Speaker 1: Blutleg cav podcast Man special guests in here. My guy,
Speaker 1: he's here. He's the hottest man on the internet.
Speaker 2: Am I. I mean, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: In more than one way.
Speaker 2: Adam twenty two bootleg keV. How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm good man. I can't complain, brother, It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: So yesterday we're in my studio and I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Adam twenty two is coming on tomorrow. I told my
Speaker 1: producer and there was like this random white dude in
Speaker 1: the studio and he was like, oh, that's the guy,
Speaker 1: right who like let the dude fuck his wife? And
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and he asked. He was like, wait,
Speaker 1: you don't know who Adams twenty two is. Like Otherwise
Speaker 1: he's like, now what does he do?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It does feel like that there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people who just found out about me from this, which
Speaker 3: is it's.
Speaker 1: Good for your business? Yeah, How has the metrics changed
Speaker 1: in terms of like just just like on a basic level,
Speaker 1: like let's say just your ig And since all this
Speaker 1: happened with Lenna, you're what?
Speaker 3: I think I might have gained like fifty thousand followers
Speaker 3: on Instagram in like sixty or.
Speaker 2: Seven on Twitter, So.
Speaker 3: Just obviously that doesn't like matter that much, but it
Speaker 3: is kind of indicative of Oh, okay, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of new eyeballs on me.
Speaker 1: I'm curious too, because, like I've seen obviously, I just saw.
Speaker 1: I think I just saw something on TikTok Lenna on
Speaker 1: why you guys chose Jason Love. Okay, how long was
Speaker 1: you guys get married? Yeah, beautiful wedding was in Italy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked crazy, thank you. And then you guys appeared
Speaker 1: to have gone on the most elaborate honeymoon slash family
Speaker 1: vacation ever.
Speaker 2: That is the most baller shit that we've ever done.
Speaker 1: And it was like a month, right, there.
Speaker 3: Was so much money, the nicest hotels ever. It was
Speaker 3: like just surrounded by real deal rich people and how
Speaker 3: much like you drop in the month? Oh, probably six figures.
Speaker 1: Six figures on the honeymoon. Yeah, damn well, it looked
Speaker 1: like it for sure.
Speaker 2: It was fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: And then you guys come back, and it feels like
Speaker 1: this kind of happens, not necessarily right away, but it
Speaker 1: feels like it almost happens rather quickly.
Speaker 3: We have been talking about it basically since the beginning
Speaker 3: of the year, around January, we did like a TikTok
Speaker 3: with Jason Love while we were at the av end.
Speaker 3: I remember saying that, yeah, and it went crazy, just
Speaker 3: us joking around about the idea of her sleeping with
Speaker 3: another guy. So we already kind of had the idea
Speaker 3: in our head, and we had an idea of like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is going to be viral, like really viral like
Speaker 3: this this this might be just the thing we need
Speaker 3: to sort of switch things up and get people really
Speaker 3: really excited about it. But we definitely didn't know to
Speaker 3: what extent it was going to explode, because she had
Speaker 3: a dollar amount in her head that she told me
Speaker 3: at one point, and she has to date made like
Speaker 3: fifty dollars fifty times.
Speaker 1: That the dollar round, meaning how much money she thinks
Speaker 1: she would make if she were to do that clip and.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then it's like that times fifty. Whoa, yeah,
Speaker 3: like it was so much bigger than we ever would
Speaker 3: have dreams.
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I was going to say, because
Speaker 1: like I would say this dude, like it feels like
Speaker 1: you guys really plan this out in such a meticulous way,
Speaker 1: and I've I feel like you've done such a great
Speaker 1: job of like mastering the virality of this moment.
Speaker 3: I feel like I get being a public persona a
Speaker 3: lot more than I ever did before. And I feel
Speaker 3: like I get going viral a lot more. I feel
Speaker 3: a lot. It's ironic. I feel like this gigantic man
Speaker 3: putting dick in my bitch really kinda like helped me
Speaker 3: to like rediscover my voice because I feel like so
Speaker 3: much less scared or intimidated or worried about what I
Speaker 3: say on camera or whatever. Like, after the insanity of
Speaker 3: all this, it just feels like, oh.
Speaker 1: Like you could say whatever fuck you want at this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh, Soldier Boy said something about me on
Speaker 3: live or I'm gonna go off on Soldier Boy, Like
Speaker 3: oh fucking Cowboys said some lame shit about me on podcasts.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go off on Cowboy Like I'm just not worried.
Speaker 3: And it's like, even just like my Instagram comments, I
Speaker 3: was always kind of combing that shit and just like
Speaker 3: restricting people who would say rude shit or whatever.
Speaker 2: And at a certain point during all this, it just
Speaker 2: became like.
Speaker 1: What's the point of even looking at this shit?
Speaker 2: Who cares? Yeah, I used to like wake up and
Speaker 2: search my name on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done it.
Speaker 2: That is not happening anymore.
Speaker 1: You can't do it anymore. It's over now, it's over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty Yeah, it's crazy. Well I was going to say, like,
Speaker 1: when you guys sat down and said, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this, did you map out the promo? Did you
Speaker 1: map out Okay, we're gonna do this, this and this
Speaker 1: leading up to it, and then afterwards we're going to
Speaker 1: do this, this and the like, how much of like
Speaker 1: some of the content we saw was like absolutely planned,
Speaker 1: because a lot of it felt like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're like you were, You're really turning up and like
Speaker 1: mullan into a lot of this.
Speaker 2: Most of it wasn't like planned, plan like in advance.
Speaker 3: It was mostly just me and her kind of just
Speaker 3: talking about it and rolling with the punches and just
Speaker 3: seeing what happened and like you know, you know, like
Speaker 3: I had Okay. It was like there was one day
Speaker 3: where Jason Love did an interview a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: ago and basically it was like kind of talking spicy,
Speaker 3: being a little bit disrespectful. This was not planned. This
Speaker 3: was just him and not knowing how to act or
Speaker 3: not knowing how to deal with the spotlight, you know,
Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie. Like when I first seen it,
Speaker 3: I had like a day where I was kind of
Speaker 3: thinking about it and I was annoyed. And then like
Speaker 3: as I was going to bed that night, I just
Speaker 3: pictured in my head me making a TikTok in which
Speaker 3: I threatened him and blacklisted him from my wife's vagina.
Speaker 3: And I was just laying in bed by myself, just
Speaker 3: laughing so hard thinking about the idea of me making
Speaker 3: this TikTok. And then I woke up the next morning
Speaker 3: and I made the TikTok and I got like five
Speaker 3: million views. And I don't know, it's kind of been
Speaker 3: that over and over and over where it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: like you have no reason to like get emotionally involved
Speaker 3: in this or whatever. You can just fuck with people
Speaker 3: and troll people, and the end result is that people
Speaker 3: don't really know what was real and what wasn't real,
Speaker 3: because there was like little parts of it there but
Speaker 3: it respected.
Speaker 1: But a lot of trolling, like a lot of like
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, like that video you're talking
Speaker 1: about like when you're like you're banned from LA, like.
Speaker 4: You're bad for my husband yeah, it was just like okay,
Speaker 4: all right, well uh but but like you said, it works,
Speaker 4: and like I also want to like because obviously is
Speaker 4: there there has there been any real world complications because
Speaker 4: we I mean, I don't believe I mean, anything we
Speaker 4: see on the internet, I don't really look too much
Speaker 4: into because you've kind of mastered the internet, right, Has
Speaker 4: there been an actual any like real world complications in
Speaker 4: terms of the attention, Like has it made it harder
Speaker 4: for Lenna to do certain stuff?
Speaker 1: How does her family feel about everything?
Speaker 3: Like is I mean, our families are really cool about
Speaker 3: it in the sense that our families have never mentioned
Speaker 3: the porn thing to either of.
Speaker 2: Us ever ever.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait never never, like like your whole time
Speaker 1: being together, it's never gotten brought up.
Speaker 3: I'll hear about some shit here and there, Like I'll
Speaker 3: hear about, Oh, my mom said something to my sister
Speaker 3: about it, and like asked her a question about, like, oh,
Speaker 3: why is Adam on the cover of this you know website?
Speaker 3: Or like why did why did the New York Post
Speaker 3: post about Adam buying a Lamborghini.
Speaker 2: Which is not not real? You know, a lot of
Speaker 2: even my.
Speaker 3: Close friends thought that there were like A few people
Speaker 3: have come over my house and been like, where do
Speaker 3: you keep the Lamborghini. I'm like, oh, yeah, that video.
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't gonna say that because would hit me
Speaker 1: and you were like, hey man, you got some prop money?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I was going to give her like
Speaker 3: one hundred grand or two hundred grand at the same time,
Speaker 3: but I couldn't find any prop money. Yeah. But yeah, no,
Speaker 3: our families just don't mention it. They're just kind of
Speaker 3: too polite.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the elephant in the room a
Speaker 1: little like when you go over to the Armenia and
Speaker 1: get togethers. It doesn't get brought up at all.
Speaker 3: No wow, which is crazy, right, Like they just are
Speaker 3: too polite, which thank god, because I don't want to
Speaker 3: fuck talk about that shit with them, and that's all.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna one word answer the fuck out of them.
Speaker 3: If they did try to bring it up to me
Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm just gonna laugh and roll with it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so there really hasn't been anything too like,
Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously you guys, I mean you've always
Speaker 1: been kind of famous, like in the last seven years,
Speaker 1: eight years, right, it's been, but twenty fifteen sixteen when
Speaker 1: you really started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I started No Jumber in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 3: and even before that, I had like ten years of
Speaker 3: being this very prominent BMX personality which kind of like
Speaker 3: allowed me to get used.
Speaker 1: So it's safe to say, like six straight years you've
Speaker 1: been kind of like a thing on the you know where,
Speaker 1: like my kid knows who you are, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like look like it.
Speaker 1: But I would say now it's different, right.
Speaker 3: Definitely feels like we hit like a different level of that.
Speaker 3: And even today we announced that we're doing this thing
Speaker 3: that's like a YouTube slash only fans live stream where
Speaker 3: basically we're going to do a big ten person podcast
Speaker 3: with a bunch of porn stars, and then the other
Speaker 3: room we have an OnlyFans live stream going at the
Speaker 3: same time. So it's basically gonna be like an orgy
Speaker 3: with a big group of people.
Speaker 1: And they're just swapping.
Speaker 3: Kind of going back and forth in and out and
Speaker 3: like the comments, like like, it just feels like there's
Speaker 3: so much more attention on everything that we do porn
Speaker 3: wise now, but at the same time, we also just
Speaker 3: have this massive wave of hate with everything we do too.
Speaker 3: But like on Twitter or TikTok, getting comments and getting
Speaker 3: hate is like one of the biggest things that makes
Speaker 3: your shit viral get promoted. So like, I have random
Speaker 3: condomic clips on my TikTok now that have like three
Speaker 3: million views just because like a couple of thousands the
Speaker 3: people stopped in to say like, haha, you're a cook
Speaker 3: or you know, you're a piece of shit, or you're
Speaker 3: a terrible parent or whatever. And I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: if all I have to deal with is this, and
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna make everything I do go viral, Okay.
Speaker 1: There are certain things that are like, can you explain
Speaker 1: to me some of the unwritten rules or code of
Speaker 1: the porn game, because you would share some information that
Speaker 1: we won't talk about off camera the last time I
Speaker 1: saw you, uh huh, some details about your video or
Speaker 1: Lenna's video rather with Jason Love that we won't talk about.
Speaker 1: But there is a code, right like, and I think
Speaker 1: you said that Jason Love maybe broke the code a little.
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody has ever explicitly told me that there's
Speaker 3: a code, but I definitely feel like there's an expectation
Speaker 3: that you keep it a little bit gangster in terms
Speaker 3: of the whole porn thing, because if you're on set,
Speaker 3: you're gonna see.
Speaker 2: A lot of weird shit.
Speaker 3: You know, you're gonna see dudes having to jerk their
Speaker 3: dick off for forty five minutes to get hard. You're
Speaker 3: gonna see guys having a pop eye aggress to get hard.
Speaker 3: You're going to see, you know, girls who are there
Speaker 3: on their period so they have to go and like
Speaker 3: shove some fucking sponge thing in there and to clean
Speaker 3: out whatever kind of stuff might be in there. There's
Speaker 3: all kinds of shit. And like, I realized this because I,
Speaker 3: like the one time I did an anal threesome with
Speaker 3: Riley Reed and my girl back in the day in
Speaker 3: our backyard, which is kind of hard to imagine now.
Speaker 3: We probably wouldn't do that these days since we have
Speaker 3: like a family and everything. But you know, there was
Speaker 3: some some leakage, some shit flying. You know, it's happened,
Speaker 3: and you know I had a turd on my knee
Speaker 3: at one point. Stuff. And then I went on the
Speaker 3: podcast that week and I just talked about it, and
Speaker 3: my girl had to tell me, like, yo, like, I
Speaker 3: don't think girls are going to necessarily want to do
Speaker 3: anal threesomes with us, if you're just going to be
Speaker 3: airing out the grossest things that happened, And I was like,
Speaker 3: that is a really good point. And so anything like
Speaker 3: messy that happens on set, I feel like it's kind
Speaker 3: of our responsibility to not talk about it.
Speaker 2: If a dude can't get hard, it's like we're.
Speaker 3: Not going to clown them, We're just going to kind
Speaker 3: of ignore it. To me, also, probably within the porn
Speaker 3: guy's code should be like you don't like, you know,
Speaker 3: especially if a fucking well known dude like me is
Speaker 3: going to let you fuck their wife on camera for
Speaker 3: porn content, you should probably not be critical of him
Speaker 3: in any way, or.
Speaker 1: You might be respectful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't do this weird like dick
Speaker 3: comparison thing or whatever, even though obviously yeah, you have
Speaker 3: a huge hog. But it's like, you just don't need
Speaker 3: to say that. And I feel like, now if we
Speaker 3: shoot with any more guys, that will be very much
Speaker 3: a conversation is like, Okay, this is the this is
Speaker 3: the way that we can talk about this, and this
Speaker 3: is what we can and we need this, you know,
Speaker 3: to stay on the same page in terms of all this.
Speaker 3: But I feel like he he he got a lot
Speaker 3: of hate for maybe not beating it up right and
Speaker 3: that I guess he probably had never dealt with that before,
Speaker 3: so he was probably trying to compensate for that by clarifying.
Speaker 1: And like, on your end, you're probably like, thank you,
Speaker 1: I mean, thanks for not like, yeah, I've seen like
Speaker 1: some of these fucking scenes this guy's and he's fucking
Speaker 1: you know, And I thought about that.
Speaker 3: After, like, oh wow, Like I kind of got off
Speaker 3: easy there because you know, I didn't really think about
Speaker 3: what kind of sex they were going to be having beforehand,
Speaker 3: and the scene that they did was very much like
Speaker 3: very you know, an easy entry point for me in
Speaker 3: the sense that it was not yeah, some Brian Gosling
Speaker 3: hot shot hot shot hookups or whatever the fuck that is.
Speaker 3: It's just like the most aggressive type of porn obviously.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I guess he did kind of
Speaker 3: do me a favor in that Regred.
Speaker 1: Shout out to h Is he gonna come on the podcast?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
Speaker 3: I heard he like flew to Toronto to do six Buzz,
Speaker 3: So who knows what they're gonna ask.
Speaker 1: Him, he's just he's just he's he's he probably this
Speaker 1: probably raised his profile to like a I mean, he
Speaker 1: was already a pretty popular guy, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But the weird thing and porn is like you
Speaker 3: could be really popular and porn and then you're still
Speaker 3: kind of like a regular person to most people.
Speaker 1: Right, especially if you're a dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, especially if you're a dude. And even like
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I think about that, like I can't
Speaker 3: get a little baby interview, I can't get a car
Speaker 3: interview or UZI vert interview, but it's no problem for
Speaker 3: me to get a Savannah Bond piece of content or
Speaker 3: Angela White or all these like super huge girls are
Speaker 3: much more approachable and like, you know, humble than the
Speaker 3: top rappers.
Speaker 1: You know what, what is the like expectation now moving forward,
Speaker 1: is this, are you guys gonna make her doing the
Speaker 1: dude seeing a regular thing.
Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna do more of it, But I would say,
Speaker 3: like the frequency is probably the thing that's kind of
Speaker 3: up for debate that we're still kind of figuring out.
Speaker 3: And like, you know, there's some stuff that I really
Speaker 3: don't mind at all, Like like I probably would have
Speaker 3: been real nervous about it before, but like me fucking
Speaker 3: her with another guy, I don't really like feel any
Speaker 3: type of way about that anymore, Like that's no problem,
Speaker 3: Like I would definitely do that.
Speaker 1: Would you do the would you do the DP?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I feel like that's on the bucket list.
Speaker 1: But then that's like a dick.
Speaker 3: On dick Yeah, And you know it's like, I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna fuck a dude keV don't.
Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't want you to fuck it.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do the DP, there's no way
Speaker 1: that your guys dicks don't touch or ball slap or
Speaker 1: just you're crossing swords.
Speaker 2: I gotta do it one time before I die, Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Mean you gotta do I mean, obviously you're married, so
Speaker 1: it's gotta be.
Speaker 3: On leg bumps another dude's leg. It's like whatever we
Speaker 3: all been in the gym locker room before or whatever.
Speaker 3: But also like I don't know, like it's got to
Speaker 3: be a homie. I think it's got to be something
Speaker 3: I'm like real cool with.
Speaker 1: Would you ever do anything with the trans porn star?
Speaker 1: Even if it was like fucking your wife with a
Speaker 1: trans porn star?
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I want to turn our sex
Speaker 3: life into a culture war thing, you know, probably just
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like prove my wokeness or anything.
Speaker 3: And I fuck with a lot of trans women and stuff,
Speaker 3: like I have had a lot of them on the podcast.
Speaker 3: I had m ros on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I think I saw a little bit of the you
Speaker 1: guys did like a panel, right, it was like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I got to meet a lot
Speaker 3: of really cool trans people in that situation and everything.
Speaker 3: But my whole thing is like I'm not really trying
Speaker 3: to do anything on camera for money that I wouldn't
Speaker 3: want to do it really in my private life as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so like I don't you know, and even like I'll
Speaker 3: like I'm not personally really like mega attracted to a
Speaker 3: BBW that's like four hundred pounds. Would I maybe do
Speaker 3: it on camera? Like maybe, yeah, like that doesn't so bad.
Speaker 1: Would you pop a blue chew?
Speaker 3: I might have to pop something I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: my Papa Energy drink, my popa C four.
Speaker 1: Let's not give them any free fucking publicity here, right,
Speaker 1: That's why I have their logo turned away from this
Speaker 1: guy's over here. Got the Celsius on the floor. Man,
Speaker 1: we're over here drinking fucking energy drinks like a couple
Speaker 1: of real white guys, like a.
Speaker 3: Couple of real Arizona and New Hampshire white boys.
Speaker 1: Right, oh shit, now, you know. The one thing I
Speaker 1: would say is like I've you know, I have for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. I think people think we're like a lot,
Speaker 1: like we're cool. Like I think me and you are cool.
Speaker 1: I think we're friends, you know. Like, but I have
Speaker 1: so many people in my life life that came to
Speaker 1: me like I'm like your representative and they're like, yo, son,
Speaker 1: what's up? But your boy? And I'm like, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this guy's a professional porn star
Speaker 1: who's fucked however, many hundreds of women since he's been
Speaker 1: in his relationship. To me, it's not that big of
Speaker 1: a deal, right that she gets won.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is weird because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I have fucked all these chicks with her, and nobody
Speaker 3: really like ever made a big deal about it, like
Speaker 3: you know, and.
Speaker 1: It's a double standard thing. And it's also kind of
Speaker 1: because we're like we're in hip hop culture, and I
Speaker 1: think that's where it kind of like people are like yeo,
Speaker 1: like bro.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I expected like hip hop to have
Speaker 3: strong opinions about it, but I didn't really expect there
Speaker 3: to be like twenty Barstool articles and you know.
Speaker 1: To have like Andrew Tate, Logan Paul all.
Speaker 3: These people like discussing it in depth on their podcast
Speaker 3: and shit, you know, I didn't expect to have everyone
Speaker 3: in the whole world having conversations about it, which surprised me.
Speaker 1: There was I want to say, I saw an old
Speaker 1: interview clip. It might have been when you were on Flagrant.
Speaker 1: Were you pretty much I could be You're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I shut the door on it.
Speaker 1: You pretty much shut the door hard on Like what changed?
Speaker 3: Which is weird because maybe a year before that, I
Speaker 3: remember I went on Academics' podcast and he asked if
Speaker 3: I would ever do a threughsome with another dude and
Speaker 3: my girl, and I basically like left the door open
Speaker 3: for it and was just kind of like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: I would be open to it, like I would be
Speaker 3: interested in it. I didn't say that I was going
Speaker 3: to do it, but I said I'd be open to
Speaker 3: the idea. And I remember, even at that time, just
Speaker 3: me suggesting that I would maybe be down for it
Speaker 3: was so viral and such a big thing, and academics
Speaker 3: freaked out and could not believe that I was acknowledging it.
Speaker 3: And even though I'm glad there was a clip I saw,
Speaker 3: like because I talk on interviews so much that I
Speaker 3: forget what I say, but I'm glad I said the
Speaker 3: same thing. I said, like I would consider it, you know,
Speaker 3: And so yeah, like the clip went viral, tho it
Speaker 3: was me saying that I definitely wouldn't do it, which
Speaker 3: is pretty funny, but uh yeah, I mean what changed
Speaker 3: is basically just me getting a little bit more open
Speaker 3: minded as time went by, and like, you know, me
Speaker 3: and her talked about like swinging off camera and like
Speaker 3: hooking up with like a different couple together or something
Speaker 3: like that. Take a Friday night, go out on the town,
Speaker 3: get a hotel room, something like that maybe. But then
Speaker 3: we were like, well, if we're ever going to do that,
Speaker 3: like we probably should film.
Speaker 2: It, and if we're gonna we should make some money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should probably like make your first scene with
Speaker 3: another guy, like a big blowout thing.
Speaker 1: Paul's The swinging world is crazy. My cousin and his
Speaker 1: ex wife were swingers when I was growing up, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'd be at his house and this shit would
Speaker 1: just be going down. Bro. I'd be like fourteen to
Speaker 1: fifteen with all my homies from school and we'd be
Speaker 1: watching his wife fucking chopped down on another Chick'd.
Speaker 2: Be watching it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeaheah, fourteen, He'd literally my cousin literally be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, go outside and just I'll leave the do
Speaker 1: I'll leave the window cracked. Wow. Shout out to James,
Speaker 1: James crazy.
Speaker 3: I feel like you have a duty if you're living
Speaker 3: that lifestyle to not have fourteen year olds around.
Speaker 1: Well, it was yeah, yeah. My cousin James was like
Speaker 1: I think he was like twenty one at the time,
Speaker 1: so it was we were like more friends than like
Speaker 1: he was like my og, but they were they were
Speaker 1: they'd go to these like retreats and they would go
Speaker 1: to these resorts and like, yeah, it's like a thing, bro.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, because Zumy sent me a link to
Speaker 3: a book about polyamorous relationships that because I've never read
Speaker 3: about it or researched it or even really thought about it,
Speaker 3: because me and my girl are not polly in that sense,
Speaker 3: Like we just do porn with other people.
Speaker 1: We've do it for content.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like you know, we haven't hooked up
Speaker 3: with another girl off camera in probably like three four
Speaker 3: years at this point, so it's definitely like not something
Speaker 3: I'm super familiar with.
Speaker 2: We've just been doing it for content.
Speaker 3: But you know, even like my girl yesterday, like we
Speaker 3: were on the Jason Lee podcast and she just kind
Speaker 3: of said like, yeah, you know, if you were on
Speaker 3: a trip and you ended up fucking some girl, as
Speaker 3: long as you told me, like or as long as
Speaker 3: you were safe about it, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think I would really care that much. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 2: Like you're you're progressive.
Speaker 3: Your mind is changing a bit, because I remember when
Speaker 3: me and her first guy in the relationship, she made
Speaker 3: it very clear like you're on tour, you're on the
Speaker 3: like if you're on the road, yeah around, but yeah,
Speaker 3: she was like, I'm not really fucking with that anymore.
Speaker 3: Like I could get away with it for the first
Speaker 3: year or two of our relationship, but then at some
Speaker 3: point she's like, I'm not fucking with that. I'm going
Speaker 3: to leave you if you just fuck some cheating right,
Speaker 3: like it's actual cheating, you know. But like apparently she's
Speaker 3: kind of softened up on that a bit, although I
Speaker 3: don't really trust these hose enough to even do that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a hotel room alone
Speaker 2: with a girl.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be on fucking read it with your
Speaker 1: ass out.
Speaker 3: I don't trust these bitches at all, not even that
Speaker 3: this is gonna lie and I say that I did something,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially with you bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I like doing content with her because then
Speaker 3: I have a guardian who's actually like observing it, and
Speaker 3: nobody's able to ever. And that's why even if I
Speaker 3: was going to shoot form with just me and another girl,
Speaker 3: I would definitely have like a real filmer, so at
Speaker 3: least I could have you have a witness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned earlier that, like there was a certain
Speaker 1: point in time where you said, Uzzi, Cardi, you're not
Speaker 1: getting these interviews. I remember the really nobody is but
Speaker 1: you're right right, Yeah, that's that's a fair point. Like
Speaker 1: big Boy probably to get Cardi. B oh, I meant
Speaker 1: Playboy Cardi, but yeah, oh Cardi, Well yeah, you never
Speaker 1: did Playboy Cardi ever.
Speaker 3: He came to the studio and stuff when we were
Speaker 3: still downtown, and like I remember I even had a
Speaker 3: conversation with him at a concert and or a show
Speaker 3: rather in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, where I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: let's do this interview, and I remember he was like,
Speaker 3: I ain't trying to do no long shit. I'll do
Speaker 3: a twenty minute joint.
Speaker 1: I did like a twenty minute interview with him at
Speaker 1: the radio station. It was horrible.
Speaker 3: It was hard, tell you too.
Speaker 1: It was like talking to like a piece of drywalls.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: If you watch that Big Boy interview he did, it
Speaker 2: is fucking the worst thing ever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, like it's always weird with shit
Speaker 3: like that, where it's like, fuck, if I had just
Speaker 3: tried a little bit harder, I could have a Playboy
Speaker 3: Cardi interview from twenty sixteen. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: But I probably have like fucking thirty million views or something.
Speaker 3: I probably did, like you know, a million other interviews
Speaker 3: that were easier to get instead of working on that one.
Speaker 1: That was like I was gonna say, like, obviously, you
Speaker 1: have a huge platform. You still have a very important platform,
Speaker 1: but there was an era in which your platform was
Speaker 1: literally you had a fucking record deal. Your platform was
Speaker 1: like a career maker for up and coming artists.
Speaker 3: Because in like twenty sixteen, there were so few options
Speaker 3: for an artist. Like the perfect example of it is
Speaker 3: six ' nine, Like I met six nine and twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen or some shit, and then he proceeded to harass
Speaker 3: the fuck out of me for like six months or
Speaker 3: eight months or some shit, trying to get an interview,
Speaker 3: and then finally he did the song with Trippy, which
Speaker 3: I felt was like, oh, okay, he's actually becoming a
Speaker 3: real thing.
Speaker 2: So I did the interview with him.
Speaker 1: But that was his first like song that really like actually.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I remember I showed that to hell
Speaker 3: Rel and he wasn't feeling it at the time. But
Speaker 3: you know, six x nine had to go to somebody
Speaker 3: like me to try to get an interview, whereas like
Speaker 3: even right now in New York, I can think of
Speaker 3: like eight different platforms that he could go fuck with
Speaker 3: if you're on the radar, yeah yeah, it's like there's
Speaker 3: so many different people that you could fuck with, Whereas now,
Speaker 3: like if I get a lot of hate for like, oh,
Speaker 3: you changed your shit up and didn't just keep doing
Speaker 3: underground artists interviews. What I think people don't realize is
Speaker 3: that No Jumper as a business would never have lasted
Speaker 3: in the long run if I just kept doing only
Speaker 3: underground wrapper interviews, like building out casts and hosts and
Speaker 3: expanding into doing interviews with comedians and YouTubers and porn
Speaker 3: stars and whoever. Like I needed to do all that
Speaker 3: shit in order to like keep the boat afloat, you know,
Speaker 3: because the media space just became so flooded so fast,
Speaker 3: and even especially now where everybody wants to get paid
Speaker 3: for interviews and shit. I mean, like like in terms
Speaker 3: of like really ambitious ones.
Speaker 1: No, for sure, I'm not sure how bandman Kevo try
Speaker 1: to crack me for like ten grand and I laughed.
Speaker 1: I literally said, loll I'll pass.
Speaker 3: So what that is amazing? Yeah, I know I get
Speaker 3: hit with that all the time. But people want five
Speaker 3: or ten grand who are like have no business asking
Speaker 3: for money, and I'm just like, wow, the game is fucked.
Speaker 1: But I was going to say, like, because like you said,
Speaker 1: like you did, I mean, obviously everyone should evolve, and
Speaker 1: the business model for you as evolved. But I remember,
Speaker 1: like even talking to like you'll go back to that
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen era of No Jumper. I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Sasha, who I think you would were talking
Speaker 1: to a certain point time, maybe doing a No Jumper festival.
Speaker 1: You had the single you were you were so dived
Speaker 1: in on the music. Do you remember was there like
Speaker 1: a point in time or a moment that you can
Speaker 1: kind of point to where you were like, I gotta
Speaker 1: be more than this if this is gonna really last.
Speaker 3: I guess I've just always been like doing everything I
Speaker 3: could possibly do to try to keep the brand going
Speaker 3: and keep the brand afloat and keep content going, and
Speaker 3: just figuring out how I could make content on a
Speaker 3: regular basis that would do well with the audience and stuff.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean definitely me getting canceled in
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen was probably the biggest factor in terms of like, oh,
Speaker 3: now you have some percentage of artists that are not
Speaker 3: going to want to fuck with you because they're on
Speaker 3: some woke.
Speaker 1: Because they have this perception of whatever happen because that's
Speaker 1: when you lost your deal with Atlantic.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, And they even like, you know, the it
Speaker 3: might not be them, but like they got a manager
Speaker 3: and this manager is trying to scare them out of
Speaker 3: working with us because of the fact that I've got
Speaker 3: my own bullshit or whatever. So I think that was
Speaker 3: definitely one moment where it became like, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to really figure this shit out, because maybe your
Speaker 3: initial game plan is not it's like a little simple.
Speaker 2: It's not going to work.
Speaker 3: Out necessarily if you just stay focused on just talking
Speaker 3: to these underground rappers, you know. And I always just
Speaker 3: I always was ambitious in the sense of just wanting
Speaker 3: to talk to everybody. And sometimes I do go back
Speaker 3: in time and think like, well, what if I had
Speaker 3: just interviewed the cool up and coming wrappers and I
Speaker 3: had just kept my shit super selective. I think the
Speaker 3: brand in terms of its coolness might have persevered, like
Speaker 3: it would have seemed cooler, like more of a of
Speaker 3: an honor, more exclusive. But at the same time, I
Speaker 3: just felt like all of these competitors springing up all
Speaker 3: around us, and it was like, I just am not
Speaker 3: gonna be able to just do this underground rapper thing forever,
Speaker 3: because even back in twenty eighteen, I could feel that
Speaker 3: it was slowing down pretty dramatically in the sense of
Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, there was a
Speaker 3: new underground rapper every fucking day.
Speaker 1: It was also like an era of SoundCloud and underground
Speaker 1: music that was like not being represented I guess as
Speaker 1: to where, and like the ig blogs hadn't really tooken
Speaker 1: all the way over.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean now, it's just there's just so
Speaker 3: much shit. It's tough to stand out. And like a
Speaker 3: lot of the best content that I do now is
Speaker 3: just bringing interesting personalities together, whether it's like the consistent
Speaker 3: personalities on the channel or you know, like yesterday I
Speaker 3: had a destiny the Twitch streamers Dude and Whack one hundred,
Speaker 3: Like who.
Speaker 1: Would have thought them to whatever sit down?
Speaker 3: So I would say, like I was so happy. I
Speaker 3: was just geeked up off that, just like I cannot
Speaker 3: believe that I has brought these two motherfuckers together. And
Speaker 3: you know, I'm always just kind of trying to think
Speaker 3: of stuff that'll be interesting for people like that, because
Speaker 3: you just don't have a new Trippy Red or a
Speaker 3: new little Uzi or a new ex to talk to
Speaker 3: every week. You might get a couple of those a year,
Speaker 3: but it just doesn't you know, they just don't happen
Speaker 3: that often.
Speaker 1: That's crazy because if you think of like I think
Speaker 1: it's somebody like your early relationships with guys, like ex
Speaker 1: with Juice WRLD you know, when Juice Wrar was alive
Speaker 1: obviously legend. Has there been any of those relationships that
Speaker 1: you carried into twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: where you're like, maybe this person switched up a little,
Speaker 1: Like I can't get this person on my platform even
Speaker 1: though I was there with them at the studio or
Speaker 1: going on it, you know all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I hear I talk about that all the time,
Speaker 3: how he was the first person who Amigo's interview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like it's different though. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's different though, because I feel like you actually,
Speaker 1: like we were with these guys, like I remember seeing
Speaker 1: your vlogs or you'd be at shows like you actually
Speaker 1: were like hanging out doing drugs with guys.
Speaker 3: But like all the dudes early on that I had
Speaker 3: these strong relationships.
Speaker 2: With, they're dead pretty much.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say they most of them passed away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And even by the time you get to twenty
Speaker 3: eighteen or twenty nineteen, I think of like, oh, I
Speaker 3: did Jack Harlow interview when he wasn't really on, and
Speaker 3: that I assume has a lot of views, and it's
Speaker 3: like pretty sick that I got a Jack Carlow interview
Speaker 3: early on. But it's also like I hung out with
Speaker 3: Jack Harlow for five minutes before we did the interview,
Speaker 3: and then we did the interview, and then I hung
Speaker 3: out with them for five minutes afterwards, and then I
Speaker 3: never saw him again after that. I just I don't
Speaker 3: build these crazy strong friendships with the artists in the
Speaker 3: way that I used to, which sometimes I look at
Speaker 3: people like you, who I feel like, you do really
Speaker 3: good with the relationship side of things because you're in
Speaker 3: the clubs and you're booking these dudes, and you with
Speaker 3: the radio is a really good way to like maintain
Speaker 3: these relationships and stuff. And a lot of the people
Speaker 3: that I look at that I kind of have regrets.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, how did I get a Suicide Boys.
Speaker 3: Interview with millions and millions of views and then I
Speaker 3: never went out of my way to hang out with
Speaker 3: them ever again after that, even though I got this
Speaker 3: crazy piece of content super early in their career, and
Speaker 3: it's really be because I was just focused on the
Speaker 3: next thing, and like, you know, sometimes I regret that
Speaker 3: I didn't do more to like nurture relationships. But also
Speaker 3: it just feels like there's so many potential relationships because
Speaker 3: of the fact that I just interviewed so many fucking
Speaker 3: people and I'm so busy that you know, That's one
Speaker 3: thing I miss about the stores that I would just
Speaker 3: have a lot more like casual interactions with people and
Speaker 3: it was just kind of happening all around me, whereas
Speaker 3: now it's like I really kind of rely on my
Speaker 3: publicist or dming people to get content going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're because you're also not like going out like
Speaker 1: you used.
Speaker 3: To at all.
Speaker 2: I haven't been out like I used to see.
Speaker 1: I used to see you and your girl shit all
Speaker 1: the time, concerts, fucking festivals, whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Guys, Like Saturday, I have a premiere for my BMX brand.
Speaker 3: We have a BMXTVD coming out, and I know I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have to be out of the house until like
Speaker 3: at least eleven, and I'm trying to like steal myself
Speaker 3: in preparation for that, because being out of the house
Speaker 3: until eleven just sounds kind of fucking crazy to me.
Speaker 2: At this point in my life.
Speaker 3: I just yeah, But then at the same time, I'm
Speaker 3: talking to Jason Lee yesterday, and I'm realizing this motherfucker
Speaker 3: has great relationships because he's still in the club and
Speaker 3: he's he's still out here. He's into his forties, but
Speaker 3: he's still like finessing those relationships on a nightly basis,
Speaker 3: which is something that I have completely neglected and I
Speaker 3: should really probably do more of it.
Speaker 1: I've just come to the point in my life where
Speaker 1: any relationships I already have, I try to water them,
Speaker 1: you know, like plants. And I'm not interested in going
Speaker 1: out anymore. So if I don't, unless it's somebody who
Speaker 1: I really fuck with, you know, or like someone who
Speaker 1: like I'm a fan of, you know, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care if it's an album release party, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm tired twenty sixteen, Like.
Speaker 1: There was an album release party last night that I
Speaker 1: would have went to if I had known, but I
Speaker 1: got hit up last minute, like be A be as
Speaker 1: a homegirl, Like she's cool, right, I fuck with Bea,
Speaker 1: But I was already at the crib. My wife just cooked.
Speaker 1: I'm like already planned a bike ride exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, damn, and especially with the kid
Speaker 3: think because it was like my kids waking me up.
Speaker 3: I got six in the morning. Yeah, my kids waking
Speaker 3: me up at six in the morning. And it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter if I go to bed at four in the morning, or.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter you're getting up at six, you get nut.
Speaker 3: And it's like, and especially like I have a wife.
Speaker 3: She she will take on all of that responsibility of
Speaker 3: taking care of the kids and everything. But I don't
Speaker 3: feel like that's fair for me to just put everything
Speaker 3: on her and be like, no, I'm sleeping a couple
Speaker 3: hours later, just so that I can, like, you know,
Speaker 3: recover from the fact that I had a fun night
Speaker 3: last night. Because like twenty sixteen, if it was a
Speaker 3: Friday night, this was the era of like underground warehouse
Speaker 3: shows in LA and stuff, and there would be like
Speaker 3: some random fucking soldier boys show in a warehouse and
Speaker 3: like the ham on Everything era, and I would go
Speaker 3: and I would see people I knew, and I would
Speaker 3: stand around and smoke weed and drink and probably snort
Speaker 3: cooke and do whatever and just meet people and just
Speaker 3: like do this little like friend collecting thing that you're
Speaker 3: doing at a certain point in your life of just
Speaker 3: meeting nice to.
Speaker 1: See you everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I respect that, and there's a certain point
Speaker 3: in your career where you have to do that. But
Speaker 3: also like as soon as I had a kid, it
Speaker 3: was just like, what the fuck am I doing?
Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on on the whole entire Drake
Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson thing and people saying that Elliott is above
Speaker 1: doing running gun interviews at Rolling Loud.
Speaker 3: You know, I wrestled with that too, because for a
Speaker 3: long time I would go to Rolling Loud and I
Speaker 3: would be doing the thing of standing around and waiting
Speaker 3: to get interviews and just trying to you know, finesse
Speaker 3: get content. Yeah, and like you know, if you if
Speaker 3: you get a five minute conversation with Gunna, you just
Speaker 3: made your whole trip, you know, Like I went.
Speaker 1: To you did a Young Thug one at one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the best one that I ever did.
Speaker 3: And then that's that kind of killed it for me
Speaker 3: after that, because that was twenty nineteen and I go
Speaker 3: to Wireless Festival in London and I get like a
Speaker 3: twenty minute Young Thug interview, I get like a really
Speaker 3: dope Juice World vlog, I get Denzel Curry. This is
Speaker 3: all like in the same day that we just made
Speaker 3: like a bunch of fire pieces of content.
Speaker 1: Crazy crazy Day.
Speaker 3: Crazy Day. And it was all because it's in England.
Speaker 3: So they're not like super they're.
Speaker 1: Not getting pulled in every direction by their homies.
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of media and it's not super
Speaker 3: formal in the sense that like even Young Thug has
Speaker 3: a little less like you know, like the big as
Speaker 3: big as, like this table and like the area surrounding it. Right,
Speaker 3: he's just chilling like he doesn't have a lot him.
Speaker 1: Him there as opposed to him doing rolling out in
Speaker 1: la is a lot different in terms of the backstage environment.
Speaker 1: Who's around him. He's got friends, he's got this you know.
Speaker 3: I remember I went to some random festival in Santa
Speaker 3: Ana like right after that London one.
Speaker 1: Was it the day and night one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was just infinitely less likely that I
Speaker 3: was going to get any good content at that, you know.
Speaker 3: And like for somebody like Elliott, it's like you probably
Speaker 3: remember two thousand and two, he was like the god
Speaker 3: of hip hop media because he was the editor of
Speaker 3: Double Xcel and he basically destroyed the source and he
Speaker 3: was clicked up with June and Eminem and all this shit.
Speaker 3: I still to this day. Look at Elliott I was
Speaker 3: like just a massive inspiration in terms of showing me
Speaker 3: how it could be done. But I googled it the
Speaker 3: other day. I think he's like fifty two or some shit.
Speaker 3: So it is a question of, like, does there come
Speaker 3: a time where you're a little bit too old or
Speaker 3: a little bit too established to be doing the running
Speaker 3: gun interviews backstage at Rolling Loud. I mean, I hope
Speaker 3: when I'm fifty two that I wouldn't even consider it,
Speaker 3: to be totally honest, I'm thirty nine now, I could
Speaker 3: still see myself doing it, but I also don't at all,
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, like in a perfect world, yeah,
Speaker 3: Elliot Wilson would be like jay Z, like where he's
Speaker 3: just able to like be this content god and not
Speaker 3: have to be in the trenches with the people.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you want to be
Speaker 2: in the trenches.
Speaker 3: With the people, right, Like there is an extent to
Speaker 3: which that's what's going to keep you young and keep
Speaker 3: you in people's minds. But I don't really see myself
Speaker 3: doing that at fifty two. But also I don't I
Speaker 3: don't judge Elliott for it. I feel like he's still
Speaker 3: just kind of Yeah, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's like it's like an unfair
Speaker 1: judgment because I'm sure he got paid because he was
Speaker 1: doing official Rolling Loud. Shit, oh it was four rolling out,
Speaker 1: it was for Rolling Loud, So he definitely got a
Speaker 1: bag for it. Yeah, And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like everybody's trying to reinvent themselves, like Elliott is, he's
Speaker 1: kind of got to. I've noticed he started interviewing like
Speaker 1: a guy like Key Clock, which I'm not sure, like,
Speaker 1: you know, four years ago he would be interviewing Key Clock.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't watched a lot of Elliott's interviews
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 1: They're really good, Like but podcast it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Really Okay, So I watched Drake one a few years ago.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've seen any sense then, but like
Speaker 3: the Drake One was incredible, flawless, Like you actually asked
Speaker 3: him every single thing that I could imagine you asking him.
Speaker 1: They're very thorough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: Amazing to me, but I haven't really been super tuned in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for you are do you even like care to
Speaker 1: discover new music anymore? Like are you still like ear
Speaker 1: to the street type guy or if it comes across
Speaker 1: your periphials and you like it, you'll check it.
Speaker 3: It's weird because it's like the stuff that I like,
Speaker 3: which is like the street music, the drill music.
Speaker 2: Crazy shit, that stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm constantly finding out about new shit because I
Speaker 3: had a lot of people in my life that'll be
Speaker 3: like check out oh five to one, kiddo, check out
Speaker 3: Tay Savage, check out all this Chicago shit, or like
Speaker 3: listen to this new Bronx drill rapper or whatever. So
Speaker 3: that stuff it's super easy for me to stay on
Speaker 3: top of. You know you're talking about Bea. I know
Speaker 3: she's popular. I don't think i've ever heard her. I'm
Speaker 3: never gonna like go listen to an R and B
Speaker 3: artist or like a girl rapper or whatever. Realistically, Like
Speaker 3: it's just you don't like R and B. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: but you just got excited. Genuine followed you. Well, it's Genuine.
Speaker 1: So you listened to Genuine growing up? Are you more
Speaker 1: like a Genuine's the guy fill off stage? Well?
Speaker 3: Genuine like that that comes from the era of me
Speaker 3: going home from from school and watching TRL and like
Speaker 3: Genuine was on whatever they're playing, you're watching it, Like
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Backstreet Boys songs that I know
Speaker 3: every word to. Unfortunately that like I'm just never gonna
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna see a bunch of you.
Speaker 2: Know, who's's it?
Speaker 3: The K pop group BTS. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, yes single BTS. I love R and B.
Speaker 1: I'm R and B head, so I love R and B,
Speaker 1: but BTS I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: I keep thinking about because like the last couple of days,
Speaker 3: I've just been listening to like all of Dirk's albums
Speaker 3: and every single album. It's like I could kind of
Speaker 3: cut it in half and take all the soft ship.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you are you a big
Speaker 1: Dirk fan?
Speaker 2: I am a big Dirk fan.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, but if he's rapping about eyelashes and
Speaker 3: fucking you know, you wouldn't hear that, see whatever I
Speaker 3: do want to kill your ops, Like That's what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to hear, and I'm not proud of that. It's
Speaker 3: just like like the aggressive songs are always the songs
Speaker 3: that I like, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a pretty dope Dirk interview. What was
Speaker 1: that like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Eighteen, Yeah, which I didn't like.
Speaker 3: I knew it was a good interview to get, but
Speaker 3: it definitely didn't feel like he was going to be
Speaker 3: well I think big as he is now.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think Dirk had Like I think Dirk's
Speaker 1: got one of those careers that's like very unique because
Speaker 1: he was on def Jam forever he was and like
Speaker 1: he's evolved into something that I'm not sure I would
Speaker 1: have get. Like you said in twenty eighteen, if somebody
Speaker 1: would have told you he's like one of the biggest
Speaker 1: rappers in the world, you'd been like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't see it happening.
Speaker 3: But that happens all the time that there's like artists
Speaker 3: that I'll interview and I think they're just super whatever,
Speaker 3: or I think they're they're good, but like, oh, he's
Speaker 3: got like a little seed of potential. But if I
Speaker 3: was a betting man and you were like, I would
Speaker 3: want one hundred and one odds if I was going
Speaker 3: to bet one hundred bucks on him, you know which
Speaker 3: is But sometimes dudes just really go for it and
Speaker 3: really work their ass off or their their sound.
Speaker 2: That just takes people a while to catch up to
Speaker 2: their sound.
Speaker 1: You know, do you you know, because I remember very
Speaker 1: vividly you were waving the little Pump flag harder than
Speaker 1: any rapper. I think I've ever seen you wave a
Speaker 1: flag four At a certain point in time, I think
Speaker 1: I remember when you first went on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: You would on the Breakfast Club, you didn't ever No, well,
Speaker 1: there was an interview. Was it just you and Charlie Maine?
Speaker 3: I interviewed him at one point. Yeah, And I went
Speaker 3: on the Brilliant Idiots one time.
Speaker 1: It was Brilliant Idiots. It was Brilliant Idiots. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So when you went on Brilliant Idiots, I think I
Speaker 1: remember you kind of shitting on Rick Ross a little.
Speaker 3: I think they asked me what I thought of the
Speaker 3: new Rick Ross album.
Speaker 1: And you were like, I don't fucking care. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to a Little Pump or some shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's just real. Like there's just artists
Speaker 3: who I like, and then at a certain point, once
Speaker 3: they're on like album number eight, I'm just not well.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say there was like you were kind
Speaker 1: of like partially the face of like that SoundCloud era,
Speaker 1: and you were also very anti a lot of the
Speaker 1: other shit.
Speaker 3: I think I got a lot of the the a
Speaker 3: lot of that reputation for being like anti traditional hip
Speaker 3: hop just because of the fact that I was like
Speaker 3: the adult in the room when Little Pump and Smoke
Speaker 3: Purple chanting fuck J Cole, even though I don't think
Speaker 3: I ever I don't think I ever said fuck J Cole.
Speaker 3: You know, like I was not invested in it like that,
Speaker 3: And I've always been able to appreciate, you know, more
Speaker 3: traditional hip hop and everything. But yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: was just I was around the SoundCloud wave like before them.
Speaker 3: I was around all these like Sesesh Hollow Water Boys
Speaker 3: dudes and like all the GBC shit, and then I,
Speaker 3: you know, I met I met Little Pump at a
Speaker 3: show in Florida that like Ski Mask played and like
Speaker 3: a few other people, and yeah, we just hit it up,
Speaker 3: hit it off on some cool shit. We went on
Speaker 3: that tour together, and then I, you know, I went
Speaker 3: to a few of his shows after that and stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean sometimes when I think back on that,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're a grown ass man just really hanging
Speaker 3: out with like a sixteen year.
Speaker 1: Old you in like fast forward, you have gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of recent criticism for maybe that tour and like
Speaker 1: maybe some of the stuff that went down on the
Speaker 1: tour with Pump. Do you regret any of that tour
Speaker 1: or do you think any of that criticism is fair.
Speaker 3: I mean, we were just hanging out doing zams and like,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: That'sen in retrospect. A grown man doing Zan's with a
Speaker 1: child is kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was just like my little helmie at
Speaker 3: the time. I didn't I never thought of it like that,
Speaker 3: because that's for sure. I've been a BMX dude my
Speaker 3: whole life and I've been getting you know, smoking weed
Speaker 3: and drinking and hanging out of the skate park and
Speaker 3: all this shit, and I never had any like level
Speaker 3: of scrutiny of what I was doing. So it never
Speaker 3: really occurred to me. And it's not like I was
Speaker 3: like getting drugs for them. It's like, no, like they
Speaker 3: had drugs, and like sometimes Pump or Smoke Purp would
Speaker 3: like hand me a Xanax and or pour me some
Speaker 3: lean and I'm like, okay, sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what would be your thoughts on why you
Speaker 1: think those two guys did not live up to their
Speaker 1: potential and I guess quote unquote fell off because I
Speaker 1: mean it looked like Smoke Purp was with Travis and
Speaker 1: Pump was the biggest guy the fucking planet, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I mean a cart of me. You know, I
Speaker 3: got no ill will towards either of them. I still
Speaker 3: think that they both potentially, you know, have it in him,
Speaker 3: but I feel like everyone's one hit away, That's what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. And at a certain point, the little Pump
Speaker 3: thing was just so big that it's like they the
Speaker 3: people couldn't help but turn against him at a certain
Speaker 3: point once like they loved the meme, they loved the
Speaker 3: idea of him, they loved the hilarity of Pump, and
Speaker 3: then at a certain point they just turned away from
Speaker 3: him because maybe the music didn't evolve or keep changing
Speaker 3: or whatever. And I don't know. I mean, you see
Speaker 3: it happen with people all the time, Like happened to
Speaker 3: the baby. They're doing it to a little baby right now.
Speaker 1: But guess what, the baby caught a record and is
Speaker 1: kind of back a little.
Speaker 3: I don't doubt for a minute that the bigger record. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because he's a smart, older guy who really like has
Speaker 3: studied the music game for a long time. And that's
Speaker 3: why I don't count a Little Pump or purp out
Speaker 3: because I feel like all they need to do is
Speaker 3: just like come up with a sound, make a project
Speaker 3: that encompasses that sound, and all of a sudden, those
Speaker 3: same people that are hating on them will be like
Speaker 3: those same people that are always trying to catch a
Speaker 3: wave or like figure out something new or different to
Speaker 3: be into, will be like, actually, this Little Pump album's
Speaker 3: really good, and then that'll be the meme.
Speaker 1: And I mean, they just did it with Little YACHTI
Speaker 1: when he put out the fucking Tame and Paula type
Speaker 1: album exactly.
Speaker 3: Or but like, bro, you see the way that they're
Speaker 3: trying to take a little baby down right now because
Speaker 3: he put out a record. They hate the record, They
Speaker 3: hated his last album and whatever.
Speaker 1: And so, and then the tour days are getting canceled.
Speaker 3: And now they're looking for any little thing that they
Speaker 3: can use to put together the narrative that little baby
Speaker 3: is a loser, even though a little baby like probably
Speaker 3: literally has like you know, fifty million dollars or one
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars or some shit, like he's living a
Speaker 3: great life if anything, Like I saw Act posted a
Speaker 3: clip of like Baby making that song in the studio,
Speaker 3: and there's all these homies in the in the studio
Speaker 3: and they're all nod in their head and like acting
Speaker 3: like they're really into it. And then that song comes
Speaker 3: out and Twitter just immediately declares that the worst song ever.
Speaker 3: But that's what it's like to be a superstar, is
Speaker 3: that nobody wants to tell you that your shit sucks,
Speaker 3: and you just are running around the world picking up
Speaker 3: you know, fifty thousand dollars for a show, one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for a show, and then all of a
Speaker 3: sudden you put out a song and you just get
Speaker 3: this reality check that like, oh, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people that are not already decided on the fact that
Speaker 3: they love you, and they're gonna shit on you and
Speaker 3: they're gonna hate you, and you know, but somebody like
Speaker 3: a little baby, like I would say the same thing as.
Speaker 2: Pump and Purp, like he just baby, you'll be fine.
Speaker 2: He just got to refocus.
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Speaker 1: the interview. I was gonna say, you had a couple
Speaker 1: of you have in your store back in the day
Speaker 1: resulted in some cool shit. One obviously, I think the
Speaker 1: last hurrah was kind of a gun in my face. Well,
Speaker 1: I was going to say, when when X passed away
Speaker 1: and you guys pretty much shut.
Speaker 2: That was crazy.
Speaker 3: But then the thing that actually made us like basically
Speaker 3: leave the block was when I got the gun in
Speaker 3: my face.
Speaker 2: That seemed like that kind of like.
Speaker 3: Killed the vibe, and you know, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be there the same way I
Speaker 3: needed security around me whenever I was there. Everybody's got guns.
Speaker 3: Everybody's just like on a very different level because we
Speaker 3: were hanging out all the fucking time with no guns
Speaker 3: around for years there, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 3: one kid pulls up back and crazy, and that just
Speaker 3: kind of really changed the flavor of the block.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, like you had a
Speaker 1: dope interaction with j Cole where he just fell through
Speaker 1: randomly and shout.
Speaker 3: Out Sasha, who he just names. He's the one that
Speaker 3: basically line that up.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Sasha, good guy. And then I think
Speaker 1: about MGK came and came and bought a bike at
Speaker 1: your store?
Speaker 2: Did he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something to him and I talked about because
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I bought a bike from
Speaker 1: that store, really, And he said that's why he doesn't
Speaker 1: understand why, because I guess you were shitting on him.
Speaker 1: You guys have this like you guys had like a
Speaker 1: little fat.
Speaker 3: I never knew why he had an issue with me,
Speaker 3: aside for like the only things I could think.
Speaker 1: He probably said something that he's a sensitive guy. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you said something about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't like his rap, like all
Speaker 3: his rap records back in the day. I remember like
Speaker 3: he put a record out and I listened to it
Speaker 3: and I said it was garbage. And I never knew
Speaker 3: he bought a bike from me though.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because yeah, because him and I, because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really cool with with Kels, and we
Speaker 1: were talking and I was like, you know, Adam, like
Speaker 1: I can connect you Adam. He's a good ud be
Speaker 1: cause you know, I don't know if you remember I
Speaker 1: put you on the phone.
Speaker 3: Russ, Oh yeah you did, and I we had like
Speaker 3: a conversation that I always think about that because I
Speaker 3: had a.
Speaker 2: Conversation thinking that we were on air.
Speaker 1: We weren't.
Speaker 3: I know, I was having the conversation like I was
Speaker 3: trying to fil Yeah, but then I realized after, like, oh,
Speaker 3: that wasn't on air, Like not only people who know
Speaker 3: about that conversation are me, Russ, and keV, Whereas I
Speaker 3: was speaking as if I had the whole world.
Speaker 2: Listening to me.
Speaker 3: But damn, that's crazy that you had that conversation with
Speaker 3: MGK because I never gotten that.
Speaker 1: He told me. He was like, it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: actually went out of my way to make sure when
Speaker 1: I bought a bike, I bought it from his store,
Speaker 1: just to kind of keep the money within like the
Speaker 1: culture type shit.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody ever told me, like at the
Speaker 3: store that that happened.
Speaker 2: It's possible that.
Speaker 1: I know he said he bought a bike. He's like,
Speaker 1: I bought a bike from from his spot. I literally
Speaker 1: went out of my way to go buy the bike there.
Speaker 2: I'm sure told me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I look at all that, like, oh, why
Speaker 3: do I have problems with MGK? Like why why was
Speaker 3: he so mad at me? It's really just for me,
Speaker 3: like saying I didn't like his music at a certain point,
Speaker 3: or like making fun of him, And I mean, I
Speaker 3: really am not like a big fan of his music.
Speaker 3: But also like I'm sure me and him would get
Speaker 3: along all right, And like I remember somebody told me
Speaker 3: that he lives near me, and so I've had the
Speaker 3: thought multiple times when I'm doing Cardio, just walk around
Speaker 3: the neighborhood, just take it. Like imagine I just saw
Speaker 3: MGK and we just had to fight in the front yard.
Speaker 2: Like that would be crazy.
Speaker 3: Because like if he came up to me on some
Speaker 3: crazy shit, I guess I'm just gonna fight him, even
Speaker 3: though that's not normally an option for I'm not normally
Speaker 3: going to Like.
Speaker 1: I think both both of you guys are too rich
Speaker 1: for that to happen.
Speaker 3: I would think so as well. But I mean, you
Speaker 3: see him punch some guy at the fair the other day.
Speaker 3: I got nothing against him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean that was I think that was more.
Speaker 1: I mean his lady was nearby. I you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of hold your chick down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but somebody said some crazy shit to her, and
Speaker 3: then he had a security right there. For me, if
Speaker 3: somebody said something crazy about to my girl, I'm would
Speaker 3: be like security.
Speaker 1: Get them, like I'm paying you for a reason.
Speaker 3: But he's had security for so long.
Speaker 1: But he's a hot head, you know, like like I've
Speaker 1: seen Kelsey. You know, he's a good dude. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sure one day you'll have a conversation
Speaker 1: or you'll be jogging and he'll honk at you from
Speaker 1: a pink g wagon.
Speaker 2: I'm down or something like that. I would have a
Speaker 2: conversation with him.
Speaker 1: I would just say the fuck Russ Era obviously all
Speaker 1: that kind of that was that the only time you
Speaker 1: actually had an artist physically do harm to you or
Speaker 1: is there anything we never heard about?
Speaker 2: Well, the Russ didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: It was his guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just like at the nail salon around
Speaker 3: the corner from my store at the time, and I
Speaker 3: remember it was some kind of like goth boy click
Speaker 3: event or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: Jesus that sounds like an that sounds like a terrible.
Speaker 3: So basically, you have like a shitload of zanned out
Speaker 3: goth kids hanging out at the store, right, And so
Speaker 3: I dip off. At one point, I go around the
Speaker 3: corner to the to the nail salon and I'm getting
Speaker 3: my nails done, and I thought, oh, I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: my hood up and I'm gonna face away from the
Speaker 3: door so that nobody can tell it to me.
Speaker 2: Not a great idea. Didn't see these guys coming.
Speaker 3: And then I just hear at one point, I'm twenty
Speaker 3: two get punched on the side of the head, and
Speaker 3: I like fall down for a second, like I think
Speaker 3: you hit me, wait one more time, and then I
Speaker 3: jump up.
Speaker 2: And by the time I jump up there out.
Speaker 1: There and you didn't even realize it was connected to
Speaker 1: Russ until later, Right.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was connected till Russ until like
Speaker 3: a year later when Academics was on live stream with
Speaker 3: him and Russ said something like yeah that full audam
Speaker 3: twenty two got touched too, but like it was breaking
Speaker 3: up on the recording of the stream, but Act knew
Speaker 3: what he said, so Act told me, he goes, this
Speaker 3: is what Russ said, and immediately it clicks in my head, like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, the Nigerians, because Russ is always talking
Speaker 3: about his Nigerian homies and shit, and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, those guys weren't Nigerian. Like I got beat
Speaker 3: up by a couple of Nigerians that Russ sent through.
Speaker 3: And so then all of a sudden it made sense,
Speaker 3: and I remember I sat on it and thought about
Speaker 3: it for a couple of days, and then one day
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I might as well
Speaker 3: just use the shit for some clouds. So I just
Speaker 3: go on Twitter and start being like, hey fuck Russ, YadA,
Speaker 3: YadA YadA.
Speaker 1: And hey, I feel like, I feel like his campaign
Speaker 1: of beating up rappers that talk shit worked hurts because
Speaker 1: nobody says it no more, and I feel like people
Speaker 1: now are like, yo, maybe Russ was onto something when
Speaker 1: it came to being independent and like owning your masters
Speaker 1: and not getting fucked by labels.
Speaker 3: Right. I mean, what I will say is that Russ
Speaker 3: definitely like didn't do himself any favors around that time.
Speaker 3: He was just saying a bunch of wild ass shit
Speaker 3: and just kind of disrespecting a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, he had that T shirt that stands out.
Speaker 3: When he dissed all of the Atlanta Producers or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I remember Southside was going crazy on him, like
Speaker 3: he made a lot of weird decisions around that time.
Speaker 3: Now that Bean said I And the reason why I
Speaker 3: kind of let it go and just decided like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be cool with Russ when you initiated
Speaker 3: the conversation is because Russ brought it up to me
Speaker 3: that there was a lot of tweets that I didn't remember,
Speaker 3: probably because I was zanned the fuck out, just like
Speaker 3: his T shirt said, where I was basically like really
Speaker 3: roasting this motherfucker. And I don't do that now, Like
Speaker 3: I'm not going to just use like a rapper as
Speaker 3: a punchline, like in the way that I was doing
Speaker 3: there where I was really like treating him like he
Speaker 3: wasn't a human being, you know, which to me, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't approve of that or condone that.
Speaker 3: I feel like you should approach everybody as a person
Speaker 3: and you know, try to engage with the actual ideas
Speaker 3: that they're putting out there. Now, if I had had
Speaker 3: some angry tweets where I said, Russ doesn't know what
Speaker 3: the fuck he's talking about with these Atlanta producers are
Speaker 3: actually Xanax is the best? How dare you insult Xanax?
Speaker 3: Then that's fair, like that's having an opinion. But me
Speaker 3: just like clowning them and just treating them like a joke.
Speaker 3: I don't really condone that, so I have to even
Speaker 3: though obviously I don't condone you know, him sending people
Speaker 3: to beat my ass either, But I do respect that.
Speaker 3: You gotta respect the shooter.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day or the puncher. You
Speaker 1: can't dictate us. People react to disrespect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I shouldn't have been lacking anyway.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have been.
Speaker 3: Like it, because man, you imagine another version of that
Speaker 3: story where I pull out the thing and just and.
Speaker 1: Then you smoke two random dudes and you're like, and
Speaker 1: you find out a year later, and it's.
Speaker 3: Not gonna take a year. The cops are going to
Speaker 3: go through their phone and be like, oh shit, Russ
Speaker 3: sent these guys to do this, and then I mean
Speaker 3: that's the alternate, Like, realistically, that's how that story would
Speaker 3: probably play out today.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of thankful that I learned that lesson
Speaker 2: early on.
Speaker 1: How look, I think you and I were texting early
Speaker 1: on when the whole departure split of No Jumper happened,
Speaker 1: because I'm real, real tight with A and I've become
Speaker 1: cool with te Roll over the last year or so.
Speaker 1: But I remember just hitting you and being like, this
Speaker 1: was because I came on the show the day after
Speaker 1: you fired Lush okay, and I didn't really understand what
Speaker 1: I was walking into. I guess to the fully.
Speaker 2: Because I heard you say that on another show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you really didn't get what I.
Speaker 1: Didn't understand, like the whole gravity of what was happening, right, So, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was shit, But you that day was crazy because
Speaker 1: I remember coming out of the room because you had
Speaker 1: multiple content rooms and seeing the dude who went on
Speaker 1: the stream that same day and like tried to air
Speaker 1: you out for the old twenty eighteen shit, Like I
Speaker 1: saw him coming in really wow, Yeah that was the
Speaker 1: same day, so he was there, Like I remember seeing
Speaker 1: him come in, and then I think he walked over
Speaker 1: to the stream room and then me and you took
Speaker 1: a pick and then I left. I remember like it
Speaker 1: was later on that day or maybe it was it
Speaker 1: was I think, and I remember just being like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: but you were going through man, Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was wild.
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind and I remember hitting you like hey, Bro,
Speaker 1: like stay strong.
Speaker 3: But it is weird too because I feel like that
Speaker 3: would happen to me now and I wouldn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: But I mean, and get this, that wasn't very long ago, right,
Speaker 1: So like at the end of the day, like I've
Speaker 1: never really seen I mean, everybody is like, yo, it's
Speaker 1: over for this guy. We're we're not going on a show.
Speaker 1: He's a clown. Fucking he's a you know, fucking pedal
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. Like it was like all this shit
Speaker 1: just getting thrown at the fucking house at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how was your mental being and like what was the
Speaker 1: low for you just in terms of dealing with that.
Speaker 3: I mean, at that time, it was rough because it
Speaker 3: was like I just felt like, oh, I put years
Speaker 3: of hard work into like nurturing these guys as talent
Speaker 3: and then they just kind of like turn their back
Speaker 3: on me as soon as it's convenient for them. So
Speaker 3: that was kind of tough to accept. But then at
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, just having the Internet in
Speaker 3: general just attacking me, and even that was like one thing,
Speaker 3: but dude, like it seems so silly. But around that
Speaker 3: same time, there was a clip of me doing an
Speaker 3: interview with Sneako where we were like having this very
Speaker 3: sarcastic conversation about how disgusting vaginas are. Like really, anybody
Speaker 3: who knows me or him would be able to tell
Speaker 3: that it was a troll and ask conversation, and that
Speaker 3: when I was saying that, like, penises are so much
Speaker 3: better than vaginas. You just splash a little bit of
Speaker 3: puddle water on it and it's clean, whereas a vagina
Speaker 3: is an open boom. This is like a version of
Speaker 3: like a joke that I've basically like been telling like
Speaker 3: the whole life about how dicks are better than vaginas whatever.
Speaker 3: But like, oh my god, like thousands of porn chicks
Speaker 3: just using that clip as an opportunity to act as
Speaker 3: if I genuinely hate vaginas, and you know, it's just
Speaker 3: like a lot of that shit all at the same time.
Speaker 2: Just it kind of just.
Speaker 3: Unloaded on me, and it was really really hard for
Speaker 3: me at that time, and then I went on the
Speaker 3: honeymoon and I kind of like got my mind right
Speaker 3: while I was off doing that.
Speaker 1: Because all this is happening right before your wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, terrible timing, very very very stressful for my girl.
Speaker 3: Although then we go and do the wedding and it's.
Speaker 2: Like the perfect wedding.
Speaker 3: It was like so good, everything went so smoothly, and
Speaker 3: then it made me and her feel like, well, why
Speaker 3: the fuck were we so stressed out about the wedding
Speaker 3: and the lead up to all this, like on account
Speaker 3: of all that other shit?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Did you, like, I mean, are you like a therapy guy?
Speaker 3: I do. I had a therapist for like three years now,
Speaker 3: and I very much appreciate her, and she gives me
Speaker 3: a very nice space in which I can kind of
Speaker 3: air out everything that I'm going through emotionally. Sometimes it
Speaker 3: feels like my therapist. And I was like the one
Speaker 3: podcast I do a week that nobody ever gets to hear,
Speaker 3: you just like working through shit, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she definitely helped helped talk me through all
Speaker 2: that stuff.
Speaker 1: And at any point in time, you've already made your money,
Speaker 1: you're paid, you're doing well. Plug talks booming. At any
Speaker 1: point in time, did you consider just being like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't need to do this. This is
Speaker 1: worse for me than it's better for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like there was a time where.
Speaker 1: It felt like they're just watching you. It just felt
Speaker 1: like there was a time where you just were like
Speaker 1: just over the shit, right because like.
Speaker 3: That whole house Phone thing happened, and then that that
Speaker 3: was the thing that bothered me is I felt like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is a moment where it's pretty obvious that I
Speaker 3: need the guys who are hosts on the channel to
Speaker 3: have my back during this and like need them to
Speaker 3: help craft the narrative that things are just fine here.
Speaker 3: And instead I felt like I kind of got the opposite,
Speaker 3: where like a lot of the hosts on the channel
Speaker 3: were kind of like very much actively trying to make
Speaker 3: the situation between me and house Phone worse. And he
Speaker 3: gets that now because like me and Housemen have had
Speaker 3: a lot of conversations about it and everything, and like
Speaker 3: you know, he we've been talking all day. He's djaying
Speaker 3: a show that I'm doing on Saturday, and I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it just kind of made me realize like there was
Speaker 3: just like a really toxic element brewing within No Jumper
Speaker 3: at that time. And you know, I don't think that
Speaker 3: any of the hosts in particular are like really bad people.
Speaker 3: I think that they just kind of had voices in
Speaker 3: their ears that were probably concerned with their own financial
Speaker 3: situation more than like the actual long term careers of
Speaker 3: these guys, you know. So I think that there was
Speaker 3: just too much bullshit going on. And it's crazy because
Speaker 3: as soon as those guys left and then we have
Speaker 3: we still have a shitload a host on the channel,
Speaker 3: and like a lot of them have been really growing
Speaker 3: and stuff, and I have hosts who literally like cannot
Speaker 3: be in the same room. I cannot have Rick Baby
Speaker 3: or Whack one hundred or you know, I can't have
Speaker 3: Whack one hundred and Kritmak in the room at the
Speaker 3: same time. But still, like the vibe is way better
Speaker 3: than it was before. Feels like, as much as that
Speaker 3: shit kind of hurt going through those growing pains, exercising
Speaker 3: that drama element out of the business was like really
Speaker 3: important because at a certain point it was just a
Speaker 3: lot of people were like coming into No Jumper basically
Speaker 3: like sterring shit up and then going home to their
Speaker 3: streams and making tons of content about it, and that
Speaker 3: just became like the norm every day. And that's why
Speaker 3: I felt like I needed to take steps like moving
Speaker 3: around people on podcasts and stuff like that, because it
Speaker 3: was just becoming really really overwhelming.
Speaker 1: I saw AD said something because you had Snoopy Badass
Speaker 1: on Yeah who you.
Speaker 3: Want special treatment? Because Snoopy Badass had a video where
Speaker 3: he basically said that, like and this is a long
Speaker 3: time ago, because I did an interview with Snoopy like
Speaker 3: two years ago and AD wasn't there or anything, and
Speaker 3: like Snoop and Snoopy had a video where it basically
Speaker 3: said that AD was blocking him from going on No
Speaker 3: Jumper and that Ad is just a hater because you know,
Speaker 3: Snoopy's the real king of Compton or whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: he said. So when I had Snoopy on the other day,
Speaker 3: I asked him, what was up with that video you
Speaker 3: saying that you would fuck a d up or whatever?
Speaker 3: And I guess you know, Ad, he like last night,
Speaker 3: did this whole song and dance acting like the victim,
Speaker 3: acting like, Oh, that's so fucked up that I would
Speaker 3: ask this dude about him. So, just for the record,
Speaker 3: I am one of the greatest hip hop podcasters to
Speaker 3: ever live. And if you think that I'm going to
Speaker 3: have a motherfucker on the show and not ask him
Speaker 3: about the beef that he previously had with someone who
Speaker 3: was a host on the Channel A, you're not paying
Speaker 3: attention to what I've been doing for all these years,
Speaker 3: because that is one hundred percent what I do. If
Speaker 3: I have an interview with a rapper that hates Bootleg
Speaker 3: keV tomorrow, I'm gonna probably make it clear in the
Speaker 3: course of the interview, like fuck with Butleg keV.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, so why that's normal.
Speaker 3: That's what everybody does, ad Like, I don't know why
Speaker 3: he thinks he needs like special treatment, but I think
Speaker 3: the reality is is that he probably isn't even.
Speaker 2: Actually bothered by what I said.
Speaker 3: In the interview with Snoopy Badass. He just does like
Speaker 3: four streams a week, and he needs topics and he
Speaker 3: needs stuff to talk about, and so that probably seemed
Speaker 3: like something that would be good clickbait, right, And that's
Speaker 3: not like people just you see people become this weird
Speaker 3: version of themselves and they start faking fights, and they
Speaker 3: start faking beefs, and they start, you know, creating beefs
Speaker 3: out of nothing or whatever. And it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like I saw like a two minute clip of his
Speaker 3: stream in the reddit and I just didn't even I
Speaker 3: didn't even think about responding.
Speaker 2: It just seems so I.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, I think he said that you guys
Speaker 1: were like cordial.
Speaker 3: We've got some text conversations since then and everything, but like, okay,
Speaker 3: why do we have a text conversation when I was
Speaker 3: in Florence about to get married. Is because his cousin
Speaker 3: came on one of the No Jumper panels and then
Speaker 3: ad did a whole stream talking about you know, if
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with Adam, then you if you're my cousin,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't go on No Jumper or whatever, and I
Speaker 3: hit him up. I sent him, like, you know, a
Speaker 3: couple of texts just being like, bro, I didn't know
Speaker 3: you had a problem with this fucking guy, like like
Speaker 3: what do you like? But again, it's like he needed
Speaker 3: some clickbait. He needed something to talk about that week.
Speaker 3: So you see how ad even being who he is,
Speaker 3: he just is I don't know, it's like weird, Like
Speaker 3: you could have just texted me and said, like, why
Speaker 3: do you interview my cousin instead you do a three
Speaker 3: hour livestream about it. And you know that's why I
Speaker 3: kind of feel bad for these guys, because it's like
Speaker 3: they feel like they have to talk about me to
Speaker 3: get views and to get people to pay attention, because
Speaker 3: that's all of their most viral content has just been
Speaker 3: talking about I think.
Speaker 1: Lush said that. I think Lush is like, this is
Speaker 1: what y'all want, so I'm gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 3: Lush did a whole video swearing that he wasn't gonna
Speaker 3: talk about me anymore and thanking me for the positive
Speaker 3: impact out in his career and everything, and then he
Speaker 3: interviews somebody else that I don't fuck with, and he
Speaker 3: said like, hey, I really tried to stop talking about
Speaker 3: No Jumper, but this is what y'all want, but you
Speaker 3: guys don't watch my shit unless I talk about No Jumper.
Speaker 3: So I'm talking about No Jumper now. The difference between
Speaker 3: Lush talking about No Jumper and not talking about No
Speaker 3: Jumper is he'll get like a thousand views on an
Speaker 3: average stream and then he'll talk about a new Jumper
Speaker 3: and I'll get.
Speaker 2: Like ten thousand.
Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, that is a ten x multiplier, but
Speaker 3: still you're a grown ass man getting ten thousand views
Speaker 3: on your live stream.
Speaker 1: Have you guys chatted at it all?
Speaker 3: I mean, he tries to hit me up and stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's like, bro, I just don't fuck with.
Speaker 1: Him, cause I, like, you know, I had him on
Speaker 1: and he went off. He went off on me on
Speaker 1: some fucking podcasts, and then I ended up bringing him
Speaker 1: on and we're cool because I think I called I
Speaker 1: called him some shit when you and I did, because
Speaker 1: I never was like a fan of him on the channel,
Speaker 1: but when I met him, I was like, oh, he
Speaker 1: seems like a really genuinely like like nice dude.
Speaker 3: And with him, it's like it just reminds me like,
Speaker 3: do not operate your business like a fucking charity project,
Speaker 3: because he was somebody that was just so obviously fucked,
Speaker 3: and like I put him on the channel because it
Speaker 3: was like I thought that that was kind of like
Speaker 3: an interesting narrative, like look at this guy. He's an
Speaker 3: ex junkie, he's fucking addicted to banging prostitutes on fig
Speaker 3: he's just got like clearly got a few screws loose.
Speaker 3: He's chasing this battle rap dream. But then you know,
Speaker 3: like we brought him on the channel, and it's just
Speaker 3: like everybody on the channel was just viciously clowning him
Speaker 3: all the time, and.
Speaker 2: I was the one telling people.
Speaker 3: I was the one sitting down with Almighty Suspect and saying, like, Suspect,
Speaker 3: you gotta go easy on Lush.
Speaker 2: You can't just like be this mean to him. Because
Speaker 2: I remember there was like a freestyle thing where.
Speaker 3: Lush rapped and Suspect was laughing so hard, like falling
Speaker 3: out of his chair, and it was so funny. And
Speaker 3: I'm over here, I'm the one.
Speaker 2: Looking out for Lush saying, Suspect, you can't treat him
Speaker 2: like that. Like, Suspect, you gotta be nicer to him.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: T Rel was fucking shitting on him left and right.
Speaker 3: He fucking hated him, and I'm kind of trying to like,
Speaker 3: you know, navigate that. And you know, like, why was
Speaker 3: I going out of my way to help this guy.
Speaker 3: I never did one bad thing to this guy. And
Speaker 3: then of course all of his dreams are about me
Speaker 3: because I'm the only successful person that he's ever been
Speaker 3: around in his entire life. I'm the only famous person
Speaker 3: that he's ever been associated with, so he has to
Speaker 3: talk about me or else. Nothing's ever gonna move. My
Speaker 3: challenge to all of those guys, and I've said this before,
Speaker 3: is get a million views, have an opinion.
Speaker 2: Have a thought.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about on a specific video.
Speaker 3: Make a video that gets a million views, have a thought,
Speaker 3: have an opinion, do something. The stipulations are you can't
Speaker 3: get a million views talking about me.
Speaker 2: That's not going to do it.
Speaker 3: There's not a million people who care that much about
Speaker 3: any of these ex hosts talking about me, or you know,
Speaker 3: get an interview, talk to somebody who's like really interesting,
Speaker 3: and get a million views. That's my challenge to every
Speaker 3: single one of them. Well, I think you will have
Speaker 3: proven to me that you successfully left the nest when
Speaker 3: you get a million views, because I could tell you
Speaker 3: that last month I got fifty million views on my
Speaker 3: YouTube channel. And this is like people talk about a
Speaker 3: sinking ship. All of these channels combined are maybe ten
Speaker 3: percent of the views that I get in a month,
Speaker 3: and I'm a sinking shit. This is what these people
Speaker 3: actually want you to believe. It's bullshit narrative. They were
Speaker 3: never mistreated while they were on the channel. I was
Speaker 3: always transparent about pay. I was always like very uh,
Speaker 3: you know, open to having discussions about what the future
Speaker 3: of the Channel was going to be. So that that
Speaker 3: is the one thing that really bothers me is just
Speaker 3: this bullshit victim narrative that was painted on the way out.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that people are falling for it anymore.
Speaker 3: I you know, the Channel's doing way way better. We're
Speaker 3: crushing it right now and I have tons more great ideas.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you need money
Speaker 3: to go to war, and I got a lot of it,
Speaker 3: and I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they want to. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would hate to see like a war. I mean
Speaker 1: obviously not to me.
Speaker 3: It's like there's a scoreboard, right and I'm way up,
Speaker 3: even though people tried to paint me as if I
Speaker 3: was way down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you, But I do think it's important
Speaker 1: to acknowledge like community and and and back on fig
Speaker 1: are are successful, they're not. Maybe they're jump or successful,
Speaker 1: but thank you. I think you've you have a head start.
Speaker 1: You know you've been and I'm gonna go I mean, look,
Speaker 1: of course you're you have some of the iconic interviews
Speaker 1: of all time. Listen, I think you got to look
Speaker 1: at it as like through the scope of like these
Speaker 1: guys just started these channels, so.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, but they need to get a
Speaker 2: million views.
Speaker 1: You know. Have you watched Figmmunity World?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, you never.
Speaker 2: Well I've seen some clips here. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that like they're building something that
Speaker 1: they're you know, and I just wish that there was
Speaker 1: less like like I didn't like the way to hold
Speaker 1: Split happen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was bullshit,
Speaker 1: But I think that uh, you know, both things can
Speaker 1: be true. They're successful, maybe not as successful as you,
Speaker 1: but again you have a head start, but they're doing
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're making much more money for their families
Speaker 1: for themselves. Then would you acknowledge that that they're probably
Speaker 1: making more money now than they were making with no Jumper?
Speaker 1: Hell no, you don't think so, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm not in the business. So I just know
Speaker 1: that they have sponsors, they got you know, they got
Speaker 1: their own sponsor money coming in. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like they're probably and they
Speaker 1: might be okay, even if it's even if you're making
Speaker 1: seventy five percent of what they were making with you. Oh,
Speaker 1: hell no, you don't think so.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I mean I listen a lot of people talk to me,
Speaker 3: A lot of people tell me things I basically know,
Speaker 3: like almost exactly how much money they make, And I
Speaker 3: feel bad that they had bad management that led them
Speaker 3: in the direction of walking away from you know, money
Speaker 3: that could do. He was very, very meaningful for an
Speaker 3: opportunity that realistically has not panned out yet.
Speaker 1: Do you well, I mean yeah, I mean, do you
Speaker 1: think there would ever be an opportunity for you guys
Speaker 1: to do a reunion show or go on each other's
Speaker 1: platforms in the future? Is that out of the realm
Speaker 1: of possibility.
Speaker 3: For me? I'm looking towards the future, so is it possible.
Speaker 3: I guess anything is possible. But I just got a
Speaker 3: lot of good things going for me right now I'm
Speaker 3: really focused on and I don't really feel the need
Speaker 3: to sort of go back in time, you know.
Speaker 1: And obviously you know, shout out to brick baby, brick babies.
Speaker 3: Break baby better? Why be better? And break baby better?
Speaker 3: Be be better? Yo?
Speaker 1: What is it about like you and gang members where
Speaker 1: you just you just attract yourself to LA Gang members
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 3: Fucking he love me? What can I say? I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's just LA Gang members around you at all times.
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You get in where you fit in. And I've always
Speaker 3: been a fan of this of this music, and at
Speaker 3: a certain point, you know, like I like having conversations
Speaker 3: with Whack one hundred, I like having conversations with brit Baby.
Speaker 3: I do a podcast with Danny Mullin. He's a Communitian lords.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even know who Blue Blue Faces. There's been
Speaker 3: multiple times that I've mentioned Blue Face. He doesn't know
Speaker 3: who I'm talking about. I like doing that kind of content,
Speaker 3: but ultimately, like, the only people who are gonna really
Speaker 3: know a lot about the music that I'm into are
Speaker 3: pretty much gang members or people who are equally as
Speaker 3: fascinated by that kind of stuff as me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. This is kind of where
Speaker 2: I've ended up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm thinking, let's see, your two main co
Speaker 1: hosts now are whack in brick Baby.
Speaker 3: Right, Enemies can't be around each other. That's I gotta
Speaker 3: make it. I gotta work through this in time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean even back in the day, it
Speaker 1: was like you had t Row and you had k
Speaker 1: So it's like they couldn't be in the same place
Speaker 1: at the same time. Is that a conversation you've tried to,
Speaker 1: you know, mend a little or is it even.
Speaker 3: With krit Mac and.
Speaker 1: With Whack and brick Baby.
Speaker 3: I think like, actually, when I first started the Whack podcast,
Speaker 3: there was a chance that they were going to be
Speaker 3: able to be cool, and then it got way worse
Speaker 3: after that, So at this time, probably not. I do
Speaker 3: think like based on statements that they both made, that
Speaker 3: if they were to see each other, that it would
Speaker 3: not turn physical, at least based on what they've said,
Speaker 3: which that to me is a big step, big step.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would love to get them on the
Speaker 3: same page. I think they would be incredible together on camera,
Speaker 3: but we're not quite there yet.
Speaker 1: I remember in the past you had said that you
Speaker 1: would an interview six to nine.
Speaker 3: I think I would Now I was gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I got a feeling it's coming.
Speaker 3: You know. My dedication to the street code was so
Speaker 3: strong at a certain time that it just kind of
Speaker 3: blinded me.
Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I could do it.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: six and I want to sit down with me when like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure if he was watching my commentary on the
Speaker 3: Kodak Black six nine collab, that he probably would be like, well,
Speaker 3: fuck this guy, because like you know, I wasn't exactly
Speaker 3: positive about.
Speaker 1: It, but I think with you and WAC's dynamic, like
Speaker 1: WHAC would probably want to make that happen, right, I would.
Speaker 2: Like to make it happen.
Speaker 3: Me and WAC talked about it. He facetimed me the
Speaker 3: other day with six ' nine and six nine just
Speaker 3: started saying some random shit and I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I would be cool with it. It would be like interesting
Speaker 3: because of the fact that I was around six ' nine,
Speaker 3: like in the very very infancy of his career before
Speaker 3: he had twenty thousand followers when I met him, and
Speaker 3: I've kind of seen him get to be the biggest
Speaker 3: rapper in the game and now I guess he's the
Speaker 3: biggest Latin artist in the game or something.
Speaker 1: He's definitely not that well.
Speaker 2: He's he's up there.
Speaker 1: There's bad bunn eithers. Yeah, paesel Pluma, he's out there.
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't know, I mean, he's doing
Speaker 3: this thing. I don't think he's a bad guy. I
Speaker 3: just think he, you know, ended up in a weird situation.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like more now than ever, the selective
Speaker 1: outrage about snitching is like at an all time high.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, shout out whack one hundred.
Speaker 1: But definitely, Black always says selective politics.
Speaker 3: He's the most selective. Politics is selective one. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean because I think I like the ship with
Speaker 1: the QC guy, you know, and it's like, I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are signing him, a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people. Yeah, And I thought when I saw
Speaker 3: that story come out, I'm like, god, damn, Like, are
Speaker 3: there are there certain people that aren't gonna want to
Speaker 3: be around p anymore?
Speaker 1: Just went away?
Speaker 3: Nobody cared. Yeah, he just kept it moving. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: he didn't tell on anybody's famous. If you snitch on
Speaker 3: young thug, you're in trouble. If you snitch on or
Speaker 3: if people already kind of hate you, like six ' nine,
Speaker 3: he told on all these real gang members.
Speaker 1: People hated, people were.
Speaker 2: Iron to find something.
Speaker 1: No everybody wanted to tear him. It's almost like people
Speaker 1: wanted to tear you down and they got that little
Speaker 1: slither bingo and they were like, we're die.
Speaker 3: And I think that is part of why I have
Speaker 3: empathy for six ' nine now, having kind of like,
Speaker 3: I mean, I've lived through a few times, I guess really,
Speaker 3: but like you know, just seeing how bad the pylon
Speaker 3: is and everything, and I mean, what somebody, I'm not
Speaker 3: in the streets like that. If somebody snitches, it's not
Speaker 3: really my business. I really don't give a shit. There's
Speaker 3: nothing to do with me. I see vladen of your
Speaker 3: snitches all the time doing all kinds of crazy legwork
Speaker 3: trying to like explain why snitch is not a big
Speaker 3: deal or whatever in their interviews and is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: We talked about Andrew Tate. Mike Tyson says something.
Speaker 3: I thought I know it, but but that is how
Speaker 3: crazy my life is right now, is that Mike Tyson
Speaker 3: could have said something about it and I would not know.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what's like the one thing where
Speaker 1: you saw like, oh wait, this person is talking about this.
Speaker 1: This is kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like Andrew Tate talking to Tucker Calson
Speaker 3: about it and Tucker Calson doing that you know that
Speaker 3: face he's always making with like oh really, yeah, he
Speaker 3: let it man sleep with his wife. Well, like, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know that that was insane, because that's kind
Speaker 3: of like two of the biggest voices on the right.
Speaker 3: I guess watching Logan Paul talk about it the other
Speaker 3: day kind of trip me out. Just him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was giving you props for your like
Speaker 1: mental fortitude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: You seem extremely unfazed by a lot of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty my heart is cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you would have done this unless
Speaker 1: you knew you could fully like go sleep at night
Speaker 1: without any Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, in terms of how I
Speaker 3: view myself as a public figure, it's just I'm really
Speaker 3: not scared of the smoke. I think that there was
Speaker 3: a time period after like those dudes left the channel
Speaker 3: where I really didn't I just didn't want a beef.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to fight. I didn't want to like,
Speaker 3: I just I was just really turned off to like
Speaker 3: all the drama and stuff. And then having gone through
Speaker 3: the Great Cucking of twenty twenty three and the result
Speaker 3: with the resulting media storm, even just the shit that
Speaker 3: I just said about those dudes. I mean, I'm holding
Speaker 3: back like crazy. There's so much stuff I could say,
Speaker 3: but why not? Like what am I scared of that
Speaker 3: they're going to do another fucking stream talking about me
Speaker 3: for the eighteen hundredth time. Like I really don't give
Speaker 3: a shit, and anybody could say anything they want about me,
Speaker 3: and I'm not really tripping about it. You know, academics
Speaker 3: probably did like ten hours of live streaming about the
Speaker 3: Lena thing.
Speaker 1: Did you watch his live his live commentary.
Speaker 2: I never saw any of it.
Speaker 3: He Actually what's weird with him is that he said
Speaker 3: he texted me He's like, just so you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to talk about the Lena thing. It was
Speaker 3: like right when it first came out, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you could talk about it, like go crazy, bro,
Speaker 3: I don't fucking care. He's like, he's like, well, it's
Speaker 3: your baby, mama, YadA YadA. Like I feel like I'll
Speaker 3: be respectful and not talk about it, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry, like you could talk about it.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 3: Hey. Shout out to him though, for doing it, but
Speaker 3: then his commentary, like I didn't see it, but like
Speaker 3: I heard, I just kept hearing like reviews of it
Speaker 3: from people, and it's some of it seemed kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: The one thing I got mad about is I'm like, act,
Speaker 3: don't put my kid in the thumbnaw, which to me
Speaker 3: seems obvious.
Speaker 1: But that's super obvious. Keep the kid out of it.
Speaker 3: His fucking twitch mods or whoever they I guess they
Speaker 3: were the ones who did it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure he's not on photoshop making the thumbnail.
Speaker 2: Which makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that your wife had a number
Speaker 1: and it hit fifty x.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you give us any sort of idea? No, because
Speaker 1: we always hear, well, well, how much? How much does
Speaker 1: the number have to be for it to be worth
Speaker 1: a hypothetical situation for somebody to fuck my wife or
Speaker 1: you know, another person's girlfriend?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it like north of ten million?
Speaker 2: I shall not comment.
Speaker 3: I can't, like, I would love to just fully just
Speaker 3: about just hit you with the number. My girl's very uh,
Speaker 3: stand offish about talking about finances and shit, like she
Speaker 3: just doesn't really want to put a dollar amount.
Speaker 1: And does this fall under the LLC that you're a
Speaker 1: part of the money that comes in for this, Like
Speaker 1: do you get your cut of that because it is
Speaker 1: your wife?
Speaker 2: Uh not, sorry that her money?
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, yeah, I thought about that at a certain point,
Speaker 3: but I was like, you know what, like we participated
Speaker 3: in so many different deals together or whatever. Like her
Speaker 3: her whole thing is only fans from her account and
Speaker 3: then the plug talk accounts, so you know, I let
Speaker 3: her have her side of things. But I can say, like,
Speaker 3: even just for myself that, Okay, I had the biggest
Speaker 3: month ever on Snapchat.
Speaker 2: I believe like that.
Speaker 3: Any channel has ever had, at least like the guy
Speaker 3: that handles our Snapchat.
Speaker 1: Like, hey, you plugged me with hi, shout to Dean.
Speaker 2: Shout out Dean, I put, I put.
Speaker 3: He basically told me that I made the most money
Speaker 3: that of anybody had ever seen on Snapchat. From that,
Speaker 3: just from talking about it, plug Talk literally doubled. It
Speaker 3: was already a great business, it doubled, which that was
Speaker 3: also kind of insane for me to see. So I
Speaker 3: can't say that, you know, I could say that, like
Speaker 3: even just me talking about it and the things that
Speaker 3: came from the media storm has been insane from my perspective.
Speaker 3: From her perspective, it's even more insane. It's the best
Speaker 3: selling only fans seen of all time.
Speaker 1: Because she she was selling it like you had to.
Speaker 3: Pay the pay I have bucks for her only fans
Speaker 3: and you have to pay twenty dollars through the DMS
Speaker 3: in order to purchase it.
Speaker 1: Wow, M do you know what what her subscriber count is?
Speaker 3: It is I think like five times the most that
Speaker 3: it ever was before, but I probably I guess it
Speaker 3: the exact number. Well, you can't see that if you
Speaker 3: go to the page.
Speaker 2: I'm not too like, No, you could see it on
Speaker 2: her end, but you can't see that.
Speaker 1: I didn't know because you know, a fucking Instagram, so
Speaker 1: you can see, you know, I don't know if it
Speaker 1: shows that. No, so it's boom. Business is booming.
Speaker 2: Business is booming.
Speaker 1: I want to get real quick before before we wrap.
Speaker 1: I think that like one thing that you said when
Speaker 1: all this shit was like going left, was like if
Speaker 1: you take YouTube revenue out of your uh business model,
Speaker 1: just like on some content creator shit, like kind of
Speaker 1: give me like a little peek into what the business
Speaker 1: of no Jumper is and like how you're able to
Speaker 1: monetize on so many levels you mentioned the Snapchat.
Speaker 3: Show, Snapchat, Facebook, Patreon on the monetization of the audio
Speaker 3: on you know, any app where you listen to just
Speaker 3: the audio and it inserts ads into it, brand deals, merchandise,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously plugtalk is its own fucking world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just there's a lot.
Speaker 3: That's why I was crazy when people are like, oh,
Speaker 3: like his business is done because these hosts left. I'm like,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm gonna make you know, twenty thousand dollars less
Speaker 3: this month, maybe thirty thousand dollars less this month because
Speaker 3: all these hosts left. That means nothing to me. That
Speaker 3: is nothing. I could gladly throw twenty thousand dollars in
Speaker 3: the trash every single month, then it would mean nothing
Speaker 3: to me. My mortgage on the space is like twenty
Speaker 3: grand a month, and that means nothing to me. So
Speaker 3: it's like, people really got me fucked up financially sometimes,
Speaker 3: And I guess I kind of ask for it because
Speaker 3: I don't flex or like do any well.
Speaker 1: You've been flexing lately, but not really.
Speaker 3: Right, Like you never seen me buy anything, you never
Speaker 3: seen me.
Speaker 1: You threw up the numbers. I mean, you put the
Speaker 1: fist over the dollar amount for you too, But you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: I do the view count.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not telling people how much money we
Speaker 2: make or whatever.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's always a weird one when people are like, oh, no,
Speaker 3: jumpers doing bad and that's why his wife did a
Speaker 3: porn steam of this other guy. It's like, just because
Speaker 3: me and my wife were both multimillionaires does not mean
Speaker 3: that we don't want to also make many, many more
Speaker 3: millions of dollars. You know. Like for me, I look
Speaker 3: at my life all the time and I have like
Speaker 3: basically like two different versions of it. It's like, there's
Speaker 3: the version of my life right now where I'm working
Speaker 3: my ass off trying to make as much money as possible,
Speaker 3: and then I have this other version that's like, well,
Speaker 3: what if I just went into chill mode and only
Speaker 3: made money off of my more passive revenue streams, Like,
Speaker 3: to put it in perspective, just from selling Instagram promo,
Speaker 3: I could easily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the ig is its own beast.
Speaker 3: I could have my own my entire life, paid for
Speaker 3: my kid in private school, still going on vacations from
Speaker 3: just the Instagram promo.
Speaker 2: Think about that.
Speaker 3: That is a tiny percent and it's still enough to
Speaker 3: keep everything afloat. And when I was going through all
Speaker 3: that shit, I did like think about that, like, well,
Speaker 3: maybe I'd be happier if I just did whatever the
Speaker 3: fuck I wanted to do all the time. I remember
Speaker 3: I was doing a podcast with Ryan long As, a
Speaker 3: comedian New York, and I said something about like, how lately, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've just been thinking like maybe I just want to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, spend more time with the family and spend
Speaker 3: more time around my kid. And he laughed in my
Speaker 3: face and he goes, He's like a guy, like you,
Speaker 3: like you're not what are you gonna do? Just sit
Speaker 3: around and watch your kid grow up? He's like laughing
Speaker 3: in my face. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like how the fuck I can't chill out like maybe
Speaker 3: when I'm older or like, you know, I respect the
Speaker 3: fuck out of it when I see my girl able
Speaker 3: to sit around the house for twelve hours all day
Speaker 3: and do nothing but play with blocks with the kid
Speaker 3: and right take it for a walk around the buck
Speaker 3: and all that. And when I do have days where
Speaker 3: it's just me at the house, I force myself to
Speaker 3: be as present as possible, keep the phone on, doing
Speaker 3: how disturbed try not to be sending text to people
Speaker 3: about content all the fucking time, trying not to look
Speaker 3: at TikTok and Twitter and all this shit.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I'm still in my moment.
Speaker 3: I'm still like, I have content I want to make,
Speaker 3: I have things I want to do with my life.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the hard part is that there's just too many
Speaker 3: things I want to do in my life.
Speaker 2: I want to go play in all these fucking.
Speaker 1: Poker You're a fucking poker beast.
Speaker 3: I want to go play in all these poker tournaments
Speaker 3: that are like twenty thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 3: to enter these tournaments and shit. But this just doesn't
Speaker 3: make sense for me to take my time and spend
Speaker 3: doing those things when I could be in the office
Speaker 3: grinding out content.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, how hands on are you with what
Speaker 1: we see?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are you like, Hey, we just did this interview. Make
Speaker 1: sure you clip this, this, this, and this, or do
Speaker 1: your editors send the title? Hey, this is the title.
Speaker 1: Do you approve or disapprove?
Speaker 3: I do an interview and then by the end of
Speaker 3: the day, one of the guys sends me a big
Speaker 3: email with the time stamps and suggested clips and then
Speaker 3: I sit down did it last night. I did a
Speaker 3: fuck load of the shit last night for like an
Speaker 3: hour before I went to bed, where I just sat down.
Speaker 3: I approved or denied every single title for the clips,
Speaker 3: wrote the full title starred things that would be like
Speaker 3: a good TikTok moment or whatever.
Speaker 1: You're like, you're fucking I'm stary hands.
Speaker 3: On because I don't think you know. And now, like
Speaker 3: shout out Remo. I have Remo in my life who
Speaker 3: like helps me write questions for some of the interviews,
Speaker 3: helps me with titles sometimes. So to even have one
Speaker 3: person that you really trust with that kind of stuff
Speaker 3: is amazing. But at the same time, like I could
Speaker 3: definitely take the five or ten minutes to review the
Speaker 3: time stamps that he sends through so I can approve
Speaker 3: it or not, because that's yeah, that's just one thing
Speaker 3: where it's just like I know how I want my
Speaker 3: shit to be clipped.
Speaker 1: And then you you stopped going live, right, there's no
Speaker 1: more like like when you do the Wednesday or the
Speaker 1: No Jumper show, it's not live anymore. Is there a
Speaker 1: reason why you stop that?
Speaker 3: The number one reason is that we were doing the
Speaker 3: live thing at six pm, which I've just become more
Speaker 3: and more aware of, like my own body and my
Speaker 3: own mind. Yeah, it's late, it's late. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: by the time six pm, role.
Speaker 1: You get home at like eight forty five, nine o'clock, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of my interviews that I'm doing
Speaker 3: are early in the week, so it's like I might
Speaker 3: sit down and do three interviews throughout the course of
Speaker 3: the day on Tuesday and then also stream and have
Speaker 3: to have the energy to have a really great conversation
Speaker 3: for two hours at six pm. At a certain point,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so if I don't go live,
Speaker 3: I can have a better chance of getting the content monetized.
Speaker 3: It'll be better and have the clips ready to go,
Speaker 3: and I'll enjoy it more and it'll be better content.
Speaker 3: I think that going live is like really good when
Speaker 3: you're still in that period of your career where you're
Speaker 3: like trying to you know, activate your fan base, and because.
Speaker 1: You can interact, you get the super chats going, and.
Speaker 3: I respect the fuck out of it. But I'm just
Speaker 3: not at that place in my life where I want
Speaker 3: to be hanging out in the studio until midnight every night,
Speaker 3: I see fresh and fit do it, I see fucking
Speaker 3: whatever do it, and I just don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: For me, it just makes more sense to record the
Speaker 3: shit in advance, like I could do all my interviews live.
Speaker 3: But then you know, something like the Whack one hundred podcast,
Speaker 3: it's like I'm paying him out a percentage of what
Speaker 3: we make from it. And it's like, if we do
Speaker 3: it live and it earns one hundred dollars as opposed
Speaker 3: to us doing it in advance and being able to
Speaker 3: cut the swears out of the beginning and do all that,
Speaker 3: and it makes you know, many many thousands of dollars
Speaker 3: for somebody like him. It's like, what am I going
Speaker 3: to tell him, Like, Hey, you didn't make this that
Speaker 3: much of this month, but it is because we went live.
Speaker 3: Like that's just would seem insane to me.
Speaker 1: So that you're deal with Whack, is you just ad
Speaker 1: revenue split? Yeah, we're partners on this on these videos.
Speaker 1: You'll see full transparency this with the videos made this
Speaker 1: what you made type shit.
Speaker 3: I want to incentivize somebody like him, and I don't
Speaker 3: mind doing that.
Speaker 2: You know, we make up, we make the money in
Speaker 2: other ways.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you did start editing out curse
Speaker 1: words for the first couple of minutes. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: what minute point is the cutoff because I've I've started
Speaker 1: out my guys do like the first five minutes, just
Speaker 1: to be safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then sometimes it's like you'll interview somebody who
Speaker 3: says the N word at.
Speaker 2: The end of every sentence. They cut that out, like it.
Speaker 1: Just really sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know. We try to like hit a good
Speaker 3: balance with it, but I never tell the person like
Speaker 3: trying not to swear for the first come.
Speaker 1: And I talk about so much mushroom shit on the
Speaker 1: fucking podcast, so like anytime we have like a dope
Speaker 1: shroom clip, I just know it's gonna get the yellow
Speaker 1: fucking dollar sign.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about the There's been a few
Speaker 3: episodes like I got a Rampage Jackson interview. It was
Speaker 3: so good and I just was never able to get
Speaker 3: it to turn green for like three weeks? How many?
Speaker 1: Like how many? Because will you do the same thing
Speaker 1: we do, Well, we'll put up a version and then
Speaker 1: it hits yellow fuck re upload. Let's redo this.
Speaker 3: Over and over and over. Yeah, but that that Rampage one.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. I think he said
Speaker 3: trammy or like retard. I think, if you want, I
Speaker 3: think he was saying those words one of those words
Speaker 3: a few times. Never able to get it monetized, and
Speaker 3: it's kind of like not that big a deal, like
Speaker 3: you're talking about a couple thousand bucks, but it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, well, that's my money that I
Speaker 3: was supposed to make for that day. When I went
Speaker 3: in and sat down for a couple hours, I remember
Speaker 3: my house flooded the night before the Rampage Jackson interview,
Speaker 3: and that really stood out to me extra like I
Speaker 3: felt like I deserved to get paid for it because
Speaker 3: I had been like bucketing water. Yeah yeah, I'd been
Speaker 3: bucketing water out of my fucking living room earlier in
Speaker 3: the day. That really seemed like I deserve to get
Speaker 3: paid for what I did the next day.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, Yeah, it's definitely a struggle YouTube.
Speaker 1: I feel like you guys aren't a Rumble yet. Huh.
Speaker 3: We made an account because we had a YouTube strike
Speaker 3: so we couldn't upload for a week, and so we
Speaker 3: did make a Rumble account, but we haven't really stayed
Speaker 3: up on it as far as I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I was like, I wonder if
Speaker 1: Rumble's gonna really take because they've been spending so much
Speaker 1: fucking money between the Kick and the Rumbles like that.
Speaker 2: I try to be audience first, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where YouTube is where the audience exactly.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, maybe if somebody said, hey,
Speaker 3: We're going to give you an extra two hundred grand
Speaker 3: a month to just stream your shit on Rumble, like well, okay,
Speaker 3: that does sound kind of appealing, but like, especially in
Speaker 3: the position that I'm kind of in where a bunch
Speaker 3: of the hosts just laughed, it's like you want to
Speaker 3: make you want to make the experience as easy as
Speaker 3: possible on your fans, and I don't know, it's like
Speaker 3: I've gotten those offers before of like caffeine and all
Speaker 3: this shit, and it's like you really think that I'm
Speaker 3: just like gonna just completely fuck over my fans just
Speaker 3: to just to get a little extra money. It's like
Speaker 3: I can make money in other ways, Like I would
Speaker 3: rather just go lab on the platform that built us
Speaker 3: in the first place.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you're overdue for a Rogan interview.
Speaker 1: Has that ever almost happened.
Speaker 3: So the Rogan narrative is that one day Rogan was
Speaker 3: in the airport, which is kind of interesting. This is
Speaker 3: like twenty eighteen. Maybe he's in the airport, which I
Speaker 3: would assume he mostly flies private. He doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: the kind of guy who should be just hopping on
Speaker 3: a plane.
Speaker 1: Right, He seems like it also seems like kind of
Speaker 1: like a normal dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also it's just like, damn, Joe Rogan. I
Speaker 3: how fucking annoying it is to be in the airport.
Speaker 1: God like trying to jerk you off.
Speaker 2: Dude, insane. I've heard.
Speaker 3: I've heard about him like trying to go work out
Speaker 3: in the hotel lobby or not in the lobby, but
Speaker 3: in the hotel gym. Dude's just washing him and they
Speaker 3: have to like shut the gym down because it's like
Speaker 3: every person in there is a potential Joe Rogan fan, especially.
Speaker 2: At the gym.
Speaker 1: Especially at the gym.
Speaker 3: But so he's in the airport and some fan of
Speaker 3: mine who I can't even remember who it was. I
Speaker 3: know it's somebody that I actually know in real life,
Speaker 3: he goes up to him and he's on acid, and
Speaker 3: he says to Joe Rogan. He says, Joe, I'm on acid,
Speaker 3: but you need to do a podcast with Adams two.
Speaker 3: He's this shit YadA YadA, YadA, and just starts telling
Speaker 3: him about me. And then I wake up the next
Speaker 3: morning and I first thing I see is a text
Speaker 3: from this dude telling me about how he was on
Speaker 3: acid and he told Joe Rogan about me at the airport.
Speaker 3: And I'm just looking at my text, like what the fuck?
Speaker 3: And then I look at Twitter boom Joe Rogan follow
Speaker 3: and Joe Rogan DM saying, Hey, I met this guy
Speaker 3: on acid in the airport and he told me that
Speaker 3: I should fuck with you. And I was just like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's amazing, dude. I'm a huge fan. You're one of
Speaker 3: the main people that made me want to do podcasts
Speaker 3: in the first place. I really have to thank you
Speaker 3: for like a lot of the good things that happened
Speaker 3: in my life the past couple of years. YadA YadA
Speaker 3: didn't respond to that, and sent him a couple of
Speaker 3: different things over the years of like, look at this
Speaker 3: viral moment or look at this conversation I had that
Speaker 3: I thought you might like, and he doesn't. He's never responded.
Speaker 3: Somebody was talking about plug talk on his Bert Kreischner
Speaker 3: was talking.
Speaker 1: About We talked about it a couple times on there,
Speaker 1: couple I only know of one, but they talked about
Speaker 1: it on they did the protect your Park shit with
Speaker 1: the like I watched a lot of Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2: See I watch a f amount of it.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, but you've been brought up on there a
Speaker 1: couple of times.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I have no idea how you actually get
Speaker 3: on Joe Rogan. I'll gladly.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of his thing. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he has like a fucking whatever.
Speaker 2: He's interested in. Yeah, sometimes I see him doing interviews.
Speaker 3: With people that are like really official, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that person's PR team probably will line this up with
Speaker 3: old Joe Rhodes.
Speaker 1: But I'm surprised, Like hash, I'm surprised I haven't seen
Speaker 1: Rober Kennedy on your podcast or you try to stay
Speaker 1: away from the politics.
Speaker 2: I think he's a kapper, do you think so?
Speaker 3: I listened to a whole interview with him, found him
Speaker 3: kind of impressive, and then I listened to another podcast
Speaker 3: that sort of broke down all of his lies I
Speaker 3: think he has a very strained relationship with the truth,
Speaker 3: and I'm not really interested in a lot of these
Speaker 3: people that are sort of making careers out of, you know,
Speaker 3: basically casting suspicion on the vaccine in ways that I
Speaker 3: don't think make any fucking sense. Uh So, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not really a big fan of that guy, not a fan.
Speaker 3: He might have some good things to say, but I
Speaker 3: I don't really feel like he's being honest with his audience.
Speaker 1: Do you think because your obviously dad had a big
Speaker 1: career in politics, right, you grew.
Speaker 3: Up, A lot of people think that.
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, obviously he was close with the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of people think I might be in
Speaker 3: the illuminati because my dad was an unpaid staffer volunteering
Speaker 3: to help out Bill Clinton when Bill Clinton was a
Speaker 3: total fucking nobody.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess he was the governor of Arkansas.
Speaker 1: But right, he wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad like helped out on his campaign, and
Speaker 3: my uncle actually got like a role within the Clinton
Speaker 3: administration and managed to survive into the Bush administration with
Speaker 3: the same gig, kept the same job basically doing some
Speaker 3: like diplomatic work with other countries and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: But yeah, my dad had you know, I think my
Speaker 3: dad like pictured himself having a longer career in politics,
Speaker 3: but then he ended up catching a fed case, being
Speaker 3: charged with mail fraud because of some shisty business that
Speaker 3: he was accused of doing. That he's still to this
Speaker 3: day claims that he did not do. But I think
Speaker 3: that kind of through a stick in the spokes of
Speaker 3: his political aspirations.
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, you, I mean, I
Speaker 1: grew up a Democrat, you know, on my families that way.
Speaker 1: But it feels like politically shit is just kind of
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, no more bro on
Speaker 1: both sides, it's just wild.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I feel like a man without a home
Speaker 3: because I don't you know, I can't vibe with all
Speaker 3: these fucking social justice warrior lunatics.
Speaker 2: I can't vibe with like the.
Speaker 1: Trump, the crazy psychotic Trump sh the GOP, even like
Speaker 1: fucking deranged death cult. Yeah, Desants is a wild boy,
Speaker 1: Like I'm good on It's just like like you said, like,
Speaker 1: where's the normal do.
Speaker 3: At the middle of the road. There's got to be
Speaker 3: something that's a little bit more middle of the road, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't really like even Biden. I don't
Speaker 3: think Biden has like crazy ideas about gender in his head,
Speaker 3: in his ninety thousand year old head, but I do
Speaker 3: think he has people on his cabinet or like working
Speaker 3: within his administration that have insane ideas about gender. And
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of unfortunate that I have to
Speaker 3: vote for somebody who is basically being held hostage by
Speaker 3: a lot of these crazy ass ideas, since I don't
Speaker 3: think he's personally really invested in it. But at the
Speaker 3: same time, could I vote for Trump who tried to
Speaker 3: steal the.
Speaker 1: Election couldn't do it? No, so I couldn't vote for Trump. No,
Speaker 1: I agree for me, I'm hoping this is like I'm
Speaker 1: a vote for Cornell West the Green Party.
Speaker 2: No, I like that. What's his name, the Indian guy,
Speaker 2: the Republican Canadate.
Speaker 3: He's actually not a crazy person, kind of like him.
Speaker 3: I still can't remember how to say his name, Vi Vivic.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him Vivek Rashashana. Yeah, that's not that's
Speaker 3: not that, but it's something that kind of sounds like that.
Speaker 3: I listened to like a two hour podcast with him
Speaker 3: the other day, and I kept thinking about you listening
Speaker 3: to the All In podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually saw the Robert F. Kennedy podcast on there.
Speaker 3: And that is what I was referring to. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: uh did a really good job on that episode, So that.
Speaker 1: Was I came away from that being like, I'm voting
Speaker 1: for this guy.
Speaker 3: Oh the Kennedy one, Yeah, oh yeah, I thought it
Speaker 3: was pretty good at first. But the vividfect Rahashana, whose name.
Speaker 1: I got to check him out.
Speaker 2: I thought he had a very good appearance on there.
Speaker 3: So that was also.
Speaker 2: Man vote voting for a Republican I've never seen it
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 1: I've never even think I've never even thought about that
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just takes the Democratic Party getting a
Speaker 3: little bit crazier and the GOP getting a little bit
Speaker 3: more normal, and I could find myself there. And also
Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like it would be that big a deal,
Speaker 3: whereas like two white guys admitting, like in who exists
Speaker 3: in hip Hop admitting that they've considering voting for Republican.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like we would have had a
Speaker 3: BuzzFeed article about us already if this was taking place, Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, like I'm not voting
Speaker 1: for I mean, the only guy who I've heard is
Speaker 1: like reasonable as a guy you just brought up. I mean, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: if it's DeSantis and Trump or one of them two
Speaker 1: versus Biden, I'm just gonna have to vote for Sleepy
Speaker 1: Joe again. I'm really, honestly probably going to vote for
Speaker 1: Cornell West. I'm just going to surrender my vote to
Speaker 1: the third party.
Speaker 3: I do think Biden has done a pretty good job,
Speaker 3: regardless of his own lack of cognitition.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, he seems like he's barely hanging on.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Afghanistan with draw was done in
Speaker 1: an extremely messy and terrible way, and now China's there
Speaker 1: and it's very unstable, and uh, I hate the fact
Speaker 1: that this Ukraine War is becoming I mean it. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's pushing China and Russia closer together. I think the
Speaker 1: Ukraine Wars a fucking disaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but can you imagine how bad it would have
Speaker 3: been if Trump was the president during it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 2: We had a very hard time standing up to Russia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe has been gangster as fuck. He
Speaker 3: is not scared of.
Speaker 1: The r I'm waiting for the Hunter Biden podcast run
Speaker 1: whenever he's clear from whatever Plea deal that just fell through.
Speaker 2: Yeah it fell through, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: I just got done listening to a New York Times
Speaker 3: Daily podcast about the deal and then find out the
Speaker 3: deal that they made this podcast about him taking did
Speaker 3: not happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got He thought if he took the plea
Speaker 1: everything it was included, and the judge was like, nope.
Speaker 3: Poor sleepy Joe and its crackhead.
Speaker 1: So on, Oh hey, I'm not gonna lie though, Hunter
Speaker 1: Biden looked like he was a hell of a hand brouh.
Speaker 1: This guy was having sex parties, smoking crack, going one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy miles an hour in the.
Speaker 2: Nevaday Exact with strangers.
Speaker 1: Just a wild bully.
Speaker 2: Leaving your laptop at the at the.
Speaker 1: Like a very reckless, one of one guy.
Speaker 3: Kind of sounds like a lot of the people I'd
Speaker 3: be interviewing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like yeah, it's like this guy should be
Speaker 1: on No Jumper with Kritmak right, Like, I.
Speaker 3: Think Hunter Biden and Taste Savage would probably get along
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's crazy man. Well, look I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 1: Uh congrats on uh you know, proving everybody wrong because
Speaker 1: the channel's thriving. You're doing well. I like, I love
Speaker 1: the Whax Show.
Speaker 3: We got a long ways to go, but we're going up, up,
Speaker 3: up to the top.
Speaker 1: I love, I love the new host. I love I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Brick Bay. I text brick Baby because I
Speaker 1: know brick Baby since he was running aroun with kids.
Speaker 1: Baby better he's doing his thing maybe better? And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up with flock? Are we snitching on this? Uh?
Speaker 2: This this swiper man.
Speaker 1: I saw he put a post up saying like if
Speaker 1: you if you got any essentially if you weren't telling
Speaker 1: this guy DM me and you.
Speaker 3: Know who hit me up is Ugly God very upset
Speaker 3: about Ugly God the rapper who apparently Ugly God and
Speaker 3: Punch made dev have a relationship their friends, oh, which
Speaker 3: I had no idea about. And Ugly God hit me
Speaker 3: up basically saying fuck Flocco. I was like, I thought
Speaker 3: this was all for content. I didn't think.
Speaker 1: Because he's like openly advocating like hit me up. I'm
Speaker 1: putting it like I'm essentially it felt like one of
Speaker 1: those commercials you're watching in the middle of the day
Speaker 1: for like a class action lawsuits.
Speaker 3: Well, because okay, so I lived through the TJX six
Speaker 3: arc right, and I thought this was the same thing
Speaker 3: as that because TJ six, I'm gonna be real with you,
Speaker 3: he was not really like scamming like that, like at
Speaker 3: least once.
Speaker 1: He begins having sending money for like a manual.
Speaker 3: And yeah, but he did so much fake shit, like
Speaker 3: he had he had a show at a warehouse or whatever,
Speaker 3: and he had like a fake cop come and arrest him.
Speaker 1: It feels like the kind of thing you'd be at.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there, but I saw the video.
Speaker 1: I wish it's like the kind of thing he would
Speaker 1: have been at.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like one of the best interviews ever, Like,
Speaker 3: and I remember as soon as I got in the interview,
Speaker 3: because he said a lot of stuff that like it
Speaker 3: didn't feel like but it's like it was so absurd
Speaker 3: that I knew he had to kind of be trolling.
Speaker 3: Like he goes, I'm like, when are you gonna stop scamming?
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna stop. I'm gonna do this shit for life.
Speaker 3: And I'm just thinking in my head, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this isn't real, Like this is just a dude like
Speaker 3: shit to go viral. And then as soon as we
Speaker 3: get done the interview, he goes over to his bandager
Speaker 3: and he's just.
Speaker 5: Like, ah, that shit goes crazy, like this shit gonna
Speaker 5: be old d And I'm just realizing in my head, like, ah,
Speaker 5: I just got played, but I don't even care because
Speaker 5: it was great content.
Speaker 3: So like I assume when I see like Punch Made
Speaker 3: Dev his video got taken down by the Feds and
Speaker 3: they're investigating them, I just assume that it's probably cap
Speaker 3: it's probably marketing right right, But maybe it's not.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a real deal. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So for you, like, do pull Flocko call him? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 3: Bro? Are we are? We?
Speaker 1: Like, are you like snitching on this guy because you
Speaker 1: obviously he's under your roof.
Speaker 3: Actually, Punch Made Dev tapped in with me again about
Speaker 3: doing the interview, like we had already talked about it,
Speaker 3: and then we talked about it and then like stopped.
Speaker 3: He stopped responding for a couple of days, and then
Speaker 3: Floco went on this campaign against him and then he
Speaker 3: tapped in with me again like about doing it. So
Speaker 3: perhaps Flocko being an asshole or you know, a good citizen,
Speaker 3: depending on how you want to look at it, perhaps
Speaker 3: that is what's going to actually make the interview happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so I interview. Might Would you have
Speaker 1: Flocko sit in on the interview, I'd probably.
Speaker 2: Be dangerous, potentially put security in the room.
Speaker 1: Definitely have to have security. Yeah, your security at your
Speaker 1: building is like that fucking.
Speaker 3: Crazy Tony's been in a few shootouts too, so I
Speaker 3: know that he's not scared to do it when it
Speaker 3: comes down.
Speaker 1: Like, yo, yeah you got to sign this. Let me shure.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm getting wanded. I'm like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: I took him to the hood with Swifty Blue the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 1: Swift he is a good guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could tell that he was maybe.
Speaker 1: You took your security guard with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I could tell he was maybe a little
Speaker 3: bit like worried about the fact that we were just
Speaker 3: like pulling into random.
Speaker 1: Some pretty crazy like a hood vlog.
Speaker 3: I know, I wish I had done more of that
Speaker 3: back on the day because I remember I did the
Speaker 3: stupid young Long Beach one that was.
Speaker 1: Titled inside and that was huge, like.
Speaker 3: Twelve million views Inside the Asian Crip, Gangs of Long
Speaker 3: Beach or some shit. Yeah, I went crazy, but I
Speaker 3: was also just like, oh that was that was cool.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't like, oh, I got to do it again.
Speaker 3: Whereas now, when I think about it.
Speaker 1: You went to Watts, you went to over Block. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you went to Whole Block relatively recently.
Speaker 2: I was like a year ago or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't too long ago. Yeah, which seemed to
Speaker 1: be kind of a shaky thing to do as a
Speaker 1: man with a child and wife. Me let me go
Speaker 1: hang out in Old Block just for the content.
Speaker 3: I had a bunch of security as a result of
Speaker 3: the fact that I was with a hunter K track,
Speaker 3: so I really felt like nothing was gonna happen. But
Speaker 3: I tried to bring my own scurity guard and he
Speaker 3: just didn't show up. So that was the end of that.
Speaker 1: He got fired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, you live and learn.
Speaker 1: Do you move around with security on a daily basis?
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're going to Whole Foods.
Speaker 3: In the words of Action Bronson, why the fuck would
Speaker 3: I need a bodyguard? If you when I look just
Speaker 3: like the motherfucking bodyguard.
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Speaker 3: Oh we announced that today, be store. Oh that, but then, okay,
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Speaker 1: So how many dudes are going to be a part
Speaker 1: of the stream.
Speaker 3: We have me, and then we have like three or
Speaker 3: four other guys that I'm going to advocate for them
Speaker 3: not busting nuts too early in it so that we
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Speaker 1: Any civilians are straight porn guys.
Speaker 3: Uh, just just porn guys. For now, we're still like
Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, like how long is this gonna last?
Speaker 2: What's it gonna be like?
Speaker 1: Like, Well, a girl with nut on her face from
Speaker 1: the only fans stream come over and sit on the
Speaker 1: YouTube stream, possibly with DNA.
Speaker 3: That is one thing that we've been talking about is
Speaker 3: that we're going to have one employee who is basically
Speaker 3: positioned at the door to make sure that there's no
Speaker 3: like dudes going on with like their boner poking up
Speaker 3: out of.
Speaker 1: Their right because you don't want to fuck the YouTube up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jiz on the face would probably be bad.
Speaker 1: It's a flag.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Would you would you ever bring house Phone back on
Speaker 1: channel regularly or would you?
Speaker 3: He's someone that I would be down to, you know,
Speaker 3: have co host on some podcasts and stuff, because like
Speaker 3: me and house Phone, like when we've talked in recent memory,
Speaker 3: it's like, what do we talk about? We talked the
Speaker 3: last time we like kind of reconnected, it was talking
Speaker 3: about punch Made Death because me and him both the
Speaker 3: very beginning of our friendship was just us being really
Speaker 3: interested in all these underground wrappers and him just sending
Speaker 3: me links and me sending them links and stuff like that. So,
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like me and him on campra
Speaker 3: doors open probably a lot more likely than probably anybody else.
Speaker 1: Right for sure. Well, I appreciate you pulling up man
Speaker 1: Adam twenty.
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