WEBVTT - #354 - Adam22 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.920 Blutleg cav podcast Man special guests in here. My guy, 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:08.119 he's here. He's the hottest man on the internet. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:10.120 Am I. I mean, I'll take it. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:10.799 In more than one way. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.040 Adam twenty two bootleg keV. How you doing. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.280 I'm good man. I can't complain, brother, It's so crazy. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:20.800 So yesterday we're in my studio and I was like, oh, yeah, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.200 Adam twenty two is coming on tomorrow. I told my 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.639 producer and there was like this random white dude in 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.080 the studio and he was like, oh, that's the guy, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.199 right who like let the dude fuck his wife? And 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.080 I was like yeah, and he asked. He was like, wait, 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.720 you don't know who Adams twenty two is. Like Otherwise 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.479 he's like, now what does he do? 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:39.600 Yeah? It does feel like that there's a lot of 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.960 people who just found out about me from this, which 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.040 is it's. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.879 Good for your business? Yeah, How has the metrics changed 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.560 in terms of like just just like on a basic level, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.960 like let's say just your ig And since all this 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:54.280 happened with Lenna, you're what? 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:56.920 I think I might have gained like fifty thousand followers 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.720 on Instagram in like sixty or. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.520 Seven on Twitter, So. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.800 Just obviously that doesn't like matter that much, but it 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.360 is kind of indicative of Oh, okay, there's a lot 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:08.400 of new eyeballs on me. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.800 I'm curious too, because, like I've seen obviously, I just saw. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.240 I think I just saw something on TikTok Lenna on 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:19.360 why you guys chose Jason Love. Okay, how long was 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.679 you guys get married? Yeah, beautiful wedding was in Italy. Yeah, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.319 it looked crazy, thank you. And then you guys appeared 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.080 to have gone on the most elaborate honeymoon slash family 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:29.800 vacation ever. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.399 That is the most baller shit that we've ever done. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.360 And it was like a month, right, there. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.120 Was so much money, the nicest hotels ever. It was 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:41.400 like just surrounded by real deal rich people and how 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:45.360 much like you drop in the month? Oh, probably six figures. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.280 Six figures on the honeymoon. Yeah, damn well, it looked 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:48.880 like it for sure. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.080 It was fucking crazy. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.000 And then you guys come back, and it feels like 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:55.080 this kind of happens, not necessarily right away, but it 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.640 feels like it almost happens rather quickly. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.160 We have been talking about it basically since the beginning 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.440 of the year, around January, we did like a TikTok 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.840 with Jason Love while we were at the av end. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.120 I remember saying that, yeah, and it went crazy, just 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.920 us joking around about the idea of her sleeping with 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.800 another guy. So we already kind of had the idea 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.960 in our head, and we had an idea of like, oh, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.640 this is going to be viral, like really viral like 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.240 this this this might be just the thing we need 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.720 to sort of switch things up and get people really 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.800 really excited about it. But we definitely didn't know to 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.240 what extent it was going to explode, because she had 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.560 a dollar amount in her head that she told me 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.880 at one point, and she has to date made like 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.600 fifty dollars fifty times. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.800 That the dollar round, meaning how much money she thinks 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.080 she would make if she were to do that clip and. 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:47.280 Yes, and then it's like that times fifty. Whoa, yeah, 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.440 like it was so much bigger than we ever would 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:49.840 have dreams. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.320 Well, this is what I was going to say, because 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.920 like I would say this dude, like it feels like 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.000 you guys really plan this out in such a meticulous way, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.520 and I've I feel like you've done such a great 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:06.480 job of like mastering the virality of this moment. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.920 I feel like I get being a public persona a 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.000 lot more than I ever did before. And I feel 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.840 like I get going viral a lot more. I feel 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.280 a lot. It's ironic. I feel like this gigantic man 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:24.160 putting dick in my bitch really kinda like helped me 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.960 to like rediscover my voice because I feel like so 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.960 much less scared or intimidated or worried about what I 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.200 say on camera or whatever. Like, after the insanity of 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.000 all this, it just feels like, oh. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.600 Like you could say whatever fuck you want at this point. 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.240 Yeah, like, oh, Soldier Boy said something about me on 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.480 live or I'm gonna go off on Soldier Boy, Like 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.680 oh fucking Cowboys said some lame shit about me on podcasts. 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.360 I'm gonna go off on Cowboy Like I'm just not worried. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.360 And it's like, even just like my Instagram comments, I 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.040 was always kind of combing that shit and just like 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.480 restricting people who would say rude shit or whatever. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:59.280 And at a certain point during all this, it just 0:03:59.320 --> 0:03:59.840 became like. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.720 What's the point of even looking at this shit? 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.320 Who cares? Yeah, I used to like wake up and 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:05.440 search my name on Twitter. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:06.520 Yeah, I've done it. 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.840 That is not happening anymore. 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.120 You can't do it anymore. It's over now, it's over. Yeah, 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.400 it's pretty Yeah, it's crazy. Well I was going to say, like, 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.520 when you guys sat down and said, Okay, we're gonna 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.719 do this, did you map out the promo? Did you 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.880 map out Okay, we're gonna do this, this and this 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.000 leading up to it, and then afterwards we're going to 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.919 do this, this and the like, how much of like 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.120 some of the content we saw was like absolutely planned, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.160 because a lot of it felt like I was like, oh, 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.000 you're like you were, You're really turning up and like 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:37.200 mullan into a lot of this. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.040 Most of it wasn't like planned, plan like in advance. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.279 It was mostly just me and her kind of just 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.320 talking about it and rolling with the punches and just 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.120 seeing what happened and like you know, you know, like 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.200 I had Okay. It was like there was one day 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.360 where Jason Love did an interview a couple of weeks 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.240 ago and basically it was like kind of talking spicy, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.839 being a little bit disrespectful. This was not planned. This 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.200 was just him and not knowing how to act or 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.159 not knowing how to deal with the spotlight, you know, 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:06.160 And I'm not gonna lie. Like when I first seen it, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.479 I had like a day where I was kind of 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.120 thinking about it and I was annoyed. And then like 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.200 as I was going to bed that night, I just 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.799 pictured in my head me making a TikTok in which 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:22.200 I threatened him and blacklisted him from my wife's vagina. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.320 And I was just laying in bed by myself, just 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.200 laughing so hard thinking about the idea of me making 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.400 this TikTok. And then I woke up the next morning 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.080 and I made the TikTok and I got like five 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.560 million views. And I don't know, it's kind of been 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.320 that over and over and over where it's like, oh, 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.880 like you have no reason to like get emotionally involved 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.080 in this or whatever. You can just fuck with people 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.480 and troll people, and the end result is that people 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.880 don't really know what was real and what wasn't real, 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:51.880 because there was like little parts of it there but 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:52.640 it respected. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.120 But a lot of trolling, like a lot of like 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.680 you know, like you said, like that video you're talking 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.320 about like when you're like you're banned from LA, like. 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.359 You're bad for my husband yeah, it was just like okay, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.120 all right, well uh but but like you said, it works, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.880 and like I also want to like because obviously is 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:18.400 there there has there been any real world complications because 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.479 we I mean, I don't believe I mean, anything we 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.080 see on the internet, I don't really look too much 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.720 into because you've kind of mastered the internet, right, Has 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.359 there been an actual any like real world complications in 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.200 terms of the attention, Like has it made it harder 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:32.480 for Lenna to do certain stuff? 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:34.760 How does her family feel about everything? 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.080 Like is I mean, our families are really cool about 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.800 it in the sense that our families have never mentioned 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:42.360 the porn thing to either of. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.560 Us ever ever. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.039 Wait wait wait never never, like like your whole time 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.840 being together, it's never gotten brought up. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.280 I'll hear about some shit here and there, Like I'll 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.760 hear about, Oh, my mom said something to my sister 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.440 about it, and like asked her a question about, like, oh, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.680 why is Adam on the cover of this you know website? 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.880 Or like why did why did the New York Post 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.280 post about Adam buying a Lamborghini. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.359 Which is not not real? You know, a lot of 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:09.760 even my. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.960 Close friends thought that there were like A few people 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.120 have come over my house and been like, where do 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.920 you keep the Lamborghini. I'm like, oh, yeah, that video. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:16.400 Well I wasn't gonna say that because would hit me 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.960 and you were like, hey man, you got some prop money? 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.560 Oh yeah, because I was going to give her like 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.120 one hundred grand or two hundred grand at the same time, 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.000 but I couldn't find any prop money. Yeah. But yeah, no, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.040 our families just don't mention it. They're just kind of 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:28.600 too polite. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.400 It's kind of like the elephant in the room a 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.480 little like when you go over to the Armenia and 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.400 get togethers. It doesn't get brought up at all. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.240 No wow, which is crazy, right, Like they just are 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.120 too polite, which thank god, because I don't want to 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.880 fuck talk about that shit with them, and that's all. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.880 I'm just gonna one word answer the fuck out of them. 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.160 If they did try to bring it up to me 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:45.960 or whatever, I'm just gonna laugh and roll with it. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.640 But yeah, so there really hasn't been anything too like, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.840 like I mean, obviously you guys, I mean you've always 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.360 been kind of famous, like in the last seven years, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.120 eight years, right, it's been, but twenty fifteen sixteen when 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:56.720 you really started. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.800 Yeah, I mean I started No Jumber in twenty fifteen, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.240 and even before that, I had like ten years of 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.840 being this very prominent BMX personality which kind of like 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:06.120 allowed me to get used. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.200 So it's safe to say, like six straight years you've 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.040 been kind of like a thing on the you know where, 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.760 like my kid knows who you are, you. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.120 Know, like look like it. 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.560 But I would say now it's different, right. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.680 Definitely feels like we hit like a different level of that. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.960 And even today we announced that we're doing this thing 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:25.080 that's like a YouTube slash only fans live stream where 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.840 basically we're going to do a big ten person podcast 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.960 with a bunch of porn stars, and then the other 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.520 room we have an OnlyFans live stream going at the 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.800 same time. So it's basically gonna be like an orgy 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:36.960 with a big group of people. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.080 And they're just swapping. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.160 Kind of going back and forth in and out and 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.440 like the comments, like like, it just feels like there's 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:45.800 so much more attention on everything that we do porn 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.600 wise now, but at the same time, we also just 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.440 have this massive wave of hate with everything we do too. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.840 But like on Twitter or TikTok, getting comments and getting 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.080 hate is like one of the biggest things that makes 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.679 your shit viral get promoted. So like, I have random 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.720 condomic clips on my TikTok now that have like three 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.719 million views just because like a couple of thousands the 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.280 people stopped in to say like, haha, you're a cook 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.440 or you know, you're a piece of shit, or you're 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.080 a terrible parent or whatever. And I'm like, Okay, well, 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.520 if all I have to deal with is this, and 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.560 you guys are gonna make everything I do go viral, Okay. 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.000 There are certain things that are like, can you explain 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.520 to me some of the unwritten rules or code of 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.360 the porn game, because you would share some information that 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.640 we won't talk about off camera the last time I 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.600 saw you, uh huh, some details about your video or 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.960 Lenna's video rather with Jason Love that we won't talk about. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.560 But there is a code, right like, and I think 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:42.640 you said that Jason Love maybe broke the code a little. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.960 I mean, nobody has ever explicitly told me that there's 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.000 a code, but I definitely feel like there's an expectation 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.920 that you keep it a little bit gangster in terms 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.400 of the whole porn thing, because if you're on set, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:54.440 you're gonna see. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.080 A lot of weird shit. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.040 You know, you're gonna see dudes having to jerk their 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.120 dick off for forty five minutes to get hard. You're 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.600 gonna see guys having a pop eye aggress to get hard. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.760 You're going to see, you know, girls who are there 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.560 on their period so they have to go and like 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.199 shove some fucking sponge thing in there and to clean 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.000 out whatever kind of stuff might be in there. There's 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.000 all kinds of shit. And like, I realized this because I, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.160 like the one time I did an anal threesome with 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.920 Riley Reed and my girl back in the day in 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.440 our backyard, which is kind of hard to imagine now. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.600 We probably wouldn't do that these days since we have 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.200 like a family and everything. But you know, there was 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.600 some some leakage, some shit flying. You know, it's happened, 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.600 and you know I had a turd on my knee 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.559 at one point. Stuff. And then I went on the 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.840 podcast that week and I just talked about it, and 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.400 my girl had to tell me, like, yo, like, I 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.320 don't think girls are going to necessarily want to do 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.120 anal threesomes with us, if you're just going to be 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 airing out the grossest things that happened, And I was like, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.280 that is a really good point. And so anything like 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.960 messy that happens on set, I feel like it's kind 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.960 of our responsibility to not talk about it. 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.720 If a dude can't get hard, it's like we're. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.280 Not going to clown them, We're just going to kind 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:02.120 of ignore it. To me, also, probably within the porn 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.760 guy's code should be like you don't like, you know, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.480 especially if a fucking well known dude like me is 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.560 going to let you fuck their wife on camera for 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.000 porn content, you should probably not be critical of him 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:15.959 in any way, or. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.120 You might be respectful. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.040 Yeah, you know, I don't do this weird like dick 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.760 comparison thing or whatever, even though obviously yeah, you have 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.360 a huge hog. But it's like, you just don't need 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.120 to say that. And I feel like, now if we 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.719 shoot with any more guys, that will be very much 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.880 a conversation is like, Okay, this is the this is 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.640 the way that we can talk about this, and this 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.679 is what we can and we need this, you know, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.560 to stay on the same page in terms of all this. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.240 But I feel like he he he got a lot 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.520 of hate for maybe not beating it up right and 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.600 that I guess he probably had never dealt with that before, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.040 so he was probably trying to compensate for that by clarifying. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.679 And like, on your end, you're probably like, thank you, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.440 I mean, thanks for not like, yeah, I've seen like 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.000 some of these fucking scenes this guy's and he's fucking 0:11:58.240 --> 0:11:59.719 you know, And I thought about that. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.120 After, like, oh wow, Like I kind of got off 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.000 easy there because you know, I didn't really think about 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:07.520 what kind of sex they were going to be having beforehand, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.600 and the scene that they did was very much like 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:15.000 very you know, an easy entry point for me in 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.920 the sense that it was not yeah, some Brian Gosling 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.560 hot shot hot shot hookups or whatever the fuck that is. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.560 It's just like the most aggressive type of porn obviously. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.640 So yeah, I mean, I guess he did kind of 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.040 do me a favor in that Regred. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.840 Shout out to h Is he gonna come on the podcast? 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.000 I don't know. I don't know what the fuck he's doing. 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.400 I heard he like flew to Toronto to do six Buzz, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:37.840 So who knows what they're gonna ask. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.800 Him, he's just he's just he's he's he probably this 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.120 probably raised his profile to like a I mean, he 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.640 was already a pretty popular guy, I'm sure. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.400 Yeah, But the weird thing and porn is like you 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.480 could be really popular and porn and then you're still 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.080 kind of like a regular person to most people. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:53.360 Right, especially if you're a dude. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.640 Yeah, oh, especially if you're a dude. And even like 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.240 you know, sometimes I think about that, like I can't 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.960 get a little baby interview, I can't get a car 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.960 interview or UZI vert interview, but it's no problem for 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.559 me to get a Savannah Bond piece of content or 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.439 Angela White or all these like super huge girls are 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:12.920 much more approachable and like, you know, humble than the 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:13.800 top rappers. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:19.160 You know what, what is the like expectation now moving forward, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.280 is this, are you guys gonna make her doing the 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:23.680 dude seeing a regular thing. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.679 We're definitely gonna do more of it, But I would say, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.560 like the frequency is probably the thing that's kind of 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.720 up for debate that we're still kind of figuring out. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.760 And like, you know, there's some stuff that I really 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.040 don't mind at all, Like like I probably would have 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.120 been real nervous about it before, but like me fucking 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.560 her with another guy, I don't really like feel any 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.520 type of way about that anymore, Like that's no problem, 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:45.560 Like I would definitely do that. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:47.560 Would you do the would you do the DP? 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:49.480 Yeah? 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.439 I feel like that's on the bucket list. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.439 But then that's like a dick. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.760 On dick Yeah, And you know it's like, I'm not 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.560 gonna fuck a dude keV don't. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.000 I don't listen. I don't want you to fuck it. 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.640 But if you're gonna do the DP, there's no way 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.720 that your guys dicks don't touch or ball slap or 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.559 just you're crossing swords. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.600 I gotta do it one time before I die, Okay, I. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:12.880 Mean you gotta do I mean, obviously you're married, so 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:13.320 it's gotta be. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.640 On leg bumps another dude's leg. It's like whatever we 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:17.600 all been in the gym locker room before or whatever. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.000 But also like I don't know, like it's got to 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.800 be a homie. I think it's got to be something 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:22.760 I'm like real cool with. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.920 Would you ever do anything with the trans porn star? 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.600 Even if it was like fucking your wife with a 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:30.400 trans porn star? 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.280 I don't feel like I want to turn our sex 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.800 life into a culture war thing, you know, probably just 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.560 I'm not trying to like prove my wokeness or anything. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.280 And I fuck with a lot of trans women and stuff, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.880 like I have had a lot of them on the podcast. 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.800 I had m ros on the podcast. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.800 I think I saw a little bit of the you 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.680 guys did like a panel, right, it was like. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I got to meet a lot 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:57.440 of really cool trans people in that situation and everything. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.240 But my whole thing is like I'm not really trying 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.600 to do anything on camera for money that I wouldn't 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.840 want to do it really in my private life as well. Yeah, 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.920 so like I don't you know, and even like I'll 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.280 like I'm not personally really like mega attracted to a 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.840 BBW that's like four hundred pounds. Would I maybe do 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:20.320 it on camera? Like maybe, yeah, like that doesn't so bad. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:21.360 Would you pop a blue chew? 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.600 I might have to pop something I don't know, Yeah, 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.640 my Papa Energy drink, my popa C four. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.680 Let's not give them any free fucking publicity here, right, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.080 That's why I have their logo turned away from this 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.080 guy's over here. Got the Celsius on the floor. Man, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.040 we're over here drinking fucking energy drinks like a couple 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.200 of real white guys, like a. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.360 Couple of real Arizona and New Hampshire white boys. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:47.200 Right, oh shit, now, you know. The one thing I 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.160 would say is like I've you know, I have for 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.280 whatever reason. I think people think we're like a lot, 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.200 like we're cool. Like I think me and you are cool. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.880 I think we're friends, you know. Like, but I have 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.360 so many people in my life life that came to 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.680 me like I'm like your representative and they're like, yo, son, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.800 what's up? But your boy? And I'm like, at the 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:13.000 end of the day, this guy's a professional porn star 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.600 who's fucked however, many hundreds of women since he's been 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:21.000 in his relationship. To me, it's not that big of 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.920 a deal, right that she gets won. 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.440 Yeah, I mean it is weird because it's like, yeah, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.600 I have fucked all these chicks with her, and nobody 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.880 really like ever made a big deal about it, like 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:32.720 you know, and. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.560 It's a double standard thing. And it's also kind of 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.960 because we're like we're in hip hop culture, and I 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.160 think that's where it kind of like people are like yeo, 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:40.440 like bro. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.320 Like yeah, and I expected like hip hop to have 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.080 strong opinions about it, but I didn't really expect there 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.480 to be like twenty Barstool articles and you know. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.440 To have like Andrew Tate, Logan Paul all. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.239 These people like discussing it in depth on their podcast 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.440 and shit, you know, I didn't expect to have everyone 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.760 in the whole world having conversations about it, which surprised me. 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.280 There was I want to say, I saw an old 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.719 interview clip. It might have been when you were on Flagrant. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.280 Were you pretty much I could be You're right. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:12.240 Yeah, I shut the door on it. 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.440 You pretty much shut the door hard on Like what changed? 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.919 Which is weird because maybe a year before that, I 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.760 remember I went on Academics' podcast and he asked if 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.679 I would ever do a threughsome with another dude and 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.800 my girl, and I basically like left the door open 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.480 for it and was just kind of like, you know, yeah, 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:30.720 I would be open to it, like I would be 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.359 interested in it. I didn't say that I was going 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.520 to do it, but I said I'd be open to 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:37.199 the idea. And I remember, even at that time, just 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.000 me suggesting that I would maybe be down for it 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.719 was so viral and such a big thing, and academics 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.120 freaked out and could not believe that I was acknowledging it. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.080 And even though I'm glad there was a clip I saw, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.199 like because I talk on interviews so much that I 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.280 forget what I say, but I'm glad I said the 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:56.119 same thing. I said, like I would consider it, you know, 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.199 And so yeah, like the clip went viral, tho it 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.280 was me saying that I definitely wouldn't do it, which 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.359 is pretty funny, but uh yeah, I mean what changed 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.760 is basically just me getting a little bit more open 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.359 minded as time went by, and like, you know, me 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.320 and her talked about like swinging off camera and like 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.399 hooking up with like a different couple together or something 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:19.560 like that. Take a Friday night, go out on the town, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.800 get a hotel room, something like that maybe. But then 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.360 we were like, well, if we're ever going to do that, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.280 like we probably should film. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.000 It, and if we're gonna we should make some money. 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.879 Yeah, you should probably like make your first scene with 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.880 another guy, like a big blowout thing. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:38.000 Paul's The swinging world is crazy. My cousin and his 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.800 ex wife were swingers when I was growing up, okay, 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.520 and I'd be at his house and this shit would 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.000 just be going down. Bro. I'd be like fourteen to 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.960 fifteen with all my homies from school and we'd be 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.560 watching his wife fucking chopped down on another Chick'd. 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:52.560 Be watching it. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.920 Oh yeaheah, fourteen, He'd literally my cousin literally be like, hey, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.639 you guys, go outside and just I'll leave the do 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.800 I'll leave the window cracked. Wow. Shout out to James, 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:01.679 James crazy. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.240 I feel like you have a duty if you're living 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:05.840 that lifestyle to not have fourteen year olds around. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.000 Well, it was yeah, yeah. My cousin James was like 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.800 I think he was like twenty one at the time, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.919 so it was we were like more friends than like 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.920 he was like my og, but they were they were 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.359 they'd go to these like retreats and they would go 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.920 to these resorts and like, yeah, it's like a thing, bro. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:21.600 Like I mean, because Zumy sent me a link to 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.280 a book about polyamorous relationships that because I've never read 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.440 about it or researched it or even really thought about it, 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.160 because me and my girl are not polly in that sense, 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.040 Like we just do porn with other people. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.399 We've do it for content. 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.040 Yeah, and even like you know, we haven't hooked up 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.640 with another girl off camera in probably like three four 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.840 years at this point, so it's definitely like not something 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:43.840 I'm super familiar with. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:45.199 We've just been doing it for content. 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.560 But you know, even like my girl yesterday, like we 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.400 were on the Jason Lee podcast and she just kind 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.679 of said like, yeah, you know, if you were on 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.120 a trip and you ended up fucking some girl, as 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.360 long as you told me, like or as long as 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:57.199 you were safe about it, I. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.160 Don't think I would really care that much. I'm like, wow, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:00.840 Like you're you're progressive. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.280 Your mind is changing a bit, because I remember when 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:05.800 me and her first guy in the relationship, she made 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.119 it very clear like you're on tour, you're on the 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.160 like if you're on the road, yeah around, but yeah, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.160 she was like, I'm not really fucking with that anymore. 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:14.760 Like I could get away with it for the first 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:16.480 year or two of our relationship, but then at some 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.080 point she's like, I'm not fucking with that. I'm going 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.199 to leave you if you just fuck some cheating right, 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.520 like it's actual cheating, you know. But like apparently she's 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.359 kind of softened up on that a bit, although I 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.520 don't really trust these hose enough to even do that. 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.160 I don't want to be in a hotel room alone 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:31.640 with a girl. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.760 You know, you'd be on fucking read it with your 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:35.200 ass out. 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.000 I don't trust these bitches at all, not even that 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:38.879 this is gonna lie and I say that I did something, 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:39.359 you know. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.560 Oh yeah, especially with you bro. 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:44.479 Yeah yeah, I like doing content with her because then 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.560 I have a guardian who's actually like observing it, and 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.000 nobody's able to ever. And that's why even if I 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:51.880 was going to shoot form with just me and another girl, 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.320 I would definitely have like a real filmer, so at 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:55.639 least I could have you have a witness. 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.800 Yeah, you mentioned earlier that, like there was a certain 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:04.080 point in time where you said, Uzzi, Cardi, you're not 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.119 getting these interviews. I remember the really nobody is but 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.840 you're right right, Yeah, that's that's a fair point. Like 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.520 big Boy probably to get Cardi. B oh, I meant 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.120 Playboy Cardi, but yeah, oh Cardi, Well yeah, you never 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:18.200 did Playboy Cardi ever. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.280 He came to the studio and stuff when we were 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.840 still downtown, and like I remember I even had a 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.520 conversation with him at a concert and or a show 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.719 rather in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, where I was like, bro, 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.399 let's do this interview, and I remember he was like, 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:33.720 I ain't trying to do no long shit. I'll do 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:34.640 a twenty minute joint. 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.359 I did like a twenty minute interview with him at 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.719 the radio station. It was horrible. 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:38.840 It was hard, tell you too. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.200 It was like talking to like a piece of drywalls. 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:41.399 Right. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:42.960 If you watch that Big Boy interview he did, it 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.040 is fucking the worst thing ever. 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:47.000 But yeah, I mean, like it's always weird with shit 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:48.520 like that, where it's like, fuck, if I had just 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.920 tried a little bit harder, I could have a Playboy 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.199 Cardi interview from twenty sixteen. That's fucking crazy. 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.600 But I probably have like fucking thirty million views or something. 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.280 I probably did, like you know, a million other interviews 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.600 that were easier to get instead of working on that one. 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.520 That was like I was gonna say, like, obviously, you 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.240 have a huge platform. You still have a very important platform, 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.080 but there was an era in which your platform was 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.040 literally you had a fucking record deal. Your platform was 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.680 like a career maker for up and coming artists. 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.200 Because in like twenty sixteen, there were so few options 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.280 for an artist. Like the perfect example of it is 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.399 six ' nine, Like I met six nine and twenty 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.000 seventeen or some shit, and then he proceeded to harass 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.240 the fuck out of me for like six months or 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.200 eight months or some shit, trying to get an interview, 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.200 and then finally he did the song with Trippy, which 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.280 I felt was like, oh, okay, he's actually becoming a 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:36.760 real thing. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:38.240 So I did the interview with him. 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.480 But that was his first like song that really like actually. 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.959 Yeah yeah, but I remember I showed that to hell 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.720 Rel and he wasn't feeling it at the time. But 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.040 you know, six x nine had to go to somebody 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:53.600 like me to try to get an interview, whereas like 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.439 even right now in New York, I can think of 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:58.760 like eight different platforms that he could go fuck with 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.000 if you're on the radar, yeah yeah, it's like there's 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.879 so many different people that you could fuck with, Whereas now, 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.680 like if I get a lot of hate for like, oh, 0:23:08.720 --> 0:23:10.720 you changed your shit up and didn't just keep doing 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.199 underground artists interviews. What I think people don't realize is 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:17.000 that No Jumper as a business would never have lasted 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.320 in the long run if I just kept doing only 0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:23.560 underground wrapper interviews, like building out casts and hosts and 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.880 expanding into doing interviews with comedians and YouTubers and porn 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.520 stars and whoever. Like I needed to do all that 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.719 shit in order to like keep the boat afloat, you know, 0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:36.840 because the media space just became so flooded so fast, 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.399 and even especially now where everybody wants to get paid 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:43.000 for interviews and shit. I mean, like like in terms 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:44.800 of like really ambitious ones. 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.400 No, for sure, I'm not sure how bandman Kevo try 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.480 to crack me for like ten grand and I laughed. 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.439 I literally said, loll I'll pass. 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:55.400 So what that is amazing? Yeah, I know I get 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:56.800 hit with that all the time. But people want five 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.520 or ten grand who are like have no business asking 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.879 for money, and I'm just like, wow, the game is fucked. 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:04.520 But I was going to say, like, because like you said, 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.920 like you did, I mean, obviously everyone should evolve, and 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.800 the business model for you as evolved. But I remember, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.639 like even talking to like you'll go back to that 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.440 twenty seventeen twenty eighteen era of No Jumper. I remember 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.640 talking to Sasha, who I think you would were talking 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:20.920 to a certain point time, maybe doing a No Jumper festival. 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.480 You had the single you were you were so dived 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.639 in on the music. Do you remember was there like 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:31.399 a point in time or a moment that you can 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.240 kind of point to where you were like, I gotta 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.080 be more than this if this is gonna really last. 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.800 I guess I've just always been like doing everything I 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.920 could possibly do to try to keep the brand going 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.439 and keep the brand afloat and keep content going, and 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.679 just figuring out how I could make content on a 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.480 regular basis that would do well with the audience and stuff. 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.480 And so yeah, I mean definitely me getting canceled in 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.080 twenty eighteen was probably the biggest factor in terms of like, oh, 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.520 now you have some percentage of artists that are not 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.000 going to want to fuck with you because they're on 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:01.560 some woke. 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.679 Because they have this perception of whatever happen because that's 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:05.080 when you lost your deal with Atlantic. 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.359 Right exactly, And they even like, you know, the it 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.679 might not be them, but like they got a manager 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.520 and this manager is trying to scare them out of 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.520 working with us because of the fact that I've got 0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.119 my own bullshit or whatever. So I think that was 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:21.600 definitely one moment where it became like, oh, you're gonna 0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.680 have to really figure this shit out, because maybe your 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.679 initial game plan is not it's like a little simple. 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:29.560 It's not going to work. 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:32.119 Out necessarily if you just stay focused on just talking 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.000 to these underground rappers, you know. And I always just 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.080 I always was ambitious in the sense of just wanting 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.640 to talk to everybody. And sometimes I do go back 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.879 in time and think like, well, what if I had 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.480 just interviewed the cool up and coming wrappers and I 0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.560 had just kept my shit super selective. I think the 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.520 brand in terms of its coolness might have persevered, like 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.280 it would have seemed cooler, like more of a of 0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:00.280 an honor, more exclusive. But at the same time, I 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.160 just felt like all of these competitors springing up all 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.520 around us, and it was like, I just am not 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.600 gonna be able to just do this underground rapper thing forever, 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.960 because even back in twenty eighteen, I could feel that 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.159 it was slowing down pretty dramatically in the sense of 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.960 like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, there was a 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:19.800 new underground rapper every fucking day. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.720 It was also like an era of SoundCloud and underground 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:27.399 music that was like not being represented I guess as 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.280 to where, and like the ig blogs hadn't really tooken 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:30.960 all the way over. 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.040 Yeah yeah, I mean now, it's just there's just so 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:37.320 much shit. It's tough to stand out. And like a 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.439 lot of the best content that I do now is 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:43.560 just bringing interesting personalities together, whether it's like the consistent 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.600 personalities on the channel or you know, like yesterday I 0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:50.240 had a destiny the Twitch streamers Dude and Whack one hundred, 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:50.840 Like who. 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.159 Would have thought them to whatever sit down? 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:53.840 So I would say, like I was so happy. I 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.840 was just geeked up off that, just like I cannot 0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.640 believe that I has brought these two motherfuckers together. And 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.200 you know, I'm always just kind of trying to think 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.400 of stuff that'll be interesting for people like that, because 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:06.720 you just don't have a new Trippy Red or a 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.399 new little Uzi or a new ex to talk to 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.520 every week. You might get a couple of those a year, 0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.840 but it just doesn't you know, they just don't happen 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:16.359 that often. 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.000 That's crazy because if you think of like I think 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.080 it's somebody like your early relationships with guys, like ex 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.040 with Juice WRLD you know, when Juice Wrar was alive 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:28.000 obviously legend. Has there been any of those relationships that 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.440 you carried into twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:35.159 where you're like, maybe this person switched up a little, 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.120 Like I can't get this person on my platform even 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.919 though I was there with them at the studio or 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.480 going on it, you know all the time. 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.600 Yeah, Like I hear I talk about that all the time, 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.840 how he was the first person who Amigo's interview. 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.720 Yeah, but I feel like it's different though. I feel 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.840 like it's different though, because I feel like you actually, 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.040 like we were with these guys, like I remember seeing 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.119 your vlogs or you'd be at shows like you actually 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.520 were like hanging out doing drugs with guys. 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.760 But like all the dudes early on that I had 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.399 these strong relationships. 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:00.920 With, they're dead pretty much. 0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.720 I was gonna say they most of them passed away. 0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:04.920 Yeah, And even by the time you get to twenty 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.720 eighteen or twenty nineteen, I think of like, oh, I 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.680 did Jack Harlow interview when he wasn't really on, and 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:13.040 that I assume has a lot of views, and it's 0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.119 like pretty sick that I got a Jack Carlow interview 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.399 early on. But it's also like I hung out with 0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.960 Jack Harlow for five minutes before we did the interview, 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.200 and then we did the interview, and then I hung 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.960 out with them for five minutes afterwards, and then I 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.280 never saw him again after that. I just I don't 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.199 build these crazy strong friendships with the artists in the 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.359 way that I used to, which sometimes I look at 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:33.280 people like you, who I feel like, you do really 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.760 good with the relationship side of things because you're in 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.280 the clubs and you're booking these dudes, and you with 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.880 the radio is a really good way to like maintain 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.000 these relationships and stuff. And a lot of the people 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.080 that I look at that I kind of have regrets. 0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:49.040 It's like, you know, how did I get a Suicide Boys. 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.240 Interview with millions and millions of views and then I 0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.400 never went out of my way to hang out with 0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.160 them ever again after that, even though I got this 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.360 crazy piece of content super early in their career, and 0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.560 it's really be because I was just focused on the 0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.080 next thing, and like, you know, sometimes I regret that 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.040 I didn't do more to like nurture relationships. But also 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:12.080 it just feels like there's so many potential relationships because 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.040 of the fact that I just interviewed so many fucking 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.920 people and I'm so busy that you know, That's one 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:18.640 thing I miss about the stores that I would just 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.320 have a lot more like casual interactions with people and 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.560 it was just kind of happening all around me, whereas 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.040 now it's like I really kind of rely on my 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:29.960 publicist or dming people to get content going. 0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.080 Yeah, you're because you're also not like going out like 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:32.560 you used. 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:33.240 To at all. 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:35.000 I haven't been out like I used to see. 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.200 I used to see you and your girl shit all 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.880 the time, concerts, fucking festivals, whatever it was. 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.920 Guys, Like Saturday, I have a premiere for my BMX brand. 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.880 We have a BMXTVD coming out, and I know I'm 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.480 gonna have to be out of the house until like 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:48.920 at least eleven, and I'm trying to like steal myself 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.640 in preparation for that, because being out of the house 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.840 until eleven just sounds kind of fucking crazy to me. 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:54.880 At this point in my life. 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.040 I just yeah, But then at the same time, I'm 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.680 talking to Jason Lee yesterday, and I'm realizing this motherfucker 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.000 has great relationships because he's still in the club and 0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.720 he's he's still out here. He's into his forties, but 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:09.760 he's still like finessing those relationships on a nightly basis, 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.200 which is something that I have completely neglected and I 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:14.760 should really probably do more of it. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.480 I've just come to the point in my life where 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.960 any relationships I already have, I try to water them, 0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:26.240 you know, like plants. And I'm not interested in going 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:29.560 out anymore. So if I don't, unless it's somebody who 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.160 I really fuck with, you know, or like someone who 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.080 like I'm a fan of, you know, Like I don't 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.840 care if it's an album release party, I don't care. 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:37.800 I'm tired twenty sixteen, Like. 0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.520 There was an album release party last night that I 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:40.720 would have went to if I had known, but I 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.320 got hit up last minute, like be A be as 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.320 a homegirl, Like she's cool, right, I fuck with Bea, 0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.760 But I was already at the crib. My wife just cooked. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.280 I'm like already planned a bike ride exactly. 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.480 Yeah, And I'm like, damn, and especially with the kid 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:54.760 think because it was like my kids waking me up. 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.840 I got six in the morning. Yeah, my kids waking 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.360 me up at six in the morning. And it doesn't 0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.160 matter if I go to bed at four in the morning, or. 0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.200 It doesn't matter you're getting up at six, you get nut. 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.040 And it's like, and especially like I have a wife. 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.400 She she will take on all of that responsibility of 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.400 taking care of the kids and everything. But I don't 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.880 feel like that's fair for me to just put everything 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:14.960 on her and be like, no, I'm sleeping a couple 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.040 hours later, just so that I can, like, you know, 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.560 recover from the fact that I had a fun night 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.960 last night. Because like twenty sixteen, if it was a 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.360 Friday night, this was the era of like underground warehouse 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.080 shows in LA and stuff, and there would be like 0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.000 some random fucking soldier boys show in a warehouse and 0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.600 like the ham on Everything era, and I would go 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.400 and I would see people I knew, and I would 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.800 stand around and smoke weed and drink and probably snort 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.360 cooke and do whatever and just meet people and just 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.760 like do this little like friend collecting thing that you're 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:45.280 doing at a certain point in your life of just 0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:45.960 meeting nice to. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:46.560 See you everywhere. 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.920 Yeah, and I respect that, and there's a certain point 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.560 in your career where you have to do that. But 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.719 also like as soon as I had a kid, it 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:55.400 was just like, what the fuck am I doing? 0:31:55.720 --> 0:32:02.120 What were your thoughts on on the whole entire Drake 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.719 Elliott Wilson thing and people saying that Elliott is above 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.000 doing running gun interviews at Rolling Loud. 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.360 You know, I wrestled with that too, because for a 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.520 long time I would go to Rolling Loud and I 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.280 would be doing the thing of standing around and waiting 0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.120 to get interviews and just trying to you know, finesse 0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.600 get content. Yeah, and like you know, if you if 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.800 you get a five minute conversation with Gunna, you just 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.600 made your whole trip, you know, Like I went. 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.440 To you did a Young Thug one at one of those. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.360 Yeah, and that was the best one that I ever did. 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.200 And then that's that kind of killed it for me 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.280 after that, because that was twenty nineteen and I go 0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.640 to Wireless Festival in London and I get like a 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000 twenty minute Young Thug interview, I get like a really 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.880 dope Juice World vlog, I get Denzel Curry. This is 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.000 all like in the same day that we just made 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:43.840 like a bunch of fire pieces of content. 0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:45.320 Crazy crazy Day. 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.560 Crazy Day. And it was all because it's in England. 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.840 So they're not like super they're. 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:52.440 Not getting pulled in every direction by their homies. 0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.400 There's not a lot of media and it's not super 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.160 formal in the sense that like even Young Thug has 0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.640 a little less like you know, like the big as 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.640 big as, like this table and like the area surrounding it. Right, 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.480 he's just chilling like he doesn't have a lot him. 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.440 Him there as opposed to him doing rolling out in 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.760 la is a lot different in terms of the backstage environment. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.400 Who's around him. He's got friends, he's got this you know. 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.080 I remember I went to some random festival in Santa 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.320 Ana like right after that London one. 0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:18.440 Was it the day and night one? 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:22.040 Yeah, And it was just infinitely less likely that I 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.080 was going to get any good content at that, you know. 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.160 And like for somebody like Elliott, it's like you probably 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.680 remember two thousand and two, he was like the god 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:31.880 of hip hop media because he was the editor of 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.680 Double Xcel and he basically destroyed the source and he 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.880 was clicked up with June and Eminem and all this shit. 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.200 I still to this day. Look at Elliott I was 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.960 like just a massive inspiration in terms of showing me 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.760 how it could be done. But I googled it the 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.520 other day. I think he's like fifty two or some shit. 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.520 So it is a question of, like, does there come 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.320 a time where you're a little bit too old or 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.720 a little bit too established to be doing the running 0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:57.240 gun interviews backstage at Rolling Loud. I mean, I hope 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.880 when I'm fifty two that I wouldn't even consider it, 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.720 to be totally honest, I'm thirty nine now, I could 0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.800 still see myself doing it, but I also don't at all, 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.839 So I don't know. I mean, like in a perfect world, yeah, 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.880 Elliot Wilson would be like jay Z, like where he's 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.480 just able to like be this content god and not 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.920 have to be in the trenches with the people. 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.239 But at the same time, like you want to be 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.240 in the trenches. 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.560 With the people, right, Like there is an extent to 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.399 which that's what's going to keep you young and keep 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.320 you in people's minds. But I don't really see myself 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:27.360 doing that at fifty two. But also I don't I 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.399 don't judge Elliott for it. I feel like he's still 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:30.600 just kind of Yeah, that's my thing. 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.600 I think I think it's like it's like an unfair 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.239 judgment because I'm sure he got paid because he was 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.759 doing official Rolling Loud. Shit, oh it was four rolling out, 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.160 it was for Rolling Loud, So he definitely got a 0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.879 bag for it. Yeah, And at the end of the day, 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:47.160 like everybody's trying to reinvent themselves, like Elliott is, he's 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.040 kind of got to. I've noticed he started interviewing like 0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.160 a guy like Key Clock, which I'm not sure, like, 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.560 you know, four years ago he would be interviewing Key Clock. 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:55.280 You know what I'm saying. 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.480 I mean, I haven't watched a lot of Elliott's interviews 0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:58.120 over there. 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.120 They're really good, Like but podcast it's amazing. 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:03.239 Really Okay, So I watched Drake one a few years ago. 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:04.880 I'm not sure I've seen any sense then, but like 0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:09.080 the Drake One was incredible, flawless, Like you actually asked 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.080 him every single thing that I could imagine you asking him. 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:12.960 They're very thorough. 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:13.640 Yeah, that was. 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.160 Amazing to me, but I haven't really been super tuned in. 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:19.480 Yeah, for you are do you even like care to 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.359 discover new music anymore? Like are you still like ear 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:23.960 to the street type guy or if it comes across 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.000 your periphials and you like it, you'll check it. 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.239 It's weird because it's like the stuff that I like, 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.880 which is like the street music, the drill music. 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:32.640 Crazy shit, that stuff. 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.319 Yeah, I'm constantly finding out about new shit because I 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.920 had a lot of people in my life that'll be 0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.719 like check out oh five to one, kiddo, check out 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.799 Tay Savage, check out all this Chicago shit, or like 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.400 listen to this new Bronx drill rapper or whatever. So 0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.759 that stuff it's super easy for me to stay on 0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.680 top of. You know you're talking about Bea. I know 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.680 she's popular. I don't think i've ever heard her. I'm 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:55.680 never gonna like go listen to an R and B 0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:58.600 artist or like a girl rapper or whatever. Realistically, Like 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.440 it's just you don't like R and B. No, no, no, 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:05.080 but you just got excited. Genuine followed you. Well, it's Genuine. 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.759 So you listened to Genuine growing up? Are you more 0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.960 like a Genuine's the guy fill off stage? Well? 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.840 Genuine like that that comes from the era of me 0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.200 going home from from school and watching TRL and like 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:22.160 Genuine was on whatever they're playing, you're watching it, Like 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.680 there's a lot of Backstreet Boys songs that I know 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.839 every word to. Unfortunately that like I'm just never gonna 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.120 I'm never gonna see a bunch of you. 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.640 Know, who's's it? 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.400 The K pop group BTS. I don't know. 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.480 I don't know, yes single BTS. I love R and B. 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:37.880 I'm R and B head, so I love R and B, 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.239 but BTS I couldn't tell you. 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.960 I keep thinking about because like the last couple of days, 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.480 I've just been listening to like all of Dirk's albums 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.200 and every single album. It's like I could kind of 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.279 cut it in half and take all the soft ship. 0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.000 I was gonna say, do you are you a big 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:54.520 Dirk fan? 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:55.640 I am a big Dirk fan. 0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:59.640 Okay, yeah, yeah, but if he's rapping about eyelashes and 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.040 fucking you know, you wouldn't hear that, see whatever I 0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.239 do want to kill your ops, Like That's what I'm 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.359 trying to hear, and I'm not proud of that. It's 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:11.400 just like like the aggressive songs are always the songs 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:12.440 that I like, Yeah. 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:16.120 Yeah, you had a pretty dope Dirk interview. What was 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:17.520 that like twenty eighteen. 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.520 Eighteen, Yeah, which I didn't like. 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.520 I knew it was a good interview to get, but 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.200 it definitely didn't feel like he was going to be 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:24.239 well I think big as he is now. 0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.000 Well, yeah, I think Dirk had Like I think Dirk's 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.280 got one of those careers that's like very unique because 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.200 he was on def Jam forever he was and like 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.640 he's evolved into something that I'm not sure I would 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.600 have get. Like you said in twenty eighteen, if somebody 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:38.760 would have told you he's like one of the biggest 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:39.960 rappers in the world, you'd been like. 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:41.680 Yeah, I didn't know. 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:43.200 I didn't see it happening. 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.400 But that happens all the time that there's like artists 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.760 that I'll interview and I think they're just super whatever, 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.239 or I think they're they're good, but like, oh, he's 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:51.759 got like a little seed of potential. But if I 0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:54.319 was a betting man and you were like, I would 0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:55.920 want one hundred and one odds if I was going 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.759 to bet one hundred bucks on him, you know which 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.600 is But sometimes dudes just really go for it and 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.879 really work their ass off or their their sound. 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:05.560 That just takes people a while to catch up to 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:06.000 their sound. 0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.839 You know, do you you know, because I remember very 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.600 vividly you were waving the little Pump flag harder than 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.640 any rapper. I think I've ever seen you wave a 0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.279 flag four At a certain point in time, I think 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:17.879 I remember when you first went on the Breakfast Club. 0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.120 You would on the Breakfast Club, you didn't ever No, well, 0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.279 there was an interview. Was it just you and Charlie Maine? 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.239 I interviewed him at one point. Yeah, And I went 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:30.399 on the Brilliant Idiots one time. 0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.839 It was Brilliant Idiots. It was Brilliant Idiots. Okay, Yeah, 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:34.360 So when you went on Brilliant Idiots, I think I 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.360 remember you kind of shitting on Rick Ross a little. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:38.840 I think they asked me what I thought of the 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.120 new Rick Ross album. 0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.480 And you were like, I don't fucking care. I'm listening 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.520 to a Little Pump or some shit. 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.880 Yeah, I mean that's just real. Like there's just artists 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:47.080 who I like, and then at a certain point, once 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.759 they're on like album number eight, I'm just not well. 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.359 I was gonna say there was like you were kind 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:54.800 of like partially the face of like that SoundCloud era, 0:38:55.000 --> 0:39:00.040 and you were also very anti a lot of the 0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:00.480 other shit. 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.719 I think I got a lot of the the a 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.080 lot of that reputation for being like anti traditional hip 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.120 hop just because of the fact that I was like 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:11.719 the adult in the room when Little Pump and Smoke 0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.600 Purple chanting fuck J Cole, even though I don't think 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.959 I ever I don't think I ever said fuck J Cole. 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.359 You know, like I was not invested in it like that, 0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.399 And I've always been able to appreciate, you know, more 0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.440 traditional hip hop and everything. But yeah, I mean that 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.279 was just I was around the SoundCloud wave like before them. 0:39:28.320 --> 0:39:31.040 I was around all these like Sesesh Hollow Water Boys 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.879 dudes and like all the GBC shit, and then I, 0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.160 you know, I met I met Little Pump at a 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.799 show in Florida that like Ski Mask played and like 0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.160 a few other people, and yeah, we just hit it up, 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:45.920 hit it off on some cool shit. We went on 0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:47.920 that tour together, and then I, you know, I went 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.960 to a few of his shows after that and stuff. 0:39:50.040 --> 0:39:52.480 But yeah, I mean sometimes when I think back on that, 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.640 I'm like, you're a grown ass man just really hanging 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.040 out with like a sixteen year. 0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:01.360 Old you in like fast forward, you have gotten a 0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.279 lot of recent criticism for maybe that tour and like 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:05.640 maybe some of the stuff that went down on the 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.359 tour with Pump. Do you regret any of that tour 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.359 or do you think any of that criticism is fair. 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.680 I mean, we were just hanging out doing zams and like, 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.360 I mean, yeah, there's a lot of stuff. 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.600 That'sen in retrospect. A grown man doing Zan's with a 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:17.800 child is kind of crazy. 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:19.920 Yeah, but that was just like my little helmie at 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.600 the time. I didn't I never thought of it like that, 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.800 because that's for sure. I've been a BMX dude my 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.879 whole life and I've been getting you know, smoking weed 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.960 and drinking and hanging out of the skate park and 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.080 all this shit, and I never had any like level 0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.680 of scrutiny of what I was doing. So it never 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.319 really occurred to me. And it's not like I was 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.399 like getting drugs for them. It's like, no, like they 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.359 had drugs, and like sometimes Pump or Smoke Purp would 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.000 like hand me a Xanax and or pour me some 0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.480 lean and I'm like, okay, sure, yeah. 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:49.759 You know what would be your thoughts on why you 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:53.200 think those two guys did not live up to their 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.040 potential and I guess quote unquote fell off because I 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.600 mean it looked like Smoke Purp was with Travis and 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.080 Pump was the biggest guy the fucking planet, you. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.120 Know, I mean a cart of me. You know, I 0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.799 got no ill will towards either of them. I still 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.680 think that they both potentially, you know, have it in him, 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:11.560 but I feel like everyone's one hit away, That's what 0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:14.760 I'm saying. And at a certain point, the little Pump 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.960 thing was just so big that it's like they the 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.440 people couldn't help but turn against him at a certain 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:24.400 point once like they loved the meme, they loved the 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:28.560 idea of him, they loved the hilarity of Pump, and 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:31.000 then at a certain point they just turned away from 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:35.160 him because maybe the music didn't evolve or keep changing 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:39.439 or whatever. And I don't know. I mean, you see 0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.719 it happen with people all the time, Like happened to 0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:43.600 the baby. They're doing it to a little baby right now. 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:45.400 But guess what, the baby caught a record and is 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:46.280 kind of back a little. 0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:50.200 I don't doubt for a minute that the bigger record. Yeah, 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.160 because he's a smart, older guy who really like has 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.120 studied the music game for a long time. And that's 0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.200 why I don't count a Little Pump or purp out 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.600 because I feel like all they need to do is 0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.400 just like come up with a sound, make a project 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.319 that encompasses that sound, and all of a sudden, those 0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:06.880 same people that are hating on them will be like 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.680 those same people that are always trying to catch a 0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:12.000 wave or like figure out something new or different to 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.480 be into, will be like, actually, this Little Pump album's 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.040 really good, and then that'll be the meme. 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.200 And I mean, they just did it with Little YACHTI 0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.320 when he put out the fucking Tame and Paula type 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.440 album exactly. 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:23.279 Or but like, bro, you see the way that they're 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.440 trying to take a little baby down right now because 0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:27.279 he put out a record. They hate the record, They 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.040 hated his last album and whatever. 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.759 And so, and then the tour days are getting canceled. 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.319 And now they're looking for any little thing that they 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.959 can use to put together the narrative that little baby 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.400 is a loser, even though a little baby like probably 0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.120 literally has like you know, fifty million dollars or one 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.480 hundred million dollars or some shit, like he's living a 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.680 great life if anything, Like I saw Act posted a 0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:49.560 clip of like Baby making that song in the studio, 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.880 and there's all these homies in the in the studio 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.560 and they're all nod in their head and like acting 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.800 like they're really into it. And then that song comes 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:59.239 out and Twitter just immediately declares that the worst song ever. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.600 But that's what it's like to be a superstar, is 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.000 that nobody wants to tell you that your shit sucks, 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.640 and you just are running around the world picking up 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.600 you know, fifty thousand dollars for a show, one hundred 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:11.400 thousand dollars for a show, and then all of a 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.600 sudden you put out a song and you just get 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:15.719 this reality check that like, oh, there's a lot of 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.719 people that are not already decided on the fact that 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:20.440 they love you, and they're gonna shit on you and 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.239 they're gonna hate you, and you know, but somebody like 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:24.919 a little baby, like I would say the same thing as. 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.479 Pump and Purp, like he just baby, you'll be fine. 0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:28.560 He just got to refocus. 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.520 Yeah, yeah, little Baby's gonna be a right guys op. 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.880 The interviews say about our goodolks at odd Socks. 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Right now, let's get back into 0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.200 the interview. I was gonna say, you had a couple 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:13.719 of you have in your store back in the day 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.080 resulted in some cool shit. One obviously, I think the 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.600 last hurrah was kind of a gun in my face. Well, 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.319 I was going to say, when when X passed away 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:22.759 and you guys pretty much shut. 0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:24.440 That was crazy. 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.920 But then the thing that actually made us like basically 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:28.799 leave the block was when I got the gun in 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:29.160 my face. 0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:30.439 That seemed like that kind of like. 0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.360 Killed the vibe, and you know, all of a sudden, 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:35.000 I didn't want to be there the same way I 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:38.920 needed security around me whenever I was there. Everybody's got guns. 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.200 Everybody's just like on a very different level because we 0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.239 were hanging out all the fucking time with no guns 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:46.840 around for years there, and then all of a sudden 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.719 one kid pulls up back and crazy, and that just 0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.680 kind of really changed the flavor of the block. 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:53.960 I was going to say, though, like you had a 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.560 dope interaction with j Cole where he just fell through 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:57.840 randomly and shout. 0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.360 Out Sasha, who he just names. He's the one that 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:00.560 basically line that up. 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.959 Shout out to Sasha, good guy. And then I think 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.080 about MGK came and came and bought a bike at 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:07.480 your store? 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:08.200 Did he? 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.799 Yeah, that's something to him and I talked about because 0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.279 he was like, you know, I bought a bike from 0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.800 that store, really, And he said that's why he doesn't 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.080 understand why, because I guess you were shitting on him. 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:19.960 You guys have this like you guys had like a 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.640 little fat. 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:25.920 I never knew why he had an issue with me, 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:27.680 aside for like the only things I could think. 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:31.000 He probably said something that he's a sensitive guy. Yeah, man, 0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.560 I'm sure you said something about him. 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.279 Yeah, I mean I don't like his rap, like all 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.400 his rap records back in the day. I remember like 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:38.719 he put a record out and I listened to it 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:41.160 and I said it was garbage. And I never knew 0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:42.319 he bought a bike from me though. 0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.479 So it's funny because yeah, because him and I, because 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.279 you know, I'm really cool with with Kels, and we 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:48.840 were talking and I was like, you know, Adam, like 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:50.160 I can connect you Adam. He's a good ud be 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:51.080 cause you know, I don't know if you remember I 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:51.800 put you on the phone. 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.560 Russ, Oh yeah you did, and I we had like 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.719 a conversation that I always think about that because I 0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:58.160 had a. 0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.960 Conversation thinking that we were on air. 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:01.520 We weren't. 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.640 I know, I was having the conversation like I was 0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:08.319 trying to fil Yeah, but then I realized after, like, oh, 0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.040 that wasn't on air, Like not only people who know 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.279 about that conversation are me, Russ, and keV, Whereas I 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:15.120 was speaking as if I had the whole world. 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:15.480 Listening to me. 0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:17.800 But damn, that's crazy that you had that conversation with 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:19.719 MGK because I never gotten that. 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:21.560 He told me. He was like, it's crazy because I 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.160 actually went out of my way to make sure when 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:25.800 I bought a bike, I bought it from his store, 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:27.480 just to kind of keep the money within like the 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:28.319 culture type shit. 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.239 I don't think anybody ever told me, like at the 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:32.400 store that that happened. 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:33.239 It's possible that. 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:34.680 I know he said he bought a bike. He's like, 0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.800 I bought a bike from from his spot. I literally 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.279 went out of my way to go buy the bike there. 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:38.960 I'm sure told me. 0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:40.480 Yeah, because I look at all that, like, oh, why 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:42.480 do I have problems with MGK? Like why why was 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.440 he so mad at me? It's really just for me, 0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:47.240 like saying I didn't like his music at a certain point, 0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.680 or like making fun of him, And I mean, I 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.400 really am not like a big fan of his music. 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.600 But also like I'm sure me and him would get 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:57.319 along all right, And like I remember somebody told me 0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.400 that he lives near me, and so I've had the 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.000 thought multiple times when I'm doing Cardio, just walk around 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.399 the neighborhood, just take it. Like imagine I just saw 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.400 MGK and we just had to fight in the front yard. 0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.880 Like that would be crazy. 0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:12.200 Because like if he came up to me on some 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:13.920 crazy shit, I guess I'm just gonna fight him, even 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:17.040 though that's not normally an option for I'm not normally 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:17.600 going to Like. 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.359 I think both both of you guys are too rich 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:20.160 for that to happen. 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:21.880 I would think so as well. But I mean, you 0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.759 see him punch some guy at the fair the other day. 0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:24.839 I got nothing against him. 0:49:24.920 --> 0:49:26.719 Yeah, but I mean that was I think that was more. 0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.680 I mean his lady was nearby. I you know, yeah, 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.359 you gotta kind of hold your chick down. 0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.080 Yeah, but somebody said some crazy shit to her, and 0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:37.239 then he had a security right there. For me, if 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.359 somebody said something crazy about to my girl, I'm would 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:40.719 be like security. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.640 Get them, like I'm paying you for a reason. 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:44.120 But he's had security for so long. 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.160 But he's a hot head, you know, like like I've 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:49.560 seen Kelsey. You know, he's a good dude. But yeah, 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.280 you guys, I'm sure one day you'll have a conversation 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.440 or you'll be jogging and he'll honk at you from 0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:54.799 a pink g wagon. 0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:56.560 I'm down or something like that. I would have a 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:57.400 conversation with him. 0:49:57.880 --> 0:50:00.359 I would just say the fuck Russ Era obviously all 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.440 that kind of that was that the only time you 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:06.840 actually had an artist physically do harm to you or 0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:08.280 is there anything we never heard about? 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:10.799 Well, the Russ didn't do anything. 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:11.399 It was his guy. 0:50:11.560 --> 0:50:13.560 Yeah. I was just like at the nail salon around 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:16.520 the corner from my store at the time, and I 0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.240 remember it was some kind of like goth boy click 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:20.520 event or some shit like that. 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:23.400 Jesus that sounds like an that sounds like a terrible. 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:26.200 So basically, you have like a shitload of zanned out 0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.759 goth kids hanging out at the store, right, And so 0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:30.520 I dip off. At one point, I go around the 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:33.680 corner to the to the nail salon and I'm getting 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:35.239 my nails done, and I thought, oh, I'm gonna put 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.000 my hood up and I'm gonna face away from the 0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:38.640 door so that nobody can tell it to me. 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:40.959 Not a great idea. Didn't see these guys coming. 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:42.600 And then I just hear at one point, I'm twenty 0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:45.239 two get punched on the side of the head, and 0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:47.239 I like fall down for a second, like I think 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.080 you hit me, wait one more time, and then I 0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:49.560 jump up. 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.080 And by the time I jump up there out. 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:53.520 There and you didn't even realize it was connected to 0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:54.520 Russ until later, Right. 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.440 I didn't realize it was connected till Russ until like 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.360 a year later when Academics was on live stream with 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.359 him and Russ said something like yeah that full audam 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.160 twenty two got touched too, but like it was breaking 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.719 up on the recording of the stream, but Act knew 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.719 what he said, so Act told me, he goes, this 0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:14.319 is what Russ said, and immediately it clicks in my head, like, 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.319 oh my god, the Nigerians, because Russ is always talking 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.560 about his Nigerian homies and shit, and I'm like, oh 0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.560 my god, those guys weren't Nigerian. Like I got beat 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.640 up by a couple of Nigerians that Russ sent through. 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.200 And so then all of a sudden it made sense, 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:27.759 and I remember I sat on it and thought about 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:29.520 it for a couple of days, and then one day 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:30.719 I was like, you know what, I might as well 0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.239 just use the shit for some clouds. So I just 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.040 go on Twitter and start being like, hey fuck Russ, YadA, 0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:35.840 YadA YadA. 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.160 And hey, I feel like, I feel like his campaign 0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.160 of beating up rappers that talk shit worked hurts because 0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:45.720 nobody says it no more, and I feel like people 0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.759 now are like, yo, maybe Russ was onto something when 0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:50.120 it came to being independent and like owning your masters 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:51.440 and not getting fucked by labels. 0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:53.400 Right. I mean, what I will say is that Russ 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.239 definitely like didn't do himself any favors around that time. 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:58.000 He was just saying a bunch of wild ass shit 0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.239 and just kind of disrespecting a lot of people. 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.200 Hey, I mean, he had that T shirt that stands out. 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:05.720 When he dissed all of the Atlanta Producers or whatever, 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.080 and I remember Southside was going crazy on him, like 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.759 he made a lot of weird decisions around that time. 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.600 Now that Bean said I And the reason why I 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:15.520 kind of let it go and just decided like, all right, 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.560 I'm gonna just be cool with Russ when you initiated 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:20.719 the conversation is because Russ brought it up to me 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.080 that there was a lot of tweets that I didn't remember, 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.839 probably because I was zanned the fuck out, just like 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:29.160 his T shirt said, where I was basically like really 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.799 roasting this motherfucker. And I don't do that now, Like 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.120 I'm not going to just use like a rapper as 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:36.359 a punchline, like in the way that I was doing 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.200 there where I was really like treating him like he 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:40.879 wasn't a human being, you know, which to me, I don't. 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:42.440 I don't approve of that or condone that. 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:45.000 I feel like you should approach everybody as a person 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:48.239 and you know, try to engage with the actual ideas 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.520 that they're putting out there. Now, if I had had 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:52.680 some angry tweets where I said, Russ doesn't know what 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:54.960 the fuck he's talking about with these Atlanta producers are 0:52:55.000 --> 0:52:58.000 actually Xanax is the best? How dare you insult Xanax? 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.520 Then that's fair, like that's having an opinion. But me 0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:04.000 just like clowning them and just treating them like a joke. 0:53:04.760 --> 0:53:07.440 I don't really condone that, so I have to even 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.040 though obviously I don't condone you know, him sending people 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.759 to beat my ass either, But I do respect that. 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.080 You gotta respect the shooter. 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:15.840 At the end of the day or the puncher. You 0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:18.880 can't dictate us. People react to disrespect. 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:20.840 Yeah, And I shouldn't have been lacking anyway. 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:21.640 You shouldn't have been. 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:24.080 Like it, because man, you imagine another version of that 0:53:24.200 --> 0:53:26.799 story where I pull out the thing and just and. 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:28.920 Then you smoke two random dudes and you're like, and 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.280 you find out a year later, and it's. 0:53:31.120 --> 0:53:32.480 Not gonna take a year. The cops are going to 0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:34.640 go through their phone and be like, oh shit, Russ 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.600 sent these guys to do this, and then I mean 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.560 that's the alternate, Like, realistically, that's how that story would 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:41.600 probably play out today. 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.000 So I'm kind of thankful that I learned that lesson 0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:45.719 early on. 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:52.120 How look, I think you and I were texting early 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:58.400 on when the whole departure split of No Jumper happened, 0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.640 because I'm real, real tight with A and I've become 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.799 cool with te Roll over the last year or so. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.120 But I remember just hitting you and being like, this 0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:11.160 was because I came on the show the day after 0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:17.400 you fired Lush okay, and I didn't really understand what 0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:19.560 I was walking into. I guess to the fully. 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.640 Because I heard you say that on another show. Yeah, 0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:22.799 you really didn't get what I. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:28.600 Didn't understand, like the whole gravity of what was happening, right, So, like, yeah, 0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:34.560 it was shit, But you that day was crazy because 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.600 I remember coming out of the room because you had 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:42.680 multiple content rooms and seeing the dude who went on 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:46.040 the stream that same day and like tried to air 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:48.239 you out for the old twenty eighteen shit, Like I 0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.759 saw him coming in really wow, Yeah that was the 0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.960 same day, so he was there, Like I remember seeing 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:56.879 him come in, and then I think he walked over 0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.160 to the stream room and then me and you took 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.520 a pick and then I left. I remember like it 0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.000 was later on that day or maybe it was it 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.080 was I think, and I remember just being like, oh shit, 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.759 but you were going through man, Bro. 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:10.760 Yeah it was wild. 0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:13.160 I mean it's kind and I remember hitting you like hey, Bro, 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:14.400 like stay strong. 0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:15.960 But it is weird too because I feel like that 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:17.600 would happen to me now and I wouldn't give a fuck. 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.160 But I mean, and get this, that wasn't very long ago, right, 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.000 So like at the end of the day, like I've 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:29.040 never really seen I mean, everybody is like, yo, it's 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.480 over for this guy. We're we're not going on a show. 0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.760 He's a clown. Fucking he's a you know, fucking pedal 0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:38.000 whatever the fuck. Like it was like all this shit 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:41.799 just getting thrown at the fucking house at the same time. Yeah, 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:47.400 how was your mental being and like what was the 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.520 low for you just in terms of dealing with that. 0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:52.640 I mean, at that time, it was rough because it 0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:57.040 was like I just felt like, oh, I put years 0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.920 of hard work into like nurturing these guys as talent 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:01.839 and then they just kind of like turn their back 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:04.080 on me as soon as it's convenient for them. So 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.759 that was kind of tough to accept. But then at 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.680 the same time, you know, just having the Internet in 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.080 general just attacking me, and even that was like one thing, 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.440 but dude, like it seems so silly. But around that 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.239 same time, there was a clip of me doing an 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:21.120 interview with Sneako where we were like having this very 0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:26.280 sarcastic conversation about how disgusting vaginas are. Like really, anybody 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:27.839 who knows me or him would be able to tell 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:29.880 that it was a troll and ask conversation, and that 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:31.960 when I was saying that, like, penises are so much 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:33.920 better than vaginas. You just splash a little bit of 0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:36.160 puddle water on it and it's clean, whereas a vagina 0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:38.400 is an open boom. This is like a version of 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.040 like a joke that I've basically like been telling like 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:44.960 the whole life about how dicks are better than vaginas whatever. 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:48.920 But like, oh my god, like thousands of porn chicks 0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.799 just using that clip as an opportunity to act as 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.920 if I genuinely hate vaginas, and you know, it's just 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:56.800 like a lot of that shit all at the same time. 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.319 Just it kind of just. 0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.080 Unloaded on me, and it was really really hard for 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.040 me at that time, and then I went on the 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.759 honeymoon and I kind of like got my mind right 0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:08.719 while I was off doing that. 0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:10.640 Because all this is happening right before your wedding. 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:14.279 Yeah, terrible timing, very very very stressful for my girl. 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.560 Although then we go and do the wedding and it's. 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:19.360 Like the perfect wedding. 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.760 It was like so good, everything went so smoothly, and 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.560 then it made me and her feel like, well, why 0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:26.400 the fuck were we so stressed out about the wedding 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.520 and the lead up to all this, like on account 0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:29.240 of all that other shit? 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:29.520 You know? 0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:33.000 Did you, like, I mean, are you like a therapy guy? 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:35.480 I do. I had a therapist for like three years now, 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.720 and I very much appreciate her, and she gives me 0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:42.240 a very nice space in which I can kind of 0:57:42.280 --> 0:57:47.120 air out everything that I'm going through emotionally. Sometimes it 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.200 feels like my therapist. And I was like the one 0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:52.560 podcast I do a week that nobody ever gets to hear, 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:54.840 you just like working through shit, you know. 0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:58.960 But yeah, she definitely helped helped talk me through all 0:57:59.000 --> 0:57:59.440 that stuff. 0:57:59.480 --> 0:58:02.840 And at any point in time, you've already made your money, 0:58:02.840 --> 0:58:06.240 you're paid, you're doing well. Plug talks booming. At any 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:10.040 point in time, did you consider just being like, you 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.600 know what, I don't need to do this. This is 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:15.760 worse for me than it's better for me. 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.880 Yeah, because like there was a time where. 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.560 It felt like they're just watching you. It just felt 0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.160 like there was a time where you just were like 0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:25.440 just over the shit, right because like. 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.680 That whole house Phone thing happened, and then that that 0:58:27.800 --> 0:58:29.640 was the thing that bothered me is I felt like, oh, 0:58:29.680 --> 0:58:32.760 this is a moment where it's pretty obvious that I 0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.160 need the guys who are hosts on the channel to 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.720 have my back during this and like need them to 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:41.760 help craft the narrative that things are just fine here. 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:43.600 And instead I felt like I kind of got the opposite, 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:45.600 where like a lot of the hosts on the channel 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.440 were kind of like very much actively trying to make 0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.080 the situation between me and house Phone worse. And he 0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:53.840 gets that now because like me and Housemen have had 0:58:53.880 --> 0:58:56.080 a lot of conversations about it and everything, and like 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:59.200 you know, he we've been talking all day. He's djaying 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:04.000 a show that I'm doing on Saturday, and I don't. Yeah, 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:05.600 it just kind of made me realize like there was 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:10.240 just like a really toxic element brewing within No Jumper 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:13.240 at that time. And you know, I don't think that 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:16.840 any of the hosts in particular are like really bad people. 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.440 I think that they just kind of had voices in 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:24.600 their ears that were probably concerned with their own financial 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.240 situation more than like the actual long term careers of 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:30.760 these guys, you know. So I think that there was 0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.320 just too much bullshit going on. And it's crazy because 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.120 as soon as those guys left and then we have 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:36.960 we still have a shitload a host on the channel, 0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:39.240 and like a lot of them have been really growing 0:59:39.280 --> 0:59:41.560 and stuff, and I have hosts who literally like cannot 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:43.439 be in the same room. I cannot have Rick Baby 0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:45.320 or Whack one hundred or you know, I can't have 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:47.280 Whack one hundred and Kritmak in the room at the 0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:50.760 same time. But still, like the vibe is way better 0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.480 than it was before. Feels like, as much as that 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:57.560 shit kind of hurt going through those growing pains, exercising 0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:01.200 that drama element out of the business was like really 1:00:01.280 --> 1:00:04.200 important because at a certain point it was just a 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.280 lot of people were like coming into No Jumper basically 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:09.800 like sterring shit up and then going home to their 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.240 streams and making tons of content about it, and that 1:00:12.440 --> 1:00:14.720 just became like the norm every day. And that's why 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:16.720 I felt like I needed to take steps like moving 1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:19.360 around people on podcasts and stuff like that, because it 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:22.240 was just becoming really really overwhelming. 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:26.040 I saw AD said something because you had Snoopy Badass 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:27.520 on Yeah who you. 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.880 Want special treatment? Because Snoopy Badass had a video where 1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:34.080 he basically said that, like and this is a long 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.200 time ago, because I did an interview with Snoopy like 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:39.800 two years ago and AD wasn't there or anything, and 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.120 like Snoop and Snoopy had a video where it basically 1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:44.160 said that AD was blocking him from going on No 1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:47.760 Jumper and that Ad is just a hater because you know, 1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.240 Snoopy's the real king of Compton or whatever the fuck 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.320 he said. So when I had Snoopy on the other day, 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.760 I asked him, what was up with that video you 1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:57.800 saying that you would fuck a d up or whatever? 1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:00.960 And I guess you know, Ad, he like last night, 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.240 did this whole song and dance acting like the victim, 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:05.240 acting like, Oh, that's so fucked up that I would 1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:09.400 ask this dude about him. So, just for the record, 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:13.760 I am one of the greatest hip hop podcasters to 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:15.920 ever live. And if you think that I'm going to 1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:18.720 have a motherfucker on the show and not ask him 1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:22.680 about the beef that he previously had with someone who 1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:26.480 was a host on the Channel A, you're not paying 1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:28.240 attention to what I've been doing for all these years, 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:30.240 because that is one hundred percent what I do. If 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:32.040 I have an interview with a rapper that hates Bootleg 1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.720 keV tomorrow, I'm gonna probably make it clear in the 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.760 course of the interview, like fuck with Butleg keV. 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:40.400 But I'm gonna say, so why that's normal. 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:43.200 That's what everybody does, ad Like, I don't know why 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.960 he thinks he needs like special treatment, but I think 1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.000 the reality is is that he probably isn't even. 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.520 Actually bothered by what I said. 1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:55.160 In the interview with Snoopy Badass. He just does like 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:58.320 four streams a week, and he needs topics and he 1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.720 needs stuff to talk about, and so that probably seemed 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:04.120 like something that would be good clickbait, right, And that's 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.360 not like people just you see people become this weird 1:02:07.440 --> 1:02:10.880 version of themselves and they start faking fights, and they 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:14.600 start faking beefs, and they start, you know, creating beefs 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:18.240 out of nothing or whatever. And it's like, I don't know, 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:20.080 Like I saw like a two minute clip of his 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:23.120 stream in the reddit and I just didn't even I 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:24.840 didn't even think about responding. 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:26.040 It just seems so I. 1:02:26.040 --> 1:02:28.560 Was gonna say, I think he said that you guys 1:02:28.640 --> 1:02:29.520 were like cordial. 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:32.560 We've got some text conversations since then and everything, but like, okay, 1:02:32.600 --> 1:02:34.800 why do we have a text conversation when I was 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:38.200 in Florence about to get married. Is because his cousin 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:41.600 came on one of the No Jumper panels and then 1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:45.240 ad did a whole stream talking about you know, if 1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:47.800 I'm not fucking with Adam, then you if you're my cousin, 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:50.160 you shouldn't go on No Jumper or whatever, and I 1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:51.800 hit him up. I sent him, like, you know, a 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:53.680 couple of texts just being like, bro, I didn't know 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:55.600 you had a problem with this fucking guy, like like 1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:59.040 what do you like? But again, it's like he needed 1:02:59.080 --> 1:03:01.280 some clickbait. He needed something to talk about that week. 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:04.080 So you see how ad even being who he is, 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:07.040 he just is I don't know, it's like weird, Like 1:03:07.520 --> 1:03:09.200 you could have just texted me and said, like, why 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:10.919 do you interview my cousin instead you do a three 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:14.320 hour livestream about it. And you know that's why I 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.920 kind of feel bad for these guys, because it's like 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:19.360 they feel like they have to talk about me to 1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:22.000 get views and to get people to pay attention, because 1:03:22.040 --> 1:03:25.160 that's all of their most viral content has just been 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:26.000 talking about I think. 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:27.720 Lush said that. I think Lush is like, this is 1:03:27.720 --> 1:03:29.160 what y'all want, so I'm gonna keep doing it. 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:31.800 Lush did a whole video swearing that he wasn't gonna 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:34.160 talk about me anymore and thanking me for the positive 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:36.640 impact out in his career and everything, and then he 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:39.000 interviews somebody else that I don't fuck with, and he 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:41.520 said like, hey, I really tried to stop talking about 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:43.040 No Jumper, but this is what y'all want, but you 1:03:43.040 --> 1:03:45.720 guys don't watch my shit unless I talk about No Jumper. 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:48.240 So I'm talking about No Jumper now. The difference between 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:51.320 Lush talking about No Jumper and not talking about No 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:53.200 Jumper is he'll get like a thousand views on an 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:55.560 average stream and then he'll talk about a new Jumper 1:03:55.560 --> 1:03:56.120 and I'll get. 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:56.760 Like ten thousand. 1:03:57.560 --> 1:04:02.160 Okay, so yeah, that is a ten x multiplier, but 1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:05.720 still you're a grown ass man getting ten thousand views 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:06.640 on your live stream. 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:09.040 Have you guys chatted at it all? 1:04:09.480 --> 1:04:11.120 I mean, he tries to hit me up and stuff, 1:04:11.120 --> 1:04:12.720 and it's like, bro, I just don't fuck with. 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:14.720 Him, cause I, like, you know, I had him on 1:04:14.800 --> 1:04:17.600 and he went off. He went off on me on 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:20.320 some fucking podcasts, and then I ended up bringing him 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:22.680 on and we're cool because I think I called I 1:04:22.720 --> 1:04:24.520 called him some shit when you and I did, because 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:26.400 I never was like a fan of him on the channel, 1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:27.520 but when I met him, I was like, oh, he 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:30.280 seems like a really genuinely like like nice dude. 1:04:30.840 --> 1:04:33.600 And with him, it's like it just reminds me like, 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:37.520 do not operate your business like a fucking charity project, 1:04:37.560 --> 1:04:40.560 because he was somebody that was just so obviously fucked, 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:43.720 and like I put him on the channel because it 1:04:43.800 --> 1:04:45.760 was like I thought that that was kind of like 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:47.840 an interesting narrative, like look at this guy. He's an 1:04:47.840 --> 1:04:51.479 ex junkie, he's fucking addicted to banging prostitutes on fig 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:54.040 he's just got like clearly got a few screws loose. 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:57.320 He's chasing this battle rap dream. But then you know, 1:04:57.880 --> 1:05:00.440 like we brought him on the channel, and it's just 1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:04.200 like everybody on the channel was just viciously clowning him 1:05:04.240 --> 1:05:05.040 all the time, and. 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:06.840 I was the one telling people. 1:05:07.200 --> 1:05:10.240 I was the one sitting down with Almighty Suspect and saying, like, Suspect, 1:05:10.240 --> 1:05:11.400 you gotta go easy on Lush. 1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:14.040 You can't just like be this mean to him. Because 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:16.880 I remember there was like a freestyle thing where. 1:05:16.840 --> 1:05:21.000 Lush rapped and Suspect was laughing so hard, like falling 1:05:21.040 --> 1:05:23.840 out of his chair, and it was so funny. And 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:25.840 I'm over here, I'm the one. 1:05:25.840 --> 1:05:28.080 Looking out for Lush saying, Suspect, you can't treat him 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:29.800 like that. Like, Suspect, you gotta be nicer to him. 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:30.120 Whatever. 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:32.640 T Rel was fucking shitting on him left and right. 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:34.840 He fucking hated him, and I'm kind of trying to like, 1:05:35.160 --> 1:05:38.400 you know, navigate that. And you know, like, why was 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:40.320 I going out of my way to help this guy. 1:05:40.360 --> 1:05:42.920 I never did one bad thing to this guy. And 1:05:42.960 --> 1:05:45.320 then of course all of his dreams are about me 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:47.680 because I'm the only successful person that he's ever been 1:05:47.720 --> 1:05:50.000 around in his entire life. I'm the only famous person 1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:52.640 that he's ever been associated with, so he has to 1:05:52.680 --> 1:05:56.000 talk about me or else. Nothing's ever gonna move. My 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:58.760 challenge to all of those guys, and I've said this before, 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:03.600 is get a million views, have an opinion. 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:04.400 Have a thought. 1:06:04.920 --> 1:06:06.600 Are you talking about on a specific video. 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.480 Make a video that gets a million views, have a thought, 1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:14.960 have an opinion, do something. The stipulations are you can't 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:16.280 get a million views talking about me. 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:17.120 That's not going to do it. 1:06:17.120 --> 1:06:18.880 There's not a million people who care that much about 1:06:18.880 --> 1:06:21.880 any of these ex hosts talking about me, or you know, 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:25.400 get an interview, talk to somebody who's like really interesting, 1:06:25.440 --> 1:06:27.520 and get a million views. That's my challenge to every 1:06:27.520 --> 1:06:29.280 single one of them. Well, I think you will have 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:33.480 proven to me that you successfully left the nest when 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:35.960 you get a million views, because I could tell you 1:06:36.280 --> 1:06:39.320 that last month I got fifty million views on my 1:06:39.360 --> 1:06:41.680 YouTube channel. And this is like people talk about a 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:47.040 sinking ship. All of these channels combined are maybe ten 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:49.439 percent of the views that I get in a month, 1:06:50.600 --> 1:06:52.520 and I'm a sinking shit. This is what these people 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:54.640 actually want you to believe. It's bullshit narrative. They were 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:56.760 never mistreated while they were on the channel. I was 1:06:56.800 --> 1:07:00.160 always transparent about pay. I was always like very uh, 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:02.600 you know, open to having discussions about what the future 1:07:02.600 --> 1:07:04.080 of the Channel was going to be. So that that 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:06.280 is the one thing that really bothers me is just 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:09.480 this bullshit victim narrative that was painted on the way out. 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:12.560 But I don't think that people are falling for it anymore. 1:07:12.680 --> 1:07:15.320 I you know, the Channel's doing way way better. We're 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:18.880 crushing it right now and I have tons more great ideas. 1:07:18.920 --> 1:07:21.560 And at the end of the day, you need money 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.520 to go to war, and I got a lot of it, 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:26.040 and I can't. 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:27.560 I mean, I don't think they want to. I mean, 1:07:27.560 --> 1:07:29.720 I would hate to see like a war. I mean 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:30.960 obviously not to me. 1:07:31.040 --> 1:07:34.080 It's like there's a scoreboard, right and I'm way up, 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:36.400 even though people tried to paint me as if I 1:07:36.480 --> 1:07:37.080 was way down. 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:39.720 Yeah, I mean you, But I do think it's important 1:07:39.760 --> 1:07:44.439 to acknowledge like community and and and back on fig 1:07:44.560 --> 1:07:49.080 are are successful, they're not. Maybe they're jump or successful, 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:52.960 but thank you. I think you've you have a head start. 1:07:53.120 --> 1:07:56.600 You know you've been and I'm gonna go I mean, look, 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.120 of course you're you have some of the iconic interviews 1:07:59.120 --> 1:08:00.600 of all time. Listen, I think you got to look 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:02.280 at it as like through the scope of like these 1:08:02.320 --> 1:08:03.840 guys just started these channels, so. 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:05.560 It's like, you know, but they need to get a 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:06.280 million views. 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:09.160 You know. Have you watched Figmmunity World? 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:10.200 No? 1:08:10.200 --> 1:08:10.840 No, you never. 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:12.960 Well I've seen some clips here. Yeah. Yeah. 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:15.480 Yeah. I just think that like they're building something that 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:17.519 they're you know, and I just wish that there was 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:21.599 less like like I didn't like the way to hold 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:24.400 Split happen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was bullshit, 1:08:24.520 --> 1:08:28.400 But I think that uh, you know, both things can 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:33.400 be true. They're successful, maybe not as successful as you, 1:08:33.760 --> 1:08:36.160 but again you have a head start, but they're doing 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:39.759 I'm sure they're making much more money for their families 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:43.920 for themselves. Then would you acknowledge that that they're probably 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:46.439 making more money now than they were making with no Jumper? 1:08:46.760 --> 1:08:50.160 Hell no, you don't think so, no, no, no, no, no, okay. 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:52.160 So I'm not in the business. So I just know 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:53.960 that they have sponsors, they got you know, they got 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:55.840 their own sponsor money coming in. Like I don't know, 1:08:55.880 --> 1:08:58.640 I just I just feel like they're probably and they 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:00.559 might be okay, even if it's even if you're making 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:02.559 seventy five percent of what they were making with you. Oh, 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:04.120 hell no, you don't think so. 1:09:04.479 --> 1:09:04.599 No. 1:09:04.840 --> 1:09:06.840 I mean I listen a lot of people talk to me, 1:09:06.880 --> 1:09:09.720 A lot of people tell me things I basically know, 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:13.160 like almost exactly how much money they make, And I 1:09:13.200 --> 1:09:16.080 feel bad that they had bad management that led them 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:20.160 in the direction of walking away from you know, money 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:22.960 that could do. He was very, very meaningful for an 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:25.479 opportunity that realistically has not panned out yet. 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:27.439 Do you well, I mean yeah, I mean, do you 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:31.360 think there would ever be an opportunity for you guys 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:33.840 to do a reunion show or go on each other's 1:09:33.840 --> 1:09:36.320 platforms in the future? Is that out of the realm 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:37.759 of possibility. 1:09:38.800 --> 1:09:44.360 For me? I'm looking towards the future, so is it possible. 1:09:45.080 --> 1:09:48.880 I guess anything is possible. But I just got a 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:50.639 lot of good things going for me right now I'm 1:09:50.640 --> 1:09:53.240 really focused on and I don't really feel the need 1:09:53.280 --> 1:09:55.120 to sort of go back in time, you know. 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:59.440 And obviously you know, shout out to brick baby, brick babies. 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:02.400 Break baby better? Why be better? And break baby better? 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:04.200 Be be better? Yo? 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:06.760 What is it about like you and gang members where 1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:09.679 you just you just attract yourself to LA Gang members 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:10.000 like a. 1:10:09.960 --> 1:10:12.479 Fucking he love me? What can I say? I don't know. 1:10:12.520 --> 1:10:15.080 There's just LA Gang members around you at all times. 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:16.559 Listen, I don't know. 1:10:16.600 --> 1:10:18.240 You get in where you fit in. And I've always 1:10:18.280 --> 1:10:20.960 been a fan of this of this music, and at 1:10:21.000 --> 1:10:24.440 a certain point, you know, like I like having conversations 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:26.759 with Whack one hundred, I like having conversations with brit Baby. 1:10:27.560 --> 1:10:30.719 I do a podcast with Danny Mullin. He's a Communitian lords. 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:33.400 He doesn't even know who Blue Blue Faces. There's been 1:10:33.479 --> 1:10:35.360 multiple times that I've mentioned Blue Face. He doesn't know 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:38.360 who I'm talking about. I like doing that kind of content, 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:42.479 but ultimately, like, the only people who are gonna really 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:46.519 know a lot about the music that I'm into are 1:10:46.560 --> 1:10:49.559 pretty much gang members or people who are equally as 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:51.840 fascinated by that kind of stuff as me. 1:10:52.600 --> 1:10:54.880 So yeah, I don't know. This is kind of where 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:55.840 I've ended up. 1:10:56.320 --> 1:10:58.559 Yeah, because I'm thinking, let's see, your two main co 1:10:58.640 --> 1:11:02.000 hosts now are whack in brick Baby. 1:11:01.920 --> 1:11:05.519 Right, Enemies can't be around each other. That's I gotta 1:11:05.520 --> 1:11:07.559 make it. I gotta work through this in time. 1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:10.040 Yeah, And I mean even back in the day, it 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:12.000 was like you had t Row and you had k 1:11:13.040 --> 1:11:14.400 So it's like they couldn't be in the same place 1:11:14.439 --> 1:11:17.800 at the same time. Is that a conversation you've tried to, 1:11:18.760 --> 1:11:20.799 you know, mend a little or is it even. 1:11:20.680 --> 1:11:21.320 With krit Mac and. 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:23.800 With Whack and brick Baby. 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.920 I think like, actually, when I first started the Whack podcast, 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:28.760 there was a chance that they were going to be 1:11:28.760 --> 1:11:30.920 able to be cool, and then it got way worse 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:35.519 after that, So at this time, probably not. I do 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.160 think like based on statements that they both made, that 1:11:38.240 --> 1:11:40.599 if they were to see each other, that it would 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:44.120 not turn physical, at least based on what they've said, 1:11:44.320 --> 1:11:46.360 which that to me is a big step, big step. 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:48.960 But yeah, I would love to get them on the 1:11:48.960 --> 1:11:51.400 same page. I think they would be incredible together on camera, 1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:53.000 but we're not quite there yet. 1:11:53.160 --> 1:11:54.800 I remember in the past you had said that you 1:11:54.800 --> 1:11:55.960 would an interview six to nine. 1:11:56.760 --> 1:11:59.240 I think I would Now I was gonna say, yeah, 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.439 I don't know why, but I got a feeling it's coming. 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:03.800 You know. My dedication to the street code was so 1:12:03.840 --> 1:12:06.320 strong at a certain time that it just kind of 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:06.920 blinded me. 1:12:06.960 --> 1:12:08.439 And now I'm like, I could do it. 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:10.519 But at the same time, it's like, I don't know 1:12:10.640 --> 1:12:12.720 six and I want to sit down with me when like, 1:12:13.439 --> 1:12:15.519 I'm sure if he was watching my commentary on the 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:20.720 Kodak Black six nine collab, that he probably would be like, well, 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:24.160 fuck this guy, because like you know, I wasn't exactly 1:12:24.400 --> 1:12:25.360 positive about. 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:27.640 It, but I think with you and WAC's dynamic, like 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:30.400 WHAC would probably want to make that happen, right, I would. 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:30.759 Like to make it happen. 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:33.400 Me and WAC talked about it. He facetimed me the 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:35.280 other day with six ' nine and six nine just 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:38.479 started saying some random shit and I don't know. I mean, 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:40.720 I would be cool with it. It would be like interesting 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:44.280 because of the fact that I was around six ' nine, 1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:47.599 like in the very very infancy of his career before 1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:50.120 he had twenty thousand followers when I met him, and 1:12:50.160 --> 1:12:52.160 I've kind of seen him get to be the biggest 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:54.320 rapper in the game and now I guess he's the 1:12:54.360 --> 1:12:56.400 biggest Latin artist in the game or something. 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:57.800 He's definitely not that well. 1:12:57.920 --> 1:12:58.680 He's he's up there. 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:01.719 There's bad bunn eithers. Yeah, paesel Pluma, he's out there. 1:13:01.760 --> 1:13:03.439 But I don't I don't know, I mean, he's doing 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:04.840 this thing. I don't think he's a bad guy. I 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:08.040 just think he, you know, ended up in a weird situation. 1:13:08.200 --> 1:13:11.280 Do you feel like more now than ever, the selective 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:14.960 outrage about snitching is like at an all time high. 1:13:15.439 --> 1:13:17.360 I mean, yeah, shout out whack one hundred. 1:13:17.439 --> 1:13:20.439 But definitely, Black always says selective politics. 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:24.840 He's the most selective. Politics is selective one. Yeah, I 1:13:24.840 --> 1:13:25.479 mean definitely. 1:13:25.520 --> 1:13:27.600 I mean because I think I like the ship with 1:13:27.880 --> 1:13:30.960 the QC guy, you know, and it's like, I mean 1:13:32.439 --> 1:13:34.200 a lot of guys are signing him, a. 1:13:34.200 --> 1:13:36.800 Lot of people. Yeah, And I thought when I saw 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:39.040 that story come out, I'm like, god, damn, Like, are 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:41.080 there are there certain people that aren't gonna want to 1:13:41.120 --> 1:13:42.040 be around p anymore? 1:13:42.120 --> 1:13:42.599 Just went away? 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.800 Nobody cared. Yeah, he just kept it moving. Yeah, because 1:13:45.840 --> 1:13:50.160 he didn't tell on anybody's famous. If you snitch on 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:53.439 young thug, you're in trouble. If you snitch on or 1:13:53.520 --> 1:13:55.679 if people already kind of hate you, like six ' nine, 1:13:56.080 --> 1:13:58.280 he told on all these real gang members. 1:13:58.680 --> 1:13:59.920 People hated, people were. 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:01.360 Iron to find something. 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:03.840 No everybody wanted to tear him. 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Mike Tyson says something. 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:43.760 I thought I know it, but but that is how 1:17:43.800 --> 1:17:46.120 crazy my life is right now, is that Mike Tyson 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.120 could have said something about it and I would not know. 1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:50.040 I was gonna say, what's like the one thing where 1:17:50.040 --> 1:17:52.679 you saw like, oh wait, this person is talking about this. 1:17:52.680 --> 1:17:53.799 This is kind of crazy. 1:17:54.120 --> 1:17:56.759 I mean yeah, like Andrew Tate talking to Tucker Calson 1:17:56.800 --> 1:17:58.920 about it and Tucker Calson doing that you know that 1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.960 face he's always making with like oh really, yeah, he 1:18:02.120 --> 1:18:04.240 let it man sleep with his wife. Well, like, like, 1:18:04.320 --> 1:18:06.760 I don't know that that was insane, because that's kind 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:09.759 of like two of the biggest voices on the right. 1:18:09.880 --> 1:18:12.000 I guess watching Logan Paul talk about it the other 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:13.439 day kind of trip me out. Just him. 1:18:13.439 --> 1:18:15.080 I mean, he was giving you props for your like 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:16.080 mental fortitude. 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:18.320 Yeah, and I thought that was pretty cool. 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:20.920 You seem extremely unfazed by a lot of this. 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:24.360 Yeah, I'm pretty my heart is cold. 1:18:24.600 --> 1:18:24.840 Yeah. 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:26.799 I mean, I'm sure you would have done this unless 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:30.040 you knew you could fully like go sleep at night 1:18:30.080 --> 1:18:31.439 without any Yeah. 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:33.559 I mean, at this point, in terms of how I 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.960 view myself as a public figure, it's just I'm really 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:37.680 not scared of the smoke. I think that there was 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:40.599 a time period after like those dudes left the channel 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:44.320 where I really didn't I just didn't want a beef. 1:18:44.360 --> 1:18:46.080 I didn't want to fight. I didn't want to like, 1:18:46.120 --> 1:18:48.640 I just I was just really turned off to like 1:18:48.760 --> 1:18:51.479 all the drama and stuff. And then having gone through 1:18:52.080 --> 1:18:55.200 the Great Cucking of twenty twenty three and the result 1:18:55.280 --> 1:18:58.519 with the resulting media storm, even just the shit that 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:00.479 I just said about those dudes. I mean, I'm holding 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:02.599 back like crazy. There's so much stuff I could say, 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:05.640 but why not? Like what am I scared of that 1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:07.600 they're going to do another fucking stream talking about me 1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:09.680 for the eighteen hundredth time. Like I really don't give 1:19:09.720 --> 1:19:12.640 a shit, and anybody could say anything they want about me, 1:19:12.680 --> 1:19:14.760 and I'm not really tripping about it. You know, academics 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:16.880 probably did like ten hours of live streaming about the 1:19:16.960 --> 1:19:17.320 Lena thing. 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:20.240 Did you watch his live his live commentary. 1:19:20.280 --> 1:19:21.439 I never saw any of it. 1:19:21.720 --> 1:19:24.040 He Actually what's weird with him is that he said 1:19:25.600 --> 1:19:28.040 he texted me He's like, just so you know, I'm 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:29.720 not going to talk about the Lena thing. It was 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:31.360 like right when it first came out, and I'm like, 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:34.120 I'm like, you could talk about it, like go crazy, bro, 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.320 I don't fucking care. He's like, he's like, well, it's 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:38.920 your baby, mama, YadA YadA. Like I feel like I'll 1:19:38.960 --> 1:19:40.640 be respectful and not talk about it, and I'm like, 1:19:41.320 --> 1:19:43.439 you don't have to worry, like you could talk about it. 1:19:43.439 --> 1:19:44.120 It's all good. 1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:46.040 Hey. Shout out to him though, for doing it, but 1:19:46.160 --> 1:19:48.640 then his commentary, like I didn't see it, but like 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:50.960 I heard, I just kept hearing like reviews of it 1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:53.960 from people, and it's some of it seemed kind of crazy. 1:19:54.000 --> 1:19:55.880 The one thing I got mad about is I'm like, act, 1:19:55.920 --> 1:19:58.680 don't put my kid in the thumbnaw, which to me 1:19:58.720 --> 1:19:59.439 seems obvious. 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:02.280 But that's super obvious. Keep the kid out of it. 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:04.960 His fucking twitch mods or whoever they I guess they 1:20:04.960 --> 1:20:05.800 were the ones who did it. 1:20:05.840 --> 1:20:08.840 So yeah, I'm sure he's not on photoshop making the thumbnail. 1:20:08.479 --> 1:20:09.120 Which makes sense. 1:20:09.200 --> 1:20:11.960 Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that your wife had a number 1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:13.080 and it hit fifty x. 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:13.840 Yeah. 1:20:13.960 --> 1:20:16.599 Can you give us any sort of idea? No, because 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:19.559 we always hear, well, well, how much? How much does 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:21.160 the number have to be for it to be worth 1:20:21.600 --> 1:20:24.640 a hypothetical situation for somebody to fuck my wife or 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:26.240 you know, another person's girlfriend? 1:20:26.400 --> 1:20:26.960 Yeah? 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:28.920 Is it like north of ten million? 1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:31.240 I shall not comment. 1:20:31.360 --> 1:20:33.640 I can't, like, I would love to just fully just 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:37.160 about just hit you with the number. My girl's very uh, 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:40.800 stand offish about talking about finances and shit, like she 1:20:40.920 --> 1:20:43.080 just doesn't really want to put a dollar amount. 1:20:42.920 --> 1:20:45.360 And does this fall under the LLC that you're a 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:46.920 part of the money that comes in for this, Like 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:48.360 do you get your cut of that because it is 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:48.960 your wife? 1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:50.759 Uh not, sorry that her money? 1:20:50.840 --> 1:20:53.040 No, Yeah, yeah, I thought about that at a certain point, 1:20:53.040 --> 1:20:55.280 but I was like, you know what, like we participated 1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:58.519 in so many different deals together or whatever. Like her 1:20:59.000 --> 1:21:02.439 her whole thing is only fans from her account and 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:04.479 then the plug talk accounts, so you know, I let 1:21:04.520 --> 1:21:06.680 her have her side of things. But I can say, like, 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:10.400 even just for myself that, Okay, I had the biggest 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:12.240 month ever on Snapchat. 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:13.720 I believe like that. 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:16.080 Any channel has ever had, at least like the guy 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:18.000 that handles our Snapchat. 1:21:17.520 --> 1:21:19.280 Like, hey, you plugged me with hi, shout to Dean. 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:20.639 Shout out Dean, I put, I put. 1:21:21.080 --> 1:21:23.200 He basically told me that I made the most money 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:26.000 that of anybody had ever seen on Snapchat. From that, 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:29.920 just from talking about it, plug Talk literally doubled. It 1:21:29.960 --> 1:21:32.519 was already a great business, it doubled, which that was 1:21:32.560 --> 1:21:34.920 also kind of insane for me to see. So I 1:21:34.960 --> 1:21:37.240 can't say that, you know, I could say that, like 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:41.000 even just me talking about it and the things that 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:45.600 came from the media storm has been insane from my perspective. 1:21:45.760 --> 1:21:48.360 From her perspective, it's even more insane. It's the best 1:21:48.400 --> 1:21:50.560 selling only fans seen of all time. 1:21:51.120 --> 1:21:54.080 Because she she was selling it like you had to. 1:21:54.240 --> 1:21:55.760 Pay the pay I have bucks for her only fans 1:21:55.800 --> 1:21:57.799 and you have to pay twenty dollars through the DMS 1:21:58.200 --> 1:21:59.360 in order to purchase it. 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:03.360 Wow, M do you know what what her subscriber count is? 1:22:05.040 --> 1:22:08.640 It is I think like five times the most that 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:11.960 it ever was before, but I probably I guess it 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:13.880 the exact number. Well, you can't see that if you 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:14.719 go to the page. 1:22:14.920 --> 1:22:17.600 I'm not too like, No, you could see it on 1:22:17.640 --> 1:22:18.680 her end, but you can't see that. 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:20.800 I didn't know because you know, a fucking Instagram, so 1:22:20.920 --> 1:22:22.519 you can see, you know, I don't know if it 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:25.000 shows that. No, so it's boom. Business is booming. 1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:25.960 Business is booming. 1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:28.160 I want to get real quick before before we wrap. 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:31.559 I think that like one thing that you said when 1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:33.840 all this shit was like going left, was like if 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:38.519 you take YouTube revenue out of your uh business model, 1:22:38.840 --> 1:22:40.920 just like on some content creator shit, like kind of 1:22:40.960 --> 1:22:42.840 give me like a little peek into what the business 1:22:42.840 --> 1:22:45.519 of no Jumper is and like how you're able to 1:22:45.680 --> 1:22:48.240 monetize on so many levels you mentioned the Snapchat. 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:52.400 Show, Snapchat, Facebook, Patreon on the monetization of the audio 1:22:52.680 --> 1:22:55.080 on you know, any app where you listen to just 1:22:55.120 --> 1:22:59.640 the audio and it inserts ads into it, brand deals, merchandise, 1:23:01.360 --> 1:23:04.160 you know, obviously plugtalk is its own fucking world. 1:23:06.640 --> 1:23:08.200 Yeah, there's just there's a lot. 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:10.320 That's why I was crazy when people are like, oh, 1:23:10.360 --> 1:23:13.120 like his business is done because these hosts left. I'm like, 1:23:14.000 --> 1:23:18.920 maybe I'm gonna make you know, twenty thousand dollars less 1:23:18.960 --> 1:23:21.479 this month, maybe thirty thousand dollars less this month because 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:25.280 all these hosts left. That means nothing to me. That 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:29.920 is nothing. I could gladly throw twenty thousand dollars in 1:23:29.960 --> 1:23:31.880 the trash every single month, then it would mean nothing 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.559 to me. My mortgage on the space is like twenty 1:23:34.560 --> 1:23:36.760 grand a month, and that means nothing to me. So 1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:40.000 it's like, people really got me fucked up financially sometimes, 1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:41.920 And I guess I kind of ask for it because 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:44.040 I don't flex or like do any well. 1:23:44.000 --> 1:23:46.080 You've been flexing lately, but not really. 1:23:46.000 --> 1:23:47.599 Right, Like you never seen me buy anything, you never 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:48.360 seen me. 1:23:48.560 --> 1:23:50.640 You threw up the numbers. I mean, you put the 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:53.759 fist over the dollar amount for you too, But you know, yeah. 1:23:53.640 --> 1:23:54.400 I do the view count. 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:56.000 I'm not I'm not telling people how much money we 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:56.679 make or whatever. 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.000 But yeah, that's always a weird one when people are like, oh, no, 1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:00.960 jumpers doing bad and that's why his wife did a 1:24:01.000 --> 1:24:03.320 porn steam of this other guy. It's like, just because 1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:05.639 me and my wife were both multimillionaires does not mean 1:24:05.640 --> 1:24:08.599 that we don't want to also make many, many more 1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:12.120 millions of dollars. You know. Like for me, I look 1:24:12.160 --> 1:24:13.640 at my life all the time and I have like 1:24:13.680 --> 1:24:15.880 basically like two different versions of it. It's like, there's 1:24:15.880 --> 1:24:17.639 the version of my life right now where I'm working 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:19.839 my ass off trying to make as much money as possible, 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:21.960 and then I have this other version that's like, well, 1:24:22.000 --> 1:24:24.920 what if I just went into chill mode and only 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:28.240 made money off of my more passive revenue streams, Like, 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:31.519 to put it in perspective, just from selling Instagram promo, 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:33.560 I could easily. 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:34.559 Yeah, the ig is its own beast. 1:24:34.680 --> 1:24:37.439 I could have my own my entire life, paid for 1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:41.080 my kid in private school, still going on vacations from 1:24:41.280 --> 1:24:42.719 just the Instagram promo. 1:24:43.640 --> 1:24:44.320 Think about that. 1:24:44.320 --> 1:24:48.439 That is a tiny percent and it's still enough to 1:24:48.520 --> 1:24:50.800 keep everything afloat. And when I was going through all 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:52.920 that shit, I did like think about that, like, well, 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:55.160 maybe I'd be happier if I just did whatever the 1:24:55.160 --> 1:24:57.240 fuck I wanted to do all the time. I remember 1:24:57.280 --> 1:24:59.479 I was doing a podcast with Ryan long As, a 1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.880 comedian New York, and I said something about like, how lately, Yeah, 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:04.840 I've just been thinking like maybe I just want to, like, 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:06.679 you know, spend more time with the family and spend 1:25:06.680 --> 1:25:08.760 more time around my kid. And he laughed in my 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:11.519 face and he goes, He's like a guy, like you, 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:14.120 like you're not what are you gonna do? Just sit 1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:16.759 around and watch your kid grow up? He's like laughing 1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:20.559 in my face. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, 1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:23.280 Like how the fuck I can't chill out like maybe 1:25:23.320 --> 1:25:25.640 when I'm older or like, you know, I respect the 1:25:25.640 --> 1:25:27.479 fuck out of it when I see my girl able 1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:29.360 to sit around the house for twelve hours all day 1:25:29.360 --> 1:25:31.240 and do nothing but play with blocks with the kid 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.160 and right take it for a walk around the buck 1:25:33.240 --> 1:25:35.920 and all that. And when I do have days where 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:38.760 it's just me at the house, I force myself to 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:41.160 be as present as possible, keep the phone on, doing 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:44.360 how disturbed try not to be sending text to people 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:46.760 about content all the fucking time, trying not to look 1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:48.320 at TikTok and Twitter and all this shit. 1:25:48.680 --> 1:25:51.840 But it's like, you know, I'm still in my moment. 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:54.160 I'm still like, I have content I want to make, 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:55.759 I have things I want to do with my life. 1:25:56.040 --> 1:25:58.880 Sometimes the hard part is that there's just too many 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:00.000 things I want to do in my life. 1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:01.680 I want to go play in all these fucking. 1:26:01.439 --> 1:26:03.240 Poker You're a fucking poker beast. 1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:05.200 I want to go play in all these poker tournaments 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:07.519 that are like twenty thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars 1:26:07.600 --> 1:26:09.719 to enter these tournaments and shit. But this just doesn't 1:26:09.760 --> 1:26:12.920 make sense for me to take my time and spend 1:26:13.040 --> 1:26:15.479 doing those things when I could be in the office 1:26:15.520 --> 1:26:17.280 grinding out content. 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:19.479 I'm gonna say, how hands on are you with what 1:26:19.520 --> 1:26:19.960 we see? 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:20.280 Like? 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:23.040 Are you like, Hey, we just did this interview. Make 1:26:23.040 --> 1:26:25.720 sure you clip this, this, this, and this, or do 1:26:25.840 --> 1:26:29.040 your editors send the title? Hey, this is the title. 1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:30.000 Do you approve or disapprove? 1:26:30.160 --> 1:26:31.880 I do an interview and then by the end of 1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:33.840 the day, one of the guys sends me a big 1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:37.400 email with the time stamps and suggested clips and then 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:40.000 I sit down did it last night. I did a 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:41.559 fuck load of the shit last night for like an 1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:43.599 hour before I went to bed, where I just sat down. 1:26:44.080 --> 1:26:48.360 I approved or denied every single title for the clips, 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:52.160 wrote the full title starred things that would be like 1:26:52.200 --> 1:26:53.800 a good TikTok moment or whatever. 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:56.480 You're like, you're fucking I'm stary hands. 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.400 On because I don't think you know. And now, like 1:26:58.439 --> 1:27:00.439 shout out Remo. I have Remo in my life who 1:27:00.479 --> 1:27:02.880 like helps me write questions for some of the interviews, 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:05.599 helps me with titles sometimes. So to even have one 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.920 person that you really trust with that kind of stuff 1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:10.639 is amazing. But at the same time, like I could 1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:13.080 definitely take the five or ten minutes to review the 1:27:13.080 --> 1:27:15.360 time stamps that he sends through so I can approve 1:27:15.400 --> 1:27:17.680 it or not, because that's yeah, that's just one thing 1:27:17.680 --> 1:27:19.120 where it's just like I know how I want my 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:20.000 shit to be clipped. 1:27:20.120 --> 1:27:23.760 And then you you stopped going live, right, there's no 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:26.160 more like like when you do the Wednesday or the 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:28.280 No Jumper show, it's not live anymore. Is there a 1:27:28.280 --> 1:27:29.640 reason why you stop that? 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.320 The number one reason is that we were doing the 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:35.559 live thing at six pm, which I've just become more 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.840 and more aware of, like my own body and my 1:27:37.880 --> 1:27:40.400 own mind. Yeah, it's late, it's late. Yeah, it's like 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:41.599 by the time six pm, role. 1:27:41.640 --> 1:27:43.840 You get home at like eight forty five, nine o'clock, Like. 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:46.639 Yeah, And a lot of my interviews that I'm doing 1:27:46.680 --> 1:27:48.720 are early in the week, so it's like I might 1:27:48.800 --> 1:27:51.080 sit down and do three interviews throughout the course of 1:27:51.080 --> 1:27:54.000 the day on Tuesday and then also stream and have 1:27:54.040 --> 1:27:56.200 to have the energy to have a really great conversation 1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:58.920 for two hours at six pm. At a certain point, 1:27:58.960 --> 1:28:00.840 I was like, oh, so if I don't go live, 1:28:01.640 --> 1:28:04.800 I can have a better chance of getting the content monetized. 1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.400 It'll be better and have the clips ready to go, 1:28:07.520 --> 1:28:09.599 and I'll enjoy it more and it'll be better content. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:11.439 I think that going live is like really good when 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:14.400 you're still in that period of your career where you're 1:28:14.439 --> 1:28:19.000 like trying to you know, activate your fan base, and because. 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:21.280 You can interact, you get the super chats going, and. 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:22.800 I respect the fuck out of it. But I'm just 1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:24.599 not at that place in my life where I want 1:28:24.640 --> 1:28:27.160 to be hanging out in the studio until midnight every night, 1:28:27.200 --> 1:28:29.000 I see fresh and fit do it, I see fucking 1:28:29.080 --> 1:28:32.160 whatever do it, and I just don't. I don't know. 1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:33.800 For me, it just makes more sense to record the 1:28:33.840 --> 1:28:36.000 shit in advance, like I could do all my interviews live. 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:39.719 But then you know, something like the Whack one hundred podcast, 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:42.200 it's like I'm paying him out a percentage of what 1:28:42.240 --> 1:28:44.559 we make from it. And it's like, if we do 1:28:44.640 --> 1:28:47.759 it live and it earns one hundred dollars as opposed 1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:49.800 to us doing it in advance and being able to 1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:52.559 cut the swears out of the beginning and do all that, 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:55.320 and it makes you know, many many thousands of dollars 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:57.920 for somebody like him. It's like, what am I going 1:28:58.000 --> 1:29:00.400 to tell him, Like, Hey, you didn't make this that 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:02.360 much of this month, but it is because we went live. 1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:03.920 Like that's just would seem insane to me. 1:29:04.120 --> 1:29:05.680 So that you're deal with Whack, is you just ad 1:29:05.720 --> 1:29:08.280 revenue split? Yeah, we're partners on this on these videos. 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:10.720 You'll see full transparency this with the videos made this 1:29:10.800 --> 1:29:11.840 what you made type shit. 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:14.320 I want to incentivize somebody like him, and I don't 1:29:14.320 --> 1:29:15.439 mind doing that. 1:29:15.479 --> 1:29:17.479 You know, we make up, we make the money in 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:18.160 other ways. 1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:21.120 I was gonna say, you did start editing out curse 1:29:21.160 --> 1:29:23.439 words for the first couple of minutes. I was gonna say, 1:29:23.520 --> 1:29:26.320 what minute point is the cutoff because I've I've started 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:28.120 out my guys do like the first five minutes, just 1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:28.679 to be safe. 1:29:29.120 --> 1:29:31.760 Yeah, but then sometimes it's like you'll interview somebody who 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:32.679 says the N word at. 1:29:32.560 --> 1:29:35.760 The end of every sentence. They cut that out, like it. 1:29:35.840 --> 1:29:37.360 Just really sounds crazy. 1:29:37.720 --> 1:29:39.599 I don't know. We try to like hit a good 1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:42.640 balance with it, but I never tell the person like 1:29:42.640 --> 1:29:43.840 trying not to swear for the first come. 1:29:43.960 --> 1:29:45.760 And I talk about so much mushroom shit on the 1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:48.400 fucking podcast, so like anytime we have like a dope 1:29:48.400 --> 1:29:50.639 shroom clip, I just know it's gonna get the yellow 1:29:50.680 --> 1:29:51.680 fucking dollar sign. 1:29:51.800 --> 1:29:54.280 I didn't even think about the There's been a few 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:57.200 episodes like I got a Rampage Jackson interview. It was 1:29:57.320 --> 1:30:00.200 so good and I just was never able to get 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:03.160 it to turn green for like three weeks? How many? 1:30:03.200 --> 1:30:04.800 Like how many? Because will you do the same thing 1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:07.080 we do, Well, we'll put up a version and then 1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:10.799 it hits yellow fuck re upload. Let's redo this. 1:30:10.800 --> 1:30:13.320 Over and over and over. Yeah, but that that Rampage one. 1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:14.679 I don't know what it was. I think he said 1:30:14.760 --> 1:30:19.200 trammy or like retard. I think, if you want, I 1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:21.880 think he was saying those words one of those words 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:24.400 a few times. Never able to get it monetized, and 1:30:24.520 --> 1:30:26.120 it's kind of like not that big a deal, like 1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:28.240 you're talking about a couple thousand bucks, but it's like, 1:30:29.439 --> 1:30:31.160 you know, it's like, well, that's my money that I 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:32.720 was supposed to make for that day. When I went 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:35.200 in and sat down for a couple hours, I remember 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:39.120 my house flooded the night before the Rampage Jackson interview, 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:41.479 and that really stood out to me extra like I 1:30:41.520 --> 1:30:43.479 felt like I deserved to get paid for it because 1:30:43.479 --> 1:30:46.160 I had been like bucketing water. Yeah yeah, I'd been 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:49.519 bucketing water out of my fucking living room earlier in 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:51.680 the day. That really seemed like I deserve to get 1:30:51.680 --> 1:30:52.920 paid for what I did the next day. 1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:56.960 But you know whatever, Yeah, it's definitely a struggle YouTube. 1:30:56.960 --> 1:30:59.720 I feel like you guys aren't a Rumble yet. Huh. 1:31:00.120 --> 1:31:02.400 We made an account because we had a YouTube strike 1:31:02.439 --> 1:31:04.360 so we couldn't upload for a week, and so we 1:31:04.400 --> 1:31:07.679 did make a Rumble account, but we haven't really stayed 1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:08.960 up on it as far as I know. 1:31:09.320 --> 1:31:12.519 Yeah, I was like, I was like, I wonder if 1:31:12.600 --> 1:31:16.439 Rumble's gonna really take because they've been spending so much 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:18.720 fucking money between the Kick and the Rumbles like that. 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:21.040 I try to be audience first, you know. 1:31:21.120 --> 1:31:23.919 Yeah, and that's where YouTube is where the audience exactly. 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:26.160 And it's like, you know, maybe if somebody said, hey, 1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:28.439 We're going to give you an extra two hundred grand 1:31:28.439 --> 1:31:31.040 a month to just stream your shit on Rumble, like well, okay, 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:34.240 that does sound kind of appealing, but like, especially in 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:35.920 the position that I'm kind of in where a bunch 1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:37.560 of the hosts just laughed, it's like you want to 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:39.920 make you want to make the experience as easy as 1:31:39.920 --> 1:31:43.280 possible on your fans, and I don't know, it's like 1:31:43.760 --> 1:31:46.439 I've gotten those offers before of like caffeine and all 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:48.960 this shit, and it's like you really think that I'm 1:31:49.000 --> 1:31:52.400 just like gonna just completely fuck over my fans just 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:54.760 to just to get a little extra money. It's like 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:56.519 I can make money in other ways, Like I would 1:31:56.600 --> 1:31:59.120 rather just go lab on the platform that built us 1:31:59.120 --> 1:31:59.760 in the first place. 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:02.840 You know, I feel like you're overdue for a Rogan interview. 1:32:02.840 --> 1:32:04.000 Has that ever almost happened. 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:08.160 So the Rogan narrative is that one day Rogan was 1:32:08.200 --> 1:32:10.280 in the airport, which is kind of interesting. This is 1:32:10.320 --> 1:32:14.000 like twenty eighteen. Maybe he's in the airport, which I 1:32:14.000 --> 1:32:16.360 would assume he mostly flies private. He doesn't seem like 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:17.880 the kind of guy who should be just hopping on 1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:18.479 a plane. 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:20.280 Right, He seems like it also seems like kind of 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:21.120 like a normal dude. 1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:23.120 Yeah, but also it's just like, damn, Joe Rogan. I 1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:25.280 how fucking annoying it is to be in the airport. 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:28.760 God like trying to jerk you off. 1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:30.720 Dude, insane. I've heard. 1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:32.519 I've heard about him like trying to go work out 1:32:32.520 --> 1:32:34.519 in the hotel lobby or not in the lobby, but 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:37.040 in the hotel gym. Dude's just washing him and they 1:32:37.080 --> 1:32:38.920 have to like shut the gym down because it's like 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:42.280 every person in there is a potential Joe Rogan fan, especially. 1:32:41.960 --> 1:32:42.639 At the gym. 1:32:42.720 --> 1:32:43.759 Especially at the gym. 1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:47.200 But so he's in the airport and some fan of 1:32:47.240 --> 1:32:49.360 mine who I can't even remember who it was. I 1:32:49.360 --> 1:32:51.120 know it's somebody that I actually know in real life, 1:32:51.320 --> 1:32:53.920 he goes up to him and he's on acid, and 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:57.519 he says to Joe Rogan. He says, Joe, I'm on acid, 1:32:58.280 --> 1:33:00.360 but you need to do a podcast with Adams two. 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:02.719 He's this shit YadA YadA, YadA, and just starts telling 1:33:02.800 --> 1:33:05.599 him about me. And then I wake up the next 1:33:05.600 --> 1:33:08.400 morning and I first thing I see is a text 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:10.000 from this dude telling me about how he was on 1:33:10.080 --> 1:33:12.120 acid and he told Joe Rogan about me at the airport. 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:14.320 And I'm just looking at my text, like what the fuck? 1:33:14.640 --> 1:33:17.439 And then I look at Twitter boom Joe Rogan follow 1:33:18.320 --> 1:33:21.120 and Joe Rogan DM saying, Hey, I met this guy 1:33:21.160 --> 1:33:22.519 on acid in the airport and he told me that 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:25.080 I should fuck with you. And I was just like, Wow, 1:33:25.120 --> 1:33:27.360 that's amazing, dude. I'm a huge fan. You're one of 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:29.200 the main people that made me want to do podcasts 1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:30.760 in the first place. I really have to thank you 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:32.360 for like a lot of the good things that happened 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.240 in my life the past couple of years. YadA YadA 1:33:34.680 --> 1:33:38.360 didn't respond to that, and sent him a couple of 1:33:38.360 --> 1:33:40.040 different things over the years of like, look at this 1:33:40.120 --> 1:33:42.760 viral moment or look at this conversation I had that 1:33:42.840 --> 1:33:45.640 I thought you might like, and he doesn't. He's never responded. 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:49.799 Somebody was talking about plug talk on his Bert Kreischner 1:33:49.880 --> 1:33:50.320 was talking. 1:33:50.120 --> 1:33:51.760 About We talked about it a couple times on there, 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:54.360 couple I only know of one, but they talked about 1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:56.360 it on they did the protect your Park shit with 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:58.760 the like I watched a lot of Joe Rogan. 1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:00.479 See I watch a f amount of it. 1:34:00.560 --> 1:34:01.720 No, yeah, but you've been brought up on there a 1:34:01.720 --> 1:34:02.240 couple of times. 1:34:02.720 --> 1:34:05.599 But yeah, I have no idea how you actually get 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:06.799 on Joe Rogan. I'll gladly. 1:34:06.960 --> 1:34:08.920 I think it's kind of his thing. I'm not sure 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:11.000 he has like a fucking whatever. 1:34:10.720 --> 1:34:13.800 He's interested in. Yeah, sometimes I see him doing interviews. 1:34:13.400 --> 1:34:15.320 With people that are like really official, and I'm like, oh, 1:34:15.320 --> 1:34:18.320 that person's PR team probably will line this up with 1:34:18.400 --> 1:34:19.320 old Joe Rhodes. 1:34:19.360 --> 1:34:22.439 But I'm surprised, Like hash, I'm surprised I haven't seen 1:34:22.479 --> 1:34:24.519 Rober Kennedy on your podcast or you try to stay 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:25.440 away from the politics. 1:34:26.439 --> 1:34:28.519 I think he's a kapper, do you think so? 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:31.080 I listened to a whole interview with him, found him 1:34:31.120 --> 1:34:35.040 kind of impressive, and then I listened to another podcast 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:38.040 that sort of broke down all of his lies I 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:40.840 think he has a very strained relationship with the truth, 1:34:41.720 --> 1:34:43.599 and I'm not really interested in a lot of these 1:34:43.640 --> 1:34:46.680 people that are sort of making careers out of, you know, 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:50.800 basically casting suspicion on the vaccine in ways that I 1:34:50.840 --> 1:34:54.080 don't think make any fucking sense. Uh So, Yeah, I'm 1:34:54.080 --> 1:34:56.920 not really a big fan of that guy, not a fan. 1:34:58.439 --> 1:35:00.080 He might have some good things to say, but I 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:02.400 I don't really feel like he's being honest with his audience. 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:06.639 Do you think because your obviously dad had a big 1:35:06.720 --> 1:35:08.639 career in politics, right, you grew. 1:35:08.479 --> 1:35:09.680 Up, A lot of people think that. 1:35:09.720 --> 1:35:11.639 But well, I mean, obviously he was close with the 1:35:11.640 --> 1:35:12.639 Democratic Party. 1:35:12.880 --> 1:35:14.439 Yeah, A lot of people think I might be in 1:35:14.479 --> 1:35:19.000 the illuminati because my dad was an unpaid staffer volunteering 1:35:19.080 --> 1:35:21.280 to help out Bill Clinton when Bill Clinton was a 1:35:21.280 --> 1:35:22.200 total fucking nobody. 1:35:22.240 --> 1:35:24.120 Well, I guess he was the governor of Arkansas. 1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:24.720 But right, he wasn't it. 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:27.160 Yeah, my dad like helped out on his campaign, and 1:35:27.960 --> 1:35:30.960 my uncle actually got like a role within the Clinton 1:35:31.000 --> 1:35:36.479 administration and managed to survive into the Bush administration with 1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:39.120 the same gig, kept the same job basically doing some 1:35:39.160 --> 1:35:41.800 like diplomatic work with other countries and stuff like that, 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:45.360 But yeah, my dad had you know, I think my 1:35:45.439 --> 1:35:48.599 dad like pictured himself having a longer career in politics, 1:35:48.600 --> 1:35:51.760 but then he ended up catching a fed case, being 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:55.320 charged with mail fraud because of some shisty business that 1:35:55.360 --> 1:35:57.240 he was accused of doing. That he's still to this 1:35:57.320 --> 1:35:59.479 day claims that he did not do. But I think 1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:01.640 that kind of through a stick in the spokes of 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:02.840 his political aspirations. 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:05.000 Well, I was going to say, you, I mean, I 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:08.040 grew up a Democrat, you know, on my families that way. 1:36:08.080 --> 1:36:11.080 But it feels like politically shit is just kind of 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:12.800 I don't know what's going on, no more bro on 1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:14.400 both sides, it's just wild. 1:36:14.360 --> 1:36:16.360 Like, yeah, I feel like a man without a home 1:36:16.400 --> 1:36:18.559 because I don't you know, I can't vibe with all 1:36:18.600 --> 1:36:20.640 these fucking social justice warrior lunatics. 1:36:21.240 --> 1:36:22.880 I can't vibe with like the. 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:27.439 Trump, the crazy psychotic Trump sh the GOP, even like 1:36:27.520 --> 1:36:30.679 fucking deranged death cult. Yeah, Desants is a wild boy, 1:36:30.840 --> 1:36:32.920 Like I'm good on It's just like like you said, like, 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:34.120 where's the normal do. 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.439 At the middle of the road. There's got to be 1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:38.880 something that's a little bit more middle of the road, Like, 1:36:38.920 --> 1:36:41.320 you know, I don't really like even Biden. I don't 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:45.280 think Biden has like crazy ideas about gender in his head, 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:48.320 in his ninety thousand year old head, but I do 1:36:48.360 --> 1:36:51.320 think he has people on his cabinet or like working 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:56.439 within his administration that have insane ideas about gender. And 1:36:56.880 --> 1:36:58.880 you know, it's kind of unfortunate that I have to 1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:02.479 vote for somebody who is basically being held hostage by 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:04.880 a lot of these crazy ass ideas, since I don't 1:37:04.880 --> 1:37:07.479 think he's personally really invested in it. But at the 1:37:07.520 --> 1:37:10.360 same time, could I vote for Trump who tried to 1:37:10.400 --> 1:37:10.760 steal the. 1:37:10.760 --> 1:37:13.880 Election couldn't do it? No, so I couldn't vote for Trump. No, 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:16.280 I agree for me, I'm hoping this is like I'm 1:37:16.320 --> 1:37:18.000 a vote for Cornell West the Green Party. 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:21.559 No, I like that. What's his name, the Indian guy, 1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:22.519 the Republican Canadate. 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:24.679 He's actually not a crazy person, kind of like him. 1:37:24.720 --> 1:37:29.840 I still can't remember how to say his name, Vi Vivic. 1:37:30.040 --> 1:37:34.280 I'm gonna call him Vivek Rashashana. Yeah, that's not that's 1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:36.240 not that, but it's something that kind of sounds like that. 1:37:36.280 --> 1:37:38.040 I listened to like a two hour podcast with him 1:37:38.080 --> 1:37:40.679 the other day, and I kept thinking about you listening 1:37:40.680 --> 1:37:41.639 to the All In podcast. 1:37:41.800 --> 1:37:44.599 Yeah, I actually saw the Robert F. Kennedy podcast on there. 1:37:44.439 --> 1:37:46.160 And that is what I was referring to. Yeah, he 1:37:46.680 --> 1:37:50.040 uh did a really good job on that episode, So that. 1:37:50.000 --> 1:37:51.639 Was I came away from that being like, I'm voting 1:37:51.680 --> 1:37:52.120 for this guy. 1:37:52.240 --> 1:37:54.720 Oh the Kennedy one, Yeah, oh yeah, I thought it 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:58.240 was pretty good at first. But the vividfect Rahashana, whose name. 1:37:58.320 --> 1:37:59.160 I got to check him out. 1:37:59.200 --> 1:38:01.639 I thought he had a very good appearance on there. 1:38:01.720 --> 1:38:02.960 So that was also. 1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:05.800 Man vote voting for a Republican I've never seen it 1:38:05.800 --> 1:38:06.080 would be. 1:38:06.160 --> 1:38:08.120 I've never even think I've never even thought about that 1:38:08.160 --> 1:38:08.719 in my life. 1:38:08.880 --> 1:38:11.439 Yeah, but it just takes the Democratic Party getting a 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:14.320 little bit crazier and the GOP getting a little bit 1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:16.760 more normal, and I could find myself there. And also 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:18.439 it doesn't feel like it would be that big a deal, 1:38:18.479 --> 1:38:21.920 whereas like two white guys admitting, like in who exists 1:38:21.960 --> 1:38:25.160 in hip Hop admitting that they've considering voting for Republican. 1:38:25.280 --> 1:38:27.479 I mean, I feel like we would have had a 1:38:27.479 --> 1:38:30.679 BuzzFeed article about us already if this was taking place, Like. 1:38:30.680 --> 1:38:32.479 I mean, I'm gonna be honest, like I'm not voting 1:38:32.520 --> 1:38:35.360 for I mean, the only guy who I've heard is 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:38.600 like reasonable as a guy you just brought up. I mean, unfortunately, 1:38:38.600 --> 1:38:41.160 if it's DeSantis and Trump or one of them two 1:38:41.280 --> 1:38:43.320 versus Biden, I'm just gonna have to vote for Sleepy 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:46.240 Joe again. I'm really, honestly probably going to vote for 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:48.920 Cornell West. I'm just going to surrender my vote to 1:38:48.960 --> 1:38:49.559 the third party. 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:51.320 I do think Biden has done a pretty good job, 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:54.799 regardless of his own lack of cognitition. 1:38:54.920 --> 1:38:56.960 Yeah, I mean, look, he seems like he's barely hanging on. 1:38:58.000 --> 1:39:01.040 I feel like the Afghanistan with draw was done in 1:39:01.080 --> 1:39:04.559 an extremely messy and terrible way, and now China's there 1:39:04.600 --> 1:39:07.800 and it's very unstable, and uh, I hate the fact 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:12.200 that this Ukraine War is becoming I mean it. I mean, look, 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:14.600 it's pushing China and Russia closer together. I think the 1:39:14.680 --> 1:39:15.960 Ukraine Wars a fucking disaster. 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:18.120 Yeah, but can you imagine how bad it would have 1:39:18.120 --> 1:39:19.880 been if Trump was the president during it. 1:39:20.040 --> 1:39:22.840 I don't know, I don't know, we don't know. 1:39:22.880 --> 1:39:24.880 We had a very hard time standing up to Russia. 1:39:25.640 --> 1:39:26.120 Yeah, I don't know. 1:39:26.720 --> 1:39:28.880 Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe has been gangster as fuck. He 1:39:28.960 --> 1:39:29.639 is not scared of. 1:39:29.560 --> 1:39:32.360 The r I'm waiting for the Hunter Biden podcast run 1:39:32.680 --> 1:39:36.000 whenever he's clear from whatever Plea deal that just fell through. 1:39:36.120 --> 1:39:37.559 Yeah it fell through, isn't that crazy? 1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:39.519 I just got done listening to a New York Times 1:39:39.560 --> 1:39:42.600 Daily podcast about the deal and then find out the 1:39:42.640 --> 1:39:44.920 deal that they made this podcast about him taking did 1:39:44.960 --> 1:39:45.519 not happen. 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:48.160 Yeah, he got He thought if he took the plea 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:52.560 everything it was included, and the judge was like, nope. 1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:54.360 Poor sleepy Joe and its crackhead. 1:39:54.400 --> 1:39:58.240 So on, Oh hey, I'm not gonna lie though, Hunter 1:39:58.320 --> 1:40:00.439 Biden looked like he was a hell of a hand brouh. 1:40:00.760 --> 1:40:03.280 This guy was having sex parties, smoking crack, going one 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:04.680 hundred and seventy miles an hour in the. 1:40:04.600 --> 1:40:06.560 Nevaday Exact with strangers. 1:40:06.640 --> 1:40:08.240 Just a wild bully. 1:40:08.040 --> 1:40:09.720 Leaving your laptop at the at the. 1:40:10.000 --> 1:40:12.800 Like a very reckless, one of one guy. 1:40:13.160 --> 1:40:14.479 Kind of sounds like a lot of the people I'd 1:40:14.560 --> 1:40:15.000 be interviewing. 1:40:15.040 --> 1:40:17.600 Yeah, yeah, like yeah, it's like this guy should be 1:40:17.600 --> 1:40:19.840 on No Jumper with Kritmak right, Like, I. 1:40:19.840 --> 1:40:22.719 Think Hunter Biden and Taste Savage would probably get along 1:40:23.040 --> 1:40:23.479 I don't know. 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:25.920 It's crazy man. Well, look I appreciate you pulling up. 1:40:26.080 --> 1:40:29.920 Uh congrats on uh you know, proving everybody wrong because 1:40:30.280 --> 1:40:32.840 the channel's thriving. You're doing well. I like, I love 1:40:32.880 --> 1:40:33.519 the Whax Show. 1:40:34.320 --> 1:40:37.439 We got a long ways to go, but we're going up, up, 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:38.920 up to the top. 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:41.559 I love, I love the new host. I love I mean, 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:43.280 I think Brick Bay. I text brick Baby because I 1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:44.920 know brick Baby since he was running aroun with kids. 1:40:45.040 --> 1:40:50.280 Baby better he's doing his thing maybe better? And uh yeah, 1:40:50.280 --> 1:40:52.280 what's up with flock? Are we snitching on this? Uh? 1:40:52.320 --> 1:40:54.400 This this swiper man. 1:40:54.520 --> 1:40:56.439 I saw he put a post up saying like if 1:40:56.479 --> 1:40:59.240 you if you got any essentially if you weren't telling 1:40:59.320 --> 1:41:00.360 this guy DM me and you. 1:41:00.320 --> 1:41:03.719 Know who hit me up is Ugly God very upset 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:07.240 about Ugly God the rapper who apparently Ugly God and 1:41:07.439 --> 1:41:10.439 Punch made dev have a relationship their friends, oh, which 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:12.800 I had no idea about. And Ugly God hit me 1:41:12.880 --> 1:41:15.960 up basically saying fuck Flocco. I was like, I thought 1:41:16.000 --> 1:41:17.559 this was all for content. I didn't think. 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:19.720 Because he's like openly advocating like hit me up. I'm 1:41:19.720 --> 1:41:22.479 putting it like I'm essentially it felt like one of 1:41:22.479 --> 1:41:24.360 those commercials you're watching in the middle of the day 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.080 for like a class action lawsuits. 1:41:26.120 --> 1:41:28.759 Well, because okay, so I lived through the TJX six 1:41:29.360 --> 1:41:32.200 arc right, and I thought this was the same thing 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.240 as that because TJ six, I'm gonna be real with you, 1:41:34.320 --> 1:41:37.479 he was not really like scamming like that, like at 1:41:37.560 --> 1:41:38.280 least once. 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:41.320 He begins having sending money for like a manual. 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:43.160 And yeah, but he did so much fake shit, like 1:41:43.160 --> 1:41:45.639 he had he had a show at a warehouse or whatever, 1:41:45.720 --> 1:41:47.720 and he had like a fake cop come and arrest him. 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:49.320 It feels like the kind of thing you'd be at. 1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:51.160 I wasn't there, but I saw the video. 1:41:51.160 --> 1:41:52.240 I wish it's like the kind of thing he would 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:52.519 have been at. 1:41:52.680 --> 1:41:52.760 No. 1:41:52.840 --> 1:41:55.280 Yeah, that was like one of the best interviews ever, Like, 1:41:55.400 --> 1:41:57.280 and I remember as soon as I got in the interview, 1:41:57.600 --> 1:41:59.160 because he said a lot of stuff that like it 1:41:59.200 --> 1:42:01.879 didn't feel like but it's like it was so absurd 1:42:01.920 --> 1:42:03.479 that I knew he had to kind of be trolling. 1:42:03.560 --> 1:42:06.120 Like he goes, I'm like, when are you gonna stop scamming? 1:42:06.360 --> 1:42:08.679 I'm never gonna stop. I'm gonna do this shit for life. 1:42:08.720 --> 1:42:10.519 And I'm just thinking in my head, I'm like, Okay, 1:42:10.560 --> 1:42:12.960 this isn't real, Like this is just a dude like 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:15.519 shit to go viral. And then as soon as we 1:42:15.520 --> 1:42:17.839 get done the interview, he goes over to his bandager 1:42:17.880 --> 1:42:18.400 and he's just. 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:22.160 Like, ah, that shit goes crazy, like this shit gonna 1:42:22.200 --> 1:42:25.960 be old d And I'm just realizing in my head, like, ah, 1:42:26.000 --> 1:42:28.599 I just got played, but I don't even care because 1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:29.439 it was great content. 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:31.840 So like I assume when I see like Punch Made 1:42:31.840 --> 1:42:34.400 Dev his video got taken down by the Feds and 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:37.920 they're investigating them, I just assume that it's probably cap 1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:40.160 it's probably marketing right right, But maybe it's not. 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:41.599 Maybe he's a real deal. I don't know. 1:42:41.840 --> 1:42:44.800 So for you, like, do pull Flocko call him? Hey, 1:42:44.840 --> 1:42:45.320 what's going on? 1:42:45.360 --> 1:42:46.120 Bro? Are we are? We? 1:42:46.240 --> 1:42:49.840 Like, are you like snitching on this guy because you 1:42:49.880 --> 1:42:51.040 obviously he's under your roof. 1:42:51.360 --> 1:42:54.439 Actually, Punch Made Dev tapped in with me again about 1:42:54.520 --> 1:42:57.160 doing the interview, like we had already talked about it, 1:42:57.200 --> 1:43:00.320 and then we talked about it and then like stopped. 1:43:00.360 --> 1:43:02.320 He stopped responding for a couple of days, and then 1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:05.080 Floco went on this campaign against him and then he 1:43:05.120 --> 1:43:08.240 tapped in with me again like about doing it. So 1:43:08.400 --> 1:43:11.719 perhaps Flocko being an asshole or you know, a good citizen, 1:43:11.760 --> 1:43:13.200 depending on how you want to look at it, perhaps 1:43:13.280 --> 1:43:15.080 that is what's going to actually make the interview happen. 1:43:15.080 --> 1:43:17.080 I don't know, so I interview. Might Would you have 1:43:17.080 --> 1:43:19.640 Flocko sit in on the interview, I'd probably. 1:43:19.400 --> 1:43:22.599 Be dangerous, potentially put security in the room. 1:43:23.080 --> 1:43:25.720 Definitely have to have security. Yeah, your security at your 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.360 building is like that fucking. 1:43:29.600 --> 1:43:32.519 Crazy Tony's been in a few shootouts too, so I 1:43:32.560 --> 1:43:34.080 know that he's not scared to do it when it 1:43:34.120 --> 1:43:34.599 comes down. 1:43:34.600 --> 1:43:36.840 Like, yo, yeah you got to sign this. Let me shure. 1:43:36.840 --> 1:43:39.080 It's like I'm getting wanded. I'm like Jesus Christ. 1:43:39.120 --> 1:43:40.840 I took him to the hood with Swifty Blue the 1:43:40.880 --> 1:43:41.280 other day. 1:43:41.640 --> 1:43:42.759 Swift he is a good guy. 1:43:42.880 --> 1:43:45.759 Yeah, but I could tell that he was maybe. 1:43:45.880 --> 1:43:47.320 You took your security guard with you. 1:43:47.439 --> 1:43:49.200 Yeah, but I could tell he was maybe a little 1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:52.240 bit like worried about the fact that we were just 1:43:52.240 --> 1:43:53.800 like pulling into random. 1:43:54.320 --> 1:43:56.719 Some pretty crazy like a hood vlog. 1:43:56.960 --> 1:43:58.519 I know, I wish I had done more of that 1:43:58.520 --> 1:43:59.920 back on the day because I remember I did the 1:44:00.760 --> 1:44:02.400 stupid young Long Beach one that was. 1:44:02.360 --> 1:44:04.519 Titled inside and that was huge, like. 1:44:04.479 --> 1:44:08.120 Twelve million views Inside the Asian Crip, Gangs of Long 1:44:08.160 --> 1:44:11.040 Beach or some shit. Yeah, I went crazy, but I 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:12.840 was also just like, oh that was that was cool. 1:44:12.840 --> 1:44:14.479 But I wasn't like, oh, I got to do it again. 1:44:14.720 --> 1:44:16.040 Whereas now, when I think about it. 1:44:16.120 --> 1:44:19.240 You went to Watts, you went to over Block. Yeah, 1:44:19.439 --> 1:44:21.719 I mean you went to Whole Block relatively recently. 1:44:21.880 --> 1:44:22.920 I was like a year ago or something. 1:44:22.960 --> 1:44:25.559 Yeah, it wasn't too long ago. Yeah, which seemed to 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:28.840 be kind of a shaky thing to do as a 1:44:28.840 --> 1:44:31.960 man with a child and wife. Me let me go 1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:34.439 hang out in Old Block just for the content. 1:44:34.560 --> 1:44:36.439 I had a bunch of security as a result of 1:44:36.479 --> 1:44:38.479 the fact that I was with a hunter K track, 1:44:38.960 --> 1:44:40.880 so I really felt like nothing was gonna happen. But 1:44:40.920 --> 1:44:42.240 I tried to bring my own scurity guard and he 1:44:42.280 --> 1:44:43.840 just didn't show up. So that was the end of that. 1:44:45.120 --> 1:44:45.639 He got fired. 1:44:45.840 --> 1:44:48.680 Yeah, but you know, you live and learn. 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:51.519 Do you move around with security on a daily basis? 1:44:51.920 --> 1:44:53.920 It's like, if you're going to Whole Foods. 1:44:54.640 --> 1:44:58.599 In the words of Action Bronson, why the fuck would 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:01.080 I need a bodyguard? If you when I look just 1:45:01.160 --> 1:45:03.200 like the motherfucking bodyguard. 1:45:02.920 --> 1:45:07.439 There it is Adam twenty two. 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