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Speaker 1: You know, it's Wednesday. Some people call it hump Day.

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Speaker 1: We call it Draft Wednesday right here on Texans All Access,

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Speaker 1: where we put a focus on the draft and in

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Speaker 1: some cases we do a draft. If you've been following

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Speaker 1: the show for a while and we have got a

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Speaker 1: draft doozy for you this evening, I'm your host, Sean Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter, so glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have from George Warhop, offensive line coach for

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Speaker 1: your Houston Texans. A little later in the show. We'll

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Speaker 1: also have a little in the Lab with Drew Doherty

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Speaker 1: and myself. We discuss a prospect each and every week

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Speaker 1: on in the Lab, go a little bit in depth

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Speaker 1: on that guy. And today's guy is Michigan edge rusher

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Speaker 1: whose father played. It's like fair from Houston, so there's

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Speaker 1: at least that connection, even though Aiden all he knows

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Speaker 1: he'll know all about Houston living here play for the Texas.

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Speaker 1: But that is a discussion for a different day, because

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Speaker 1: this Draft Wednesday is special. Now on Draft Wednesday. We

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Speaker 1: do talk a lot of draft, and we have talked

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Speaker 1: a lot of draft in the past, but we also

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Speaker 1: have sat down to do some very unique drafts. We

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Speaker 1: have gotten drew deep myself. Mark, I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: We've had others involved in our Draft Wednesdays. We have

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Speaker 1: drafted great Americans, we have drafted guiltiest football pleasures. We

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Speaker 1: have drafted all kinds of things. But one thing we

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Speaker 1: have never had another person involved in Draft Wednesday until today,

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Speaker 1: and that person is General Manager Nick Cassario. This is awesome.

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Speaker 1: We had a blast chatting up with our GM, Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the Combine kind of

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Speaker 1: to our Wednesday draft Mark myself and GM Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: This is fun stuff. Joining us right now tex Sans Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans General Manager Nick Cassario. Nick, great to see you,

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Speaker 1: great to see if fellas all right, let's dig into

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Speaker 1: it here. The week before the combine coaching staff set.

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Speaker 1: Now we met with the assistance this week. Your thoughts

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Speaker 1: a certain level of stability in the building. The staff

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Speaker 1: just excited to kind of get situating, kind of get started,

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Speaker 1: biggest thing. I mean, I would say on a personal level,

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Speaker 1: Given the timeline, the fact that combine is coming up

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Speaker 1: how does all that kind of fit together for you.

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Speaker 1: You did say it, when you get to combine information,

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Speaker 1: kind of come together? Nick, that timeline for you that hey,

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Speaker 1: free agents, you're coming up. You're really doing things concurrently.

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Speaker 1: So just kind of going back, so from a timeline perspective,

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Speaker 1: But in conjunction with that, you know, on our pro

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Speaker 1: staff is evaluating kind of the free agent board, if

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Speaker 1: those players are. Obviously you hope that you've watched those players,

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Speaker 1: lot of balls, right Nick, All right? Where I was

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Speaker 1: And we've drafted everything before, Nick, including foods, so stay

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Speaker 1: as we all know, well, I mean, in the draft,

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Speaker 1: aren't you always looking for inefficiencies? You would have been

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Speaker 1: and whatever things that we were definitely not good draft

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Speaker 1: at all. Next week, have you ever done a cleanse? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you never had it? Yeah, I don't think I need

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Speaker 1: to do. Nick, thanks so much for joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it. I'm telling you, that's about as

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Speaker 1: much fun as I've had on radio in a very

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Speaker 1: long time. The fact that our general manager sat down

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Speaker 1: to do one of our draft Wednesday drafts with us

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Speaker 1: and then correcting me that Groc is not retired, killing me,

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Speaker 1: killing me. But I'm telling you mad respect for Nick

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Speaker 1: Casserio to hop in and just have some fun on radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll have him next week at the Combine, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll have plenty of serious type questions. But the

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Speaker 1: fact that he took the time to just jump in

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Speaker 1: and talk ball and do it the way that Mark

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Speaker 1: and I do on a Wednesday is very very cool.

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Speaker 1: So you definitely if you didn't get all of that,

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Speaker 1: go to use Texas dot Com. You get the all

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Speaker 1: Access page, get the podcast, get this first segment, and

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Speaker 1: check it out. One guy we had a chance to

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Speaker 1: catch up with yesterday was George Warhop, offensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: We had never talked to him, we had never met

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Speaker 1: him as the first time we had a chance to

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Speaker 1: chat with him, and he was awesome. George Warhop next

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Speaker 1: right here in Texans All Access. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: at some point in my life I just was bitten

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Speaker 1: by the offensive line bug, but I absolutely love talking

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Speaker 1: to offensive line coaches and it was always fun getting

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Mike Devlin and to James Camping,

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Speaker 1: and finally to George Warhop, Welcome back to Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: I'm John Harris, football analyst and sideline reporter Mark and

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Speaker 1: I had the chance to sit down with the Texans

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Speaker 1: new offensive line coach, George Warhop. He is awesome and

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Speaker 1: we boy. I'm telling you, there are times when I

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Speaker 1: talk to people and I'm like, yeah, I could listen

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Speaker 1: for an hour, keep going, keep going, and you'll hear

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Speaker 1: it when we talk to George Warhop right now. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Houston. Great to have you with us. How's it

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Speaker 1: been so far? Your reaction to being here part of

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Speaker 1: the organization under Lovey Smith, It's been a world win

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Speaker 1: so far. But in terms of being with Lovey, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Coach year been to Texas. Has Texas ever been in

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Speaker 1: your purview? So to speak? You know, my mom grew

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Speaker 1: up here in Houston. She went to eight high school.

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Speaker 1: As a kid, we spent a lot of time here.

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Speaker 1: I have a sister who lives here as well. I

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Speaker 1: have cousins here. So I've spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: in Houston in my formative years. But you then moved

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Speaker 1: to California. Is that where you went to high school?

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Speaker 1: Gro up there? But I was born and raised in California. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my mom grew up here in Houston, so man, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a California kid. All right, California kid. You went

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Speaker 1: to Cincinnati right to play? Yes, I went to junior

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Speaker 1: college first out of high school with then to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: All right. And you've coached a bunch of places here.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting to me. And talk about a few

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Speaker 1: of the stops here, coach, because I think that all

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Speaker 1: the experience you have is really going to help this team.

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Speaker 1: How does it change? How do you evolve as a

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Speaker 1: coach when you're coaching at different stops in the national particular.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty broad, deep question right there. I mean

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Speaker 1: I can just start. You know when I when I

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Speaker 1: left Boston College and went to the Rams as a coach.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had some success in college and I

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Speaker 1: thought I knew it all right, and then you go

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Speaker 1: to the Rams. I went to the Rams and I

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Speaker 1: was an assistant there for two years, and then I

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Speaker 1: went to Arizona. I had to line by myself, and

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Speaker 1: that was an experience because you really, come to find

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Speaker 1: out the first time you have them by yourself in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you know half of what you think you know,

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Speaker 1: and then it's a process, right, and the process never stops,

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Speaker 1: so you're always learning and growing and figuring out how

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Speaker 1: to get the best out of your players. So so

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Speaker 1: for me that first experience to now, I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: always learning and growing. I learned a lot from my players,

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Speaker 1: get a lot of information from them in terms of

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Speaker 1: how I give information, how they understand what we're trying

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Speaker 1: to get done, and how I get it across um

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Speaker 1: what's best, and I can tell what I do to

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Speaker 1: them for the most part, Coach, what's changed the most

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Speaker 1: since you got into the league. I mean technology has

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Speaker 1: become a really big part of a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I know that we do, I know that teams do.

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Speaker 1: What's been the biggest change for you since you got

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Speaker 1: into the league this the amount of information, right, And

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Speaker 1: really what's changed to me is just what players can grasp.

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Speaker 1: You can be really putting to the cutting the edge

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Speaker 1: of things, and yeah, as I say, we can play

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Speaker 1: dirty a lot more because the players have a better

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Speaker 1: understanding of what could happen from a scheme standpoint. When

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a defense and you can explain something

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Speaker 1: that you know they're in this front, they can only

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Speaker 1: do certain things because of coverage. Right when you started,

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Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about coverage, but now we

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about coverage. Coach George Warhop joining us

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. We always say the old line is

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Speaker 1: the closest position group on the team. Why is that

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Speaker 1: in your opinion? Because we won't survive if we're not okay,

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Speaker 1: we have to be joined at the hip. Myself included

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Speaker 1: myself and how we have to be tied to these guys.

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Speaker 1: These guys have to be tied to one another. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's got to be absolute trust, right, So when they're

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Speaker 1: out there playing, we always start off, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have specific calls and we would communicate, but when they

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Speaker 1: start playing, it might be a grunt, it might be

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Speaker 1: a look, it might be a tap, it might be whatever.

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Speaker 1: To get things done. So for us to survive, we

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Speaker 1: gotta be joined at the hip, I mean super tight.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, are you gonna get fined for doing this

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Speaker 1: interview with us being on the radio. We'll figure that

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Speaker 1: when we start, when we start meeting together, those fines

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Speaker 1: will be going back and forth because I have no

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Speaker 1: problem finding them either. Yeah, well, we'll try not to

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Speaker 1: get them on the radio. I guess if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: end up getting fined, although they are, they are some

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Speaker 1: of the more cerebral guys you're gonna you're gonna meet.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned coverage, which is pretty pretty interesting when you

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Speaker 1: are are looking at young players, players coming out of

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Speaker 1: college and you're bringing up to the NFL. Is that

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Speaker 1: something that you're looking for them to see whether they

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Speaker 1: have a knowledge of that or is that something Hey,

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Speaker 1: this might be new to you. You're learning the whole

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Speaker 1: NFL game, but we're gonna teach you to look at

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Speaker 1: the full picture as opposed to just your little sense

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Speaker 1: of Is that something you look for as you start

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Speaker 1: to look at young players. No, I think that's happening

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Speaker 1: in college, right, boundary pressures, tackles, making calls, So that's

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Speaker 1: something that's that's ongoing. Most guys come into the league

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Speaker 1: happen to do some of that, seeing the back end

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Speaker 1: and making their calls. But way back when a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams weren't coaching that right. What was it like

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Speaker 1: working with Lovey Smith prior to this at Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: I love working with love You. One thing about love

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Speaker 1: You Now, he's pretty clear about what he wants what

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Speaker 1: the expectations are for the coaches, for the players, and

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Speaker 1: if you like understanding what's expected, you want to work

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Speaker 1: and play for Lovey Right, there's never any gray. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be pretty matter of fact. And as you guys know,

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Speaker 1: love He's even killed, doesn't Yale, doesn't scream, Hey doesn't

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Speaker 1: cuss in none of that. He just says, this is

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Speaker 1: what I want, this is what I expect, and that's that.

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Speaker 1: And for me as a coach, I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can be in a better environment. I've got another former coach.

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Speaker 1: You worked with Bill Parcels with the Dallas Cowboys. What

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Speaker 1: was that like? That was probably the greatest learning experience

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Speaker 1: I've ever had as a coach. Bill is difficult to

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Speaker 1: work with at times, all right, he's very demanding and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: But once you understand what he wants, okay, and you

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Speaker 1: understand how he wants to go about building the roster,

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Speaker 1: how he wants to play. I still use a lot

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Speaker 1: of the stuff I learned from him even today. So

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Speaker 1: it was probably the best experience I've had from a

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Speaker 1: learning standpoint throughout my career in the NFL coach. I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of our listeners over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years the run game here in Houston. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've probably been beat over the head with this, but

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Speaker 1: the run game in Houston has not been good the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. I think we've been near the

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Speaker 1: bottom of league, if not the bottom of the league

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Speaker 1: in the run game the last couple of years. I

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Speaker 1: know our listeners are fans like, when are we gonna

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Speaker 1: get a running game? So I'll put the question you

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Speaker 1: not so much when are we getting a running game?

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Speaker 1: But I'll ask it this way. What's it's important to

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Speaker 1: being successful in the running game in the NFL. Consistency? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you just got to be consistent from a technique standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You got to be consistent how you approach it. You know,

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Speaker 1: my big thing is we want to be physical, right,

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Speaker 1: we want to come off the ball. We want strained finish,

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Speaker 1: we want surge finish. You know, as you look at

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Speaker 1: the d lineman in this league, especially the interior guys,

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Speaker 1: some of these dudes are monsters, right, So to say

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Speaker 1: we're going to go take a guy off the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage four yards and we're smoking dope if we're

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Speaker 1: talking about that, right, But what we want to do

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Speaker 1: is get our fits, bring our feet after contact, we

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Speaker 1: want to surge, finish, and if a guy's trying to

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Speaker 1: make a play on our back, we want to force

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Speaker 1: arm tackles. Right, so when our backs running through the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, which should be a three yard run

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Speaker 1: is going to turn into a five yard run with

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Speaker 1: our surge and his surge. So it's just some mentality

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Speaker 1: technique wise and an understanding that you know, if we

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Speaker 1: do our part, okay, we'll take care of the first

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Speaker 1: and second level and then incorporating the receivers to do

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Speaker 1: a great job with the third level players and that's

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Speaker 1: when you start having a real successful running game. Here

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Speaker 1: we are in draft prep. Combine is coming up coach

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Speaker 1: and the draft and evaluating potential selections. What do you

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Speaker 1: see in college athletes that translates and what do you

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Speaker 1: see that you say, well, look, he's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: develop this, this and this and everybody needs to get better.

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Speaker 1: I get that, But what are you looking for in

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Speaker 1: a young player? I'm pretty particular about what I look for.

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Speaker 1: I look for things that I can't coach. So I

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Speaker 1: got a thing for length. I want my guys to

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Speaker 1: have length. I want my guys to have athleticism. I

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Speaker 1: want them to have quickness and change of direction, and

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Speaker 1: they got to have toughness that's got to be displayed

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Speaker 1: on tape the rest of it. If they fit those things,

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Speaker 1: then that's up to us to get them to play

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Speaker 1: to the level we want them to play. Coach, do

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Speaker 1: you have a pretty defined and know we go through

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Speaker 1: this a lot. You're a pretty defined thought process between

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Speaker 1: guard and tackle. Guy plays guard or play tackle in

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Speaker 1: college and he's gonna maybe project into guard. You hear

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Speaker 1: a lot. It's too much made about that guy could play.

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Speaker 1: You just find a spot form. How do you kind

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Speaker 1: of look at guarded tackle in particular? No, that's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent accurate. I mean there's certain guys that can

638
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Speaker 1: do both, and there's certain guys that are one position

639
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Speaker 1: guys or inside guys outside guys. Again, Number one, length, Right,

640
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to play tackle if your length is

641
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Speaker 1: less than thirty three, and to me, if it's less

642
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: than thirty four. Yeah, you can play guard with a

643
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Speaker 1: thirty three thirty two and a half somewhere net range.

644
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Speaker 1: So if you don't have the length as attack, you're

645
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: not talking waist size here by the all right, so

646
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: these guys are pretty skinny, actually, all right, and then

647
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: a strange at tackle. Right, So you need to have

648
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: the guys that have vertical range at tackle, because they

649
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: got to work off the line of scrimmage. Guards, you're

650
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: looking at horizontal range. How far can they stretch on

651
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage? And then the next thing is

652
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: just popping explosion internally, right, you got to have a

653
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: guy inside a guard that has some girth and some

654
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: strength in his hips and his lower body that can

655
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: displace the line of scrimmage. That is not as important

656
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: as attack. So there is some defined differences. There's some

657
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: guys that can do both. But most of your very

658
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: best tackles their tackles, right, Some of your very best

659
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: guards have been transition guys that started off as tackles

660
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: and have gone inside. And then in college, a lot

661
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: of those guys that are playing guard, they also transfer

662
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: our transition to play in center, right, just because they

663
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: can get away with smaller guys in college that have

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Speaker 1: to play inside. I have to go to the the center.

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Speaker 1: All right. I've got one more for you, and I

666
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Speaker 1: have to ask you this now, because who knows when

667
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Speaker 1: we get to talk again, but one of your stops,

668
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Speaker 1: London Monarchs offensive coordinator, how is that experience? What was that?

669
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Speaker 1: A couple of seasons in the nineties that was awesome.

670
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: That was awesome. The first year we won the championship.

671
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: The second year we weren't as good, but quite an experience. Right.

672
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: We got together in Orlando, drafted a team, put it together.

673
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Everybody went about it differently. Our head coach was Larry Kennon.

674
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: He had he knew a lot of these guys from

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We took a lot of renegades. I mean

676
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: we had some guys that were renegades and Larry managed them. Uh.

677
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: And you're talking about a group that came together. I

678
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: mean it was such a very background of guys and

679
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: we were in a dorm in London or in Bushey, London, right, Uh.

680
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: And these guys were joined at the hip and from

681
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: various backgrounds all came together. All they cared about was winning.

682
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Our practices were phenomenal. I mean they were so competitive

683
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: and aggressive and physical. And then it just transferred to

684
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: the games and we just ran people over. I mean

685
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Speaker 1: it was you went out and play our defense with

686
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Speaker 1: dominant our offense was dominant. It was it was really phenomenal. Coach,

687
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Speaker 1: how much would it I mean, the NFL is doing

688
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Speaker 1: pretty well on its own, but how much would it

689
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: help to have a developmental league, like having something that

690
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: like what was in London. I mean, obviously the story

691
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: everybody knows this, Kurt Warner went over there to Amsterdam

692
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Speaker 1: and tour it up after being in the renal League.

693
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Speaker 1: But how important would it be to have a developmental

694
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Speaker 1: league that had a connection with the NFL to allow

695
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Speaker 1: players like they did back in the nineties, like you

696
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Speaker 1: guys had. I think it would be helpful. I mean,

697
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Speaker 1: when you look at from my position, right, guys coming

698
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: out of college, they're in spread offenses, they're working out

699
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: a two point stances. They don't understand the pro game.

700
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Speaker 1: If you could put them in the situation these guys

701
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: that are your practice squad guys, he's back into your

702
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Speaker 1: roster guys, and put them in that situation when they

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Speaker 1: get game time. You know, we played ten games, that's

704
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: that's huge. When these guys come back. I know, the

705
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: last time the World League was around, if I'm not mistaken,

706
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: I was with San Francisco and we had a kid

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Speaker 1: named Harvey doll Right. Harvey was signed as a free

708
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: agent by Dallas. They cut him. We signed him in

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Speaker 1: the summer of his rookie year. He made our practice squad.

710
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: The next year we sent him to London. He came back,

711
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Speaker 1: he made our team. He made our team. The next year.

712
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: We had a numbers crunch, so we put him on

713
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Speaker 1: the practice squad Atlanta. I signed him off our practice

714
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Speaker 1: squad and he played for I don't know, nine or

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Speaker 1: ten years. And Harvey was a very good player, so

716
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Speaker 1: it was really helpful to him. I had another guy

717
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: named Tony Raggie that did the same thing. He was

718
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of a back end of the roster guy. He

719
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: went over and played, came back and me at our

720
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: team played five or six years after that. So if

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Speaker 1: you can get these young guys playing time that they

722
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Speaker 1: can home their craft, I think it would be advantageous

723
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: for the NFL because I think quarterbacks and offensive line

724
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: are the hardest places to develop. They need time, they

725
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: need time on the field, they need true game time,

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00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: and if you can get them that, I think it's

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Speaker 1: only going to advance the game. Coach, thank you so

728
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Speaker 1: much so to visit, best of luck. Thank you. I know,

729
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: our guys said Sports Trade of six ten have been

730
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Speaker 1: playing a lot of the cuts from the assistant coaches

731
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Speaker 1: when they went up to meet with the media, so

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Speaker 1: I think it's a chance to hear too many of those.

733
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Speaker 1: But just listening to the to our guys, they spoke

734
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Speaker 1: so highly of what George had to say. Listen to

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Speaker 1: his cuts talking about you know, the measurement. Then you

736
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Speaker 1: see you heard I asked that question. Two. He didn't

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Speaker 1: bring up yards per carry, but he did bring up consistency,

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Speaker 1: consistency in what they do, and then he went on

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Speaker 1: and talked football speak, which was just orgasmic for me,

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Speaker 1: if you will. So it's really cool to hear from

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Speaker 1: George warhob new offensive line coach for your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Drew Doherty and I discuss the number

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Speaker 1: two prospect on the Harris one hundred. He plays defensive

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Speaker 1: end as an edge rusher from the University of Michigan.

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Speaker 1: He is Aiden Hutchinson. Will discuss him next on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. It's all Access, it's all access. Here we

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Speaker 1: go on final segment of this draft Wednesday dation of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access that we're gonna talk a little draft.

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Speaker 1: Here on in the Lab, I have John Harris. My

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Speaker 1: co host on Into Lab is Drew Doherty. We talked

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Speaker 1: about Aiden Hutchinson, but we begin with Aiden Hutchinson. A

752
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: lot of folks have him is the very best player

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Speaker 1: in this draft, the number one overall prospect. I as

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Speaker 1: an exercise, and I would recommend this to anyone who

755
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Speaker 1: wants to learn war about the draft process and the

756
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Speaker 1: draft prospects this year. I make sure you check out

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00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: the Harris one hundred that John does when it's coming out.

758
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Speaker 1: But b I go to places like PF dot com,

759
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: the Draftnetwork dot com and do their mock draft simulations.

760
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Are very fun exercises. I've gotten in the habit of

761
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: about once a week sending one one that I do

762
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: to John and saying, hey, look who the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two Texans got. Because the one today got some defensive

764
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Speaker 1: line help, got a playmaker at wide receiver, got a

765
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: playmaker in the defensive backfield. It was pretty fun. But

766
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: tell me about Aiden Hutchinson, John Harris, what do you

767
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: think there's so much to like about Aiden? It's funny.

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Speaker 1: I read an article today by Chel Capeta, who writes

769
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Speaker 1: for the athletic. He says ten things your organization should

770
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Speaker 1: not do this offseason, and I think it was number

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00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: two or number three was don't fall in love with anybody,

772
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: which is really good advice. And it's funny because over

773
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: the years, this was probably about four or five years ago,

774
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Speaker 1: Mike Meltzer at Set Payne were doing morning radio and

775
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: I was driving into the stadium and the two of

776
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: them actually had a discussion going back and forth about

777
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: me being the GM of the team, and I'm just like,

778
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, I almost drove off the road. But

779
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: they made some valid points and then Mike said, this

780
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Speaker 1: is the one thing I would worry about is that

781
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: John does fall in love and prospects. That's very true,

782
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Speaker 1: and Hutchinson is one of those guys and it's hard

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Speaker 1: not to I know, I'm I'm not alone there. And

784
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Speaker 1: when I say that, I really really think Aidan Hutchinson

785
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: is following the footsteps of guys like Miles Garrett, Nick Bosa,

786
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, guys that can just wreck the game off

787
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: the edge. He is incredibly athletic for a guy that's

788
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: six five sixty six, two seventy to seventy five. I

789
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: mean you see him and you're you're like, WHOA is

790
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: he two fifty? And then you don't know he's two seventy.

791
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: He's legit sized, he is legit athletically, twitchy off the edge,

792
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: he is violent with his hands. He's what you want

793
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: a four three defensive and to bet. But if a

794
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: team that drafts him runs at three to four and

795
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: they want to stand h up as outside linebacker and

796
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: do some of those things, I think he would be

797
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: just as effective in those particular schemes. I in twenty twenty,

798
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: and you know I do this true. It's about this

799
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: time where I started looking forward to the not the

800
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: coming drop, the following draft. Right, so I'm about a

801
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: week away from really diving into twenty twenty three. I

802
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: actually keep two databases, one the current one and one

803
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: coming up, so I was doing that for twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: This is a couple of years ago, and I'm watching it.

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Speaker 1: It's Quitty Pay and it's Aidan Hutchinson. I'm watching him

806
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: both and I can't, man, Wow, I'm really like torn

807
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: on which guy think is better? Which guy is more athletic?

808
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: And then Quitty pages in the draft and you see

809
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: all the things he did as prota and you're like, yo,

810
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: that dude's athletic. Well, that dude's athletic, and that means

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson is Oh my god, he is that good. And

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00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: it was just that Hutchinson had an injury in twenty twenty,

813
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: came back, I think obviously the right thing, and coming

814
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: back because he had that year. He had that year

815
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Speaker 1: that got everybody's attention. He took his game to a

816
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: different level. Hands are tremendous. He plays one of the

817
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Speaker 1: great universities in the country in the University of Michigan UM.

818
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Speaker 1: So from that perspective, I think Aidan Hutchinson would be

819
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Speaker 1: an absolutely fantastic selection at number three if it happens.

820
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: And when you sent me your mock dropping, he was

821
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: at the top, I said done. I like the rest

822
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: of the guys were getting Hutchinson teaming in with a

823
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Speaker 1: guy like John Bernard. Those are your two edge guys.

824
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Speaker 1: I think you could do way, way, way worse than that.

825
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I still see him going past two. I mean, I

826
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: guess straight, but I don't see that happen. I know

827
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Speaker 1: maybe he's at the first guy, but I don't I

828
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: don't see two teams pass him up. Here's what we need.

829
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Speaker 1: Here's what we need, Drew, we need for the Lions

830
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: and Brad Holmes GM and Lions. When he was down

831
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: in Mobile, he interview I think it was Tom Pellasaro

832
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: while it was reigning during practice. He said, oh, yeah,

833
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: we're we'll move. Yeah, come on, So what we is

834
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: for some team to fall in love with a player

835
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: not named Aiden, fall in love with a quarterback. Potentially,

836
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Speaker 1: I want to move with Detroit, thinking that Texans might

837
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: take a quarterback and get in front of the Texans

838
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: and then that drops Hutchinson at number three and then

839
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: pounce and away you go. That's kind of my hope.

840
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: But if Detroit doesn't do that, in troitson a two.

841
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, young man was born in Michigan, played at Michigan.

842
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: The Lions need edge help. It makes all kinds of

843
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: sense in the world for Hutchinson to go to Detroit

844
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Speaker 1: a number two if the Jackson don't do it at

845
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Speaker 1: number one. When I was listening back to in the

846
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Speaker 1: lab and I heard myself say that, I took me

847
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Speaker 1: back to the twenty eighteen draft and we didn't have

848
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Speaker 1: any first rounders at nights. Our draft party wasn't until

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Speaker 1: the next night and we were down in the digital

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Speaker 1: Mark and I were doing the draft. And as the

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Speaker 1: draft is moving down into the mid to late twenties

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Speaker 1: and it's getting down there, Lamar Jackson is still sitting

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Speaker 1: on the board and I'm sitting next to Dray and

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Speaker 1: Dray goton a Lamar very well. In fact, as Lamar

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Speaker 1: is in the green room, Drey and Lamar texting each other,

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Speaker 1: Andrey's just telling him, Hey, hanging there, man, It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And so the Jags are coming up on the board

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Speaker 1: and they have Blake Bortles as a quarterback, and I

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Speaker 1: remember thinking, no, Drey and I look each other like,

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Speaker 1: he cannot go. Lamar Jackson cannot go to Jacksonville. He

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Speaker 1: cannot go to Jacksonville. He cannot go to Jacksonville. Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: Jaguars select, and We'll hold our breath. Tavan Brian we cheered.

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Speaker 1: If the Jacksonville Jaguars passed on eight and Hudgets at

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Speaker 1: number one, I think I will have the same reaction.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to cheer. No, that's all for

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Speaker 1: tonight's show. Really appreciate George Warhop for joining us, appreciate

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Speaker 1: Mark A Makers Santiago, but a huge, massive thanks to

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Speaker 1: Nick Assario for being along for the ride. Basically, I

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Speaker 1: mean he just he jumped right in with Mark and

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Speaker 1: I didn't bat an eye, did our wednes To night

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Speaker 1: draft and was absolutely awesome. You guys are the best.

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Speaker 1: We'll see them. Arrow has always go Texans,