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Speaker 1: For John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast, John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that bost to next time.

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Speaker 4: Job there cook Douffia Crack.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 5: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Who probably should have gone for a run this morning.

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Speaker 6: Now that we're back on video, it's Monday, September twenty third,

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Speaker 6: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you all checking back.

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Speaker 6: In episode two eighteen of the Anik and Florian podcast,

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Speaker 6: so Ken Flow, I wasn't able to watch the Rodriguez

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Speaker 6: Stevens show live, and somebody reach out to me on

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Speaker 6: Twitter this morning when I ingested this on Monday morning.

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Speaker 6: I watched the car this morning and they said, you know,

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Speaker 6: what are you doing if you're not watching live? And

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Speaker 6: you don't want to read much into the tone on Twitter,

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Speaker 6: but it's like, bro, like, what what are you doing

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Speaker 6: if you're not watching UFC Fight Night Rodriguez versus Stevens?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 6: I can think of any number of different things that

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Speaker 6: I could be doing. I could be at a casino.

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Speaker 6: I could have a basit, or I could have a

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Speaker 6: night out. I could be watching college football. Now I'm

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Speaker 6: a UFC fanatic, like this gentleman, I was sleeping.

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Speaker 2: I was sleeping. You know. I three children under the age.

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Speaker 6: Of nine, and they wake up early and we go

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Speaker 6: to bed about nine pm Eastern times.

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Speaker 4: Exactly to two words for that guy. Three kids. That's

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Speaker 4: what he That's what I did. Three freaking kids.

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Speaker 2: Dog.

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Speaker 6: By the way, if you're looking for reasons to have children,

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Speaker 6: I've got a list of those. I got a list

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Speaker 6: of reasons to not have children as well. But if

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Speaker 6: you're looking for reasons to have children, one of the

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Speaker 6: best reasons to have children. It is the greatest excuse

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Speaker 6: in the world if you need an excuse for anything. Right,

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Speaker 6: dog's pretty good, right, like kennfa a couple of minutes

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Speaker 6: late today because his his puppy had to use the

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Speaker 6: restroom outside. Right, Yeah, But generally speaking, kids are a

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Speaker 6: great excuse.

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Speaker 2: New puppy, by the way, under that Florian.

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Speaker 4: Roof, Huh. Yes, we finally have a name for him.

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Speaker 4: We called we called him Simba. Uh not responding to Simba.

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Speaker 2: But he's a good little dog.

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Speaker 4: He's chewing on his bed already, but uh a little pitbull,

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Speaker 4: cute as hell, and now we got two dogs and

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Speaker 4: a baby. So it's like, what do we It's it

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Speaker 4: is like we were talking about earlier. It is like

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Speaker 4: three kids, and it's like prep for a second kid.

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Speaker 4: Who's gonna be that's gonna make it full?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I like the way your wife kind of teased things

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Speaker 6: on Instagram, had someone stinking for a second. So baby,

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Speaker 6: Oh it's a puppy. So all right, So Simba Simba

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Speaker 6: Florian has a ride. But yeah, you got just as

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Speaker 6: many dependents as I do. Let's make that very clear.

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Speaker 6: Uh you know, not that your wife or my wife

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Speaker 6: is a dependent, right, we co exist. But you have

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Speaker 6: two dogs, one child. I have three children, no dogs.

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Speaker 6: We he's got three dependents, all right? So uh yeah,

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Speaker 6: yout Rodriguez, Jeremy Stevens, no test accidental. I poke fifteen

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Speaker 6: seconds into round one. There's nothing worse than when a

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Speaker 6: not necessarily a foul if memory serves, But basically, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you're Rodriguez with a sort of raking motion. I thought

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Speaker 6: it was inadvertent, accidental. Some people think that it was intentional.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but Jeremy Stevens, to a man, one

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Speaker 6: going to be able to fight effectively. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 4: Know, first of all, I thought Michael Bismack did a

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter about what work he put in.

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens is the guy to go out there and quit.

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Speaker 4: You know, fifteen seconds into a fight. Okay, this guy

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Speaker 2: He couldn't even open his eye.

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Speaker 4: Clearly, we saw the aftermath, you know, with what he

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Speaker 2: Five months or so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was horrible to see, man, Everything about it

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Speaker 4: a very important fight at one hundred and forty five pounds,

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Speaker 4: It was the main event in Yair Rodriguez's hometown in

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Speaker 4: Mexico City, and it just was awful. And then people

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Speaker 6: Jeremy Stevens right, like literally the last guy, yeah, on

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Speaker 6: the last thing he's looking for is a way out.

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Speaker 6: And there was a long list of fighters who you

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Speaker 2: Loves to punch faces.

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Speaker 4: This guy would would not avoid any circumstance where he

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's a mean individual. I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: of incited the crowd, right, I mean, these guys wanted

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Speaker 2: Dude, it was a fifteen second fight. You scratched the guy,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I was not it. He showed a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not a shining moment for uh, for Yaya Rodriguez.

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Speaker 6: And I think some of that, obviously can be chalked

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Speaker 6: I also think too, if you're Rya Rodriguez and you're

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Speaker 6: you kind of know what Jeremy Stevens is true colors

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, three rounds versus five. Are

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Speaker 4: And for the fans that you know, paid a lot

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Speaker 6: But I think that we have we have a New

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Speaker 6: Yorker on hold, we do. Let's get to Ray Longo.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna push a hole in this fucking shot.

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Speaker 1: That's what the Ray Longo minute during Ray long The

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Speaker 2: You know flow.

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Speaker 6: I can just tell from the nature of Ray Longo's

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Speaker 2: York and New York.

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Speaker 7: I can't see what texting didn't give off any indication

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Speaker 7: of going on. Obviously, red right through it that because

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Speaker 7: and a lot of good anxiety. It's good anxiety.

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Speaker 2: So who's in charge of your schedule? Right?

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Speaker 7: That would be me?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was like a lawyer in there. I

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Speaker 4: You're in Mexico City, you're getting booed, you're getting things

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Speaker 2: Nobody. Did you guys see the video?

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Speaker 7: I don't know the guy, he's not faking anything.

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Speaker 4: You're in a person's home country and people are gonna

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Speaker 6: Like I joke about the anxiety off the top, but

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Speaker 2: This week.

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Speaker 7: We got a great schedule, and you know, for Vola,

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Speaker 7: started out, so he's got a good team down there,

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Speaker 7: so that's good. Yeah, it's a crazy schedule the way

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Speaker 7: it happened, and you know, Al was off to a

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Speaker 7: great start, so he had you know, he had time

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Speaker 7: to you know, he was way ahead of schedule, so

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Speaker 7: that should be good. And then Chris, we just got to,

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Speaker 7: you know, keep grinding it out and that's it, you know,

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Speaker 7: make sure everybody stays on track.

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Speaker 6: So what are the odds of us getting five minutes

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Speaker 6: with you next Monday before you head out?

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Speaker 7: Oh no, next Monday.

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Speaker 4: We're good.

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Speaker 7: I'm not leaving until the afternoon. We should be good

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Speaker 7: next Monday.

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Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna we're gonna have Yeahya Rodriguez on

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Speaker 6: and we're gonna let the two of you go.

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Speaker 7: Let me let me tell you something. Even I'm telling

452
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Speaker 7: you that was I'm gonna say, despicable. How's that? I

453
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Speaker 7: really didn't like that man, and I wanted to see

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Speaker 7: the fight, just like everybody else did, not at the

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Speaker 7: expense of the guy losing an eye.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 7: All right, all right, that nobody I'm becoming a I

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Speaker 7: think I am a Pluto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you said it, you said it. I did

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Speaker 2: have a great week, buddy. We'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right?

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Speaker 7: I think it easy.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 6: The Ray Long Goo minute here every week on the

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Speaker 6: anticon Floring Podcast. And of course, not only do we

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Speaker 6: have a New Yorker headlining this Boston show, but now

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Speaker 6: the local Calvin cater is off of the Boston cardies fightings.

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Speaker 6: I beat Mago MetOp now on Sharipops home on Mago

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Speaker 6: met Treepops home turf in Russia. So uh man, not

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Speaker 6: ideal for the Bostonians, but uh what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: All Right?

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Speaker 6: We will recap as far as a grosso a little

473
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Speaker 6: bit with Ian Parker on the other side, but we

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Speaker 6: are going to spin this thing forward now, at least

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Speaker 6: with a pronunciation of the week because TJ needs a

476
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Speaker 6: win and he's eight and ten on the year. Big

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Speaker 6: miss last week out of my guy TJ.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis.

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Speaker 6: This week it is a promising UFC light heavyweight from Poland.

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Speaker 6: He is riding a twelve fight on beaten streak faces

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Speaker 6: Ovin Saint Prue on the main card this weekend in Copenhagen.

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Speaker 6: By the way, the research told me it is Copenhagen,

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Speaker 6: not Copenhagen.

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Speaker 2: TJ. DeSantis, of whom am I speaking.

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Speaker 4: Mikhael olashshuk A, Yeah, I'd love it.

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Speaker 2: We're not putting TJ on the spot.

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Speaker 6: He's a good sport, but I don't do this like

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Speaker 6: for my own comedic value.

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Speaker 2: But that was good TJ. Let's hear the fighter.

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Speaker 6: How he pronounces it, Michael Lord plus perfect?

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Speaker 2: I mean right on the tip.

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Speaker 4: I can't even say that after I heard him say it.

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Speaker 4: How's that right?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry?

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Speaker 6: Did I not? When I sent him the file today?

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Speaker 6: I wrote, you know l O L dude. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's like right you damn if you do, damned if

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Speaker 6: you don't, I'll probably mess it up on broadcast. But

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Speaker 6: he is uh, he is eight and eleven on the year,

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Speaker 6: mister DeSantis. After a WHI there on me call Olak

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Speaker 6: shade Chuk all right?

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? Was that close? What did you just call me?

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Speaker 2: The only way to get this right.

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Speaker 6: I've said this before, Like if I'm calling Olak shai

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Speaker 6: Juk's next fight, which I am not this weekend, I'll

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Speaker 6: say it one hundred times in my room, like over

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Speaker 6: the course of fight weeks, so by the time I

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Speaker 6: show up, it's a word that I've been using all week.

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Speaker 6: It's the only possible possible way that I found to.

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Speaker 2: Get it right. John will fit it into a sentence

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Speaker 2: for no reason. I'd be like, yeah, I was talking

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Speaker 2: to the other day and was saying, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I didn't even see it. You know what, I mean,

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Speaker 2: John is actually like that we all got our.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you know I mean and part part of the

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Speaker 6: reason I put about the show today was like I

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Speaker 6: need some work on this.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it for the pow.

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Speaker 6: Let us get to the picks and the main event challenge.

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Speaker 1: It's the main Event challenge.

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Speaker 6: All right, We're gonna get to UFC Denmark here in

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Speaker 6: a moment. But Ian Parker now joins us live as

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Speaker 6: we continue our Mexico City recap. Ian ray Longo just

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Speaker 6: did not want to stop talking today. You know, in TV,

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Speaker 6: they would have been like, dude, rap fucking rap. Bro

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Speaker 6: Kenflow wasn't gonna rap very long ago because he respects

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Speaker 6: his elders. So sorry, we're a few minutes late, buddy,

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Speaker 6: what's going on?

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Speaker 3: If you had told him I had to get on

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Speaker 3: the show, he probably would have really quick because he

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Speaker 3: probably doesn't want to talk to me.

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Speaker 6: Do you imagine we're like, hey, Ray, sorry, buddy, Ian

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Speaker 6: Parker's on hold, uh so we gotta let you go.

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Speaker 6: So uh man, we we really spend a lot of

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Speaker 6: time on Rodriguez and Stevens. But I just want to

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Speaker 6: throw the rule out there very quickly because I promised

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Speaker 6: myself I would do this. So this is directly from

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Speaker 6: the ABC rules. You can all look them up. If

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Speaker 6: they fell to the groin occurs groin. Here we're talking,

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Speaker 6: and the competitor is able to continue, the foul contestant

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Speaker 6: may have up to five minutes to recover. Fighters injured

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Speaker 6: severely enough by a foul to require medical consultation may

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Speaker 6: be given up to maybe given up to five minutes

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Speaker 6: that the referees discretion for evaluation by the ringside physician

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Speaker 6: before a decision to continue is rendered. So again there's

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Speaker 6: a lot of language interpretation here. I always like to

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Speaker 6: go to John McCarthy because I think he's the best

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Speaker 6: resource in MMA. He has told me in the past

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Speaker 6: that basically, when it's a growing strike, you are guaranteed

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Speaker 6: your five minutes. Then the referees discretion comes in when

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Speaker 6: it comes to an ipoke Ian. What were your thoughts

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Speaker 6: on the fight ending situation, how Herb Dean handled it

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Speaker 6: and everything that transpired Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: I think Herb Dean did the best that anyone could

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Speaker 3: have done that situation. You know, it's a really tough

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Speaker 3: call and how much time to give someone, But in

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Speaker 3: a situation like that where it was a not just

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Speaker 3: a pope, the problem was that it was a swipe,

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Speaker 3: you know, and when that happened, and he couldn't even

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Speaker 3: open his eye. And the only reason why I know

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Speaker 3: about this, it's not due to me being a doctor,

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Speaker 3: which I wish I was, but I'm not. Had a

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Speaker 3: cornyhill scratch as well, and when that happens, you can't

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Speaker 3: open your eye, and when you can, it burns like hell.

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Speaker 3: He literally scratches. Corny a pretty bad. It takes a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks to heal. But at the moment he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna fight with one eye. And if you saw,

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Speaker 3: he could barely even open the other eye for whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: So in that situation, it's just a regular eyepoke, you know,

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Speaker 3: and the guy is clearly you know, the guy is red,

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Speaker 3: it's tearing up. That was the issue that people had

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Speaker 3: with Todd Duffy last week or a week ago, is

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Speaker 3: that his eye was open. It wasn't red, you know,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't teared up or anything. Jeremy Stevens is not

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Speaker 3: someone who's gonna walk away and quit. So I give

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Speaker 3: a lot of credit to Herb. Beam really tried to

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Speaker 3: give him as much time as possible. I think it

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Speaker 3: being the main event had a lot to do with

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Speaker 3: it also, and I don't know, yeah, Jeremy Stevens, but

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Speaker 3: I think Herb did really a stellar job in the situation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what else he could have

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Speaker 3: done other than give Jeremy a new eye.

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Speaker 6: As far as the fans in Mexico City are concerned,

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Speaker 6: at least those in attendance, if you group them collectively,

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Speaker 6: are an easy target here as we sit here on

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Speaker 6: a Monday afternoon, they were already lit right because the

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Speaker 6: Brandon Moreno decision maybe didn't go their way, and then

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Speaker 6: Carla Asparza got the nod Kenny against Alexa Grosso.

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Speaker 2: So I think they're sort of they were ready and

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Speaker 2: inflamed already.

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Speaker 6: But Ian, what were your thoughts on sort of how

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Speaker 6: that crowd reacted when the fight ultimately was called off.

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Speaker 3: Well, I dumped a beer on my own head when

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Speaker 3: Moreno got to draw, because I definitely thought he won.

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Speaker 3: But in regards to in regards to everything else, you know,

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Speaker 3: for Carlos Sparza to get a beer dumped on her

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Speaker 3: as she's walking out, I hope it was only beer.

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Speaker 3: Pretty disrespectful, you know. I know sometimes you know, with

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Speaker 3: soccer and stuff like that, this happens or football. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: but it really is not called for, you know. And

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Speaker 3: if these fans, I guess maybe there was casual fans

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Speaker 3: or maybe they just packed arena. It was the first

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Speaker 3: time there and god knows how long or whatever. But

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Speaker 3: you know, Jeremy Stevens is not the guy to quit

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Speaker 3: after fifteen at all, fifteen seconds in I mean, from

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Speaker 3: what I heard he spent like thirty thousand on this camp.

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Speaker 3: To me, it was really despicable behavior. I don't like

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Speaker 3: to rope in. Obviously a crowd in itself, but you know,

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Speaker 3: there were some fighters there that I also so that

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Speaker 3: weren't that were kind of jumping into the situation. I'm

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Speaker 3: not gonna call it names for several reasons. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to get my ass kicked into. It is what

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Speaker 3: it is. But it really just was so uncalled for,

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Speaker 3: especially if you know the sport. You know Jeremy Stevens,

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Speaker 3: there's no reason why he should have been getting pelted

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Speaker 3: with beer or popcorn or whatever else is being thrown

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Speaker 3: out of him really really sucks. And that's how it ended.

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Speaker 3: And but Creg Fitzgerald, the least he was protected. He

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Speaker 3: was doing the whole hurricane drill, going under the desk.

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Speaker 3: Michael Bispass is taking it like a champ. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Man, It's funny, right, because when you live in South

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Speaker 6: Florida and you do this hurricane preparation, you almost become

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Speaker 6: of a mindset like, all right, let's let's see what

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Speaker 6: this thing has.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's not like you're rooting for the hurricane. But

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Speaker 2: when you're prepared, You're ready to go.

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Speaker 6: I think sometimes as a commentator, I'm rooting for chaos,

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Speaker 6: right Like I want to be in the bi the Beast.

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Speaker 2: I want that moment Brendan Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 6: I'm jealous, but uh yeah, I don't know that I'd

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Speaker 6: be ducking for cover. I'm like, dude, bring it, man,

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Speaker 6: I want some battle scars, man, give me some cauliflower ears.

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Speaker 3: Somehow Someway was he afraid of getting hit really hard

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Speaker 3: with liquid. I was confused, you know, and Michael bisping

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Speaker 3: next to him to protective and the anything got serious.

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Speaker 6: Hey he's very expensive suit, he reacted quickly. Hey, ken Fall,

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Speaker 6: I want to get your thoughts on the CO main event.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you had a strong opinion as

652
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Speaker 6: to who won the fight. Another great showcase, obviously for

653
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 6: this strawweight division that just continues to deliver for the UFC.

654
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 6: Carlos Barza a winner by majority decision, huge third round

655
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 6: for Alexa Grosso certainly appears to be a fighter who

656
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 6: is coming into her own flow.

657
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the CO Maine event over the weekend, buddy, You.

658
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: Know, I thought Alexa Grosso should have gotten the nod

659
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: and That's a hard thing for me to say, because

660
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 4: I thought Carla Isparzas showed an insane amount of heart

661
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: in that third round. She took a beating in that round,

662
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: also got her elbow popped like at least once.

663
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was.

664
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: Completely broken at one point. Just the angle and how

665
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: it shifted. It was nasty. Is Sparza is so tough

666
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: as is Grosso, But I thought Grosso should have gotten

667
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: a nod.

668
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: You know, you can argue that the last round was

669
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: a ten eight.

670
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 4: Maybe it was definitely close, but whatever it was, I

671
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: thought Grosso certainly won two out of the three rounds and.

672
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: It was close.

673
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it was a complete robbery, uh,

674
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: But for me, I thought Grosso definitely should have won.

675
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 6: And I think Alexa Grosso certainly showed how to handle

676
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 6: a loss or a circumstance and maybe how your Rodriguez

677
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 6: could learn from that. Your thoughts on the co headliner,

678
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 6: did you think that that Alexa Grosso also should have

679
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 6: gotten her hand raised.

680
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: I think they had decisions back whards the Moreno fight

681
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: and the Grosso. As far as the fight, I thought

682
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 3: Moreno should have gotten a nod, and I thought the

683
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: Grosso Sparsa I thought was go towards a draw. To

684
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 3: be honest with you, the reason why I say that

685
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: is round one was really hard to score. Okay, round

686
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: two I would have given to a spars and round

687
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: three if you give Grosso the ten eight because a

688
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: lot of people had one and two for Asparsa. No

689
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: way did I see that as an unanimous decision. I

690
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: think the Kenny's point, that's where the robbery can come

691
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: into play. I think those do matter. I think losing

692
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: by unanimous decision or a split that's controversial is a

693
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: big difference in someone's career, especially this in the way

694
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: that Grosso is. She's young. Sometimes these younger fighters and

695
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: they lose a big fight like that when they thought

696
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: they clearly won. Mentally, it affects their game. I did

697
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: think Grosso won, but I also thought it was going

698
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: towards the draw. I did not see aspar as the

699
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: wanning by unanimous decision at all.

700
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, we need we need to affect change somehow,

701
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 6: whether it's half points. I mean, Grosso certainly that can't

702
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 6: just be your standard ten to nine, right, you know,

703
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: I'm so liberal. I'll probably give her a ten seven

704
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: and a half for that type of round, right, a

705
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 6: near knockdown if not a knockdown elbow p you know,

706
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 6: I don't know.

707
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're looking for.

708
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: If she was winning from the bottom too, she was

709
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: hitting all the strikes from the bottom, I thought that

710
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: was the big difference too. Outside of the submission, well, we'll.

711
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: Update the standings.

712
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 6: It was one fifteen to one fourteen for Team Florian

713
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 6: heading into UFC Mexico City for the first time in

714
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: the history of this challenge zero zero because of all

715
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 6: the draws and no contests. So, uh, four picks for

716
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: you today, let us get to them. First fight for us.

717
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 6: I will be awake for this one. This one I

718
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 6: will stay up. Four explosive matchup two hundred and five pounds. Khalil,

719
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: don't call him Khalil. Khalil Roundtree Junior, the minus one

720
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 6: thirty five favorite taking on the plus one zero five underdog.

721
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: Ewonkut Dee Laba, Ewon Parker.

722
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Who do you like?

723
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: Well, if Jeremy Stevens wasn't who he was, I would

724
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: have asked for Kenny to be deducted for a point.

725
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: For back to back weeks of weeks of his predictions

726
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: quitting due to high folks, but because it's Jeremy Stevens.

727
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh that strike will ask that right there. That's a

728
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: good prop right there.

729
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

730
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, sorry, So Khalil Rowntree versus iron K. But

731
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: this is a really this is gonna be fireworks in

732
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: the making, you know. Ion Kutalba kind of showed us

733
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: obviously where he lacks a little bit in the fight

734
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: against Glover to Serra. We know he's gonna come out swinging,

735
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: we know he's gonna come out tough, strong, all that stuff.

736
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: But in that type of fight, you know, Glover had

737
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: obviously the ground game to rely on in this fight.

738
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: I don't see him winning this one either. I think

739
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: Khalil Rowntree showed us a lot of growth, a lot

740
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: of evolution in his game. I think his stand up

741
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: is way cleaner. I think he's not gonna go in

742
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 3: there and bra. I think he's got a lot smarter

743
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: as a fighter. I think the training in Thailand has

744
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: paid off huge. I don't think he's gonna have to

745
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: worry about going to the ground all this fight. I

746
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: think he's gonna you know, I wouldn't be surprised if

747
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: he knocked him out. If not, I think so that

748
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: he could win a decision just by standing up and

749
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: keeping the distance. I really like Khalil Rountree in this

750
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: fight a lot. I think this is a big fight

751
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: for him to win on his resume and to keep

752
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: climbing the ladder because I think there's a lot of

753
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: potential in him.

754
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, he has totally remade himself as a striker,

755
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: unbeaten in five of his last six, looked outstanding in

756
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 6: bludgeoning Eric Anders's last time out.

757
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: Kenny.

758
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: On the other side, he want kutte Laba submitted by

759
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 6: Glover to Shara as Ian mentioned back in April, certainly

760
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 6: could use a win here. He is a wild man.

761
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 6: Not not sure if he's a wild card in this division.

762
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not sure if he's over confident, but

763
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 6: he expects to just go in there and rip the

764
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 6: heads off of all these light heavyweights, and largely it

765
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 6: hasn't happened yet. Your thoughts on kote Laba slight dog

766
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 6: here against Khalil Rountree Junior.

767
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, Kutzalaba doesn't seem to know how to pace

768
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 4: himself very well. Tends to be a very emotional fighter,

769
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: but man is he tough. He does use takedowns from

770
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 4: time to time. He definitely has knockout power. We've seen

771
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: Roundtree get knocked out before. We've seen Roundtree knock a

772
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: lot of other guys out as well. But both these

773
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: guys are kind of walk wild cards in my opinion.

774
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: I think we've seen Khalil Rowntree kind of every other

775
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: fight show up and look amazing, and then every other

776
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: fight not look so hot and look like he's still

777
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: beginning his mixed martial arts career.

778
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: So it's tough. Roundtree is such a good dude, such

779
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: a nice guy.

780
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: I think, you know, maybe going to Thailand is going

781
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: to allow him to kind of be a little bit

782
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 4: more calmer inside the octagon.

783
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: I hope that's the case.

784
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: But still grappling takes a very long time to get down.

785
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: I still see that as a major weakness. Not that

786
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: Kutlaba is this wonder kid on the ground either, but

787
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 4: I think he does have better takedowns and we'll try

788
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: to mix those in to this fight. I'm gonna go

789
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: with Kutzalaba for the win here.

790
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 6: And he has spent a lot of time wrestling in

791
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 6: his life. That is yeah, for sure, all right, Gilbert

792
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 6: Urino Burns kind of finding new life as a short

793
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 6: notice welterweight. I still think he can contend at fifty five,

794
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 6: even though the weight is tough for him. Had to

795
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 6: win August tenth and Uuguay up at a hundred and

796
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 6: seventy pounds, third straight overall for Durinho. Now stepping in

797
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: for Thiago Alvez, will face Gooder Nelson and Burns. He

798
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 6: and slightly favored to get the win here minus one

799
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 6: thirty five Gooder Nelson slight dog plus one oh five

800
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 6: grappler's delight or.

801
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: Is it Ian Parker? What do you think Durinho Burns

802
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: Gooder Nelson?

803
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: You know this one. I've been going back and forth on.

804
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: I think Nelson is not thrilled, even though he'll never

805
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: show it on his face. He'll never say it. This

806
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: is like the exact opposite of a short notice matchup

807
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: that he won instead of Thiago Alvis for the obvious reasons,

808
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: with suching to manage in the ground game. Burns is

809
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: so good on the ground and what we saw in

810
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: his last fight, everyone picked against him. I really did not.

811
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 3: If you remember I liked him even at one seventy

812
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: in that matchup. I think his stand up is very underrated.

813
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: I think what everyone always throws against Burns is his cardio.

814
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: But you know, cardio unlike what you know. Kenny just

815
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: said in regards to Klil learning how to grapple cardio,

816
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: you can learn really quick. You just gotta put the

817
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: time in. You gotta have the rank, coach and everyone

818
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: pushing you to do it. I think if Burns his

819
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 3: cardio is up the speed, not having a cut all

820
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: that weight. He's a big he's not a small guy.

821
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: He could definitely contest at fifty five. I think the

822
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: weight cuts really played a factor. And when he's not

823
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: shown what he can do, so much potential in this

824
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 3: guy and for for Nelson. You know, I just don't

825
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: know what to expect in regards to the stand up game.

826
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think he's really gotten better. I

827
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: think it's the same style. It's throw the overhand, try

828
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: to clinch up, take the guy to the ground. I

829
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: don't think he'll be able to do that in this fight. Again,

830
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: someone in Burns who has that same resume, if not better,

831
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: with Brazilian jiu jitsu and I just think Burns his

832
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: stand up game is going to be where the advantage is.

833
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Not that I was. I'm hoping to pick an underdog

834
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: somewhere here, but I like Gilbert Burns here. I think

835
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: he's on a little bit of a run. I think

836
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: he started hitting stride and maybe he found the right

837
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: weight for him. So I'm going Gilbert Burns here.

838
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 6: When I tweeted about the matchup, it seemed like ten

839
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 6: sharp type Vegas people immediately wrote to me, Oh dude,

840
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 6: I gotta hammer Gilbert Burns because a lot of people

841
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 6: like the matchup for him. Kenny, we were in England

842
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 6: for goodar Nelson's UFC debut together back in twenty twelve.

843
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 6: Kind of felt like he was all the rage back then.

844
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 6: Pretty good body of work in the UFC. Eight wins

845
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 6: against four losses. He has dropped I think four of

846
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 6: his last eight, so four and four spanning his last

847
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 6: eight split decision lost to Leon Edwards back in March,

848
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 6: and I guess that at least temporarily served to take

849
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 6: him out of welcherweight contention. What do you think about

850
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 6: goodar Nelson here against Gilbert Burns.

851
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: Lit'sten I been a fan of Gunny for a long time.

852
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: I think he is an excellent martial artist, but I

853
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 4: do think this is a very tough matchup. Kudos to

854
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: him for taking this very tough match against Gilbert Burns.

855
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: But Gilbert has really turned things around and the way

856
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: that he trains, He's training all the time. I think

857
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: he is going to be much better suited for one

858
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy pounds. One hundred and fifty five was

859
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: just way too much for him to cut. I mean,

860
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 4: his neck should be on a milk carton.

861
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: He has no neck, this guy.

862
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, he is very tough and ian. To answer

863
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 4: your question, he does have a better resume than Gunnard Nelson.

864
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: You're talking about a gee and NOGI world champion. Gilbert

865
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: has been really crushing the wrestling training down in South Florida.

866
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: He's very confident right now, and you know, training with

867
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: the current Welterway champ that is certainly going to help.

868
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: And I think he's got a lot more momentum right now.

869
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 4: And Gunny, as good as he is on the ground,

870
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: he's got to get on top. He's got to get

871
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: on top, and I don't know if he's gonna win

872
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: this takedown battle here against Gilbert.

873
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough if Gilbert gets on top.

874
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: Gunny's not exactly known for his guard so it's gonna

875
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: come down who wins the takedown game. I think Gilbert's

876
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 4: gonna have it there. I think Gunny is a decent striker,

877
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 4: but he doesn't throw enough volume for me to say

878
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 4: that he's gonna be effective against someone like Gilbert Burns.

879
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: So I like Gilbert Burns here as well. You know,

880
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: I'd love to go the other way of Ian Parker,

881
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: but just can't.

882
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: And I wonder if Gilbert Burns has come out and

883
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: said anything definitive about whether or not he's going to

884
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 6: go back to fifty five, because you're right, Kenny about

885
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 6: that whole milk Carton thing, right, And from what I've heard, yeah,

886
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 6: so yeah, And obviously he goes toe to toe with

887
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 6: Kamara Ousman and all those guys in that gym have

888
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 6: drawn a tremendous amount of confidence from not just Ousman

889
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 6: breaking through and winning the title, but they know where

890
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 6: they stand with tomorrow and watching him do that to

891
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 6: Tyron Woodley over five rounds, one of the most dominant

892
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 6: performances in a championship setting ever just gave a guy

893
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 6: like Gilbert Burns all the confidence in the world. Certainly

894
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 6: use that in is UFC welterweight debut. We'll see how

895
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 6: it goes for him this weekend in a big one

896
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 6: against gunn or Nelson. All right, Cole, main event is

897
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: not the fight we just talked about. It's this one.

898
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 6: Mark MADD's taken on Denillo Caterpillar Belle Wardo. I hope

899
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: I'm pronouncing that right. So Madson, if you don't know,

900
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 6: won an Olympic silver medal in greco roan wrestling for

901
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 6: Denmark at the twenty sixteen Olympic Games in Rio. He

902
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 6: is eight to zero as an MMA pro here in

903
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 6: his native country, minus four eighty the favorite making his

904
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 6: debut against Caterpillar bell Wardo, who is plus three fifty

905
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 6: five Ian Parker. We will need the round of the

906
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 6: method of victory. Make a smart kid who wins the

907
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 6: comin event.

908
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: You know, It's just it's weird that they had to

909
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 3: make this the comin event, you know. It's I know

910
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: they want to get Madson going, and this is a

911
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 3: matchup that's kind of said for him. Nothing better than

912
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 3: getting an Olympian in here and to do damage at home.

913
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: I think I think Madson's gonna take this one. I'm

914
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: even gonna say first round, TKO. He's so athletic, you know,

915
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: and this is kind of like one of those coming

916
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: out parties for him, and there's really not a whole

917
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: lot to break down with this one. If Kenny can

918
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: think of anything more than that, by all means, I

919
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: don't see Kenny picking the underdog here, So I'll go

920
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: madthem first round, TKO. I just see the wrestling being

921
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: way too much. You will probably get on top and

922
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: end this thing pretty quickly. It's I am excited. You

923
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 3: know a lot of a lot of these Olympians always

924
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: talk about coming over and getting their shot, and we're

925
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: getting to see another one that's been more recent, which

926
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: is a lot of fun. So I'm gonna go with

927
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Matson here.

928
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 2: Parker's like, why are you even making me pick this fight? Bro?

929
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's more bad. I know Kenny's just

930
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: gonna pick a decision, bro, So let's just move on

931
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: to the event.

932
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: Listen, you look at the you look at the odds.

933
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: Mark Matts in a huge uh favorite here over Danilo Bilardo,

934
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: and yeah, listen to Can Ballardo win potentially, but I

935
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: think Mark Mattson, Yeah, it's gonna be a little bit

936
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 4: too much. I don't know if it's gonna be a

937
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: first round t KO, but this guy definitely has a

938
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 4: lot of power. His wrestling game is gonna be on point.

939
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: The Greco Roman approach in a lot of ways, is

940
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: a safer way of.

941
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: Entering in and getting takedowns.

942
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: You know, doesn't open you up, just things like flying

943
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: knees as much, and you know when you're attacking the

944
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 4: legs and he might try to attack the legs, but

945
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 4: as a Greco Roman specially, that gives you a huge

946
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 4: advantage in the clinch as far as the takedown game goes,

947
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: the knowledge the experience is going to be a lot

948
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: and obviously competing at the Olympic level and getting a

949
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: silver medal, yeah, but God knows what it takes to

950
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: be successful. Mark Badson's gonna take this.

951
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 6: He was out of MMA from twenty fourteen to twenty

952
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 6: eighteen doing the Olympic Wrestling thing. Return January twenty eighteen,

953
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 6: he has since reeled off six straight the Italian South

954
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: Pod Bell Wardo dropped his UFC debut to Joel Alvarez

955
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 6: and Stockholm that was June first, but big opportunity for

956
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 6: both of these fighters getting that comain event slot coming

957
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: up this weekend.

958
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: And I didn't give you a round, Storry. Let's go

959
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: second round, TK, how's that all right?

960
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Round two? Hey?

961
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 6: And how about Ken Flow keeping the fucking scorekeeper on

962
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 6: us too? You know, I got one job basically, I

963
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 6: keep scoring. I appreciate that, all right, main event. Don't

964
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 6: call this a one fight card because I think the

965
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 6: main card is strong. We got a couple fights on

966
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 6: the main car that we didn't even pick that I

967
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 6: think are strong, Nicholas Dalby coming back against Alex Cowboy Olivera.

968
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: But this main event's a good one. Her Manson minus

969
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 6: two forty five Jared cannoneer plus two to oh five

970
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 6: middleweight title eliminator of sorts, I guess, and we will

971
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 6: need the round and the method of victory can flow

972
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 6: both guys with momentum. Of course, her Manson asked for

973
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 6: this main event. He's won four in a row, full

974
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: training camp which he didn't have for the Jaca d

975
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 6: Soza fight. Your thoughts on what is a showcase spot

976
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 6: for her Manson and cannonear here this weekend, Man.

977
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: Both of both of these middleweights really are running hot.

978
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 4: And you know I've underestimated Jack Hermanson before.

979
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I could do it again.

980
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 4: I think Jared Cannoneer is the more effective, the more

981
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 4: more dangerous striker, I should say Hermanson, but but her

982
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: Manson really knows how to mix it all up faint

983
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: his way in work the takedown. I think Cannoneer is

984
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 4: definitely going to be overwhelmed on the ground. Her Manson

985
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: has shown an excellent ground game. I was blown away

986
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: by her Manson against Jocko ray Soza and how effective

987
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 4: he was and how smart he was in that game plan.

988
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 4: I think her Manson gets it done. Round one submission.

989
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 6: Round one submission. Jack her Manson probably get a pretty

990
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 6: good price on her Manson, especially with that round one

991
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 6: prop if you like that. So on the other side,

992
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 6: Ian Parker, we got. Jared Cannonier certainly has as much

993
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 6: momentum in the UFC as he has ever had defeated

994
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva obviously back in Rio de Janeiro in May

995
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 6: of this year. Your thoughts on cannon Eir and what

996
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: type of challenge he might pose to Jack the Joker

997
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: her Manson.

998
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: You know, I I really didn't understand the matchup here,

999
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, I thought after beating Jakra

1000
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: in short notice, there would have been a little bit more.

1001
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: To me, this seems more of an opportunity for Jared

1002
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Kanneer than it is for Jack Manson. I know that

1003
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: might not a little fun key because Jackson made a

1004
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: man spot showcase of scales essentially home field advantage, but

1005
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: I just felt like he kind of deserved better. I

1006
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: didn't think in year's performance because Anderson Silva was mind blowing,

1007
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: you know, I thought that was an excellent opportunity for

1008
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 3: him to go in there and knock out Anderson, and

1009
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: he didn't. I didn't think you did anything overly special

1010
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: that warranted this fight. Jack Ramanson has to go in there, right,

1011
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 3: He does present a challenge obviously very powerful super athletic

1012
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: for the division. But Jack Ramanson has to go in

1013
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: there and finish when he started with this momentum. It's

1014
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: to Kenny's point he took the words out of my

1015
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: mouth boom me away with the Jacquar fight. I in

1016
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: no way, shape or form gave Jack any form of

1017
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: chance in that fight, let alone winning the way he did.

1018
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 3: His ground game was essentially flawless, and I don't see

1019
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: it being any different. I was actually gonna go Jack

1020
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: also round one submission, but Kenny me to the punch.

1021
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: I was really hoping the one time you were gonna

1022
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: go decision. Of course you don't, so you know you're

1023
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 3: really you're really, you're really telling me here ken fluff.

1024
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna play the piggyback game. I'll go second

1025
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: round submission for Jack. I also think his cardio is

1026
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: way better and canny years. I think the partent amount

1027
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: of pressure and pace he's gonna set will be too much,

1028
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: so I like Jack round two submission.

1029
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 6: I'm really excited to see what Jack Hermanson can do

1030
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: if he does win this fight against Jared Cannoneer and

1031
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 6: part of the reason ian that the fight was made

1032
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 6: was just a lack of availability for a lot of

1033
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 6: the elite middleweights. Right, you got two champions who are fighting.

1034
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: Costa Romero was on the books. Gastolm I think might

1035
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 6: have been the guy that Jack Hermanson had targeted, and

1036
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 6: that obviously would have made a lot of sense because

1037
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 6: they're number four versus number five in the world. But

1038
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 6: Jack Hermanson by way that Jacqua day Winn put himself

1039
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 6: on the top five. He prioritized headlining and hey man,

1040
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 6: we're live every week, right so Jared Cannoneer's getting an opportunity.

1041
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: We'll see what he does with it this weekend.

1042
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 6: Ian Parker maximizing the opportunity on the Anakin Flooring podcast

1043
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 6: of Late Buddy. We will talk to you next week

1044
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 6: unless you got anything else for Ken Flow, but may

1045
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 6: Rocky BJJ has been open for like four hours already

1046
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 6: this morning, so unless you got anything really pressing, Kenny

1047
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 6: needs to leave.

1048
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I just talking their hour just to keep Kenny

1049
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: off the mast. I don't know. I'm just going very

1050
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: ray longo wish today. Kenny. What do you want to

1051
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: talk about the weather?

1052
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 7: B Yeah, I'm just talking with you bro.

1053
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. I know he enjoys running his business.

1054
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,360
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1055
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1056
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1057
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1059
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Speaker 6: Boom at Annik Florian Pod at Parker Cage Hero. Thanks buddy,

1060
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 6: We'll talk to you next week. You got it, bro, Lena,

1061
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: and a big one next week. By the way, we're

1062
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 6: right back next Monday, September thirtieth, and that is a

1063
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 6: pay per view week. We will get your prime for

1064
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 6: UFC two forty three, Whitaker versus Ottasania five main card

1065
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Speaker 6: picks coming your way from the Fellas next Monday.

1066
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: With that, thanks to long ago Parker, TJ.

1067
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Speaker 6: DeSantis for Kenvulom John, and thank y'all for listening. Don't

1068
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1069
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1070
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Speaker 6: Ken Flow works holidays for you as well. With that,

1071
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 6: thank y'all for listen for watching. Enjoy the fights this weekend.

1072
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1073
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