1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:31,239 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. 2 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:33,678 Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in 3 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,399 Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches 4 00:00:36,439 --> 00:00:37,719 Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history. 5 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, 6 00:00:39,679 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: Mike Raybel. 7 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 8 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 9 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 10 00:00:47,918 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 4: coy Or. 11 00:00:48,278 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 3: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 12 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,119 Speaker 3: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 13 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,999 Speaker 4: Good to be home. Good to see you guys. 14 00:00:55,759 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 2: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 15 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 4: Happy New Year. Before I start, you know, I just 16 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:07,758 Speaker 4: found out, you know, what's going on in the city 17 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:09,879 Speaker 4: of New Orleans. Just want to make sure that you 18 00:01:10,119 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 4: offer condolences to all those that are affected. Obviously, it's 19 00:01:13,479 --> 00:01:17,359 Speaker 4: a very unfortunate thing that happened. Kind of puts things 20 00:01:17,399 --> 00:01:19,719 Speaker 4: in perspective, you know, lives being changed like that, and 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,238 Speaker 4: just want them to know that both me, the team 22 00:01:23,279 --> 00:01:28,318 Speaker 4: and the organization definitely offer our heartfelt condolences. All right, 23 00:01:28,839 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 4: So you know, this game looks the last game of 24 00:01:31,079 --> 00:01:33,078 Speaker 4: the season, and you know the guy. You know. My 25 00:01:33,119 --> 00:01:35,598 Speaker 4: message to the guys was we want to finish off 26 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 4: the season strong, you know, and try to build some momentum. 27 00:01:38,119 --> 00:01:41,439 Speaker 4: Uh going into the off season. I would say, yeah, 28 00:01:42,039 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: the guys are, they're ready to go. They're ready to go. 29 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:47,959 Speaker 4: We'll see how practice goes today. Obviously, I'm sure the 30 00:01:48,039 --> 00:01:49,439 Speaker 4: question will come up, you know, do you want to 31 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 4: see certain players like absolutely, And I would say players 32 00:01:52,279 --> 00:01:54,239 Speaker 4: are healthy, they'll be ready to go now as far 33 00:01:54,279 --> 00:01:56,359 Speaker 4: as you know how much they play, how much they 34 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 4: don't like. I've never been a part of a team 35 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,079 Speaker 4: as a player or as a coach going into a 36 00:02:01,119 --> 00:02:02,759 Speaker 4: game not wanting to win, and it's not going to 37 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:05,879 Speaker 4: change today. So uh, that's that's my message to the team. 38 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:08,599 Speaker 1: Prob what can you tell us about the conditions Drake? 39 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 2: And also you expect him to start up. 40 00:02:11,959 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 4: You're going to talk to Drake here in the second. 41 00:02:13,918 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: Drake's healthy, he'll be up practice today and we'll see 42 00:02:15,959 --> 00:02:21,999 Speaker 4: how it goes this week. Another guy who had left, 43 00:02:23,279 --> 00:02:25,038 Speaker 4: he's still in the protocol. So I'm not gonna I 44 00:02:25,079 --> 00:02:28,198 Speaker 4: don't want to get too far down that line. 45 00:02:28,279 --> 00:02:30,719 Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes this week, right, to Drake 46 00:02:30,918 --> 00:02:34,398 Speaker 1: what factors will be a play when deciding whether he 47 00:02:34,519 --> 00:02:35,159 Speaker 1: starts Sunday. 48 00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:37,038 Speaker 4: Yeah, my thing, you know if you talk to Drake, 49 00:02:37,079 --> 00:02:39,279 Speaker 4: which you will hear soon, but he's a competitor, he 50 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:42,478 Speaker 4: wants to play, and look, he's still developing, so he'll 51 00:02:42,519 --> 00:02:42,999 Speaker 4: be ready to go. 52 00:02:43,159 --> 00:02:44,719 Speaker 1: So if he wants to play, will he start? 53 00:02:46,399 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: Drake is our starting quarterback if he's healthy and ready 54 00:02:49,679 --> 00:02:51,198 Speaker 4: to go as we go through this week of practice, 55 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:51,999 Speaker 4: and he'll play. 56 00:02:52,959 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 3: Grog. 57 00:02:53,279 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: You said that you want to make sure that you're 58 00:02:55,119 --> 00:02:57,319 Speaker 1: winning the game, but also mentioned earlier that you want 59 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: young players to get opportunities. How much of an opportunity 60 00:02:59,799 --> 00:03:01,759 Speaker 1: is this game to get those guys more chances? 61 00:03:01,799 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to see how the game goes. Yes, guy, 62 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 4: what went into that decision? Just trying to give a 63 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: veteran player what you've seen over you know it's not 64 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 4: just Yanick, but give him an opportunity to catch on 65 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 4: with the team that will be in the postseason. What 66 00:03:16,839 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: about and I was just saying this about he's did 67 00:03:19,119 --> 00:03:20,879 Speaker 4: a great job. He was great in the meeting rooms, 68 00:03:20,879 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 4: he was you know, great out there in the practice field. 69 00:03:22,959 --> 00:03:25,159 Speaker 4: A veteran that brought a lot to the table and 70 00:03:25,199 --> 00:03:26,358 Speaker 4: wish him nothing but the best. 71 00:03:26,519 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 2: What about Rod For a guy like Drake, you've made 72 00:03:28,839 --> 00:03:31,319 Speaker 2: it this far in the season, there's only one game, 73 00:03:31,359 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 2: But what about the risk of injury now with just 74 00:03:33,119 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: this one game? 75 00:03:34,038 --> 00:03:37,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's any position. I know oftentimes 76 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 4: we focus on the quarterback spot, but that's part of 77 00:03:39,119 --> 00:03:40,439 Speaker 4: playing football is. 78 00:03:42,159 --> 00:03:45,799 Speaker 3: Saying that the team, if you weren't really shipping over 79 00:03:45,839 --> 00:03:47,639 Speaker 3: here than. 80 00:03:47,639 --> 00:03:51,439 Speaker 4: Everyone else the team. Look the team. Everyone that's healthy 81 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:53,519 Speaker 4: will be ready to play and are expected to play. 82 00:03:54,839 --> 00:03:56,199 Speaker 1: You know what, I think it was one of the 83 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:59,879 Speaker 1: drafts to the idea of su did you getting some time? 84 00:04:02,279 --> 00:04:04,238 Speaker 1: I know you know what happening with Kobe. 85 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:04,079 Speaker 3: But. 86 00:04:06,439 --> 00:04:09,159 Speaker 4: I would say it's still all up in there, all 87 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:12,199 Speaker 4: three quarterbacks as we've carried two, and the emergency quarterback 88 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:12,919 Speaker 4: will be ready to go. 89 00:04:13,559 --> 00:04:16,239 Speaker 1: You what do you see from since you got in 90 00:04:16,318 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: the building and orderly made. 91 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: To Yeah, just you know, I think you know, his 92 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 4: ability to read coverages has definitely improved. Look, he has 93 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: all the physical tools. I would say the commander of 94 00:04:27,359 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 4: the huddle has also improved, and he's done a good 95 00:04:29,159 --> 00:04:32,398 Speaker 4: job on the show teams throughout the week. So you 96 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: talk about laying a foundation. 97 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: Which portions of. 98 00:04:35,879 --> 00:04:40,519 Speaker 3: The foundation do you feel our most solidly laid so 99 00:04:40,599 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: far in terms of from the last January later. 100 00:04:45,119 --> 00:04:46,519 Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into, like, you know, the 101 00:04:46,558 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: different position groups, but I would think that we offer 102 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 4: I mean cultural yeah, yeah, going back to look, these 103 00:04:53,558 --> 00:04:55,199 Speaker 4: guys have come in here every week, and I know 104 00:04:55,239 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 4: our record is what it is, but they come in 105 00:04:56,799 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: here every single week during a hard season, ready to work, 106 00:04:59,799 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 4: going out there trying to get better. And I think 107 00:05:01,159 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 4: that's huge. That's part of it. 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 3: What if you've learned about Drake to this point and 109 00:05:07,678 --> 00:05:08,318 Speaker 3: what more. 110 00:05:08,159 --> 00:05:11,199 Speaker 4: Could you learn from I feel like we you know, 111 00:05:11,239 --> 00:05:13,518 Speaker 4: we talk about this often. I would just say his 112 00:05:13,599 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 4: ability to change the page and learn from his mistakes. 113 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: Any reflections on this being the last week of the 114 00:05:18,919 --> 00:05:21,398 Speaker 2: season and just what this journey has been like for 115 00:05:21,479 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: you so far. 116 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:24,198 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's important to remember where you are 117 00:05:24,239 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 4: in the journey and you know, and no one's happy 118 00:05:27,479 --> 00:05:29,879 Speaker 4: with our record or anything like that, but understanding where 119 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:31,399 Speaker 4: you are and the journey is definitely important. 120 00:05:31,919 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: Better a coach are you today? 121 00:05:34,479 --> 00:05:37,238 Speaker 3: If you work for the time that you. 122 00:05:37,799 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: Do this process for me? Like you know, first year 123 00:05:40,558 --> 00:05:42,518 Speaker 4: doing anything, they're going to be growing pains and things 124 00:05:42,558 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: like that, and you have to you have to learn 125 00:05:43,958 --> 00:05:46,999 Speaker 4: from those mistakes and move forward and do the things 126 00:05:46,999 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: that you did well early in this season and carry 127 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: them over to the next season. 128 00:05:49,799 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: I Stan Campbell before when doing thing about the blob seas. 129 00:05:53,078 --> 00:05:55,079 Speaker 1: Time to see you here first year. What stands out 130 00:05:55,119 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: to you about how the people to. 131 00:05:56,359 --> 00:05:58,878 Speaker 4: Chraines have Well, you know it takes time, but I 132 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:00,639 Speaker 4: would say, you know, you look at those guys now, 133 00:06:00,719 --> 00:06:02,999 Speaker 4: both from a roster and a coaching perspective, like from 134 00:06:03,078 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 4: his first year to a second year to his third year, 135 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,998 Speaker 4: all those things there was change and you know he 136 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: got it nailed down and those guys are playing well. 137 00:06:08,799 --> 00:06:11,079 Speaker 4: And you know there are other examples about that. You know, 138 00:06:11,438 --> 00:06:14,199 Speaker 4: other examples, but you know, right now, I'm focused on 139 00:06:14,239 --> 00:06:15,959 Speaker 4: the bills for the most part, and that's what we're 140 00:06:15,958 --> 00:06:18,439 Speaker 4: gonna do. What you said earlier that uh, you know, 141 00:06:18,519 --> 00:06:20,238 Speaker 4: we'll love to see how the week goes. Pretty making 142 00:06:20,239 --> 00:06:22,639 Speaker 4: a decisions about forty dollars. We will have to happen 143 00:06:22,719 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 4: during the week to change anything. 144 00:06:24,999 --> 00:06:26,078 Speaker 1: From what you've done in the past. 145 00:06:26,359 --> 00:06:28,158 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's been this way the whole year. 146 00:06:28,239 --> 00:06:29,319 Speaker 4: You know, you go out there and have a good 147 00:06:29,318 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 4: week of practice, always competing, and you have an opportunity 148 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,639 Speaker 4: in the game. And it's not about how many snaps 149 00:06:33,678 --> 00:06:35,238 Speaker 4: you play a game. To me, it's the value and 150 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,399 Speaker 4: the quality of those snaps that are the most important thing. 151 00:06:37,399 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: As we evaluate what have you learned about yourself this year? 152 00:06:41,999 --> 00:06:46,878 Speaker 4: Be as serious. This is the same question, you know, 153 00:06:46,999 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: just being resilient. You know, just trying to be resilient 154 00:06:49,119 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: hasn't gone the way that any of us have wanted 155 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 4: to go. And it's a huge, huge, huge piece of it. 156 00:06:54,318 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: You know, Steve Jobs, I think you know you had 157 00:06:56,159 --> 00:06:59,079 Speaker 4: a quote where you have winning seasons or winning years 158 00:06:59,078 --> 00:07:00,999 Speaker 4: and then you have character building years, and this has 159 00:07:01,039 --> 00:07:04,759 Speaker 4: been one of those character building years that I'll always remember. 160 00:07:04,958 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 1: And you said, I'm sorry that you hear the thing 161 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:09,999 Speaker 1: that they're some of the chance. Does that affect you? 162 00:07:10,039 --> 00:07:11,839 Speaker 4: No? No, For me, it's all about the guys in 163 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:14,519 Speaker 4: the locker room. And look, they're disappointed in the record. 164 00:07:14,679 --> 00:07:17,159 Speaker 4: I understand that. And look, even with you guys in 165 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,759 Speaker 4: the media, I understand what your job is and that's okay. 166 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:21,439 Speaker 4: My thing is it's always about the team and it's 167 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 4: about winning football games. Were you concerned or worried about 168 00:07:24,679 --> 00:07:26,919 Speaker 4: that this could be your last game on Sundays? For me, 169 00:07:26,958 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 4: it's all about just focusing on the Bills, trying to 170 00:07:28,679 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 4: win that game or if you. 171 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 2: Have to do all the bolls are considering you played 172 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:32,479 Speaker 2: them just. 173 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:32,999 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago. 174 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:36,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, you always want to prepare as 175 00:07:36,559 --> 00:07:38,519 Speaker 4: if it's the first time you played them, Like we 176 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:40,359 Speaker 4: know those guys, and you know, you go back and 177 00:07:40,359 --> 00:07:42,439 Speaker 4: look at that game the first half versus the second half, 178 00:07:42,479 --> 00:07:44,278 Speaker 4: and you know, we were in it for quite some 179 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:46,599 Speaker 4: time until the second half. It was just it got 180 00:07:46,599 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 4: out of control. So definitely still doing all of our homework. 181 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:51,919 Speaker 4: We're still game planning, approaching it like a like a 182 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:52,439 Speaker 4: normal week. 183 00:07:53,078 --> 00:07:56,079 Speaker 1: Last cool leagues have Elliott already went in ownership, heaving 184 00:07:56,159 --> 00:07:59,719 Speaker 1: input on the approach when it comes to who will 185 00:07:59,719 --> 00:08:00,799 Speaker 1: play Sunday. 186 00:08:01,359 --> 00:08:03,639 Speaker 4: I'm in Look, I'm in constant communication with Elliott. I'm 187 00:08:03,679 --> 00:08:06,279 Speaker 4: in constant communication with ownership. And again, I've never been 188 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,319 Speaker 4: a part of a team as a player or a 189 00:08:08,359 --> 00:08:09,919 Speaker 4: coach where we haven't gone out there and try to 190 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:17,639 Speaker 4: win the game. So it's those conversations haven't happened than 191 00:08:18,319 --> 00:08:21,319 Speaker 4: when you're trying to figure out why things are going around. 192 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:24,039 Speaker 4: How do you parse through what the result of coaching, 193 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:27,759 Speaker 4: player execution, talent. Yeah, that's that's part of it. Like 194 00:08:27,799 --> 00:08:29,919 Speaker 4: you have to evaluate everything. You have to evaluate the 195 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:32,799 Speaker 4: from processing throughout the week. You have to evaluate the coaches. 196 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: I have to evaluate myself and have others evaluate me. 197 00:08:36,239 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: Everyone's under look. When you have a season like this, 198 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:41,078 Speaker 4: you gotta evaluate everything all right, appreciate it happening. 199 00:08:41,078 --> 00:08:41,598 Speaker 3: New Year. 200 00:08:43,479 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 201 00:08:46,319 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: the latest Patriots talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 202 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:52,799 Speaker 2: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 203 00:08:52,799 --> 00:08:54,838 Speaker 2: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 204 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:55,519 Speaker 2: state of the team. 205 00:08:55,599 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: But where the Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one 206 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:01,039 Speaker 3: thing done and let's get it done right and then 207 00:09:01,039 --> 00:09:03,879 Speaker 3: we can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here? 208 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 3: Let's just get one thing done. Let's get one thing 209 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,639 Speaker 3: done right, and then we can move along. That's kind 210 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 3: of my biggest thing. 211 00:09:10,519 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.