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Speaker 1: Find Down and radio podcast. What Up, Sarah? What? I

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Speaker 1: just showed Mike the video? What video of Justin? And

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Speaker 1: I was about to talk about it and he should?

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Speaker 1: He goes, stop save it. I feel like we have

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Speaker 1: to make shirts that say save it because we save everything.

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Speaker 1: So real time is this? Is this like big news

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Speaker 1: like they're trying to downplay it. Where is he at?

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Speaker 1: He was on location filming, sorry to catch everyone up,

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Speaker 1: justin Timberlake. There was a video of him and his

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Speaker 1: He was hammered. And I get and I've learned this

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Speaker 1: from Sarah because Sarah, you texted me and you're like,

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Speaker 1: did you see this Justin? Yeah? Okay, so continue what

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Speaker 1: what happened? It's just a video of him on the

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Speaker 1: his wife. My thing too, is like for what I'm

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Speaker 1: like watching it and he's you know, he's sitting back.

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Speaker 1: But if I were to have my hand like not

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Speaker 1: just on the tip of his kneecap or not my

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Speaker 1: husband's kneecap, not just it wasn't on the tip here,

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Speaker 1: it was like right past the kneecap, were getting close

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Speaker 1: of the hand, like if my hand was just chilling,

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Speaker 1: let's just bless his come up with the name, what

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Speaker 1: guy do we know? That's okay? Kevin McGarry, who we

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Speaker 1: love He's been my husband in a few movies. If

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Speaker 1: I was if you saw a video of me saying,

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Speaker 1: who we love Kevin, he's amazing, You're like, if you

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Speaker 1: saw me having a whole like holding his leg like that,

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Speaker 1: would you be okay with that video? I didn't see

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Speaker 1: her like have her No, video was just a snippet.

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Speaker 1: There are pictures of them holding hands under the table,

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Speaker 1: like there are pictures of them like interlocked hands like

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Speaker 1: thing that I'll say that I I hold hands, and

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Speaker 1: I've learned my lesson with that. But I have held

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Speaker 1: hands with people that weren't my partner, not what I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, not since you. But that's a lesson that

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Speaker 1: I've learned from me. I love to hold hands. Catherine,

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Speaker 1: who's listening to this, she knows I'm always trying to

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Speaker 1: hold her hands. I love holding hands. I think it's

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Speaker 1: held Kevin's hand, I think, not like lan Set never mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it's wrong because it's just it's just wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's just weird, and like it's because of them are odd,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just odd. Well, and it's just because again

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Speaker 1: you're you're putting yourself in a situation of basically like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you're inviting the next step if there's a next step,

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Speaker 1: and listen. Yeah. The only thing I'll say, just from

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Speaker 1: watching the video again, I didn't see like the pictures

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, Sarah. Just from watching the video, I

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Speaker 1: can see it would holding my hand like that on

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Speaker 1: someone's leg. No. But what I'm saying is we've all

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Speaker 1: But like for example of this, look at right there

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Speaker 1: I mean her forearms on his leg like her hands,

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Speaker 1: I definitely think it's a little fishy. All I'm saying

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Speaker 1: That's what. But just listen to me for a second.

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Speaker 1: We've had those moments, Sarah, myself in the US of

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Speaker 1: you just a little too lushy, right, You're just kind

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Speaker 1: saying that that was happening in that video, but just

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Speaker 1: I would holding my hand Okay, let me phrase this though.

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Speaker 1: like around her back forge they said they they came

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Speaker 1: It's if if basically he cheats like she gets everything. Well,

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Speaker 1: sure he cheated on Brittany and she cheated on him

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Speaker 1: And also I looked up her the prenup, but it's

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Speaker 1: Like Mark said, if you're married, you shouldn't be having

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Speaker 1: And that's on her, right because he's so blitz he

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Speaker 1: It feels like she can do that. This is ongoing,

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Speaker 1: the wife felt that she had to that they should

424
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: have been invited, and so she kind of said, we're

425
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: not coming, yeah, and so he ended up not coming

426
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: to the wedding and I and what hurt for Mike

427
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,239
Speaker 1: was because that was his closest family member and he

428
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 1: was you were so upset about it, and so the

429
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: fact that and I love your heart and you wanting

430
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: to make that amends. But at the same time, it's like,

431
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: is he not going to own up for the fact

432
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: that was a messed up? So how long? So what

433
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: was that? Five six years ago? It'll be five years.

434
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: I think for me it's because I've held onto it

435
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: for you know, four plus years, and interactions between us

436
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: and them have been very uncomfortable and very awkward and

437
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: it's like the elephant in the room. And that's my

438
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: fault because I'm not. I don't. I don't like that

439
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: she did that to him. I think that's so wrong

440
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: that she wanted to invite him, and honestly, because they do,

441
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: they wanted to be at that wedding because sorry not

442
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: to call us, you know, not to call it what

443
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: it is. But you know, Sarah, you're going through that

444
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: right now. I totally at the Gretzky wedding, totally agree.

445
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: If it was if he was married and whatever, if

446
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't them, they wouldn't have cared. It's just the truth.

447
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have It's the unfortunate thing about some people

448
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: in our position of being known somehow that you unfortunately

449
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: you get jade and kind of have to take that

450
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: into consideration. It's like, what's someone's true motivation? So I

451
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: probably have not been the nice one. I think we

452
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: saw them at a football game of jobs, and you know,

453
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: I probably wasn't nice to her. But I want to

454
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: be like, that was rude. Will it hurt you because

455
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: it hurt him, you know, and let you check that

456
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: you carry that And so now I'm taking and I

457
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: don't want you to not that that's just anyways. Yeah, sorry,

458
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: but it's a very passionate about this too, because I

459
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 1: know I hurt you. I get I get where both

460
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: of you are coming from. Yeah. For me, I think

461
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm just finally to the point of, like, you know what,

462
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: even to answer your question, honey, even if he didn't

463
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: you stay back to me. You know what I told

464
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: you I was going to be there. I wasn't there.

465
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like, even if you didn't, I can't. I

466
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: can't take that one. It's just like what we talked about,

467
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: cleaning your shot out of the street, right. All I

468
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: can do is make my amends, even tho I didn't

469
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: do anything wrong, but just say just to just basically

470
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: speak my truth and say, hey, just hurt me, I

471
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: miss you. We're always really really really close. He was

472
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: my closest relative outside to like my family out of

473
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: all my aunt uncle was like closest everything. And so

474
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: even if you don't think you're carrying it, you are.

475
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's like I just kind of

476
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: want to like get the negative as selfish as it is,

477
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: like I just kind of want the vibes out. So

478
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: it's like if I know, I you know, ended it

479
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: or pieced it up. It's like, okay the end. You know,

480
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: if he does and you have that same relationship with

481
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: the other person doesn't clean clean their side of the street,

482
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's that's the question. I think. If they don't,

483
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: it's still that's sure, it won't be the same as

484
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: connected as you would hope it would be. But at

485
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: least I can be free of any grudge. And again,

486
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not one to hold grudge it, I'm really not.

487
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: But at least I can let go of my the

488
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: grudge I have against against him or the situation and

489
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: just let it go. You know what I think four

490
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: and a half years ago it is. I do think

491
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: that time it's like a blessing anti curse. But as

492
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: time goes on, you're kind of like, I want to

493
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: be this mad because it really hurt me. But then

494
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: you're also like, do I really care anymore? I'm kind

495
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: of over, you know, so I can see how, like,

496
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what is the appropriate time to let something go?

497
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I mean, even even when we're

498
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: discussing this, and and and if you out there listening,

499
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: anyone that's gone through their wedding and or playing currently

500
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: planning a wedding, and we understand, I mean, no one

501
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: goes through and plans it, Sarah and not has to

502
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: deal with some of this. And my parents said, my

503
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: parents are trying to like mitigate all of it and say, look,

504
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: we'll pay for the extra because they knew we were

505
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: paying for our own wedding. We'll pay for the extra seats.

506
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: And we're like, it's not about the seats, it's about

507
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: the principle. We're like, it's not. No, it's not about that. Yeah,

508
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: and it's like I trust me, I mean I yeah,

509
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: it's like, it's not about you. It's one day. It's

510
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: not about you, right, But that's tough. And here's the thing.

511
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: Have we seen them since, like the daughters or whatever,

512
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: not once? And we never will because we're never We don't.

513
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: They don't go to things, they don't go to the

514
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: same functions that we go to our family stuff. So again, Salt, Yeah,

515
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: but I mean, but if that's on your heart, then

516
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: you should Mike. Yeah, we gotta say, uncle, Mark. But

517
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: it sounds like the person in the wrong here. If

518
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: there was an arbitrator that looked at both sides of this.

519
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: It might be the other person might not be You

520
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: may be the other person. How do you make amends

521
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: when they are the ones at fault. That seems like

522
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: a weird maneuver to me. If you're wrong, it's somebody

523
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: that's different. But I don't know that you did here, No,

524
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: I didn't and and and making amends you're right is

525
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: more about owning your stuff. But for me, it's it's

526
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: clearing the air. I'm making amends about just clearing the

527
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: air has been unspoken tension well, and your relationship changed drastically, drastically,

528
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: so for me just to basically address it and say, hey,

529
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry that we didn't end up inviting them,

530
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: but I miss you and I get that I told

531
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: now that you put it like that. Maybe for somebody

532
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: that's stubborn, which my parents families both are, especially my

533
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: dad's side of the family, who are very stubborn and

534
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about feelings and emotions. I basically

535
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: learned how to not talk about emotions by observing my

536
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: entire dad's side of the family. So for stubborn people

537
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: who don't like to talk about it, maybe he just

538
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: needs me to address it. Yeah, sometimes you just have

539
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: to be at the end of the day. Yeah, you

540
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: gotta do what's right for you, and I'll always support

541
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: you at the end of the day. I just I'll

542
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: keep my feelings to myself then because you know, I'm Yeah,

543
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: that's your relationship that you need to treasure and hold

544
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: and if you're ready for that, then you know, you

545
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: do whatever you feel in your heart that you have

546
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: to do with that. But I just still don't think

547
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: you did anything wrong or we did anything wrong. Then

548
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: you Yeah, but you miss that relationship and I and

549
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: I get that when it comes to family, So yeah,

550
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: that's tough. When your family is tough. I feel like

551
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: with friends or with relationships, sometimes you just want to

552
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: make them is just to clear your soul in your

553
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: spirit and not really for a friendship or for that relationship,

554
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: but just kind of make yourself feel like you know,

555
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Jane has definitely done that. What You've definitely like connected

556
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: with people, were reached out to people that were either

557
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: friendemies or acquaintances or even or even friends in the

558
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: past that ended up doing something wrong. You You you

559
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: have a very forgiving heart. I do not like to

560
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: have bad energy out there. I don't like it at all.

561
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't like I just I don't like it. Um

562
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: there's been only one person that will not it will

563
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: not speak to me. But that's fine, and that's their

564
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: right and it's totally fine. Internally, is like, why, well,

565
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I just I just don't like negative energy. I don't

566
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: like it at all. But and I just I just

567
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: like to have that like you said, you want that space.

568
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: Even though I didn't technically wrong some of those people,

569
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: but it's just having good energy out there. And I

570
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: mean that again, your side of the street is clean,

571
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: and it's you did the best you could be as

572
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: the person that our pastor talks about, you know. Yeah,

573
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: And the reason I even kind of brought this up

574
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: obviously based on the song thing we talked about last week,

575
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: but just going into the holiday season, I mean, you're

576
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: seeing family you haven't seen, you haven't seen, You're seeing

577
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: people and friends and family that you maybe don't want

578
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: to see. But all you can do is control how

579
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: you feel, and you're the environment around you. So it's like,

580
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: why not just go in and just own it and

581
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: just say hey, I'm here, let's have a good time.

582
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what made me think about that, Yeah,

583
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a very forgiving and that's so positive

584
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: and that's no insame because when he says that, I'm like,

585
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: and you know what I want to say to the woman,

586
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thanks for coming to dinner. Where are the

587
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: kids that you've got so upset about not them coming

588
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: to our wedding, but yet they don't come to anything else.

589
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: I think that this is this is not a good thing.

590
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: But for me, I think I just like, I go silent,

591
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: and then I just hope that like years later, you know,

592
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: because I don't think I've ever had like a real

593
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: falling out, but I just kind of like stop and

594
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: then it becomes mutual and then it's like okay. I

595
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: think though too, and especially like there's relationships in my

596
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: pasture what I love to go back and say, like, hey,

597
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I've ever had publicly I apologize, but I

598
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: think and I know that, and I know Mike wants

599
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: you to and I know, but I think it's one

600
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: of those things where you know, this is kind of

601
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: the platform to say, you know, you're sorry. And at

602
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day, when we're younger, you were

603
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: going through so much stuff. People change and people grow

604
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: and I don't hold on. I'm not mad at certain

605
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: x Is anymore because the way they know me, it's

606
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: just I know that they were in their space and

607
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: that was what they were going through. You know, if

608
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: you had mends of people that you know you date,

609
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: it it's more of just they know that you were

610
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: messed up everyone like they know that you're sorry. You

611
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: know that that we we all grow up and we

612
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: all change, and if not, you don't owe it to

613
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: them anymore. It's more about you. You owe it to

614
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: yourself and the people that this is actually changed. A

615
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: wait now that you brought this up, because now I'm

616
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: thinking and like, I mean, I probably should. But the

617
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: girl who introduced me and Ty, she was one of

618
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: my best friends and she was one of my absolute

619
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: best friends. She introduced me and Tight. We are not speaking.

620
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: We haven't spoken five years, but now that we're getting married.

621
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: It's actually crazy. We had I wouldn't say of falling

622
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: out because it just kind of stopped, um, both of us.

623
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you know, that's someone I could

624
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: be like, you know, whatever the f went down, neither

625
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: of us probably know, but like thanks because I'm marrying him,

626
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: so it's weird things like that. But it's not like

627
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: we had some like crazy falling out. It just sometimes,

628
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard. It's hard to keep friends, especially

629
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: when you started it. Yeah, hashtag no new friends none ever,

630
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: It's so hard. Yeah, wild I think we have a

631
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: special guest on hold waiting for us, So I'm so excited.

632
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and then we'll get her on

633
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the line. Are you guys worried about finding the perfect

634
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm really excited um to have this beautiful

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Speaker 1: soul back on. So Emily Giffen was a guest on

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Speaker 1: our Atlanta podcast and I shouldn't say podcast Evening with

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Speaker 1: on wine Down and she was incredible and I was

661
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: so obsessed with her. But we have Emily Giffen on theline.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, party again. We're back. I missed you so much. Oh,

663
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Speaker 1: I miss you so much. And I had so many

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Speaker 1: comments because a lot of people think that our wind Down,

665
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Speaker 1: you know, Evening With show is recorded and it's it's

666
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Speaker 1: not it's kind of just a very special intimate place,

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Speaker 1: you know, where we you know, have sometimes have guests.

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Speaker 1: And when I knew that I was in Atlanta, I

669
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Speaker 1: was like, we have to get Emily, like she's you

670
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Speaker 1: know how much I've been obsessed with you for quite

671
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Speaker 1: a while now, Um, but we just had so much

672
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Speaker 1: fun with you, and I just was like, Okay, now

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00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: now the podcast wind downers need to hear everything and more.

674
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: We covered so many topics, so many you all always

675
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Speaker 1: do though, you guys just go you run the gamuts.

676
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: It's so awesome, but we really did cover a lot

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Speaker 1: from the royal Um, we're going to get into all that.

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Speaker 1: But for those of you, so, how many best time

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Speaker 1: sellers twelve, ten, eleven, Oh you know, I wish nine

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: and I'm working on my tenth right now as we speak.

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Speaker 1: So this is an awesome break from my writing today. So, um,

682
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Speaker 1: you have a book coming out, The Lies That Bind.

683
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: It's now available for pre order at Emily Giffen dot com.

684
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: But Something Borrowed was the first movie that has now

685
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Speaker 1: been turned into well the first book that turned to

686
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: a movie. Um, who who did you think played? Was

687
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: spot on with that um with that book. Character was

688
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: the description of Darcy in the book, like she's supposed

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Speaker 1: to have dark hair, and you know when they said

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Speaker 1: Kate huss and I'm like, no, she's totally not. She did.

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Speaker 1: That's like not who I picture at all. But she

692
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Speaker 1: really nailed it. She nailed it that so much that

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Speaker 1: like it makes me wander I mean, I got to

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Speaker 1: know her a little bit, but you know not, it

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Speaker 1: makes me wonder if like she is sort of a Darthy.

696
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Speaker 1: You know, she's one thousand percent Darcy a thousand percent.

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Speaker 1: But I I have to be honest because I remember

698
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Speaker 1: because I've never ever read a book that went into

699
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Speaker 1: a movie ever, and people never understood why people got

700
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: so upset about certain characters that were casted, because you know,

701
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Speaker 1: I'm like, how, like why who cares? If this person is?

702
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: Who cares of Jennifer? In your mind? You like see them?

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00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: You know? Well, and that's why, like when something Borrowed

704
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Speaker 1: came out, I was like, Jennifer Goodwin is not Rachel.

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Speaker 1: I had the hardest I was like Darcy, Kate Hudson,

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Speaker 1: that was spot on, But I have had the hardest

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Speaker 1: time being like that's not Rachel, it's not. And eventually,

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Speaker 1: now that I've watched it over and over and over again,

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you can see the aspects of Rachel

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00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: and her, but it's just it's it was just so crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So who would you who would you affect? And you

712
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: all have your wish because where they're there when they

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Speaker 1: do we're gonna do something Blue, and they're recast because

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00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: everyone's everyone's like too old now, we're all too old now,

715
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: but they're they're they're too old to play these characters.

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00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so wasn't it wasn't Kate Hudson actually supposed to.

717
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Speaker 1: Were you guys supposed to do something Blue a while back? Yeah?

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: We were. And then it just you know how those

719
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: things happen the side of the business, like it got

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Speaker 1: held up, and then you know, the main pretty ters

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Speaker 1: Molly Smith left um Alcohn and now she's with Black Label,

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00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: like her own production company, and so you know, we

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Speaker 1: want to make it together. We have a script and

724
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Speaker 1: we're actually working on some other things that I know.

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00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: It texts you the next day, I'm like, I am

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Speaker 1: determined to work together because there's more adapting three other

727
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: ones as we speak. We have three scripts, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Janna Companus, Oh, I would die. Who was who was?

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Speaker 1: Actually to give us a little back, like a little

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Speaker 1: scoop from something borrowed? Who was supposed to? Like? Who

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Speaker 1: were you thinking about having play Rachel? Okay, so gosh,

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Speaker 1: this is like a while back now, but the first

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Speaker 1: person that we I don't even know if I'm supposed

734
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Speaker 1: to say this, but who care? People people talk about

735
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: this stuff all the time, like who would have had

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Speaker 1: the role? Like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know, I

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00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: really don't Rachel McAdams. I think the first offer Rachel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, she totally would have been Rachel. Why

739
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: you might could go her on and ask her about it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wish you, Like why did you pass on that movie? Wow?

741
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: And so I think Jennifer Goodwin was was second um.

742
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Speaker 1: And I think there are some things that Jenny Like

743
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: what didn't you like about Jenny and that role? Like

744
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: did you think she was like cute? Sweet? Because her

745
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: face too sweet to such a sweet face Jane. Jane

746
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: is a little bliss because she's not a big thing. Yeah,

747
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: I just have never been a big fan of her work.

748
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: I had just have one of those interactions where she

749
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: wasn't like, just wasn't very kind. So that kind of

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00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: broke my heart. I just I loved Rachel so much,

751
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: so when you see someone that you don't naturally love love,

752
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to then with the character that Look, when

753
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I talked about this a little bit, I think in

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Speaker 1: the dream room, but what does the deal with so

755
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: many actresses being like just bitches? No? It's true though,

756
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: because we were well and how we got talking about

757
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: this was we were talking about the Royals because I

758
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: thought that she was a fan of Megan Markel, and

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00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: I've heard so many rumors that she's not a nice

760
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: person and so the me and so I thought that

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00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Emily was a fan of Megan's. But I've just heard

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00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: so much about her and the friends and how she's

763
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: treated like the crew and on certain things, and that

764
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: just really bummed me out to hear that. Hopefully that's

765
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: not the case, but when you hear a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: I've heard those things too, Janna, Like, you're you're your celebrity.

767
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: Like what I always say about no matter how famous

768
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Speaker 1: of an author you are, you're automatically like a de lister.

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Speaker 1: But I have enough um overlapped in sort of some

770
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: of those worlds. So I've heard the same things, and

771
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: it's I really loved the idea of her marry into

772
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: that family, just the diversity and American racial woman, strong woman.

773
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: But then when you hear these things, and of course

774
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: you never know if they're true, but it kind of

775
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: come from good sources, and it's just disappointing. But actresses

776
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: in general, like I, I mean, what's your explanation. You've

777
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: been around more of them than I, but it's just

778
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: like narcissists. I think there's a part of that. And

779
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: then also like I know, I've had bad days too.

780
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: I was like, there was a time I was working

781
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: on a movie. Uh, it was during all of our stuff,

782
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: Mike and we were up in Vancouver and Mike and

783
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: our fighting, and I was really short a few days

784
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: to some people because I was annoyed. I was, but

785
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't annoyed at them. I was annoyed at what

786
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: was a lot in my life. I wasn't around my child,

787
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: and when I'm not around my kid, I get I

788
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: get really um agitated and angry. Well I was gonna say,

789
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: don't you just think because it's easier, I mean, and

790
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: not to be like oh poor, but like it's just

791
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: easier to say like, oh my god, she's such a bit.

792
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say about a guy like oh

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00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: he was Like I feel like it's just easier to

794
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: say like a girl is like oh, she's on her

795
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: period or she's you know, there's so many more excuses

796
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: a guy could say about not a guy. A person

797
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: could say about a female actress versus with an actor,

798
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: you could be like, oh my god, he just he

799
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: was in the zone when her like he was like no,

800
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: he was rude and he was a dick. But you know,

801
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: instead Owen Wilson, who I hear is really nice and

802
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I like, I hate this, but he filmed a movie

803
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: at our house, which is just random, like you know,

804
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: the scouting what do they call the people that picked

805
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: the locations. Yeah, so they just happened to like knock

806
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: on the door and be like, oh, can you be in?

807
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, can we used your house? And like yeah,

808
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: surely when I thought it was Owen Wilson, But there

809
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: was this whole thing like where we weren't supposed to

810
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: take any pictures, which is like, yeah, I know, you're

811
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: not just any pictures. But at one point he was

812
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: on my daughter's swing. There's like big swings attached to

813
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: this tree in the front yard, under year old tree,

814
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: and he was like on the swing and I'm like,

815
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Harry, he's on your swing, and so

816
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: like I took a picture. Right he's like sitting in

817
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: the swinging. I'm like, maybe you know, feet away. I

818
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: took a picture and he came over to me and

819
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 1: he's like yeah. I'm like, well, I get called out.

820
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom said, it's I've been like this

821
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Speaker 1: ever since I was little, Like my Dado yelled. I mean,

822
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Speaker 1: I was like first in his years like reprimand me

823
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: even like hey, Emily, don't but like when he did that,

824
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: I like, I mean I didn't cry. I was like,

825
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: legitimately so upset that I wrote a letter that night.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a letter. I'm like, dear Owens, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I really sorry that I took the picture of you

828
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Speaker 1: and my daughter's swing. I certainly wasn't going to do

829
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Speaker 1: anything with it other than just put it in a

830
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: family scrapbook as a fond remembrance. If when you shot

831
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: this movie at home, like I felt the need to

832
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: write this letter. But so actors can be kind of

833
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: jerks too, But I wonder if I wonder if it's

834
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: just that they're so I mean, do you think it's

835
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: like an ego thing? Mike? What do you think? First? Too?

836
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, well it's funny. First of all, that sucks.

837
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: I was hearing that he wasn't Also he wasn't filming.

838
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like between takes. I should say that too, but

839
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Speaker 1: go ahead. Just coincidentally, Jane and I have a business

840
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: meeting the other day with uh one of our agencies

841
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: and stuff. And when I started talking about like business

842
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: and work, I'm very uh straight faced because I'm very

843
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of um, I'm not introverted, but I'm introspective in

844
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: that moment where like Jenna wants to like talk talk

845
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: talk talk, talking back and forth, back and forth my mouth.

846
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: I'm like in my head thinking everything out. So I'm

847
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: very like straight faced, very to the point, very serious,

848
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: um and just kind of that's just how I do

849
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: it when I when I'm dealing with business stuff and

850
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: and problem solving. So even Janna said, like one of

851
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: our Janna's a manager that was there was like, was

852
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Mike in a bad mood because that's just kind of

853
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: like how I do things when I work. Sometimes I

854
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: was like Jenna asked me, was like are you okay?

855
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm great, Like what are you talking about?

856
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: But I guess it's just something I kind of portray

857
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: without even trying. Granted I didn't go up to somebody

858
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: and give them take a picture of me. But that's

859
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: one of those things that we none of us really

860
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: have experience where if you had to deal with actual

861
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: paparazzi or actual people in your seven who knows how

862
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: jaded somebody gets and gets tired of it and when

863
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: they say please know pictures and someone doesn't listen to

864
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: a you know, a boundary that they set up, or

865
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: when all eyes are constantly you can't go. You know.

866
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't like to talk when on the ride sometimes

867
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: to work, just because I know it's going to be

868
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: a really long day. I have a lot of energy.

869
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm I have. So there's certain days where sometimes I

870
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: and I feel bad when the drivers asking me question

871
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: the driver from set to wherever we're going. And if

872
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,479
Speaker 1: I'm quiet, am I going to be seen as rude?

873
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: Or if I'm short, am I going to be seen

874
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: as rude or is it okay for me to say,

875
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm so sorry, I just don't really want

876
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: to talk right now. But I end up usually talking

877
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: and then I'm kind of short, which I'm like, oh,

878
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: they probably thought I was a total b but I

879
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: just I I need you have to preserve it down

880
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to And there's a good reminder that in the delivery

881
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: because of the key had said something about the sling

882
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: in a different way, or like, if you say, you know,

883
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: I don't really feel like talking, there's a good trick

884
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: for that. In the back of cars, I I say

885
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: on ste I'm just listening to a voicemail, and I

886
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: hold the phone up to my ear and just pretend

887
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: to listen to a voicemail that that isn't really there. Um,

888
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: that's a good little trick because I always filty for

889
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: that too. But um, and I think maybe you're right.

890
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: I think if you own your a microscope and you're like,

891
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: if you're just a normal person going about your business,

892
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: maybe you're short with someone you know once every was

893
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: a month. Let's call it. If you're famous in your

894
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: short with that person person once a month, that anecdote

895
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: is going to get told and retold and retold. So yeah,

896
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: that's I guess. I guess that's fair. But is this

897
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: story that you haven't told you but that you want

898
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: to tell? Yeah, you know what you you mean, like

899
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: a book or like a personal story, like a personal

900
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: like a story that you want to write in a book,

901
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: like some either whether off someone's life or I mean,

902
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm probably you can't answer because you know, spoiler alert,

903
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, is there some kind of that I

904
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: haven't talked about a royal book? Oh my gosh, wouldn't

905
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: be fun. What do you think of? Yeah, you know,

906
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: there's so many ideas I have and so many things

907
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: that I want to write about right now in the

908
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: book because The Waves that Find is written about the

909
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: summer before um, nine eleven, and I'm sort of fascinated

910
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: with that time, like just like Innocence, almost this time

911
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: before not eleven. I guess partly because I lived in

912
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: the city then. Um, so there's some you know, autobiographical

913
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: things in there, and um but you know, I write

914
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: about relationships, and so all the books are sort of

915
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: recurring themes in terms of the messiness of relationships, which

916
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons that I find the

917
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: two of you so appealing and refreshing, and you know,

918
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm so drawn to you as a couple in the

919
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: families because you're really you could so easily be one

920
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: of my books, you know, like exactly popped down. We

921
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: got material for days, I mean for days. But it's

922
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: like you, I think most people do, but they're too

923
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: afraid of you know. And as you explained your story,

924
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: it was sort of like forced, like you were forced

925
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: to share it because you wanted to share it on

926
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: your terms, which I thought. It's just an interesting part

927
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: of our conversation that night, your description of that and

928
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: how you sort of like, you know, you wanted ownership

929
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: of your own story, um, which was just just think

930
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: of how incredibly strong you are. But um, but yeah,

931
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: I think that most people have you know, met Our

932
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: lives are so messy, Our relationships are so messy. I

933
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: mean even you're you know, your your best friend, Like

934
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: if you go deep enough with the best friend, you're

935
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: going to have like the rocky patch. Certainly in a

936
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: marriage you have capatch. I mean there's a part of

937
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: one of the books where I say marriage is a

938
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: total mystery, even the two people who are in it

939
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: and I think that that's the case with everyone. And

940
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: I just think most people are so busy worrying about

941
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: the perceptions of who they are and who they want

942
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: to present to the world, that is that you you

943
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: don't really you don't really know what's happening with people,

944
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and they're just posting these things on social media and

945
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: making their lives look perfect, and because they're almost too afraid,

946
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: like what will people think, Well, do they still like

947
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: me if they know that my husband had an affair

948
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: or you know, which is really the messed up part.

949
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you're you're you're not only worried

950
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: about what you've done, but like what everyone in your

951
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: life has done. Like what if someone knows that my

952
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: child has a drug problem? Oh my gosh, the militiudge

953
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: me is not being a good mother, and maybe the

954
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with me. And you see

955
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, you know, as you when

956
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: you're when you're writing books and really examining relationships, you

957
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: know you, I mean, you guys see that too, don't

958
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: you When you're when you're doing your podcast and you

959
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: have people share these stories with you. Oh yeah, yeah, Um,

960
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: so you have three kids, I do and what, um,

961
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: what do you think the greatest piece of relationship advice

962
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: that you've gotten along the way from you know, just

963
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: life with your husband and three kids, and where you

964
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: guys are at now in terms of marriage or like

965
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, motherhood or just inch otherhood

966
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: and and and really like what would you what would

967
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: you tell your your kids when they get to that

968
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: young adult stage in their twenties and they're trying to

969
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: start to have serious relationships, Like what kind of relational

970
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: advice would you give them to compare to you and

971
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: your husband of what you all have done successfully? Well,

972
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: they're there, you know, I've always are fifteen, my daughters twelve,

973
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 1: so no one there have no boyfriend, girlfriend or anything

974
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: like that. But in terms of I think what we

975
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: what we try to sort of show by example and

976
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: the conversations that we have is that people, you know,

977
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: people aren't perfect, and we make mistakes, and we always

978
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, we always try, even if it's sometimes a

979
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: little bit of upfront to say, to own our mistakes

980
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: in front of our kids to each other, like I'm

981
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: sorry that that I didn't say that in a nice way.

982
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: That wasn't right um, even though later we could be

983
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, we can continue with the fight. But I

984
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: think I think it's importantly even if you just agree,

985
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: like just just sort of acknowledge that we're all flawed,

986
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: you know, and just sometimes something will happen and you know,

987
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: I have one one one of my sons, like a

988
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: little bit more emotional and health hell be up that

989
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: will have a family fight or an argument and he'll

990
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: be like, the whole weekend ruined, the whole thing is ruined,

991
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: the whole trip druin. And you know, we always say, no,

992
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: it's not it's not all that sings all ruined because

993
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: this happened or that happened. Like, you can recover, you

994
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: can bound back. You need to be resilient in your

995
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: own life and in your own relationships. You know, you

996
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: this isn't a fairy tale. We can have little setbacks,

997
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: we can have disagreements, and you know, ultimately the other

998
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: thing is just you're all on the same team. You know,

999
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have fights with people on your team, but

1000
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: you're on the same team. It's in a way, it's

1001
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: your family against the world. And I feel like YouTube

1002
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: really convey that in your podcast. It's like you ultimately,

1003
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, you have each other's backs, and I think

1004
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: that's that's so important. I don't know if that's that

1005
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: advice feels too general, but no, I think I think

1006
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: that's actually something that goes over looked at Jim and

1007
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I've talked about a lot, and we even talked about

1008
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: it when we had you. Is about just remaining keeping

1009
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: that mindset of your your team. You know, your spouse

1010
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: is your teammate. You don't have to be against each other,

1011
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: you can work together. I just think it's easy for

1012
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: people to make the other person out to be the

1013
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: enemy though, And I think that's what we've done earlier

1014
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: on in our relationship that we've really failed on, where

1015
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not your enemy, but you're treating me

1016
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: like your enemy, you know. I think that's that's hard,

1017
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: I think, But I think over the years of being married,

1018
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: you start to work together. Yeah, when you when you

1019
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: get so frustrated into that or you insecure with yourself,

1020
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: it's very easy to sort of draw those lines. Um.

1021
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: And I think that that's a whole separate sort of

1022
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: issue in a marriage versus like what you you know,

1023
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: the hold the family component, um, you know, it's it's

1024
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: almost like it's it's almost like it's okay for them

1025
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: to see you fight. They have to office see the

1026
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: resolution there and that you love each other no matter what. Um.

1027
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: And you know, we have the twin sons, so they

1028
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: fight all the time and it's just like, you know,

1029
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: the worst when they're fighting. And what we always say

1030
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: is do you like it when Daddy and I fight?

1031
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Will know, well, just you know stop then, like you everyone,

1032
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: we have five people in our family. Everyone's responsible for

1033
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: the happiness of our home life. If one person is

1034
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: being awful, which is usually my youngest daughter, we talked

1035
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: about that Jan our daughters, it can be difficult, um,

1036
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: but that's sort of everything off kilter, and you have

1037
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: sure ruined them, like you know, you cannot be as

1038
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: I always stay that, Harriet, you cannot hijack the happiness

1039
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: of this family. We do not negotiate with terrorists. That's

1040
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: a good life. It's a good line for you and

1041
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: your daughter. Well, that's a great wisdom from a fantastic writer. Emily.

1042
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, and we're so

1043
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: excited to connect with you again and have you on

1044
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: a new show. I know we're gonna try to come

1045
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: back to Atlanta soon. So friend, Emily you I just

1046
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: called her. M she does have a movie for you

1047
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: or some roles. So yeah, I'm just obsessed with there

1048
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: because I've read every single one of her books. I

1049
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: don't read any other author. There's not one other author

1050
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: that I read. She is the only one. And whenever

1051
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: I get it, I'm like, bye, Mike, like two days gone.

1052
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: That's so, she's the only author I can read. I

1053
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Speaker 1: have any emails for us? Sabrina is wondering what happened

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Speaker 1: with your One Tree Hill marathon? Is that still going?

1113
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: You know what? So look, sorry again, we spa this

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00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: to somebody recently. Every podcast, every wine down, people ask

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: you because someone asked about that, and I said, well,

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: I personally didn't realize that there's like two ninety six

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00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: episodes and he's one is like fifty five minutes. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but we don't have a spare two nine

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Speaker 1: hours to spend watching One Tree Hill. It's one. It's

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Speaker 1: a bit how do you eat an elephant one bite

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Speaker 1: at a time? You just gotta just gotta good after

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Speaker 1: one and show a week and the next thing you

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Speaker 1: know you got it. That. Yeah, but that means we

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Speaker 1: gotta say, you know that, we have to watch that

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Speaker 1: instead of some of the shows that were the morning show,

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Speaker 1: So I need to start that. It's so good. I

1127
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Speaker 1: know I've gotten buried in shows right now. It's only

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Speaker 1: I am okay, So sorry Sabrina and everyone else. She

1129
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: says that show was and is the ish. Still, I

1130
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: gotta start it. I'm gonna do it. I love the podcast.

1131
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: To see you at the Royal Oak Podcast. I've been

1132
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: counting down, so wind down to our our last week

1133
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Speaker 1: of this of this run. We're doing Chicago, which has

1134
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Speaker 1: sold out. Detroit, got a couple of seats loft for

1135
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Speaker 1: that in the Louisville the first week of December. It's

1136
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: gonna be so much fool Fourth and fifth, all right,

1137
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: Dana is about to turn twenty five. She's went with

1138
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend, who's twenty six, for two years. She says,

1139
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: I have three wonderful brothers. Were very big and intimidating.

1140
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: My boyfriend is laid back, and that ruggy is not

1141
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: scary looking at all. A little over a year ago,

1142
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I were out and we're approached by

1143
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: an irate man yelling at us over a parking space.

1144
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: I was very uncomfortable, very scared. My boyfriend did nothing.

1145
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: I was the one who had to calm this guy

1146
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: down when my boyfriend just stood there. I expressed my

1147
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: feelings to him. He apologized, He told me he would

1148
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: do whatever I needed him to do to help me

1149
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: feel safe. It's been over a year and I don't

1150
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: really know what it is exactly that I need from him.

1151
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping another occasion like that comes up

1152
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: so he can show me something different. This is the

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: man I want to settle down with and have a

1154
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: family with, but I'm not sure I can be confident

1155
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: in doing either of those things if I don't feel

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: safe with him. Amazing that, I mean, I can't even

1157
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: like he's just a fantastic email that's so good? So

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00:59:50,600 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: what So Okay, there's a few schools of thought on this. So, Dana,

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01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: if you were to trade places with the woman that

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01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: was dating the hothead who would get in a fight

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01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: snaptop or or make it worse or escalate it, you know,

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that most people in that relationship would probably

1163
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: trade places with you. But there is that happy medium.

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01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: I get what she's saying, though. She wants to feel

1165
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 1: protective and she wants to feel and I'm not saying

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: that means that her boyfriend has to basically threaten to

1167
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: beat this guy up, but something definitely needs to be said. Honestly,

1168
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: she just needs to assume the role because I've assumed

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01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: that role very early on, and I know you think

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Speaker 1: I'm not scary, but I really am. I saw very

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01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: early on that ties a lover and he's kind and

1172
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: he's genuine, and I'm just not so if you want

1173
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: to come at us, come at me, and here we go.

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01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there are there are several moments where Jana

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: is the more intimidating person. Yeah, you just gotta like fine, yeah,

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01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: it's fine. What do you mean? What what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: You like yell at cab people and oh no, I mean,

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01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pop off on anyone who looks

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: at me. But like, if someone's gonna get in my

1180
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: face about a parking spot, I'm going to have him

1181
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: take several seats and tell me he's to walk with

1182
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: the lord and calm down, like you know, something normal.

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01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw punches, But that's really funny. That's

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: where I mean, because you're you would sorry, you would

1185
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: you would throw you would throw punches, not now, not nowadays?

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01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: What days his football testaster, Yeah, not nowadays. I would

1187
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: not get in a fight over a parking spot. I

1188
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: don't have to talk for people like that, like account

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: So if someone threatened your safety, yes, yeah, or if

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Speaker 1: somebody pushed you in a bar and you're like, yo, dude,

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: He's like, what what situation should I be in a

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01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: bar where someone pushes me and says you would good question?

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Justin timber like circle. I mean I can get, I

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: can understand. I'm me, I'm sure. I mean you guys say,

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean Sarah, you're just owning the role. Well no,

1196
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: but there are no, no, there are times like you know,

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01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: we walk our dogs late at night and sometimes I

1198
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: get scared and I'm like, okay, realistically though, if I'm

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Speaker 1: walking this dog and someone comes at me and die,

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: what is he gonna do? He's gonna possibly like scream,

1201
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: run or run you know. So there's times where you

1202
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: know I'd like him to but I think for sure

1203
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 1: for this listener, obviously, if something happens, he's going to

1204
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: protect and assume the role. Like the parking spot thing. Okay,

1205
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe he was a little too chill, but like, no, no, no,

1206
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: if someone let me ask this, let me and let

1207
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: me have a point to this, to have a story

1208
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: of apologists. So I wonder it was about a parking spot.

1209
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: Did she do anything to piss this guy off? Like

1210
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: did Dana steal his parking spot? And is that why

1211
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: he's getting angry. But which uh the other day at

1212
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: Jolie's Thanksgiving dinner at her school, you beat the horn.

1213
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: It's a mom going into the thing because she took

1214
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: your guy, Michael, that's a mom going into the same school.

1215
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: Serious side, I'm just kidding. That's because we're in a

1216
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: fight and I was angry, and it doesn't But no,

1217
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 1: My point is if Dana did something to make this

1218
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: guy mad and she's like, stand up for me, why

1219
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: aren't you saving back? And if he's like, well you

1220
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of stole a spot, bro, wait, like how to

1221
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: lose a guy? My friends? You know, we brought this up.

1222
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: I think we might have talked about before. We don't

1223
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: need to bring it back up. Okay, yeah, all right,

1224
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: we won't bring it back up. Still subject okay, Yeah,

1225
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: this girl out of a salon called you an out

1226
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: for kind of sound means Jana wasn't purposely, but she

1227
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: sounded a little snarky to the woman at the nail

1228
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: salon about our appointment time. Serious, remember that, and the

1229
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: girls like calling Janna rude and Janna instead of looking

1230
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: back at the girl, she looks at me. She's like,

1231
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: are you gonna say anything? And I kind of look

1232
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: at Jane. I'm like, well, you're kind of bed. It

1233
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: was one instance, but any other time, oh my god. Okay,

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01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: do we have anymore Mark, Well, no, but just we

1235
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: haven't really given her any advice. I think it made

1236
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: a great conversation, but I think the advice, in my opinion,

1237
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: just defending guys that aren't very um traditionally macho. I

1238
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: guess you could say this may never come up again

1239
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: as long as you live. You know this, this may

1240
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: have been an isolated incident. I don't think you should

1241
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: put so much into this. You don't want to be

1242
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: married to your brothers, and you don't just love him

1243
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: for what he is and assume this is never going

1244
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: to happen. And if it's really bothering, you bring it

1245
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: up to him from a good place. But hey, that's

1246
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: still has been sitting with me really weird. And I

1247
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: just want to know that you will maybe say something

1248
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: or hire somebody to jump out at you in an

1249
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: aisle an alley, frank him, frank him responsible, Alright, love you,

1250
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: wind down next week.