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Speaker 1: With the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft being six weeks away,

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Speaker 1: let's bring in NFL Networks Charles Davis. You can find

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at c f d Charles. The Jets

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Speaker 1: had the sixth overall selection in the draft at this point.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the following six defensive prospects have separated

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Speaker 1: there a gap after those top six? Well, there's a

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to have one of those conferences

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Speaker 1: how high does he go in the draft? You know,

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Speaker 1: lose guys like that, that helps separate it. But those

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Speaker 1: and I have no argument at all with them being

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Speaker 1: how do you think that might impact has Stocked? Truthfully,

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Speaker 1: he's a linebacker, would you expect that? Well, what makes

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Speaker 1: Reggie Ragland came out of Alabama and then Foster just

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Speaker 1: and we don't talk about it, but you know, Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Last year, Tico had to be rated as a tire

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Speaker 1: But truthfully, in today's NFL, those linebackers that can run

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Speaker 1: Tease Taber and Quincy Wilson, both highly rated guys, probably

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