1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: All right, welcome into hour two. This is Up on Game. 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: You heard it ste J Huschman's Eyes Plexko Burts. I'm 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington and we will carry you for the next hour. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: You missed anything on our one, that doesn't matter because 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: you can go back and hear it on the podcast. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: Just make sure you search Up on Game wherever it 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: is that you get your podcast from. We are broadcasting 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tyrack dot 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: com will help you get there. 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Podcast on Up on Game presents. Cuffs 22 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: is giving you a spicy takes on what's going down. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 4: You can take the heat like. 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Lebron and now here's Cuffs, the legend. 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: It's gold time. 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Yes, he is Cuffs and he is the legend, and 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: he does do some dude show and. 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: The jig is up Cuffs. What's going on? 29 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: I can already hear. 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: It, Oh man, you know that, I. 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: Can already hear it in your voice. Look, man, the 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: jig is really hovering right now. 33 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: They said it's not they said it's too early for Easter. 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: But Darvin Ham got that egg on his head. Darvin 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: that egg on his head has to go. 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: You know, y'all familiar with Sam Cook, right the legendary scene. Yeah, Cook, 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: Sam Cook told us a change was gonna come, change them. 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: A change is going to come, and a trade is 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: going to come. Arvinham. The Lakers, they've they've given up 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: on the coach man. They've given up on him. They've lost. 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: They're three and ten since winning the n season Tournament 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: in Vegas. 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: I mean, locker roll, was that the was that the 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: season finale to get that that banner going up for 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: for the end season tournament. 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: I mean, what happened? 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: Man? Looking back on it, that might have been the 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: worst thing that could happen to this team because they 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: were popping champagne. They had gogles on greatness. They hung 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: the banner, you know, and stable they did hang. 51 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: The cobe would never allow that, by the way, rolling over. 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: And I honestly feel like all joke aside. Like Darvinham 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: last night at the press conference, the postgame presser, he said, 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm tired of people living and dying with every single 55 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: game we play. This is a marathon. You're you're the 56 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: head coach of the Lakers. You can't say that to 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: the fan base. The fan base has totally they're totally 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: giving up on Darbingham. The fan base. I don't think 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: I know one Laker fan who was in support of him. 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: Right now, they got to blow this up. 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 4: Are you sitting over sitting over there, I wish you 62 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: could see his face right now because he just has 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 4: a lot of things going through his mind. Right now. 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: It's written all over his face, all over his face. 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: I can't even Really It's hard for me to watch 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 5: games because I get frustrated. I get frustrated with like 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: why so and so in the game. Why isn't so 68 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: and so playing? Uh, Like last night against Memphis, we 69 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: in that game, we should win that game. We in 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 5: Memphis shoot over fifty from three point rangs, like Marcus 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: Smart was out there looking like Steph Curry eight for thirteen, 72 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: all right. 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: Like, and I'm saying, I feel I feel bad because 74 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: Lebron and Ad they actually playing really got you got 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: to get Lebron in Ady some help. 76 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 5: Bro. 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, cause. 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: If if and win, they let Ham go, do they 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 5: where where do they go? 80 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: Do they just appoint somebody that's already on the bench. 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: What do they do? Where do they go? 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 3: I would love to see Phil Handy get a shot. 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: Phil Handy has been paying his dudes around the league. 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: He's won championships with Lebron in Cleveland, he won a 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: championship with Kawhi Leonard in Toronto. He's back with the Lakers. 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: He won another championship with Lebron and with the Lakers 87 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: in the bubble, like Phil Handy is the guy, that 88 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: the guy, he is Lebron's guy, Like that's that's Lebron's guy. 89 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: I want to see Phil Handy get a shot. And 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: I know the Laker fans are saying Doc Rivers, but 91 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: I feel like with pretty much the same situation with Darbingham, 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: these these old dinosaur coaches. Get these guys out. 93 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: Here, man, why are you gonna this my man? Mark Jackson, 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: he said, He said, DoD. 95 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: Rivers has has doc been a head coach more than 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: one time? 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: Two times? Yeah? 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Championship with the celt Right, so he's he's been a 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: head coach three times. So do they not go by 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: the rule of if you don't make it work two times, 101 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: generally you're not going to get another job. He's already 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: broke that that rule. I mean, do you think he 103 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: could really become a head coach again? 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean just off of his his his his resume. 105 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: You have championship on your resume, championship on your resume, 106 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: your long time ago. 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: That's a long time. 108 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 5: Are you saying that it's specifically Darvin Ham and not 109 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: the players on the team. 110 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: It's the player, Okay, this guy get in players. 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the players do deserve some blame because. 112 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: Look, we know them, your boy, we know you party 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: with them, and it was had the goggles on and 114 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: was popular champagne bottles with them. 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: He was like some it's gotta be more about some custody. 116 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean said the Jagger. 117 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Is out here's the issue. Guy, the Lakers have too 118 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: many one way players on the roster. Like you got 119 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: Cam Redishoe he could play d but he can't really 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: make open shots. You got Jared Vanderbilt, who's a great 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: defensive player. He moved to puppies, but he doesn't he's 122 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: not gonna give you anything offensively. That's what they're struggling 123 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: with this year. The Lakers are ranked twenty third in 124 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: the league and offensive rating. They're like almost at the 125 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: bottom offensively, and they're in the twenty. I think they're 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: ranked twenty second defensively, So they're struggling on both ends. 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: And I think Ham lost the team the moment he 128 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: benched off the Reeves. That's your third best player. And 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: what level of backtball does your third best player come 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: off the bench? At what level of backtball do you 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: bring the third player? 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: Well, obviously, well obviously they don't think Austin res is 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: the third best player. He's on the bench. 134 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: No Ham thinks that, And I think that's when you 135 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: started to see the tension with the team. Because Lebron 136 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: and a d they are supporters of Arson Reeves. They 137 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: believe in Austin. But when you bench Austin that makes 138 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: God feel like, what are we doing here? You know, like, 139 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: what are we doing here? HANMD? But you saw the 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: body language last night from Lebron to a D in 141 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: the locker room after the game. 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: I didn't. 143 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: They're never going to say it publicly, but it's time 144 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: to make it. It's time to shake things up. Let 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: Field Handy have to game because the Lakers. The Lakers 146 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: played the Clippers Sunday, and the Clippers are going to 147 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: all the Clippers are balling. They won like four or 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: five in a row. The Lakers have lost four in 149 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: a row. So the Clippers are going to the Lakers 150 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: are going to get bloods in Sunday and this's gonna happen. 151 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: The front off is gonna send Arvingham to Bangladesh. I 152 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: think he's going to Bangladesh. 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: So wow, what the league is that? 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: What? 155 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 5: What? 156 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: What is the Bangladash League called? 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: What? 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: That ain't a B C or D league. 159 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: It's the BBL, the bangle of that. 160 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: They played basketball in the eight foot. 161 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: You know what's funny. The Golden State Warriors are in 162 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: the same boat with the Lakers right now. Lebron James, 163 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: Lebron James and Steph Curry. They just as frustrated there. 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: They're experiencing the same frustration right now. Are they trying 165 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: to blow it up? 166 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: Cuff cuff? Any any trades out there that can help 167 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: the Lakers around. I don't know. 168 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I feel like you got to swing for the fences, 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: but you got Lebron a A d. This championship window 170 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: is very small. It's starting to shrink now, Lebron thirty nine. 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, did you just say championship. 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: Me for the fences? You gotta go get. 173 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 6: I remember vividly like it was yesterday with the start 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 6: of the NBA season, and because we had you in 175 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 6: tj or his microphone, y'all always talking about that Lakeer 176 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 6: Tiffrobana is going up, hey Wyker's drum, like. 177 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: I heard you say to see that. They didn't hear that. 178 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 4: We need to go get Trey Young. What are you 179 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: giving up? 180 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: We're giving up everything. Nobody's say but Broun and Ad 181 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: right now. I know Laker fans love Austin Reeves. He's undrafted. 182 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: They feel like they developed him. The fans. It's a 183 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: sentimental thing with Austin. But Austin Reeves can go like 184 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: I love Austin's game. But Austin reeves at the end 185 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: of the day, he's a fourteen to fifteen point per 186 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: game guy. You gotta go out here and make a 187 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: big splash. If that's the Zach Levine, I'll take Zach Levine, 188 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: I'll take the John Ty Murray. Any of those guys 189 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: are a major upgrade. As far as your third start, 190 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: you gotta have a guy that can carry them the load. 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: When Lebron is having an off night or ad don't 192 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: have it going that night, you gotta have a guy 193 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: you can pencil in twenty five thirty back Levigne. Zack 194 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Lavin can give you a thirty forty fifty. 195 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: Ball man, y'all can't just turn y'all back a fifteen 196 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: like that. Last year he was your guy, and now 197 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: you're halfway, not even halfway through this basketball It ain't 198 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: turning the bench under the bus the only asset that 199 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: people would want. If he's the third best playing team, 200 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: Why why cannot Lebron James getting this man on the 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: basketball court? Go to dolphing Hamm. But listen, man, we 202 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 4: need a town on the court. He in the start lineup. Now, Okay, 203 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: I thought Lebron James was a general manager and every everything. 204 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: That's what I hear. That's the word out on the streets, cops. 205 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: If you want somebody to play, you just go up 206 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: stairs and talk to get on the court, get on 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: the phone. 208 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you all example of why these guys 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: have totally turned on him in the locker room. Christian 210 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: Wood right, had been underutilized all year. Last night, Christian Wood, 211 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: the first seven minutes he was in the game, I 212 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: think he had I think the first eight minutes he 213 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 3: was on the floor, he had like seven or eight points, 214 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: hit a couple of shots. Christian Wood is an eighteen 215 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: point per game guy. Last year with Dallas, they're not 216 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 3: utilizing guys like that who can score. You got Jared 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt on the floor, who's giving you nothing offensively, and 218 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: these Torrian Prince gives you nothing. Right now, these guys, 219 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: Torrian Prince Prince is playing thirty minutes a game. He's 220 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: averaging thirty minutes a game. These guys are role players 221 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: who should be coming off the bench. This should be 222 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: your seventh and eighth, ninth guys. 223 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 5: They should be playing fourteen to eighteen minutes a game. 224 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 5: Instead of thirty. 225 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 3: Zach Levine, Zach Levine, Rick Paul. 226 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 6: On the phone, Grig, you know what another about of 227 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: these Lakers, Man, who you got winning the Western Conference. 228 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk about something more important than the Lakers. 229 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 3: The funny thing about the Western Conference right now is 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: actually wide open like it was last year. That's why 231 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: you see the fans panic in the Laker Nation because 232 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: the Phoenix Suns, they're still trying to figure it out. 233 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: The Cliffords looking but you know you got the Memphis grizzy, 234 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: John Moran back in the fold, the Nuggets got the 235 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: best starting five in the Western Conference, and Nuggets looking good. 236 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: I feel like everybody's still trying to figure it out 237 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: if they're still jostling for a position right now. But 238 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: that's why you gotta make this home run. You gotta 239 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: make this. You gotta swing for the fences if you're 240 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: the Lakers, because it is wide open, and like you said, 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: yokis playing good, Murray playing good. Like you just got 242 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: to swing for the fences if the Lakers. 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 6: As soon as I gotta go, nobody really has the 244 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 6: respect for the Denver Nuggets. 245 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: And it was like the same thing last year. Hold 246 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: that thought right there. TJ. You hold that thought right there, Cuffs, 247 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: you hold that thought right there. 248 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break, and then on the 249 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: other side of the break, we're gonna keep talking round ball. 250 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: Because this is quite frankly, one segment of listening to 251 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: Cuffs the Legend. It's not enough talk about the Lakers. 252 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: We simply just not enough. We're gonna take about great. 253 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. That's Cuffs the Legend from 254 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: some dude show. 255 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: That's t J. 256 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: Hitchman's eyes. But I'm LeVar Rington. 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Hearing and Chason. 267 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 4: Listen to This League Uncut with Chris Haynes and Mark 268 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 4: Stein on. 269 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 7: The iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 270 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: What's the difference between you and me? 271 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 5: Huh huh? 272 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Come on, yep, this is up on game. We're live 273 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: from tyrag dot com Studios. 274 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: TJ. 275 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Huchman's a Plexico burs Slavar Arrington cuffs the legend. We're 276 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: gonna keep this thing going now, Fellas they they're they're retiring. 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: A jersey and. 278 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: In the Orlando and the Orlando Magic are well, they're 279 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: honoring what would be considered or perceived to be the 280 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: best player to ever play for the Orlando Magic. Shaquille O'Neil. Thoughts, reactions, 281 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: Did it take too long? Why is this only the 282 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: first jersey retired? Why is this the only first jersey retired? 283 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: At this point in time, Let's talk about this. What 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: you got, Cuffs, Let's let's start with you. I mean, 285 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: what a what an honor? 286 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: Right? 287 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: Quite an honor. I mean, I feel like his fame 288 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: and fortune really really came in La. But you know what, 289 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: him and Penny were quite duo in Orlando. 290 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: H It's it's long over, dude. Like shaq, I think 291 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: sometimes when people think of Shack, they think of La 292 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: Laker Shack right. But one of the most dominant versions 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: of Shaq was the I feel like when he was 294 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: in Orlando, the way he was running the floor. 295 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah he was back then. 296 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 8: He was young, back then, that was skinny Shack, right. 297 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 8: But I feel like they should have been done this. 298 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: Man. I'm glad they actually did this because sometimes we 299 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: see in sports where they wait until it's too late 300 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: until a guy passes away to give them their flowers. 301 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: So I hope Penny Hardaway is at the ceremony, you know. 302 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: I think it'd be great for the organization. But Shaq 303 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: Shack is well deserved. Man. Shack is my god. Man. 304 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: I saw him my in Vegas at the NCS the tournament. 305 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: Shack is a great human being. We see him on 306 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: every commercial imaginable. I was watching TV one night. I've 307 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: seen him on an Epston commercial with the printers. I'm like, Yo, 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Shack is get in the bag Jack from every angle 309 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: and he he has him played basketball. He retired in 310 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: like twenty eleven, and he's getting every endorsement imaginable. 311 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 8: I love it for Shaq. I'm glad the Magic are 312 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 8: probably doing this. 313 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: So, customer, do you think that Shack is the best 314 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: player in the Orlando Magic history. 315 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you got to say so, even though he 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: didn't they never won a championship at the organization. 317 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: But I mean, I mean, statistic, statistically better than Dwight Howard. 318 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: You can't put him in front of Dwhite Howard. Not 319 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 4: not in Orlando, not in Orlando. I don't know, man, 320 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 4: not in Orlando. 321 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 6: How how is it closed three time Defensive Player of 322 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 6: the Year, Dwight Howard, You know it's. 323 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: Orlando Magic player. 324 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: Ever, I'm going with grand Hell No, no, no, no, 325 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: I'm going with Horace Grant. Is Dwight Howard he didn't 326 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: play enough games. I'm going with her grand Nick Anderson, Dennis. 327 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 6: Scott, and I will say Dwight Howard, it's the greatest 328 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 6: is the best player in Orlando Magic. 329 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: Y'are not throwing Tracy McGrady in there. 330 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: He's in there. But I would say Dwight Howard probably 331 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: is the Magic's greatest player. Yeah, him and Shack are 332 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: neck and neck. But Shaq didn't play there that long. 333 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: People forget that I was at the game. 334 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 6: I was at this game, and I believe it was 335 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 6: oh eight o six, game six. Kobe was in the 336 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 6: building in Orlando and they won the championship. Uh versus Orlando. 337 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 6: People forget that Dwight Howard took this team to the 338 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 6: finals and finals. 339 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 8: The great The craziest thing about that is, I remember. 340 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: That so VIVII. I was in Orlando that same that 341 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: same time in Disney World, and like the White Howard 342 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: was so dominant. The White Howard was so dominant when 343 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: he was with the Magic that the Calves, the Cleveland Calve, 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 3: when Brown was there, they were trying to build their 345 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: roster to get through d White Howard. Even forget that 346 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: about the Eastern at one time, you had to go 347 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: through Dwhite Howard to get to the to the NBA 348 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: finals at one time. That's a great comparison with Shack. 349 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: And as far as who's the better Orlando Magic player 350 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: of all time, I just feel like Dwight Howard has 351 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: a bigger body of work than Shack as far as 352 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: being a magic player, because he played with the Magic longer. 353 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 5: Chance No chance, Orlando, Man, why is it do you 354 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 5: believe they retired Shacks Jersey before Dwight Howard? 355 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: Because Shaq is the greatest place because of whose Shack is? 356 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: Because yes, yeah, he was he was there first. 357 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 8: It was nineteen ninety two here, Yeah, but. 358 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: It is he was there first. 359 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: But it's what you just said, the longevity of Dwight 360 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: Howard playing there and what he actually did for the 361 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 5: franchise on the court. 362 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 6: But look at this team that he was playing with. 363 00:18:52,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 6: He was with Raphel Austin Lewis, Page Leave and. 364 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: He took the Yeah, but didn't the Magic go to 365 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 4: the finals. 366 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: With with Shaq Yeah against the Houston Rockets got swept. 367 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean come on now, that come on, that 368 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: was a loaded team. Like that was a loaded team. 369 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 4: The Magic was just a young team. They were young 370 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: and series what I saw that documentary, I didn't. 371 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 6: Realize as a kid of how big those shots were big. 372 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 6: And he missed those two free throws and people are 373 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 6: like still like to announce. 374 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Him like Dwight Howard was never as dominated as Shaquille O'Neill, 375 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: even when Shaquille O'Neill was in Orlando. 376 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 4: I agree with you cannot say that the White as 377 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 4: a better player all time than shaquillo player. We're talking 378 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: about Orlando Magic. He was Yes, No, I'm resisting this. 379 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: I will not accept y'all saying White Howard was was 380 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: was better, the best player in the history overquick was. 381 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: In fact, in fact, I'm putting a fory. I'm putting 382 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: Penny at number two. I'll put the White Howard a three. 383 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: Y'all better stop. 384 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: Something wrong with you. But you know what's wrong with me. 385 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 4: I live in this. 386 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Place called common sense. Is is right down the end 387 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: of the road that y'all can kiss my ass. 388 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 8: But I think that's exactly why you saw a lot 389 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 8: of beef. 390 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: You saw the little beef between Shaq and uh Dwhite 391 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Howard all those years because the White Howard started calling 392 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: himself Superman and Shaq did not. 393 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: Because Shaq was already Superman. The is on his arm, 394 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: it was on his cards. Everybody knew that. 395 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 6: Also for Shack, I also recalled Dwhite Howard in the 396 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 6: dunk contest, putting the cape on. 397 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: He did you can't do that, and didn't even make you. 398 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 4: You can't do that. You can't do that. He made 399 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 4: the ball, he didn't even dunk the ball, and everybody 400 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: was all on and you know, come on, you can't 401 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 4: do that. 402 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna call myself superman when somebody else is 403 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 5: already That's what you do. 404 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: That I wouldn't. 405 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know. 406 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: That's what the me was over. But Dwight Howard is 407 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 4: a different dude. We all know that, My greatness, t J. 408 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 8: You panteen man right now, right. 409 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: Superman? He cuss man. Listen, listen, don't let LeVar start 410 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: that man. That's the truth. You know, a superhero that's you. 411 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: Gotta have a dope at superhero name people calling him. 412 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 5: I'll be in the street sometime, br and people will 413 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 5: yell out to me pantee man. 414 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, what is your problem? I mean, everybody 415 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 4: hair that looks like t J. Hushman's odas DUDEJ. 416 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 8: T JJ you got. 417 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 9: Man. 418 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: I see the head and shoulders commercials with Troy p 419 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: And I feel like you should be in those commercial 420 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: man in ad. 421 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking about them on the head and shows. Come, 422 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: That's what I'm talking no doubt I mean. And if 423 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 4: you know what head, head and shoulders. 424 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 6: Are you, if you're listening, we got your number one 425 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: candidate over here. 426 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: Name is TJ. Hushman. 427 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: Zi. 428 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: We all you know what's crazy? Everybody on this right now. 429 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: We're a little older, but we all got our hair though. 430 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we all we all got our hair though, all 431 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 4: of us. 432 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 433 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying I can grow set of head like 434 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 4: it ain't tomorrow. 435 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 9: Whoever's going to bring that deal for TJ. And and 436 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 9: in the shampoo, we can change his superhero name. Know 437 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 9: what I'm saying, Come on, do it. Cuffs like cuffs, 438 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 9: the legend like it there. 439 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: If somebody brings something else that that hits differently than cuffs, 440 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna change it. 441 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: We're speaking into resistance in twenty twenty. TJ. That's all. 442 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: I'm just head and shoulders. Come listen, listen, I played 443 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: with you. He has a wonderful uh head of hell. 444 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: He does pause, you know he does anyway, but he dies. 445 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 4: But I'm sitting there looking at how shining this man? Hey, 446 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: old man, he got a luscious. 447 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 3: Listen, man, real tears of my I got real tears 448 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: of my right now. 449 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 4: Hey man, let's move on, man, let's go bro all crazy. Hey, 450 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, man, man that man say hey, hey 451 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: hey yeah man, but yeah, get the bag, get the 452 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: bag all right. He he comes, We're gonna let you 453 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: go bad. 454 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming there bad And as usual, you 455 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: have delivered the energy and you have delivered the goods. 456 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: We appreciate. 457 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, make sure you check out man Cuffs, the legend. 458 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: He's on ig At Cuffs the legend. He's verified, certified too. 459 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: He's the NBA in Saturday. He's a professional, you know what, 460 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: He's the expert, and he gives you a show. 461 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: Call some dude show. This guy's out there. Man, we appreciate. 462 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 4: I appreciate your baby aciated. All right, that's Cuffs right there. 463 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: On the other side. 464 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna come back to the NFL, but right now 465 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna get our man on the microphone on the 466 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: n I c. 467 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: What's up by low fellas. 468 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 10: We will start with a potential future and certainly past 469 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 10: NFL head coach, and that will be Jim Harbaugh because 470 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 10: today in Houston side of Monday's National Championship game, the 471 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 10: Michigan head coach was asked about his coaching future and 472 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 10: gave the typical Jim Harbaugh type response. 473 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a calendar. I'll gladly talk about the future. 474 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: Uh next week, has I hope to have one? How 475 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: about that? The future? I hope to have one? Yes, 476 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: thank you? 477 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 10: Being no work yet on what the hell that meant? 478 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 4: What does that mean? I don't know. 479 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 10: There is just something spooky and time traveling about it all. 480 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 10: NFL Media reported that the Jacksonville Jaguars are planning to 481 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 10: activate receiver Christian Kirkhoff of injured reserve prior to tomorrow's 482 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 10: regular season finale against the Tennessee Titans. The Jaguars can 483 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 10: clinch the AFC South Championship with the victory. ESPN reports 484 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 10: Baltimore Ravens defensive tackle Michael Pierce has agreed to a 485 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 10: two year, seven point five million dollar extension through twenty 486 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 10: twenty five. The Ravens will host the Steelers today at 487 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 10: four thirty Eastern. Finally, earlier today, you three up on 488 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 10: gamers caused an enormous stir on social media when you 489 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 10: notice that Clemson head football coach Dabo Sweeney showed up 490 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 10: in the stands of their men's basketball game today against 491 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 10: North Carolina with a huge black eye underneath his left eye. Well, 492 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 10: we actually have details about what happened, Allegedly, Reporter David A. 493 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 10: Hood of Tigernet dot Com. 494 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 4: I say he fell down the stairs. I will quote 495 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: the reports. Don't you say it? 496 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 10: He took one to the face playing pick up basketball 497 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 10: and had to get stitches. It was a late night 498 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 10: er visit, but his team won unquote. Now to discuss 499 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 10: and debate the legitimacy of that report. 500 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: Fact to you guys, Thank you Isaac Glowing Kron. That 501 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: was an outstanding trending update. Sir. 502 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: You enjoy the rest of your fear weekend. You are 503 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: the man I love. I don't know what we do 504 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 4: without you. Got man, you know you enjoy your dat Man? 505 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: Who was Dabbo playing with? Where they playing that? 506 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: Hall? 507 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: Hey? Look here, man, do y'all buy that late night? 508 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: They said he had to go late night to go 509 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: get a stitch. 510 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: I don't care if I bought Who you playing with? 511 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: That is that serious? Where they throwing elbows like that? 512 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: Now? 513 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: Why are you showing up to the game with your 514 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 2: face out like that? At the next day or whatever day? 515 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 4: I misstaking. I'm a tough guy. I'm a tough coach. 516 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 4: This is Clemson, this is who I am. 517 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 6: But you know, listen, a lot of people have been 518 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 6: trying to get me to participate in this over forty 519 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: basketball league. Are you out of your damn mind? I'm 520 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 6: not walking on no basketball court and trying to prove 521 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 6: that the tender age of forty six running up and 522 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 6: down the basketball court. 523 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: And if I go in the basketball. 524 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 6: Court right now at forty six, I'm gonna need I'm 525 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 6: probably gonna need Aaron Rodgers doctor because I'm gonna pop something. 526 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: No, it ain't that bad now, I'm well, I've seen 527 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: TJ workout before. He's saying it ain't that bad. This 528 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: dude was doing like one legged squats and all that 529 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: old other stuff. I had to sit down because I 530 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: started sweating and I started feeling. 531 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 4: Like like phantom pains in my joints. 532 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: When I saw him doing these workouts with these young boys, 533 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: I was, I don't understand what what this man is 534 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: doing and why he's trying to prove this to himself 535 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: or to somebody else. 536 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 6: You know, I think last summer was the first time 537 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: that I really realized that I just didn't have it 538 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 6: no more. I took my son out to run routes 539 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 6: with him, and I mean, listen, I put my cleats on, 540 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 6: you know, I went out their gloves on and everything, 541 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 6: and I you know, I take a max split. I'm 542 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 6: a puss fourth on the bottom of the numbers, and 543 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: it's him and his two friends, the quarterback coach up. 544 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 6: They got the high school quarterback out there, and I 545 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 6: won a five yard hits. 546 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 5: Damn, just a hitch, and I tried to stop, Man, 547 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 5: you can still run ahead, and I kept going. That 548 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 5: boy got them breaks from eighteen wheelers down and listen. 549 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: I went from air breaks to this break. And by 550 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 5: the time I stopped, I was about eleven yards. I 551 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 5: was like, well, that's not a hitch, that's a curl. 552 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm done. 553 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 6: I could not stop on a dime. That's when I knew. 554 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 6: I said, yees, especially over I mean and my kid, 555 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 6: and they laughed at me too. 556 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: See, but your son he at that age where oh, man, 557 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: be a good now, so he can really talk that 558 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 5: trash because he's better than you at it now. 559 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he at that age. Got to give it to him. 560 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: We just got to get him too a school where 561 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 4: they're gonna throw him the rock. Oh yeah. TJ Penn steak. 562 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: TJ ain't accepting that, man, Why do you know I'm not, 563 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: don't you why I'm not accepting that? 564 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: Why would you say no like that, I'm just looking 565 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: at our new offensive coordinator. No, just you got to 566 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: see this year's offense this upcoming season, you'll be you'll 567 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: be thoroughly imp the same thing. 568 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: No, it won't be a thing. It can't be. I'm 569 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 4: not gonna. 570 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about school. I know, I 571 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 6: know how sensitive you get. Well, I'll just say that 572 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: you need to get a quarterback. It'd be a better 573 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 6: it'd be a better option, a better option than Michigan State. Well, 574 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 6: we had enough offense to beat them by about forty points. 575 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 4: I said, Well, listen, if you go that new the 576 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: coach in Michigan State, they gonna be all right. 577 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: They're gonna be Oh, now here comes the coastside from 578 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: from the homie from the right. 579 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Michigan State. That's what he wants to 580 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: Michigan State. 581 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 3: He does. 582 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: I'd hate to have to see him play. They're gonna 583 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: be all right. And that quarterback that they had transferring 584 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: to Michigan State. Watch, what do. 585 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 6: You think New Jersey's cold? Wait until you get the 586 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 6: Michigan It's a whole different. 587 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: Breed of weather, you know, because the the the wind, 588 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: like when they say the hawk. I ain't understand that 589 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: until I went into some really really severely cold weather. 590 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: That's why I think we couldn't win in Michigan State, 591 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: like we couldn't win in these lands because it was 592 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: always the last game of the year and it was. 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: Always bone chillingly cold. Like when that hawk comes down. 594 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: The hawk doesn't the hawk doesn't hit your skin and 595 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: stop like, oh my skin is cold. The hawk flies 596 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: straight through your own arm, so you feel the cold 597 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: go through your veins, your muscles, your bone, your bone. 598 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: Marrow, everything that you got, you fill that cold there. 599 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 6: I wore sleeves one time in my college career and 600 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 6: guess where it was at Wisconsin. 601 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: Oh, well, that's a different type of cold. That's the 602 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: last got to come out of the tunnel. And Robert. 603 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: Be what Bubble said, that's all you wear. But that's 604 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 6: where y'all found. I ran down that hill and hit 605 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 6: that tunnel and turn right back around. Y'all used to 606 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 6: that though. 607 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you the coldest cold blooded thing ever 608 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: in the history of history of football. 609 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: And Joe didn't give us heated benches, what so we be. 610 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: We be in Michigan State and they had the little 611 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: the jet the jet heater dips at the end of 612 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: the illuminum, the illumin the blowers. We look at We're 613 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: looking across the way and these dudes just bundled up 614 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: sitting on the white yea on the white benches. 615 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: Were sitting there like this. Cats couldn't take their helmets. 616 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: I like, people like, oh they're tough. Take came it off. 617 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: You got a brick. 618 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 5: You can't function if you cannot get warm when you 619 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: get on that sideline. 620 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: Were sitting there, man like, you're supposed to want to 621 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: get three and out so you can heat up on 622 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: the sideline. 623 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 5: And I'd be ready to burn my helmet putting it 624 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 5: in that thing before I put it school. Now, yeah, 625 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 5: my god, we never he just moved, just move. It 626 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: wasn't that we couldn't have to California play high school 627 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 5: of us having heatd. 628 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: Bitches man, speaking of cold. We're gonna wrap the show up. 629 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna have a little Bears packer talk man Justin Fields. 630 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: We just talked about him earlier. Is this his last 631 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: game in Chicago. We're gonna rap with that. This is 632 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 2: up on game. 633 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 4: That's t J. 634 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: Hitchmansada, that Stretch Armstrong, Pleutch co Burst. 635 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm Lavoy Arrington. This is Fox Sports Radio. 636 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 637 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 638 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 639 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: listen live. 640 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, uh huh yeah, uh huh yeah, come on, 641 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: come on, yeah, it's up on game. 642 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 4: Come on, it's up on game. Come on, it's up 643 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: on game. Yeah yeah yeah. 644 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: I hope y'all enjoyed the show. We hope y'all enjoyed 645 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: the show. Man, Make sure you stay locked in. The 646 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: JKS show is coming on next. That is also known 647 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: as Jonas the Knocks. 648 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 649 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: Before we get up out of here, Man shouts out 650 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: to my man, Patrick shots out the perfect man. 651 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: You guys are our dope, dope show. Show doesn't go 652 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: without you, guys. Uh TJ. 653 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 2: TJ plax before we get up out of here. At 654 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: the Beers the Packers they're on on Sunday. Is this 655 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: Justin Field's last game in Chicago? Well, as a Chicago 656 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: will say, as a Chicago Bear, is this his last game? 657 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: Because I feel like he's played himself into a discussion 658 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 2: of being the guy for Chicago. They just need to 659 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: do more for him. 660 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: But what do you guys, feel about this game with 661 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: the Packers. 662 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 6: I'd like to to finish this on I'm gonna be short. 663 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 6: I believe this will be justin Field's last football game 664 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 6: as the starting quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Not because 665 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 6: he has not been a winning quarterback. I think he's 666 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 6: a great young talent. He will be an exceptional with 667 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 6: another organization and team, because I really believe he has 668 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 6: all the intangibles and all the tools to become one 669 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 6: of the elite quarterbacks in this business. It's just unfortunate 670 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 6: that this organization, the Chicago Bears, and just going there 671 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 6: and play playing there, you know, in the conditions, and 672 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 6: being a quarterback who is able to throw the football 673 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 6: as well as he can, he's unable to do it 674 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 6: one because of the guys around him. That offensive line 675 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 6: has been terrible. It has been one of the worst 676 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 6: offensive lines and all of football for the last you know, 677 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 6: four or five years. And obviously playing in playing in 678 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: Chicago is not easy being a quarterback playing in that 679 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 6: weather and those conditions. So I think this will be 680 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 6: his last game as a quarterback. But wherever he goes 681 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 6: his next stop, he will shine and he will become 682 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: one of the elite quarterbacks in this league. 683 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay, yeah, I believe it's also his last 684 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 5: game in Chicago, just just because you have the number 685 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 5: one pick, and it's a self preservation for the Chicago 686 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 5: Bears front office because everyone assumes Caleb Williams is gonna 687 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: be that guy. If he is and you don't draft him, 688 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 5: you lose your job and you'll never get another one. 689 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: And if you draft him and he isn't, everybody thought 690 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: he was going to be that guy. So we're wrong 691 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: along with everyone else. U. 692 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question. 693 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 6: If the Chicago Bears reach out to Caleb Williams and 694 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 6: they and they tell him pre draft or whenever they 695 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 6: reach out to him, is agent. I don't know if 696 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 6: they have he has agent yet he doesn't that they 697 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 6: are going to draft him with the first pick to 698 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 6: Chicago Bears. Do you think that he stays in school? 699 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 5: No, no, no, I don't believe he stays in school. 700 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 5: I don't believe he would to go to Chicago. I 701 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 5: don't believe he would prefer to go to Chicago. I 702 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 5: know he does not have an agent. 703 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: I do know that. 704 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 5: But everybody assumes Cayler Williams is that guy they got. 705 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 5: They they have no choice but to draft him. If 706 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 5: Justin Fields, if Justin Fields can get to the Atlanta Falcons, 707 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 5: Drake London, Kyle piss B, Jehn Robinson, he has a 708 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 5: chance to be special because he's shown us now this 709 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 5: stretch down the regular season, these last few games that 710 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: he can be a good quarterback. But I believe the 711 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 5: Bears they're somewhat forced into this situation now they actually 712 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 5: thought about it. If you could really get two the 713 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 5: three ones, a two and trade that pick, do you 714 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 5: know what type of team you can build around Justin 715 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 5: Fields if you hit on these picks. Because Justin Fields 716 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 5: is not going to demand top of the market quarterback money. 717 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 6: So I wouldn't because of his players, Yes, because of 718 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: all of that, I mean, but that's just what it is. 719 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 5: But in our lifetime, we have not seen a quarterback 720 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 5: come through and play for the Chicago Bears. That's been 721 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 5: that guy and so is it the quarterback or so, 722 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 5: So it can't be the players constantly. 723 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: The last two pretty good quarterbacks. 724 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: The best quarterback was Ress Grossman because he took him. 725 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 4: To the Super Bowl. Man and and Jimmy Mann played 726 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 4: when we was kids what's my guy that was thrown 727 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 4: to Yes, say, Cutler is the last. 728 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 5: Three quarterbacks in the last thirty years, and so Justin 729 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 5: Fields I believe is going to be okay either way. 730 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 5: I believe it may be best for Justin Fields if 731 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 5: he can get to Atlanta, that may be best for 732 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 5: his career. 733 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think if you want to acquire talent 734 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 6: through the draft and keep Justin Fields as your quarterback, 735 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 6: I don't believe that the Chicago Bears have that much done. 736 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 6: I don't it's time for Justin Fields to go. 737 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: Wow. I feel like there's a slight. 738 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 2: Hope possibly that he actually is back in Chicago as 739 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: their quarterback next year. 740 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want it for him because 741 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 5: I want to see him flurri. What do you do 742 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 5: if you're the Washington Commanders Caleb Williams is from that area. 743 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 5: What do you give up to move to number one 744 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 5: just to secure Williams because they have the second pick? 745 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 5: What did you give up to move up the number one? 746 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 5: I think the whole kitchen sink. So if you're the 747 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 5: Washington Commanders, you give up two ones? 748 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I'm a Chicago Bears. That's what I do. That's 749 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: what I do. 750 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: I would trade that pick because now I'm still getting 751 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: a guy that can help my team at number two. 752 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 5: If the Commanders really want Kaylor Williams, you're bringing a 753 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 5: kid home that grew up in that area. 754 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 4: That's ideal. But Caleb Williams turns out to be that dude. 755 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 5: They better make sure justin Field balls out because the 756 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 5: entire front office Chicago will be done as front office magic. 757 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 4: Football League Magic. Go get you a Kayler Williams man. 758 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 6: Bring them back home and have a winning brand of 759 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 6: football in Chocolate City. 760 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 4: Bring Kaylor Williams home. Magic. That's what they say forever. 761 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: All right, Well, well this is up on Game City, 762 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 2: and I tell you what, it's been a great show. 763 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: Great to see you guys, man. I hope you guys 764 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: enjoyed the show. 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