1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Spreading the corn. Ten seconds remaining. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: It's gonna just go throw up to the basket, under 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: the basket. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: It's the croup for the wind. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: God big a miracle, Gods water hit that one from 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: the parking lot. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back college basketball. Diehard degenerates to another episode of 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus. This is your host, Matthew 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: Cox through thirty three point three to three percent of 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: the three man weave. Here again, another weekly edition, breaking 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: out all the action of the upcoming week, with a 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: specific focus on Wednesday, recording live here on Tuesday. The 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: format's the same. We get a six pack of questions. 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: We'll go through the dog of the week, got the 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: trash man coming up, power Game the week, talks to 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: mid majors, and we'll do a little spotlight on whatever 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: floats are fellas. I don't even care about how either 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: of you are doing today. Let's get right into the 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: meat of this episode. And I want to just be 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: transparent because our live Dogs of the Week last week 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: were hord Not one of these won. We had a 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: couple of close calls. Samford went to ot and lost 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: in overtime to DePaul, but UNC against Indiana, that one 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: was really never competitive. South Alabama, Oakland, Chicago State. Imagine 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: picking Chicago State on this program. But they beat Southern 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Indiana by a million on Sunday, So I guess that 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of counts or or not. So yeah, let's let's 30 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: do better this week. That's just kind of my call 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: to action. And this week is sort of a shorter, 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: lighter slate of games. You know, Tuesday Wednesday are heavier, 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: but Thursday Friday very lights. So a lot of the 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: action will discuss will be focused on Wednesday. Let's get 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: into it. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: Where is. 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: Where is mine? Wednesday night three to con Center as 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I chose from the fairly large slate of games. On Wednesday, 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: Arazon was stating at SMUs my first, to Paul at 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Saint John's just my second. Jacksonville at VCU is my third. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Ki going to you first? Which one of those three 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: sploats your boat? Or did you find another candidate that 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: stuck out to you looking through the the slate. 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: Gosh, Matty, you chose some okay ones here of the 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: three you chose okay, not great? 46 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack agree, there's not a great options this is 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: kind of a weak pool to choose. 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: From Jacksonville intrigues me. I'm I was really high on 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: them coming into the year. I've bettled them three times, 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: all three times they've played there one and two. Now, 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: those two losses were to Duke and t U, a 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: b pretty good teams here. Can VCU run them out 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: like those other teams have? I don't know. Ace Baldwin 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: appears to be fine playing with a bandage on his 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: broken wrist. Jamier Watkins is back in the lineup for VCU, 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: so it's probably what I'm not going to look for. Jim, 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: I guess I leaned towards SMU out of these three 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: home dog against an air on a state team that's 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: certainly sort of jeckling highe. But gosh, of these three, 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm kind of staying away all three. I'll search for 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: a better one here pretty soon. 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got two that Matt did not mention that 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: I'll that I'll hit later. But of the ones Matt 64 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: brought up here, I think SMU is probably my favorite. 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: I will also say, Matt, the show is sponsored by 66 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: bet MGM. How dare you give them cold shoulder the 67 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: stiff arm shout? Out to you, of course, don't worry, 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: but yeah, SMU, I like the fact that their home 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: dog rather than like Arizona State being on the road, 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: I think is shakier Jacksonville. I don't know if we're 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: going to get the full lineup, kay. I know we 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: had the surprise Matthew marsh absence last game, Mike Marsh, 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: excuse me, and then he returned in their nine D 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: one game they played this past week, but Dylan O'Hearn 75 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: missed that one, as did one other key piece, Omar 76 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: Payne missed that as well. So like, I don't know 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: if they're just getting guys in and out, if they 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: are just banged up. I'm a little nervous about Jacksonville 79 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: as being full strength. That's keeping me spook there. And 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: Matt DePaul, Saint John's got a David Jones revenge game. First, 81 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: John's going against his old school. That makes me a 82 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: little bit nervous to Paul's also banged up, missing their 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: two front court pieces, and Saint John's. I think you 84 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: want to take away the rim, force them to shoot, 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and I don't know if De Paul can take away 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 3: the rim without those guys. 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, De Paul. Saint John's is admittedly more of a 88 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: hell Mary, especially if yourn A and nic Agenda are out. 89 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: But if one of those guys is back, I could 90 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: see De Paul competing here. You know they can neutralize 91 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Saint John's at the room with one of those guys back. 92 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: We've seen this game be very unpredictable, very high variants. 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: So again this is one where you're looking at a 94 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: moneyline angle. Probably it could be a decent investment. I 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: did not play this one officially, or I have not yet. 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I will not unless one of those guys are in, 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I probably won't. But Jacksonville and SMU the two I'm 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: looking at pretty closely. I just I knows him has 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: been really bad, honestly, could be kind of a fall 100 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: from grace under first year coach Roblin you other but 101 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Arizona State coming to and fat and happy off the 102 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: PAC twelve start, I think it could be a good 103 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: spot to catch them snooze in and vcu Man. I 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: know they're back and fully healthy, but the losing by 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: double digits and never really being competitive temple raised my eyebrow. 106 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: We know that offense is very much herky, jerky and 107 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville is a team despite the injury concerns 108 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: you guys mentioned, could catch them nap in there as 109 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: well on the road. Jim Quick recap the ones you're 110 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: officially endorsing. I like the two that you highlighted. Kay, 111 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: you also found some two off the beaten path. 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I did. 113 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I picked out I'm gonna I'm gonna end 114 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: u joining one of Kay's absolutely, but picked out Alabama 115 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: State at North Alabama on Wednesday. I think Alabama State's 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: actually kind of competent, but they played an absolute whirlwind 117 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: of a travel schedule to start the year, really really brutal. 118 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: It didn't have a ton of great efforts. But then 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: they played somebody their level Eastern Illinois, and they won. 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: And now they're playing somebody their level in State. North Alabama. 121 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Isn't some complete domination big brother type of team. I 122 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: think Alabama State can pull off an upset there, led 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: by coach Madlock and his son TJ. Madlock. And then 124 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: also on Thursday, Colorado State is plus six per Ken Pom. 125 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: At Colorado. This line will probably not be six. It 126 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: will probably be three because Colorado State has Isaiah Stevens 127 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: back and he is a just complete game changer for them, 128 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: one of the best point guards in the country. And 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: in Colorado Man that team is up and down. The 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: Buffalo's really hard to figure out. But I don't give 131 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: much home court there because Boulder and Fort Collins aren't 132 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: that far and you don't have the advantage of altitude 133 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: because Colorado State is familiar with it. So those the 134 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: two I picked out. Kai your top one I'm going 135 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: to be joining on joining you with, and it. 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Is Siena plus six at Georgetown. 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: Yep, I felt too obvious. No, I felt too obvious. 138 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I actually just qualified it. I thought it was too obvious. 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: It's like it counts like two plus money count the same. 140 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: It does count the same, so great. 141 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: I thought Siantle was too obvious against Forida State and 142 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: guess what they want out right, And Georgetown has proven 143 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: that it can lose to literally anybody. I expect Georgetown 144 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: to be up around fifteen to twenty in this game 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: and give every single point back to the Sienna Saints 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: for the Saints to get a chance to win and cover. 147 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: The second one here is going to be Utah Valley 148 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: plus eight at b YU. Not a lot of travel here, 149 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: as well. In gosh, b YU has been just kind 150 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: of this season. They just lost South Dakota outright, not 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: a good look. They haven't been convincing in their wins necessarily. 152 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: I think Utah Valley, a very well coached team, can 153 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: pull the upset here. So give me the Utah Valley 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Wolverines against b YU. 155 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: Did knock them off last year at UVU where BYU 156 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: blew it, blew it late and went to overtime. Utah 157 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: Valley was able to pull it out. Maybe there's some 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: revenge factor there, but I will probably be on Utah 159 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: Valley at least on the spread. I don't know about 160 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: the money line, but Matt, Yeah, BYU just doesn't convince 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: me they're not They're not very exciting yet. 162 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Right revenge is only as good as your ability to 163 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: act upon it, and right now, I don't think b 164 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: YU has that has that in them, So I'm kind 165 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: of with Kay. I almost think like the fact that 166 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: they beat them last year is the most confidence that 167 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: can carry over to this year with a decent some 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: good core nucleus from last and still intact. For that remark, 169 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Mattson and as I mentioned Jacksonville, as you are my 170 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: two Moneyline specials and that's it for money Line Dogs. 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: It's time for Blowout City section number two. Another dismal 172 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: recap section here. 173 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we for the Golden Sombrero last week. 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: I think really tough. Hopefully if you're just now tuning in, 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: that's it's a good time to join us. If you 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: tuned in last week for the first time, well, certainly 177 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: off to a rough start with us. Yeah, Florida State, 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: Utah Tech, and Memphis. We're sort of our disappointing well, 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Florida State and Memphis with disappointing favorites. I'm sorry. Florida 180 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: State was disappointed perdue as the favorite. Utah Tech competed 181 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: with Utah State, and Memphis could not blow out North 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: Alabama team we just discussed. But hey, looking at a 183 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: few that we identified for Wednesday as potential complete blowouts. 184 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: San Francisco is hosting Merrimack and a Why the heck 185 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: are these two teams playing non conference game? And Tennessee 186 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: is hosting Eastern Kentucky. KEMPOM has those at minus twenty 187 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: one and minus twenty nine, respectively. Jim Jordan Miner has 188 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: been back for Merrimack. Who was I believe the preseason 189 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: player of the year in that conference. He had monster 190 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: games in both, but it didn't matter. They got blown 191 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: out both times. So this Merrimack team might just be awful. 192 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I can't imagine they're real geek to fly across country 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: to play San Francisco. 194 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: They're more than might just be awful. They're terrible. They're really, 195 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: really bad, and I think there was a chance of 196 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: this coming in. They didn't have a point guard situation 197 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: figured out. They're playing a six to five freshman there, 198 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: Jordan Dirkhak, who is competent, but it's basically underscoring that 199 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: they don't have a true point guard. Their offense is 200 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: so bad they can't get into any action, they can't execute, 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: they can't shoot once they do get open shots, which 202 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: is rare. They're one of the worst rebounding teams in 203 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 3: the country both sides of the even with minor back 204 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: in there. It's nightmarish. And yeah, like you said, you 205 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: go from getting whooped by Vermont on Sunday to flying 206 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: like three thousand miles across the country to San Francisco. 207 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: I don't see why they care about this game at all. 208 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: Kai. 209 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: I think they should San Francisco should smash and San 210 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: Francisco's coming off a disappointing loss too, so a little 211 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: anger coming out. 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And I think USF has no issues running 213 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: the score up here. It's an analytical coach who knows 214 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: the value of the net system probably wants to win 215 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: by a lot of points here. Merrimack one and eight 216 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: against the spread minus nine point six cover margins. So yes, 217 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: they have had their best player out of lineup for 218 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: a couple of games, but still awful. I'm endorsing this, 219 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: Matt Go Dons. 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: I actually like the Tennessee game better than the Dons, 221 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: just because the Dons have not been as dominant as 222 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: a large favorite today. They're a team that hasn't quite 223 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: had that offensive juice. But yeah, maybe it gets Merrimack 224 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: and just doesn't quite matter. Yeah, we saw Eastern Kentucky. 225 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: We've seen them because of the way they play be 226 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: susceptible to being and out of the gym. Tennessee has big, strong, 227 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: older guards that will should not be faced by the pressure. 228 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: That's unless I guess, of course. Zikai Ziegler has a 229 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, a sort of off the beaten path type 230 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: of game here, playing and that could be is the 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: question mark as well. I still looked at that, and 232 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: I still think they're deep enough in the win, on 233 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: the wing and in the back court to handle the pressure. 234 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: And I just don't think East Kentucky has any success 235 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: scoring at all. So this actually could be like a 236 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: game where people think will be a really high scoring 237 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: game and actually, you know, trails more toward the under. 238 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: But it should be one where Tennessee wins easily twenty 239 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: plus and I think they actually extend it to thirty. 240 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, spreads twenty nine, so I hope they extended to 241 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: thirty there. 242 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: I hope they go more than thirty. Forty would be great. 243 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: I take fifty, kay, I'll be laying the point. 244 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: By this one. Mett Ukau is really really talented, so 245 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm probably hesitant betting them a thirty point dog, but 246 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: are fading them as a thirty point dog. But Tennessee 247 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: should roll, so I'm agreeing with you directionally. 248 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 3: Thanks. Tennessey did get JJJ back. Josiah Jordan James, who 249 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: is kind of like the ultimate siss army knife connector 250 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: piece does everything for them, and man Jumi Mayshack has 251 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: been a kind of a revelation. Not uber efficient, but 252 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: he's kind of a Josiah Jordan James two point zero 253 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: or junior, and then he can guard a bunch of positions. 254 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: He's a built fullback kind of athlete, gets to the 255 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: rim like crazy. So that's pretty impressive with him. Matt, 256 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: you mentioned you don't think eka you can score well. 257 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: The ken Pom projection agrees with you. It has them 258 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: at point seven to six points per possession against Tennessee, 259 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: So that that gives you an example of how dire 260 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: it could be for Eku trying to figure it out offensively. 261 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessee's just back. We're gonna look back at that 262 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Colorado loss and laugh at in like two or three months, 263 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: they just be all corn State by fifty. All Corn 264 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: States played everyone closer like the other Tarlatan of the 265 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: well mid majors. 266 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Alcorn had like three or four guys. 267 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: That's fine. Still the one by fifty, they one by thirty. 268 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Easy take both. That's my recommendation. Before we get to 269 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: our next section. 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It's time for the big bad power Game 306 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: of the week marquee matchups, and we got a few 307 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: of them. 308 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh I could feel. 309 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: A couple of rivalries and and the one that's going 310 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: to kick us off here Kai Yukon headed down to 311 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: the swap Florida Gators, who have fallen onto some hard times, 312 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: but they're coming off. Not many people may have seen 313 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: two very impressive, dominant wins over albeit subpar competition. Do 314 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: we think are beloved Gators who we have shown a 315 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: very rabid bias for. Do we think they figured it out? 316 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: I think this is a vintage home dog spot here 317 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: against the Red Hot and I mean Red Hot Huskies. 318 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, they might have figured something out, but I'm not 319 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: fading Yukon. You can't make me. Five points does seem 320 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: like a lot on the road for a Florida team 321 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: that I do still think has some ability to be 322 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: good this season to make the tournament. But Yukon's the 323 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: best team in the country that I've seen live. I 324 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: think they're right behind Houston basically for best team in 325 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: the country period, not a team I'm fading. Florida does 326 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: have some size up front with Castleton and to Tobo, 327 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: but that goes both ways. Yukon's got way, way way 328 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: more size can kind of take them out of the ballgame. 329 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Florida can't really shoot. I know that their numbers are high, 330 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: but I don't really trust that team going forward shooting. 331 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: It's not a good matchup for me. 332 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: Jim. Yeah, the shooting is basically two players Florida and 333 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of shooting. That's the problem. 334 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 3: Like the percentage looks good, it's like, oh, but they're 335 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty ninth and two hundred and ninety 336 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: eight excuse me in three point a tenth right, we 337 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: know that is completely out of the ordinary for a 338 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: Todd Golden team. He was top fifty all three years 339 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: at San Francisco. That tells you how shooting starved this 340 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: team is. They just don't have the pieces to do it. 341 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: And if you have to force the ball inside against Yukon, 342 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: you're in trouble. Like Donovan Klingen is a total monster. 343 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: He's like Zachi d Junior and the paint. He's a 344 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 3: little more mobile, more more competent. I guess blocking shots, 345 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: and then Snogo is obviously a beast, hard to move. 346 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 3: I have fear for Florida here, Matt. I was really 347 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: excited about them preseason, but the defense has not been 348 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: anywhere near as good as I expected. I thought they 349 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: had pieces to be fantastic on that end, and they're 350 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: just not. And Yukon, like I said, is a juggernaut. 351 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: So I won't be betting Yukon. I'll probably sit this 352 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: game out, but I'm definitely not backing the whole dogs 353 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: despite how strong they've been this year in the non con. 354 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a spot that I would be rushing 355 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: to bet all my money on Florida in years past. 356 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: This year, I'm probably gonna still bet Florida if I'm 357 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: being brutally honest, but it won't be what I'm too 358 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: excited about, nor will it be a big bet for me. 359 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: I think you just have to respect how good you 360 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: con spent in maybe not forget the flaws that Florida 361 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: show showed at the MT. 362 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: I mentioned it now. I just want to give the 363 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: numbers for the people, since we are a gambling show 364 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: here at Home Dogs so far this year, one hundred 365 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: and eighty eight, one hundred and fifty one and six 366 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: fifty five point six percent, folks. That is near professional 367 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: numbers by just blindly hitting yes every Home Dogs. So 368 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: I don't expect it to stay that way, but right. 369 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: Now that is the trend as the trend. I think 370 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: that may hold for some of these, but they're all 371 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: case by case basis. We actually another home dog coming 372 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: up here as well. But first Michigan State Penn State 373 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: ki Big ten showdown. The Nanny Lyons presumably will be 374 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: favored in this game. Per Kempom, four points is the 375 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: number he has it at Michigan State very simply a 376 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: shell of itself right now without only call one of 377 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: their top three players arguably, and then jay Nakens, a 378 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: big breakout sophomore candidate, has not been one hundred percent. 379 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: Izzo says he won't be one hundred percent for like 380 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: another couple of weeks. They've not looked as good, dropped 381 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: an early game to Northwestern, and you can argue it's 382 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: a good spot because they're gonna be desperate on the road, 383 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: wanting to avoid an zero to two start. They may 384 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: just not be a great team right now. What do 385 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: you think? 386 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: Maybe not? But if it's four points, I'm taking Michigan State. 387 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: I've faded Penn State a few times this year. I've 388 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: faded him successfully. I don't really buy that this is 389 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: a top five team in the Big Ten. They're shooting 390 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: the ball really well this year, and I don't think 391 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 2: it's sustainable. They score the most points in the country, 392 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: highest percentage of points in the country from the three 393 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: point line. I mean, heck, if you take that away, 394 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: which I trust Tom, is that I have some sort 395 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: of competent game plan here, They've become pretty ordinary. And 396 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: I think giving this many points on the road from 397 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: Michigan State, even though it's a Big Ten, I respect 398 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: the heck out of Big Ten home court. I'm winning towards. 399 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 3: Party here sitting on my hands. I think Malie call 400 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: matters a lot to Michigan State, and it's shown a 401 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: little bit. Aikens isn't quite himself. I know, Izo said 402 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: after the game, like I thought he looked really good 403 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: in his return. He's just still getting back into game shape. 404 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: So I man, I agree kai Penn State is not 405 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: top five in the Big Ten. That is certainly not 406 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: the lofty standing I would have them in, But I 407 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: do think they are really solid. They're fantastically coached, and 408 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: Michigan State is getting through this ridiculous gauntlet that they 409 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: put together to start the year and doing so shorthanded. 410 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 3: They only have ten scholarship guys in the entire roster. 411 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: One of them was meant to be red shirted Cooper, 412 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: and it's it's not coming together. They just lost at 413 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: home to Northwestern. Maybe that gives them a little more 414 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 3: desperation factor. They don't want to start zero to two 415 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: in the league here. But I got to sit this 416 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: one out, mister Cox. Yeah, price a lot too. 417 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: My first instinct was with Kai on the Michigan State 418 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: plus four Penn State, but then I thought more about it. 419 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: It's like, I kind of like this Penn State team 420 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: in Penn State. While I don't exactly draw a you know, 421 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: a happy valley football type crowd there, they have had 422 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: a pretty strong court of store if he has have 423 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, pretty much all big ten venues. 424 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: So trying to respect that, Matt, what would it take 425 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: to get you to bet Penn State. I'm thinking about 426 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: that four I need three or less. 427 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: It's four at I think three State it's for a 428 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: kempom and Penn State opens two. I'll bet at three 429 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: is like a fringe bet. 430 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: I as you're looking at bet Penn State, I am. 431 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm bad. I was going in the if I get 432 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: five and a half if you give me five and 433 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: a half, I'll take Michelle. 434 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: The other way, all right, So here you hammer it 435 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: him and then we'll get it on the CounterPunch, or 436 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: I can go first and go second. Whenever you want, 437 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: you can talk perfect awesome, all right, glad we discussed 438 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: that Thursday. Let's quickly hit on Iowa State. Iowa Syhawk 439 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: obviously a huge rivery game. We love covering this every year. Man, 440 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: to think Iowa might be a six point favorite against 441 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: Iowa State is pretty wild. I don't think it'll be 442 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: that high. But Kempom has Iowa State relatively undervalued in 443 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: some people's opinion. I think I tend to agree this year, Kai, 444 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: where do you think this line truly opens? And are 445 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: you looking to get involved? 446 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: It'll get that down for sure. I will be on 447 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 2: Iowa State if it's six six. 448 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: I just want to say this, this game has been 449 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 3: a blowout for like eight straight years. I know it's 450 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: always the team that wins wins by fifteen or twenty 451 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: five every single year. You'd have to go back to 452 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: I guess eighteen was the last time that was within 453 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: single digits. And so that's like, if you like Iowa State, 454 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: maybe take the money line, because I doubt you're gonna 455 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: need to say. But if you like Iowa, then you know, 456 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: don't worry about the money line late A six. 457 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. 458 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: Now. 459 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: I guess nitpicking online value may not be worth it 460 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: in this matchup four. I think it's probably close to four. 461 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that one. 462 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. We'll see what happens. We're recording again 463 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: on Tuesday. We'll see what happens with Iowa Duke. If 464 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: Iowa pulls off a big win, maybe this gets over 465 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: inflated and you get a better value on Iowa State. 466 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: Going a quick turnar on there for the Hawkeves is well. 467 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Two more Big Ten games on Thursday, with Rutgers at 468 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State. The Minnesota game was the other home dog 469 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: I was alluding to earlier, Kai, I kind of think 470 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: the Gophers can keep that one close. I just don't 471 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: think Michigan has to figure out right. 472 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: Now fade Rutgers on the road. We talked about Colorado 473 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: State being a live dog against Colorado Sole in Colorado State, No, 474 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: thank you. On Minnesota. I'll probably be on Michigan, or 475 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: at least leaning that way. 476 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Minnesota is really bad. Like the defense is awful, 477 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: and I know they've had some flu stuff, so maybe 478 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: that's part of why they've been bad recently. But before 479 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 3: they got battle back, they were awful. They have been 480 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: a very poor ATS team this year. The one concerned 481 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: with Michigan is Jala Newell and pretty sure he tore 482 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: his acl. I watched it and cringed and nearly cried, 483 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: And it's sad and bad and gross. So maybe that's 484 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: good though, Maybe get more Doug McDaniel, who's actually looked 485 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: really really. 486 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: Good so far. 487 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean team hasn't had a pointer all year. 488 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: But you know, maybe that prompts to go in a 489 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: different direction. 490 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: We shall see. 491 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's get out of the power confer in 492 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: spotlight down to the nitty gritty mid majors. 493 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 2: Uh. 494 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: There's two in particular we want to talk about Wednesday. 495 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: One quickly, we'll touch on for Thursday. Wednesday. I su 496 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Blue Indiana State, who we discussed in the section last show, 497 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: for what it's worth against Drake. They competed admirably and 498 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: they yeah, they want it's right, they're at home. They 499 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: want I'm gonna say they cleared athlete and they want 500 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: uh that is admirable and actually came out with the victory. 501 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: So they're looking to move to two and oh in 502 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: conference against the SIU Carbondale Sluki's KAI. This could argue 503 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: it be two of the three best teams in the conference, 504 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: give what we've seen so far in this league in 505 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the non con I kind of think is SU Blue 506 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: wins this game? Outright? Maybe I'm disrespecting siuc's home court 507 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: in that defense under Brian Mullins, but I think is 508 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: SU Blue wins. 509 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: I think some of the noise really really good. I 510 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: think both these teams are really good. I'm probably not 511 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: gonna have a dog in this fight because I like 512 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 2: both teams and I have them pretty highly rated. Indiana 513 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: State has some injury issues, doesn't really matter. There are 514 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: two deep and Shirts has skirted this this issue many 515 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: times before, so I'm probably just gonna watch this one 516 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: and enjoy. But four sounds about right. Maybe it's three, 517 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: maybe it's two. 518 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, Indian State is just so much better running what 519 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 3: Shirts wants to do, bringing in McCauley, a guy who 520 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: played for him back in his d two days. That 521 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: Lincoln Memorial has helped, and just familiarity with the system. 522 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: They're not turning the ball over like crazy like they 523 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: were one of the worst turnover teams in the country 524 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: last year, and I think the Sulukis could have taken 525 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: advantage of that and did last year, not as much 526 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: this time around, so I will I will set this 527 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: one out as well. This is a great battle for 528 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: like you said, Matt, two of the three or four 529 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 3: best teams in the league. I think Bradley weren't mentioned 530 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: there as well. 531 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, these are two teams that I think, if you know, 532 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: probably top five of the of the valley. Either one 533 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: could win the Arch Madness in Saint Louis, and I 534 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: think are good enough to win a game in March Madness. 535 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: So I would keep your eying both these teams long term. 536 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: Two more teams than I think can actually what a 537 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: game in March Madness could be way off the radar. 538 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Too many lists saying Florida Golf Coast at Florida Atlantic. 539 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: Now KEMPOM has this game Florida Lantic minus ten. I 540 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: think that'd be an outrageously high spread. But Florida Atlantic 541 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: has been pretty much ripping everyone to shreds beat Florida. 542 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: They made a mockery of Eastern Michigan's defense. They hung 543 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: a hundred. I watched that game. Eastern Michigan had no 544 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: chance to stop them. Florida Golf Coast under Patty Chambers 545 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: can play. They've always had talent, but now they have 546 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: a coach who can maximize that talent. I'm actually looking 547 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: to bet Florida Golf Coast here, Jim if the line's 548 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: anywhere near that Kempom proxy opener, but I got to 549 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: think it probably opens closer to eight. 550 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: Are theyre Loka return? Like a week and a half ago, 551 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: I would have thought this line was insane, but I've 552 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: come around on FAU is like a nuclear holy cow 553 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: team like Wofford was never a top twenty program until 554 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: they were that one year and blew everybody out. And 555 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 3: FAU is playing like that. They were even shorthanded when 556 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: they destroyed Eastern Michigan. We mentioned in the Live Dog 557 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: of the Week South Alabama did not win. They were 558 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: playing this FAU team and lost by twenty five. And 559 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: South Alabama nearly beat you ab like that is a really, 560 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: really impressive effort. FAU has guards on guards on guards, 561 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: so many playmakers. They have a two headed monster at center, 562 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 3: they can rotate, throw at you. They're a little bit healthier. 563 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: They got Nellie Davis back. They're still missing Elijah Martin, 564 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: but again, they have so many guards it just doesn't matter. 565 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: I think this team is like really awesome and going 566 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 3: to contend with you a be a top the league 567 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 3: in North Texas as well. So I'm staying away here, kay. 568 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: I've kind of tipped my cap to FAU and would 569 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: rather back them at this point. 570 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: FAU has an at large case. 571 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're at large when. 572 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: At Florida they're seven to one. Their top sixty and 573 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: kimpon right now, both these teams are among the best 574 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: in the country against the spread. FAU is plus nine 575 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: cover margin on six to one record Golf Coast six 576 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: and two plus eight cover margin the other team. You 577 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: really want to fade right now. You will not catch 578 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: me fading FAU the rest of the year, even if 579 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: this spread is ten. I don't want to step in 580 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: front of the because I grew to Jim. I think 581 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: they are nuclear and a very very good team. 582 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 3: Man, slave to numbers like we are. You're just like, 583 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: this team is playing awesome. FAU is absolutely a team 584 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: to back. 585 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida off coast and man, they just beat San 586 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: Diego and the West Coast trip after the USC one, 587 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: I think they could be you know. 588 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: I think so. No, they lost die Yeah they won 589 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: that game after Sage, Yeah, but they didn't and they've 590 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 2: played nobody since then. 591 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: They played no one, sense. I just think they're really good. 592 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: Pat Tammers is awesome what he did at Penn State 593 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: before before the page turn. But all right, Thursday, real quick, 594 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: we have to highlight UMass Loll, who's been maybe the 595 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: best team in the country no one knows about, like 596 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: no one knows about like Florida a Lantis off the radar, 597 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: but then UMass role was like deep deep deep deep seated, 598 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: only deep seated. Most know about this squad at UMass 599 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: minus two feels tiny given how good Frank Martin squad's 600 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: ben Kai, But I don't know. It's not a big 601 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: home court. I think I might be on the minimn 602 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: this one. 603 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be shocked. This was too. I bet it's 604 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: over three, and you know, I'm probably not going to 605 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: make it to where I bet you mess loll, but gosh, 606 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: I'll consider it. Currently their Kim pomp Spot is one 607 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: twenty one. That's over one hundred spots higher than the 608 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: program's ever been since it joined d D one and 609 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. But man, I kind of believe it because 610 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: the market can't catch up with them. I know they're 611 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: not playing anybody that good, but gosh, they lost by 612 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: eight to Rutgers. At Rutgers, that's impressive. I know Rutgers 613 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: is kind of shorthanded everyone else though they're torching one 614 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: of the best ATS teams in the country. Here UMass 615 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: is strange. They're not a well poust machine. Frank Martin 616 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: is mad at his team despite their good start. I 617 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: might be tempted to bet loll here that travels not 618 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: a lot TBD will see on the line. 619 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kai, you sent the quotes to our our group 620 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: chat internally about what Martin was saying about his team. 621 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: This feels like a I'm okay with a losing if 622 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: I'm Frank Martin right and let my team now I 623 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: have ammunition on this on these guys. They have to 624 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: listen to me. You lost to umss loll your in 625 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: state supposed to be a little brother. How dare you 626 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: listen up? Get on the line and start running. I 627 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: could see that being the outcome for UMass here. And yeah, 628 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: well I can't keep up with them either. They're like FAU. 629 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: They are outside of well outside of their program range 630 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: as Kai said. But you look at their numbers and 631 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: it's all sustainable, Like they are dominant at both ends, 632 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: at the rim on both ends. It's not like they're 633 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: getting lucky with three point shooting numbers on either side. 634 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 3: I believe that this is actually like a top one 635 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: to twenty defense, and maybe it's not ninetieth, but they defend. 636 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: They have size, they have high major transfers, and they've 637 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: got a lot of athleticism on the squad. I'm buying 638 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: into this role team, and I think they're more complete 639 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: and we'll be absolutely dialed in to go into UMass 640 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 3: and get a victory here. 641 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably stay away, I guess then I think 642 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: more about it in this game. But we'll talk about 643 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: ums LOWL in a second here talk about some extra 644 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: teams that's really impressed us so far. But before we 645 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: get to our final section, let's quickly and I mean 646 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: very quickly check the box on our fit section. The 647 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: trash man Grimy Rose disgusting pick of the week. And 648 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: I say that because there's not many good options to 649 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: choose from. It's probably a good thing if you want 650 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: to watch high quality, aesthetically pleasing basketball. 651 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: The trash man pick of the week. 652 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm the trash man. 653 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it, 654 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: totally unreliable, undependable in it. 655 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: That's it. 656 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: You've been told off. 657 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: How do you like that? 658 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Good? 659 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 660 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: The one that did jump out to me was Campbell 661 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: Evansville decided to play a non conference game. Both teams 662 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: play painfully slow, and they're both missing key pieces in 663 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: Port Evansville man like being down I think their bleeding 664 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: scorer and then having their third leading scorer, Blaze Boshamp transfer. Yeah, 665 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: this is like a fifty five to fifty two type 666 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: of affair. So I guess that's my underlean on my 667 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: one trash maan identification of the week. 668 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a gross game. Campbell should crush them, 669 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: but Campbell has cam should win them. Campbell has injury 670 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: issues themselves. Yeah, there's a few out there. We don't 671 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: have to go down the rabbit hole. Trashman pick of 672 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: the week. 673 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: I would be on the under there as well Matt 674 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: with the injury issues that both. 675 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: In our final section spotlight on Extra Extra read all 676 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: about it. I want to highlight some extra teams that 677 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: have been awesome to date, and let's bring them up 678 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: and then quickly give an opinion on do we think 679 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,719 Speaker 1: it's sustainable. We're looking to bet on this team, We're 680 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: looking to fade this team. Talked about Florida Gulf Coast 681 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: and UMass Low above a few leagues teams from their leads, 682 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: Kai the A Sun. I believe you are a correspondent 683 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: for that conference. How good that conference is this season? 684 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Liberty Lips Comes are very impressive. Jacksonville we talked about 685 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: them briefly above. Those are the main competitors there. Any 686 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: of those really jump out to you as like a 687 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: team you're looking to back, or maybe the other way, 688 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe a team that's kind of gotten unlucky. Fortunately you're 689 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: looking to fade. 690 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I've said it all preseason, this is the 691 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: best day Day Sun's ever been. You can see that 692 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: in their non com performance so far. I think most 693 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: of the league is profitable this season from an ATS perspective. 694 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: One of the teams that's not is Jacksonville State, which 695 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: is a bit surprising. Also Liberty, despite having a good 696 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: ATS record, they actually have a negative cover margin. But 697 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking at back basically every team in non conference here. 698 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: I think Liberty is still a good bet. I think 699 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: golf Coast a great bet Matt against a team not 700 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: in named FAU. I think Queen's is still a great bet. 701 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: Kenesaw five and two yea Bellerman. 702 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of these teams are tough, tough 703 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: dogs because the talent is a lot better than people think. 704 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: No one pays atention to the A Sun, so I 705 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: would say for the little remainder of non con here, 706 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: look a little bit closer with the A Sun. 707 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm in lockstep, kay. I don't have a ton to 708 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: add because I've been backing a couple of these teams. 709 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: The thing I've run into trouble with is trying to 710 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: get Liberty unders. And they did have the disgusting game 711 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: down in Mexico that was like the easiest under of 712 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: all time. But they also have really struggled to like 713 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: it's not struggled. Their offense has been so good at 714 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: home against poor competition that nothing stays under. They put 715 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: up eighty points on sixty possessions and you just kind 716 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: of have to donate your money to the book and 717 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: walk away. So that's something I'm staying away from Matthew. 718 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: But like I said, if I'm on the fence about 719 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: backing an Ason side, I'm probably going with yes, because 720 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: these teams are legit. 721 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Asan non con is similar to what we 722 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: saw last season with the Swacken Miak non con. Just 723 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: a whole league uprising town, acquisition, good coaches, confluence of factors, 724 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: and I think there's some runway to back these teams 725 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: for the remainder of the month of December, and then 726 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: of course when they get into the conference play, well, 727 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: it's sort of all in the gates itself. How about 728 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: Vermont and Bryant, the two perennial powers while I get 729 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: Briant the new addition to the America East, both of 730 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: whom will be competing with UMass LOLL, and both of 731 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: them are currently dogs to outpace LOLL in the conference. 732 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: Just based purely on KEM Pomp's overall ranking, Brian's still 733 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: better than UMSS LOLL. I firmly believe that I wanted 734 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: to say Vermont was firmly better than U mass Locai, 735 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Vermont's played like one gig game 736 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: in their last six, so it's hard for me to 737 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: trust that with any sort of conference. 738 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: They've played one game in the last six, but their 739 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: competition is freaking Vermont playing a really hard schedule. They 740 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: almost want at USC they lost over time to Fluorton. 741 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 2: They have a good team still, I think, and I 742 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: think in conference play they'll show their true form. But 743 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: it is a three horse race now. And before I 744 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: probably have said just Vermont and Bryant, with the US 745 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: low the we'd been playing, I think it's definitely a 746 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: three horse race now. 747 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, just for the competition, I think is a really 748 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: good point. They have one opponent in common, and that's Merrimack. 749 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 3: Vermont won by twenty three at Merrimack. Lowell won by 750 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 3: twenty six at home. And then outside of that, Lowell 751 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: has played a bunch of teams outside of the top 752 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: two fifty and Vermont has played zero teams outside of 753 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 3: the top two to fifty. Merrimack is the only bad 754 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: team they played all season. It's at least Division one, 755 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 3: So maybe the battle testing will have some element to 756 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 3: it that helps when you get into league play, but 757 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 3: I buy that lowl is better than them right now. 758 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: I have not been impressed with Vermont in some of 759 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: the more mid level competition games they've had, like Long 760 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: Beach and Yale. They got thrown into the trash by 761 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: those teams, and that concerned for a mon team that 762 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 3: doesn't really have a front court. 763 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: Right now, two more, let's get to uh, I'm going 764 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: to gym. When your thought on Colgate, Kai, I want 765 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: your thought on Northwestern State. 766 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: So Colgate was the clear favorite coming into the season, 767 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: and they've been okay so far. 768 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: They're only That's why I am too right. 769 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 3: They're not like a dominant Holy Cow force. But the 770 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: rest of the Patriot League is not very good. Navy 771 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: has kind of emerged a little bit as the second team, 772 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: but they're the only other Patriot squad inside of Ken 773 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 3: Palm's top two hundred. Colgate should be the comfortable favorite 774 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 3: twin elite now. The rest of the non con I'm 775 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: not going to be back in Colgate. They lack athleticism. 776 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 3: That's why they got smashed by Auburn. They had trouble 777 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 3: with Buffalo on opening night. They lost a du Cane 778 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 3: and they're still figuring out the point guard situation. Braden Smith, 779 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 3: the freshman, has played there a lot. He's looked really 780 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 3: good for a freshman, Like tip of the cap to him, 781 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 3: and I think he'll be fine for Patriot play. But 782 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: it's still a little bit of a problem when they 783 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: play up in competent, the lack of a dynamic creator 784 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 3: the way that Nelly Cummings was before and Jordan Burns 785 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 3: before him. They lacked that guy to plug the offense. 786 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: This is the one team, Kay, you mentioned Furman as 787 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: a team that you thinks over valued. Colgate's another team 788 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: in that same nan where it's like, yeah, I like 789 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: him a lot. I just think they're being priced like 790 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: a high end Big ten team. I'm just not I 791 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: can't can't quite get there. 792 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 793 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: I wrote the Patriot for the Almanac and was like, 794 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: this is the clear favorite, and I've bet against them 795 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: like five times in the non come because it's just 796 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 3: they were a little inflated for my taste. 797 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: High Northwestern State is I like to call them Missouri 798 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: State South. 799 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 800 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: They've won seven or row six in row, including a 801 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: win at TCU. They won at SFA, and they just 802 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: beat Southern miss who looked invincible until well until NW 803 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: State beat them. 804 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven to one. It gets to spread one of 805 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 2: the best cover margins in the country. 806 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 807 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: There, Missouri State light because their new coach, Cory Gibson 808 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 2: was a Missouri State assistant and he took guys from 809 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 2: that team with him somehow to I'm going to say 810 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: it wrong. I just had the pronunciation of my head. 811 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 2: It's very fresh Nata something like that. The place for 812 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 2: Northwestern State is down there in Louisiana. But Demarki, Jamonte Black, 813 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: it's a lot more talented team that we're used to 814 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 2: seeing here at Northwestern State. I think it's sustainable. I'm 815 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: not sure they've hit their ceiling quite yet. I'm intrigued 816 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 2: to see them against south Land competition, probably be inclined 817 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 2: to back them, and we'll see these next couple of 818 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 2: games in the non kin against Louisiana and Roe and Rice, 819 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: among others. I think they're pretty darn feisty. 820 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they beat Southern mess without Dane Prim, Gage Prim's 821 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 3: brother the old Star State who's similar to Gage Prim, 822 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: only he's like fifty pounds lighter, so he's not quite 823 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 3: the same space eater, but yeah, I mean the three 824 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: headed monster of Missouri State transfers. The freshmen that they 825 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: brought in are really really good Hampton and Greedy Williams. 826 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: Great name, Greedy Williams. 827 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Greedy. 828 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it is fully stable for them 829 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: going forward to that. That's I think that team is 830 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: still a bye despite how much they've already risen in 831 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 3: analytical rankings. 832 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: Nacketish, nakotish, naketoush, naketosh, nakeotush. And we'll get off the podcast. 833 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: They have five times fast so we can engrave that 834 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: in our memories. Great breakdown, gentlemen, let's recap our best 835 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: bets quickly from this segment. I guess from all six segments, 836 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: I'll hit mine first. I am going to take Jacksonville 837 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: and SMU on the money Line Dog as we talked about, 838 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: and I will probably be taking FGCU against Florida Atlantic 839 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: despite my Florida Atlantic fears. 840 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: Kai, what do you got uh, Sienna Utah Valley for 841 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: my live dogs the week. I do like the San 842 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 2: Francisco Dons and blow out City section. Yeah, leaning towards 843 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: Michigan State and Iowa State in the in the Games 844 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: of the week TVD on the spreads there and then 845 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: the mid major games of the week. I'm gonna back 846 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: you mess Well. I'm going with the River Hawks. I'm 847 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 2: tired of fading this team and not being on them. 848 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: It's time I get some money. 849 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Think it's the right time for him too. With 850 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 3: the way U Mass is trending, I guess they've been solid. 851 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 3: But I'm in Colorado State, Alabama State in Siena outright, 852 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: and I'll be taking the spreads there strongly considering Iowa 853 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: State in the Syhawk. I want to see what happens 854 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: with Iowa Duke though, so unfortunately we don't have that 855 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 3: result in our holster as we record this. But I'm 856 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 3: all in for sure on U mess Well. I think 857 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: it's just a perfect spot against the little brother with 858 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: or against Big Brother, and Big Brother has a coach 859 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: that might want to teach his team a bit of 860 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: a lesson and is okay with them not coming all 861 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 3: the way through there. I think that's it for me, Matthew, 862 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: That's it from all of us. 863 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: That concludes another weekly episode of the Big Bets on 864 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Campus every Wednesday morning. Come back next week, same time, 865 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: join us. Until then, Good luck, take care,