1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yetty. Wow. 5 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: Dude posted that on Facebook. That's what drone missiles sound like. 6 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: This guy in his apartment in Ukraine, that's what Russian 7 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: drone missiles sound like. Can you imagine living like that? 8 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: We can't as Americans. No, just the idea that, yeah, 9 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: a own missile, whatever that is. I don't know what 10 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: that means. Do you know what that means? I mean 11 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: missiles are unmanned anyway, So well, right, you know, it's funny. 12 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: I was thinking that very thing. 13 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: I just I think they're delivered by drone anyway, most 14 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: of their own engines. Yeh. 15 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Can you just imagine living somewhere where you hear the 16 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: hum of drones and think, okay, here comes attack, and 17 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: you've grown used to the fact that there are going 18 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: to be some explosions and you hope it's not you. Yeah, 19 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 2: just insane that that can happen. But it's always been 20 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: the world and always will be the world. Here's a 21 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: little report on where we are on that, and we'll 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: fill in some more holes. 23 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: Ukrainian President Voloni Verzelinski got fifteen minutes with President Trump 24 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: this weekend at the Vatican ahead of Pope Francis's funeral, 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 4: and Trump now appears to be losing patience with Russian 26 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: President Vladimir Putin. 27 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: I was very disappointed that missiles were flying bye Russia, 28 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: but that missiles were flying very disappointing. 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: As the Trump have been a tries negotiating an end 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: to the war in Ukraine, Russia continues attacking Ukrainian civilians. 31 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 4: This weekend, President Trump wrote quote, it makes me think 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war, He's 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: just tapping me along. Then Trump floated additional sanctions on Russia. 34 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Right, and so then Putin floats this whole three day 35 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: ceasefire thing for their victory Day celebrations. Zelenski says that 36 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: there are still Russian missile attacks happening in Kiev and 37 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: that Moscow has no interest in piece whatsoever, which is 38 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: probably true. It's worked for Putin over and over again 39 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: throughout well quite a few years now, where he claims 40 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: he's going to stop or a ceasefire, and he just 41 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: keeps firing missiles and the idiotic media or various European 42 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: countries jump at it, and then you got this Putin 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: and North Korea confirming for the first time yesterday that 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: North Korean forces are fighting with Russia in its invasion 45 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. We already knew that, but now it's been 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: admitted by Russia. Earlier in the day, Kim Jong un 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: announced the construction of a monument honoring the North Korean 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: soldiers that have been killed in the Russia Ukraine war. Okay, 49 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: great wow. That was shortly after Putin thanked North Korean 50 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: soldiers for their heroism and fighting alongside Russian forces against Ukraine. 51 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: This is all because of the threat Ukraine poses, of course, 52 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: to North Korea. Weren't anyone, They don't pose a threat 53 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: to anyone, No, on any level. South Korean officials say 54 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: there are about twelve thousand North Korean troops there deployed 55 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: to the Kursk region. I remember at one point somebody saying, 56 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: if North Korean soldiers are actually involved in the fighting 57 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: and not just doing support, that would be crossing some 58 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: sort of red line. Well that was crossed a long 59 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: time ago, and now everybody admits that on all sides, 60 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: and nothing changes, right, this is interesting just as a 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: complete aside, I just rebooted my iPhone for instance, reasons 62 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: that are not at least been interesting. And now I'm 63 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: getting power spammed by one account. I've gotten eight messages 64 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: in the last thirty seconds. I hope this is not 65 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: somehow dangerous anyway, Moving along back to yeah, I'm under 66 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: attack from whatever the hell list is. So a couple 67 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: of thoughts on the Ukraine situation, a couple of correspondents, 68 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: and then an interesting perspective something else that's happening Russia wise. 69 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: But Paolo points out militarily, the only way Ukraine could 70 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: win the war with Russia was with enough US support. 71 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Didn't want to do that for fear of escalation. Judge 72 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: that giving them enough support to win is too risky, 73 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: not in our best interests. Hard to accept, but apparently 74 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: that's the case. Given that reality, continuing support them as 75 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: we have will eventually end with They're losing their entire 76 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: country plus a lot more lives. If we're not willing 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: to do what's necessary for them to win. The best 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: we can do is help them to minimize their losses. 79 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: Easier for us to say than for them. 80 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well, this is what I was talking about yesterday. 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Convincing Ukraine to come to the table is harder than 82 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Russia because Ukraine wants to fight to the death to 83 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: protect their homeland. So that's why Trump is being harder 84 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: on Zelensky. And I'm not saying that's right or I'm 85 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: arguing in favor of it, but that's the case I 86 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: think right. 87 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: For some reason, this popped into my head. I watched 88 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: the movie Rocky with my son the other day. If 89 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: you remember the original movie Rocky, toward the end, he's 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: getting the but Jesus beaten out of them. They both 91 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: are anyway, he says to his trainer, Mickey says, you've 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: stopped this fight, and I'll kill you. 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: He still wanted to fight, no matter how beat up 94 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: he was. And that's where Ukraine is right now there. 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: You stop this fight and they'll kill you. They just 96 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: want give us more stuff and we'll keep fighting. 97 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: We as you know, sovereign nation and taxpayers to decide 98 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: whether we want to arm them or not. I think 99 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: it's a good idea, So you don't. 100 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: Matt points out, he well, he says, now I preface this. 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm an armchair foreign policy observer if even that. Although 102 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: you know, Matt, if you're a man of logic and 103 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: reasonable intelligence, most foreign policy does come down to fairly 104 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: simple motivations, so you know, feel free to weigh in. 105 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: As much as the deal Trump proposed to Russian Ukraine 106 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me in terms not only of 107 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: fairness but even the optics, I feel like the administration 108 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: has two things in mind. One thing is that it 109 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: may be a matter of attempting to soothe the beast 110 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: to not go for total conquest. Back to Powlow's point, 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: and that's if he honors the agreements and doesn't decide 112 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: to continue. 113 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: That's a huge if with Putin. 114 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: As much as I don't like it and don't agree 115 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: with how he's handling it, I think Trump wants to 116 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: avoid further military and monetary involvement in this war. And 117 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: then he gets to his bigger point. I think Trump 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: is away of what may be on the horizon with 119 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: China and would rather save his capital for what may 120 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: come from that. 121 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: Maybe that's why the tariffs too. 122 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: He wants to begin the steps to bring manufacturing back 123 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: so he can be ready for you know, when the 124 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: great to severing with China. 125 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: Occurs. 126 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Just to summarize his thoughts, I would if there is 127 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: a whole of administration understanding that conflict with China, be 128 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: it merely diplomatic and economic or maybe trade and ordinance 129 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, that is the one thing we 130 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: must be ready for. What are lesser priorities that are 131 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: detracting from our ability to get ready for China? 132 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, here is the list. As listening to some really 133 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: smart people talk about Trump's foreign policy vision and you know, 134 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: whether he has one or not, or a worldview or not, 135 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: and they seem to settle on this, and this makes 136 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: sense to me. I don't know that it's a good idea, 137 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: but this makes sense to me that this is the 138 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: way he sees the world. 139 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Look, Taiwan is right next to China. Of course, China 140 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: is gonna take Taiwan. Ukraine's next to Russia, and they 141 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: want it more than the rest of the world wants 142 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: to stop them. Of course they're gonna take it. Canada 143 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: should be ours, Greenland should be ours. That's the way 144 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: he sees the world. And kind of an old timey 145 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: just like theirpower spheres of influence, since they say in 146 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: the business, Yeah, just very on the ground reality sort 147 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: of way. Yeah, yeah, and that might be the way 148 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: he looks at it. 149 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: It seems to be, yeah, yeah. 150 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I would love to know what he said in that 151 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: private meeting with Zelenski the other day as we were discussing. 152 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: And then finally this I found very very interesting, Thomas 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Grove writing in the Journal. With President Trump and many 154 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: other world leaders preoccupied with war in Ukraine, Europeans are 155 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: growing alarmed about what the Russian army has been doing 156 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: much more quietly along other stretches of its borders with Europe, 157 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: someone hundred miles east of its border with Finland in 158 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: the Russian city of Unpronounceable, military engineers are expanding army 159 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: bases where the Kremlin plans to put a new army 160 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: headquarters to oversee tens of thousands of troops over the 161 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: next several years. Those soldiers, many now serving on the 162 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: front lines in Ukraine, are intended to be the backbone 163 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: of a Russian military preparing to face off with NATO. 164 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: According to Western military and intelligence officials, You. 165 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: Think Premlin actually believes NATO would preemptively attack him, I mean, 166 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: because that's what a lot of you say. Ukraine started 167 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: this war talk of being in NATO when we put 168 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: NATO right on their doorstep and that blah blah blah. 169 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Putn't think NATO is going to attack him, an, I 170 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: think you know more about this than I do. But 171 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: I know that through the years, through the centuries, there 172 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: has been a certain paranoia that's run through Russian defense 173 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: and just their leadership because they don't have natural barriers 174 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: to invasion, right, But in the modern world, NATO's never 175 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: going to it just preemptively invade Russia. No, it doesn't 176 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: matter whether that's true or not. If he believes it's true, 177 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't think so. So they get into 178 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: the way, I'm sorry, into the fact that Finland has 179 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: joined NATO, and there are a couple more examples, but yeah, 180 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: the Russians are definitely projecting some of their power toward 181 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: Europe in a defensive slash saber rattling way, which has 182 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: the Euros somewhat on edge. 183 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 2: There you go, freaking those You know, the saddest people 184 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: on earth might be those poor North Korean soldiers. You 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: got the miserable life back home in your country with 186 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: your family starving, and to try to help them out 187 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: in some way, or because you got a gun at 188 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: pointed at your head. More or less there you are 189 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: in Russia. You probably don't even couldn't even put it 190 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: on a map. You had no schooling. The slightest idea 191 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: where you are what you're doing, dying for for Putin 192 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: and whatever he's it's good lord. So maybe your family 193 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: gets a few shekels. So when you get killed back home? Yeah, 194 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: just miserable miserable existence. Yuck. You know see what this. 195 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: Here's a tip for you, young listener. What's that, Mike Jack. 196 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: I'll do my teas after you say this. Okay, ah, 197 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: what was I gonna say? Eh? 198 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh, for you young folks, it is possible there will be 199 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: another period of peace and prosperity on the war in 200 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: the world won't last long, but we would urge you 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: when that moment comes to remember our wise old words 202 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: and say to yourself, Wow, this is weird and great. 203 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: It's like spring vacation. It's not gonna last. 204 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, based on my reading and history, it could be 205 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,359 Speaker 1: like two hundred years. 206 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: Before that happens again. Before it's like you know, the nineties. 207 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: Well, eat your sorghum and avoid saturated fats if you 208 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: want to live that long. I find myself wondering what 209 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: the answer to the age old question is if you 210 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: pitted one hundred unarmed men against a single eight hundred 211 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: pound lowland gorilla, who would win? 212 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: Right? 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad according the answer according to science and artificial intelligence. 214 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh okay, among other things we got on the wails. 215 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: Stay here? Can AI answer all questions? Can you just 216 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: plug in? Could twelve third grade girls take on a beaver? 217 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: Or? 218 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there are all kinds of AI questions we 219 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: can answer. 220 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: Now. What was the uh? 221 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Would you rather have a horse sized duck or one 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred duck sized horses? 223 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Something like that? Yeah? I always went to duck sized 224 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: horses because I think they just be cutere neck. Oh 225 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: my gosh, it'd be amazing. 226 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: You could You could have like tourism constantly coming to 227 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: your tiny little horse farm. Speaking of little girls, were 228 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: charge of anything you wanted? 229 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: Where is a horse sized duck? 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: Would have you soil in your pants? 231 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: Bro? 232 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: Put the duck back? Please? 233 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: The thing decided to pack you? Could you know, remove 234 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: your head? Speaking of which, this guy Mark, what's his name? 235 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: He's a software and AI guy and he likes to 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: pose various questions to AI and parse out the information, 237 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: and one of his questions has gone slightly viral. Apparently 238 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: there's a wild debate blowing up online. He says, can 239 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: one hundred unarmed men defeat a single gorilla in a fight, 240 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: and he breaks it down step by step. First, let's 241 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: take a look at the combatants, starting with the gorilla. 242 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: These beasts are insanely strong. A silver back that's you're big, 243 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: mature like lowland gorilla, and they range from six to 244 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: like eight hundred pounds that proverbial eight. 245 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: Hundred pound gorilla. They can lift. 246 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Now, this guy's a brit So he uses a kilograms, 247 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: but a silverback can lift up to seventeen hundred pounds 248 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: seventeen one hundred pounds. 249 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: Almost a ton. That's amazing. Run it twenty five miles 250 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: per hour. Wow, and. 251 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Has a bite force of thirteen hundred pounds per square inch, 252 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: enough to crush bones. 253 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: I have a feeling I'm going to quibble with the 254 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: result of this, but yeah, go on, quibble away. That's 255 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: what we're doing here. 256 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: One swing of its arm could kill a man instantly. 257 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: So the whole clothes line A giant silverback gorilla clotheslines you. 258 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: It could kill you. I'm sever of your spine, traumatic 259 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: brain injury. 260 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: Whatever. 261 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Gorillas are also agile and tough. They can charge fast, 262 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: dodge attacks, and they're thick skulls and bones make them 263 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: very hard to injure. They're built for combat in a 264 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: way that humans simply aren't. 265 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: I believe all of this. 266 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Jack, that the life of the average 267 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: male gorilla is gonna include a handful of fights, if 268 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: not to the death to one guy saying I've had enough, 269 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: I've had enough. You can mate with her. I'm going 270 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm leaving. I'm heading off into the jungle. You can 271 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: have her. 272 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: I don't want her. 273 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: Now, let's handicap the humans. You'll be sicker for soon enough. 274 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: With one hundred men, they have sheer numbers. Clearly, if 275 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: they swarm the gorilla all at once, they might restrain it, 276 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: but it's risky. Many would get seriously hurt or killed 277 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: in the process. 278 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm gonna quibble. After you get through this. 279 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: Now, we the humans have intelligence and endurance. We can 280 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: plan strategies like distracting the gorilla while others attack from behind, 281 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: might even wear it down over time. But it's not 282 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: easy and without deppens, it's brutal. Humans lack natural defenses, 283 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: we're soft. Speaking for myself, the gorilla could break bones, 284 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: are killed with a single blow. Coordination of the human 285 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: team absolutely critical. Any mistakes and it's chaos. By the way, 286 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: we'll post the link to this Twitter thread because it 287 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: includes AI generated videos. 288 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: Oh yes, not the violent part. I'm sorry. Good. Yeah, 289 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: you're sticking of. 290 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: Thirty eight. 291 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: So you got a picture of the fight. The gorilla 292 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: charges and scatters the group. The first few men to 293 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: engage would likely die fast. The rest would need to 294 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: swarm and pylon without hesitation to have a shot. Even 295 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: if they pin the gorilla, killing it unarmed is tough. 296 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: They'd have to suffocate it or cause massive trauma, which 297 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: could take time and lead to more casualties. 298 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: It would be a grim struggle, to say the least. Jack. Yeah, 299 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to see it because obviously the animal 300 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: doesn't have a vote and whether or not it wants 301 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: to participate in this willa. 302 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Seeing the gorilla's consentant and actually the guy points out, 303 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: this is not a fight anyone would want to see. 304 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: So could one hundred men do it? Possibly? But with 305 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: heavy losses. It's a meaningless victory at best. The gorillas 306 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: of powerhouse humans outmatched without weapons, the costs staggering. 307 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Wow, AI continues to benefit us all with things like this. 308 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty ups to slash twenty thousand jobs on 309 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: weak Amazon deliveries over the Trump tariff thing. 310 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: Because you know, practically everything you ordered through Amazon comes 311 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: through UPS, and they're delivering on less packages. I guess 312 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: there are that many fewer packages already. UPS slashing twenty 313 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 2: thousand jobs. I don't know. 314 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, YOUPS had severed their relationship with Amazon. I remember 315 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: reading that a while back. Interestingly enough, we mentioned earlier 316 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: that Amazon is going to show a tariff fee. Essentially, 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: how much of this price is the tariffs on your 318 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: transactions coming out of what soonish? The White House slamed 319 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: Amazon's reported plan. This is a hostile and political act 320 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: by Amazon, said White House spokeslady Caroline Levitt. 321 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: Political political obviously, and they have, you know, every right 322 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 2: to be not in favor of the tariffs and how 323 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: it affects their businesses. Hostile. I don't know if it's hospital. 324 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: Well, just to go on quoting Caroline Levitt, because it's interesting, 325 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: why did Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked 326 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: inflation to the highest level in four years. It's not 327 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: really a surprise because Amazon has partnered with a Chinese 328 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: propaganda arm. Oh shoot, Trump v Bezos. Now, I wouldn't 329 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: mind if this caught on. Of course, there'd be all 330 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: kinds of fact checking that would have to occur. 331 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: But I wish more gas stations in California would have 332 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: a sign that says this five dollars and ten cent 333 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: gallon gas. You're paying for eighty cents of it? Is this, 334 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 2: sixty cents of it? Is this? Blah blah blah blah blah. 335 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: I would love that, you know, or yeah, it should 336 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: I happen during inflation. This costs this much more because 337 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: of the Inflation Reduction Act. Now, we did have the 338 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: pictures of a goofy looking Biden pointing at the price 339 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: and saying I did this, which essentially the same thing. Right, 340 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: that was fantastic. 341 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: How is that not happened in cal Unicornia with a 342 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom's face next to gas pumps. 343 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised. I don't know. I loved that 344 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: period of time though, when you go around and have 345 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: the smiling Biden. Let's come Brandon good time. I wanted 346 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: to get this on before we get further into the 347 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: one hundred days of Donald Trump. So this is a 348 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: person Trump did an interview with the Atlantic, including Jeffrey Goldberg, 349 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: because Trump's that kind of guy. AnyWho, Maybe we'll get 350 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: to that a little bit later. Here's one of the 351 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: Atlantic journalists cold calling Trump on his own cell phone. 352 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: I don't know how he had Trump's number, but this 353 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: is how it went. 354 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: Right. 355 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: This is Michael Hello, this is President Trump. 356 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: There. 357 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: This is Michael Sheer. I'm a reporter for the Atlantic. 358 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: You wrote, oh, I know who you are. Michael, I 359 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: know who you are. 360 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 3: I never write you never write good about me, Michael, 361 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: you never ever wow. 362 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: So so Trump like old people, I guess, answers the 363 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: phone for random numbers without somebody texting first. Those of 364 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: us who are younger, we will not take a phone 365 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: call unless you have warned us for a long time 366 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: ahead of time, when we know exactly who it is, 367 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: because it's so scary to answer the phone, I guess 368 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: or something I don't know. Short of spouse and best friend, Yes, 369 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: we all now react with why are they calling me? Oh? 370 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: My god, what is this? Trump still edges the bone? 371 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: Who is it? I know who you are? You never 372 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: say anything nice about me? Wow? 373 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: Wow, So we have to Oh, you know what, you 374 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: got to do your your quibble about the gorilla. 375 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: Versus the Fellas thing we're discussed. 376 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw that one hundred unarmed men best an 377 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: eight hundred pound. 378 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: Gorilla in a fight. How about I throw that into 379 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: the One More Thing podcast that we do every day 380 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: after the show you can tune in look forward to 381 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. The more I think about 382 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: that idea, the more I like it. 383 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we do an additional segment that never airs 384 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: on the radio, and therefore sometimes there are swears. So 385 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: if you're excited by that prospect, Oh, that reminds me. 386 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: There's a great piece. A couple of folks have commented 387 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: on this, the Democrats new strategy of swearing a lot. Yeah, 388 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: we're all going to start swearing at the same time 389 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: to prove how authentic and like regular people we are 390 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: ready begin and reflect your anger right exactly, and it's 391 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: just it's pathetic. So we have declared aloud and repeatedly 392 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: that the first one hundred days and there's generally theme music. 393 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: The first one days of the Trump administration is a 394 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: completely silly and arbitrary measuring stick. 395 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: It is the pseudo. It is a pseudo event is 396 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: created by the media and then the report on it 397 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: like it's not something they invented. 398 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: Right, It's like Black Friday, which never was what it 399 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: claimed to be. 400 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: Ever, it's entirely made up. Anyway. 401 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Having conceded that, it is a decent enough chance to 402 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: look at some of the pros and cons and ups 403 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: and downs. Kim Strasse a little Wall Street Journal, one 404 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: of our favorite writers, very reasonable woman. She says, when 405 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Trump is right, he's right, and vicey versy. And she 406 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: points out that the opening two months of the administration, 407 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: we're mold breaking, the policy equivalent of shock and awe. 408 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: And now it has slowed somewhat definitely. 409 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: And is a little more mixed as the. 410 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: Many many court battles which the administration had mostly intentionally provoked, 411 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: are working their way through the system. You've got a 412 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: little strm and drawing at the Pentagon, although that seems 413 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: to have died down. The one point she makes that 414 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: I think is pretty interesting was that and she goes 415 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: through and it's absolutely fair to do this because we've 416 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: criticized Trump for some of the things he's done, the 417 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: tariffs and the rest of it, but not only has 418 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: the victory on the border been just astonishing, and we're 419 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: moving toward figuring out how to deport all the people 420 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: who should not be here, which is you know, it's 421 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: not done yet, obviously, but it's an amazing victory. You 422 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: got the Education Department holding student bar wers accountable for 423 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: their debt. You've got women's sports and private spaces being 424 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: protected aggressively. We haven't won all those battles, but great 425 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: progress is being made. Marco Rubio has made a sweeping 426 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: and overdue restructuring in the State Department. 427 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: That's Kim Strassel's words. 428 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: Trump has slapped down the idiotic populist idea of a 429 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: so called millionaire's tax by various Republicans. There's a long 430 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: list of stuff that's pretty good. But the point that 431 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: she made that I thought was really interesting was if 432 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: you look at the first term, Trump's first term, which 433 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: got him reelected, the positives of the first term, because 434 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: the chaos of the first term was a you know, 435 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: it faded in time and didn't seem as bad and 436 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: b A lot of people realized, Oh, Trump didn't cause 437 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: that chaos. He didn't say, Hey, you know, I might 438 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: be a Russian agent. Let's argue about it for the 439 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: next two years. 440 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: Right. 441 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: No, that was entirely from the left. But she says, 442 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: dig under the surface, there's a common foundation of some 443 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: of the missteps. Mister Trump's first term success came largely 444 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: down to his reaganesque agenda, and it's those policies deregulation, 445 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: tax cuts, peace through strength that still resonate best with voters. 446 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: Yet his decision in recent years to draw closer to 447 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: his party's new breed of uber populists and neo isolationists 448 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: and to seed them, excuse me, through his government is 449 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: causing real backroom power struggles. A team of rivals sounds great, 450 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: but absent Abe Lincoln, it usually produces a mess. 451 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: That's interesting. I always wonder about that that that book 452 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: unfortunately or fortunately and fine book, but got so much 453 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: attention that everybody thinks having a whole bunch of people, 454 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, in your staff and your work team or whatever, 455 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: that disagree wholeheartedly is the way to go. And I'm 456 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: not sure that's true. 457 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: No, I think you need agreement on certain critical concepts. 458 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a reason Lincoln put together the 459 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: cabinet that he did. Read the book if you want 460 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: to know, it wasn't like entirely high minded idealism. You 461 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: know what I shall know, I shall Listenmber most of 462 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: my opponents into the nose, trying to co opt their 463 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: support and their coalition. 464 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: Get them on his side to win the election. Blah 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: blah blah. And then you might take it might take 466 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: a genius running that to make it work out. 467 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: Also, yeah, perhaps one of the greatest geniuses ever to 468 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: hold the office. Yeah, indeed. Yeah, you've got to agree 469 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: on certain fundamental principles of domestic and foreign policy. I 470 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: think the key is to have advisors who are willing 471 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: to say either a here's the weakness or risk of 472 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: what I'm proposing, or a cabinet where you say, all right, 473 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Jim has come out with a really good idea. Let's 474 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: take a look at the weaknesses and risks of his argument. 475 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Let's make sure we understand this thing from three hundred 476 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: and sixty degrees. 477 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: As opposed to you know, a JD. 478 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: Vance Marco Rubio, who might disagree violently on foreign policy 479 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: just they might. 480 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: It's difficult to tell with those two fellas, but yeah, 481 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: I'm repeating some of my favorite pundits who have been 482 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: saying this for years. Every president gets elected and thinks 483 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: that they have a mandate for just maximum change to 484 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: all different parts of the way we run our country. 485 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: And it's kind of odd if you think about it, 486 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: that we would every four years need major changes in 487 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: tax structure, healthcare, border, whatever it is. Just seems unlikely, 488 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 2: doesn't it, as opposed to, you know, tweaking the course 489 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: of the ship of state? Right, Yeah, you know, yes, 490 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, I think if Trump 491 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: had rolled in and and I know he's been talking 492 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: about tariffs since he was a young man, but if 493 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: he had rolled in the border and then just kind 494 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: of tend to, you know, other things, I think he'd 495 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: still be at fifty five percent. 496 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: At the risk of various young populists writing angry emails, 497 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: which I chuckle at, what would Reagan do is not 498 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: a bad standard just for the big stuff of domestic policy, 499 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: especially economics. I'm going to violently restructure trade in the 500 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: economy to bring it into conformity with what we need going. 501 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: Forward is a great, great goal, but you've. 502 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: Got to be realistic about the enormous amount of discontent 503 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: that's going to cause and understand that you're going to 504 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: get shellacked in a historic way in the midterms. 505 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but it's possible. We have no 506 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: idea what discontent about this looks like that a month 507 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: from now, it's going to it'll be the only thing 508 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: anybody talks about. 509 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Right, And what really bothers me about that is the 510 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: good stuff that's happening is so good, I mean so good. 511 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: The awareness of the rot in the American education system. Right. 512 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Imagine if that was just cut off after two years, 513 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump would still have his bully pulpit. But 514 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: if that progress ended. What to do about the universities? 515 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, what to do about elementary education that is 516 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: so incredibly important. Protecting women's rights and slapping down the 517 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: radical gender theory lunatics, bringing back Columbus that's another big one, certainly. Yeah. Yeah, Again, 518 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: if you stay in your lane and maybe one lane 519 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: on either side, enormous amounts of good can be done. 520 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 1: As if it's getting over ambitious, that's going to bring 521 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: everything down. 522 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 2: As we've said multiple times, if if, if it turns 523 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: out Mark Alpern's got his piece today he said, don't 524 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: judge any of this stuff yet. Judge is the war 525 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: between Russia and Ukraine over and settled six months from now. 526 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: If in quarter four we've got strong growth in this country, 527 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: then judge the tariffs. Not today. 528 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: I'd be perfectly happy, perfectly happy with no qualms whatsoever 529 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: six months from now. To say, man, that was a 530 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: brilliant move that really worked. If it works out well, 531 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: and I didn't think it would, but I don't think 532 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: it's going to d and I think this is going 533 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: to go down as one of the historically own goals 534 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: in presidential history. I hope, I know you really get 535 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: it wrong. I really want to be wrong for all 536 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: kinds of reasons. Financially, personally, I want to be wrong. 537 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: I want to be wrong. 538 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: For the fact that if it is an historic own goal, 539 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going to win like several elections in 540 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: a row over it. 541 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't want that to home. Oh yeah again. 542 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: Having run on immigration in the economy and hit like 543 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: a towering nine hundred foot home run on immigration, to 544 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: mess up the economy. 545 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: Would just be tragic. Yeah. 546 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Well, let's hope not yeah again. I'd be happy to 547 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: say I'm wrong. Any thoughts in that text line four 548 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: one five KFTC. 549 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 5: Strong Paul land Security second in Christy Noan reportedly had 550 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 5: her perse stolen while dining with her family at a Washington, 551 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: DC restaurant. And you would now believe how many Dalmatians 552 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 5: it took to make. 553 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 554 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: Wow. 555 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: That's unfair but funny, I would say. 556 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: So. 557 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: I got a weird fomo fear of missing out thing 558 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: about when when I when I find out this popular 559 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: meme and then I read about it and I think, Hi, 560 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: I missed that, and uh. Part of it is this job, 561 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: like I don't want to miss out on popular trends 562 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: that people are talking about without bringing them to you. 563 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: Part of it's just fomo, I guess. But somehow I 564 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: missed out on this viral video from a while back 565 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: about this guy in his early morning routine that apparently 566 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: has caught on. The four am wake up is not 567 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: just for Superman's CEOs anymore, says The Wall Street Journal, 568 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: and a quest to be ever more productive, the morning 569 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: routines of American men hit new extremes, and it's about 570 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: how It's become a big deal, whether you're Disney CEO 571 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Bob Iger who starts super early in the morning, or 572 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: CEO Tim Cook of Apple getting up at four AM. 573 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: I guess is the thing. And I didn't know about 574 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: this Ashton Hall, who posted a video his morning routine 575 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: that involved mouth tape. Do you know what that is, Katie? 576 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: What's mouth tape? 577 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: Hey? 578 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: You put it over your mouth when you sleep. 579 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: It's supposed to force you to breathe through your nose, 580 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: which is better for you. 581 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: I think my kids would discover my lifeless body if 582 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: I did that. But all right, and I think Almighty 583 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 2: God probably came up with a decent plan for how 584 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: you got to breathe while you're asleep. But thanks anyway. 585 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: This guy, he got his mouth tape an ice bath 586 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: filled with bottled Saratoga water because the kind of water 587 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: cold water in your bath obviously makes a huge difference. 588 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: A banana peel rubbed across his face, and most importantly, 589 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: it all starts. It's what is sense the oils or something, 590 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: And most importantly it all begins at three point fifty 591 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: five am. 592 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: I kind of like this sin lives late at night. 593 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: According to this post, that got so much attention. If 594 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: you're dealing with a weak mind, bad decisions, or lack 595 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: of productivity, go to sleep early. You do tend to 596 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: make bad decisions at night. Eating a relationship. 597 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Wise shortly after he took the tape off of his 598 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: mouth that Benjamin Franklin said, early to bed, early to 599 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: rise makes man healthy, wealthy, and wise. 600 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: In the days that fall, that video going viral. 601 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: Seemingly half of the Internet, from Ed Shearan to somebody 602 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: I've never heard of, posted clips parroting the Hall's routine 603 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: about getting up at four o'clock in the morning anyway 604 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: that sounds entertaining. I feel like last week we were 605 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: talking about how I feel like I don't feel like 606 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: I know this is true. Extroverts get to like run 607 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: the world and act like that's the only way to 608 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: do things. 609 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: Because they're extroverts. They're they're loud and proud and are 610 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: willing to get in your face and say it, whereas 611 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 2: we introverts. 612 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: Are kind of, yeah, I don't, I don't really like 613 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: it a whatever, and so you get all the attention. 614 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: I feel like people who are built to get up 615 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 2: early kind of dominate that conversation. 616 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: It works for you because that's the way you're built. Yeah, 617 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't work for everyone. 618 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: And the sort of person who is more productive, maybe 619 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: as productive as you, but does it getting up later 620 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: and staying up later. 621 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: So right, exactly, But there's no Look what a hard 622 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: guy I am aspect to that. 623 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 2: Right. 624 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: For some reason, that is kind of interesting. I don't 625 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: know why it is. I get up at ten am, 626 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: but I don't go to sleep until four in the morning, 627 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: and I'm productive the whole day gets no attention. 628 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: But yeah, here you've seen as a sloth or something 629 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: like that. Yes, kah, Well, there's nothing more manly than 630 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: rubbing a banana peel on your face or making sure 631 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: you have Saratoga water to jump into as opposed to tapwater. 632 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 2: Good lord, ugh, oh my skin, my poor skin. 633 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Hand me another banana peel quickly it's all dried or 634 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: something 635 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: Armstrong and getdy.