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Speaker 3: John middlecop Golo Pod fresh off the Keegan Bradley Travelers victory,

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Speaker 3: as well as the new information about liv In the

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Speaker 2: To talk drama on the golf course, which hopefully will

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Speaker 2: be coming to an end. We will get to all

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Speaker 2: talking so much now for two years about livgolf and listen.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating story. I'm kind of ready for it

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Speaker 2: all to be over. Like all I really want as

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Speaker 2: a fan and as a consumer, is to watch everybody

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Speaker 2: play against each other. Right. I want to see Cam Smith,

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Speaker 2: Bryce and DJ and Brooks in events with Rohm, Tony Fenow,

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Speaker 2: Scottie Shuffler, Roy McElroy and Jordan Speith, and not just

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Speaker 2: the four times at the Majors. I don't really care anymore. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I was a big field guy as well as tiger

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Speaker 2: guy it, Phil Disappears whatever. Some of the older guys

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Speaker 2: Ian Poulter, Lee Westwood, Sergio Garcia, I had a couple

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Speaker 2: decades in them. But the young guys, especially Cam Smith, Koepka,

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Speaker 2: DJ Bryson, I miss those guys. And I even think

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Speaker 2: Joaquin Mito Pereira, Carlos Ortiz. It just adds more talent

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Speaker 2: to the tour. And as you saw, like let's face it,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say the tour was like Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Holmes or Enron or Bertie Madoff, but they were running

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Speaker 2: somewhat of a fugazi was This was not going to

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Speaker 2: be able to maintain. They could not keep paying the

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Speaker 2: Brian Harmons of the world, and Zach Blair seems like

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Speaker 2: a good guy. One point eight million dollars do come

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Speaker 2: in second at the Travelers Championship. It was not a

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Speaker 2: very eloquently. The PGA Tour was desperate for money, piff

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Speaker 2: was desperate for a positive image, and maybe this was

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Speaker 2: all just destined to be together. Now, what's going to

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Speaker 2: whole point of this is to get the best players together.

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Speaker 2: It's what LIV attempted to do. Steal all the best players. Well,

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Speaker 2: the PGA Tour tried to fight off. You want your

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Speaker 2: I understood why the international guys didn't give a shit

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Speaker 2: And I just I'm not getting on some moral high horse.

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Speaker 2: full of just people that everyone likes. You need some villains, right.

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Speaker 2: Part of why pro sports, basketball, baseball, and football have

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Speaker 2: at one of those congressional hearings that are the biggest

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Speaker 2: again with my main man, Soable, we got breaking news

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Speaker 2: think he could pretty easily. Now it's it'd be pretty niche.

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Speaker 2: But he runs in these circles, give lessons like day

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Speaker 2: He can articulate it, he can teach it. We've seen

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Speaker 2: him on social media. There is no reason for him

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Speaker 2: just coach up random multi millionaires and billionaires and make

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Speaker 1: I can see it. You get a callaway driver and

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Speaker 1: Stranger things have happened. I think it's the other way

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Speaker 2: What the news broke Monday night. It's you know, about

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Speaker 2: news to kind of put some parameters around this potential

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Speaker 2: merger slash acquisition slash who knows, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Slash whatever it is, don't call it a merger. I

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Speaker 1: guess the one thing that stands out to me, which

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Speaker 1: it later. And once you read the agreement, you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like they keep saying this and it keeps getting out there,

427
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Speaker 2: there are going to be at repercussions for the guys

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Speaker 2: that left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, I think they have to say that

430
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Speaker 1: to placate the current PGA Tour players, the loyalists, those

431
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Speaker 1: who you listen to Monahan and the others with the

432
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Speaker 1: PGA Tour and said hey, I have integrity. I'm not

433
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Speaker 1: going over there. And those that are mad about it

434
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Speaker 1: right now, I don't think they can go to them

435
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, we made it deal with them. So yeah,

436
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: Brooks is just going to get like a twenty thousand

437
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Speaker 1: dollars fine that he's not even gonna pay himself and

438
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Speaker 1: he's gonna be back in January. I don't think they

439
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Speaker 1: can say that right now, but I have a feeling

440
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Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna come down to. You. Look, you're

441
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 1: not going to build a partnership with players from another

442
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Speaker 1: league and bring them in and go, hey, by the way,

443
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: we're now partners, like we're all in this together. We

444
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Speaker 1: love to have you back. Also, you're going to serve

445
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Speaker 1: a two year suspension for what you did. Like thing,

446
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Speaker 1: it's just not happening it.

447
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Speaker 2: Yeah you tell us seventeen million dollars in quarterly increments.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean like be like, no, forget it.

449
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: I just won't play. All that said, when we talk

450
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Speaker 1: about Live going away, I do think that whether it's January,

451
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Speaker 1: whether it's June next year, at some point, Again this

452
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Speaker 1: is all speculation. I do think that Brooks and Cam

453
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Speaker 1: Smith and DJ and whoever else will be playing essentially

454
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Speaker 1: in PGA Tour events. Once again, I agree that everyone

455
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Speaker 1: will be integrated back in to the same society and

456
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: they will all be competing together. Now, there's no secret

457
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Speaker 1: about the fact that there's going to be team events,

458
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: and so whether it's a team aspect, whether it's team events,

459
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Speaker 1: whether it's like Live is now where there's just teams

460
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Speaker 1: within the individual contest, there's going to be a team concept,

461
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Speaker 1: I would say that, and again just a working theory.

462
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Speaker 1: Everyone thinks Live is going away, like Live won't exist.

463
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Speaker 1: What if the teams exist on Live and the individuals

464
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Speaker 1: exist in the PGA Tour And so essentially, let's go

465
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Speaker 1: to the Farmers Insurance Open next January where we've got

466
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Speaker 1: the best of the best competing against each other. It's

467
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Speaker 1: an individual stroke place seventy two hole event, but all

468
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, we've got these four man teams. So

469
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Speaker 1: you and I talked about it before we hit the

470
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Speaker 1: record button on this, but justin Thomas, Jordan Spieth, Ricky Fowler,

471
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Speaker 1: and I don't know Jason Day for lack of a

472
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Speaker 1: better yeah answer, they're a team. They're the cool dudes.

473
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Speaker 1: LLC presented by At and T and Travis Matthew and

474
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: so that's their team name, and yes that will be

475
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Speaker 1: for profit and they will be able to sell merchandise

476
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Speaker 1: and you know and collect on having their own team.

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Speaker 1: They all play very much like Live. They all play

478
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Speaker 1: at Tory Bines. There's a winner, just like we've got

479
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Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour for a million years. But there's

480
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Speaker 1: also a team winner. And maybe the team aspect is

481
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Speaker 1: still Live. Maybe Live is a full just team league.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, again speculation, I have no idea. Maybe

483
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Speaker 1: Live just goes away. But the way Greg Norman was

484
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Speaker 1: talking that, hey there will be a Live, that's sort

485
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Speaker 1: of that's the loophole. That's the loophole I see with

486
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Speaker 1: Live doesn't go away. It continues, but it continues as

487
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Speaker 1: part of the PGA Tour in those team aspects.

488
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Speaker 2: Well, Lives playing this week and I just don't think

489
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Speaker 2: anyone cares so coming down that we won't talk about

490
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Speaker 2: the valhallam that's won't shut up about, which seems like

491
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: a pretty good course looking online. You remember years ago

492
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Speaker 2: when Kyler Murray was drafted by Billy Bean in baseball

493
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Speaker 2: and then he went on to have this incredible football season.

494
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: People like, what's he going to do. It's like, well,

495
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: he's gonna go play football, because you go right to

496
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: the professional level and then golf. There have been some

497
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Speaker 2: positive things that have come out of this whole controversy,

498
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: right and this PGA Tour. You you just send your

499
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Speaker 2: blue your Kyler Murray goes right to the PGA Tour

500
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Speaker 2: and even some of the other guys get to go

501
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Speaker 2: right to the corn ferry and hell, they're rattling off wins.

502
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Speaker 2: I mean the cream is rising. You picked Ludvig this week,

503
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: who was basically the Heisman Trophy elite player in college golf.

504
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: I bet him last week. I bet him again this week.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was off a little bit and was

506
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Speaker 2: t twenty five last week. Listen, I think he's kind

507
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: of got some the burn. Scottie Scheffler. He's going to win.

508
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Speaker 2: We don't know when, but like it could come sooner

509
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Speaker 2: or later. Especially my theory. I I just saw you

510
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: pick him. I didn't read what you said, but a

511
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: lot of these guys got to be kind of running

512
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Speaker 2: on fumes. They've been playing all the year, and he's

513
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: got to be kind of refreshed.

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Speaker 1: So I go back to twenty nineteen. I remember that

515
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Speaker 1: summer we had the big group of college kids who

516
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Speaker 1: came out and turned pro, and we're getting exemptions everywhere

517
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: and more comedianly, yeah, exactly. Almost immediately, Matthew Wolf wins

518
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: the three I'm Open in Minnesota, and then Colin Morikawa

519
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: wins the Barracuda Championship in Reno, and all of a sudden,

520
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: we've got two of these guys like they've won right away.

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Speaker 1: Well is it because they're just that much better than

522
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Speaker 1: everyone else?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as it turns out, Wolf was very

525
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Speaker 1: good for a while, and who knows what he will

526
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Speaker 1: be in the future. Colin Morcawe was on the verge

527
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Speaker 1: of becoming one of the world's best players. Yes, that's

528
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Speaker 1: part of it. You're not going to win these things

529
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Speaker 1: if you're an average player. But I think there's a

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Speaker 1: huge thing too, a huge point to be made that

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Speaker 1: these guys. First of all, the veterans are like running

532
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Speaker 1: on fumes. These guys are you know, guy playing this week,

533
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Speaker 1: they've played eleven weeks in a row or something like.

534
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: These guys are just dying out there at this point, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I just want to go sleep in my

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Speaker 1: own bed. And then the other part of this is

537
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Speaker 1: they are players who are playing as if there's something

538
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Speaker 1: to lose. They're playing with a weight on their shoulder.

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Speaker 1: They're playing with a thought in their mind of if

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Speaker 1: I don't play well this week or next week or

541
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Speaker 1: the week after, I'm gonna lose my job. Like it's

542
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: kind to be that point where like I'm not gonna

543
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Speaker 1: make the playoff, I'm gonna lose my job and lose

544
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Speaker 1: my card. And it's really hard to find success in

545
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: those situations. And so you've got Ludvig Aberg, who's the

546
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Speaker 1: type of player right now that's basically playing with free money.

547
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Speaker 1: He's playing with house money this week, ing goo out

548
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: there and just hammer driver all over the place. It's

549
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: that kind of golf course. We've seen Bryson, Sam Davis,

550
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Speaker 1: Tony Fenow win the last three editions of this event.

551
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Speaker 1: That tells you all you need to know, just guys

552
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: who smash driver and go hit it again, and so

553
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Speaker 1: Aberg can certainly do that. I really like him this week.

554
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Speaker 1: I am very invested, and I think what it does

555
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Speaker 1: when you're not betting a guy who's a Scottie Scheffler

556
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Speaker 1: John Rahm who might be ten to one, twelve to one,

557
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: fifteen to one. What it does is opens up more

558
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: long shots too. So I like, and what I've done

559
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Speaker 1: this week is start the guard with Aberg who's right

560
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: around fifty to one right now, and add a An

561
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Speaker 1: Austin Eckro who's about sixty started at eighty, and then

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Speaker 1: add a few other players down the line. You can

563
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Speaker 1: you can add more long shots. I think if you're

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Speaker 1: betting a guy, if you're betting Scheffler at plus six fifty,

565
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Speaker 1: you can be like, well, I'm also gonna have the

566
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Speaker 1: nine hour rights on long shots too. It's like, now,

567
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work that way. It's math. Math doesn't work.

568
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: But when you're starting the guard at a fifty to one,

569
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Speaker 1: you can add more of those players. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I've done this week.

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Speaker 2: You got you got any other names in the seventy

572
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Speaker 2: eighty one hundred to one that you kind of justin saw?

573
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Speaker 2: Was a name that kind of jumped out to me.

574
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Speaker 2: Carson Carson Young. I've seen Carson Young kind of moving

575
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Speaker 2: up the leaderboards. Is just a longer show.

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Speaker 1: Not a great driver of the golf ball. He does

577
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Speaker 1: his damage more with approach. I'm looking at guys who

578
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: are like top twenty to thirty on the strokes gained

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Speaker 1: off the tea list. I mean, that's true, there's a

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Speaker 1: definite courrend. No, it's like wide open, why do you

581
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Speaker 1: even follow that camera driver? And like, go find it

582
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Speaker 1: and hit it again. And so I remember before the

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Speaker 1: second edition of this event talking to a player, I'm like,

584
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Speaker 1: what did you see last year during the first one.

585
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Speaker 1: He goes, it's the most Brison course we've ever played.

586
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Speaker 1: And so that doesn't take a whole lot of translating.

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Speaker 1: It's it's go out there and smash and go find

588
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Speaker 1: it and hit it again. So some of the big

589
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: hitters that I like this week Taylor Pendrith, who's had

590
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Speaker 1: a pretty terrible season by his standards, only one top

591
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Speaker 1: ten finish, but he was second here last year, was

592
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Speaker 1: tied for the fifty four hole lead. Adam Shank who's

593
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Speaker 1: got a couple of runner up finishes. He's sort of

594
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Speaker 1: this all or nothing type player. It's like last ten starts,

595
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Speaker 1: two runner up finishes, six missed cuts. Hey, but if

596
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Speaker 1: I'm playing him for an outright, I don't really care

597
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Speaker 1: if he this is a cut and also that ceiling

598
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: as well. Callum Taran started playing well last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a little bit of him.

600
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Speaker 1: I mean that those kind of guys, And I mentioned

601
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Speaker 1: Austin that wrote he's a guy that everyone like. Coming

602
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: out of the US Open, finished tenth, went to the

603
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Speaker 1: Travelers last week, finished twenty fourth and made a couple

604
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: of mistakes at the end. But he's a guy that

605
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: played some really good golf right now.

606
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Speaker 2: I did think Wan did on this the Kegan moment

607
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: obviously that greater New England just loves their sports and

608
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: he's always been before I knew that much about him

609
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Speaker 2: as a player, beside kind of the weird stance and

610
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: he was tall, lanky, It just looked different than everyone else.

611
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Speaker 2: It's just the Red Sox had the Patriots obviously buddies

612
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan. He just feels and he's very open

613
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Speaker 2: about how passionate he is about the area, and that felt.

614
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Speaker 2: I mean, he he kind of went a little old school,

615
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Speaker 2: like a Tiger Woods or speeth or Rory just kind

616
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: of kicked everyone's ass start to finish. I mean the

617
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: course was playing easy, but pedaled to the medal. They

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Speaker 2: got a little close on Sunday, but not really. I

619
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Speaker 2: mean it was going to be hard because they weren't

620
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Speaker 2: really doubles out there. I mean, he was making a

621
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Speaker 2: couple of bogies in a row.

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Speaker 1: But you've been.

623
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Speaker 2: Around him for a long time. It really does feel

624
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: these last couple of years he's playing at a pretty

625
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: high level and now he's put himself in position to

626
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Speaker 2: be on this Ryder Cup team.

627
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Speaker 1: He's been really good tee to Green for a long time.

628
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Speaker 1: The knock on Keegan was always that he couldn't make

629
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Speaker 1: putts when it mattered. He was an anchored putter guy

630
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and he had to switch mid

631
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: career and it's taken him a while to get to

632
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: the point where he's at right now. But the putter

633
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: looked really good this past week. And yeah, like you mentioned,

634
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Speaker 1: this is not a guy who's like, oh yeah, I

635
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: grew up in New England like socks cool Atrice. Yeah,

636
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Speaker 1: I haven't followed him in a while, but yeah, I mean,

637
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Speaker 1: if I were a fan of it, it's like, no,

638
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: he's all in. I mean I think we all know

639
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: that that. No, Keegan Bradley, I will tell you that

640
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Speaker 1: I sent him a just a little text message saying

641
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Speaker 1: congratulations on Sunday night, and I got a text message

642
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: back while I was on the air doing my show yesterday.

643
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Speaker 1: Would you like to guess at what the text message back?

644
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Speaker 1: It's the most Keegan Bradley text message ever, which I'm

645
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: sure he said to all three thousand people that texted

646
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: him Sunday night like me and probably just copied pasted,

647
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: But it is a chiff of Tom Brady yelling let's

648
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: go as he runs on the field in Patriots Jersey.

649
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the most Kegan text back to that,

650
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: to that text message that he got, which is, you know,

651
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: it's perfect for him, but look, playing some good golf

652
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: mention of the Ryder Cup. I don't think he's a

653
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: lock yet. I know that's been a main motivation for

654
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: him this year is to get back on that team.

655
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: The way I see it, right now, there's probably good

656
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: fifteen candidates. Yeah, really are the next two months happening?

657
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Harris English goes and wins two events

658
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: in the next two months, Billy Horswell, whoever. All of

659
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh, that changes things. But right

660
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: now I've got about fifteen guys twelve of those fifteen

661
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: are going to make the team. Hegan's seventh on the

662
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: points list. Right now, I would say if it ended

663
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: right now, he makes the team, But who knows what

664
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Speaker 1: happens in the next two months.

665
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Speaker 2: Well, I think what gets tough is guys like you know,

666
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 2: feenw who for his standards kind of been down, and

667
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: guys like Ricky obviously Wyndham Clark's probably on it. But

668
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: Ricky and Kegan Bradley, who have just played well pretty consistently,

669
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: start to finish, you know, and then Keegan now wins

670
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 2: an event Ricky easily could have. It's gonna be hard

671
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: to keep these guys that have a really good season

672
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 2: resume based on these guys with huge names.

673
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson is a massive wild card. You know, they

674
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily put the live players on the team.

675
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: KEPK has probably earned his way onto that team. You

676
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: look at DJ and you know, I don't know, he's

677
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: played the majors, has been okay. I don't really know

678
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: what's going on, like.

679
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: When him and him and Markowell were such a dominant

680
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: team the last time, right exactly, Cam Young is not

681
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: playing well right now.

682
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that if he doesn't turn things around

683
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: in a big way, he's gonna make this team. Sam

684
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: Burtons won the match play. I mean, there's no greater

685
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: barometer of how are you gonna play? Mano Almano at

686
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup.

687
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: Didn't he be.

688
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: You might not make the team. I mean look at

689
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: it like he is one of the questionables right now

690
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: towards the bottom of that roster.

691
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: Do you think it matters? Because the course beinging in

692
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: Europe a little different than if it was an American

693
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: course where we just lean the bombers where you can

694
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: take you're more inclined to like, oh, we're going to

695
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: go Ricky over Tony or you know, something like that.

696
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: Given that it's more of a I don't want to

697
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: say pitching putt, but it's just going to be a

698
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: lot different than a couple of years ago when Tiger

699
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: was the captain. I guess that was a President's Cup

700
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: when they played that in Australia. You know, it's just

701
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: a lot different than what we're used to over here.

702
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: The bombers paradise is, so it's two different questions.

703
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: Do I think it matters as far as the makeup

704
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: of the team, Yes, of course, like you've got to

705
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: have horses for the course. That's I mean, we do

706
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: this every week. We prognosticate based on who fits that

707
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: model of what the course is. That said, is Zach

708
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: Johnson and his cadre of assistance. Are they going to

709
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: base their six wild guard selections on who fits the

710
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: course the best? Not so sure. I think there's a

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: certain arrogance with the US team a little bit that

712
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: they say, you know what, these guys are so good,

713
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: they've had success on every course in the world, it

714
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. To be honest, they're probably not wrong. I mean,

715
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: Tony Fenow plays short golf courses really well, and Sam

716
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: Burns has played well on some shorter golf courses. Like,

717
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't know they're necessarily wrong, but my guess is, yes,

718
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: does it matter of course? Of course? Course fit matters

719
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: when you're playing an event. Are they going to look

720
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: deep into that and take a guy that go ooh,

721
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: that's a little interesting even though this other guy's played better.

722
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Now it's going to be essentially, it's gonna be very

723
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: close to the next six on the points list, and

724
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna go right down there and not upset the

725
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: apple cart too much.

726
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: Well, so we'll have a have a good fourth of July,

727
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: have a good little little breath of now for a

728
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, golf kind of slowing down, and then

729
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: we will we'll lock back in hoy Lake, probably a

730
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: little less a month away. So let's uh, let's let's

731
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: enjoy ourselves. Have a couple of beers on me, not literally,

732
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: because we do.

733
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Speaker 1: That all next week. I can't wait. And by the way,

734
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: I've made some Open Championship bets already, So.

735
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Speaker 2: Just you strow that out quick name on your way out.

736
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Speaker 1: You got it. You got a name Victor Hovland. I

737
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Speaker 1: like it.

738
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Speaker 2: I I peaked at that about a month ago when

739
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Speaker 2: I saw thirty to one. What would you get him at?

740
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Speaker 1: I got a little lesson that. I think he's like

741
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two right now. Yeah, he's like a little

742
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: Cheryl Hatton on there. And some Rickey Fowler. So those

743
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: are three names that I just jumped on early. They

744
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: were up in my bug By book. My book doesn't

745
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: have everything all the time, and it's not normal books

746
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: out in any case, I saw it up there and

747
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta jump on some things. Early.

748
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Speaker 1: I like it.

749
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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon, Thanks, buddy. Let's let's dive into

750
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: a couple quick mailback questions before we get out of here.

751
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: Clayton bagres always been a titleist guy. Should I get

752
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: the link mask or should I wade into the Jones

753
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: bag waters and try it out? Open suggestions. I have

754
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: this tailor made bag which is kind of a thinner,

755
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: skinnier bag, which I used to use it to walk.

756
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: Now I'm more of a pushcart guy. But I really

757
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. I think I just got it on Amazon.

758
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: I forget the exact name of it, but it's a

759
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: newer bag. It's just smaller. I really really like it.

760
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: I've had been a tailor made bag guy, I think

761
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: most of my life. So this is at Golo podfire

762
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: in those DM's easiest way to get owned. The show

763
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: was wondering if you saw the sixty minutes special John

764
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: Wortheme did on sports washing, what are your thoughts. I

765
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: didn't see it. I did not see it. My take

766
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: though on just the overall concept, I understand what people

767
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: are saying because anytime you try to use something to

768
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: normalize who you are, even if you're still doing the

769
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: same shady shit. I think it's harder for me to

770
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: fully get behind that in twenty twenty three when we

771
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: have full access, like we understand where they fall in

772
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: these issues. Now are those issues or all?

773
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: There?

774
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: Are their stances going to change on homosexuality, on killing

775
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: Big Jay journals if they don't like what they're saying,

776
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: you know, if we're gonna We've done business with them

777
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: the entire time while that's gone on. So this is

778
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: where I always get back to. And I'm not saying

779
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: this is right, but our government does not give a shit,

780
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: Like whoever the president is, Republican Democrat, did not care

781
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: about Josh I think a Skogi it might be messing

782
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: up his last name got murdered by what many believe

783
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: was NBS gave the thumbs up, we don't care. We

784
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: do not. I mean, Joe Biden went and met with

785
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: a guy, and it would have been the same for

786
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: it a Republican president. So everyone in media, which they

787
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: are very tired, and I understand. I mean a guy

788
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: got murdered, he said, just just because he didn't have

789
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: a take that they liked. But we do business with them,

790
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: and we did not give a shit. So but everyone

791
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: knows that, Like when you're watching the Saudis, you know

792
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 2: they're involved in shady shit. But they also got us

793
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 2: by the balls because of oil, which is not going

794
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: to change. So the sports washing, they can get involved

795
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: in these sports, whether it be f one, whether it

796
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: be soccer, now being golf, I just don't think that

797
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: changes the fact of the information that we know about them.

798
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: Now they know that as sports fans that we are

799
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: not going to care when we watch. I don't know.

800
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: I think the sports washing thing to me, like I

801
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: know what I'm watching. Maybe I'm more numb to it.

802
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not in positions to try to be morally

803
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: superior about anything, not condoning any of it, Like no

804
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: one condones any of it. I thought Jimmy Dunn, who

805
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: was the leader of this who's financial firm was blown

806
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: up in nine to eleven, lost, I think all of

807
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: his friends and business partners. When he was on the

808
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 2: Golf Channel having a pretty uncomfortable interview about this, said

809
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: that if you can find me the people involved in

810
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, I will kill them myself. And I

811
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: mean I think that goes for most of us. I've

812
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: never really paid attention to played or really knew anybody

813
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: that golfed until COVID hit and you guys did daily

814
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: fantasy golf tournaments. From then on, I've been hooked. I've

815
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: watched and kept up with the storylines. It's such an

816
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: underrated sport. Totally agree. Although I've been following it for

817
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: a while, I still haven't played. And I was wondering

818
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: if you had any advice for beginners, like, do I

819
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: need to buy all new stuff before I even know

820
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: if I'm good? Well, you're not gonna be good. I'll

821
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: promise you that. Do I start with a class or

822
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: something first. I imagine it being a Billy Madison scenario

823
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: where they stick me with a bunch of five year olds.

824
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: Here's what I would probably recommend. Go get a cheap

825
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: set of clubs, depending on you, know, if you're just

826
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: a normal size dude, just go to whatever Dick Sporting

827
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Goods wherever, some local golf shop by you typing into

828
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: Google and get a U set of clubs. Maybe spend

829
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: a couple hundred bucks total on everything, and just go

830
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: to your local driving range and just pound some balls

831
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: and just do that two or three times to just

832
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: see what your swing is like. See how you hit

833
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: the ball, and then maybe you know, reassess, maybe get

834
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: a lesson from an individual. I would probably lean cheap,

835
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: maybe at like that public driving range, see if there's

836
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: someone that teaches and that just can kind of point

837
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: you in the right direction. But I would recommend getting

838
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: a u set of clubs, depending on you know, I

839
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: don't know everyone's financial situation. See if you can find

840
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: for a couple hundred dollars every club from putter to

841
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: drivers to irons, and just see if you can wear

842
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 2: those things out for six months a year hitting balls,

843
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: work on your own swing, what feels comfortable, and maybe,

844
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, if you find the right time, go play

845
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: a cheap public course. You know, I would probably attempt

846
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: if you live in a warmer area, maybe play a

847
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: little later in the afternoon when you can kind of

848
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: play by yourself if you've never played around to golf,

849
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: because it's it'd be a little difficult to play with

850
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: people that know what they're doing, especially if you don't

851
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: know them. Now, if you've got friends that play, that

852
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: might be an easy entry, right. So if you know

853
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: people that play, even if they're decent, if they're friends

854
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: like they can handle you hit it all over the yard.

855
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: You have a couple of beers, have a good time.

856
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna play with random people, you know,

857
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: I would be pretty conscious of the fact that, you know,

858
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: it can be tough to watch if other people know

859
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: what they're doing. So I would start, get some shitty clubs,

860
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: slash U's clubs and just go bank some balls and

861
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: then go from there. Been listening to you since you

862
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: started the Golf Pod and enjoy your insights and updates

863
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: related to golf. Had the pleasure to attend the US

864
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Open at LACC. Was not easy to get to some

865
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: holes several more than five were completely inaccessible. We went Friday,

866
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: left left the eighteenth green with two groups left to play.

867
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: Many of the corporate suites were empty most of the day.

868
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: Not a very diverse crowd, mostly older white males. I

869
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: have not been a Sergio fan, but I have a

870
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: new appreciation after seeing him interact with his group and

871
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: giving a child to sign ball in the seventy No question. Well,

872
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: like I said, the LACC and listen, I'm not trying

873
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: to bash them. I would love another invite. The place

874
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: is pretty sweet. Is not going to be the most

875
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: diverse group of people that are members of the club.

876
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: One the amount of money. If you just google it,

877
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: it'll be like, oh, two hundred and fifty down payment,

878
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: which is a lot of money, but relative to like,

879
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: it's not about the money, It's about the people, you know.

880
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: I mean these are bankers, these are finance people, so

881
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: they all on a fall under the same umbrella. It's

882
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: not easy to get access to that place. And now

883
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: we could argue should it go there? You know, I

884
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: find it cool going to newer places. You know, it's

885
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: easy to go to Pebble Beach right public course, they

886
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: get access to it, put a lot of fans. It's awesome,

887
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: looks sweet, But would it lose some of its lester

888
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: if we played the US Open at Pebble Beach like

889
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: every other year. I thought it was cool, but I

890
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: also I knew what we were getting into. I didn't expect,

891
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, everyone from all over the Los Angeles Greater

892
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: area to have access to getting those gates. It was

893
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: going to be on a very elitist crowd. That's just

894
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: that's a fact where even like the Augusta, you can

895
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: find people that can just get tickets that the access

896
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: to tickets at La Country Club was just going to

897
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: be small. Okay, last question here, just Kyger twenty twenty

898
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: three US Open pot Enjoyed your takes and have a

899
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: few additional thoughts after watching most of the four days

900
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: of the NBC coverage, one US Open should be played

901
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: on public accessible courses. During the broadcast, there was an

902
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: ad at least once an hour encouraging the average golfer

903
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: to join the United States Golf Association if they want

904
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: you to grow the game amongst US pleabs, the usgation

905
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: stays the Open at very least on courses that anyone

906
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: actually have a chance to play. Leave the stuffy country

907
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: club nonsense like what has occurred at LACC this week

908
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: via the GA patrons for the PGA Championship. Not a

909
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: terrible idea. Let me stop really quick though on that sentiment.

910
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: It does limit your ability of where you can go.

911
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: You know, Wingfoot, Oakmont. There are courses that have felt

912
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: pretty solid that have been at country clubs, right and

913
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 2: then there are you know Bethpage Black or Chambers Bay

914
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: or Pebble Beach or Tory Pines that are public golf course.

915
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm not I wouldn't go as far to say don't

916
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: go to a country club, but I do think it

917
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: matters how many people have access to get into the event. Now,

918
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: let's face it, in twenty twenty three, this is not

919
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six. As a television product, the broadcast was terrible.

920
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: I watched a lot of YouTube golf videos, and even

921
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: those low budget outfits can produce shot tracers on nearly

922
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: every shot. Why weren't there more on NBC? And why

923
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: was it possible to see the breaks and contours of

924
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 2: the green? Seems like Legacy Media is following the same

925
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: tower centric broadcast approach as yesteryear. Why can't they show

926
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: us a three D rendering in relation to a particular

927
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: player shot?

928
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: Fuck?

929
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I like where this guy's going. Also, it's about time

930
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: the USGA and golf in general embraced a new breed

931
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: of golf commentators. WRT to the plane circling. Why can't

932
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: they have a dedicated drone coverage each hole? Even at

933
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: fifty dollars an hour for a drone opera, that's like

934
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars per day. Surely they can afford drones

935
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: sophisticated enough to be high above the greens. Here's the

936
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: thing I hate totally. Hear what you're saying. The people

937
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: that run NBC is an old Northeast stiff, right, I

938
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: mean that's who it is. So the no laying up

939
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: got crushed. The guy he's going to be the AD

940
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. Imagine running NBC, right, and then you

941
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: transition to go be the AD at Notre Dame. Like

942
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: what but that talk about a cush job. You just

943
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 2: hire a football coach. Hope the guy wins. Fucking chill

944
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: you think that guy's going to watch women's softball? Give

945
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: me a break to me. I've always viewed this, and listen.

946
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: If there are administrators listening, you don't all fall under

947
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: this umbrella kind of a lazy man's job. And if

948
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 2: you make it, you can make a lot of money

949
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: without doing that much kind of fundraising bsing. It's like

950
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: a private sector politics, but you actually don't have that

951
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: much skin in the game because you don't have anything

952
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: to do with anything. So listen, I it shouldn't be

953
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 2: this complicated. It's like you said, this isn't nineteen ninety six.

954
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: It's the drones, the cameras. This is the US open too.

955
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: It'd be one thing if hey like we're doing a

956
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: YouTube volume classic at TBC Scottsdale. That first year could

957
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: probably be pretty hit or miss. This is NBC. You

958
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: guys have been in the TV business for well before

959
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: I've been alive, and I'm amost forty years old. Like,

960
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: you can't figure this out, And I'm with you on

961
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: the shot tracer. That's just cheap. And I understand, depending

962
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: on who you are, what industry you're in, and what

963
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: business you're in, there are some weird economic times. But

964
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: there's no fucking excuse to not have shot tracers on

965
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: every shot you're going to show on TV at the

966
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: US Open. Like I understand John Deere. If I flip

967
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: on the John Deere or this week the RBC is

968
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: the RBC, the Rocket Mortgage or whatever the tournament in

969
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: Detroit and there's not a shot tracer, I kind of

970
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: get it. It's almost fourth of July. Who's really even

971
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: watching this thing besides some of the US with some

972
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: money on, Like, I understand what I'm getting, But I

973
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: turn on the US Open, I turn on the Masters,

974
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: I turn on you know the players. Like my level

975
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: of expectations, I'm sorry it's a little higher. I'd like

976
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: a shot Tracer when John Rahm or Wyndam Clark, I

977
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: don't know, is teeing off? Is that too much to ask?

978
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: So complete embarrassment NBC. I think sometimes I tend to

979
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 2: automatically hang a left when when most people that talk

980
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: for a living hang right. But this is something I'm

981
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: in complete agreement with. That that was That was a

982
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: low moment. It really was a low moment for NBC.

983
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 2: And the sad part is I don't think they care

984
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: the volume