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Speaker 1: What do we even do? What are we even doing? Hey, hi,

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Speaker 1: you found my YouTube channel. What the heck? It's Kyle McLachlan.

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Speaker 1: Come on, subscribe, Smash the button, hit it, punch it,

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Speaker 1: let's go. It's Kyle McLachlan. This is what are we

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Speaker 1: even doing? This is the cool show where we sit

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Speaker 1: down with actors, musicians, call types of creatives and we

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Speaker 1: talk about their world's, the world of art, the wild

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Speaker 1: word of social media, and we get crazy. It's it's

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Speaker 1: really about the creative process. That's what I'm most interested in.

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Speaker 1: Today we have Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm breaking eye content.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, look at that he's locked in. Say it

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Speaker 1: what it says on your instagram? Your full time friend

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Speaker 1: and part time doctor.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were going for my name.

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were saying comes to the end.

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Speaker 2: That's I was. It was like being in school. And

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Speaker 2: then he sure is like, uh, oh I help with

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Speaker 2: this one, and I know it's me never yeah when

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Speaker 2: they do roll call anyway.

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Speaker 3: Full time friend, yeah, but I like that and part

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Speaker 3: time doctor actress, yes, thank you, which I immediately thought

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Speaker 3: to myself, this is you're a great hire on a

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Speaker 3: set because actress.

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Speaker 1: Cover that, and then if they need a doctor, they

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Speaker 1: don't have to hire the doctor.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here, I'm here, don't have a degree, can't

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Speaker 2: do CPR.

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Speaker 1: Famously, it's overrated.

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Speaker 2: It's CPR is overrated. I was certified multiple times and

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know how to do this

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Speaker 2: gave me the card, I was like, I would not

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Speaker 2: be able to administer.

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Speaker 1: I bet you would surprise yourself and you would leap

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Speaker 1: in and you would say, well.

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Speaker 2: I gotta wait. You have to weigh your options. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: What does CPR stand for?

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Speaker 1: Cardios? I'm going to take a guest for really sureminary association.

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Speaker 1: It's not even susitation resuscitation? Right?

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Speaker 2: Do you think I think we got it right?

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's so nice to have you. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having thank you so much. I sort of begin the

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Speaker 1: show always by asking for the moment when you were like, ah,

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm supposed to do, and I feel like,

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Speaker 1: with you, this is going to be and I'm so curious.

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting question because your path is different.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's path into this crazy business is different, but yours

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Speaker 2: I think it's different in a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but was there a moment when you said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's not this, it's this.

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Speaker 2: I think I always knew it wasn't this, but was this?

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Speaker 2: But and what you understand that this is our right?

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Speaker 2: So I think you know, I study. I was pre

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Speaker 2: med because I'm Nigerian American and my mother wanted me

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Speaker 2: to be a doctor. Standard that's just come from Nigerians.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you're going to.

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Speaker 2: Be a doctor. And so I was pre med. I

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Speaker 2: know what CPR stands over. I'm they're just giving these

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so you already Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I knew in my heart and so it was like

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Speaker 2: kind of I'm a pisces.

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Speaker 1: So as am. I'm a dreamer as well.

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Speaker 2: I only sort of believe in astrology me too. I dabble.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fun. I think it's fun and playful.

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Speaker 2: I don't take it seriously, but they do say we're dreamers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I agree, we like shiny things. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense because when is your birthday?

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Speaker 1: Twenty second February. Oh, you're a February early pis.

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Speaker 2: Oh fire feel the thing is? I I like fire

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Speaker 1: Yes? I can watching your work, I believe. I just

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Speaker 1: And I think about my start, which is, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think it was like Beauty and the Beast.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, because you want the experience to be great, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, and someone else really wants to do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, comedy though, when was that like, because it sounds

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand there were genres, like I consumed genres,

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Speaker 1: Show, great truly in a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Seinfeld by proxy. My brother loved Seinfeld,

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Speaker 2: So I was encouraged in my acting journey because I

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Speaker 1: Class dramatic, you understand, I do understand.

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Speaker 2: And even Alexander Technique, Wow, I like sought out on alex.

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Speaker 1: Go to school a program.

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Speaker 2: It was just like an eight week Alexander tech extraordinary thinking,

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Speaker 2: I had a teacher. Her name was Diane Moody. I've

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Speaker 2: tried googling her, yes, and I can't because what that's

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Speaker 2: She wasn't me, but she was honest, but in a

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Speaker 2: playful way. I don't even think. I dabbled in modern

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Speaker 2: So I dabbled in tap, dabbled in jazz.

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Speaker 1: I dabbled, Ina, you dabbled.

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Speaker 2: How long did you do? Tap?

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Speaker 1: How there must be a video somewhere.

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Speaker 2: We have to find it. Someone dig it up, guys, please?

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Speaker 2: Is there a researcher on the team.

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Speaker 1: I was headed for musical theater. That was my only thing,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't know is that an appeal

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Speaker 2: That is a word.

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Speaker 1: I right with you.

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Speaker 2: Yea to the to the musical theatricists. No, not my thing,

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Speaker 2: but I respect and admire it.

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Speaker 1: I think you would be phenomenal. I think you're phenomenal

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Speaker 2: You're so kind and I honestly came here today just

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Speaker 1: Well, that's my job.

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Speaker 2: Job. You're doing a great job. I feel really good.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to go back because you were talking

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Speaker 1: about you were just engaged with acting what you saw

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Speaker 1: to say, I think that is one of your strengths

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Speaker 1: an intangible it is lightning in a bottle, you know,

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00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 1: to capture something like that. It was just it was

438
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 1: masterful the way you handled all of that and the

439
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 1: way it unfolded. Because in lesser hands that would it

440
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,239
Speaker 1: could have you know, it could have assembled and then

441
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, but you carried through. And I was like,

442
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 1: thank you. How let me ask you how you have

443
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 1: these indeuible characters. How do they find you?

444
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: I'd like to say it's people watching, because I feel

445
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 2: like that's lots of people's answers, But it's not I

446
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 2: don't there's some little spooky entity in my head. Yeah

447
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: that I just have to go live my life and

448
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: it's not about even observing people, and these ideas just

449
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 2: come to me, like you know, that'd be weird if

450
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: and then they go and then they come in that way,

451
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 2: or like when I did parent Teacher Conference is Sketch

452
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: with Jason Sidekis, it's I'm married to Kyle Mooney and

453
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: basically I start having the hots for my kid's teacher

454
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: and we fully end the sketch making out, and Kyle,

455
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 2: my husband, is like, uh, well that one for that

456
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 2: one for me. You know, we had tried it actually

457
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 2: before Jason Sidekis, But I just remember that sketch being

458
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: like I want to be in a parent teacher conference.

459
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: That is just I like that setting. So sometimes I'm

460
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: like the setting is where I'll start like that seems

461
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: like an interesting place for something strange to happen. Yeah,

462
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: and then you go, what could happen that would be

463
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: unusual or strange? Yeah, Yeah, it's it's moments like that

464
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: are conversations with friends. But you know I talk to

465
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: myself a lot. Do you talk to yourself?

466
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, I do. They say it's way to

467
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: stay sane.

468
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems very insane, I will.

469
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Speaker 1: Say, but I think it's I think it's I think

470
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: there's a deeper need to do that. There's this weird

471
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 1: thing I was reading about people that they put them

472
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: in a dark room, complete dark room, and then just

473
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: to measure kind of how how long it takes for

474
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: them to go insane. And the people that actually hold

475
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: up are the people that talk about what they're doing that.

476
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting up now, I'm walking over to the wall here,

477
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: and it's just and it's a way to stay so

478
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: you don't lose your mind.

479
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: Really, I feel like, what's interesting about that study, though,

480
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: is I'm like, to volunteer for that study means you

481
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: are insane. I'm like, why would you volunteer for that.

482
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to be a

483
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: guinea pig in that, But I yeah, I talk to myself,

484
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 2: and so sometimes I will in talking to myself, an

485
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: idea sparks that way. But it's like anytime I knew

486
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: I had to like write a set or my five

487
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: minute audition for SNL, the two times I did, I'm like,

488
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 2: just go live your life. Like, truly, I could never

489
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: be like I'm going to sit in an office or

490
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: at a desk or go to a coffee shop and

491
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 2: we're writing characters today. I'm like, it doesn't work that way.

492
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: It occurs to me. I make a note in my phone. Yeah,

493
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: and then and then I can and then I can yes. Yeah,

494
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: I could never be like, hurry, well, funny character go.

495
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, that would never because that's what we're gonna do.

496
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: That way that develops. I sometimes you know a voice

497
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: will come.

498
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: We sound really crazy, Kyle voice.

499
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: Well, I talked. Creative process is what is what I love.

500
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: But it's just how they how they how they develop,

501
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: how they come, and how they sustain. Because it's one

502
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: thing to do something in a line or two line

503
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: or something else, but to tell a little story, to

504
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: have a little skit. And I gotta believe that's some

505
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: of the improv training.

506
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the philosophy, right, And it's where like that philosophy

507
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: comes in, because if you pick a parent teacher conference

508
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: or like the first sketch I ever wrote ever in

509
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: my life ended up being thirsty Cops at S and L.

510
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: But I'd written it just for me originally and for me.

511
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, how you developed that is? Okay, you know,

512
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: a parent teacher conference or a police pulling you over

513
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: for speeding. The way it would traditionally go is these

514
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: are the steps the last for your license and registration.

515
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: And so then you go, okay, what's this unusual person's

516
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: perspective up against what normally happens in this interaction?

517
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: Right?

518
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: And then it's like you have endless ideas in that

519
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: case because you're like in a parent teacher conference, they're

520
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 2: going to talk to you about your son's math grade

521
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: and how he's doing it with math, right, and now

522
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: I might be doing with social studies? Is there anything

523
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: else they might recommend tutors to you? What does that

524
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: exchange look like for a woman who is horny for

525
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: the teacher?

526
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: Like you change the circumstances, which I love. Yeah, yeah,

527
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: so you don't talk about yet the linear it goes

528
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: into something else, which is I mean, that's that's part

529
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: of the fun. So it's very creative. It's as very

530
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: bold too. Can we talk about your commitment before? Just

531
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: how you take these characters and you lean in but

532
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: they stay the characters at least. As another one that's

533
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: a great one, I don't want to just focus on

534
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: thank you, but.

535
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: She's yeah, she that was really.

536
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: To someone that you well.

537
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: Alex English, Gary Richardson and Michael Chay wrote that sketch,

538
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: which was a gift to me. And then it was

539
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: like so cool because then as the week went on,

540
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: I got to be like, let's add this line here,

541
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: let's do the you know, I think she would say this.

542
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: There's like some air here when the waiter says this,

543
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: maybe she would say this, And so it was such

544
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: a collaborative process and also what was really nice for me,

545
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: who has lots of ideas and opinions, it was like

546
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: I surrender you guys write the thing. Because normally on

547
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: any other week, if they had brought me a sketch

548
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: and like a woman orders an extra well done steak

549
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: and is shaking the table, I'd go, that's so fun.

550
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so what else happening?

551
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: But I was like, write the version of this you

552
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: think you want to thank you for the gift. And

553
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful because then I did get to lend

554
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: my voice to it. They brought me the script and

555
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: then the physicality of that was so fun.

556
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: So fat that happened on the moment.

557
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the steak falling that wasn't part of the plan.

558
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Like I love that kind of Yeah, I think too,

559
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: which I shouldn't say this, but I don't love rehearsing,

560
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: which is probably why I love improv. Yeah, I'm like,

561
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: let's rehearse it one time. Yeah, because I want I

562
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: feel like when I over rehearsed, I'm stripping myself of

563
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: some of the fun and presence of of of it

564
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: just being present in it. I don't really want to

565
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: get to a place where I could do the thing

566
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: with my eyes closed and my brain shut off, And

567
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: so it's more fun to feel like some obstacle might

568
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 2: present itself that I have to sort out, or something

569
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: might happen that's not planned. And some of those are

570
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: just the most fun moments, like the audience yelling shit,

571
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: or when Lisa when the steak fell, I was like,

572
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to take a bite of this. I'm supposed

573
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: to have at least cut one piece off to taste this.

574
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: So then I literally put a whole steak in my

575
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: mouth with my finger, grab it and sucked on it. Yeah,

576
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: And it was like this is all because this is

577
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: all circumstantial and that's so fun for me.

578
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: It reminds me because growing up with this now and

579
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: some of the early the early performers Gilda Radner I

580
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: think in particular, would commit to a bit a moment

581
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: like you know and go all all in, you know

582
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, And I think that is

583
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: the hallmark of like someone who's really who loves this,

584
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, someone who's slightly crazy, but

585
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: who is like that is. But it's it's just a testament,

586
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: I think, to a level of commitment and fun and

587
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: enjoyment and enjoy and pleasure and it's just all of

588
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: those things which I think you're which is what you're

589
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: talking about. So anyway, well that's those are so generous.

590
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I I admire you so much because

591
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: improv is something I had. I played it a little

592
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: bit in Portlandia and that was fun with Fred and

593
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Carrey and their fread is unbelievable. My brain would would

594
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: actually work so hard it would actually begin to smoke.

595
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: Smoke it. It should come out of the top of

596
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: my head because the thinking is it's a weird thing

597
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: because you're thinking. It's not intellectual thinking. It's a present, yeah,

598
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: and you want to be so present and you're trying

599
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: to at least I'm trying to. Maybe I'm wrong, but

600
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. Like it's like I'm trying to throw

601
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: a hook ahead and then pull myself forward. But I'm

602
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: always trying to go forward, I mean, and for me

603
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: it takes I'm a buch happier if I'm just kind

604
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: of I know where I am and everything is bad

605
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's another thing. And I actually really like

606
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: it is that your.

607
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like the yes and when you're like,

608
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: how do I move this forward? Because the minute you're like, no,

609
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: this is what it's this is what I've rehearsed, or

610
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,239
Speaker 2: this is what it's supposed to be, you're kind of

611
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: putting pumping the brakes. Like when I'm shooting a movie

612
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: or something or seen in a movie or a TV

613
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: show and the director lets us doesn't call cut at

614
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: the end of the written scene, and now we're sort

615
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: of maybe someone improvises a button which is like one

616
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: x extra line, and then the director hasn't called cut.

617
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, we're still in it, so let's see

618
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: what happens here. That's fun to me. Too, But you

619
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: don't want to be so married to what you planned

620
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: for that you can't really feel what's happening around you,

621
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: respond to what's happening around you, what's happening in real time.

622
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think as a person whose brain goes

623
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: a million miles per minute my brain, it's really nice

624
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: being in improv or being in situations where the unpredictable

625
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: is happening. But I'm supposed to be embodying this character

626
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: because it just requires me to be really present, just

627
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 2: really really present, and really in the room and really

628
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: in the moment. And I think there's something like not

629
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: to be woo woo, But I am a Piscey's meditative

630
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: about it.

631
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. I never thought about

632
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: it as a meditation. But there is something, There is

633
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: a weird zone that you get in that is very comfortable,

634
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: but it doesn't appear to be shouldn't be.

635
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. So I went to USC and I went

636
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: to a track meet. I just this is like seared

637
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: into my mind. I went to attract meet and I

638
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: maybe went to like two or three because I had

639
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: a friend that ran track and watching one of our

640
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: fastest runners at the school and I in the bleachers

641
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: and I was at the starting line and watching. I

642
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: think was going to go to the Olympics. This is

643
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: incredibly fast young man. Anyway, I just remember being like,

644
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: he is so in the zone, and that makes me

645
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: so excited to see when I'm like, what you're you

646
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: look so focused, but what you're about to do is

647
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: run so fast and like you're right here, but you're

648
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: also going over there really quickly in a second. And

649
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: I like that image of him being in the zone

650
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: is so seared in my mind and I remember feeling

651
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: like just electric watching that and like, oh my goodness,

652
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: a person in the zone. To me, it's so cool.

653
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Speaker 1: You were lucky you were. I love tracking. I love

654
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: watching tracking. Yeah, I mean, and maybe it's because of that,

655
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: because it's you know, sports football. I love football too,

656
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: but it's like you can't really see. Yeah, you know,

657
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: people are locked in, but you can't. But to see

658
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: that what you were talking about is so compelling.

659
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I I really like track. I went to

660
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: the Olympics last year, brag that I did, and I

661
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: went to track and I went to track and field

662
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: events and it was so cool. They're just so I mean,

663
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: all athletes are, but it's it just looks so different

664
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: because for someone running track, in my mind, I'm like, yeah,

665
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: you just are here, but you have to get to

666
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: point B. Started A gotta get to B and you

667
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: are locked in. But it feels like in order to

668
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: really excel and even surprise yourself, you're also so in

669
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: the moment. Maybe you go faster than you did in practice,

670
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: and now you've broken your pr Like they seem like

671
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: they're just like leaning on their training of course, but

672
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: then there's it just requires a different kind of presence

673
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: and an openness to like pushing yourself today. What your

674
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: body is like might be different than it was two

675
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: days ago when you were practicing. And so I just

676
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: I think that's it's so cool and fascinating to me.

677
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: I agree, And I also add one thing I feel,

678
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: which is the sense of relaxation when you watch a runner,

679
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: particularly you know if it's one hundred meters, the absolute

680
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: relaxation of the body, which I think is also in

681
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: what we do. You know what I mean, I mean,

682
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: you going in if you are relaxed and available somehow,

683
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: and I think particularly in emotional scenes, I think going

684
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: in and like if you're thinking yourself, Okay, I've I

685
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: got to get to this emotional place, you know what

686
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean. And you're like, it can it can immediately

687
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: start you to tend.

688
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: Sense up right, and no tears are coming.

689
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: No, no, it doesn't happen. But you if you are

690
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: able to somehow relax or just open or just go,

691
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: whatever's going to come is going to come. It's I

692
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's just more more more powerful, more freeing. We're

693
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: just better in a relaxed state. Yeah, yeah, as creatives.

694
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and justowing yourself to be present. I had an acting

695
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: teacher who said, when people are actually mad, it's not

696
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: as explosive as it's not just like go to explosion.

697
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: You have to get to explosions. She's like, it's like

698
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: a pot boiling and you're trying to keep the lid on.

699
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Like when a person's mad, generally, it's like they're trying

700
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: to keep the lid on. But then it's like it

701
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: bubbles over. If this scene requires you to cry, when

702
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: people are in real life, when you're crying, generally, your instinct,

703
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: for whatever reason is like I don't want to cry.

704
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to cry. I don't want to cry,

705
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 2: not like I need to cry now, and so yeah,

706
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: and so I think that and that sounds like quite contradictory,

707
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: of course. So I think it requires yeah, just being present,

708
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: just being it.

709
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: Many times about being present, and I am one hundred

710
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: percent in agreement. Yeah, it's the birth of everything, do you.

711
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. I took a class in college called the Science

712
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: of Happiness. Ultimately the class all semester. What we learned

713
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: was the happiest people are the people who are able

714
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: to be present. But it's actually really hard to be present.

715
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: So I don't mean to be flippantly be like you

716
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: just got to be pressent.

717
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: You gotta be present.

718
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm often not.

719
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: No, it's something you strive for. And the beauty of

720
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: what we do is it it's kind of like part

721
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: of the job.

722
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it requires it. And I think that's what's

723
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: really nice about it. I always said, like, when I

724
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: was actively doing improv seven days a week, I was

725
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: just a better person, better listener, more adaptable in life.

726
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Will it like go with the flow, less easily frazzled?

727
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: Because I think it just was I was in such

728
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: practice because what improv requires is listening and reacting, being present.

729
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: You're not trying to be funny. The funny comes naturally hopefully.

730
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: Just yeah, with the result of what you're doing.

731
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: Cringe to watch people trying really hard and improv It's like,

732
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: don't just respond truthfully, and it's going to come. Trust

733
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: I say that. I'm like, I keep being like, be present,

734
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: be present. And then in the class I remember just

735
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: that you know that tidbit or if you will, the

736
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: thesis of the class being the happiest people are the

737
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: people who are not focused on the past or are

738
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: focused on the future, but the people who are able

739
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 2: to be president. And I was like, that sounds great.

740
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: Imagine we could do that. Sounds really simple. I would

741
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: love to be able to do that with some form

742
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: of ease.

743
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: Yes, I had this one thing that I wanted to

744
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: ask you, which is completely going we're going for. You said,

745
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: you set your lawn on fire.

746
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember, I said I love fire at the beginning.

747
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you've brought it back. I was playing

748
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: with matches, a too young of an age. I was

749
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: playing with I do like fire. I like fire now

750
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 2: I understand the risk involved with fire in a different way,

751
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: but I was playing with matches. Okay, maybe I was

752
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: like seven in our front lawn in Baltimore County and

753
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: I was playing with the matches. The wind blew again.

754
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm young, I think it's gonna like light me on

755
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: fire if like the flame hits me. But I'm like, hey,

756
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: go now, and as an adult, I'm like, the wind blows,

757
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna blow the flame out. So I dropped the

758
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: match quick. I think, quick, drop the match. Lawn is

759
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: on fire. Little fire, little fire, little baby fire. I

760
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: stroll casually into my home. My siblings are watching me,

761
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: have three older siblings. I go get a little mug

762
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: teacup with some water in it to go outside. They're like,

763
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I don't know. If I

764
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: was like I'm thirsty, I don't know. But then by

765
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: the time I got back outside, I think I was

766
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: getting interrogated by them about why I'm going outside with

767
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: a little mug of cold water. The fire had grown,

768
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: but someone in the neighborhood must have seen said fire.

769
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Shout out to living in a in.

770
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: A neighborhood, neighbor neighbors in.

771
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: Close proximity, nosy neighbors, we love you because you saved

772
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: our community. Because someone called the fire department and they

773
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: came and put the fire out, and then, like I

774
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: don't know, six months later, another neighbor playing with matches,

775
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: let the back there's a there's a hill in our backyard.

776
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: This is townhouses, so shared backyard lit the hill on fire,

777
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: and I think they stomped that out. Oh brave. Yeah,

778
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: I like I like, I like fire. But I recently

779
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: went up to a cabin. There was a fireplace in

780
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: the cabin and I was like, I just I shouldn't

781
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: get involved, right, walk away. Yeah, I walked away and

782
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: I said I shouldn't get involved. I'll find myself having

783
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: too much fun and then the cabin will be on fire.

784
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: And it was fascinating, right, Yeah, it was fascinating. I

785
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: did a similar thing when I grew up. We would

786
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: do it was it would be fall and we would

787
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: do a kind of a clean up of the yard,

788
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, leaves and everything. We'd pilot in the backyard

789
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: in the garden bed, and then we would have a fire.

790
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: You have to call in, of course, ahead of time,

791
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: and you have to say, you know, we're gonna have

792
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: a fire here. It's such a place where it's gonna

793
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: be controlled. But they want to make sure that they

794
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: because there was you know, an inversion thing anyway, blah blah.

795
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: So we always have like fire, which was always really

796
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean so much.

797
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: It's just fascinating. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful and when contained,

798
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: I'm just like, whoa, And.

799
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: I think as a kid, you're like, you recognize that

800
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: this is powerful?

801
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yea thing about it, it's and it's so

802
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: and you kids shouldn't play with matches. I should say that.

803
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: I need to make sure I say that. I'm not

804
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: an advocate for children playing with.

805
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Matches, absolutely, but fire is fast, fire is fascinating, Yeah,

806
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: which is a good reason for adults to keep an

807
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: eye on.

808
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on the kids. They shouldn't play with matches,

809
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: and let's keep our fires contained.

810
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: Yes, very good.

811
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: There you go, and that's our official message. That's what

812
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: we're doing.

813
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: The more, you know, the more we talked about weird

814
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: theater class, okay, which was cool. Yeah, that is possible

815
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to get weird theater class.

816
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: I mean, but too obvious, too obvious, it's too it's

817
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: to what it is. It's so strange, it's so rolling

818
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: around on the floor. It's funny though, I didn't take

819
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: issue with what we were doing in the theater class.

820
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: I just was like, this is not I don't know,

821
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: the body knows. It wasn't even that. I just I

822
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: don't think the professor cared for me. She had an

823
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: idea about me, and she turns.

824
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Out she was wrong, was wrong. But you have a

825
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: sense of people, and you observe highly observing I do.

826
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: It's good and it's bad, a gift and a curse,

827
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 2: but it's.

828
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: Double edged creative because from that comes yeah, comes personality, characters,

829
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: thing you can play with.

830
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't see that in me, but but then

831
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: I was yeah, exactly her lost girlfriend. Yes, I would

832
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: drop her name here to be salacious, but I won't

833
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: good words.

834
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I always loved solation.

835
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: That's a good one. What's your favorite word. I know

836
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: we don't have time for.

837
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: This, but my favorite word. The first one that comes

838
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: to mind is impromptu. But it's not my favorite word.

839
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: But I don't know why, as a lover of improv

840
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: I should like that word. But something about impromptu it feels,

841
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: it feels chaotic, it feels the word itself helped pieces together. Impromptu.

842
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: Silacious is a great word.

843
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: Glacious is good my favorite is.

844
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: Vehemently, vehemently.

845
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: You know, I just asked you what your favorite words,

846
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: so you would ask me mine.

847
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I didn't pick up fast enough.

848
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I am not a good improver. I didn't say yes,

849
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and what is your favorite word? Please tell us what

850
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: did you do this weekend?

851
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: Just because what you ask me because was really cool.

852
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: Of the day. Yes, I need to talk to you

853
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: about something, okay, because you know many of our crew here. Yes,

854
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: they're so quiet, and they're super quiet.

855
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: They're so quiet, they're a little nostril and laughed. Scared guys.

856
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: We don't bite, we don't bite.

857
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: But you have a podcast here as well.

858
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: I do. What a joy? Yes, he's looking at me

859
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: like you need to say you like it? No one's there.

860
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: You do you enjoy the process? Is it fun?

861
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: I do? It is. It's fun. It's super fun and

862
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: and it's really lovely to have support in it in

863
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: iHeart genuinely because producing. I have a couple of friends

864
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: who self produced their podcast and I'm like, dang, it's

865
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: a lot of work. I mean, it's a lot of

866
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: work anyway, but imagine self producing. That's God god speed,

867
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 2: and those are those people deserve recognition.

868
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would do it if it

869
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: were self. I mean, they they do make it easier.

870
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: They make it a lot easier. Yeah, I mean I'm

871
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: talking to everyone about everything now. The initial conceit of

872
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: my podcast was talking to dads about their dads, about

873
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: how they are as dads, and then making them give

874
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: me dad advice. But I'm a lot of questions for

875
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: the dads.

876
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: So you said you did not grow up with a

877
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: father presence.

878
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents got divorced when I was a baby,

879
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: and then my dad lived in North Carolina and then

880
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: we lived in Baltimore, so I just was in separation. Yeah.

881
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: Did it come out of curiosity.

882
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: Or again another weird thing came out of one day

883
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: trying to think of a pitch. Like in twenty sixteen,

884
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: for I wanted to do some sort of digital series

885
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: and I was like, let's do his digital series about

886
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: how I have never had a boyfriend. And the network

887
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: I was talking to at the time was like, we

888
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: already have something like that, and I was like, let's

889
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: do a thing. Let's do a thing about how I'm

890
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: first jen and what this versus this? And They're like,

891
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: we already have that, and I was like, okay, let

892
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: me go back and think about something. I was like, oh,

893
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: I know, I don't have a reallyship ship with my dad,

894
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: which does not occur to me. So then I was like,

895
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: let's do a parody of The Bachelor where I get

896
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: to pick a father. I'm like, twenty five men lined

897
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: up and instead of roses, I give them ties.

898
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

899
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, each week someone gets eliminated at

900
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: like not quite the father for me, you know. But

901
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: instead we have the podcasts, which I love. Mister iHeart

902
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: heart is.

903
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: We established established before.

904
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: I love the podcast, and so now I have the podcast,

905
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 2: but now I'm talking to everyone who has a dad,

906
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: which is everyone with their dad, but also now everything

907
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: because the conversations in season one, while I really really

908
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: love them and appreciated every guest being so vulnerable and

909
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: vulnerability is my jam, I was like, let's also have fun.

910
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Let's also like throw some fun in there for everyone

911
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: as well, so they don't feel like they come to

912
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: a therapy session. I'm bye, take care now that that's

913
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: all on the surface and for public consumption, Yeah, have

914
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 2: a good death.

915
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, people now know about you, about you? Yeah, we

916
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: didn't want them to know. But I think that's a

917
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: good thing. I think that's a good thing. I think

918
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: that that found you kind of.

919
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: And it's not so like genuinely not so tragic. And

920
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: I am just curious overall about like the endeavor of

921
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 2: of being a parent, because like we're all like, we're

922
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: all just human, and when you're a kid, you might

923
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: not realize your parents are human.

924
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: Right, No, I don't think anything.

925
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: And then like something happens at whatever age where you're like, oh,

926
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: it's just a person had a kid and it didn't

927
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: like the minute they conceived me, did it all of

928
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: a sudden become so wise and so all. You know,

929
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: anyone can have a kid.

930
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: It turns out, yeah, it happens, But it's true. They

931
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: always the funny joke is they you know, they don't

932
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: give you a handbook with this, and.

933
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know if a handbook. Like when you

934
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: I think about some people who I'm like, you're such

935
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: a lovely person and your son has turned out to

936
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: be rotten.

937
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: What happened?

938
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: I go, I guess you only had so much control

939
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: all over this because you're lovely.

940
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. God, I wanted to talk about Maryland crabs too.

941
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, Marilynd crabs, I will say that I got

942
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: Maryland crabs. We have to give them a shout out.

943
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maryland crabs. Yes, I like Dungeoness crabs because I'm

944
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: from the other side of the coast.

945
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 2: But I love crabs. I love to eat them.

946
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, So it's like.

947
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: Do I love crabs or do I love to eat them? Yes,

948
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: I guess it's love to eat. The crabs would be

949
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: mad as heck to hear me say I love them

950
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: like I.

951
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Need to eat eat And there you have it. All right,

952
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little break and when we come back,

953
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna play a fun game. Okay, I hope you're

954
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: up for this. This is gonna be this is gonna

955
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: be great.

956
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm excited, Okay, I look scared of I'm excited.

957
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: We're back. And this is a segment that designed designed

958
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: for you. Thank you, perfectly honored, you look great, thank you.

959
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: It's called flustered FaceTime farewells because I know you you're

960
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: not You're good at goodbyes getting out yes, which is

961
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: really fast, and you also have to FaceTime. So so

962
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: we're in strange places and we're picking up a fit,

963
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: you know, like, so we're at whatever we're doing and

964
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: someone calls us face times us and we pick up

965
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: We actually do pick up the face time, and and

966
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: now we have to use our tremendous improv skills to

967
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: guess what the other person is where they are basically Okay,

968
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: so I'm going to start Okay, okay, oh that's the bill. Hello, Okay,

969
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: here this is.

970
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: For you, Kyle. Are you at a soup kitchen?

971
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Okay? Close, close, Kyle? How was school today, lunch lady?

972
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: And you're feeding the kids lunch right now?

973
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: And that was very good? Yes, yes, I was a

974
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: lunch lady. Scooping mashed potatoes hard hard to get. I

975
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: mean I guess I could have plopped them better.

976
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean no, you did a great job.

977
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: Okay. And then and then it's fifth fifth grader, so

978
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I tried to get fifth grade hard.

979
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: Fifth is really tough, right, you would have had to

980
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: cheat it and been like, oh, how.

981
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Didn't you guys fifth grade history today?

982
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: But then you would have given it away. Yeah, uh,

983
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: friendly skies.

984
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: Today, you're a pilot. You're flying your You're pilot.

985
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: All these passengers. It's a you guys, this is a

986
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: completely flu full.

987
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: Flyg Okay, so you're flying us to Orlando. No, we're

988
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: you're a pilot.

989
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: This this is new. This is new for me.

990
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Oh so your first I have to go because this

991
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: is my your first time, Yes, this is your first

992
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: time piloting flying. Oh my god, I am terrible at

993
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: this game.

994
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: No, you're so good in the middle of flying a

995
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: commercial plane for the first time.

996
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh yeah, well that was you were It was

997
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: perfect killed the first time that I'm doing this.

998
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: Did I say first time?

999
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: No? You said you said this is my first time

1000
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: doing well. Yes, but I said, that's all right. I

1001
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: need all the help I can get you.

1002
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: You can't say the answer in the question.

1003
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I have to kind of change my

1004
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: position here.

1005
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: You're sick. Okay, you're getting a colonoscopy.

1006
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: I didn't even have to you know what I was

1007
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna do. I was gonna say, no, mystery of life.

1008
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: You're so good.

1009
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're so good. You're so good A partner.

1010
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: As soon as you tutored that thing like he's getting

1011
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: his booty dug a physical.

1012
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm a physical acting you have physical comedy.

1013
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: Gown you guys also did a great job with the props.

1014
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: Give it up to This is a good gown. Yes,

1015
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about my other one. Okay, all right, okay, okay,

1016
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: you're yes. Are you taking a hearing test?

1017
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Did you? Yes?

1018
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: No?

1019
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1020
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: It's one of the things that my child hearing test.

1021
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: So that was me guessing. I don't think I've ever

1022
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: taken a test really, and I should not be able

1023
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: to have a driver's license in that case.

1024
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: No, it was the scariest thing because then you have

1025
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: to they go and you have to raise a finger

1026
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: if you heard it. Literally, never had to do that.

1027
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: Never had to do it.

1028
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: You're hearing how it works? I just I just hurt

1029
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: your teeth getting races time. Yes, okay, take that off.

1030
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: I can't even that's terrible. No, you're killing me. Oh

1031
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: my god, ladies and gentlemen. Not a dribble of spit,

1032
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: My god, this is class. Not a dribble of I

1033
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: like it.

1034
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Okayunbelievable.

1035
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: All right, okay, okay, here we are, all right, all right,

1036
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: let me catch you.

1037
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: You are you're crabbing, You're you're getting crabs.

1038
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this says, where we're down here, Marvin Perkins, we're trapping. Uh,

1039
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: we got one.

1040
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: You're fishing big water, wet. I don't know, wrestling gater.

1041
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Gaters in the Everglades. They're in the Everglades. They're they're

1042
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: taking over. They are apple. Yes, catching snakes, Yes, catching snakes.

1043
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Fifteen seconds long gone.

1044
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: How was that Adam reference? I mean Adam and.

1045
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: Eve reference honestly helped me more than anything else that

1046
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: was happening.

1047
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that can be trying to catch snake.

1048
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: I know, and what I don't really have this is

1049
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: this the right thing for a snake? I don't know.

1050
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: See, that's what it is.

1051
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: You said, you went to you said the crab. It's

1052
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: like you're getting catching crab in the crab neck.

1053
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: I was like, and you remember how I said that

1054
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: was fun for you guys.

1055
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know nothing about that.

1056
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: I just like to eat them.

1057
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: That was so fun. Thank you, Thank you for playing.

1058
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm sweating, yeah, Astel, Yeah, yeah, this is what happens.

1059
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: This is what I'm happening to the stuff and.

1060
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: Say yes and yeah yeah, okay, let's roll our sleeves up.

1061
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Okay, this is good, this is good.

1062
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: This is good. We've got to work out in.

1063
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I think so too. Oh my goodness, this has been

1064
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: really fun.

1065
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: It's been so fun. Thank you for having me.

1066
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you agreed to come. Thank you very much.

1067
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Fascinating person. You got something happening here.

1068
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 2: Podcast is going, Podcast is happening.

1069
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1070
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm in Mindy Kaling's nsf W for Hulu, which comes

1071
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: out at some point, certainly this year.

1072
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: Okay, certainly brilliant, Yes, brilliant actress and.

1073
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: She's great, and I'm acting opposite Nicholas Dubernet, who is

1074
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: pure joy delight, great talent, and that whole experience was amazing.

1075
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: Little Brother for Netflix with Johnson and Eric Andre. Very

1076
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: excited about that.

1077
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, Yeah, but I don't know anything

1078
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: about it. You know what his persona versus what.

1079
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, he's amazing. I love it.

1080
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: It was so funny here and then he scares me.

1081
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Speaker 2: Yes, as he should. As he should. There's always a

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Speaker 2: twist with Eric. Oh there is something else, but I

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Speaker 2: can't even say. But not because I signed an NDA.

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Speaker 2: It's prettmature.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it hasn't even drive before. It's real.

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Speaker 2: The Internet. That's a mystery. Thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 2: having me. It's so fun.

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Speaker 1: Pleasure, all right, that's what we have today on our show.

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Speaker 1: Did we figure out what we're doing? No, we didn't

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Speaker 1: really figure out what we're even doing?

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Speaker 2: What are we even doing? We're fing around? That's what

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Speaker 2: we're doing here. Is not just on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Generally speaking, you're just it's play solid, let's.

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Speaker 2: Play, going with the flow. We ask ourselves what are

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Speaker 2: we even doing? Because it's unclear, remains unclear, which is

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Speaker 2: messing around?

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have said it better? Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, pleasure. Okay.

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Speaker 1: What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia

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Speaker 1: and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle

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Speaker 1: McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture productionists Yay,

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Speaker 1: featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For

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Speaker 1: more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and

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Speaker 1: TikTok at wawed with Kyle. Please rate, review, and subscribe

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