1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's came this budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: to do nothing spaceports. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and Politics 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: colliding Floomberg Sound On, the Insiders the Influencers insides, I 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: The President has to do exactly what people sent him 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven fm h D two. It's 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: the eve of the first vote in the impeachment inquiry. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: This as the impeachment inquiry enters into a new phase 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: with new testimony, and we've got two all stars legal 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: egals as they call them to all starts here to 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: guide us through the legality of the impeachment inquiry. Adam Goldberg, 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: former White House Special Asociate Council to President Bill Clinton 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: and co founder and partner of the public relations firm 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Trident d MG. And Garrett Ventry, former spokesman to Senator 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee. All that plus 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: the Boeing CEO was confronted on Capitol Hill today in 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: the Senate. I was there and it was wow of hearing. 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: I'll bring you the latest on that, and I check 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: in with Senator Joe Manchin, Democrat from West Virginia. We 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: talk energy, apology policy, coal policy, and his trip to 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. So a lot to get through all of that. 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: Plush Jared Kushner challenging Joe Biden. You don't want to 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: miss that. But before we do, let's first get a 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: check on the headlines from a good friend, Nancy Lions. 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Nancy Thanks. Kevin Well Defying White House orders, an Army 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: officer serving with President Trump's National Security Council has been 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill today testifying to impeachment investigators that he 33 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: twice raised concerns over the President's push to have Ukraine 34 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: investigate Democrats and Joe Biden. In his prepared remarks, Alexander 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: of Vinman, a lieutenant colonel who served in Iraq and 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: later as a diplomat, said he listened to Trump's call 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: with the Ukrainian president and then reported his concerns to 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: the NSC's lead council. Well Democrats have released the text 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: of a resolution that authorizes the next phase of the 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry against President Trump. The eight page resolution calls 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: for open hearings and requires the House Intelligence Committee to 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: submit a report outlining its findings and recommendations. A vote 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: is expected on Thursday. Senate Majority Leader Miss McConnell says 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: he will be paying attention. I think the vote that 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: they're now going to have to open the impeach inquirer 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: will be very interesting. Will all the Democrats vote for it? 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Republicans have complained the impeachment process has been illegitimate and 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: lacking in due process. Boeing's chief executive, Dennis Muhlenberg's testified 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: today before the Senate Commerce Committee and said the seventh 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven MAX has made more than eight hundred test 51 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: fly it's following a series of modifications. Senators question Mihlenberg 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: on the warnings from some engineers. A pointed of potential 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: danger from the design of a new control system for 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the seven three seven MAX, warnings that were ignored. Hillenberg 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: suggested it won't happen again. We know we can improve. 56 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: We encourage our employees to speak up when there are issues, 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: and we respect and accept those inputs. We take action 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: following on those. We have recently made a number of 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: improvements and focus on safety. Hillenberg also described the changes 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: that have been made in the MAX control system one 61 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill or Chapman Bloomberg Radio, and we have an 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: update on Brexit. Prime Minister Bars Johnson is one backing 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: to hold a general election December twelve. It will be 64 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the third time the country has gone to the polls 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: in four and a half years. Well, the Nationals backs 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: are up against the wall tonight as they look to 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: keep their World Series hopes alive in Houston. It'll be 68 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,279 Speaker 1: up to Steven Strasbourg tonight in Game six against the Astros. 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: Justin Verlander and once again, Nationals Park will be open 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: for what fans hope will be two nights of watch parties. 71 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Center Field gates open at six thirty ahead a first 72 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: pitch at eight oh seven this evening and free first come, 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: first served parking will be available in the NATS Geico 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Garage and in Garage C Tickets to the watch party 75 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: are free as well, you just have to go online 76 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: to get them, and Metro has been keeping trains running 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: late from Navy Yard station on away game nights to 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: get fans home from the watch parties. Nathan Hagar, Bloomberg 79 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m HD two. 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: And we learned this afternoon that if the World Series 81 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: does go to Game seven, Nats pitcher Max Scherzer, who 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: has been out with next BASM, says he's good to go. 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: It's time now for the Beltway business report. Here is 84 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Joe Donnaker no records today on Wall Street. The 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: SMP could not repeat in all three averages entered the 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: session a tenth to six tenths of a percent lower 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: the Dow falling nineteen than nazdak S and P three 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: Money managers say investors were unsettled by trade headlines indicating 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: the U. S. And China might not sign a partial 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: trade deal next month after all. Investors are also waiting 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: for what they hope will be a Federal Reserve interest 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: rate cut tomorrow, and there was a flood of earnings 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: numbers to sort through. American Fiser's results both got a 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: boost from their cancer drugs. Beyond meat, shares were butchered 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: down more than investors cashing in after a restriction on 96 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: selling stock lifted Johnson and Johnson says this time there 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: was no asbestos to be found. In fifteen new tests 98 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: from the same container of baby powder the Food and 99 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: Drug Administration had tested it found trace amounts of the 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: cancer causing chemical. They managed to keep the Preakness in Baltimore, 101 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: so now the team that did that will try for 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: the Breeders Cup. The Baltimore Business Journal reports the negotiating 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: team is heading to California for the race this week 104 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: to try to bring the event to Maryland. You're up 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: to date now on business from the Beltway to Baltimore. 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm John Donnagrot, Bloomberg one oh five point seven h 107 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: D two. Thanks Joan Global News twenty four hours a 108 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: day on air and at TikTok Buck on Twitter, powered 109 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: by more than journalists and analyst in more than one countries. 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: On Nancy Lions back to you, Kevin, Thank you, Nancy. 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television Bloomberg Radio. 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm joined by Adam Goldberg, former White House Special Associate 113 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Council to former President Bill Clinton. He's a partner at 114 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: the pr firm tried Ent DMG works with Landy Davis 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: and the like Eleanor McManus. How is everybody at tried Ent. 116 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's great, everybody's doing well, everybody's doing Ready for the Nats? 117 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I am, I'm praying for the Nats. You're praying for 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the Nats. Don't you think God has other things on 119 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: his mind that I can still praise? Well? That okay, 120 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: let's you know, hey, the Nats. Just merit it. I 121 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: feel like that that this show is getting off to 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: a great start. Adam, thank you for being here. Garrett 123 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: Ventury's also here, former spokesman for Senator Chuck Rasley and 124 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: the Senate Judiciary Committee. We're gonna talk what's on your 125 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: scottis radar coming up? Garrett. Okay, so I was on 126 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill earlier today in the Senate. Busy day in 127 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: in the Capitol. I was actually up there for Bloomberg 128 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: Television covering Boeing CEO Dennis Muhlenberg. I mean, that was 129 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: a doozy of a hearing. And we'll talk all about 130 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: what Boeing's plans are regarding the Max seven seven thirty 131 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: seven Max airliners. It's been one year since the since 132 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: the first of the two airplane crashes. Wow, a really 133 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: gripping testimony. There were victims family members in the hearing room. 134 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it was really compelling testimony and a really 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: impactful hearing. We'll dive into that coming up, but we 136 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: gotta start with impeachment because I feel like every show 137 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: now we're starting with the latest of the impeachment. It's 138 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: been just over a month since this impeachment inquiry has started, Garrett. 139 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Today was testimony from Alexander Vindemann. He is the National 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Security Council's director for European Affairs. You testify behind closed doors. 141 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: He's a purple heart veteran, uh and he's just been 142 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: absolutely ripped and the news on the cable news by 143 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: some Republicans and top Oversight Committee Republican Jim Jordan's Republican 144 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: from Ohio Freedom Caucus member. He's been on the program. 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: He said that the Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff has 146 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: been blocking legitimate questions of Vinman, who was an Army 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: officer assigned to the NFC. It got ugly. That's that's 148 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: how today's testimony felt, Garrett. The back and forth pickering 149 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: from the from the partisan attacks on a purple heart veteran. 150 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: It felt ugly, didn't that slide? Echo Congressman or congresswoman 151 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: excuse me Cheney's remarks that you know, we can talk 152 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: about politics appeachment. It really is a political process in 153 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, But he's obviously, you know, served this country 154 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: with with dignity, and so I don't think those type 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: of attacks are are necessarily helpful. Uh. In regards to impeach, 156 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: he said it has been gone for a month. It's 157 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: really started nineteen minutes after the president was sworn into office. 158 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: As you know the Washington Post now famous Washington Post 159 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: article where it's basically said that the time of impeachment 160 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: is calm. You've had Representative Green from the House Democrats 161 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: trying to file articles of impeachment. Um. So they've been 162 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: talking about this for quite some time, and it seems 163 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: like some of the Democrats have an issue with trying 164 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: to accept the results of the election. And the big 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: reason that this political process of impeachment is happening is, 166 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: as Representative Green has said before on multiple cable news outlets, 167 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: say if we don't impeach him, we won't be able 168 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: to beat him. You mentioned Liz Cheney, a Republican from Wyoming. 169 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: House Republican Conference Chairwoman Liz Cheney, she said at the 170 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: House Republican Leadership Weekly news conference today about these attacks 171 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: on this Purple Heart Army that at the National Security Council, 172 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: who now finds himself behind closed doors testifying in the 173 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: impeachment inc She said this quote, I want to say, 174 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: a worried about something else that's been going on, she says. 175 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: She called it shameful, questioning the patriotism, questioning the dedication 176 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: to country of people, to the country of people like 177 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Mr Vinman, Lieutenant Colonel Vinman who will be coming today, 178 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: and others who have testified. We need to show that 179 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: we are better than that as a nation, their patriotism, 180 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: their love of country. We're talking about decorated veterans who 181 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: have served this nation and who have put their lives 182 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: on the line. End quote. And she's been out of Goldberg, 183 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: one of the most ardent supporters of President Trump. I'm 184 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: not sure I really understand though, where all of this 185 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: is headed. I guess tomorrow they're going to have some 186 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: type of vote. The Democrats are that is the first 187 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: is being crafted. Is the first step in the appeachment process. 188 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: But I mean they haven't even brought articles of impeachment 189 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: out formally. Well, and they don't need to, as a 190 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: federal judge Um said the other day, look the importance 191 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: that they don't need articles of impeachment to well, you know, 192 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: they need the articles impeachment, they don't need a resolution 193 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: authorizing tomorrow's investigation. So well, but it's it's good to 194 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: help establish procedures for what essentially going to be the 195 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: open hearings of the Intelligence Committee and then perhaps open 196 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: hearings of the Judiciary Committee. And what they've done is 197 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: essentially the resolution they issued a day that they'll vote 198 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: on tomorrow is essentially establishes the same rules as the 199 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: House had when they impeach President Clinton back in the day. 200 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: So walk us through this. What are the rules? I mean, 201 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: we know obviously they're going to vote on it in 202 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: the House and then a conviction into the Senate, but 203 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: help us educate us. So the rules of the House. 204 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: So they're gonna be public hearings the chairman and the 205 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: ranking member of the Senate first, the House Intelligence Committee 206 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: and the Judiciary Committee. There will be permitted to question 207 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: witnesses far beyond a normal five minute rule, So they'll 208 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: have a total I think of about ninety minutes forty 209 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: five minutes each, and they'll be able to use staff 210 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: to question witnesses, and then the ranking of the minority 211 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: will be able to issue subpoenas if um for for 212 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: depositions and documents if the majority um if if Chiff 213 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: in the House and Intelligence Committee, if Chiff agrees, and 214 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: they can do it. If not, they'll require a full 215 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: committee vote UM. So if they're going to try to 216 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: obstruct with subpoenas, then they won't go through. But if 217 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: they have legitimate witnesses they want to call that the 218 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Democrats otherwise are gonna call. They'll have the ability to 219 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: do that. Let's listen to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, 220 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: Democrat from New York, regarding all this impeachment back and forth. 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: He spoke earlier today. Take a listen. The bottom line 222 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: is that they realize that their defenses are declining, and 223 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: so first it was procedural, and now Speaker Pelosi has 224 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: met their major procedural objections. So they have Chuck Schumer, 225 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Venture. Now here's Leader McConnell. The top Republican take 226 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: listen to him. The action is in the House. Now, 227 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: we'll see whether they can a meet a due process 228 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: standerds fundamental due process standards, and then see what they do. 229 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: I think the vote that they're now going to have 230 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: to open the impatreon choire will be very interesting. I'm 231 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: not I mean, usually Majority Leader McConnell would forecast Garrett 232 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: if there was anything going on behind the scenes, or 233 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: if there was any Republicans breaking from support. I'm not 234 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: hearing that from McConnell land at all. I mean, I 235 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: just don't think that there's gonna be any shenanigans from 236 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: Republicans coming uh once what everyone is largely assuming is 237 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: the impeachment of the House. Yeah, I mean, I don't 238 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get twenty Republicans senators to go to 239 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: remove the press. Let me just hammer you on this, 240 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: because you're an insider and you you worked on on Kavanaugh, 241 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: you were behind the scenes on that. You're not hearing 242 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: any coup for lack of about a political upset, political rumblings. 243 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: There's no private meetings or Tuesday Taco whatever. Remember they 244 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: used to do that. Where was the tortilla coast. There's 245 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: none of that coast coast. Now I want that case. 246 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, they're not doing that on impeachment, right, correct, 247 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: I mean I think there's there's different I mean, there's 248 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: obviously senators that are more vulnerable that I don't want 249 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: to be defending probably some of the actions of the president. 250 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily agree with the process that the 251 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Democrats are putting for it. But no, I mean, you 252 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: get twenty Republican senators, is going to be extremely difficult, 253 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: if not impossible, for for that to happen, especially if 254 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: the president continues to enjoy a strong approval ratings among 255 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Republican base. Susan Collins, what's a tougher vote for her 256 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: wreck Kavanaugh's confirmation or the impeachment. I'm not in a 257 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: position to be able to answer that. I think that 258 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: with with both those votes, something that Senator Collins does 259 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: really well. She always does her homework. I can during 260 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: the Kavanaugh process. I can tell you during the Kavanaugh process, 261 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Susan Collins to the last minute lost me. She also 262 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: did vote just real quick during Bill Clinton. She did 263 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: vote to equip President Clinton back in the nineties. Because 264 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: she does do her homework, yes, and she shows her 265 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: continuing ability to do within her political best interests, which 266 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: in this I had a really good question and then 267 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: I got a dodge, and then I get politics ahead. Well, 268 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a center, which is Senator Collins, just 269 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: vote just based on politics and not substance. But anyway, 270 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: on the twenty vote issue, I would look every news 271 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: outlet that's recorded except for Fox News, and where Republicans 272 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: senators stand right say that privately they abhor what the 273 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: president is done, and so I think the support is 274 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: just like what I think, right, So I think there 275 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: have other sources than that, and we know of senators 276 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: have spoken out against it, but earlier than the twenty vote. 277 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: It's important just to get three. What we need is 278 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: three Republican senators to prevent the case from being dismissed, 279 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: because the White House will be able to submit a 280 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: motion to dismiss before the trial ever. Really exactly, definitely, 281 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: I just want I just my first vote is I 282 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: want three Republican senators. I want a full trial. Want them. 283 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: You can be ardently against it, and you can just say, 284 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: oh we should have this and the on that's certainly 285 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: more likely emotional Dispisch to actually not go. I don't 286 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I think that would be shot. All right, coming up, 287 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: coming up, we're gonna talk policy. Enough of this impeachment stuff. 288 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: Let's take a breather from it. Download the Bloomberg Sound 289 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or 290 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find 291 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: us on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. 292 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: And Kevin Serelli, chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 293 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound 294 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: On with Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five 295 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: points seven f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 296 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. It 297 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: was a busy day for Boeing up on Capitol Hill 298 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: as Boeing CEO Dennis Muhlenberg testify before the Senate Commerce Committee, 299 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: and it was it was a gripping day of testimony. 300 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: He'll be back on Capitol Hill tomorrow this as there 301 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: are new allegations on Boeing seven thirty seven Max Safety 302 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: that we're released by the House Committee the House Transportation 303 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: Committee where he's testifying tomorrow. So it's been one year, 304 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: one year since the first of the two seven thirty 305 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: seven Max airlines went down and more than three people 306 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: lost their lives, and Boeing CEO Dennis Muhlenberg has been 307 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: trying to navigate this. He's faced congressional investigations. He also 308 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: faces the Department of Justice criminal probe into the matter, 309 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: not for him specifically, but as the FEDS are investigating 310 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: this as well. Adam Goldberg's here former White House Special 311 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Associate Council to President Bill Clinton, Garrett Ventry. Also here's 312 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: a former spokesman to Senator Chuck Grassley. Both of you 313 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: have experienced in in these high profile type of CEOs 314 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: coming to Capitol Hill testifying, and I was strung. Well, 315 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: let's start with the domestic politics on this front. What 316 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the questions from lawmakers from Dennis to Dennis Muhlenberg are, 317 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: specifically whether or not they were as transparent with regulators, 318 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: both domestic regulators and international regulators regarding their technology. I 319 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: want to play for you a portion of what Dennis 320 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Muhlenberg had to say about this whole incident being a 321 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: part of his legacy. Take a listen to Dennis Mulenberg 322 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: here is today. I'm still inspired by what Boeing does 323 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: and by the remarkable men and women were committed to 324 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: its outstanding legacy. But these heartbreaking accidents and the memories 325 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: of the lives lost are now part of that legacy. 326 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: It is our solemn duty to learn from them. So Adam, 327 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: on the one hand, he struck a very, very remorseful tone, 328 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: but on the other hand he got into some heated exchanges. 329 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: Take a listen to his exchange with Senator Ted Cruz. 330 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: You're the CEO. The buck stops with you. Did you 331 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: read this document? And how did your team not put 332 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: it in front of you? Run in with their hair 333 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: on fire saying we got a real problem here. How 334 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: did that not happen? And what does that say about 335 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: the culture at Boeing? I mean, and he couldn't really 336 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: answer that question. I mean, we don't have his response, 337 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: but he he essentially like it was an awkward response 338 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: right from a crisis smashment perspective. I mean, you heard 339 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: his words. He said, Oh, we're concerned, We're trying to 340 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: change things. But the facts of the last few months 341 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: show the opposite. What Senator Cruz was referencing was a document, 342 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, text exchanges from his chief technical pilot talking 343 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: about all the problems the chief technical pilot was experiencing 344 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: while he was in the simulator. They go to the 345 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: CEO and tell him about this. The CEO doesn't read it. 346 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: And not only that, not only there's not read it, 347 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: but he hides it from Congress in the FA all 348 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: he did. They gave it to the Department of Justice, 349 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: but they kept it from Congress in the FDA until 350 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: very recently. That's not talking about a company and turn around. 351 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: That's a company and cover up. I mean, you hear that, Garrett, 352 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's unfortunate. On the one hand, 353 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously safety five million people. I didn't know 354 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: this number until today. Five million people worldwide fly in 355 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: a Boeing plane per day daily. Five million people daily 356 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: use a Boeing aircraft, Garrett. I mean, yeah, your your 357 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: eyes just jumped there. I mean, and then you So 358 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: he's in a situation where he has to defend the company. 359 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: He's the face of the company. He's getting grilled by lawmakers. 360 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: But really it's it's ultimately going to be up to 361 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: the type of structural changes that he's going to be 362 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: able to make. That's correct, I mean, going into a 363 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: hearing like this, especially when you have multiple crashes, like 364 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: you said, you didn't share any of this information with 365 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the f A f a A A or the Senate at 366 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: that point, and so it looks like you're hiding information 367 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: and saying you wanted to take responsibility and change things. 368 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: When multiple plane crashes have happened and multiple people, hundreds 369 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: of people have lost their lives, He's really not going 370 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: to be sufficient for for those families who have who 371 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: have lost loved ones, I mean, and I think the 372 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: only thing that might give them some sort of comfort 373 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: probably at this point, is moving on, probably with some 374 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: sort of structural or leadership change. Well, and he was 375 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: asked that, I mean, but heading in he was asked 376 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: to buy reporters. Are you know, are you going to resign? 377 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Are you going to resign? And he said his focuses 378 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: on safety. This was, in my opinion. The next clip 379 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna play was candidly one of the most uh 380 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: aggressive lines from the hearing, and it's from Senator Richard Blumenthal, 381 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Connecticut. Here is Owen came to my 382 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: office shortly after these crashes and said they were the 383 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: result of pilot error. Those pilots never had a chance, 384 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: These loved ones never had a chance. They were in 385 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: flying coffins. Wow. I mean to hear they were in 386 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: flying coffins, I mean that was wow. I mean, and 387 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: and I think it's tough. I mean, look, people lost 388 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: their lives. But in the airline when you covered this 389 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: story in the airline industry, it's always you know, it's 390 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: a lobbying I mean that you got let's look at 391 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: this to the lobbying perspective. It's the airline companies versus 392 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: the pilot associations versus the international regulators. And then you 393 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: even can get even more into the weeds and Boeing 394 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: versus Delta and whatnot, Boeing versus air Bus. I mean, 395 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: there's so much at play here in the lens of 396 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: crisis communications that even goes beyond those. Rule Number one 397 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: is don't mislead people, especially, don't mislead Congress. And if 398 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you hear Centator bloem Methal talking about right there, how 399 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: they went in despite their chief technical pilot knowing that 400 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: there were all these problems. They went in and said 401 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: it was pilot or clearly that was just a cover. Yeah, 402 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: that's corrected. Then to say that, I mean, so he 403 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: knew about this in and then the odd this to 404 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: go on. So he really didn't take response build until 405 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: they got caught, which is another big issue. We're gonna 406 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: have to leave that there. Coming up an exclusive interview 407 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: with Senator Joe Manchin. We talked energy, a policy he 408 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: just got back from Saudi Arabia and towards Saudi Aramco, 409 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: those facilities that were bombed by those drone strikes. Don't 410 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: miss that. 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There were 419 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: some big news today as Murray Energy filed for Chapter 420 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: eleven bankruptcy. This is the eight eighth energy company to 421 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: do so in just the past couple of coal industry 422 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: rather coal company to do so in just the past month. 423 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: And I caught up with Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat 424 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: from West Virginia, about what this means for coal uh 425 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: and the coal industry and the trends for this. Take 426 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: a listen to what he told me. Here's our interview. 427 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: If it goes the way most bankruptcies have gone, we'll 428 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: go through a bankruptcy court, the filings, and before you 429 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: know it, UH, then there will be a distribution and 430 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: a and a reorganization. And when that happens, usually the worker, 431 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: the miners that we're talking about now, and their pension 432 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: and benefit plan, healthcare and pensions will be evaporated. We've 433 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: seen it happen so many times before. So I have 434 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: a bill called the Slap Back stopped looting America's pensions. 435 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: Shouldn't you basically put the person who invested into the 436 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: retirement plan with the company on the front line before 437 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: on then on the not on the back line because 438 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: everything is basically distributed and gone by the time it 439 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: comes to them. We're trying to stop that from happening. 440 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So is there a role here then for the federal 441 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: government's a players bail out, for there to be some 442 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: type of I'm not talking about bell outs. I'm just 443 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: talking about distribution of whatever assets is left when the 444 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: bankruptcy re organized. Where does money come from? The money 445 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: comes from basically the same way they do. They basically 446 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: give us of so many things, they sell off whatever 447 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: they're going to. But then what happens if you see 448 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: the investors that come in or different companies that reorganized, 449 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: they distribute that a lot of times in the means 450 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: of distributing and wealth for themselves or giving it to officials. 451 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: Before you know it and there's nothing left there never 452 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: has been anything. You you have a close relationship with 453 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: President Trump and the sense that he's someone that you 454 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: speak with regularly. Have you discussed this particular issue with him? 455 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: And we have talked basically about why the miners when 456 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: we have miners pension and miners healthcare. Three years ago 457 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: we were able to get the miner's healthcare guaranteed and 458 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: the pension should have been done at the same time, 459 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: but Mitch McConnell would not put it on. He separated it. 460 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: Now we have a bigger problem. And now with Murray 461 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: going bankrupt last night, the urgency is hey. From two 462 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: to one we thought there would be insolvency is gonna 463 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: go to twenty twenty, which is next year. The average 464 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: miners pensions around six hundred dollars and most of these 465 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: are widows and that's life sustaining for them and they're 466 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: gonna be losing that and happen jeopardy. It's a horrible situation. 467 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: We should never be in that and we need to 468 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: fix this now. So that's want to ask commits to 469 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: take up our bill fix that. But if you want 470 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: to stop this from happening in a perpetual manner, then 471 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: you need to have the Slap Act, which stops the 472 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: bankruptcy laws are changesn't We're the ones that allow for 473 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: this to happen back in the eighties, we change the 474 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: bankruptcy laws procedurally, what comes next? Procedurally? Basically, we introduced 475 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the bill, we have it fouled, It goes to the 476 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Finance Committee and it starts being debated but right now 477 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you we have the Central Central States 478 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: pensions and serious problems, and that is a tremendous amount 479 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: of money involved that could affect the economy of our 480 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: United States of America. We've gotta we've gotta address this 481 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: sooner than later. And now the miners brings it too 482 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: much more. Senator Murray Energy announced, I believe the closure 483 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: of one mind in West Virginia within the past few months. 484 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: Are you're concerned about other minds shutting down shore? And 485 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: the markets changed? And we talked about this before. Markets 486 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: are changing. I tell people back home, I said, you 487 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: know what I said. The abundance of energy that we 488 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: have under our land in West Virginia with all the gas, 489 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: natural gas, all the natural gas liquids, and it's abundantly cheap, 490 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: and it's driven the market in different directions. So before 491 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: we have never thought of gas being a baseload fuel 492 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: that means two seven rain or shine. Now the gas 493 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: is so cheap, they're converting into gas turbans versus the 494 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: coal the old coal plants, and we've converted We've got 495 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: some of the cleanest burning coal plants in the world. 496 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: But there's just not a market, they've been basically changed 497 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: and it's cheaper fuel, So when that happens, if there's 498 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: no market for and metallurgical has still been strong, but 499 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: it has weakened over the last year. So how do 500 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: you had that trend? How and more importantly, how to 501 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: your constituents ride that. We've had to ride it before. 502 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: The ups and downs and energy market has always been 503 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: something we've had to contend with in West Virginia. But 504 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: not having any type of help or basically assistance to 505 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: get through those tough periods of time make it very 506 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: difficult diversifying our economy to a certain extent. There's going 507 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: to be a demand for coal. When I was governor 508 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: of the web state of West Virginia, we were mining 509 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty plus million tons a year. We 510 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: went clear down to seventy five or eighty. Now we're 511 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: about ninety million, and that's about where we're gonna level 512 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: off for a while. And the amount of coal being 513 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: used for electricity today is less than what has ever 514 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: been in the history of our country. So that's going 515 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: to maintain, but it's not going to go away. And 516 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: there's other values to coal that we could be used 517 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: with the carbon switching gears. Now you just recently travel 518 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia where you're towards some Saudi Aramco plans. 519 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: Obviously with the developments of the intelligence pointing to Iran 520 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: UH with regards to the drone strikes on some of 521 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: those plans, you you've been really pressing on on how 522 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: this happened, and you've uncovered that there might actually be 523 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: some big tech implications in this tell us. I was concerned. Basically, 524 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I saw the the damage from the attacks and they 525 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: were absolutely as accurate as you could possibly be. And 526 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: then they were all coming from the north. They weren't 527 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: coming from Yemen. They were coming from the north. Either 528 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I rack or I rant so, and I ran to 529 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: anyone has a technology to do with the preciseness they 530 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: did it. So I was asking, just through a conversation, 531 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: I says, aren't you concerned of espionage? Maybe people implanted 532 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: in your organization here they are giving this pertinent information 533 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: that they're able to have this type of accurate strikes 534 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: and knowing exactly which units they hit that would cause 535 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: a total disruption or maybe shut you down completely. And 536 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: the guy kind of looked at me and he says, uh, 537 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: we we were concerned about that. He said, but this 538 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: this is on Google Maps, And I said, what he says, 539 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Google Map is very very accurate. They're able to pay 540 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: point and show everything that we have. And I'm thinking 541 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna be in nited States as well as it 542 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: is in other countries. And if they can do that, 543 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: there are we not vulnerable? So my concern and and 544 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: and Energy Natural Resource Committee, which I'm ranking member, I 545 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: want them to come in and explain to me why 546 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: we put some pertinent infrastructure that cripple, could cripple our 547 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: country or our economy in such a vulnerable position. It 548 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be done. So we're gonna have that answer. That 549 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: That was Senator Joe Mentioned, Democrat from West Virginia, coming up. 550 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: What's on the panel's radar. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 551 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg. 552 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg's Sound on with Kevin Surrele on Bloomberg 553 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 554 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: Let's go Nats. We want them to win. They're going 555 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: to win. I feel it. It's gonna be good. It's 556 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: some good energy. I'm Kevin, it's really cheap Washington, correspondent 557 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. My guests are Adam Goldberg, 558 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: former White House Special Associate Council to President Bill Clinton. 559 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: This was the question I asked everybody on Capitol Hill 560 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: today because you know, I have a lot of energy, 561 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: sometimes too much um in terms of anyway, what's your 562 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: favorite Bruce Springsteen song? Never Surrender? Oh, that's a really 563 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: good one. And Garrett Ventry, former spokesman for Senator Chuck 564 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Grassley and Senate Judiciary and the Senate Judiciary Committee. What's 565 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: your favorite Bruce spring Steen song? Oh, gosh, the Streets 566 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is pretty good. That is a really good one. 567 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: That is a really it's deep one. Wow, Garrett. I 568 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: mean Born in the USA is always good too. Yeah, 569 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: what do you think mine is? No, it's not. I 570 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: mean I love that song. I love a lot of 571 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: It's not a dislike that song. I like thunder Road. 572 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Thunder Road is always since I was a kid. Literally, 573 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: that Bruce was my first concert and that was on legit. 574 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: That is like my favorite song ever will that? And 575 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Walk On by You two. Anyway, it's now time for 576 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: what's on the panel's radar, and I'm gonna start because 577 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: we need some time for this one. Jared Kushner versus 578 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, ding ding ning. We need the sound effect. 579 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: So Joe Biden, the former Vice president, I guess he's 580 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: still technically the front runner, but not in Iowa and 581 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: not in New Hampshire. Uh. He was on sixty minutes 582 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: and he had this to say about Jared Kushner. Take 583 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: a listen. The idea that you're gonna have go to 584 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: the extent that he has gone to have our you know, 585 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: his his children, his on the lawn center, engaged in 586 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: the day to day operation of things they know nothing about. 587 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: They don't think Jared Kushner should be negotiating a Middle 588 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: East solution. No, I don't. I don't what what credential 589 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: does he bring to that? So that was Joe Biden 590 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: speaking to CBS is Margaret Brennan uh, a Bloomberg alum 591 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: by the way, and about that. And then Jared Kushner, 592 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: who was traveling in Israel this week, he spoke to 593 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Israel Channel thirteen and was asked about that interview. Heres 594 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: shared Kushner. A lot of the work that the President's 595 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: had me doing over the last three years has actually 596 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: been cleaning up the messages that Vice President Biden left behind. Okay, 597 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: so I'm going to you both, I know this, disagree 598 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: with each other on this very much. So I'm going 599 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: to each Let you say your piece. Adam, would you 600 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: like to go first or second? Either one, I'll go first. Alright, Alright, 601 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: So Jared Kushner couldn't even get a security clearance. His 602 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: father in law had forced the Intelligence and agencies and 603 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the FBI to grant him a security clearance. Yet he 604 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: is out there with massive conflicts of interests and its 605 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: financial interests trying to conduct a foreign policy. When he 606 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: talks about cleaning up mess is if you look at 607 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: his record, a piece converence in the the least where 608 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: the parties actually aren't even there. Um, he's creating messages, 609 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: he's not cleaning them up, Garrett. I mean the Obama 610 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: Biden administration left a lot of messes when it came 611 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: to foreign policy. When I mean we're talking about you 612 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: can go through Iran, Russia, Syria, isis I mean there's 613 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: been a lot of cleaning up the type to do 614 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: with some field foreign policy, can I ask? Okay? Now, 615 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: so we covered that. But on the political look that 616 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: was calm. But on the political well, technically I will 617 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: be um. But on the on the policy angle, this 618 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: is new right. Joe Biden now directly talking about Jared 619 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: Kushner in an interview. What's the political calculation there, Adam Well, 620 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: I think he's feeling a little bit I mean desperate, 621 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: maybe too strong, but he's feeling the pressure. He's he's 622 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: losing ground to others. And part of the reason is 623 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: he's just not aggressive. He's being Uncle Joe instead of 624 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: President Joe. And I think he's trying to show President Joe. 625 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean Garrett he called in, Joe Biden called in 626 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: this afternoon, that's a Trump move to MSNBC during Joe 627 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: And there's this great story by Tyler patri on the 628 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg terminal, Joe Biden and danger of humiliating loss in Iowa. 629 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Top democrats warm, He's not. He's like pulling third or 630 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,479 Speaker 1: fourth in Iowa, and then he's pulling second or third 631 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. There his campaign says South Carolina is 632 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: the firewall, but that historically hasn't always worked well for 633 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: people who go that route, people who don't, who don't 634 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: want to win Iowa, New Hampshire, and then calling South 635 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,959 Speaker 1: Carolina a firewall is like a third tier candidate who's 636 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: usually emerging, not the former vice president who you know 637 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: has as much cash on hand almost as Susan Collins, 638 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: and you know has less than Mitch McConnell. And so 639 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: he's obviously in a very dires I want to make 640 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: sure both of you have turned time to tell me 641 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: what what's on your radar? Adam, what's on your radar? 642 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: Andrew Yang and his new ad by. He just hired 643 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: two new ad guys, Mark Longeba and Tad Divine, one 644 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: of the known insider to the to the premier, Mark 645 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: lanbat two and they're launching. They're just going up right 646 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: now in the early States with an add by. So 647 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I'd expect his numbers to go up. Wow, So do 648 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,479 Speaker 1: I Yeah, No, that's fascinating and really maybe people should 649 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: take him seriously. Yanmentum, Yeah, it is now, Garrett, it 650 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: is now what's on your radar? So there's a bunch 651 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: of contentious cases coming before the Supreme Court, but one 652 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: interesting statistic I wanted to point out from Gallop is 653 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: that Gallop said that the Supreme Court's approval is up 654 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: twelve points from since the addition of justice is Gorsets 655 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: in Kavanaugh. So I think it's interesting that there's a 656 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: lot of uh, basically the left saying the court is, 657 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, not popular with the American people. There's a 658 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: lot of distress in the court, and it shows that 659 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Poland does not show that the case. What I wonder 660 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: why that? What do they know why? That's a good question. 661 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: I'd have to look at the polling, But I mean 662 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: that is fascinating. Brain that was an interesting statistic as 663 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: people are calling for core packing and other things. I 664 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: think it's a credit to Chief Justice Roberts right. I 665 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: think he's kept the court quiet under the radar, and 666 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: when you have the executive and alleged leader branches going 667 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: at each other, I think people like some stability. Yeah, 668 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: that they are very cordial with one another, the justices, 669 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: even though there's maybe different philosophy's and opinions. There any 670 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: predictions on the Nats, I think they win tonight. I 671 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: think Strasbourg brings it home. Really Yeah, I agree Gnats 672 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: in Game seven. My Eagles beat you unfortunate. I haven't 673 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: seen you anything else going on tomorrow that you guys 674 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: are for the rest of this week. I mean, I 675 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: guess this week is still going to be dominated by 676 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: the impeachment. But what's on your radar for tomorrow? There's 677 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: not a minute left. Well, I want to see the 678 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: readout from today's testimony from Vinmann, Lieutenant colonel appearing before 679 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: the readout? Which official readout? Are you gonna get it 680 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: from a leak? You know? That's how we're covering it 681 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: is like senior sources are, according to one person once 682 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: for moves him at the coffee shop, criticizing leaks. I'm not. 683 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: I am not criticizing links. I actually think that this 684 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: ought to be in public just so that we can 685 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: and I guess we're getting there. We're getting there. We're 686 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: getting there, and they shouldn't be storm and rooms or 687 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: briskly stro briskly strolling in the rooms either. Who am 688 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: I to judge? Thank you to Garrett Venturi, Thank you, 689 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: Thanks for Adam Goldberg. This is fun. Thank you both 690 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: so much for bringing the policy and the politics and 691 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: the smarts to this program. Download the Bloomberg's down on 692 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 693 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us 694 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm 695 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: getting some really Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and 696 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, and you're listening to Bloomberg