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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast, living in.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL

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Speaker 2: the Week thirteen flagship program.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here with Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler's

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Speaker 2: heroes both and this is an interesting Week thirteen. We

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Speaker 2: had six teams on Buy and Boys. I there are

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Speaker 2: many times where I miss living on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: It's days like today where I sit down and I

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Speaker 2: turn on the ten am starts and up and down

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Speaker 2: the Eastern seaboard, just miserable weather messing with everyone's lives,

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Speaker 2: like destroying any semblance of having a fun day at

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Speaker 2: the stadiums. And I think, okay, it's pretty nice out here, yo,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, we got some weird weather

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Speaker 3: suspended play which happens. It seemed to happen like once

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Speaker 3: a year whenever's covering that game. Yeah, and I believe

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Speaker 3: it was you, Greg, that you're suddenly watching games an

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Speaker 3: hour and a half later than all the other early

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Speaker 4: And I mean the Cardinals Steelers deserve to be a

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Speaker 4: four and a half hour game.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I'm always happy we're here on the West coast,

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Speaker 4: so we're not driving home either at their Sunday night

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Speaker 4: football at twelve thirty at night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: So you had, yeah, multiple games in raining or downpour conditions.

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Speaker 2: You had all the soggy fields, slippery fields, all those

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Speaker 2: black pellets everywhere, like on the cleats and on their

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Speaker 1: But and then you had all these backup quarterbacks, oh oh,

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Speaker 1: and all these guys that can't play. So you got

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Speaker 1: some things going on around the league.

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Speaker 2: But the one thing we did have, one thing that

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Speaker 2: we knew we had in our back pocket in this

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Speaker 2: week thirteen were the Eagles and Niners.

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Speaker 1: And here's the good thing, and we're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it wasn't the barn burner we were expecting,

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Speaker 2: but we learned a lot about both teams.

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Speaker 1: And also Greggy. These guys hate each other and to

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Speaker 1: just get the feeling. It was round one to set

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Speaker 1: it up for a better one.

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Speaker 6: Next to Philadelphia, we go first and ten Niners in

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Speaker 6: the Philly four eight party looks lap now middle throws

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Speaker 7: What an absolute peast debo Samuel oh Man, Greg Papa

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Speaker 7: and Tim Ryan with the call K and B.

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Speaker 2: Are you know there's so many stars on the Niners

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Speaker 2: and superstars of the Niners. I have long thought debos

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Speaker 2: Samuel is one of those people that he's in my

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Speaker 2: superstar club.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at.

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Speaker 2: The Niners bump in the road this season, it neatly

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Speaker 2: coincides with Deebo Samuel out of the lineup. He is

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Speaker 2: such a devastating jack of all trades and we saw

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Speaker 2: it again in Philadelphia where Samuel scored three touchdowns. Who

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Speaker 2: the star of a dominant offensive performance for Kyle Shanahan's

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Speaker 2: That's just the second loss of the season for Philly

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Speaker 2: and that tightens up the top of the NFC picture considerably.

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Speaker 5: Greg, the game started.

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Speaker 2: In one place, yep, and then once San Francisco kind

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Speaker 1: Calmed down, the whole game change.

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Speaker 4: The first quarter was completely dominated by Philadelphia. They had

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Speaker 4: nine to one hundred and twenty four yards to negative six.

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Speaker 4: And then after that the forty nine Ers put together

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Speaker 4: what was really one of the best offensive performances of

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Speaker 4: the season by any team and zooming out. I think

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Speaker 4: it really brings into focus this matchup forty nine Ers

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Speaker 4: offense versus Eagles defense specifically, because that's where I'm concerned

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Speaker 4: about this Eagles team. Their linebackers have been poor all year,

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Speaker 4: the safeties up and down, and Shanahan just put a

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Speaker 4: it was Purty on some early third downs being very

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Speaker 4: and dvaa coming into today. To me, it is a

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Speaker 4: season long issue. And once again they get out gained

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Speaker 4: by ninety five plus yards. That's five straight games that

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Speaker 3: That is wild, And it's like this is a matchup

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Speaker 1: Gonna be repeated a confluence of these teams.

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Speaker 2: Though, as football fans, I want to feel like we

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Speaker 2: got cheated. If these teams somehow don't meet again and

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Speaker 2: the divisional players, we gotta get these guys back.

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Speaker 9: In the same Yeah, you throw Dallas in there too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think to start the way they started,

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Speaker 3: and you you're wondering, did the Eagles just have this

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Speaker 3: team's number? And to turn around with these long Shanahan

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Speaker 3: esque touchdown drives, six touchdowns in a row, clock chewing,

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Speaker 3: high yardage, multiplay situations where it's like every game someone

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Speaker 3: and this version of Deebo Samuel. When you have Trent

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Speaker 3: impossible to figure out how to defend them.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned it coincided with Debo being out, and that's

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Speaker 4: totally fair. But Trent Williams is the guy I feel like, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's a to me, a first ballot type of Hall

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Speaker 4: And when they got going early and they were down

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Speaker 4: six to nothing and Philadelphia went zero for two in

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Speaker 4: by going left it was running left behind Trent Williams,

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Speaker 4: and I also think about a play to start the

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Speaker 4: second half. They did so well going into halftime, a

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Speaker 4: four minute drive that killed the clock, didn't give Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: pressure on Perdy for the most part on those throws.

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Speaker 4: And I think of a third and seven to start

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Speaker 4: that drive coming out of halftime, which is an out

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Speaker 4: but that was a real deal pro throw. He had

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Speaker 4: him too, Like it's pretty rare that, you know quarterback

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Speaker 4: four touchdowns, and he does feel like the third or

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Speaker 4: fourth person that you talk about on this team. But

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Speaker 4: it was really just personally met life for party, right,

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Speaker 4: it's perfect for everyone. Schio Capatia put that this was

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Speaker 4: the second best EPA per drive performance by any team

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Speaker 4: all year, which makes sense. They went six straight touchdowns

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Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta give us a little bit of

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Speaker 2: dangerously these last few weeks and the Niners looking for

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Speaker 2: that revenge, playing at a high level, being in a

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Speaker 2: seemed like an opportunity for this Mark. I think you

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Speaker 2: locked it up. I did good job there. I almost

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Speaker 2: gotta you gotta give the Niners a ton of credit.

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Speaker 2: And they're, like I said, a lot of bad blood

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Speaker 5: Will get into what happened with the director of.

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Speaker 2: Security in a little bit, but for them to put

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Speaker 2: and I think, you can't win a game in the

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Speaker 1: And that's where he was so common. Yeah, just kind

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Speaker 2: He hit Samuel for thirteen yards and once they kind

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Speaker 2: of got the crowd a little bit taken out of

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Speaker 2: it and they got calmed down, they just started rolling.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the sign of a championship team, and

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Speaker 2: we're not going to go back, and Eagles fans don't

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Speaker 2: want to hear it, and the Niners fans wouldn't help

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Speaker 1: I kind of think the Niners were the team led

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Speaker 2: In the way played out an NFC title game was

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking for them and their fan base. This was a

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Speaker 2: This was an announcement to the Eagles, like, this is

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see us in January.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what happens, right, because the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 4: defense got more pressure on Hurts than vice versa. Now,

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Speaker 4: sometimes I feel like Hurts left the pocket when it

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Speaker 4: bit about what we saw from Hurts. I don't think

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Speaker 4: their offense was bad today. They finished with nineteen points,

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Speaker 4: was just disappointing, but they moved the ball. They didn't

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Speaker 4: Hurts just not feeling like comfortable going to his first read.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot in rhythm for them, And so give

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like it's so easy to, you know,

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Speaker 3: magnify the Niners offense and talk about how versatile they

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Speaker 3: are in all their stars, but it's like their defensive

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Speaker 3: team that you know has been hot and cold on

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Speaker 1: They couldn't at all.

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Speaker 3: And I think to go do this in Philadelphia, which

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Speaker 3: is one of the nastier places to play and come

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Speaker 3: out from the West Coast, it's like this is a

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Speaker 3: statement operation by the Niners, and stop telling me that

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Speaker 3: Brock Party is so far down in this MVP race.

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Speaker 3: It annoys me. It annoys me because I don't know

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Speaker 3: what else he needs to do. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, here's the thing that's and I'm with you, fundamentally,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you like it needs to he needs more credit. Also,

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Speaker 2: like I think Christian McCaffrey deserves real MVP, a real look.

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Speaker 1: And this is one hundred and thirty three yards in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like for him, that's a quiet but

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Speaker 2: he was. Every time they kind of needed a play,

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Speaker 2: he made a play. He had a couple of runs

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Speaker 5: Yeah, game of the Week.

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Speaker 3: We've we've tilted towards you know, the closest game of

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Speaker 1: Now what we do game of the week if Big

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Speaker 2: Listen, big Dom is someone who I think we need

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Speaker 5: But it didn't happen that way.

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Speaker 3: And this was you know, like it's not the ira

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Speaker 3: Big Dom and they should.

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Speaker 1: I'm not now he's been going to become He would

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Speaker 4: People love him. Andy Reid loved him too. He called

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Speaker 4: approve of his actions and kind of baited like he

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Speaker 1: You know the Eagles have problems after this game.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Big Dom's long the list and there

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Speaker 2: it is, you're watch it on YouTube. They got to

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Speaker 2: I think the Cowboys next week and all of a sudden, everything's.

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Speaker 1: Up for grabs. Number one seed, spicy, It is delicious.

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Speaker 2: be a blowout. That got tight to the Superdome. Two

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Speaker 11: It's the before it's side the ten Dogs into the

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Speaker 8: A little razzle dazzled.

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Speaker 8: The Lions extended their lead.

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Speaker 2: You know these are the great that's Dan Miller of course,

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Speaker 1: Jameis and Williams, we see you Bud. He's through the

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Speaker 2: Barely, but not even just the sword, just the speed

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Speaker 1: Tell me he did not run thirty three miles per hour.

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Speaker 2: On I swear to God if he was not, and Eric,

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Speaker 2: huge performance from breakdout, breakout tight end Sam Laporta in

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Speaker 2: a thirty three to twenty eight win over the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Mark Detroit jumped ahead early, nearly let it slip away,

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Speaker 3: They did They obviously, I think De Troit and we've

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Speaker 5: I hope everyone's happy.

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Speaker 9: Well, no, you know what you know, life once and

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Speaker 3: Well, it does sound dark, but like you, you like

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Speaker 4: Like Quin Taysom Hills on the field. They then boo

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Car, it was, and you just saw a

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Speaker 1: Then his interception was just a drop. It was not

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think I think the problem with I

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Speaker 1: With the coach. It's the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: He's like the face of it, and he's become the

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Speaker 2: what's happening here, Mark, and I'd love to hear more,

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Speaker 2: gen stats report here that Jamis and William reached the.

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Speaker 1: Top speed of twenty point seven.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's because you only get you only get those

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Speaker 2: Tell me, you can't tell me you watch that play

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Speaker 4: And when he jumped and then the celebration like multi part.

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Speaker 1: I love me some Jamis did with but.

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Speaker 2: No, all right, let's let's watch them James and Williams

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Speaker 1: We already know what's going on. When waimore get, I

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Speaker 5: Let's go tend down.

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Speaker 12: Wait, wait, let's go.

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Speaker 5: It's such a great guy.

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Speaker 1: I gotta start start calling. I thought it was Jamo,

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Speaker 2: Let's getting back to the game, and along lines what

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Speaker 1: Well they're not to some of their parts.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think I think it's pretty clear to

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Speaker 3: a lot for Jared Goff, who was money when it mattered.

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Speaker 3: In the final couple of minutes. It was third and eight,

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Speaker 3: And it's like this was a game where Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: Now they're nine and three for the first time in

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Speaker 9: Have it's been the dark organizational journey for.

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Speaker 4: I was nervous, Greg, you were nervous. You jumped on

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Speaker 4: always give.

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Speaker 1: It to give it to once, give it to us.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was gonna be a very annoying aspect today,

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Speaker 1: So good that you made the office more than what

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Speaker 4: Like like, I'm not gonna honk too much about uh,

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Speaker 4: they get to punt with a minute left up a touchdown,

442
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Speaker 4: and instead they call pass on third and nine, and

443
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking that's one of those plays where you tell golf, like,

444
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Speaker 4: if it's not there, just eat it and the clock

445
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Speaker 4: will run and we have like a ninety five percent

446
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Speaker 4: chance to win. Yeah, and there's pressure early. Goff actually

447
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 4: takes a hit on that play. He's moving left to

448
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 4: get out of the way. It's like second reaction golf play,

449
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,879
Speaker 4: and when he throws that ball, I'm thinking, no, no, no, no, no,

450
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 4: this is such a bad idea. And he puts a

451
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Speaker 4: dime on Renolds while moving left and Reynolds makes a

452
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Speaker 4: great catch with it too and run after the catch

453
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Speaker 4: to get the first out. That was it was a

454
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Speaker 4: really high level play by by Goff and Reynolds, and

455
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Speaker 4: a ton of guts by the coaching stuff, and a

456
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Speaker 4: lot of trust. They really do trust Jared Goff an

457
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Speaker 4: incredible amount in these big tits.

458
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Speaker 3: And he's shown them outside of the past couple of

459
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Speaker 3: games where you know he deserves that trust. There was

460
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Speaker 3: one moment in this and it wasn't really like the

461
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Speaker 3: it wasn't the network's decision to do this, but how

462
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Speaker 3: like Kamara raised out of bounds and like ran into

463
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Speaker 3: the legs of like a chain gang dude.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and like the camera was sort of fixed, like

465
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Speaker 9: the camera.

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Speaker 3: Guy was sort of fixed on the whole situation, and

467
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Speaker 3: it was uncomfortable to watch because it was just like

468
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Speaker 3: not an athlete but a like a normal man, just

469
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Speaker 3: like writhing on the ground in a way that like

470
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Speaker 3: it was worse than stuff.

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Speaker 2: I was a catastrophic lower leg injury as a dislocated

472
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Speaker 2: kneecap or something.

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Speaker 4: Jeff Duncan of The Times picky and reported that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that he was at University Hospital in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna have surgery. It was uncomfortable to watch. We

476
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Speaker 1: wish him well.

477
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Speaker 3: It's like when we've been on the like the games

478
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Speaker 3: in London on the sideline, there's always this like under

479
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: belly of concern that like a football is gonna hit

480
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Speaker 3: me in the head, where a player is gonna smash

481
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Speaker 3: in me and I'll.

482
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Speaker 9: Just be killed.

483
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Speaker 2: Right, that would be in some ways a pathetic way

484
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Speaker 2: to go, but also kind of cool. I mean, we

485
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Speaker 2: would be They're all just specs on this universe, and

486
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: at least that would be a memorable death.

487
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Speaker 1: It'd be pathetic.

488
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Speaker 5: Oh has your buddy Mark doing? Oh?

489
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Speaker 2: Died killed on the sideline by Derrick Henry in Week five,

490
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Speaker 2: like oble keg all right, Uh, let's head to Houston,

491
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Speaker 2: where the Texans were looking to keep their playoff push

492
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Speaker 2: going and the Broncos we're looking to keep a winning

493
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Speaker 2: streak intact.

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Speaker 11: Third and goal from the eight, Wilson and the gun

495
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Speaker 11: one back p Ryan Wilson gets to snap wilsonid Chase.

496
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Speaker 13: Wilson escapes the sack, throws what's out of the ends

497
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Speaker 13: are accepted, Yes, Texas, Yes, Houston's gonna win.

498
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Speaker 8: Nine seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Mark Van Demir and andre Ware with a yes,

500
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Speaker 2: Ki l T andre Ware, that's awesome.

501
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The fun and surprising Texans season has been defined by

503
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Speaker 2: the play of wonder kind QB Bryce Young Thanks C. J.

504
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Speaker 5: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, we were reminded of the huge gains made

506
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Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball, Jimmy Ward's end

507
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Speaker 2: zone I n T save the day for the home

508
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Speaker 2: team and a twenty two win over the Broncos, who's

509
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Speaker 2: winning streak comes to an end and the Texans keep

510
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Speaker 2: themselves in the playoff mix. Interesting game, all right, Let's

511
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Speaker 2: start with the big injury news because it's it's terrible

512
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Speaker 2: because Tank Dell on the Texans from in close touchdown

513
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 2: run he's blocking, he gets rolled up on and he's

514
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Speaker 2: got a broken leg and he's out for the year

515
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: and he's going to injured reserve. And it's hard to

516
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: understate how important or overstate how important he is to

517
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Speaker 2: this team and what he has meant to SAYJ. Stroud

518
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Speaker 2: and what has been kind of a historic rookie season.

519
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: When you have a quarterback having a historic rookie season,

520
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: there's usually a wingman that's helping him make it happen.

521
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Speaker 2: And that has very much been Tank del so losing

522
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Speaker 2: him for the balance of the season is devastating. That said,

523
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Speaker 2: this is not a one trick pony act this offense.

524
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Speaker 2: And on the day that they lose tanked Dell for

525
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Speaker 2: the year. Nico Collins goes nine for one ninety one

526
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Speaker 2: and a touchdown. They still aren't getting anything from the

527
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Speaker 2: running game, but Stroud was able to find a way.

528
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Speaker 2: And most importantly, as I said at the top here,

529
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Speaker 2: it was the defense because you had, like I said,

530
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Speaker 2: you had the interception to seal it. That was one

531
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Speaker 2: of three picks by Russell Wilson. The other two were

532
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Speaker 2: by Derek Stingley, their number three overall pick two years ago,

533
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Speaker 2: and Will Anderson had two sacks and two tackles for

534
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Speaker 2: a loss. So you have all these guys when they

535
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Speaker 2: were the worst team in the league the last few years,

536
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Speaker 2: and they're starting to bank these high level draft picks.

537
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Speaker 2: It's really looking like they're hitting on these guys, and

538
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Speaker 2: you're seeing with Dimico Ryans leading the way, progress on

539
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: that side, and that makes Texas the Texans dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like there's a connective DNA to what

541
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Speaker 3: Demiico Ryans was able to do in San Francisco before

542
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: he got this job where there's player development, like Will

543
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: Anderson's growth has like he was a fascinating player today

544
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: and wreaking all sorts of havoc. Like you bring in

545
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Speaker 3: Jimmy Ward, who obviously you know they knew each other

546
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Speaker 3: from San Francisco, and he's making big plays, and like

547
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Speaker 3: Derek Stingley, it's like it's the Yes, CJ. Stroud is

548
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 3: the biggest story in Houston, but this defense can make

549
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: a difference too. And I kind of just like the

550
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Speaker 3: way this whole team building situation has gone for Texas.

551
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Speaker 4: Pretty quickly, right, Jimmy Ward and Stingley. You look at

552
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Speaker 4: when they were in the lineup and when they weren't,

553
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 4: and that kind of coincides with them playing much better now.

554
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 4: Their offensive line has also gotten healthier, and I think

555
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 4: that's how too in terms of the past protection for Stroud,

556
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Speaker 4: but they are box office every week, that is now.

557
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Speaker 4: And they showed a graphic during game like heartbreaking losses

558
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Speaker 4: for the Texans that they had suffered. Their last three

559
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: losses were all heartbreaking, and I was looking at them,

560
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Speaker 4: I'm thinking, well, that's true, but like every time they

561
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Speaker 4: win it's a heartbreaking loss for the opponent. That is

562
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Speaker 4: now eight straight games that have been decided by one

563
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Speaker 4: score and I'm just eyeballing them. And I think all

564
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 4: of them were like the last drive, where like someone

565
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Speaker 4: has the ball and they either win the game or

566
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Speaker 4: they don't win the game with the ball in the

567
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Speaker 4: last seconds. And that's just it makes sense that they're

568
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Speaker 4: a young team, and I think they got to be

569
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Speaker 4: so excited about the Stingley Anderson combos as well, said Dan, this,

570
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Speaker 4: thankurt it out, Thank you Greg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have that side of things and the reason.

572
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Speaker 2: And again they just lost their most important offensive player

573
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Speaker 2: beside Stroud. So I'm not going to come down on

574
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: the offense too hard, but they really struggled to put

575
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: this game away third down. They were four for sixteen

576
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 2: in this game, and it allowed Denver to hang around

577
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: even on an imperfect day from their offense. So Russell Wilson,

578
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Speaker 2: we just talked about him. Greg is pumping his fist

579
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 2: right now because Wilson after going.

580
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Speaker 1: He didn't say a word.

581
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: No interceptions during that that's five game winning streak. He

582
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: throws three interceptions in this game, and it's kind of frustrating.

583
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Speaker 2: I know Denver fans are feeling it because the interception

584
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: that ends the game, he makes a really athletic play

585
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: to escape the rush and he actually he kind of

586
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: sets himself a little bit and takes an extra beat.

587
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: He probably doesn't throw that ball up for grabs because

588
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: he had he had some time, but I think he

589
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: was rushing after the hurry and it led to the interception,

590
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: so that those turnovers were killer. He also had a

591
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: touchdown pass and a touchdown run and did move the offense,

592
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: especially in the second half, but it wasn't enough.

593
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Speaker 5: Arrow up on court Courtland Sutton by the.

594
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Speaker 9: Way, Oh, I feel like every week he's doing something.

595
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Speaker 5: Really and I was, I was.

596
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Speaker 2: I think I had a tweet earlier today that he's

597
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: really kind of arrived.

598
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Speaker 5: But he had like a twelve hundred yard season a

599
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Speaker 5: few years ago.

600
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Speaker 4: One of West's favorite players thought he was kind of

601
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: an all Pro that was buried on a team that

602
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 4: it depressed his stats even though he was just incredible.

603
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Speaker 5: But he's kind of back now that that version of

604
00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 5: him his best.

605
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: He had his ninth catchdown touchdown catch of the season,

606
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: so that was the positive. Denver and Houston still in

607
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the playoff mix. But that was a big win for

608
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: the text loss in the injury.

609
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: Wilson on the ground last you know, three or four

610
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: weeks has been looking a little bit more like the.

611
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: Old Yes had a big fourth down pick up their

612
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: six and six Texans seven and five. We'll see if

613
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 4: that tiebreaker ends up mattering. But even just the fact

614
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: that the Texans get a game up and have a

615
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 4: fairly favorable schedule moving forward, as Big James Palmer pointed out,

616
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson three point eight yards per attempt and play

617
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 4: when they weren't doing play action in you know thirteen

618
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Speaker 4: when it was And I think that points out a

619
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Speaker 4: little bit of what I've been just saying with Russell Wilson,

620
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Speaker 4: which is that like there's still like kind of a

621
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Speaker 4: limited offense. They can't just like drop back to pass

622
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: and win. That's not what they're doing. It's like play action.

623
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Speaker 4: It's like scheming up types of plays.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean he's a nobody's pounded the table

625
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: for MVP for Russe Wilson.

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Speaker 1: No, there was like one Broncos fan, But you don't

627
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Speaker 1: want to be but you don't want to listen to

628
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: this closely block it was like, this is better MV.

629
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

630
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Speaker 9: Yes, I saw one that feels slightly disconnected from reality.

631
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Speaker 2: I think he's probably a big wins as a QB

632
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: stat guy, would be my guess. On that play one

633
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: last thing before we move on, we need Uh. This

634
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: happened a couple of times. H that I saw in

635
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: games I watched today. Happened in the Meadowlands too, against

636
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: the Falcons when they blew a play dead on a

637
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: strip of Trevor Simeon that would have went for a touchdown.

638
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 12: Uh.

639
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: They overturned it on review from an incomplete pass, But

640
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: if they just let the play play out, it's a

641
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: touchdown and a game icing touchdown for Atlanta. In this game,

642
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: the Texans hit some a JP ryand for no game

643
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: They took the ball away ran it in for a

644
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: tv TD, but officials ruled forward progressing stopped. A replay

645
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: showed it that that was you could very easily have

646
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: gone the other way on that.

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Speaker 1: And it's just, you know, come on, bad officiating game whistles.

648
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Speaker 2: I feel like I was watching a lot of bad

649
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: officiating in the games I watched today.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about you.

651
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: And the Texans.

652
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Speaker 4: First touchdown was after Alex Singleton roughing, which was pretty

653
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: soft like where it was. That was a fourth down

654
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: turnover that it kept the drive going because he like

655
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: lightly pushed C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 4: Although if I was Texans fans, I would love the

658
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: fact that Stroud like immediately got right back.

659
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: In his face. And that's why I was surprised, like

660
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Speaker 1: Singleton just got the penalty and Stroud at all. But

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Speaker 1: it was I liked it.

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Speaker 3: I would say, if you're an official and it's pouring

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Speaker 3: rain or it looked like it was hailing at one

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Speaker 3: point down in Tampa, like I think it'd be, you know,

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Speaker 3: I would do a lesser job.

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Speaker 4: Not a problem at NRG Stadium if that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: It's still energy. I don't they flipped that way. So

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Speaker 4: you're saying they wouldn't try as hard if the weather

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Speaker 4: was better.

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Speaker 3: I don't, but try as hard. It's like to go

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Speaker 3: go do anything just as good. If it's freezing rain

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Speaker 3: and you're like soaking, well, it's your job. The professional

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 1: If job to begin with.

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Speaker 5: If this is open air and the rains pouring in.

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Speaker 9: Oh, we'd be professional.

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Speaker 2: But this is what we just stays at a level

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Speaker 2: absolutely of greatness. All right, let's take a break and

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Speaker 2: we will march on.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Around the NFL the Flagship Program, Week thirteen.

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Speaker 2: It's time now for the Sunday Drive presented by the

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Speaker 2: first ever Toyota Grand Highlander.

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Speaker 1: It is Nick Shook time. So let's head to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Two thirty four to go in overtime, second down and

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Speaker 1: goal at the four Hanks. You out of the guns,

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Speaker 1: shotgun snap looks to is right, Indians close, Michael Pittman

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Speaker 1: looks down.

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Speaker 8: Touchdown. Michael Pittman ball game?

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Speaker 1: Why gee?

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Speaker 11: Why Michael Pittman into the inZone from Carnivent.

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Speaker 1: You and the cool Quinn thirty one.

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Speaker 8: C bang in Nashville. Yes, sir, how the Bungos are out?

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor and Rick Van Turry with the call w

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Speaker 2: f N I Gardner means you threw a four yard

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Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Michael Pittman with two thirty one to

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Speaker 2: play in overtime, allowing the Colts to escape Nashville with

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Speaker 2: a thirty one to twenty eight win over the Titans.

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Speaker 2: That's four straight wins for the Colts to keep them

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Speaker 2: in the playoff race in the AFC. The Colts had

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Speaker 2: needed that touchdown because Nick Folk booted a forty six

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Speaker 2: yarder earlier in ot But they would not be denied.

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Speaker 1: Another man who will never be denied in all things,

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Speaker 1: but especially in the gym.

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Speaker 2: The pipe pipe, pipe, pipe pipe.

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Speaker 1: Game turned on that block punt, didn't it. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I got the Colts back to the game.

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Speaker 14: Titans were got out too an early lead, kind of

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Speaker 14: had a little bit of control of the game. Colts

710
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Speaker 14: couldn't do all that much offensively. You get the block pun,

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Speaker 14: everything swings. Suddenly the Colts are stringing together good drive,

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Speaker 14: They take the lead, they get it to overtime, Titans

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Speaker 14: fight back.

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Speaker 1: This game had everything.

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Speaker 14: This game had pretty much every element you'll expect from

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Speaker 14: an NFL game. There was all kinds of wackiness. You

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Speaker 14: had two former backups now starters playing pretty good football.

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Speaker 14: A classic meeting between the Colts and Titans. This used

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Speaker 14: to decide the division. It's not going to decide the

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Speaker 14: division this year, but it was worthy of that type

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Speaker 14: those types of steaks and Colts.

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Speaker 5: Come away a winner.

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Speaker 14: And I don't know if if you know, but just

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Speaker 14: just so you're certain in case the radio call didn't

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Speaker 14: get it through to your head.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he got it, He's got it, he got it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can watch games all season and not I

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Speaker 4: would imagine we won't see any other game where a

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Speaker 4: punt is blocked twice in a row by the same team,

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Speaker 4: which knocks out the punter and then brings a Nick

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Speaker 4: Folk to punt who, by the way, punted. Fine, sure,

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Speaker 4: let's just save a roster spot and have no as

734
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Speaker 4: the holder. Yeah he didn't, which that may have cost

735
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Speaker 4: them because they missed the extra point with Tannehill the laces.

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, can we calm down to the laces

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Speaker 4: and hit an extra point?

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Speaker 1: What do I know?

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Speaker 5: You're out of your element.

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Speaker 4: And then, more importantly, I mean the same game that

741
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Speaker 4: we have two straight block punts, we have a pick two,

742
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Speaker 4: which is one of my favorite things. If this game

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Speaker 4: did not involve the Colts Titans, it would absolutely be

744
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Speaker 4: our game of the week. Maybe we should rethink it.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying there said there was a.

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Speaker 1: Lone going on tangle. Yeah, go ahead, shooky, Yeah, they

747
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Speaker 1: kind of are.

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Speaker 14: I mean Gardner minshe had a strong day. You know,

749
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Speaker 14: he didn't make any mistakes. He had a beautiful touchdown

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Speaker 14: pass to Alec Pierce, who I think is kind of

751
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Speaker 14: coming on as of late. He's a guy who I've

752
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Speaker 14: kind of liked, and and you look at the receiving

753
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Speaker 14: corps and you think, well, they don't have all that

754
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Speaker 14: much talent. But if a guy like Piers can produce

755
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Speaker 14: like he did today, then suddenly it'll be much better

756
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Speaker 14: and be more than just Michael Pittman, who also had

757
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Speaker 14: a strong day. But it's you know, it's a cold

758
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Speaker 14: team that's hanging around guys. I mean, we know who

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Speaker 14: the Titans are. They went through a stretch last couple

760
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Speaker 14: of weeks where they couldn't move the ball at all,

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Speaker 14: and it was nice to see Will Levis get some

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Speaker 14: time to throw. And because Derek Henry found some success

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Speaker 14: in the ground before he exited with an injury, you know,

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Speaker 14: Levis was able to operate the offense and you kind

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Speaker 14: of see what Greg was all high on Levis for

766
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Speaker 14: like a month ago or however long ago. It was like,

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Speaker 14: it's there, it is there. I totally see it. But

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Speaker 14: once Henry leaves, that offense kind of shrinks, gives the

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Speaker 14: Colts an opening. And again, like I said, the Colts

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Speaker 14: are hanging around. They're seven and five. They're probably the

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Speaker 14: ugliest seven and five team in the league right now

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Speaker 14: outside of the Pittsburgh Steelers. But then again, you have

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Speaker 14: to take them seriously from here on out, especially when

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Speaker 14: they find ways to win this game, because for a

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Speaker 14: while there it looked like they were going to drop

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Speaker 14: one to a division rival.

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Speaker 3: And they're not going away if they play like this

778
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Speaker 3: and if they're coached like this, because they've got the

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Speaker 3: Bengals Joe Burrow free Bengals next week, a Steelers team

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Speaker 3: that's going to be playing with their backup quarterback, a

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Speaker 3: Falcons team that's beatable, the Raiders who are beatable.

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Speaker 1: And then that final game with the Texans. So it's

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Speaker 1: like we.

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Speaker 3: Talked a lot about the Colts last week, and I

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Speaker 3: hear it like they're not always exciting to watch. But

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Speaker 3: I do think that change psyching is a difference making

787
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Speaker 3: type of coach. And I look at the overall jobb

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Speaker 3: he's done this year, I'm really impressed. And you get

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Speaker 3: this version of Gardner minsh, You're not the one that's

790
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Speaker 3: throwing three interceptions and you can win.

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Speaker 4: Right That was his best throw of the game in overtime.

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Speaker 4: And I want to give them credit because they're just clutched.

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Speaker 4: They always find a way here. And then I look

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Speaker 4: and like the offense I think had a total of

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Speaker 4: fourteen yards on their last five possessions of the in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, So their offense did not was not

797
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Speaker 4: clutch in the fourth quarter, but their defense made just

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Speaker 4: enough place to get him to overtime.

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Speaker 1: And then Minshew makes the play, and it's just like

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Speaker 1: and that the culture now three and zero.

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Speaker 2: When min Chew does not throw an interception, which you

802
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Speaker 2: know he does do that a lot, so but when

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Speaker 2: he plays the clean version of a Minshee game, it's

804
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Speaker 2: just like the Coult server a reminder, and I hope

805
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Speaker 2: teams are learning from this in this very sloppy quarterback

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Speaker 2: season twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Your season doesn't have to be over because your starting

808
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Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt. It doesn't have to be right.

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Speaker 2: For many teams, it is because they don't prioritize or

810
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Speaker 2: invest in the position beyond the starter. And Minshew was

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Speaker 2: out there for anybody, and the Colts said, Okay, we

812
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Speaker 2: like having that guy behind our rookie. And when the

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Speaker 2: rookie disappears at the end of September, they were still

814
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Speaker 2: okay because the rookie was still figuring things out, so

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Speaker 2: it wasn't even like you were going from up here

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Speaker 2: to down here. And Minshew somehow has to find a

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Speaker 2: balance like he came in playing. I mean he's a

818
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Speaker 2: lower level, he's a high backup, you know, lower rung starter,

819
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Speaker 2: but that's enough in a division like this, and a

820
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Speaker 2: team like you're saying credit to Stichen and the whole operation.

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Speaker 2: They've been able to win a lot of these like

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Speaker 2: coin flip games, and they're in the mix as a result.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you can have a fringe starter as

824
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Speaker 3: your backup, you're in a different place than teams that

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Speaker 3: you know, with a lack of creativity stick someone behind

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Speaker 3: your starter, like in Cincinnati and if anything happened to

827
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen in Buffalo, where it's like your season is

828
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Speaker 3: lost if you sticking a guy who's just a ham

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Speaker 3: and egger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it also is kind of.

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Speaker 14: They're indicative of how strong your coaching staff is because

832
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Speaker 14: we've seen this happen over the last few years, and

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Speaker 14: you've seen it in this season, where you know, a

834
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Speaker 14: team like San Francisco in previous years had to go

835
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Speaker 14: through a number of different quarterbacks and yet found a

836
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Speaker 14: way to still be kind of competitive. Or this year

837
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Speaker 14: with the Colts, and how Shane Stikeen's doing such a

838
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Speaker 14: great job. He'd be a Coach of the Year candidate

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Speaker 14: if Demico Ryans didn't exist, I think, or you look

840
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Speaker 14: at all and they've had to go through all these

841
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Speaker 14: things with their quarterback situation, and Kevin Sevanci has been

842
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Speaker 14: up and down in that department, but yet they've stayed

843
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Speaker 14: a flow. It really is the silver lining of a

844
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Speaker 14: messy quarterback season is you get a better evaluation of

845
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Speaker 14: how strong coaching staff is and how well they're equipped

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Speaker 14: to handle adversity. And and you know that sometimes that.

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Speaker 4: He is a candidate, they invite three coaches to the

848
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Speaker 4: NFL honors.

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Speaker 1: He certainly got. He certainly got a chance. Don't invite

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Speaker 1: two coaches who aren't gonna win. I don't know how

851
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: that works. Maybe they don't, but they definitely you don't

852
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: invite multiple coaches, then you.

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Speaker 2: Then you got to give you the idea of Manu

854
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: Chaange Stegonds, like I could be Coach of the Year

855
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: if only Demiko Ryans didn't exist. It's like Josh Malwitz

856
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: on Dateline the same record.

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Speaker 1: They got the same record, and one's coaching with with Minschew.

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Speaker 4: So, uh, you might have a point, but it's one

859
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: of those seas insinuating murder. Yeah, everything goes right for

860
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Speaker 4: them that you get two block punts. Jeffrey Simmons leaves

861
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Speaker 4: with an injury and Derek Henry leaves with an injury

862
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Speaker 4: in the same game.

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Speaker 2: Henry went over one hundred with two scores. Hopefully he's

864
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Speaker 2: going to be okay, shookie, Thank you buddy. Easy one week. Hey,

865
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Speaker 2: no more buys in a couple of weeks. So we're

866
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Speaker 2: gonna need you down the stretch.

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Speaker 9: I'll be getting my back ready to carry the load

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Speaker 9: or you.

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Speaker 5: Don't skip back there.

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Speaker 8: No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I definitely don't, Shooky.

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Speaker 5: Thank you buddy.

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Speaker 1: And that was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota Let's

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Speaker 2: I think we had a good Thursday show, guys. I

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Speaker 2: keep looking at some of the results and it's syncing

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Speaker 2: up with our commentary going into these games. We looked

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Speaker 2: at this Dolphins Commanders game and said, you know what,

879
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: these fish, it's been a while since. They gave us

880
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: some explosive fun and it was explosive. Well, it's explosive

881
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: fun for the Dolphins and explosive something else for the

882
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Commanders and their fans.

883
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 5: Let's head to landovers.

884
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 13: Kill e motion goes to the right looking for him

885
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 13: keep down the field.

886
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 8: What a movement by a heel to kicks that football.

887
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: He was turned inside Joe the bolls it, throw it

888
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: to the outside and he weeded his way back. Another

889
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: bomb to its Hill touchdown Jimmy Cefalo.

890
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: WBGG with it called.

891
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill had two more touchdowns in five catches for

892
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: a buck fifty seven that was basically in a half

893
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: a word, and he and the Miami Dolphins absolutely hammet

894
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders forty five point fifteen to remain comfortably

895
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: atop the AFC East and they're nine to three for

896
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: the first time since two thousand and one. How about that, Greggie,

897
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: This was it? This was that a dominant Miami offense.

898
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: And of course if they're having a dominant day, Tyreek

899
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Hill is all over it.

900
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want it to be dazzled. I said it.

901
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: It's been a while since we had one of those

902
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: two games and we got it, and yes, Tyreek Hill

903
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: is ridiculous, and that is such a great adjustment on

904
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 4: the ball there where maybe they weren't on the same

905
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: page exactly, and he gets the long touchdown. But Tua

906
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: creates math problems with these receivers. Those two long touchdowns

907
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 4: that he threw were in getting rid of the ball

908
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: in two point one to three seconds, in two point

909
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 4: twenty five seconds, which is so fast, and yet the

910
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 4: ball is fifty yards.

911
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Down the field and Hill is catching up to it.

912
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: So it's timing, it's footwork.

913
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: I think Tua's really improved at resetting and making the

914
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: first pass rush or miss missed. That wasn't maybe the

915
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 4: case on those touchdowns, but there were many plays today

916
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: where Washington actually did get pressure quickly and he just

917
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: does a little shoulder shake or he moves to the

918
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: side and then he resets. It's very Tom Brady is

919
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: just in terms of the pocket presence of just quickly

920
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: moving and then making a nice throw. So I'm I'm

921
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: all aboard the Tyreek Hill is the MVP right now.

922
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: I've been saying that for a while. He's at ninety

923
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: three for one, one twelve, but this was absolutely also

924
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 4: a great TUA performance and it was nice to see.

925
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: We needed that.

926
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Tyreek Hill is just doing this every week.

927
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: Part of it is the opponent. Washington has given up

928
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: one hundred and five points in three games, and well,

929
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: I think Sam Howell has been.

930
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: A visually intriguing player to watch.

931
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: Everything is falling apart and it's it's clear, you know

932
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: the coach is going to be gone, the GM is

933
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: going to be gone. I think Howell deserves a chance

934
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: to stay as your future starter. I think he's shown

935
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: a lot, but he also, like is not protected well,

936
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: walks into a lot of his own sacks. And when

937
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: you get the version of them throwing a pick six today,

938
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: lighting now, I think it's a good sign that without

939
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: Jill Phillips, the Dolphins like defense played another good game.

940
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: They got so much pressure on how this. I thought

941
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: Howell played well in this game, which will sound crazy

942
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: because he had one hundred and twenty seven yards in

943
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: an interception. The interception to me is not on the quarterback.

944
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: It was a great read by Andrew van Ginkle, like

945
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: a play that they through film study. He just read

946
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: it and picked it off. Van Ginkel had a sack,

947
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 4: a pick six and almost blocked a pun and then yeah,

948
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 4: Seeler and ogbad getting pressure. They were all over how

949
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 4: who had a couple of rushing touchdowns. And he only

950
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 4: took three sacks in this game. This is one of

951
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: those where he could have taken about eight sacks in

952
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: this game.

953
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 5: You can't give somebody a staff for almost doing something.

954
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying he was amongst after stats.

955
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: I just made like vig Gego is everywhere.

956
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 4: And there was a moment like right after a pick

957
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 4: six and a sack that he then almost blocked the button.

958
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: I was just like, nice, was great. You know, I think, uh,

959
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: we now have Ron Rivera. He has now graduated, uh

960
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: to the uh Frank Reich dead man walking club.

961
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: It's no longer a matter of if, It's a matter

962
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: of when.

963
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: And there is certainly a case to be made here

964
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: and everyone out there wants Eric Pienemy to get a

965
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: shot as a head coach with his resume to give

966
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: the enemy, you know, four or five weeks.

967
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. I don't think you let you.

968
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: I don't think you just let him gocuse. I think

969
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 3: he's been he's been a big shot.

970
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: See what happens with the team, see how they play

971
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: with him, and see how the offense operates with him

972
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: kind of having more responsibility. Now I might look smart

973
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: if this happens on like tomorrow, would not shock me.

974
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: But they also just let go of the defensive coordinator

975
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: and that was kind of the blood letting that I

976
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: thought would take Rivera to the finish line.

977
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: And yet games like these make you think, like what

978
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: is the point, Like they're also going to they're entering

979
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: their bye week too, so.

980
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 5: Another reason why it could happen.

981
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it could.

982
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: And there was like a moment where Bienemy was kind

983
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: of like barking at Howell on the side. I just

984
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 4: don't know, Like it's not a good position for Bienemy

985
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: to be in either. I don't think it helps anyone.

986
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, Rivera's defense. The Dolphins only had nine drives.

987
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: In this game and they put up forty five points,

988
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: So it was rather that was rather a need and

989
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: a chain came back scored a couple of times. They

990
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, that was a kind of get right game.

991
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: That was a nice adjust I.

992
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Had not thought of it in roughly twenty five years.

993
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: But on NFL Primetime on ESPN. Back in the nineties,

994
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: Eric Benemy was a running back. Oh yeah, and Chris

995
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: Berman would call him sleeping.

996
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 5: With the enemy.

997
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Julia Roberts vehicle on one of his

998
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: best Yeah, maller and technicical. Now sleeping at the enemy

999
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: is that's a classic sleeping with the enemy.

1000
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: Good stuff. All right, here we go.

1001
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: We move forward because that's the only thing we can

1002
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: do across the sidewalk.

1003
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler was not in attendance, and maybe that was

1004
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: a good thing.

1005
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 15: So has seven seconds to work with as they set

1006
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 15: up from the thirty second and one from the pocket,

1007
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 15: he deals.

1008
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: Down the scene, hits pot, broke it field holcoh oh,

1009
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: that was pretty Pooka.

1010
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 11: To the crib, just touchdown.

1011
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: Alan.

1012
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: To the crib.

1013
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, we love our guy, Davey Long with the call,

1014
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: great guy, great announcer. Oh yeah.

1015
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford threw three touchdown passes and that guy pooking

1016
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: Akoua the first ever Rams rookie wide receiver across one

1017
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: thousand yards in the season.

1018
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: It's December third, how about that?

1019
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: Wow, the Rams keep winning. That's three in a row,

1020
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: sneaky three game winning streak. Thirty six nineteen over the

1021
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: Browns at so far mark that final score is misleading

1022
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: because we were sitting next to each other. The Browns have

1023
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: a chance to tie this game, I believe in the

1024
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: fourth quarter.

1025
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1026
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: And then what midway through down one right, Yeah, and

1027
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: you're one of the most reliable kickers in the league,

1028
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: misses an extra point and things go south from there

1029
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: and Dustin Hopkins, Dustin Hopkins, I think this this feels

1030
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: like a lot of Browns games. We're gonna get down

1031
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: the stretch because you got you had Joe Flacco. And

1032
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: I'll say one story for Cleveland is that I would

1033
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 3: not have been as surprise if we got a version

1034
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: of Joe Flacco that literally was a statue, couldn't move

1035
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: and any fumbles today, no, no fumbles through the ball.

1036
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: He had a stone age pony. He can do something.

1037
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: He also looked to me refreshed.

1038
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna he's he's not

1039
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: going to like like confuse anyone on the ground, but

1040
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: he didn't look like he looked to me last year

1041
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 3: with the Jets. I thought he threw the ball outside

1042
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: of you know, the one interception that was so costly,

1043
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: like threw the ball really well at times, and like

1044
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: you kind of it's like, oh, well, if you had

1045
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: this version of of a quarterback play like during this,

1046
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: Like you know, they've been on four of them and

1047
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: it's been real up and down. Maybe they win some

1048
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: of these close games, but I like this is an

1049
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 3: example of like Omari Cooper goes out with an injury,

1050
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 3: they've got very little else happening, you know, through the air,

1051
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: and like they're they're a patchwork ground game without Nick

1052
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: Chubb and so it's like they're the amount of mistakes

1053
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: they can make in a Ford is so narrow unless

1054
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: their defense has one of those games from Miles Garrett

1055
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: has three sacks and you're turning the ball over, you know,

1056
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: take generating takeaways, and they weren't doing that today.

1057
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a couple of weeks in.

1058
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: A row where it's kind of just like concerned about

1059
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: the overall journey of this Browns team. R I feel like

1060
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: other AFC teams at the bottom of that, like wild

1061
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: Card Grid are starting to heat up, like Cleveland's going

1062
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: in the other direction, and I don't really think you

1063
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: can rely on Joe Flacco and left of this offense

1064
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: to save you.

1065
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, midway through the fourth quarter, which is crazy

1066
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 4: looking at the final score. The brown score touchdown, they

1067
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: missed the extra point, but then they get a quick

1068
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: punt from the Rams and Joe Flacco actually has the

1069
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: ball with six point fifty one to go down one point.

1070
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: And at that point there were a lot of tweets

1071
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 4: and I was half watching this game too.

1072
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of drops.

1073
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: I thought Flacco was playing great, like Tony Grose's saying,

1074
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 4: this is the best game any quarterbacks played for the

1075
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: Browns this season. And then Flacco just forced one. He

1076
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 4: took a shot that he shouldn't have taken. John Johnson

1077
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 4: intercepts it, returns it, and suddenly the Rams are rolling.

1078
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: But you can tell me more, Mark that I was

1079
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 4: surprised to see the Rams rack up four hundred yards

1080
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 4: almost in this game. And I think Stafford played well

1081
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: and Pukinoku is great and they get the running game

1082
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: going late. But if you had just said, Okay, this

1083
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: is an average defense, they're playing like they looked like

1084
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: an average defense based on the stats.

1085
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: Did they look like that?

1086
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because it wasn't the way that the Rams.

1087
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: The Rams did it a lot through the air. I mean,

1088
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: Nakua fried them. They don't have Denzel Award and that's

1089
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: two weeks in a row. Yeah, they really miss him.

1090
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: I think that if you look at Jim Schwartz's defense

1091
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: is historically like they've shined when he's had like that

1092
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: shutdown corner and they're picking on other cornerbacks in this game.

1093
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: And like Nikua had one hundred plus yard because of

1094
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: that play right there, but he hit one hundred plus

1095
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: yards in the first quarter and then like what he

1096
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: looks like he had a nasty injury.

1097
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: It was a rib injury, but came back in.

1098
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 3: So it's like, this is a gritty young guy who

1099
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: like when you don't get big numbers from Cooper Cup

1100
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 3: Stafford Kaleen on him, and it's like they found different

1101
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: ways to beat a pretty banged up Browns defense.

1102
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: Browns didn't force a turnover, the Browns didn't have a sack.

1103
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: A lot of talk about the Browns is a historic

1104
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: defense that's kind of out the window now. They've been

1105
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: normal for a few weeks now. And I don't know

1106
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: if Males Garrett's healthy or not, but you know that's

1107
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: now a very quiet game and a big spot. And

1108
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. You know Joe Flacco.

1109
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: You know he's six foot six and he's got the howitzer.

1110
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Even on the Jets last year, if you protected him,

1111
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 2: he made some plays like he could so if they

1112
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: can block for him. He cannot play behind a bad

1113
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: offensive line at this stage of his career.

1114
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: But did they block for him. I'm sure he could

1115
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 1: keep this offense moving.

1116
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 2: But the defense has to rediscover that spark or yeah,

1117
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: they're going to fade out of this very quickly.

1118
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 5: The Ramps are interesting.

1119
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: This is their first greg three game winning streak since

1120
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: their Super Bowl season.

1121
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 4: Wow, and they're limiting teams. I think this is four

1122
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 4: street they've held opponents under twenty one points. The defense,

1123
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 4: which is so undermanned, gets better and better. Kobe Turner,

1124
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: a rookie, had a really nice game. But I think

1125
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: this was a reminder. Flaco's old, for sure, thirty eight

1126
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: years old, but it's easy to forget Matthew Stafford's thirty five,

1127
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: and he is just next freaking level. There was a

1128
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: play they hit a couple big plays to DeMarcus Robinson

1129
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: in the second half, and there was one where Kyron

1130
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 4: Williams is coming out of the back we field on

1131
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 4: a wheel route, and Stafford turns his whole soulder and

1132
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: Williams is open, turns his whole soulder to kind of

1133
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 4: look at him, doesn't even do a pumping, but just

1134
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 4: moves his feet and his shoulders to look at Kyrien.

1135
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 4: Williams gets the safety to bite and then just throws

1136
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: a total dime behind the safety on that touchdown to Niakua.

1137
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 4: That was an audible at the line of scrimmage. Sean

1138
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: McVay did not call that play, and so awesome. Stafford's

1139
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: operating at a really, really high level, and that's why

1140
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: they're six and six. He still is the biggest reason

1141
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: to me that they're six and six.

1142
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: You know what, Lebron James and Kareem Abdul Jabarbara booth

1143
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: at this game?

1144
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: Who at the football game?

1145
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 4: The two highest scoring players in the history of basket.

1146
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: But they're basketball players. I don't know, why would they

1147
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: be at the I don't know. It made no sense

1148
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: to me from that angle that they're not the same sport.

1149
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Doesn't it seem like we should have heard something by now?

1150
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: What I mean, how much more time do I have

1151
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 5: to buy for you, Bud.

1152
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why this is the most completely different

1153
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: in basketball now. I don't know why this is the

1154
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: drop for of all the drops that have gotten the

1155
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: most used. There was something highly comical about like flying

1156
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: up the rappaport connection, like ian was your supposed to

1157
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: from basketball?

1158
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: See, yeah, that one.

1159
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Right, an NFL insider saying that, So you know I'm

1160
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 3: getting but I agree.

1161
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: I think we all agree with you. So that's why

1162
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 2: I was surprised they were even at the football game.

1163
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I it is illogical, all right.

1164
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of ill logical, the Jets for the past twelve years,

1165
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: oh fifty twelve to the medal.

1166
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 10: Ends Boyle from under center here on second at nine,

1167
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 10: play fake to Dalvin Cook. Boyle wants to hang one

1168
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 10: up fort Garrett Wilson.

1169
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 8: And it's picked.

1170
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 10: Jesse Bates has got another one fifth interception of the

1171
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 10: year for Jesse Bates, and like last week, he read

1172
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 10: it from center field.

1173
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: In Atlanta.

1174
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 10: Celebrates the pick by Baits with twenty six seconds.

1175
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 5: To go into third.

1176
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that right there might be the final throw of

1177
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle's NFL career. Yes, another benefactor of the Aaron

1178
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: Rodgers Scholarship fund bit the dust on Sunday, be fuddled

1179
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: by the Falcons defense and an ugly thirteen to eight

1180
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: win for the NFC South leaders. Desmond Ritter back in

1181
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: the lineup for the second game. He threw a twenty

1182
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: yard touchdown pass to Mikole Pruitt in the second quarter.

1183
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: That was the only touchdown in the game, and that was.

1184
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: The only thing that you would really need to beat

1185
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 2: the Jets, who cannot score touchdowns. So the Falcons they

1186
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: keep their spot top the NFC South. However, man, if

1187
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: you want to talk yourself into the Falcons, go do

1188
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: it until you're blue in the face. And I'm not

1189
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: going to take anything away from him. They won this game,

1190
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: but I just I still don't see it with this team,

1191
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: and they could not get the running game going. They

1192
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: really won because how inept the other side of the

1193
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: ball is here.

1194
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: They're a tough watch.

1195
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: And I'm looking at this drive chart that the Jets

1196
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 3: had six drives that win for less than six yards,

1197
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and they seem to look at like it

1198
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: every week.

1199
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 9: And I guess i'd ask you this.

1200
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: Like, do you see the team con you mean to

1201
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: splinter and fracture or was this a little bit better?

1202
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: That's almost too exciting a faith for the Jets at

1203
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: this point, they just stink.

1204
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 5: They're a bad team.

1205
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: They are now on their third quarterback Trevor Simmons came

1206
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: in after that boil throw and was equally ineffective. It

1207
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: was so and credit the Falcons defense, Okay, you got it,

1208
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 2: because you know, you gotta win games in the league.

1209
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: And when the Jets took the field for their last possession,

1210
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: they are down. What are they down? They're down five

1211
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: points and they have the ball with less than two

1212
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 2: minutes to play. They don't have any timeouts, but they

1213
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: have the ball and they just have to go down

1214
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: the field and score a touchdown.

1215
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 5: There was no one watching this game.

1216
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: There was no one at Metlive Stadium that thought the

1217
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 2: Jets had any chance to go down the field. They

1218
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: had one completion on the drive to get near I

1219
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: think the forty yard line, and then they just marched

1220
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: backwards and didn't even come close. So the Falcons, you know,

1221
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 2: as frustrating and up and down as their offense has

1222
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: been this season, and again you would have liked to

1223
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: see their running game, you know, do better in this game.

1224
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: Their defense has been at times pretty good this year,

1225
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: and against a bad offense like the Jets and weather

1226
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: like this, it was miserable at the metal ends. They

1227
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: took advantage of their setup.

1228
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is sometimes I think the narrative's

1229
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: been played up too much that the Jets defense is

1230
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 4: just holding on, holding on, holding on some of those

1231
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: games that they haven't been, you know, pristine this game.

1232
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 4: You give up one hundred and ninety four yards, you

1233
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 4: give up three yards per play, You hold the Falcons

1234
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: running attack, which was outstanding last week, to ninety yards.

1235
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 4: You keep giving your offense a chance after chance after chance.

1236
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: The Jets offense had seven possessions in the second half.

1237
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: They did everything humanly possible. This was kind of the

1238
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 4: stereotypical Jets game that we've been talking about all years,

1239
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: and now they have the fewest touchdowns of any team

1240
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 4: through twelve games in thirty years. And I saw this

1241
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 4: stat from whoa from it was? I think it was

1242
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 4: on true media. I forget who tweeted out. I apologize,

1243
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: but two of the top five worst games of off

1244
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 4: target throws from quarterback, so they measure how many throws

1245
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 4: did you have in the game that gave your receiver

1246
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 4: no chance to even make the catch. Tim Boyle in

1247
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: this game was I think third worst all season, and

1248
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 4: Trevor Simeon was fifth worst.

1249
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: So it was like they.

1250
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 4: Can't find they can't find a quarterback who could just

1251
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: throw the ball. And I know there was bad weather,

1252
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: but it's like Ritter wasn't on that list.

1253
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 2: As I will do on these Sundays this season, because

1254
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: this has been, honestly, and there have been so many

1255
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: but in a lot of ways, the most frustrating worst

1256
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: Jets season ever because of the Rogers side of things,

1257
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: and maybe if there's any positive to this, this almost

1258
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: certainly should take Aaron Rodgers out of play trying to

1259
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: force his way back on the field because they are

1260
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: essentially eliminated at this point four and eight. I heard

1261
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: there were Zach Wilson apologists in my mentions being like, oh,

1262
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: and you wanted and you wanted Zack Wilson out of lineup.

1263
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it didn't work, but it.

1264
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: Was always a hail Mary to see if one of

1265
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: these guys could provide a spark.

1266
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Neither could, and now you have Bob Sala, who.

1267
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: Has completely been stripped of any dignity up on the

1268
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: press on the day of saying, oh, you know, you

1269
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 2: might be turning to another quarterback next week. And again,

1270
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: it didn't have to be over after Week one. Maybe

1271
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl dreams had to be over, but you

1272
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: could have still been competitive this year if you went

1273
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: out and got a real quarterback. You didn't, and like

1274
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 2: I said, you get what you deserve. So another gruesome

1275
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: Sunday at the Metal Lands. And the thing I worry

1276
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: about spinning forward now is, and I've seen it before,

1277
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,959
Speaker 2: they got some really talented it's a top heavy roster

1278
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: for the Jets, but a lot of talented young guys

1279
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: that are living through a gruesome season after a horrible

1280
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: ending to last season, and it's just bad energy and

1281
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: bad vibes, and that leads to negative talk and guys

1282
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: maybe not.

1283
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 5: Wanted to be in the building anymore.

1284
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: And they're seeing what's going on elsewhere in the league

1285
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 2: where people are having fun and winning games.

1286
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 5: It's gotten to that place for the Jets.

1287
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: So I don't know how much else needs to be

1288
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 2: said about this game. The Falcons took care of business,

1289
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: but I wasn't overly impressed by them. It was like

1290
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: a mediocre team against a team that is completely imploded

1291
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: and the mediocre team came out ahead.

1292
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel really ultimately incorrect about what I thought

1293
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: the Falcons would be. And they're just the middle of

1294
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: the road team and a terrible division. They're gonna get

1295
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: an extra game in January that I don't need to watch.

1296
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: But maybe maybe there's there's six and sent that they're

1297
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 4: in that world, there's six and six, so that gives

1298
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: them a one game lead over the Saints and the Bucks.

1299
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 4: Hopefully it's only one NFC South team to sneak in,

1300
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: although if the you know, the Falcons are at six

1301
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 4: and six, they were one of four teams we just

1302
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 4: mentioned the Rams that are at six and six.

1303
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: It might turn into five. It's a six and sick

1304
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: God help us, and they.

1305
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 9: Get two teams from that Southern Probably won't happen.

1306
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: Probably won't happen. A. J.

1307
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 4: Terrell got hurt in this game, by the way, their

1308
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: best defensive day after losing Grady Jarrett.

1309
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Speaker 1: You know they need him back, all right, let's see,

1310
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: let's see.

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00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 5: Let us move to you're dying with anticipation Arch.

1312
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: Let's move to Pittsburgh, where the Steelers are looking to

1313
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: continue their quest twelve and five.

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00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 15: They're down on a yard on the nine. Three tight

1315
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 15: ends Murray under center, Connor behind him, one receiver to

1316
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 15: the right. They hand it off Connor.

1317
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 3: To the left.

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00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 15: First down, Connor dies for the end zone touchdown. James

1319
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 15: Connor with two scores and the welcome back party in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: All the Carls just.

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 8: Broke out the black and blue brigade.

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00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 13: Baby light up and suck the beating heart leaf.

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 8: Speaking of your opponents.

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Whoa put that to clip it?

1325
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: And I know, Eric, you know when we're saying this,

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00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: do we have a folder of the top calls of

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00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: the year. I have a folder because because once again

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00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: Ron wolf Lee is announcing this is my competition to lose.

1329
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: I like that, he clarified, metaphorically, speaking right. James Connor,

1330
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: the former Steeler, ran for a buck five and two touchdowns,

1331
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: including the game Icer and the Cardinals beat the Steelers

1332
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: twenty four to ten at the field formerly known as Hines.

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: It's their first win in Pittsburgh since the Summer of Love, Mark, which.

1334
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 9: Was nineteen sixty nine. Well, it depends who you are, but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct, and Gregy, I mean, oh soon, come

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00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: on now, Steelers.

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00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 5: We can't.

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: We can't. It can't be December and we're losing games

1339
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: to the tanking card.

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 4: We can't this for a game that was delayed by

1341
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 4: lightning multiple times in Pittsburgh in December, come back to us,

1342
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 4: mother Nature.

1343
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: It's a high desert team flying across the country. They're

1344
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: just looking to get this game over.

1345
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,919
Speaker 4: With right, And at one point was twenty four to three.

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 4: It was highly entertaining and surprising. Sometimes you watch a

1347
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: game and you're just not expecting it to go a

1348
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 4: certain way, and late in the second quarter of this game,

1349
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: it was going how we expected that the Steelers had

1350
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 4: out gained the Cardinals at that point one sixty one

1351
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 4: to thirty six, and then a two play sequence on

1352
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 4: the goal line changed everything. Kenny Pickett scrambled trying to

1353
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 4: score at the four, he got to the one yard line,

1354
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 4: he hurt his ankle. We're now hearing again that it's

1355
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: a significant injury according to Jerry Dulac, and that he

1356
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: just said not good and that'll miss some time, extended time.

1357
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 4: So if it's an ankle injury too.

1358
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: He's ducked serious and you just get hurt every few.

1359
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 4: Weeks and he takes a lot of big hits, so

1360
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: that sounds like a multiple week injury. In comes Trubisky.

1361
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: He hands it off to Nase Harris. It's three to

1362
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: three at the time, even though the Steelers have totally dominated,

1363
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: they hand it to Harris.

1364
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: He gets stoned at the one.

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 4: Well, at least he got the Steelers defense backed up

1366
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 4: or playing against the Cardinals, who have ever done anything

1367
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 4: backed up. Kyler Murray leads one of the most epic

1368
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: drives of the year, fifteen plays, ninety ninety yards for

1369
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: a touchdown, and you know what, Kyler Murray played fantastic

1370
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: the rest of the game. So did James Connor, and

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Speaker 4: they kind of dominated the second half of this game.

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01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 4: Trey McBride went wild the second year, tight and eight

1373
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 4: for eighty.

1374
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: Nine in a touchdown.

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01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 4: He dominated that that ninety nine yard drive and I

1376
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 4: was just floored by how much this game changed in

1377
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 4: that sequence.

1378
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: That fifteen play touchdown drive was Arizona's longest march since

1379
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen.

1380
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 4: That you know what else is it's the longest march

1381
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 4: in NFL history. I mean yards wides, you can't can't

1382
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 4: top it. It's tied a bit.

1383
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 9: And on top it can't beat it. I have a

1384
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 9: weird stat from this game.

1385
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 5: Weirder than what Greg just said. I guess that was weird.

1386
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 9: I think it's I'd say it's less trenches.

1387
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 5: Okay.

1388
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray at five to ten in a quarter inches

1389
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: to rondeel Moore, who's five to seven.

1390
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: Their touchdown combination.

1391
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 3: Is the shortest duo to connect for a touchdown since

1392
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: Pard Pierce, who was five foot five, threw a touchdown

1393
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: to Dutch s Tournament was five foot eight on the

1394
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty Decatur Staley's I think it was football.

1395
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Wow, it's a different sport, Gunners. That's pretty good. Although

1396
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: they dead that came from Adam Harstadt and that was

1397
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: fa That was one of my favorite plays and throws

1398
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: of the week, and they actually called it back because

1399
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: of a holding call.

1400
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 4: But he has thrown touchdowns to rondel Moore in the past,

1401
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: I believe, so that would still be a true statement unless.

1402
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 3: One of them was much taller when that happened.

1403
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was Kyler.

1404
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 4: You look at the box score and you see one

1405
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: hundred and forty five yards on twenty three attempts at

1406
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: a touchdown, you think, okay, it was good game, nothing crazy,

1407
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 4: but he had two of the best throws I saw

1408
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: a week. One was would have been a sixty yard

1409
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: play to Moore who dropped it, and the other was

1410
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 4: like a forty yard touchdown to More where Moore made

1411
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 4: a great play. It was a great throw on the

1412
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 4: run and it ends up getting called back. And it

1413
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 4: was very confusing because they never showed flag on the

1414
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: on the broadcast got suddenly they just are lining up again.

1415
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 9: But wow, they brought us asleep at the wheel.

1416
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: Little James Connor revenge game in Pittsburgh, it was fun.

1417
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 2: How about Mike Tomlin, who's got to be I mean,

1418
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: we know our boy Mike t the Aviators. He had

1419
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: to be furious with his Steelers laying an egg against

1420
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: the Cards.

1421
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 5: Let's listen, you know that was a horrible day at

1422
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,919
Speaker 5: the office. We didn't do much right in that game,

1423
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 5: to be quite honest with you.

1424
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 13: So we got to own that obviously, starting first and

1425
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 13: foremost with me.

1426
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 5: Just losing football.

1427
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: A lot of it was like bad snaps called it JV.

1428
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: He said it was a JV. Performed had a lot

1429
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: of bad penalties.

1430
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: Team, Yeah, they had a lot of big penalties. Nine

1431
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 4: for seventy seven, and they're usually one of the least

1432
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 4: penalty teams. They had like three different bad snaps, so

1433
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 4: you'll see in the box score that Trubisky and Picket

1434
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 4: both had fumbles, but those were the bad stumps. They

1435
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 4: lost one, so they set up a short field. Like

1436
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: the Cardinals, touchdowns were often other than the ninety nine

1437
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: yard one. We're on short fields, and yeah, it was

1438
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 4: just sloppy. Trubisky wasn't great, but he took a couple

1439
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: of shots. He wasn't He wasn't a disaster. It was

1440
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: just they got down fast in a hurry, and JJ

1441
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: Watt went out with an injury. He did say after

1442
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: the game, JJ Watt did our TJ Watt sorry, that

1443
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: he's fine and he'll be playing on Thursday.

1444
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that says.

1445
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be that guy because you guys

1446
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: are excited about it, but I just couldn't get on

1447
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: board with this Pittsburgh offense turning the corner talk this

1448
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: week and then this game happens and I have to

1449
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: watch it. But it's just like, even when they were

1450
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: putting up more yards, they still weren't scoring points.

1451
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: And once again, they can't. You can't score.

1452
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was a reminder their running game

1453
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: was working great until the moment they got stuffed on

1454
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 4: the goal line. But when you suddenly get down two

1455
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: touchdowns like that kind of went out the window.

1456
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 3: Well that's so called explosion happened against the Bengals team

1457
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: with zero offense.

1458
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 9: Right now in the defense thought and.

1459
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: It included again sixteen points, as Dan pointed out, normal

1460
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, this guy, this guy McBride who again

1461
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 4: for the seventeen people like myself who watched all or

1462
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: Nothing and Trey McBride was featuring out hard knocks in

1463
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 4: the very likable guy who had very little role last year.

1464
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 4: I think he is their leading receiver for the season

1465
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: now Dan, which maybe is not a great thing, but

1466
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 4: he's on pace for over eight hundred yards. That's pretty

1467
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 4: big time for a tight end.

1468
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: Let's big weapons in the off season. It's hands Mark.

1469
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: We got to to get twelve and five.

1470
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: Now, we got to be Patriots at Indy verse Sincy,

1471
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: at Seahawks, at Ravens, need them all.

1472
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna happen in the Cardinals. It's not happening.

1473
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: Thank you Cardinals for winning this game and helping out

1474
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: the tankathon exploits of the Patriots. Here, let's take a

1475
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: break and then we'll hit those patriots.

1476
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 5: Good leading.

1477
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: Think we got something here that's think Welcome back to

1478
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, the flagship show.

1479
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 5: Hey, I was thinking.

1480
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 2: I was thinking because I came into the studio before

1481
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: we started recording, came in a little hot, came in thinking,

1482
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: you know, how if the NFL ever like invested in

1483
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,919
Speaker 2: some type of promotional campaign for our show.

1484
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 5: Hasn't really happened yet, but doesn't mean.

1485
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: It can't happen.

1486
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: You know, they started to flex our financial might what

1487
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: fifteen billion dollar company? Yeah, all of a sudden they

1488
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: start running ads on Sunday for Around.

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01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: The That would be fun.

1490
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they'll get to that soon. So I

1491
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: just had an idea that popped into my head. Exterior.

1492
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: Two dads at a playground in a park, Okay, okay,

1493
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: And then so dad one's like, oh man, it's so

1494
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: hard to keep up with everything going on in this world,

1495
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: especially in the NFL, you know, because my wife is dead.

1496
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: And then the other guy comes in and their kids

1497
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: are playing in the background, and he's like, well, I

1498
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: got something for you. Other guy's like oh, a new wife.

1499
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I have the Around the NFL podcast,

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01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: And then the guy with the dead wife goes, I

1501
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: don't need another show all about x'es and o's of

1502
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: the game.

1503
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 5: And then the other guy.

1504
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 2: Goes, Nah, these shows a little more than just about

1505
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: the x'es and o's.

1506
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 5: End of commercial.

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Speaker 4: I think it also could you could have different versions

1508
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 4: where like it's all the same except his last line

1509
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: is different, and it's like, actually, these guys have a

1510
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: lot of fun too.

1511
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: That's good, you know what I mean. And so that's

1512
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: that you're building and building different variations, and it's unclear

1513
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: how the wife perished.

1514
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, you could have a last

1515
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 2: shot of him being like, well, off to the cemetery.

1516
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that seems like a downer. Seems like a downer.

1517
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 9: I think our show would mask over a lost line.

1518
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, it's like.

1519
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: That would be that would get people talking.

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they take they take their jobs really seriously,

1521
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: but they don't take themselves too seriously.

1522
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, these guys love ball, but it's not just

1523
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: about the ball.

1524
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: They have fun, very organic conversation. It's like yours. It's

1525
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: like you're friends with them. These are like the three

1526
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 3: buddies in the bar, especially if you're from northern Scotland.

1527
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: There's Scotland coming up again on the show Great Country

1528
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: that anyone's listening from the ad department?

1529
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,879
Speaker 3: Just why have they never why have they never invested

1530
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: even a penny on our shows before?

1531
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: I've never heard anything anything from the third floor. Maybe

1532
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: that's for the best.

1533
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's head to Foxborough where the bizarre misery continued.

1534
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: For Greg's patriots Herbert to throw.

1535
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 12: As a man, it's the game, Alex Erickson.

1536
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: When the game demanded, excel.

1537
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 12: Etta, do not shrink when the lights are the brightest.

1538
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 12: He puts the ball in his most valuable weapons hands

1539
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 12: and justin Herbert delivers the victory.

1540
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: Put that on the list.

1541
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 5: That's pretty good.

1542
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 2: You gotta know money like you got a chance to

1543
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: work with money for a few years of powering. The

1544
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: man's got a keen sense of humor and a dry wit.

1545
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: You could you could hear the sarcasm pulsing through that call.

1546
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 2: And again, also, if you're gonna put any other guy

1547
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: from San Diego too, If you're gonna put you're gonna

1548
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: take money out of seal beach where he's doing his

1549
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: surfing at six am, and you're gonna put him on

1550
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,480
Speaker 2: a plane and send him to New England in December

1551
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: for this nothing burger of a game. At least get

1552
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: a w Chargers and they do as Cameron Dicker made

1553
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: two thirty eight yard field goals Hunter JK. Scott, Oh,

1554
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: he's been in the Pats inside the twenty all day,

1555
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: seven times in the in the and rain, and Herbert

1556
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 2: picked up that late completion. Mark Sessler six nothing the final, WHOA.

1557
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: This was the worst football game I've ever watched?

1558
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 5: Is it?

1559
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: Wow?

1560
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 5: Six nothing?

1561
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Two field goals, two short field goals.

1562
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'd say from a distance, I'd kind of

1563
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 3: be into that kind of a game because it stands

1564
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 3: out is something very usual dog type of game.

1565
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: You're right unwatchable.

1566
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: How so, Bailey Zappi is in there, Yon Uh is

1567
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 3: a worse than Mac Jones. I think it's hard to

1568
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: detect who is worse because there's also nothing around them.

1569
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

1570
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: They lost Formandri Stevenson with an ankleer injury pretty early

1571
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: in this and that's really all they seem to have.

1572
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: I thought Zappi's day was characterized by a pretty great

1573
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 3: deep shot in the third quarter the trailing six nothing

1574
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: horrible drop by Tykwon Thornton. It's like they just can't

1575
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: get anything done. The Patriots defense looked good because that's

1576
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 3: the Chargers. The Chargers are spiralingly a little on offense.

1577
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 3: They cannot run the ball, they have no balance the Patriots.

1578
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: This is a This is a wacky stat They are

1579
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,799
Speaker 3: the first team to lose three straight games despite allowing

1580
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: ten or fewer points in those three games since go

1581
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: back to nineteen thirty eight to the Chicago Cardinals. Every

1582
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 3: other team this year that has allowed fewer than ten

1583
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: ten or fewer points is fifty three and zero. That

1584
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 3: this offense is so bad. Three yeah, this offense is

1585
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 3: so bad. They're so unwatchable. And yet I kind of think,

1586
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess we don't know where anyone where

1587
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 3: Belichick will be after all that. It's like what they

1588
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 3: did last year by or last week by you know,

1589
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: I think overtly missing that final field goal and try

1590
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 3: to miss I don't know, I you.

1591
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: Know, weren't playing for the win. That remains like the

1592
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: jury is out.

1593
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: In my opinion on that, that was drastic. I mean,

1594
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: it's kind of working out perfectly. They're so bad that

1595
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 3: they're probably gonna guess get snagged the number one number.

1596
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,919
Speaker 2: And I'll take it a step further. Everyone's connecting Belichick

1597
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 2: to the Chargers. I don't know whether there's actual logic

1598
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: to it, Well, there's logic but actual smoke to it,

1599
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 2: or if there's.

1600
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: Fire to it or what.

1601
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: But not only did you lose again, and it's it's

1602
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: remarkable how badly this season has gone. I never thought

1603
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 2: it could get this bad for Bill belichicking doing because no,

1604
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: and I'm not I don't even want to go down

1605
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: the road of like if he's really the greatest coach

1606
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: of all time, how could this be happening, because there's

1607
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on here. But like you know,

1608
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: he also made the Chargers look bad again in its

1609
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: own way, So it's another nail and the coffin of

1610
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Stalley despite getting the win in a way, so

1611
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theories continue.

1612
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to Renferral, like wo Staley's defense just

1613
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 1: pitched the shutout.

1614
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 3: No, so that's a thing like that is it's not

1615
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: all negative because I like I'm losing hope in their offense.

1616
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 9: Quentin Johnson another terrible drop today.

1617
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh that was awful.

1618
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's happening every week, so I don't

1619
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 3: know if it's there's no new story there.

1620
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: But Khalil Mack had two more secks. He has fifty.

1621
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: He leads the NFL with fifty.

1622
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: When I saw that on Twitter, I was thinking to myself, Okay,

1623
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: we know he had that insane when he had seven,

1624
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: So that's always gonna juice it. But he has a

1625
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: chance to challenge for the all time sack record Khalil Mack,

1626
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: he's twenty three, Yeah, that could happen. He certainly could

1627
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: challenge for a twenty sex season, which only about what

1628
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: twenty guys or whatever.

1629
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 4: All he's got to do is play Zappi and Indan

1630
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 4: O'Connell every week and he'll he'll get it done because Zappy,

1631
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: the little I watched, was just holding onto the ball

1632
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 4: forever on some of those plays. But this still fifteen sacks, No, Still,

1633
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: he has been third. He's been fantastic this year. That

1634
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 4: the thing that gets me, and it happened these last

1635
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 4: two weeks with this team is Belichick has spent more

1636
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 4: money and more time and he's so worried about the details,

1637
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: and he invests in all these special teams only players,

1638
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: and their special teams are terrible, their bottom five and

1639
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 4: Dvoa their kicker who they drafted and got rid of

1640
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: focus terrible. And then every other time I was I

1641
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 4: looked at this game, you got Bryce Behringer, who's one

1642
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 4: of the worst punters in the league. Bryce Behringer, who's

1643
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 4: another rookie punter who they also drafted. The drafted a punter,

1644
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 4: and the kickers, and like the difference in punting in

1645
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 4: this game and the kicker, like, it's just if you've

1646
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 4: lost that with Belichick. I know the defense has been

1647
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 4: playing well, and yeah they have been. Uh it's still

1648
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 4: not good.

1649
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 5: But we could save this conversation.

1650
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: But how is it?

1651
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: How is Bill Belichick presiding over something this truly dreadful?

1652
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: How has this happened? How could it happen?

1653
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 4: Well, it's been in the same place, and he has

1654
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 4: no checks on his power. And the few people that

1655
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 4: maybe not had checks on his power, but would you know,

1656
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 4: answer to him or like have some power in the organization.

1657
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: They're all they're all long gone. Nick Casserio, he's long gone,

1658
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: Like they're all Tom Brady's long gone of course as well,

1659
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: that's for a long time. Yes, let's hear from Bill Belichick.

1660
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: Awkward press conferences are the norm, and now you know

1661
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: he's forced to answer these questions about his own job security.

1662
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: Bill, do you want to stay here and keep coaching

1663
01:14:59,360 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots?

1664
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 5: I look forward to this weekend right for a Steelers

1665
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 5: read that.

1666
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 2: You know that's kind of a Bill answer, But it

1667
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 2: all feels like the beginning.

1668
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 5: Of the end.

1669
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 3: You and I are getting Steelers Patriots on Thursday nights in.

1670
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a little trubisky zapp dog. How about this?

1671
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: The world is getting Jets Patriots in week eighteen. It's

1672
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 2: not like many people watch at the Earth like ready

1673
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: to eviscerate everything that lives upon it.

1674
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: I take the medior.

1675
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 4: By the way, the Chargers in the AFC at five

1676
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 4: and seven are two games back of a playoff spot.

1677
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 4: You can't totally ax them out. But if they were

1678
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 4: in the NFC, it'd say they'd have a chance. In

1679
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 4: the AFC, two games back with five games to play

1680
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 4: and a lot of teams to hop is a lot.

1681
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 5: But can't do that.

1682
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: They have to just win out essentially and go there,

1683
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: which they will not be doing they will not be

1684
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: doing that. Most likely.

1685
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: We're in that of the year where we have these

1686
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 3: conversations and you're just waiting for the slow crawl of

1687
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: time to remove these teams permanently and mathematically.

1688
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's head to Tampa where the Panthers and

1689
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,440
Speaker 2: Bucks did battle in the downpour.

1690
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 11: The snap of Goodwin bell Hide dropping to throw Bryce

1691
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 11: Young flushed out of the pocket, flushed down the holds

1692
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 11: the ball upfield. It is in a sap that packed

1693
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 11: pop with the forty three yard line and John magnificent

1694
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 11: Antwuan wentfield want he was up. The whole hung theel

1695
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 11: was an inn second shaster down to the sideline and

1696
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 11: Young those a pick and the Bucks.

1697
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: Happened the Great Jean decker Hoff with a call.

1698
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Antoine Winfield.

1699
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: When it looked as if the Panthers could somehow find

1700
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: a way, Bryce Young threw it up for grabs. Winfield

1701
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 2: came away from the ball with the ball through the

1702
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: from the sideline, steps from the sideline, and the Buccaneers

1703
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: escape with a twenty one to eighteen.

1704
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 5: Win over the Mori Bun.

1705
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers, playing their first game without Frank Reich.

1706
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 5: So what to take away from this game.

1707
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: First of all, let's let's look on Mike Evans.

1708
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: Just when this game appeared to be slipping away from

1709
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: the Bucks and Baker was having a miserable game, he

1710
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: was averaging like four yards. In attempt, he hits Evans

1711
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: over the middle. Evans goes down the sideline like a

1712
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: house on fire. He dives toward the pylon. They mark

1713
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: him down at the one, as the officials often were today,

1714
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: they were wrong. He actually cleared the pylon and upon review,

1715
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: he gets credited with the touchdown as he deserves seventy

1716
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: five yards. Changed the game, got everybody back in line,

1717
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 2: and gave Baker a stat line that you wouldn't be

1718
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 2: afraid to show to your family. Evans finished with seven

1719
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 2: for one sixty two. He is now over one thousand yards.

1720
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: He has now gone over one thousand yards for ten

1721
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 2: concent executive seasons. Jerry Rice has the record of eleven

1722
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 2: straight seasons. Wild and It's funny. I think it was

1723
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: Nick Westling who texted me at the beginning of the

1724
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 2: year and says, like Mike Evans doesn't get enough respect.

1725
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: He should be in the Superstar club. Look what this

1726
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: guy's done. And the interesting thing about Evans' career is

1727
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 2: he's gone over one thousands. I just said, every single

1728
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: year for a decade. He has ten touchdowns this year,

1729
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who the quarterback is. And he had that

1730
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: golden period with Brady, but he's also played with a

1731
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: lot of ham and Eggers, Mark and Baker is you know,

1732
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: kind of on the upper scale of that type of

1733
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: group of quarterback. He is just an incredible player. So

1734
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a superstar, but I think

1735
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer right.

1736
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 3: Because, I mean, you know, literally, Jerry Rice is one

1737
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: of the greatest players of all time.

1738
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 9: But Jerry Rice had great quarterback play.

1739
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: Around him, and he didn't do it to art the career.

1740
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 4: This is a record in terms of starting his career that,

1741
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: like Evans, is just way ahead of anyone else.

1742
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 3: I think one thing about Evans this year's simply because

1743
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 3: I remember they were just an unwatchable mess on offense

1744
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 3: for much of last season and it was like tons

1745
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: Tom Brady and Tom Brady and Evans were not on

1746
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: the same page. When Baker's been good, I mean, Baker

1747
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: and Evans have had a pretty good connection from wire

1748
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: to wire this season, and it's just another example of

1749
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: like Evans adjusting to whatever's around him and being that consistent.

1750
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 4: Right, and he could he I think he only topped

1751
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 4: fourteen hundred yards once. He had a fifteen hundred yard

1752
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 4: season in twenty eighteen. I mean, he's got a chance

1753
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 4: to even get there this year. He's in a contracts

1754
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 4: on pace for about fourteen hundred yards. Yeah, he's in

1755
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 4: a contract year. Between him and Winfield, they actually have

1756
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: two teams, two guys that have a chance.

1757
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:39,919
Speaker 1: Evans probably isn't gonna.

1758
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 4: Make All Pro because the receivers so tough to make that,

1759
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 4: but I think Winfield has a chance. I really have

1760
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 4: just been so impressed by Winfield each and every week.

1761
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 4: He had a sack, two tackles for the lost three

1762
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 4: passes defense, He had the interception eight times. I just

1763
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,480
Speaker 4: haven't seen a more impactful safety. So that's been a weekly.

1764
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: Thing with him.

1765
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: He is Evans, and we'll move off Evans, but he

1766
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 2: is an interesting player, and he's kind of the fascinating

1767
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 2: greg when you get to your free agency one oh one. Yeah,

1768
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 2: I think age thirty one season, one of the most

1769
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: consistent players in the history of the sport, Like, what

1770
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: kind of market would he have Anyway?

1771
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 5: The Bucks in the NFC South, which is bad.

1772
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: As we've stated, that was only the second win for

1773
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay in the last eight games, but now that

1774
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: they are in a tie for second place in the division,

1775
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: so they are in the mix. And it wasn't always

1776
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: pretty in this game, but they got the job done

1777
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 2: on the other side of the ball. No Basachia bump

1778
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: here for the Panthers, who were competitive in the rainy conditions,

1779
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: but they're still just you're not seeing anything with this offense.

1780
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: Chuba Hubbard did some things, got in the end zone

1781
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: twice for him, but I just just don't see it.

1782
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 2: I have this theory that I'm working on. I'm work

1783
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: shopping that Bryce Young is getting one in shorter every

1784
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 2: week now, so now he's about five or six at

1785
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: the top many more weeks. The pocket feels impossibly muddy

1786
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 2: around him. And there was one play in this game

1787
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: where the rush was coming, he kind of just turned

1788
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: and threw it behind him and it bounced that a

1789
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 2: bounds for a fumble and earths like there was another

1790
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: play it was a big I believe it was a

1791
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 2: third down where it was very clear he had to

1792
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 2: check out of a play and he doesn't, and they

1793
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: run right into a big loss where they're showing a

1794
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 2: blitz and he just doesn't see it. So whoever it

1795
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: is that's tasked with kind of getting him on the

1796
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: right track, he just has They have a lot of work.

1797
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's a lost year and it's like it's gonna

1798
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 3: be an off season of a billion storylines about how

1799
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 3: now he feels comfortable and it's it's a new start.

1800
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's been a rough spot.

1801
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 3: But like I thought that final, that fourth down game ender,

1802
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 3: like he had a chance to if he were little,

1803
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 3: if he were reacting more quickly to hit Adam Feeling

1804
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,520
Speaker 3: it was like it shouldn't have happened the way it happened.

1805
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: Like it was just anothers right, somebody's just.

1806
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 3: Sort of like not really, there's not a part of

1807
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: it where you see. It's crazy to me that he

1808
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: outdueled if that's how you want to put it.

1809
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 5: C J.

1810
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 3: Stroud in the one time they met, like it was

1811
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 3: like the most atypical.

1812
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 5: Game duel that strong.

1813
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: You know, to go and have won that game.

1814
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 9: It feels like four years ago.

1815
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: It's out played slightly. I would I would say best game.

1816
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,799
Speaker 1: I think usually out duled is like two y athletes

1817
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: playing on a high fifty the other.

1818
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 4: I could be wrong. I don't think the Panthers scored

1819
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 4: a touchdown in that game. I believe they won with

1820
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 4: five field goals. But I was getting a lot of

1821
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 4: texts that you mentioned they didn't get the Bassachia bump.

1822
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 4: But according to our friend Spice Rack, the fired coach

1823
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 4: principal at least in terms of the desert is nine

1824
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 4: and oh since September twenty O.

1825
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: I can't I can't fact check.

1826
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 4: This mean he's including, he's including college, but Carolina kept

1827
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: it closer than expected.

1828
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 1: It is my point here, you.

1829
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: Don't get credit for the bassac bump when you lose. Now,

1830
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: this isn't We're not all in the desert. Okay, Now

1831
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: that's for teams that win after the firing.

1832
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 4: I do want to use his comparison ails who win,

1833
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: because he was going nuts because he wanted the Panthers

1834
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 4: to do better and win this game, and at one

1835
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 4: point the fire, he was on fire, comparing Young to

1836
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 4: Bryce Young in terms of his body language, saying it

1837
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: was identical Bryce Young to Achilles Smith was his comparisons,

1838
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 4: but he wants to be anywhere by here. I will

1839
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 4: just push back just just a little slightly, which is

1840
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 4: just it reminds me a little bit, maybe because they're

1841
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 4: all number one picks. Alex Smith's rookie season was the

1842
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 4: worst top pick or really rookie pick I've ever seen,

1843
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: and he bounced back pretty quick to be okay.

1844
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: And Eli and Jared Goff were close.

1845
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 4: So all those guys were in a similar situation where

1846
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 4: they they showed almost no bright spots their entire rookie season.

1847
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's happened before.

1848
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,680
Speaker 3: There's something else here though, Like, yeah, you're right, and

1849
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 3: it's like there needs to be patients. But I really

1850
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 3: watch Bryce Young and feel like, to your point, Dan,

1851
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: like he plays small, and it's like, I don't know

1852
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: if he's not Eli Manning, you.

1853
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: Know, his prototypical perfect quarterback type build.

1854
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: Right, Like he is small. It is he plays small.

1855
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: He's small, and he's getting sacked. They're on pace to

1856
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 2: Carolina line is not helping him. He's on pace to

1857
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: be sacked sixty six times, which is almost the team record.

1858
01:23:54,280 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: So that's a recipe for disaster as well. Oh Man

1859
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: they are hot on our tails. Greg in the in

1860
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: the pits competition, they are right behind us now two games.

1861
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 1: You should have seen a face when when you said

1862
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: us just now, He's like, what is this narrative?

1863
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 5: Dan, You're wrong right now? Greg? And what is our record? Greg? Eleven?

1864
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: And what are you talking? I'm eleven in one. You're

1865
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: one to o jumping on with me. Actually you're not

1866
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: because the one week I got wrong. Now the three

1867
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: of us all did it together. Well, there's a lot

1868
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: of different standings of play.

1869
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: So I'm one and one when we picked, I'm talking one,

1870
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: and since I just got on the train, I'm one

1871
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: and one overall. After they blew up the entire operation,

1872
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 2: after the horrible Joe Burray injury designation UH fiasco. And

1873
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,919
Speaker 2: then if you want to look at the the broader,

1874
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: I think I'm I don't want to eleven.

1875
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 9: I don't want to look at the broader like I

1876
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 9: think this is a this is a farce.

1877
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 2: You want to join the Rosenthal train because it was

1878
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: a it was a little bit of a bumpy ride today,

1879
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: but weed on the champagne and eating Caveo.

1880
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 3: I locked up the Niners with confidence and never for

1881
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: a second had any concern about that.

1882
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 5: Affair us job, that was a good luck get it.

1883
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 5: We all got done. Yeah, right across the board.

1884
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 3: I'll travel my own path though, You're a brave man.

1885
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 3: Me makes second to last place.

1886
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 5: So it's just me. It's Greg in the motorcycle and

1887
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 5: me in the sidecar.

1888
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: This is one of the most bizarre podcast strategies you

1889
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,520
Speaker 1: ever had. Storyline Right Sunday Night Football.

1890
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 13: Three receivers right, shootable life, snapped to my homes looking,

1891
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 13: steps up, scrambling left, still looking still waiting, fires it

1892
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 13: into the end zone, broken up, incomplete and.

1893
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Dagger your dagger. The game is over.

1894
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 13: The Packers have defeated the Chiefs twenty seven to nineteen.

1895
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I what a moment for this young team.

1896
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: Wayne Laravie with the call for Packers Radio, and yes,

1897
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: it is a big moment for the green Bay Packers,

1898
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 2: a team on the rise now uh six and after

1899
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: a twenty seven to nineteen win over the mighty chief

1900
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Well are the Chiefs mighty? I'm not sure about that anymore,

1901
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 2: but a big win for the Packers coming off obviously

1902
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: a huge Thanksgiving win over the Lions, and all of

1903
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: a sudden green Bay looks like a team that makes

1904
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: some real noise in a wide open NFC. And boys, look,

1905
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: we got to start unfortunately, and we're gonna We're gonna

1906
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: give the Packers their flowers, but we got to talk

1907
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: about what everybody's gonna be talking about, which is an

1908
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: absolute meltdown by the officiating crew in the final minute

1909
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 2: and a half of this game.

1910
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 5: I'm actually looking at it right now.

1911
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 2: Boys, there were you can make the case that they

1912
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: blew five calls in the final sixty five seconds of

1913
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: the game. Patrick Mahomes scrambles out of bounds at the

1914
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 2: CAC forty for ten yards. They penalize Owen's on green

1915
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 2: Bay for unnecessary roughness. Bogus call, not the right call,

1916
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: not even.

1917
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 4: A question, and was an emphasis on the by the

1918
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 4: rules committee in the offseason to not let quarterbacks bait

1919
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 4: defenders into those costs.

1920
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: And they still Terry McCauley comes in for NBC says, hey,

1921
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: this is the wrong call.

1922
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 5: This is that you cannot throw a flag here.

1923
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 2: The very next play, Patrick Mahomes to Rashid Rice for

1924
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 2: ten yards, he's down by contact. They rule it a

1925
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: fumble that gets overt turned on review. But that even

1926
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: has a butterfly effect by missing that call and ruling

1927
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: rice up when the pall comes out. That leads to

1928
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: the Pachenko fight Isaya Pachenko fight where he takes a

1929
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: swing and he gets suspended. That's a missed call, overturned

1930
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: on review.

1931
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 3: And that took about twenty seven minutes, it felt like

1932
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:41,759
Speaker 3: for them to sort.

1933
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 5: All that out.

1934
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: Then you have Patrick Mahomes dropping back to pass and

1935
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 2: he unfurls a deep ball to Marquez Valdez Scantling a

1936
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 2: clear pass interference once again, no doubt about it. They

1937
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,440
Speaker 2: do not throw the flag again. They bring in McCauley

1938
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 2: and McCall. He says, yeah, that is obvious past interference.

1939
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: It should also be said that mvs also made a

1940
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 2: catch on the play prior to that, where he had

1941
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: his forward momentum had stopped and he's moving backwards as

1942
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 2: he's pushed out of bounds, but the side jes rules

1943
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 2: that he was able to stop the clock.

1944
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 5: That's a blown call. And then finally, and I know.

1945
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 2: This one is gonna be one, especially Packer fans are

1946
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 2: gonna say, shut up, Dan, but a hail mary throw

1947
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 2: and it's not really even a hail mary guys.

1948
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 5: It was from the thirty three yard line.

1949
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis Kelcey gets a two handed shove in the

1950
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: back as the balls approaching the end zone, taking him

1951
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,719
Speaker 2: out of the play. And yes, Greg, you can say

1952
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: on that play, nobody throws the flag there but one.

1953
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: He took the essentially the guy most capable of making

1954
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: that play out of the play with a two handed

1955
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 1: shove and two men.

1956
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 5: I know, makeup calls exist.

1957
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: If there's a way to make up for the MVS

1958
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: blown call, maybe you throw the flag there. But they didn't.

1959
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And the packers of the Bend.

1960
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 4: Well, they're all they're all humans, And I don't know

1961
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 4: who made them non call.

1962
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: That's the problem. We got to get some AI refs

1963
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: in here.

1964
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 4: I don't know who made the non call on the

1965
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 4: pass interference to uh vow the scantling should have been

1966
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: a pass interference. It was Corey Valentine that was in coverage.

1967
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 4: That to me in the moment felt like a makeup call,

1968
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 4: makeup non call essentially from the Mahomes because that happened

1969
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 4: right after the Mahomes which they blew that call.

1970
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: It was brutal.

1971
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if they somehow knew that they brewed

1972
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: that call, but they were suddenly in the crosshairs.

1973
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: It like they helped the Chiefs get to that point.

1974
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 4: And then right after that was the throw down the field,

1975
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 4: and that was the one of all of these that

1976
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,719
Speaker 4: was truly egregious.

1977
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 1: And probably changed the game. I think it's worth going, Yes.

1978
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,480
Speaker 5: It's first and ten at the sixth Greg.

1979
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Okay, first goal, okay.

1980
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 4: And they struggled twice in the red zone tonight, and

1981
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 4: they had to hit a two point conversion and there's overtime,

1982
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: so it changed how the whole rest of the game

1983
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 4: would have gone by just worth noting, like, you don't

1984
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 4: know that the result of the game is right, it's.

1985
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 3: Still brutal, right, It's like we were saying, you know

1986
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 3: before we recorded, like it wasn't like any one of

1987
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 3: these calls is going to stir up like the competition

1988
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 3: committee to look at things differently. The combination of all

1989
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: of them, though, suggested officiating gaggle of officials who seemed completely.

1990
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 9: Out of control.

1991
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 3: There was just an air of like the game was

1992
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: melting down and it's like who's in charge here?

1993
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: And why is this taking so long?

1994
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: It's like none of it was so overly complex that

1995
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 3: it should have looked the way it did to us.

1996
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 9: And when you got McCauley, I thought he did a

1997
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 9: good job.

1998
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: He came on three or four times and forcedly said wrong,

1999
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: wrong call, And like, I guess for me the whole thing.

2000
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 3: They are human, but the concept of a makeup call

2001
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 3: is not how things should be done. Like it's like,

2002
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 3: if you made one mistake, you don't then allow yourselves

2003
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 3: to visibly make another right. So without telling us what's

2004
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 3: going on and just you just look, it looked like

2005
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 3: they were falling further and further from an element of control.

2006
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 2: I think that MVS no call given the stakes is

2007
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 2: one of the worst non calls I've seen period. That

2008
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 2: was one of the worst blown DEPI calls you could

2009
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: possibly see. And the fact that it was dead center

2010
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 2: in the middle of the field, no question about it.

2011
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 5: It can't happen.

2012
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: And you know what I mentioned it earlier in this episode,

2013
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 2: I guess I had my eyes, Like on a typical Sunday,

2014
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna have our eyes individually on about five games

2015
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: pretty closely almost every game I watched today, there were

2016
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: really bad mistakes being made by the officiating and I

2017
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: hate talking about this because obviously you want to focus

2018
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: on what Jordan Love.

2019
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: And the packagers are doing about look at it to it.

2020
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 2: We have to talk about it, and I know on

2021
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: Park Avenue that they're going to be talking about a

2022
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 2: first thing Monday morning because it's affecting the quality of

2023
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 2: the product.

2024
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 4: It's just rare that there's two calls in that spot

2025
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes in Lamboat Sunday Night football, the biggest stage.

2026
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 4: We have a really unique entertaining game, and that you

2027
01:31:56,200 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 4: have two calls and I'm separating the Mahomes hit out

2028
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 4: of bounds in the first pass in the past interference

2029
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 4: non call as just clearly wrong.

2030
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,839
Speaker 1: No one's gonna argue that we will see the pool reports.

2031
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 4: They might be out by the time we finished talking

2032
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 4: these ten minutes. They will have to just admit we

2033
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 4: missed those calls. They were absolutely crystal clear, and that

2034
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,680
Speaker 4: it's pretty unique. I can't remember any game in this

2035
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 4: sort of spotlight where there's a cavalcat of calls like

2036
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 4: this all in a row.

2037
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 1: It was a pretty it was a pretty unique circumstance.

2038
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: The problem is they could admit after what we all

2039
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: see with our own eyes, I'm just guessing the night man.

2040
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: They try not to, but those two would be tough too.

2041
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 3: It was just the lack of I wouldn't say the

2042
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 3: words accountability, but it's just like when this happens to

2043
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 3: a team and you get totally hosed on an island

2044
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 3: game on national television in a circus of officiating.

2045
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 9: All just leaves you with is the loss.

2046
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,599
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the backers, and they deserve to lose too,

2047
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 1: by the way, Jeeves.

2048
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 5: I don't like that.

2049
01:32:55,320 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: I just mean teams frits out, players fritz out, coaches

2050
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: fritz out, and sometimes to your point, I think mark

2051
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: officials often fritz out too.

2052
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that I can't live with that.

2053
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's as a fan like, I want

2054
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: the officials to do their job and stay out of

2055
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: the way, and we're just never going to know, really

2056
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: how that game really should have turned out because the officials.

2057
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Ye.

2058
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 4: All I mean is they were in that position where

2059
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 4: they had no timeouts, they had to drive the length

2060
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 4: of the field in one oh nine for a touchdown

2061
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 4: and a two point to tie.

2062
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: So they had put themselves in that position.

2063
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 2: They certainly did, and the reason they did is because, yeah,

2064
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,719
Speaker 2: for the most part, Packers outplayed the Chiefs in this game,

2065
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 2: and you're seeing it in Matt Lafour by the way,

2066
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 2: the bearded boy himself sixteen and oh in December games. Wow,

2067
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 2: the Packers who were left for dead, I think they

2068
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 2: said on the game telecast, And it checks out because

2069
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,719
Speaker 2: it felt that way once went forty days the season

2070
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: without winning a football game, and now they you can

2071
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 2: make the case that outside of the Niners, they're the

2072
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: hottest team in the NFC. So they're very interesting, Mark

2073
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 2: from that perspective. And the thing I'll say about Jordan

2074
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: Love in this one, Mark, and I'm curious what your

2075
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 2: thoughts are. It's not just the stats that look great

2076
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 2: right now, it's how confident he's playing, and how you

2077
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 2: could tell he's in control of everything he sees. And

2078
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 2: for a guy that's as young as he is, as

2079
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: inexperienced as he is, and as loss as it seemed

2080
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 2: to he was like a month or so ago, it's

2081
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 2: pretty remarkable to turn around.

2082
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 3: It's I think one thing that's wonderful about kind of

2083
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 3: covering the whole league versus just your team is that

2084
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 3: you start to see operations just grow up right before

2085
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: your eyes and it's Jordan Love and it's like the

2086
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 3: offense around him. And I thought tonight there were four

2087
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 3: or five throws, well, I can think of one to

2088
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 3: Christian Watson where it's like he is just throwing with

2089
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 3: intense like confidence and putting in like into tight windows.

2090
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: And there's a couple you know, there were a couple drops,

2091
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: but he put the ball right on the money. And

2092
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 3: I just think on top of that, like the way

2093
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,759
Speaker 3: he's seen the field, the way he uses his legs

2094
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 3: and moments, the fact that he's pairing well in a

2095
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleor offense, and Matt Lafleur two weeks in a row,

2096
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 3: because what Thanksgiving feels like about seven eros ago, two

2097
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: great Matt Lafleur coached games. I think that like this

2098
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 3: isn't working well because they're kind of all growing up together.

2099
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, when they were at their nadir, I

2100
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 4: brought up how in the off season we said we're

2101
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 4: gonna learn a lot about Matt Lafleur, and I ended

2102
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: it with some smug little thing of like they are

2103
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 4: right now like one of the worst offenses in the league. Okay,

2104
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 4: right now, we're gonna learn a lot about Matt Lafleur

2105
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 4: this season, he has taken a young quarterback, and I

2106
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 4: think Love deserves the most credit. But I think with

2107
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 4: the weapons around him and the amount of play action

2108
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 4: he really there I hit on, you know, Russell Wilson

2109
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:48,600
Speaker 4: really relying on play action for that's not necessarily a

2110
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 4: bad thing. I mean Ryan Tannel did it for years,

2111
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 4: A lot of teams do it. He is relying on

2112
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 4: play action as much as any quarterback in the league,

2113
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 4: and it is hitting guys are open. And then when

2114
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 4: he is doing that backpedal and he has to do

2115
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 4: something special like that rain Bo shot to Romeo Dobbs,

2116
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 4: which looked like a bad idea, And I don't know

2117
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 4: how it fell down in there, like there's it still was.

2118
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 4: He still got it exactly triangle in there, He got

2119
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 4: exactly where it wanted to go.

2120
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think you're right.

2121
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 4: He's playing with such incredible confidence that when he's doing

2122
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 4: these back pedals and making these crazy throats like I'm

2123
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 4: almost surprised when he's not hitting him. These are all

2124
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 4: like chunk plays too, so like rookies Malik Heath and

2125
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 4: is that even a person Dontavian Wicks and just all

2126
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 4: these guys like fifteen to twenty five yard chunk plays.

2127
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome. And it's gotten this bad for the

2128
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs with their offense. If Patrick Mahomes is not handing

2129
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the ball off, for getting the hand the ball in

2130
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: the hands of Jaco who's a very good running back,

2131
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 1: or getting it to Travis Kelce who's not you know,

2132
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: dominating at the same clip as past years, or Rashi Rice,

2133
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 1: who's a consistent guy for them.

2134
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 5: Now it's bad news.

2135
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 1: But limited consistently good, but limited.

2136
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 5: Within the realm.

2137
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Like today he had eight for sixty four on nine targets,

2138
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: Like at least he's a guy that he's not a

2139
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 2: liability everyone else that he's trying to get involved, whether

2140
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: it's mvs who yes, got jobbed, but let's face it

2141
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 2: probably would have dropped it anyway, Richie James Clyde, Edwards,

2142
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Lair sky Moore that route he ran on the Mahomes interception.

2143
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean you just like, who do you trust Caadarius Tony,

2144
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: who's like not even on the roster anymore at this point.

2145
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 2: They they have work to do in the offseason to

2146
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 2: fix it. And again, like every time you think maybe

2147
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: they're coming out of it. There's another one of these

2148
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 2: games that tell you no, there's just there's just a

2149
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 2: limit to this offense.

2150
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 5: And it's kind of a stunning subplot of this season.

2151
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 3: They're really frustrating when they get into certain situations where

2152
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 3: in the past you could simply trust or you'd be

2153
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 3: a fool not to trust Mahomes to bail you out

2154
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: and to have some targets that would help you too.

2155
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 3: But it's like we're running out of time here. I

2156
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 3: like with the chiefs'll just we'll see where we are

2157
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 3: on the playoffs. But you asked if they were mighty still,

2158
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: and I think it's a fair question because you can't

2159
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 3: just rely on Andy Reid, the mind of Andy Reid

2160
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,799
Speaker 3: and the brilliance of Patrick Mahomes to rescue an offense

2161
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 3: that it's missing pieces and has been all year.

2162
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 4: So they finished the game so ugly, and that's what

2163
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 4: we remember three and out than the interception, which was

2164
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 4: going to be a tough pass, but more really did

2165
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 4: a terrible.

2166
01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 5: Job and it wasn't even greater.

2167
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Speaker 4: And agree, yeah, he killed them by changing by slowing

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Speaker 4: down on the route, and Keishak Nixon made a really

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Speaker 4: nice interception too, that you don't see guys make a

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Speaker 4: nice play like that, and then the way that game ended,

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Speaker 4: I should know that. I mean, each of these teams

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Speaker 4: only had seven drives. That is an exceptionally low number

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Speaker 4: for both teams to have in an NFL game. So

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Speaker 4: to me, this was sort of like an old Chiefs

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Speaker 4: game where it was like, oh man, our defense thinks tonight,

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Speaker 4: we need Patrick Mahomes to answer every single drive. We

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Speaker 4: just haven't seen the Chiefs defense give up points like that.

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Speaker 4: Twenty seven points and seven drives is terrible. The Chiefs

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Speaker 4: even nineteen points and seven drives is pretty great. That

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Speaker 4: points per drive, that would just barely like lead the

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Speaker 4: league in points per drive, nineteen points and seven drives.

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Speaker 4: Like it just was so limited here, but the Packers

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Speaker 4: were scoring almost every single time. And the Chiefs, you know,

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Speaker 4: are is there defense going to stay out this level

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Speaker 4: the whole season outstanding?

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Speaker 1: We've seen a little leakage lately.

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Speaker 4: They've had some injuries at linebacker, Nick Bolton and Drew

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Speaker 4: Treankoler out, so that that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Brian Cook got carted out of this game.

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Speaker 4: They're starting safety, so that side of the ball might

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Speaker 4: be creating a little issue too.

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Speaker 2: Here's the final stat Okay, it's from Tony Holzman Escarano.

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Speaker 2: He is the NFL idiot, senior researcher Kansas City, and

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Speaker 2: I know points per drive.

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Speaker 5: I understand it.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying they were pretty they were Okay tonight they

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Speaker 1: were pretty good. I know it doesn't feel that way anywhere.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs have scored fewer than twenty points in six

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Speaker 2: games this season. The Chiefs had six such games and

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes's first five seasons as a starter combined.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it looks that way.

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Speaker 4: Eight in that fourth loss is big. They're now behind

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Speaker 4: three teams in.

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Speaker 1: The AFC who have three losses Ravens, Jags we'll see

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Speaker 1: on Monday night, and and the Dolphins and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Here at six and six.

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Speaker 4: You look at their schedule and all the projection models

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Speaker 4: now have the Packers business as the favorite, as like

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Speaker 4: a decent size over fifty percent chance to make the play.

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Speaker 3: You even think ru will be potentially in three weeks

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Speaker 3: they're six and six. They play the Giants, the Bucks

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Speaker 3: and the Panthers before finishing with the Vikings, and anything less.

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Speaker 2: Than two dubs there is the disaster. All right, the

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Speaker 2: disaster this NFC, they'll be fine matter they could probably

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Speaker 2: all right. Uh, Tomorrow, Monday, we got a doubleheader, we

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Speaker 2: got the NFL plus Game of the Week. We'll be

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Speaker 2: breaking down the niners dominant effort against the Eagles, and

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Speaker 2: then Monday night football and news recap. I'm sure there

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Speaker 2: will be maybe some follow up to everything we just

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Speaker 2: talked about here coming out of Lamba.

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Speaker 5: Until then, you know what you got to do.

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Speaker 8: He the call.