn't be having

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<v Speaker 1>that much at a bar, especially without your spouse present,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably best not to be holding Yeah, not your

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<v Speaker 1>spouse's hand and have someone else be grabbing you in touch.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's on her, right because he's so blitz he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know whose hand he was holding. That's on her.

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<v Speaker 1>She needs in the Yeah, I wouldn't put the blat

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe something else happened before. So it's that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like she can do that. This is ongoing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So I wouldn't want to put the blame

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<v Speaker 1>just on her because she probably feels like she can

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<v Speaker 1>do that to him. Oh boy, that's true. Blame on her.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just saying that there takes two to tango. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I even used the word blame, and I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have. That was the wrong word to use. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like she should be more aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>public nature of what she was doing. Nobody's evening about them,

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<v Speaker 1>but time out though not to be This is just

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<v Speaker 1>me calling. You know, who is she? Oh, she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>a co star in the in the film he's doing right,

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<v Speaker 1>But is she very well known? I mean, is she

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<v Speaker 1>not to me? Not to me? I'm just saying, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she was doing trying to advance her career too. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, do you think people actually have

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<v Speaker 1>that one percent? Sucks? But if that's the case, it's just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with all the me too stuff, it just

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<v Speaker 1>makes you question, that's all. I'm confused. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got lost like two minutes ago. Basically, was she being

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunistic oh, because like her pictures are being taken

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<v Speaker 1>and this will gain her following. That's interesting. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the movie that I'm just I just like to play

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's advocate. So here we go with the comments. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, and I'm I'm actually on her side.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she when I'm just saying, I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but she shouldn't have been touching him if

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<v Speaker 1>he's a veried man like that. Both parties are wrong anyways. Jessica, Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a bad bitch and I'm here for her lesson learns.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get drunk and go to a bar, hold hands

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<v Speaker 1>and get hands in New Orleans. And I honestly I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to wrap this up, but like Jessica Bielle,

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<v Speaker 1>like she could beat you up, like she's fit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she can mess you up. Like, I feel like she's

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<v Speaker 1>a strong. She seems like a real strong woman. I

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<v Speaker 1>think i'd be terrified of her if she seen her angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Why I don't know. Well, I mean she's just like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, she's she's strong, she works out, she's built,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she's powerful, you know. I just I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like she could get me. Oh a woman, watch out here,

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<v Speaker 1>like if Sara. If Sarah tried to get me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kind of laugh, Oh no, you would not. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know her very well, come on to me, I would, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens and I get me? Are you scared of me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ten years old. Yeah. Anyways, that's how we started

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<v Speaker 1>the show today. So next week on the pop Culture podcast. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had just come home from getting my

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<v Speaker 1>massive panic. Only thought about pulling over once, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I called. I was on the phone, was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, um mo, on my way back

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. It's gonna be fun. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>So last week, you know, we did the songs we

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<v Speaker 1>talked by the way, Sarah was mortified because she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that I sang Taylor Swift, Like why was

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<v Speaker 1>I singing I don't want underd Do you forget that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people listen to this? Yeah? Actually I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that lot of people were like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a song like, oh my god, remember high school?

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<v Speaker 1>And like, yeah, okay, let's not Did anyone gets through Janna, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. No, but you told me that

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<v Speaker 1>people were texting you. I think one person, no one.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my friends is like, hey, is that who

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about? And I said yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 1>like multiple d ms with like this man's name, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what's happening like And then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh do people now? People guessed it on my end.

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<v Speaker 1>So along with that time, I just had me thinking

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<v Speaker 1>along with that topic and is there and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to we don't have to go in depth about

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe something food for thought. Is there anyone out

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<v Speaker 1>there like in your life that basically you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make amends to, you know what I mean, like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that sticks. No, just had me thinking about it. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you go first, honey, No we don't. I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying we don't have to say names. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those things that had me thinking and no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go first, because no, you can go first.

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<v Speaker 1>We made you want to go first last time. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the appropriate um boundaries within that, like making amends to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who do you want to make amends too? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of my step work anyway. Yes, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice step. So but I'm just saying I didn't. There's

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<v Speaker 1>sure there's people in my past in life. Are you saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there someone that we would want to make amends

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<v Speaker 1>to romantically that like now that we're all in other

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<v Speaker 1>partnerships that it's not like respectful to make amends or

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<v Speaker 1>just anyone in general. Anyone in general. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>a past relationship, it could be a friend, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be a family member, someone you have wronged in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>someone you have wronged, or someone that you've had a

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<v Speaker 1>falling out with, or basically to own your part. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, that's a good question. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, how many people have wronged meat? No? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like all the people that I felt I've

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<v Speaker 1>wronged or I don't really like wrong but the people

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<v Speaker 1>I've had falling out with, I feel like we've mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe I'm kind of our swept on it,

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<v Speaker 1>not like swept under the rug, but maybe kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dealt like I had. I'm trying to think. This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard, like do either of you have someone

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<v Speaker 1>in mine? Because I'm like kind of I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Michael does. He just doesn't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>because it might be a pass from mentor too sure.

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<v Speaker 1>There's definitely people in my past that, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>back and I wasn't the greatest person, and I who

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<v Speaker 1>I am now would love to apologize for that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't have people like that that you know to

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<v Speaker 1>go back because no one owns their stuff when they're

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<v Speaker 1>in those that kind of age age like early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>mid twenty I means all that no one owns it.

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<v Speaker 1>But even for me, it's like I have a family member,

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle, that I had a falling out with that

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a whole wedding backstory and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But for me, you know, I held on and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one to hold onto grudges, but I held onto

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<v Speaker 1>it for a long time. I'm kind to the point

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<v Speaker 1>now where I'm like, you know what, enough about focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on what maybe he needs to own or what he

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<v Speaker 1>should apologize for. Maybe I just addressed it and say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I miss you and I'm sorry for this situation. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I just say something because it's I get so with

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that situation because I know how much that hurt you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get that, and I think that's really amazing

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to do that. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>what if he doesn't own the fact that he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have showed up and that was ridiculous because

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<v Speaker 1>you know those people they should not have been invited

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<v Speaker 1>because of what your list was, and like that was

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the fact that he didn't show up. We

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<v Speaker 1>told the story that bad. No, I'm just wondering, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the gist of it, without going into long details, is Janna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know at your wedding you have to draw the

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<v Speaker 1>line somewhere. Janna and I decided, based on the forces

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<v Speaker 1>in our family on both sides and all this, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to invite step cousins. Okay, so step cousins

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<v Speaker 1>were not blood related to, but related to via marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we had a handful on both sides, like

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<v Speaker 1>at least like probably a dozen between both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the family. So like, man, that's like at least one table,

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<v Speaker 1>if not more. So, like all right, we're gonna stop

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<v Speaker 1>at step cousins. And basically, you know, it caused a

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<v Speaker 1>riff of my uncle and his new wife and her

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<v Speaker 1>children from a previous marriage. And long story short, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end up coming. He said he was going to come.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I wouldn't miss this for the world. And

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what I told, and he didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>he maybe hung out with them one time. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met them. And again, like we we were paying for

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<v Speaker 1>our wedding. We it was like we had to draw

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, like eighty people I think was ours

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<v Speaker 1>our limit. And he didn't even know them, like he

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<v Speaker 1>met them once a couple of times, but not Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not like it was some I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not inviting some of my closest friends because we had

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<v Speaker 1>to draw the line. And or actually blood some blood relative.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying people I would have loved to have

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<v Speaker 1>had there, and even like family members, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved to have had certain family members there, and continued on,

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<v Speaker 1>like Natalie, you know, other people that I would have

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<v Speaker 1>loved to have had. But again, I'm like, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met them. He's he's out with them a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're older kids. So it's just we're like, like,

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the wife felt that she had to that they should

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>have been invited, and so she kind of said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not coming, yeah, and so he ended up not coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the wedding and I and what hurt for Mike

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<v Speaker 1>was because that was his closest family member and he

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<v Speaker 1>was you were so upset about it, and so the

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 1>fact that and I love your heart and you wanting

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to make that amends. But at the same time, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>is he not going to own up for the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that was a messed up? So how long? So what

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 1>was that? Five six years ago? It'll be five years.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think for me it's because I've held onto it

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, four plus years, and interactions between us

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and them have been very uncomfortable and very awkward and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the elephant in the room. And that's my

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>fault because I'm not. I don't. I don't like that

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 1>she did that to him. I think that's so wrong

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that she wanted to invite him, and honestly, because they do,

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to be at that wedding because sorry not

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<v Speaker 1>to call us, you know, not to call it what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But you know, Sarah, you're going through that

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I totally at the Gretzky wedding, totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was if he was married and whatever, if

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't them, they wouldn't have cared. It's just the truth.

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have It's the unfortunate thing about some people

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in our position of being known somehow that you unfortunately

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you get jade and kind of have to take that

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.720
<v Speaker 1>into consideration. It's like, what's someone's true motivation? So I

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>probably have not been the nice one. I think we

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>saw them at a football game of jobs, and you know,

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I probably wasn't nice to her. But I want to

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, that was rude. Will it hurt you because

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it hurt him, you know, and let you check that

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you carry that And so now I'm taking and I

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to not that that's just anyways. Yeah, sorry,

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but it's a very passionate about this too, because I

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>know I hurt you. I get I get where both

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 1>of you are coming from. Yeah. For me, I think

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm just finally to the point of, like, you know what,

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>even to answer your question, honey, even if he didn't

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 1>you stay back to me. You know what I told

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you I was going to be there. I wasn't there.

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Like, even if you didn't, I can't. I

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>can't take that one. It's just like what we talked about,

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>cleaning your shot out of the street, right. All I

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>can do is make my amends, even tho I didn't

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 1>do anything wrong, but just say just to just basically

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.159
<v Speaker 1>speak my truth and say, hey, just hurt me, I

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.320
<v Speaker 1>miss you. We're always really really really close. He was

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my closest relative outside to like my family out of

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>all my aunt uncle was like closest everything. And so

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>even if you don't think you're carrying it, you are.

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>And so for me, it's like I just kind of

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 1>want to like get the negative as selfish as it is,

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like I just kind of want the vibes out. So

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like if I know, I you know, ended it

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.399
<v Speaker 1>or pieced it up. It's like, okay the end. You know,

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>if he does and you have that same relationship with

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the other person doesn't clean clean their side of the street,

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's that's the question. I think. If they don't,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:33.440
<v Speaker 1>it's still that's sure, it won't be the same as

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>connected as you would hope it would be. But at

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>least I can be free of any grudge. And again,

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not one to hold grudge it, I'm really not.

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>But at least I can let go of my the

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>grudge I have against against him or the situation and

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>just let it go. You know what I think four

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and a half years ago it is. I do think

0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>that time it's like a blessing anti curse. But as

0:25:57.680 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>time goes on, you're kind of like, I want to

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:00.679
<v Speaker 1>be this mad because it really hurt me. But then

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you're also like, do I really care anymore? I'm kind

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>of over, you know, so I can see how, like,

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is the appropriate time to let something go?

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, I mean, even even when we're

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>discussing this, and and and if you out there listening,

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>anyone that's gone through their wedding and or playing currently

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>planning a wedding, and we understand, I mean, no one

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>goes through and plans it, Sarah and not has to

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>deal with some of this. And my parents said, my

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 1>parents are trying to like mitigate all of it and say, look,

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll pay for the extra because they knew we were

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>paying for our own wedding. We'll pay for the extra seats.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And we're like, it's not about the seats, it's about

0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the principle. We're like, it's not. No, it's not about that. Yeah,

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's like I trust me, I mean I yeah,

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like, it's not about you. It's one day. It's

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>not about you, right, But that's tough. And here's the thing.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Have we seen them since, like the daughters or whatever,

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>not once? And we never will because we're never We don't.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 1>They don't go to things, they don't go to the

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>same functions that we go to our family stuff. So again, Salt, Yeah,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, but if that's on your heart, then

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>you should Mike. Yeah, we gotta say, uncle, Mark. But

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like the person in the wrong here. If

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>there was an arbitrator that looked at both sides of this.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It might be the other person might not be You

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>may be the other person. How do you make amends

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 1>when they are the ones at fault. That seems like

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 1>a weird maneuver to me. If you're wrong, it's somebody

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 1>that's different. But I don't know that you did here, No,

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't and and and making amends you're right is

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>more about owning your stuff. But for me, it's it's

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 1>clearing the air. I'm making amends about just clearing the

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>air has been unspoken tension well, and your relationship changed drastically, drastically,

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>so for me just to basically address it and say, hey,

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sorry that we didn't end up inviting them,

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>but I miss you and I get that I told

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>now that you put it like that. Maybe for somebody

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that's stubborn, which my parents families both are, especially my

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:10.359
<v Speaker 1>dad's side of the family, who are very stubborn and

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>don't like to talk about feelings and emotions. I basically

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>learned how to not talk about emotions by observing my

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>entire dad's side of the family. So for stubborn people

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 1>who don't like to talk about it, maybe he just

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>needs me to address it. Yeah, sometimes you just have

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to be at the end of the day. Yeah, you

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta do what's right for you, and I'll always support

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you at the end of the day. I just I'll

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>keep my feelings to myself then because you know, I'm Yeah,

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that's your relationship that you need to treasure and hold

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and if you're ready for that, then you know, you

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you feel in your heart that you have

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to do with that. But I just still don't think

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you did anything wrong or we did anything wrong. Then

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>you Yeah, but you miss that relationship and I and

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I get that when it comes to family, So yeah,

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that's tough. When your family is tough. I feel like

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>with friends or with relationships, sometimes you just want to

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>make them is just to clear your soul in your

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>spirit and not really for a friendship or for that relationship,

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but just kind of make yourself feel like you know,

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Jane has definitely done that. What You've definitely like connected

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>with people, were reached out to people that were either

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>friendemies or acquaintances or even or even friends in the

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>past that ended up doing something wrong. You You you

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>have a very forgiving heart. I do not like to

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>have bad energy out there. I don't like it at all.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't like I just I don't like it. Um

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>there's been only one person that will not it will

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>not speak to me. But that's fine, and that's their

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>right and it's totally fine. Internally, is like, why, well,

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't like negative energy. I don't

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like it at all. But and I just I just

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.479
<v Speaker 1>like to have that like you said, you want that space.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Even though I didn't technically wrong some of those people,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's just having good energy out there. And I

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>mean that again, your side of the street is clean,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's you did the best you could be as

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the person that our pastor talks about, you know. Yeah,

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I even kind of brought this up

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>obviously based on the song thing we talked about last week,

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>but just going into the holiday season, I mean, you're

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>seeing family you haven't seen, you haven't seen, You're seeing

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>people and friends and family that you maybe don't want

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to see. But all you can do is control how

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel, and you're the environment around you. So it's like,

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>why not just go in and just own it and

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>just say hey, I'm here, let's have a good time.

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of what made me think about that, Yeah,

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a very forgiving and that's so positive

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's no insame because when he says that, I'm like,

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and you know what I want to say to the woman,

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, thanks for coming to dinner. Where are the

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>kids that you've got so upset about not them coming

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to our wedding, but yet they don't come to anything else.

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that this is this is not a good thing.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>But for me, I think I just like, I go silent,

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and then I just hope that like years later, you know,

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>because I don't think I've ever had like a real

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>falling out, but I just kind of like stop and

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>then it becomes mutual and then it's like okay. I

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>think though too, and especially like there's relationships in my

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>pasture what I love to go back and say, like, hey,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I've ever had publicly I apologize, but I

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>think and I know that, and I know Mike wants

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>you to and I know, but I think it's one

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>of those things where you know, this is kind of

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the platform to say, you know, you're sorry. And at

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, when we're younger, you were

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>going through so much stuff. People change and people grow

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and I don't hold on. I'm not mad at certain

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>x Is anymore because the way they know me, it's

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just I know that they were in their space and

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that was what they were going through. You know, if

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you had mends of people that you know you date,

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 1>it it's more of just they know that you were

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>messed up everyone like they know that you're sorry. You

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>know that that we we all grow up and we

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>all change, and if not, you don't owe it to

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>them anymore. It's more about you. You owe it to

0:31:57.040 --> 0:32:00.080
<v Speaker 1>yourself and the people that this is actually changed. A

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>wait now that you brought this up, because now I'm

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>thinking and like, I mean, I probably should. But the

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 1>girl who introduced me and Ty, she was one of

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>my best friends and she was one of my absolute

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>best friends. She introduced me and Tight. We are not speaking.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>We haven't spoken five years, but now that we're getting married.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It's actually crazy. We had I wouldn't say of falling

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>out because it just kind of stopped, um, both of us.

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because you know, that's someone I could

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, whatever the f went down, neither

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of us probably know, but like thanks because I'm marrying him,

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>so it's weird things like that. But it's not like

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>we had some like crazy falling out. It just sometimes,

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard. It's hard to keep friends, especially

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>when you started it. Yeah, hashtag no new friends none ever,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so hard. Yeah, wild I think we have a

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>special guest on hold waiting for us, So I'm so excited.

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:58.880
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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, party again. We're back. I missed you so much. Oh,

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I miss you so much. And I had so many

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:59.680
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0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>not it's kind of just a very special intimate place,

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, where we you know, have sometimes have guests.

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And when I knew that I was in Atlanta, I

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, we have to get Emily, like she's you

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>know how much I've been obsessed with you for quite

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a while now, Um, but we just had so much

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 1>fun with you, and I just was like, Okay, now

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>now the podcast wind downers need to hear everything and more.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>We covered so many topics, so many you all always

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>do though, you guys just go you run the gamuts.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>It's so awesome, but we really did cover a lot

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>from the royal Um, we're going to get into all that.

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:42.879
<v Speaker 1>But for those of you, so, how many best time

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>sellers twelve, ten, eleven, Oh you know, I wish nine

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm working on my tenth right now as we speak.

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 1>So this is an awesome break from my writing today. So, um,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>you have a book coming out, The Lies That Bind.

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 1>It's now available for pre order at Emily Giffen dot com.

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>But Something Borrowed was the first movie that has now

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>been turned into well the first book that turned to

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a movie. Um, who who did you think played? Was

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>spot on with that um with that book. Character was

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the description of Darcy in the book, like she's supposed

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.919
<v Speaker 1>to have dark hair, and you know when they said

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Kate huss and I'm like, no, she's totally not. She did.

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>That's like not who I picture at all. But she

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>really nailed it. She nailed it that so much that

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>like it makes me wander I mean, I got to

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>know her a little bit, but you know not, it

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>makes me wonder if like she is sort of a Darthy.

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, she's one thousand percent Darcy a thousand percent.

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>But I I have to be honest because I remember

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>because I've never ever read a book that went into

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 1>a movie ever, and people never understood why people got

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>so upset about certain characters that were casted, because you know,

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how, like why who cares? If this person is?

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Who cares of Jennifer? In your mind? You like see them?

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You know? Well, and that's why, like when something Borrowed

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>came out, I was like, Jennifer Goodwin is not Rachel.

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I had the hardest I was like Darcy, Kate Hudson,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that was spot on, But I have had the hardest

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 1>time being like that's not Rachel, it's not. And eventually,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>now that I've watched it over and over and over again,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, you can see the aspects of Rachel

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and her, but it's just it's it was just so crazy. Okay,

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>So who would you who would you affect? And you

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>all have your wish because where they're there when they

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>do we're gonna do something Blue, and they're recast because

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone's everyone's like too old now, we're all too old now,

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>but they're they're they're too old to play these characters.

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, so wasn't it wasn't Kate Hudson actually supposed to.

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you guys supposed to do something Blue a while back? Yeah?

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.439
<v Speaker 1>We were. And then it just you know how those

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>things happen the side of the business, like it got

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.439
<v Speaker 1>held up, and then you know, the main pretty ters

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Molly Smith left um Alcohn and now she's with Black Label,

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like her own production company, and so you know, we

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>want to make it together. We have a script and

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>we're actually working on some other things that I know.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>It texts you the next day, I'm like, I am

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>determined to work together because there's more adapting three other

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>ones as we speak. We have three scripts, and I'm like,

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Janna Companus, Oh, I would die. Who was who was?

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Actually to give us a little back, like a little

0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>scoop from something borrowed? Who was supposed to? Like? Who

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>were you thinking about having play Rachel? Okay, so gosh,

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>this is like a while back now, but the first

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>person that we I don't even know if I'm supposed

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to say this, but who care? People people talk about

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>this stuff all the time, like who would have had

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the role? Like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know, I

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>really don't Rachel McAdams. I think the first offer Rachel.

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, she totally would have been Rachel. Why

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 1>you might could go her on and ask her about it? Yeah,

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I wish you, Like why did you pass on that movie? Wow?

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And so I think Jennifer Goodwin was was second um.

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And I think there are some things that Jenny Like

0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>what didn't you like about Jenny and that role? Like

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.839
<v Speaker 1>did you think she was like cute? Sweet? Because her

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>face too sweet to such a sweet face Jane. Jane

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>is a little bliss because she's not a big thing. Yeah,

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I just have never been a big fan of her work.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I had just have one of those interactions where she

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, just wasn't very kind. So that kind of

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>broke my heart. I just I loved Rachel so much,

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>so when you see someone that you don't naturally love love,

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to then with the character that Look, when

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I talked about this a little bit, I think in

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 1>the dream room, but what does the deal with so

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>many actresses being like just bitches? No? It's true though,

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 1>because we were well and how we got talking about

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 1>this was we were talking about the Royals because I

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.800
<v Speaker 1>thought that she was a fan of Megan Markel, and

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I've heard so many rumors that she's not a nice

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 1>person and so the me and so I thought that

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Emily was a fan of Megan's. But I've just heard

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so much about her and the friends and how she's

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>treated like the crew and on certain things, and that

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just really bummed me out to hear that. Hopefully that's

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>not the case, but when you hear a lot of them,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I've heard those things too, Janna, Like, you're you're your celebrity.

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Like what I always say about no matter how famous

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>of an author you are, you're automatically like a de lister.

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>But I have enough um overlapped in sort of some

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of those worlds. So I've heard the same things, and

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it's I really loved the idea of her marry into

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that family, just the diversity and American racial woman, strong woman.

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 1>But then when you hear these things, and of course

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you never know if they're true, but it kind of

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>come from good sources, and it's just disappointing. But actresses

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in general, like I, I mean, what's your explanation. You've

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 1>been around more of them than I, but it's just

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 1>like narcissists. I think there's a part of that. And

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>then also like I know, I've had bad days too.

0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, there was a time I was working

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on a movie. Uh, it was during all of our stuff,

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Mike and we were up in Vancouver and Mike and

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>our fighting, and I was really short a few days

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to some people because I was annoyed. I was, but

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't annoyed at them. I was annoyed at what

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>was a lot in my life. I wasn't around my child,

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and when I'm not around my kid, I get I

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>get really um agitated and angry. Well I was gonna say,

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>don't you just think because it's easier, I mean, and

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>not to be like oh poor, but like it's just

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>easier to say like, oh my god, she's such a bit.

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna say about a guy like oh

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>he was Like I feel like it's just easier to

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.319
<v Speaker 1>say like a girl is like oh, she's on her

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>period or she's you know, there's so many more excuses

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 1>a guy could say about not a guy. A person

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>could say about a female actress versus with an actor,

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you could be like, oh my god, he just he

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 1>was in the zone when her like he was like no,

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he was rude and he was a dick. But you know,

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>instead Owen Wilson, who I hear is really nice and

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I like, I hate this, but he filmed a movie

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>at our house, which is just random, like you know,

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>the scouting what do they call the people that picked

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.919
<v Speaker 1>the locations. Yeah, so they just happened to like knock

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>on the door and be like, oh, can you be in?

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, can we used your house? And like yeah,

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>surely when I thought it was Owen Wilson, But there

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was this whole thing like where we weren't supposed to

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>take any pictures, which is like, yeah, I know, you're

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>not just any pictures. But at one point he was

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>on my daughter's swing. There's like big swings attached to

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this tree in the front yard, under year old tree,

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and he was like on the swing and I'm like,

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, Harry, he's on your swing, and so

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>like I took a picture. Right he's like sitting in

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the swinging. I'm like, maybe you know, feet away. I

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 1>took a picture and he came over to me and

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 1>he's like yeah. I'm like, well, I get called out.

0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my mom said, it's I've been like this

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>ever since I was little, Like my Dado yelled. I mean,

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like first in his years like reprimand me

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>even like hey, Emily, don't but like when he did that,

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I like, I mean I didn't cry. I was like,

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>legitimately so upset that I wrote a letter that night.

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I wrote a letter. I'm like, dear Owens, I'm like,

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I really sorry that I took the picture of you

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>and my daughter's swing. I certainly wasn't going to do

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 1>anything with it other than just put it in a

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:26.280
<v Speaker 1>family scrapbook as a fond remembrance. If when you shot

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>this movie at home, like I felt the need to

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>write this letter. But so actors can be kind of

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 1>jerks too, But I wonder if I wonder if it's

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 1>just that they're so I mean, do you think it's

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>like an ego thing? Mike? What do you think? First? Too?

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, well it's funny. First of all, that sucks.

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I was hearing that he wasn't Also he wasn't filming.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like between takes. I should say that too, but

0:43:55.000 --> 0:44:00.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. Just coincidentally, Jane and I have a business

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>meeting the other day with uh one of our agencies

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. And when I started talking about like business

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and work, I'm very uh straight faced because I'm very

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of um, I'm not introverted, but I'm introspective in

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that moment where like Jenna wants to like talk talk

0:44:19.440 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>talk talk, talking back and forth, back and forth my mouth.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like in my head thinking everything out. So I'm

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>very like straight faced, very to the point, very serious,

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>um and just kind of that's just how I do

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 1>it when I when I'm dealing with business stuff and

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and problem solving. So even Janna said, like one of

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>our Janna's a manager that was there was like, was

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Mike in a bad mood because that's just kind of

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>like how I do things when I work. Sometimes I

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>was like Jenna asked me, was like are you okay?

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm great, Like what are you talking about?

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But I guess it's just something I kind of portray

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 1>without even trying. Granted I didn't go up to somebody

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.359
<v Speaker 1>and give them take a picture of me. But that's

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that we none of us really

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have experience where if you had to deal with actual

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>paparazzi or actual people in your seven who knows how

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>jaded somebody gets and gets tired of it and when

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>they say please know pictures and someone doesn't listen to

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a boundary that they set up, or

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.359
<v Speaker 1>when all eyes are constantly you can't go. You know.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to talk when on the ride sometimes

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to work, just because I know it's going to be

0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a really long day. I have a lot of energy.

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm I have. So there's certain days where sometimes I

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and I feel bad when the drivers asking me question

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the driver from set to wherever we're going. And if

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm quiet, am I going to be seen as rude?

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Or if I'm short, am I going to be seen

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 1>as rude or is it okay for me to say,

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm so sorry, I just don't really want

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 1>to talk right now. But I end up usually talking

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm kind of short, which I'm like, oh,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>they probably thought I was a total b but I

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>just I I need you have to preserve it down

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to And there's a good reminder that in the delivery

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>because of the key had said something about the sling

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 1>in a different way, or like, if you say, you know,

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't really feel like talking, there's a good trick

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>for that. In the back of cars, I I say

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>on ste I'm just listening to a voicemail, and I

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 1>hold the phone up to my ear and just pretend

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to listen to a voicemail that that isn't really there. Um,

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that's a good little trick because I always filty for

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 1>that too. But um, and I think maybe you're right.

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I think if you own your a microscope and you're like,

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're just a normal person going about your business,

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're short with someone you know once every was

0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 1>a month. Let's call it. If you're famous in your

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 1>short with that person person once a month, that anecdote

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to get told and retold and retold. So yeah,

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>that's I guess. I guess that's fair. But is this

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 1>story that you haven't told you but that you want

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to tell? Yeah, you know what you you mean, like

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a book or like a personal story, like a personal

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like a story that you want to write in a book,

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like some either whether off someone's life or I mean,

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably you can't answer because you know, spoiler alert,

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, is there some kind of that I

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about a royal book? Oh my gosh, wouldn't

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be fun. What do you think of? Yeah, you know,

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 1>there's so many ideas I have and so many things

0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that I want to write about right now in the

0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>book because The Waves that Find is written about the

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>summer before um, nine eleven, and I'm sort of fascinated

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>with that time, like just like Innocence, almost this time

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>before not eleven. I guess partly because I lived in

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the city then. Um, so there's some you know, autobiographical

0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>things in there, and um but you know, I write

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>about relationships, and so all the books are sort of

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:50.919
<v Speaker 1>recurring themes in terms of the messiness of relationships, which

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the reasons that I find the

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>two of you so appealing and refreshing, and you know,

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm so drawn to you as a couple in the

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>families because you're really you could so easily be one

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of my books, you know, like exactly popped down. We

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:16.439
<v Speaker 1>got material for days, I mean for days. But it's

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>like you, I think most people do, but they're too

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>afraid of you know. And as you explained your story,

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it was sort of like forced, like you were forced

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to share it because you wanted to share it on

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>your terms, which I thought. It's just an interesting part

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of our conversation that night, your description of that and

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 1>how you sort of like, you know, you wanted ownership

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of your own story, um, which was just just think

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 1>of how incredibly strong you are. But um, but yeah,

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that most people have you know, met Our

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>lives are so messy, Our relationships are so messy. I

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>mean even you're you know, your your best friend, Like

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>if you go deep enough with the best friend, you're

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>going to have like the rocky patch. Certainly in a

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>marriage you have capatch. I mean there's a part of

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:02.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the books where I say marriage is a

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>total mystery, even the two people who are in it

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:10.239
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's the case with everyone. And

0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.919
<v Speaker 1>I just think most people are so busy worrying about

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.399
<v Speaker 1>the perceptions of who they are and who they want

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to present to the world, that is that you you

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 1>don't really you don't really know what's happening with people,

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're just posting these things on social media and

0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:26.520
<v Speaker 1>making their lives look perfect, and because they're almost too afraid,

0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>like what will people think, Well, do they still like

0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>me if they know that my husband had an affair

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 1>or you know, which is really the messed up part.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, you're you're you're not only worried

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>about what you've done, but like what everyone in your

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.360
<v Speaker 1>life has done. Like what if someone knows that my

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.280
<v Speaker 1>child has a drug problem? Oh my gosh, the militiudge

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>me is not being a good mother, and maybe the

0:49:44.760 --> 0:49:46.719
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be friends with me. And you see

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this stuff, you know, as you when

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're writing books and really examining relationships, you

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>know you, I mean, you guys see that too, don't

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you When you're when you're doing your podcast and you

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:02.879
<v Speaker 1>have people share these stories with you. Oh yeah, yeah, Um,

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 1>so you have three kids, I do and what, um,

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:09.320
<v Speaker 1>what do you think the greatest piece of relationship advice

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.839
<v Speaker 1>that you've gotten along the way from you know, just

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>life with your husband and three kids, and where you

0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are at now in terms of marriage or like

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>in terms of you know, motherhood or just inch otherhood

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and and and really like what would you what would

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you tell your your kids when they get to that

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>young adult stage in their twenties and they're trying to

0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.360
<v Speaker 1>start to have serious relationships, Like what kind of relational

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.600
<v Speaker 1>advice would you give them to compare to you and

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>your husband of what you all have done successfully? Well,

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 1>they're there, you know, I've always are fifteen, my daughters twelve,

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:43.959
<v Speaker 1>so no one there have no boyfriend, girlfriend or anything

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. But in terms of I think what we

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>what we try to sort of show by example and

0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the conversations that we have is that people, you know,

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:55.360
<v Speaker 1>people aren't perfect, and we make mistakes, and we always

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, we always try, even if it's sometimes a

0:50:58.440 --> 0:51:01.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of upfront to say, to own our mistakes

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.359
<v Speaker 1>in front of our kids to each other, like I'm

0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 1>sorry that that I didn't say that in a nice way.

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>That wasn't right um, even though later we could be

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we can continue with the fight. But I

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>think I think it's importantly even if you just agree,

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>like just just sort of acknowledge that we're all flawed,

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just sometimes something will happen and you know,

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I have one one one of my sons, like a

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit more emotional and health hell be up that

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>will have a family fight or an argument and he'll

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>be like, the whole weekend ruined, the whole thing is ruined,

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole trip druin. And you know, we always say, no,

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not all that sings all ruined because

0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>this happened or that happened. Like, you can recover, you

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>can bound back. You need to be resilient in your

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>own life and in your own relationships. You know, you

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 1>this isn't a fairy tale. We can have little setbacks,

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:54.279
<v Speaker 1>we can have disagreements, and you know, ultimately the other

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:56.320
<v Speaker 1>thing is just you're all on the same team. You know,

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have fights with people on your team, but

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you're on the same team. It's in a way, it's

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 1>your family against the world. And I feel like YouTube

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:07.879
<v Speaker 1>really convey that in your podcast. It's like you ultimately,

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:11.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have each other's backs, and I think

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that's that's so important. I don't know if that's that

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 1>advice feels too general, but no, I think I think

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>that's actually something that goes over looked at Jim and

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about a lot, and we even talked about

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it when we had you. Is about just remaining keeping

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>that mindset of your your team. You know, your spouse

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>is your teammate. You don't have to be against each other,

0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you can work together. I just think it's easy for

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>people to make the other person out to be the

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 1>enemy though, And I think that's what we've done earlier

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.919
<v Speaker 1>on in our relationship that we've really failed on, where

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm not your enemy, but you're treating me

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:45.160
<v Speaker 1>like your enemy, you know. I think that's that's hard,

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I think, But I think over the years of being married,

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you start to work together. Yeah, when you when you

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>get so frustrated into that or you insecure with yourself,

0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it's very easy to sort of draw those lines. Um.

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's a whole separate sort of

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 1>issue in a marriage versus like what you you know,

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the hold the family component, um, you know, it's it's

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>almost like it's it's almost like it's okay for them

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to see you fight. They have to office see the

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.280
<v Speaker 1>resolution there and that you love each other no matter what. Um.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we have the twin sons, so they

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>fight all the time and it's just like, you know,

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.919
<v Speaker 1>the worst when they're fighting. And what we always say

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 1>is do you like it when Daddy and I fight?

0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Will know, well, just you know stop then, like you everyone,

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>we have five people in our family. Everyone's responsible for

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the happiness of our home life. If one person is

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>being awful, which is usually my youngest daughter, we talked

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:45.279
<v Speaker 1>about that Jan our daughters, it can be difficult, um,

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but that's sort of everything off kilter, and you have

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:49.560
<v Speaker 1>sure ruined them, like you know, you cannot be as

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I always stay that, Harriet, you cannot hijack the happiness

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 1>of this family. We do not negotiate with terrorists. That's

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>a good life. It's a good line for you and

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>your daughter. Well, that's a great wisdom from a fantastic writer. Emily.

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us, and we're so

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.560
<v Speaker 1>excited to connect with you again and have you on

0:54:09.600 --> 0:54:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a new show. I know we're gonna try to come

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:18.480
<v Speaker 1>back to Atlanta soon. So friend, Emily you I just

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<v Speaker 1>called her. M she does have a movie for you

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>or some roles. So yeah, I'm just obsessed with there

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>because I've read every single one of her books. I

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.480
<v Speaker 1>don't read any other author. There's not one other author

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that I read. She is the only one. And whenever

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I get it, I'm like, bye, Mike, like two days gone.

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 1>That's so, she's the only author I can read. I

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 1>just think she's so relatable. Her stories are so good.

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm laughing, I'm crying. I'm like and then I'm like, oh,

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.759
<v Speaker 1>it's so good. Emily Given dot com. Get every single

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<v Speaker 1>with your One Tree Hill marathon? Is that still going?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? So look, sorry again, we spa this

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody recently. Every podcast, every wine down, people ask

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<v Speaker 1>you because someone asked about that, and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I personally didn't realize that there's like two ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>episodes and he's one is like fifty five minutes. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but we don't have a spare two nine

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<v Speaker 1>hours to spend watching One Tree Hill. It's one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit how do you eat an elephant one bite

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<v Speaker 1>at a time? You just gotta just gotta good after

0:57:59.880 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>one and show a week and the next thing you

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.200
<v Speaker 1>know you got it. That. Yeah, but that means we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, you know that, we have to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>instead of some of the shows that were the morning show,

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<v Speaker 1>So I need to start that. It's so good. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I've gotten buried in shows right now. It's only

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<v Speaker 1>I am okay, So sorry Sabrina and everyone else. She

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>says that show was and is the ish. Still, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start it. I'm gonna do it. I love the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>To see you at the Royal Oak Podcast. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>counting down, so wind down to our our last week

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<v Speaker 1>of this of this run. We're doing Chicago, which has

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sold out. Detroit, got a couple of seats loft for

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that in the Louisville the first week of December. It's

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna be so much fool Fourth and fifth, all right,

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Dana is about to turn twenty five. She's went with

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend, who's twenty six, for two years. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have three wonderful brothers. Were very big and intimidating.

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend is laid back, and that ruggy is not

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<v Speaker 1>scary looking at all. A little over a year ago,

0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:02.440
<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend and I were out and we're approached by

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<v Speaker 1>an irate man yelling at us over a parking space.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very uncomfortable, very scared. My boyfriend did nothing.

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I was the one who had to calm this guy

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 1>down when my boyfriend just stood there. I expressed my

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:17.200
<v Speaker 1>feelings to him. He apologized, He told me he would

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever I needed him to do to help me

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<v Speaker 1>feel safe. It's been over a year and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what it is exactly that I need from him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of hoping another occasion like that comes up

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<v Speaker 1>so he can show me something different. This is the

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>man I want to settle down with and have a

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<v Speaker 1>family with, but I'm not sure I can be confident

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<v Speaker 1>in doing either of those things if I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>safe with him. Amazing that, I mean, I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just a fantastic email that's so good? So

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<v Speaker 1>what So Okay, there's a few schools of thought on this. So, Dana,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to trade places with the woman that

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<v Speaker 1>was dating the hothead who would get in a fight

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<v Speaker 1>snaptop or or make it worse or escalate it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that most people in that relationship would probably

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<v Speaker 1>trade places with you. But there is that happy medium.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what she's saying, though. She wants to feel

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<v Speaker 1>protective and she wants to feel and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that means that her boyfriend has to basically threaten to

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<v Speaker 1>beat this guy up, but something definitely needs to be said. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>she just needs to assume the role because I've assumed

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<v Speaker 1>that role very early on, and I know you think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not scary, but I really am. I saw very

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<v Speaker 1>early on that ties a lover and he's kind and

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<v Speaker 1>he's genuine, and I'm just not so if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to come at us, come at me, and here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are there are several moments where Jana

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<v Speaker 1>is the more intimidating person. Yeah, you just gotta like fine, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. What do you mean? What what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>You like yell at cab people and oh no, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pop off on anyone who looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me. But like, if someone's gonna get in my

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<v Speaker 1>face about a parking spot, I'm going to have him

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<v Speaker 1>take several seats and tell me he's to walk with

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<v Speaker 1>the lord and calm down, like you know, something normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna throw punches, But that's really funny. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I mean, because you're you would sorry, you would

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<v Speaker 1>you would throw you would throw punches, not now, not nowadays?

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<v Speaker 1>What days his football testaster, Yeah, not nowadays. I would

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<v Speaker 1>not get in a fight over a parking spot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to talk for people like that, like account

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone threatened your safety, yes, yeah, or if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody pushed you in a bar and you're like, yo, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, what what situation should I be in a

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<v Speaker 1>bar where someone pushes me and says you would good question?

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<v Speaker 1>Justin timber like circle. I mean I can get, I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand. I'm me, I'm sure. I mean you guys say,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Sarah, you're just owning the role. Well no,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are no, no, there are times like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we walk our dogs late at night and sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>get scared and I'm like, okay, realistically though, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>walking this dog and someone comes at me and die,

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<v Speaker 1>what is he gonna do? He's gonna possibly like scream,

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<v Speaker 1>run or run you know. So there's times where you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'd like him to but I think for sure

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<v Speaker 1>for this listener, obviously, if something happens, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>protect and assume the role. Like the parking spot thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he was a little too chill, but like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone let me ask this, let me and let

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<v Speaker 1>me have a point to this, to have a story

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<v Speaker 1>of apologists. So I wonder it was about a parking spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she do anything to piss this guy off? Like

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<v Speaker 1>did Dana steal his parking spot? And is that why

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting angry. But which uh the other day at

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<v Speaker 1>Jolie's Thanksgiving dinner at her school, you beat the horn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mom going into the thing because she took

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<v Speaker 1>your guy, Michael, that's a mom going into the same school.

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<v Speaker 1>Serious side, I'm just kidding. That's because we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>fight and I was angry, and it doesn't But no,

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<v Speaker 1>My point is if Dana did something to make this

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<v Speaker 1>guy mad and she's like, stand up for me, why

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you saving back? And if he's like, well you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stole a spot, bro, wait, like how to

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<v Speaker 1>lose a guy? My friends? You know, we brought this up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we might have talked about before. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to bring it back up. Okay, yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't bring it back up. Still subject okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this girl out of a salon called you an out

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<v Speaker 1>for kind of sound means Jana wasn't purposely, but she

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<v Speaker 1>sounded a little snarky to the woman at the nail

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<v Speaker 1>salon about our appointment time. Serious, remember that, and the

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<v Speaker 1>girls like calling Janna rude and Janna instead of looking

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<v Speaker 1>back at the girl, she looks at me. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna say anything? And I kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>at Jane. I'm like, well, you're kind of bed. It

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<v Speaker 1>was one instance, but any other time, oh my god. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have anymore Mark, Well, no, but just we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really given her any advice. I think it made

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<v Speaker 1>a great conversation, but I think the advice, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>just defending guys that aren't very um traditionally macho. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could say this may never come up again

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you live. You know this, this may

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<v Speaker 1>have been an isolated incident. I don't think you should

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<v Speaker 1>put so much into this. You don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>married to your brothers, and you don't just love him

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<v Speaker 1>for what he is and assume this is never going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. And if it's really bothering, you bring it

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<v Speaker 1>up to him from a good place. But hey, that's

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<v Speaker 1>still has been sitting with me really weird. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know that you will maybe say something

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<v Speaker 1>or hire somebody to jump out at you in an

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<v Speaker 1>aisle an alley, frank him, frank him responsible, Alright, love you,

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<v Speaker 1>wind down next week.