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Speaker 2: the Buck Brief. Everybody on this episode talking to my

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Speaker 2: friend foreign policy analyst David Reeboy Reeboy as we call him.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you, Great to see you too.

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Speaker 2: So where do we stand right now with the Let's

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Speaker 2: start with the Biden US response to the terrorist atrocity

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Speaker 2: committed against the State of Israel, It's people and Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: The timeline of this response. What's happened so far? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how do you assess it?

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Speaker 1: So immediately, when I heard Joe Biden deliver a very beautiful,

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Speaker 1: very let's say, ostentatiously pro Israel sounding speech, I knew

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Speaker 1: that something was up, and I knew that he would

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Speaker 1: use the cover of his you know, his his beautiful

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Speaker 1: rhetoric two uh, to to do things that will really

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Speaker 1: imperil Israel's security or I'll say, continue to do them

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Speaker 1: because his administration, and like the Obama one prior to this,

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Speaker 1: has done nothing but try to to undermine Israel by

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Speaker 1: empowering Israel's enemies and making it very hard for Israel

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Speaker 1: to defend itself, and we we see this now with

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Speaker 1: with with with a response to this particular you know,

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Speaker 1: horrific attack. Immediately it started out that you know, yes,

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Speaker 1: of course Israel has the right to defend itself, but

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Speaker 1: we're going to micromanage that response, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: make sure that Israel's war aims, which are absolutely legitimate,

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Speaker 1: which are have to do with completely destroying Hamas's capabilities

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Speaker 1: to you know, to to UH to do this again

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Speaker 1: and and also to UH you know, to to destroy

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Speaker 1: the terrorist group UH in its in its in its midst,

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Speaker 1: in its backyard. The the Biden administration has set it

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Speaker 1: up such that that it makes it impossible for Israel

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Speaker 1: to do so. The first thing that it did was

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Speaker 1: was demand the resupply of Hamas. I mean Hamas is

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Speaker 1: UH is is you know, controls Gaza with an iron fist.

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Speaker 1: And they said, okay, well, humanitarian aid needs to go in,

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Speaker 1: which of course UH goes straight to Hamas and allows

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Speaker 1: for it to UH to to resupply. And in addition

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Speaker 1: to that, UH Biden decided to show up in Israel

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Speaker 1: for for really an unknown reason, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he was doing it for I think he

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Speaker 1: was doing it for for pr on one hand, But

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Speaker 1: the bigger reason he was doing it is really to

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Speaker 1: tie Israel's hands and make sure that a ground invasion

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Speaker 1: into Gaza could not could not occur while he was there.

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Speaker 1: And I think everyone is looking around and they're saying,

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Speaker 1: where is this ground invasion? Why isn't Israel doing what

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Speaker 1: it needs to do. It's it's a mass to border,

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Speaker 1: it's mass its army along Gaza's borders, and and uh,

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Speaker 1: and nothing is happening.

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Speaker 2: And what do you what do you ascribe that delay to? Mostly?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think is the reason? Is

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Speaker 2: it hostage negotiations proceeding?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I think I think one

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Speaker 1: it has to do with the Biden administration, Uh, pretty

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Speaker 1: much blackmailing Israel into standing down here. And it's a

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Speaker 1: very hard thing to negotiate. I mean, we, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we we the United States. The Biden administration held

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Speaker 1: bunker busters up from the Israelis because AMS exists deep

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Speaker 1: inside a massive, you know, three hundred mile tunnel network

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Speaker 1: underneath Gaza. I mean, it's it's estimated to be about

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Speaker 1: half the size of the New York subway system, which

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Speaker 1: itself is ridiculously, ridiculously huge, and everything is down there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Biden said, was holding the bunker buster's hostage.

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Speaker 1: And then of course you have the other, the other

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Speaker 1: issue that Israel faces, which is really you know, people think, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is this is Israel versus a you know, rinky

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Speaker 1: ding terror army, and it's not true. It's actually it's

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Speaker 1: actually a really serious situation. Once you add to it,

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Speaker 1: the other Iranian propsy to Israel's north has Bellah with

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty or two hundred thousand serious missiles,

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Speaker 1: not you know, not the crappy missiles that the that

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Speaker 1: you know from Gaza, right, but but these, but these

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Speaker 1: are are very serious missiles that that have been put

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Speaker 1: in place in civilian neighborhoods in southern Lebanon for the

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Speaker 1: last ten years or since Israel pulled out of there,

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Speaker 1: and and Hesbela and Iran basically said, well, if you

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Speaker 1: you know, the minute you go into Gaza, we're going

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Speaker 1: to launch a war on you from the north. And

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Speaker 1: any everyone knows that Israel is tiny and does not

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Speaker 1: have the luxury of waiting for you know, the first

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Speaker 1: round of attack. I mean, if if Hesbelah decides, for example,

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Speaker 1: it's go time, or to put it more more accurately,

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Speaker 1: if Iran decides that it's time for Hasbelah to press

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Speaker 1: the button and uh and launch a war from the

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Speaker 1: north on Israel with all of these rockets. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's about about it's the same amount of ordinance as

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Speaker 1: a nuclear bomb. Uh. And Israel could not really absorb

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Speaker 1: that kind of hit. So they know that they will

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Speaker 1: have to, you know, in order to prevent, you know,

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Speaker 1: something truly horrible in Israel in regards to Habelah. They're

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Speaker 1: going to have to either pre empt or lead the

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Speaker 1: or lead Hasbelah to believe that they will in fact

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Speaker 1: pre empt and and I think what we're seeing now

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Speaker 1: is the Biden administration really hamstringing Israel's ability to do

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Speaker 1: both those things.

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Speaker 2: topic here, David, Israel and what it's going to do

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Speaker 2: do you have Do you have any sense at all

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Speaker 2: that or any concern at all I should say that

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Speaker 2: Israel's not really going to be able to do the

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Speaker 2: mission against Hamas and Gaza that it seems it must

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Speaker 2: do right now, or do you think that there's a

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Speaker 2: chance they're gonna hold back and not really go in

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Speaker 2: full force.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I have that fear I think I think anyone

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Speaker 1: who's kind of looking at the situation soberly has that fear.

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Speaker 1: This is this is what happens when you know, this

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Speaker 1: is what happened happens when you have the the Biden

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Speaker 1: d O D you know, full of of folks who

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Speaker 1: are allegedly Iranian spies, and you have the top intelligence

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Speaker 1: position of the National Security Council led by a former

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Speaker 1: UH students for Justice in Palestine Prohomas Guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the kind of thing that you, unfortunately have

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Speaker 1: come to expect. And I know that they're doing everything

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You know, it must be very hard

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Speaker 1: for Natayahu actually to negotiate both the UH, you know,

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Speaker 1: the security needs of Israel that he's responsible for, the

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Speaker 1: political mood in Israel, which is we need to deal

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Speaker 1: with this problem now, and then the United States, which

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Speaker 1: is putting up all these these kind of ridiculous obstacles

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Speaker 1: and making it making it impossible for Israel to to

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Speaker 1: you know, to achieve any of its war I ams

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Speaker 1: here and I don't end the vant Nyahu one bit

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Speaker 1: for having to walk this tightrope and really having to

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Speaker 1: negotiate this this particular minefield. I mean, who knows what

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Speaker 1: they're threatening him with, but I am one certain they are.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Iran is willing to follow through

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Speaker 2: on its threats here if Israel does invade Gaza, meaning

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Speaker 2: that it will mobilize all the militias including has Blood

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Speaker 2: but militia in Syria and Iraq against US targets, US

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Speaker 2: bases in the region as well as Israel, Or you

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Speaker 2: think that that's bluster.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's bluster. I think it's something that

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Speaker 1: probably will happen. But look, the the Iranians know that

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Speaker 1: they have the Biden administration on the hook. So for Biden,

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Speaker 1: for these guys, the last thing they want to admit

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Speaker 1: is that their Middle East policy has been a dismal, amoral,

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Speaker 1: a strategic complete failure right in terms of empowering Iran

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Speaker 1: and giving and looking the other way while Iran, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, continues with its bad behavior. And the last

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Speaker 1: thing they're going to do is say, okay, no, we've

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Speaker 1: got to really reverse course. I mean, you could see

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Speaker 1: it with with Russia and Ukraine. You know, what's the

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Speaker 1: likelihood that they're going to wake up one day and say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think, I think we really messed up,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting all this pressure on Putin, We're going

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Speaker 1: to maybe try a carrots and sticks as opposed to

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Speaker 1: just sticks approach. I mean, I can't imagine it happening.

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Speaker 1: And and that gets us into a really tricky, scary

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Speaker 1: place where Iran gets to you know, has that you know,

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Speaker 1: it is counting on the on the Biden administration to

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Speaker 1: not address what is plainly happening. So for example, everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that Iran had a hand in the you know,

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Speaker 1: the horrible attack on Israel with with Hamas. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they they're they're they're they're very capable. They pay for

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Speaker 1: everything that happens in Hamas. And and we know we

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Speaker 1: also know from you know, from many public sources that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the people who are paragliding were paragliding

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Speaker 1: up with Hesbellah in Lebanon. So we see all these

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Speaker 1: these kind of operational links. And I mean, anyone who

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Speaker 1: you know, anyone who knows the region at all, would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course Iran was uh was was involved in this.

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Speaker 1: But immediately after it was very important for the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration to come out and say, oh, we have no

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Speaker 1: definitive intelligence that that that that has Iran, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: was blown up by Hamas itself, which you know, Hamas

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Speaker 1: came out and they said thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: your health Ieran, you know, in public. But for the

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Speaker 1: United States, for this administration, it was paramount to get

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Speaker 1: Iran off the hook because then, you know, if Iran,

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Speaker 1: if people know that Iran was indeed responsible for this

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you one more question about Iran

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Speaker 2: your first order. Dave, I'll ask you this one to

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Speaker 2: close us out here in this conversation. Why is the

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Speaker 2: Democrat Party so enamored with with Iran and refuses to

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's the big question. We can be here

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Speaker 1: for a long time addressing that one, but basically I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you want to read the definitive case for this,

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Speaker 1: my friend Michael Duran wrote it in Mosaic magazine in

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Speaker 1: And it's something that you know, I mean, it's something

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Speaker 1: that has been an obsession with the foreign policy smart

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Speaker 1: set for literally, you know, forty years since the Islamic

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Speaker 1: we have a bunch of allies in the Middle East

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Speaker 1: who are Israel and Saudi Arabia and you know other

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Speaker 1: Sunni powers, Iran is Shia, and the world will be

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Speaker 1: better off if our allies were less powerful and Iran

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Speaker 1: was more powerful, and it would creates some sort of

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Speaker 1: equilibrium at least. That's that's the that's the steel man

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Speaker 1: the strongest possible argument that that they can make, and

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Speaker 1: and that's their thinking. They believe that Iran is a

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Speaker 1: responsible power. Never mind that you know it, uh, it

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Speaker 1: controls Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and Syria through terror proxies and

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Speaker 1: and and destabilizes the region, you know, any way you

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Speaker 1: be and is a responsible regional actor and UH, and

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Speaker 1: they kind of want to bring it into the into

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Speaker 1: the UH the fold of nations. And I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a stupid thing to believe Number one in

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Speaker 1: and of itself, it's just it it doesn't fit with

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Speaker 1: the with the fact of what Iran is. But number

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Speaker 1: very fact that our longtime allies, you know, Israel, all

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Speaker 1: the Gulf States, you know, on and on have a

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Speaker 1: serious problem with with with Iran, should in fact give

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Speaker 1: us pause. You know. I want to say, the one

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Speaker 1: really great thing that Barack Obama did was he was

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Speaker 1: so tilted towards Iran that you know that Israel and

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Speaker 1: and and the Emirates in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and

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Speaker 1: several of these other countries had to kind of get

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Speaker 1: And that's what made things like the Abraham Accords possible.

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Speaker 1: So if it wouldn't have been for the United States meddling,

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Speaker 1: you know, would be a very different region.

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Speaker 2: David Reeboy everybody. David, I always appreciate the inside, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you for sure, you too,