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Speaker 1: bug bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't

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Speaker 1: predict anything, Yanni? Do you know? Do you remember? How

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Speaker 1: do we get in our heads that Missouri's turkeys are

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Speaker 1: But partially I don't know all the reasons, but part

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Speaker 1: could see that that might be true, that Missouri's harder

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Speaker 1: in Parker A lot? I don't have to add him up,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that more than a dozen, more

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Speaker 1: or so. But I got a theory on why people

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Speaker 1: say they're the hardest to kill, and that's because at

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Speaker 1: it was a Starker Leopold that was down here working

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Speaker 1: basically the stock that was used to not only repopulate

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Speaker 1: just I just had hadn't slept in one of those

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Speaker 1: But you know, my dad really really appreciates it when

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Speaker 1: good point. You'd be shot madly. Brandon, I'm Brandon Butler,

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Speaker 1: the executive director of the Conservation Federation Missouri. I'm Steve Jones.

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Speaker 1: I'm a board member of the Conservation Federation of Missouri.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and uh and also, you guys are always

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Speaker 1: roost wherever the hell they want to roost. One thing

424
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't like about it, I mean, not just for

425
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: me personally and people that like the turkey hunt. But

426
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, kids in school, you know, you get out

427
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: of school at three o'clock in the afternoon, a lot

428
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: of a lot of guys want to go turkey hunt,

429
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: doing the evening turkey hunt, and they can't. So it

430
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: really hinders getting youths out turkey hunting. Yeah, how's that

431
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: even talking about? Why were oh? Because you yeah, you

432
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: can't say that hunted all day, hunted till one huntil

433
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: one all day in Missouri. Turkey terms in Missouri, Turkey

434
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: terms on all day. But meanwhile, meanwhile Yanni was having

435
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: an entirely different experience. Yes, much different from probably most

436
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: folks in Missouri that morning. I don't know, there's probably

437
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: a few other folks that got got what I got,

438
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: but uh, maybe in some corner of the state where

439
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: was a little bit warmer and the wind wasn't blowing.

440
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, you want me tell my turkey story? Um,

441
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: we we all we took four wheelers up to the

442
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: spot and stopped and then Brandon was like, all right,

443
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: we can go here here He's giving us all the options,

444
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 1: and Steve and I've never set foot there, so I'm like,

445
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: you make the call. So you guys decided to go

446
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: on down the ridge, and you'd kind of pointed me

447
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: towards two different ridges that I should work and be

448
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: listening off of. So I went down one and quickly

449
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: ran into some private property, and so I decided I

450
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: didn't want to be foxing around the edge all morning,

451
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: so I just turned around. It's like tens of thousands

452
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: of acres of Yeah, I could just go the other direction,

453
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: walk from miles, which is how I like it usually.

454
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, so I literally just went over one

455
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: ridge and started walking down a uh what you described

456
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: as a knife ridge. You know it's at times. Steve

457
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: was actually common. Team were back on it today and

458
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: how it's almost like man made feeling because it's so

459
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: steep on either side. It's it's like the Romans made

460
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: of ridge. Did you come up with a real name

461
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: for yet? I called the hour glass when you look

462
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: at the top of map, looks like hour glass. But

463
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna start calling the levy. It's like a

464
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: man made ridge, like super steep pitch. And then someone

465
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: came in and grated off the top. Yeah, you wouldn't

466
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: want to walk down at drunk at night. You fall

467
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: off that thing. It's a long way to the bottom,

468
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: but it's like it almost has like a It's like

469
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: you're walking on a levee. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna dig

470
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: in there. Bet. It's it's all people don't realize. But

471
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: it's like this, uh, it's like this archaeological wonder of

472
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: the world that people didn't realize. But anyhow, Mayans used

473
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: to be turkey hunting. Ah, yeah, I don't get but

474
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: a hundred yards down that ridge and in the wind,

475
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: I can just here what might sound like a gobbler,

476
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: And so I go a little bit that feeling for

477
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: a minute, like people might be thinking one during What

478
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: do you mean it might be a gobbler? Oh it's

479
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: uh yeah, you just the sound is is because that's

480
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: all you're trying at that point. You're not even trying

481
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: to look for a turkey, You're just trying to hear one,

482
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: and so your brain is in that mode the same way.

483
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: It's uh in that mode sometimes when you've been glassing

484
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: for hours and you're you're like, oh no, it wasn't dear.

485
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: You know, you're just like looking through the woods all

486
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: day long, and you start to just make up deer sightings, Well,

487
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: the same thing happens in the morning listening for gobblers.

488
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, maybe maybe could have been, and especially

489
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: in the wind, because you know, there's all kinds of

490
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: noise carrying, and uh so, basically it's just very very

491
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: faint in your double if you're listening for will be

492
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden you'll be with a buddy

493
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: and you both turned to each other because you so

494
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: desperately want to have what you think you might have

495
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: heard verified, And each person has the same feeling. And

496
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: so in the woods you find you often like are

497
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: whipping your head around to look at whoever you're with

498
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: to be like, did he hear that? Because I can't

499
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: tell if I did. Yeah, And then usually what happens

500
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: after that if they both heard it, one guy points

501
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: to the north and they got points to the southeast.

502
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: But so eventually it turns out that it is indeed

503
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: a Turkey goblin, and he's goblin. As I get closer,

504
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: I can hear that he's goblin quite often, and that's

505
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: probably every I don't know, points five to ten seconds,

506
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: and that's what we call hammering, not quite what i'd

507
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: call choking, But he was what they call hammering there

508
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: at the next level. No, that's as good as dudes

509
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: in Georgia to start shooting. And uh, yeah, I could

510
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: tell he was on the ridge across from me. I

511
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: could tell he's below me in elevation, and uh, not

512
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: knowing the country real well, I mean he was on

513
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: the ridge where you guys could locked eyeballs. He was

514
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: like you were on opposing slope, opposing slopes that that

515
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: met in the bottom. Yes, So I decided just to

516
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: bail off the ridge and just take my time and

517
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: work towards the sound that he's making, and uh, just hopefully.

518
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: And the woods are so open that at points I

519
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: could see the other ridge, I could see the ground

520
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: cover on the other ridge, and I was just crossing

521
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: my fingers that I wasn't gonna get busted walking down

522
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: this big, fairly open hillside. So I get to the

523
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: bottom and I figured sometimes when I got towards the bottom,

524
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: he must have flew down around seven am, and um,

525
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard him for five minutes or so, and

526
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: so I hooted and he answered, and he hadn't moved

527
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: too far, maybe just down to his ridge a little bit,

528
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: just because on a morning like that, they're gonna stay

529
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: in the tree longer. Yeah, possibly, I mean I think

530
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: he came down around seven, is my guess, you know.

531
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean he could have been on the ground longer

532
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: and was just and just kept gobbling. Now I know

533
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: that he was by himself. Would you guys agree that

534
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: bird when it's cold and nasty, they stay in the

535
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: trees longer. I agree sometimes they do. For sure, rainy,

536
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: nasty days, I think they stay in the tree longer.

537
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to get uh yeah, sure. And you

538
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: guys have both hunted out West and here, do you

539
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: guys get a feeling that the these birds stay in

540
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: the tree longer? And say, Miriam's I don't have extensive

541
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that I could comment to that.

542
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm the same way. I think. One

543
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: thing that is different than out West though, is, and

544
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: we were talking about this a little bit, is they

545
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: don't always roost in the same areas here. You know,

546
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: just because they roosted in that drainage yesterday, they could

547
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: be you know, quite a ways away. And it seems

548
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: like out west, there's um it's more common for him

549
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: to show up in the same places. So yeah, I

550
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: would I would say a more common, but not like

551
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: fixed you know where I think that it's yeah, it

552
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: feels like more kind of like that. There's like certain

553
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: spots they like and like year in, year out. As

554
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: long as something doesn't happen to that little local population,

555
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: they'll kind of like to use that spot. But when

556
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: you bump them, man, it's not either're gonna they don't.

557
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they feel forced to come back there

558
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: that night. It's like a bell curve. I mean that's

559
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: generally true. But I've got a farm in northern Missouri

560
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: and there is one area there always, I mean of

561
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: the time, there's gonna be at least two gobbler's roosted

562
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: exactly in that same spot every night, the same. Yeah,

563
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: if you're if you're leaning on it at night, well

564
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't bump them that hard, but but

565
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a guaranteed place. Now, I don't

566
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: know that I've ever seen that before other than that

567
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: one location. So it's it's not common. But if they

568
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: find the thing that does everything they want, you know,

569
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they'll have some level of faithfulness to that location.

570
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: And out west where they don't have many choices A

571
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: lot of times, you know you could we'll find it.

572
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah in areas which is not a lot of trees. Alright,

573
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: so young there are there. I was. I crossed the

574
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: bottom the little it was a dry creek bed, and

575
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I climbed up maybe ten yards or so, and uh,

576
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm all kind of a big it's been an oak.

577
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Uh maybe another twenty yards ahead. I'm thinking it would

578
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: be a nice spot to get to because I could

579
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: just start to see kind of up on this the

580
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: ridge it kind of benched out where he was. I

581
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: was thinking I could just start to peek my nose

582
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: up and see on the ridge if I got to there,

583
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: and uh, all my way up there, he gobbles once

584
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: on his own. I'm like, sweet, right, you know, so

585
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: like that's a good sign. Yeah, yeah, it's nice when

586
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: you get a courtesy gobble. That's what I like to

587
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: call those. And you don't have to ask him for

588
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: it with a hood all or it's trike your call.

589
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: He's just like, hey over here, yeah, And uh so

590
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: I make it to that tree and I think he

591
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: actually hammered again, and uh and when I when when

592
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: I heard him. Then I was like, okay, I just

593
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: should just sit down, like I don't need to go

594
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: any farther. This is this is something you and I

595
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: have talked about that there's like a turkey goes from

596
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: being real far a turkey's gobble goes from being kind

597
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: of like you can't really get a grasp of it.

598
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: It's kind of far away in some sort of abstract sense,

599
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: and then you cross like a thin You crossed like

600
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: a thin plane, and all of a sudden, like he's

601
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: right on top of you, do you know, I mean

602
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like you pass into a moment when you are suddenly

603
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: like in his area. It's just the gobble just sounds

604
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: so different. You could be sitting there listening to a

605
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: gobbling like I quite know where he is, and take

606
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: like a depth and also you'd be like, not, I

607
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: know exactly where he is. More. It's like that they

608
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: become at some distance, they become like you. You hear

609
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: that you hear more quality to the sound than you

610
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: otherwise do. Yeah, It's like at one point it's just

611
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: kind of like a blur of a gobbl sound, and

612
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: then you get just a little bit closer and all

613
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you can hear every little uh part

614
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: of that gobble as it kind of breaks, you know,

615
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: it's like something it's like an image coming into focus.

616
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then all of a sudden, your your

617
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: ears can triangulate and go, yeah, he's over there, roughly

618
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: a hundred yards away, you know, and uh yes, So

619
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: I sat down and uh, I got my head net

620
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: on and uh put a diaphragm in and uh I

621
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: gave him I don't know, five or seven not it's

622
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: pretty soft, and it got no response. You know, it's

623
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: calling behind my hand, trying to throw my call a

624
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: little bit because it was a perfect spot because he

625
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: had to come to about probably sixty to eat even

626
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 1: see where I was, and then there was a role

627
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: between he and I, and then right behind me I

628
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: had another little little spot. So you can imagine when

629
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: he came over looking, even if he didn't see a hand,

630
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: there's spots with that HND that was calling to him,

631
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: could have been right. So I felt I felt confident

632
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: in this spot, and um so he didn't answer. I

633
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: waited a little bit and then I just up my

634
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: volume a little bit and just gave him three, three

635
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: or four louder notes. Yeah, yeah, and he uh he

636
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: he just jumped right over it. And um and you

637
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: told me that at that point you could hear his feathers. Yeah,

638
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: I could hear his feathers kind of shake a little

639
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: bit as he gobbled um. So you know at that point, yeah,

640
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't know se yards And it didn't take long,

641
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of minutes, and I could see his

642
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: head coming and he came right to that edgeway it was,

643
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: and I could see the whole body out of range

644
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: and there he hung up for a little ways. But

645
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: from that range, I already see a blue and white head.

646
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: And correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been I

647
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: was taught that when you see a blue and white head,

648
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of in love and you kind of you know,

649
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: you're the deck is stacked in your favor at that point, right,

650
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: much better than seeing a redhead. Oh yeah, man, yeah,

651
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: And uh were you hearing him? You know at that point,

652
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: at that point, he hadn't um strutted, end, I hadn't

653
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: heard him drum er spit. But uh so he's still

654
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: there for like a minute or so, it seemed like

655
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: five is probably a minute, and uh then you just

656
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: started working towards me, and that's when it started. So

657
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: he went into full strut, did some drama and spitting.

658
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: He leaves strut a couple of STI you got a

659
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: nice spit drum, can you do it for us? I

660
00:37:54,560 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: like this far from right, and man, it is a sound.

661
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before, but it's a sound that

662
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: you have to tell yourself that you're hearing it. I mean,

663
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: when he's right on top of you're sure, you're like

664
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: everybody can hear it, but your ears hearing better because

665
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: there's been a number of times you've heard him drumming

666
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: when I can't hear him drumming, Like it's like it's

667
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: a decibel or something that yeah, between somehow between your

668
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: age and my age goes away. Well, it's like those

669
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: suiti grouse, you know that we chased around and I've

670
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: got um dusky grouse in my yard Montana, and I

671
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: can get five fam maybe more like seven or eight

672
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: feet from this dusky grouse, and I can hear him.

673
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: You can see his yellow patches vibrating as he does this.

674
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: You can hold your phone out and record a video

675
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: and play it back at full volume, and the microphone

676
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: on the phone cannot pick it up. It's a ghost sound. Yeah,

677
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: it's crazy. People that film ghosts and whatnot reports similar problems. Yeah,

678
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: so that's what a turkey, Um the drumming is because

679
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: really at a distance, you rarely actually hear the spit

680
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: right you more here the yeah you know that and

681
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: that can work again, that can work the other way

682
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: to sitting there for hours and going what is he drummond? Here?

683
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: And drummond? I think I hear drummond? Which way is that?

684
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: Is it behind me? Is it on top of me?

685
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: It's it's super hard to course, you know. It's just

686
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: like it's all encompassing. When it's close to all around you,

687
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a neat sound. You feel it more

688
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: than here. And what he's doing is taking his wings

689
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: and like beat his wings on his body. And they'll

690
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: go out and beat their wings on the ground and

691
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: wear off their primaries. Is that the primary? Yeah? Yeah,

692
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: like a turkey in the spring, you'll wear the ends

693
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: off them. Yeah. It would be a nice straight line. Um. Yes,

694
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: so I got the show. That's what you know. I

695
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: call it. Man. He gobbled maybe three or four times

696
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: as he came in and you know, went in and

697
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: out of strut the same thing three or four or

698
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: five times, and uh, it wasn't very long, and the

699
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: whole thing happened in five minute. I killed him at

700
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: seven fifteen, so I kind of had a window once

701
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: at maybe thirty five yards. And at the time, I

702
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: was like very confident because I'm like, yeah, look at

703
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: that blue and white head. And then as soon as

704
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: he gets into some thick shit again and behind the tree,

705
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, you dumbass, You're dumbass. You should have shot

706
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: because that it seems like I had seen him before.

707
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: They get behind that tree, and you're thinking he's gonna

708
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: just pop out the other side at thirty and instead

709
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: the next time he pops out, he's at sixty again,

710
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, he decided to go away from you.

711
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: But anyways, this time it worked just how you want,

712
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: and he pops out and he came to twenty yards

713
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: or so, and at that moment, I was sitting against

714
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: the tree. We're just blind calling. I'll sit in there,

715
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: chatter my teeth against a tree and also bouch and

716
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yanni shot that pit bull because there was

717
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: like no other reason that I could imagine that he

718
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: would be shooting his gun off. I'm like, either Yanna

719
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: got shot by the guy down the landowner guy, or

720
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: the pit bull attacked him and he had to defend

721
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: himself from the pit ball. And I was kind of magic, like,

722
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: what's sort of you know, investigation like how does one

723
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: when you shoot a dog? And self defense? Like what happens?

724
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: You know? Nothing? I think in that case, you just

725
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: let him lay. So we we proceeded to wander all around,

726
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: but we ended up right there. Happened to Yeah, So

727
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: we made a plan to meet Joannie at ten, and

728
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: we just made a big long loop heading for that

729
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: spot because in previous years it's a really good spot.

730
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: And we ended up down there and we had to

731
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: split in time to meet him at ten. When we

732
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: got up there, I'll tell you it was pretty redeeming.

733
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: When you had that bird and we're doing a thing

734
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: called blind like because we're not hearing anything and it's

735
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: not it's just so windy. Then you're kind of like,

736
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna give up on the whole idea

737
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna hear gobbler. And we would just go

738
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: to likely areas little bottoms where you're kind of out

739
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: of the wind. You can get out of the wind

740
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: down the little bottoms, hollers, hollows and um just call

741
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 1: give it twenty minutes because that can work. That can work.

742
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: They come in silent a lot. Yeah, you'll lay down,

743
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: And the thing is you gotta get like real comfortable

744
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: because you don't know what direction they're gonna come from.

745
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: And you can't be fidgeting around because you could be

746
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: he could be behind you. Never make a noise and

747
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: you fige it around, he's gonna leave and you never

748
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: knew he was there. So what if I'm doing that

749
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: sort of thing, I like to try to get where

750
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm almost like and I don't even think it's a

751
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: bad thing to fall asleep for a minute blind calling,

752
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: because you want to be that comfortable and just call

753
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: every whatever ten minutes. Last year blind calling, I woke up.

754
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I woke up to see a turkey coming. You know,

755
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: you get that kind of fitful sleep and I was like,

756
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, redhead coming through the coming through the brush,

757
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, and heat that bird came in never made

758
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: a peep. Yeah, so uh yeah that was in Wisconsin

759
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, we're blind called and then really

760
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: nothing happened. That was the end of the day. We

761
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: went out that night and tried to do what's called

762
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: roost in them, which is now and then like turkey

763
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: gobbling just gets generally throughout the day, it just gets worse.

764
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Like in the world, calls per second just drop to

765
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: where by about ten in the morning unless it's really

766
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: good's not many calls. Six in the mornings, all kinds

767
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,479
Speaker 1: of calls, and it just gets like worse and worse

768
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: and worse and worse and worse. But in some locales

769
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: you'll have a spike at night where there's something about

770
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: them going back to the roost. Do you understand us

771
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: at all from a from a never they never talked

772
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: about this in school, No, I'm sure they did. I

773
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention towards night. As they're going back to

774
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: their roost for whatever reason, they sometimes will gobble some more,

775
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: and then they like to Oftentimes they like to gobble

776
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: once they get up in the roost. You know a

777
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: lot of times they'll the turkeyo gobble and of course

778
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: the hands come to him like you explained before, and

779
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: they'll do their thing. They'll kind of hang out and

780
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: breed and knock around together, and you know on up

781
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: in the morning, the hands will go off and kind

782
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: of do their own thing, you know, and they're starting

783
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: to look for a place to nest or wanting to

784
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 1: feed or whatever. And and often times they leave the gobbler.

785
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: And so sometimes there's there's a spike or you can

786
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: at them to a gobble midday. Then again in the

787
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: afternoon when they're starting to gather back up, the hands

788
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 1: are kind of backing around. He's feeling his oats again.

789
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: You know, he may he may get a gobbler too.

790
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: And you know, oftentimes it's a shock gobble that that

791
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: happens at night as supposed to them just goblin. They

792
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: do some. But you go out and try to shock

793
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: gobblm um, I think you get more responsores than them

794
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: just naturally gobbling, gobbling a whole lot. Maybe the hunting miriams,

795
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: which is, you know, the people don't really accept the

796
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: idea of subspecies of turkeys, but like it's like varieties

797
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: of turkeys, right, there's there's five now what was to say,

798
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: there's five subspecies of turkeys in in in the US. Um,

799
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: the mirrors is a very vocal one. We used to

800
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: drive around sometimes hunting mirrors. We would drive around from

801
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: spot spot spot on on logging roads or whatever and stop,

802
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: turn the car off, honk to horn to find out

803
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: where you're gonna in the morning. But we didn't. We

804
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: haven't heard. No one in our group has heard a

805
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: turkey gobble passed I think nine am on this trip,

806
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: going out two nights in a row, spreading all out

807
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: across the ridges, blowing crow calls, kyo, yips, screech, owls,

808
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: what the hell kind of owl? Bart owl? Not peep,

809
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: crickets not even Yeah, I didn't try a cricket call,

810
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, you mean like crickets, like silence. So then

811
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden we wake up the next morning

812
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and you just knew there's gonna be goblin. Yeah, because

813
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: the weather switched. Yeah, we're brushing our teeth in the

814
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: driveway and uh heard one gobble in the distance the

815
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: wind no wind. Yeah, oh you hoot owl are called

816
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I'll call that him, and that's what at him. Yeah,

817
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: you're stepped out of the porch of your cabin. What

818
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: do you call this thing? Tripped with acres? But when

819
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: you call it a cabin, yeah, so what i'd go

820
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: into my blank. I told my wife, it's a cabin.

821
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: It got a little big for cabin status. So what

822
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: do you say you're going to when you go here

823
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: the cabin? We say our shack. Yeah, because my wife

824
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: says it does it's not a cabin. That's that's called

825
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 1: a shack. Yeah. Yanni had his electric toothbrush going. We

826
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: had to turn that off and then we could because

827
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: it was, like you said, I thought I heard one

828
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: turned toothbrush off. Did it again? Your toothbrush was impeding

829
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: the ability to listen to gobbles. It was. That's the

830
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: only good argument I've ever heard against letcher toothbrushes. But

831
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: so at the back up, we met up with Yanni

832
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: and we tried all these different spots and I even

833
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: took you down on a gravel bar and I know

834
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: you guys are thinking, there's no way there's that's the

835
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: day we cut that track. Yeah, so that was like

836
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: the highlight of our day. We closed out our day

837
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: on a track. Do We just were like, well, here's

838
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: a track that's right, and we just sat and called

839
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: the track. I even took a picture of the track

840
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: so we'd have some semblance of a trophy from the day.

841
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, from the driveway at who dialed and it

842
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: went and uh Parker and I deployed and they ended

843
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: up being four gobblers, probably three gobblers in a jake,

844
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: and uh Parker called one across the river. Talking about

845
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: that for a minute, Well, I think with turkey hunting,

846
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: you're either a hero or zero. It's like you're never

847
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: there's no like mid grade turkey guys. You know, it's

848
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: not like, well I saw, I could have shot a

849
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: couple of gobblers, but he wasn't nice and I had

850
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: a great experience. But like you try as hard as

851
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: you can every time, or I do when I'm turkey hunting. So, uh,

852
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: we got on this turkey. They were goblin goblin acrossing

853
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: hundreds of yards away, right, Well, we slipped up on

854
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: them and we got I don't know, across the river

855
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: and we were just on the other side of the

856
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: river from them. Yeah, they were up they're up on

857
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: a bluff and we're down on the gravel bar. But

858
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: they're not hundreds of yards away the other side of

859
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: the river, the other side of the river above us.

860
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario. If you're thinking about turkey hunting, you

861
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: want to get you know the same level or above them,

862
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: preferably the same side of the river. You know, those

863
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: types of things. Um, so everything working against us. I

864
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: think we're just so happy to hear Turkey's goblin um

865
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: that it didn't matter. You know, we were right after him,

866
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: so um yeah, they got fired up and they were

867
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: in the roost and we called at him a little

868
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: bit and we got one sure enough. You know, I

869
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: thought he wanted to play ball, and you know, we

870
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of brandon and I kind of shut up quick calling,

871
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, man, things zings across the

872
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: river and lands roost tree left his buddies behind. Arms are, yeah,

873
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: the whole it's on a gravel bar just came sailing. Man.

874
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. You could see his big beard. I said,

875
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: here he comes, yeah, here he calls that like yeah,

876
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: here he comes coming in to take a pass shot

877
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: like geese. Yeah. So he sailed in human and he

878
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: landed on a gravel bar. Made me think that like,

879
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: either there's something wrong with him or it was the

880
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: most masterful, beautiful bit of calling. Something's wrong with the turkey,

881
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: trust me, because like I just don't think of him

882
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: being like I'm gonna fly out of this tree, cross

883
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: the river and land on some rocks. He did, and

884
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: then he probably landed eighty to a hundred yards down

885
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: from us, worked right up and there's a lot of

886
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: little scrub brush down there, and we were tucked into

887
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: some small cedars, and there's another one about twenty yards away,

888
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: and he just took up shop right there on the

889
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: other side of that seedar. So I mean, how far

890
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: thirty yard? No more than thirty year, I would say,

891
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: twe And he's just drumming and drumming goblin, and it's

892
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: going on for it's going on for twenty minutes. Yeah,

893
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's like it just

894
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: it was NonStop action for twenty minutes and then it stopped.

895
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: And the whole time, I'm thinking, Uh, Brandon and I

896
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: were when the turkey sailed across the river. H I said,

897
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: turn and face him, Turn and face him. So we

898
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: were set apart from each other, so we're the way

899
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: we're sitting against the trees, were kind of facing each other, right,

900
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: And so the turkeys behind me at this point just

901
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: tomahawk goblin all of me, you know, and drum you know,

902
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Brandon and I'm like, I'm just

903
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: like shoot him, man, you know, what are we doing here?

904
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was right behind the bush. But I

905
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: never saw him that whole time, never caught a glimpse

906
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: of them that whole time. Yeah, it's so exciting. So

907
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: then he goes silent, and then he made it to

908
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: this field, which is private property that we can't hunt on.

909
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: So he's got to be in the low water on

910
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: the gravel bar and are in the high water area

911
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: of the gravel bar. So he gets into this field

912
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: and then he starts gobbling again, and man, it was beautiful.

913
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: He's full strut. Every time he gobbles. You can see

914
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: his breath coming out. Detail. Man, man, it was beautiful.

915
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: If I was a painter, I would paint a turkey

916
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: gobblin with his breath coming out as So at that point,

917
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: he's probably sixty yards away and ten yards onto private

918
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking he's just gonna split across that field.

919
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: But there's one lane like runs back down. It's like,

920
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: whoever that landowner is, It's there, like lane to get

921
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: down to the river, but it's cutting onto public land.

922
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: And when he got to that lane, I said, give

923
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: it to him, and Parker hit him, and he turned

924
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: and came He went down this swelle, yeah, him with

925
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: a call, and he turned and came back. And now

926
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: he's back in the game, goes down this swale, and

927
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm afraid that I didn't see him cut through the

928
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: woods the first time. So I'm thinking he must have

929
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: cut through that swale, and now he's gonna take that

930
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: same route back to the gravel bar and end up

931
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: behind that bush again. But this time he made a

932
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: fatal mistake of going up on top of the lip

933
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: of that swale. And that was the end of it.

934
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: From my perspective, Like I said, we were facing each

935
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: other right um, and so I could I was watching

936
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: the hunt through the perspective of watching Brandon and him,

937
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: uh seeing the turkey, and I can see him looking

938
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, slight movements of his head

939
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: and his eyes and yeah, and he's going, he's going,

940
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: He's coming, He's gonna come. And I see him his

941
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: his breath starts getting faster, you know, you know the

942
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: excitement of the turkey when he realized as he's coming,

943
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: and he disappears behind the swell, like you said, and

944
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: you see mild panic said into his into his face,

945
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, oh no, I don't see him now.

946
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: And as soon as he comes up out of the

947
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: swell he's talking about with that white head, I see

948
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: as his eyes get big and then, you know, cheek

949
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: down on the stock. And that was it. When you

950
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: when you when you hold because you're shooting a skull,

951
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: which I've never done. I was just shooting elevated a

952
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 1: beading though, tell you call it like a vented rib.

953
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: He's basically looked down the damn barrel, right, But I've

954
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: always been tempted with um messing around with various apparati

955
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: even though I don't have you know, I don't know.

956
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't take long shots or something, cause I've never

957
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: I've never whipped a shot at one. But when when

958
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: you're aiming at where are you holding on him? Right

959
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: at the base of his neck? There's a cross hair

960
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: and there, and I hold right on the base of

961
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: his neck. And you know, I was on the media

962
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: hunt and out with Dakota and one of the sponsors

963
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: had those scopes, and I had that gun for many years,

964
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: and I, you know, had to put it on there

965
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: to appease the people paying for the trip. I've never

966
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: taken it off in seven or eight years. It just

967
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: works for me. Um. I've got one of those red

968
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: dots on my daughter's turkey gun and she likes it.

969
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: But I mean when I shot that bird, I panicked

970
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: for a second because I didn't see anything. And when

971
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: when I finally realized, it just it never even flopped.

972
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: It just went down that you know. Normally when you

973
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: shoot one, they flop around, and I couldn't see it.

974
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just where to go. And then

975
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: I looked and there it laid kind of on the

976
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: back side of the base of the neck. Like were

977
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: you saying where there's feathers start or lower than that,

978
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: because see I I aim were like the head and

979
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: the neck joint at that's just below the skull. You're

980
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 1: probably sailing some pellets over the top of his head.

981
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: I kind of depending on how far away for the

982
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: pace of the neck, about where the feathers start. That's

983
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: where I put the crosshairs. And I know, you know,

984
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: my I got a real tight choke and at thirty

985
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: yards it's about the size of a skillet, you know,

986
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: And if I put it there, I'm not gonna miss him.

987
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: Probably not gonna put too many low, and it seems

988
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: to work when they're far out. I'll aim a little

989
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: higher just because the drop. But I kind of, you know,

990
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm hold I hold because I've

991
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of guys say that, like dudes that

992
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: miss turkeys are shooting over the top of them because

993
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: they're even for the head. Yeah, and they got a

994
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: tight pattern. It just feels people feel that if you

995
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: were low, he'd be dead because you got him the neck,

996
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: or you at least would have fluffed him. So I

997
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: kind of hold down a little ways. Remember like some

998
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 1: some Turkey guy saying that the holds on the wattles,

999
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: it was low on the neck. So I started kind

1000
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: of doing that kind of isn't the wattles and where

1001
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: the base's neck, that's not the same down at the

1002
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: where the feathers start feather. Yeah, they kind of hang

1003
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: a little. They kind of hang like a beer belly.

1004
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: What about over that waistline of his feathers. Yeah, Well,

1005
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: now that I was telling you, I put a new

1006
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: bead on my gun, and the beads a little bit

1007
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: taller than the beat I hat on there. And so

1008
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: if you understand how that works, and you're aiming, it

1009
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: causes you to put the the higher bead causes you

1010
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: to uh. If you bring that beat down, it caused

1011
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 1: you to shoot a little bit lower and so um.

1012
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would just aim halfway between his wattles

1013
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: and his head. But I mean at thirty yards. I

1014
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: don't know that if I'm really getting that precise. But

1015
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: the one thing I just make sure of is that

1016
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: I can see his head over my site. I don't

1017
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: ever cover up his head doing it. I'm not thinking

1018
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: about how when I'm trying to do shot placement, shooting

1019
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: like a big game animal, I'm not like doing that level.

1020
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: But I am thinking. When I have the thought, I

1021
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: am thinking, don't shoot over his head. And I especially

1022
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: get nervou about it when they're super close, because then

1023
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: you gotta patterned size of a baseball. It's gotta be on. Yeah, Rose,

1024
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna run off. That's not what you're out there for.

1025
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, while this whole gravel bar flying out miracle

1026
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: turkey thing is going on, we go out, we go

1027
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: back up and early remember how y honest staying he

1028
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to go down and flirt with this private

1029
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: property boundary. We get back up in that area and

1030
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: sure enough bird gobbling down on that zone. And we

1031
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: don't want to do that because then we feel he's

1032
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna pitch out of his roost land on the other

1033
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: side of the painted trees, and then you just gotta

1034
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: sit there, right, We're gonna sit there, not very confident

1035
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: in our miracle calling abilities and whether he will we

1036
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: call him across the kind of stuff. Man, I hate

1037
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So we just like, never mind

1038
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: that turkey, but grudgingly, yeah, continued on down the ridge.

1039
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: Go down the ridge here another turkey and kind of

1040
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: like stay a little bit like maybe, but he's very

1041
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: far off where it's like hard to even begin thinking

1042
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: about how you're gonna go about it. So we're kind

1043
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: of like, maybe then go little ways and look down

1044
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: into this kind of little hell hole, and then we're like,

1045
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: that's our turkey. There's several of them, but one of

1046
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: them is like, that's the turkey. So we start nosing

1047
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: down into the holler. Is it a cultural appropriation for

1048
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: me to say holler? It works? So it's not horrible, Okay, Um,

1049
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: I'd like to be sensitive to that kind of stuff.

1050
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: Because I can switch to holloway. Uh, We've been calling

1051
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: creek beds, work our way down to work our way

1052
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: down towards the creek bed, and pretty soon we get

1053
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: where we enter into that we crossed that plane where

1054
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're like in his zone and

1055
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: we get set up and I'm thinking, damn it, we

1056
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: got too close. Get set up and call and call

1057
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: up a hand who comes up just basically bitching at us,

1058
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: like they get it does seem like that. I hope

1059
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: one of you guys can enlighten me. But yeah, she

1060
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: just comes in there. I thought it was like it

1061
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: was like a happy putt, but now I'm thinking it's

1062
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: just she's just clucking. But she I guess she's just

1063
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: clucking and looking and trying to make that connection. They

1064
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: got a thing they do. They got a thing they

1065
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: do where it varies, but like when you're calling a gubbler,

1066
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: like he's kind of coming at a handle come up

1067
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: and kind of cut these half circles around you far

1068
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: out like she you know, where they don't. They don't

1069
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: come barreling in. They're very like what's going on? What's

1070
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: going on? They tend to be like very vocal. We

1071
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: had the same thing this morning. Yeah, but I don't

1072
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: think we ever saw the whole body of that hand.

1073
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: She got to where she could look up onto the

1074
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: bench that we had sat up on a little bench

1075
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: ridge and looked at look. Look, look, look, walked back

1076
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: and forth a little bit. We could see her head

1077
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: and neck, and then she just went back over to this,

1078
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, swale a little bit and shut up. Yeah,

1079
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: point to the point. Yeah. So she she's all piste

1080
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: and goes and dips off the side of the hill.

1081
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: I just want you can only shoot bearded You're supposed

1082
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: to shoot males. But the way they define it as

1083
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, a bearded turkey because they have a weird

1084
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: beard feather coming out of her chest. Uh. She goes off.

1085
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: We kind of forget about her, and a while later

1086
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: we realized that the gobbler we were calling to it

1087
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 1: drifted off in the other direction as they're wanting to do,

1088
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: and we're staying up to go chase him, and she

1089
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: takes off flying from that same spot. So she was

1090
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: all piste, went back out of sight and then just

1091
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: decided to mellow out and hang out. Chase. We chase

1092
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: that gobbler and kind of set up on him, chase him,

1093
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: set up on him. And then you hear off to

1094
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: the right, we hear a hand calling it ain't a hen.

1095
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: Off to the left, I hear owl hooting at getting

1096
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 1: a little late in the morning. There's other people are

1097
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: getting other people are growing aware of our holler right

1098
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: like people are like, there's a holler that has a

1099
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: lot of goblin emanating from it, and people are zero.

1100
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: Other dudes, there's zero. That's like public land hunting man.

1101
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: Other dudes are zeroing in on this thing. Yanni. I

1102
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: didn't hear this, Yanni. Here's two car doors and he

1103
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: thinks that those guys left. Yeah, I feel like the

1104
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: dudes that are left took off. But the right. As

1105
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: we're working this turkey, can hear this guy on the

1106
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: right yep yep, yep, yep, yep, yeap. Like coming down

1107
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: and the closest we get to the gobbler post roost,

1108
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: we get clothes for down in the bottom. It looks beautiful.

1109
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: Put out a decoy. He hammers like probably the closest

1110
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: gobble we got. I'm very excited. And then he gobbles

1111
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: again and he's the same spot. I'm more excited that

1112
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: he gobbles again and just get that sinking feeling where

1113
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: it's just like unmistakably he's farther away now, which is

1114
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: like usually what happens in turkey hunting. And I think

1115
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: he gobbled again. It's like, damn it, that was farther

1116
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: away for sure. And then about not very far away. No,

1117
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: I think I heard the turkey flop. It was that close,

1118
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: you know. But jumped out of my skin. And that

1119
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: dude that coming on from the right just out turkey

1120
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: hunted us, out hunted us. Wasn't his first trip to

1121
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: the holler? Yeah he might, Yeah, he might have been

1122
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: in there knowing that those turkeys like to leave there

1123
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: going up that branch or whatever. Yeah, And then we

1124
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: wanted all over Holy Helm. Then prece was one o'clock

1125
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: and we came home. So meanwhile we did a tour.

1126
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: Parker and I regroup after bringing my bird back to

1127
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: the cabin, and we hear one goblin in the same

1128
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: holler where Yanni killed his bird. Then we go up

1129
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: to the we go up to the meeting spot or

1130
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: the calling location, and we thought you guys had deployed

1131
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: down after that bird. Im like I used that term deployed.

1132
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: We stayed out of there like wandered over made his

1133
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: way over. We were on a mission. So we deployed

1134
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: down into that, deployed into the hollers. He tells me

1135
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: when to deploy. But what a difference a day makes.

1136
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: All of my spots redeemed themselves. All the ridges, I said,

1137
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: would have birds on them, head birds on them, and

1138
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: all the holler's had birds, even killed one off the

1139
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: gravel bar. So it's unbelievable how they turned on overnight,

1140
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: because like in that like they're gonna breed, and like

1141
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: in understanding all these cycles in the natural world, like

1142
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: fish spawning and all that, there's sort of like a

1143
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: photo there'll be a photo period window, right, there's like

1144
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: a length of day that is appropriate, and that window

1145
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: depending on what thing we're talking about, what natural phenomenon

1146
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about, Um, that photo period window, that length

1147
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: of day window could be wider, skinny. But within that

1148
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: there's all the other all the variables which kind of

1149
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: turn it on and turn it off. Right Like you think,

1150
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: like steelhead are gonna spawn, Um, it's gonna happen, like

1151
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: never happens before this date, never happens later in that day.

1152
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: But within that window of time, there's myriad things that

1153
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: need to occur, water level, water temperature, all this kind

1154
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: of stuff, and it's gonna happen. They're gonna pick their moments.

1155
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: And it's like funny with these turkeys that on Monday

1156
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: it seems to be well, except for Yannis, it just

1157
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: seems to be they're not doing that. Today. The next

1158
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: day that slight change, warmer, no air, and they're just

1159
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: back to it. And I think yesterday was better than today,

1160
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: even though the conditions today were almost the same as yesterday.

1161
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: It's like they were just shocked into getting going and

1162
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: today they settled back down a little bit. They gobbled early,

1163
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: but they stopped earlier today too. So then yesterday, did

1164
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: you guys work more birds? We definitely went for a

1165
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: long walk. We we had several minor setbacks yesterday, to

1166
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: say the least. I don't know if we ever worked

1167
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: a bird. We chased a couple others. I don't know that.

1168
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever worked in another way.

1169
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: I had to find working a bird where you're in

1170
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: the game. We we never got back in the game.

1171
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: An amazing thing, amazing thing that happened yesterday, though, we

1172
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: jumped a covey of a quail on the public land

1173
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: way in the back, and that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen,

1174
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: not in the old days. In the old days, that's

1175
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: what people did down I mean, we have so much

1176
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: work going on on quail restoration, but in this part

1177
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: of the country especially, I had no idea that this

1178
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: was a quail country. It's really not. And that was

1179
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: historically it was. Yeah, when you had more small farms

1180
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: or what. I really don't know what the change has

1181
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: been over. I mean, I think you could be really

1182
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: rich if you figured out what the problem is. I

1183
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: walk around out there, the last thing on my min

1184
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: would be that I'll jump a quil. I jumped quil.

1185
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: To take me a minute to realize it was a quail,

1186
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: because I'd be so not expecting it to happen, really surprised.

1187
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: We were deep in the force. It was on a

1188
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: power line where we jumped in some brush and there

1189
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: was it looked like the right slot if we were

1190
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: fifty or sixty miles north of here. But it was cool,

1191
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: really cool for sure. How many quail were in the covey?

1192
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: What do you think park of ten, yeah, ten of tilve.

1193
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: It was a nice little covey. Let me tell you

1194
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: quail story real quick. Let's see. Let's here's quail spitting

1195
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: drop many many years ago, um, fourteen or fifteen years ago.

1196
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: My girlfriend at the time was friends with someone who

1197
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: was a private chef on a yacht. And this friend

1198
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: says to my girlfriend at the time, Hey, do you

1199
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: guys want a bag of quail cleaned up quail? And

1200
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: uh she said, sure, she goes. You know who gave

1201
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: me this quail? George H. W. Bush. M the owner

1202
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: of the yachts friends with George h. W. Bush, And

1203
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: he came out on the yacht and brought a sack

1204
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: of quail that he had shot. So I was like, well,

1205
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: I was pretty interesting. So I saved him for a

1206
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: long time. I think I'd save him for some kind

1207
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: of special occastion. When I did bust him out, not

1208
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: one of these quail had not a pellet in any

1209
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: of these quail ahead shot. No, here's what someone told.

1210
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: Someone told me at these high flute and quail places,

1211
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: they're raising them in pens anyway. And he said, when

1212
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: you go to these high flute and quail shooting facilities.

1213
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: You go out and shoot quail, but then they're all

1214
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: shot up and the dog has been chewing on them.

1215
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: Who wants to eat that? Right? The thinking goes So

1216
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: when you leave, they just go into the pen and

1217
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 1: get you fifteen nice new ones that aren't molested by shot.

1218
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 1: And that's what you bring home that I have. No.

1219
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: I had never backed up or verified any of this,

1220
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: but this is just what was told to me. Do

1221
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: you know who Ray Scott is the bass master? No?

1222
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: Remember when bass fishing tournaments started? You know who Ray

1223
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: Scott from Michigan? You ever heard of Kevin Van Dan

1224
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: He's our next Parker. You gotta know who Ray Scott

1225
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: is the bass master? Well States yet Alabama? Yeah, yeah,

1226
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: he started, He basically started professional bass fishing tournaments. But

1227
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: I went down and stayed with him one time and

1228
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: I got to my room and it had a plaque

1229
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: on the bed that said President George H. W. Bush

1230
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: slept here. So that's my George Bush story. He don't

1231
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: need a lot of those bass I'm not guessing. I

1232
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 1: don't think. So we got a body. He's a bass

1233
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: he's a recreation what do you call like amateur tournament

1234
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 1: bass guy? Caught. Lord knows how many bass in his life.

1235
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: One day I'm talking to him in his whole life,

1236
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: he'd never eat. We served him his first bass ever,

1237
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: a tournament fisherman, certain his first bass ever. He liked it.

1238
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: Did not want his wife to find out about it,

1239
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: because she'd be wondered what in the world he's been

1240
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: out there doing all this time. We have a small

1241
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: mouth sandwich tastes that we have to call bass out

1242
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: of our pond. If you don't take so many little

1243
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: ones out, the big thing they get stunted, grows because

1244
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: the ponds on't even support so many ounces of fish,

1245
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take the form of larger big So

1246
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: we we a lot of large mouth bass. So back

1247
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: to Turkey on. That's my story about h W bush Uh.

1248
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: Someday I'm gonna work up I'd like to work up

1249
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 1: a real good punchline for it, which might take some time.

1250
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: But so you guys wrap her up. One o'clock. Done deal.

1251
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm. This morning, step out on the porch. Presumably

1252
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: the eagle was not brushing, because yeah, we got we

1253
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: got wet. Yeah, I took Jones out on the on

1254
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: the porch this time he's a he's a world champion

1255
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: hood al collar. That wasn't impress ripping out your owl? Sure,

1256
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: I won't make this thing melt if I do. I

1257
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: think you might do is maybe well what do you

1258
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: think just just just take your mic away from your face? Yeah? Perfect,

1259
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: rip out an owl hoot? Oh my goodness, the end?

1260
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: How did you work that out practice? Can you just

1261
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: do the end for me again? Yeah? That's nice, man,

1262
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: It's like you swallow the owl um. So I put

1263
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: him to work on the on the porch this morning,

1264
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that those other three would be back,

1265
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: and at least two of them were, and he got

1266
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: them fired up from the porch. And this time Parker

1267
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: and I got on the right side of the river

1268
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: and I'll let him take it from there. We got

1269
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: on the right side of the river, slipped in there

1270
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: still on the roost um. Right as in right versus wrong,

1271
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: not left and right. No, he's got it right both ways.

1272
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 1: He means right proper. But he was on river right

1273
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: both got it you know, like just a quick thing

1274
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: for listeners. River. When you say river right, river left,

1275
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: it's from the perspective of someone looking downstream, so you

1276
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: could be facing upstream and when you say river right,

1277
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 1: it's on your left, correct, like you're floating down the stream. Yeah,

1278
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: the river right, the correct side, which happened to be

1279
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: that used had to be part of my safety speech

1280
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: every day when you're fishing. So the proper side of

1281
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: the river, which happened to be river right. Correct. We

1282
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: slept up under the cover of darkness. Um, selected two trees.

1283
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: Tried to get a tree that's wider than a back

1284
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: to break up. Mind. I do, I do think about that,

1285
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: um a lot. I know some fellers that have a

1286
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 1: hard time finding a tree. Yeah, on the Redwoods. We

1287
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: found one today. Um, well, I found one. Brandons was.

1288
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: I'll get to that later. This is a little a

1289
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: little skinnier than we liked it. He blames me. I

1290
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: blame him for this what happened. I blame the turke. Yeah.

1291
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: At any rate, they're goblin goblin nice and you know

1292
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: they they're goblins so much that I'm trying to pick

1293
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: him out of the tree. We're we're within a hundred yards,

1294
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 1: I think, and you know, I'm looking looking, I can

1295
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: hear him. He's goblin, goblin, goblin, goblin, And you know

1296
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: we're calling just a little bit back to him, um,

1297
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: some soft yelps and any rate, we we kind of

1298
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: put the call down and then we're to standoff. You know,

1299
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: he's wanting a gobble and I'm not saying anything. Well,

1300
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: then I see him pitch out when he pitches out

1301
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: to me, and it's the same thing again, yeah right

1302
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: to us, right, so, uh, the same thing Yan is

1303
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: talking about Yesterday's two little little swells. Right, So he

1304
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: pitches down behind he's two swells over, which is maybe

1305
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: maybe seventy eight yards and goblin drum and spitting the

1306
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. This turkey was going and I had my

1307
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: gun on my knee, and I hear the turkey and

1308
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: every once in a while can see the tips of

1309
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 1: us of his tail fan just over the top. You know,

1310
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: it's a done deal. I'm thinking about coming back and

1311
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: get something Mr Steve's coffee. The turkey comes in kind

1312
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: of follows this finger down right. I can just see

1313
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: glimpses and pieces of him. He turns around the swell

1314
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: and I say, well, if he gets around that and

1315
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: comes starts breaking towards me, it's over. I got him.

1316
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: He's committed. He did that. He broke around, took about

1317
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: ten steps, and at this point he's maybe fifty five

1318
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: or sixty yards coming on a on a string, turned sideways.

1319
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: I see his head yards waiting for inside forty. I

1320
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: like to shoot him closer to than further. Um. I

1321
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: know some of the new loads these days, but you know,

1322
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: when I started turkey hunting, it was the twenty gage

1323
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: with the two and three quarter inch six, you know.

1324
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: So we'll let him come on in. So I like

1325
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: him inside forty, I really do. It was too far

1326
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: from me. Some guys, maybe I don't. I don't like

1327
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: the cripple turkeys or anything, but turkeys. I couldn't. I

1328
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: like him to get close. So the turkey's coming. He

1329
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: turned sideways. His head's just bright white. He kind of

1330
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: comes out of strut, sticks his head straight up in

1331
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: the air. All the color leaves his head. He turns

1332
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: around and fast walks away. No doubt in my mind,

1333
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: he saw us. He walked around the corner, he saw us,

1334
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: and he split and that was that. I think he said, Man,

1335
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check by that big tree. No, dude, he

1336
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: saw Brandon back there moving around. I'm telling you, I

1337
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: was in the almost asleep mode. I was not moving around. Yeah,

1338
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: so that was it. That was it for me today.

1339
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: And then I wanted all over the hole. We wanted

1340
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: all over Holy hell. Yeah. And the wind picked up today,

1341
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: which was a little more frustrating it did. That was

1342
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: annoying me, man, Yeah, that was annoying. Yeah. It kind

1343
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: of makes it harder to keep going at that eleven

1344
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, Like you could barely hear him if he

1345
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: was gobbling at you. So here you are, turkeyless, come

1346
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 1: to the end of your side. It's over. It's over. Uh.

1347
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 1: We got out the turkey in the one spot was

1348
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 1: not there, in the in the borderland the border turkey

1349
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 1: was not there. Went down to the to the Roman

1350
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 1: the dour glass, the Roman Ridge, descended the Roman Ridge,

1351
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: and we'd already picked up a gobble by this point. No,

1352
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: we had to descend quite a ways until finally, and

1353
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't think we shocked him. We're we're kind of

1354
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: walking in and just maybe stopped, and all of a

1355
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: sudden we heard us a double gobble, two birds over

1356
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: the top of each other. So I wanted to start

1357
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: his goblem before he finish this gobble, his buddy gobble

1358
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: over him, which is cool. And then people like to

1359
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: talk about a double gobble, which is different. Double guy

1360
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: was just a turkey that goes. But these guys were

1361
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: gobbling over. When you go to doug During's farm on

1362
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 1: a good day, you'll get the whole ridge where it's

1363
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: like someone running their fingers down the piano. But on

1364
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 1: the whole damn riche a bird on one end of

1365
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: the ridge, old gobble and it just the gobbles just

1366
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: traveled down the ridge. That's fun. We weren't in that

1367
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 1: kind of situation and set up and right away repeat

1368
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: from yesterday, called up a hand, come up, make an

1369
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: all manner of noises. Um did she yelp? Yeah? Yeah,

1370
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think she actually every yelped the second the

1371
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: second one did a little bit doing a kiki out

1372
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: we we we But that's not a key? Is that

1373
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: a French kiki? Do you have a name for that?

1374
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: When it wasn't like she's doing like a right she yeh,

1375
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: that's not that's not but that's not what I'm talking about.

1376
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: She was doing this, am I not? Am I right

1377
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: or wrong? Yeah? You're right, she heard not that I

1378
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: am I call I do it? Yeah, but no that's

1379
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: too much like a pigeon. It's just a content clucking,

1380
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: purring noise. You' she caught? She she caught lots of cuts, clucked,

1381
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: didn't yell, did not she she caught? She did she

1382
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: that's not a cut. Boys the premost boys call that

1383
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: sound that we heard. They call it woo woo because

1384
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: it's just like she's going, Oh, that's what they call that. Yeah.

1385
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: But it's like, because the key I'm doing the kiki,

1386
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: the KICKI is like a louder, longer kind of noise.

1387
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: It's like a hurt It's like a hurting noise I'll

1388
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: make to their pulse. Yeah. So she clucked, cut, purred,

1389
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: and whood, which I think is interesting. It's all in

1390
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 1: that same content. Interesting part about it. Here's the interesting

1391
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: part about it. I like there's a there's there's the

1392
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: way turkey's sound mm hmm. Sometimes oftentimes you'll hear you'll

1393
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 1: see a real turkey doing a sequence of notes over

1394
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: a period of time that no turkey caller that I

1395
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: hang out with replicates. If I sat down in the

1396
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: woods with a guy and clugged his six minutes, he

1397
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 1: sat there just making racket like just piling on noise

1398
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: upon noise, NonStop. I would be after while I would

1399
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: like hit them on the shoulder. But here's a real

1400
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: live turkey just go into town. Not only just going

1401
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: to town. She just tromping through the woods too, walking

1402
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: and calling it cutting like a big arc just raising

1403
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: holy hell. And then not long after there was those

1404
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: hands we couldn't see in the bottom, just raising hell.

1405
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: It's like, if you wanted to really sound like turkeys,

1406
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: you get six seven guys just to go sit out

1407
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: in the woods and start just doing crazy stuff with

1408
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: turkey calls. It's kind of what it sounds like down there,

1409
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, But the difference is they're doing all that

1410
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 1: and it makes sense to them. If you sit down

1411
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: and start making like sequences of strange sounds, lord knows

1412
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: what message you're setting. I think that that's part of

1413
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: being like a little bit judicious, is because um, they're

1414
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: feeling something that might not match up with what you're

1415
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: laying down, Like they're in kind of a little fight,

1416
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: right or whatever, and it just means it makes sense

1417
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: to them that they're doing You don't know why they're

1418
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: doing it, but then um, try to work our way

1419
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 1: down spook a couple of turkeys. Here's a weird thing.

1420
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: I think Yann even knows where they are, and I

1421
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: think they're farther away. And we're arguing about this on

1422
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: and off, and eventually it proves that Yannie was correct

1423
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: because here they jump, they spook and fly off, which

1424
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: is a bad sign. I it's a real bad sign.

1425
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: We thought it was the end of our morning hunt.

1426
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: And I do a kind of like a very like

1427
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 1: having like three scoops of ice cream and all three

1428
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 1: of them is falling off your cone in the man. Yeah,

1429
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: and I do kind of a physical expression of you know,

1430
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: like it was like you're a little paler than you were,

1431
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: Like you're like that bird that uh Parker was working. Yeah, yeah,

1432
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: bunch of in your head. My head went from blue

1433
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 1: to red. So it was just like the right and

1434
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Yeah, he just does like a check

1435
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 1: like I don't know, dude. We do an elk hin

1436
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: all the time, because especially the bull might have just

1437
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,879
Speaker 1: been over the ridge. He spook half of his cows.

1438
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: He just hear his hoose running and so all saying

1439
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 1: you go give him the super sexy and like thrash

1440
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: around like someone else is chasing one of his cows.

1441
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: And that's something bitch, you know. Oh yeah, then he's

1442
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: just like coming to see what all the fuss is about.

1443
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, because it's thing in animals, man, It's like

1444
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: some animals, um hold more. Some animals in a group

1445
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: people pay attention to, and some animals in a group

1446
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: people don't pay attention to, because you could have it

1447
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 1: be that you're like putting the move on something and

1448
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: one will spot you and get nervous and you lost.

1449
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: The other ones don't pay any attention to that one.

1450
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: He hasn't proven his value. Um other ones. There's an

1451
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 1: animal that gets nervous and everyone gets nervous. Like when

1452
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: that animal gets nervous, everyone gets nervous. They did this

1453
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: thing with I can't remember verbets their monkey verbet monkeys.

1454
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: What is it? Verbet monkeys? I'm not sure. How do

1455
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: you can remember the name of this monkey? They went

1456
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: into these researchers went into this group of monkeys and

1457
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: made an audio recording of one of the monkeys in

1458
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: the troop. They made an auto recording of his warning

1459
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 1: call and started playing all of his war started playing

1460
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: his warning call to the troop all time, and he

1461
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: lost the street read they made it that when he

1462
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: made his legit morning, when he made when he did

1463
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 1: do his legit warning, everyone was like, whatever, never cried wolf.

1464
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: He cries wolf lost credit, So it could be something

1465
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: like that. Whatever it is, Yanni all of a sudden

1466
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: yelps again and yeah, right from the same. But they

1467
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: were agitated and edgy, and we hit the dirt, and

1468
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was all over because here he comes

1469
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,919
Speaker 1: kind of not like the blue redhead, yeah not instrud,

1470
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: not intrud, and a hand striding hand so close to him,

1471
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: her heads out over his tail, and he comes around

1472
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: this open hillside, and there's a number of things that

1473
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: I think might have happened. My guess is he gets

1474
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: where he can see and looks on this very open

1475
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: hillside and he says to himself, I don't care what

1476
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm hearing. There's not a hand. That's two mugs laying

1477
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: in the dirt out of hand. I don't think he

1478
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: saw us, probably not. I just think he looked and

1479
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 1: he's like, I didn't get to be this old bye,

1480
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: which is twenty four months. Probably I didn't get this

1481
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: old by doing this. But here's the deal, Yanni screwed

1482
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: me out of that turkey because it was a yelp

1483
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: from a diaphragm call that got him to gobble and

1484
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: got him coming. And he gets there and he gets

1485
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: out of you, Yanni, and I'm watching him and he

1486
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: gets where he can see the hill, and he started

1487
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: getting bored and turned around and like why is he

1488
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: not calling? Why is he not calling? Turned out he

1489
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: couldn't see that. He thought turkey was just coming, and

1490
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: it was all over, Like why call now and mess up?

1491
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, everything's already set in motion, Like why do anything? Yeah,

1492
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: because I've I've had experiences, not many, but I've had

1493
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: experiences where it's a direct line of sight with the

1494
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: turkey and I didn't have the control to not call anymore.

1495
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: I just maybe one to hear him gobble again or whatever.

1496
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: And I called and that turkey stopped and was like

1497
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: I can see exactly the blade of grass that that

1498
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 1: call came from, and I do not see a HND.

1499
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: So usually if I made contact and I see him coming,

1500
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm shutting down because like why mess is a good thing?

1501
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: Like why I draw extra attention unless you're like a ventriloquist,

1502
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: why I would be like, oh, by the way this

1503
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:33,600
Speaker 1: tree right here by this shotgun. Yeah, so he drifts off, okay,

1504
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: because there's a part of this I failed up to

1505
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: the left is not an owl. I'm like really really,

1506
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 1: and you know that's so it's like you're working a bird,

1507
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: but you're also aware of like the coming trouble because

1508
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: this bird's goblin. So you know that somebody can hear

1509
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: this bird gobblin. He probably thinks that he just discovered whatever,

1510
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: no idea what he's walking in on. Probably nicest guy

1511
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 1: in the world. But pretty soon the who who switches

1512
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the yippy yipp yep and he's just coming hard. Man.

1513
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: It's like this guy's jogging jogging. We never see him,

1514
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: you just hear him, like he's running down into this

1515
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: and the turkeys started to move off and he's behind him,

1516
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: and for a minute, we I'm feeling, hey man, we

1517
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: found this. We would here since four got light out,

1518
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: we're here since daybreak. It's not your holler. So he's

1519
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: moving along and the turkeys are not moving and he's

1520
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: moving behind him, and we think we're gonna game him

1521
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: and maybe get out ahead of him. But then we're

1522
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: just like racing over turkeys and yeah, the turkey's went

1523
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,400
Speaker 1: to his side of the holler, and so we went

1524
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: wander around. Found some turkey tracks, found like where a

1525
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 1: turkey had dusted a little bit or some such. Stamped

1526
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: up and winged up an area. Found a little pig track,

1527
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: found a bigger pig track. Wandered around a bunch more

1528
01:29:01,560 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 1: uh eight a snack, made a whole bunch of really

1529
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: loud locating type calls. Hoping started feeling sorry for myself.

1530
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Come down, oh man, it was getting late in the day.

1531
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: I was I was having uh sympathy. Come down to holler,

1532
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: hit a creek and start working our way up. Oh

1533
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: found a nightcrawler, tore it up with little pieces and

1534
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: threw it in the river to watch creek chubs feed

1535
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: on it. Um, get down to a creek and you're

1536
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: honest and you're both common. Like, man's look good down

1537
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 1: here in the main the lusciest place we've been in

1538
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: the last three main stem creek, lots of sunlight, very lush,

1539
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: and we start working our way along. Had kind of

1540
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: like done, you gotta quit noon, you gotta quit it one.

1541
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: And we got a long walk and all of a sudden,

1542
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I look and like here is abedded down turkey not

1543
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: but ten or twelve feet away in a blowdown when

1544
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: a hen like a couple of things, when a hen's like,

1545
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, nesting, and she actually once she gets all

1546
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: of her eggs and there she's gonna incubate him. I

1547
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: throw up my shotgun and I'm aiming down the shock

1548
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: and I had to sing on the ground, and Yanna says, hen,

1549
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: but I I've also seen turkey's laid down to hide,

1550
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: and you've seen this park one. The one time I

1551
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: saw it, we were coming down a canyon in New

1552
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Mexico and come around a corner and caught a turkey

1553
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: out in the middle of a field. And the turkey

1554
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,679
Speaker 1: laid down flat on the ground and stretched his neck

1555
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: out and just laid down. You got and then got

1556
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: nervous and broke Yeah. We he I think he thought

1557
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 1: he had been just slicking up and he had this appeared,

1558
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, behind her eyes. And because we I mean

1559
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: we were you know, a tight little cannon kanyon and

1560
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: it had just you know, broken up, and it's like

1561
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: the first time you could look left and look down

1562
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: the opening. All you see is a turkey head and

1563
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, descending and you could see him laying his

1564
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: neck out. Remember seconds before that we found where a

1565
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:21,600
Speaker 1: mountain lion and killed a turkey. Yeah. Um, so he

1566
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: betted that he just laid down the hide. That's the

1567
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: only I didn't know. I didn't know that was the

1568
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: thing that could happen until that day. So I throw

1569
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: my shotgun up. Yanni says it's a hand and I

1570
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: said something like, I'm just checking making sure it's not

1571
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 1: a jake. I don't know, because I thought, like a jake,

1572
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 1: he's young, he doesn't even know what's going on. Maybe

1573
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: he would think it's a good idea to lay down,

1574
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it jumps up and it's

1575
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,679
Speaker 1: a crippled turkey. Yeah, a crippled gobbler, a crippled long

1576
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: beer who can't he's trying to take flight, but he

1577
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:03,919
Speaker 1: can't take flight. So blouched him to a little effect.

1578
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: He went off through. I tore off after him, running short,

1579
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: shocked my shotgun, pulled the trigger, nothing happened, did a

1580
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: regular full long stroke on my shotgun, ran more and

1581
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: caught up to himuntain the woods and shot him and

1582
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: get up there, and he had he had been injured.

1583
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: His wing was suffered to injury, and we did a

1584
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: do you say knee crops here? We did a knee

1585
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: cropsy on him to no avail. Shattered. The main joint

1586
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: in his wing is shattered, like he got hit by

1587
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: a twenty two. He got hit by a truck. What

1588
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 1: did you make of the leg? Later? And I want

1589
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,480
Speaker 1: to ask you this, all his back leg was all bruised.

1590
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Was he running full steam or was he gimped up?

1591
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Show that promise? He was trying to take flight, so

1592
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: he didn't run off like a normal turkey would run.

1593
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: He was trying to take light. So he's beating his

1594
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: wings to no effect. So he was like putting all

1595
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: this energy to trying to get airborne. He wasn't running

1596
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: with his wings tucked. She couldn't tell about the leg

1597
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: at that point because it was a real man. It

1598
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,520
Speaker 1: was not like a graceful departure on his part. Yeah.

1599
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: And plus I mean you got a shot on him

1600
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: in him within seconds of him getting going. So yeah,

1601
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: and it's noon. You don't hunt at one. It's my

1602
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 1: last day. So one there's sort of like this idea

1603
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of guys that they found like a

1604
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 1: mortally wounded animal they're gonna kill it anyway, which I've done.

1605
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:43,639
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, here's my turkey as well, and he's

1606
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 1: obviously messed up. So we go there. But he's not

1607
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: emaciated and the wound wasn't an old wound. He I

1608
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know, he got shot by another turkey hunter. That's

1609
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 1: the most plausible explanation. Um, but I don't know. Man,

1610
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 1: that windows awful broken up. Who knows anything could have happened. Anything,

1611
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: There's a infinite number of things that could happen. But no,

1612
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 1: he's mine. Yep. Now he's going to Seattle, head to

1613
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: the fryar longer schnitzelham cooking in a pan. So I

1614
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: got two turkey breast flays in one leg. Coming home

1615
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: like good deal though here. Now, at first I didn't

1616
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:41,680
Speaker 1: feel like I got a turkey. But you know, all

1617
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: the details get in life, like the details get hazy.

1618
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like I just got a turkey,

1619
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: Like like when I get home to be like, hey,

1620
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 1: how's missouris you get a burn on me? Oh yeah already?

1621
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: Like at first I was, you know, we pull up

1622
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: and like did you get one? I like, wow, I'm

1623
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 1: not really, you know, kind of asterisk next to this one,

1624
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: but then that like does three hours later? Yeah, yeah

1625
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: I got one. Yeah, checks check Missouri off the list.

1626
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, I still feel like I didn't

1627
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 1: get one. Yeah, you didn't know that that much. As

1628
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: clear as that you did not get But if you

1629
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't asked me on Monday at about ten o'clock, if

1630
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: we were gonna go three for four, oh, I already

1631
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: had it all put together. People are gonna be like, hey,

1632
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: how'd you guys dealing with serious and be like, bro,

1633
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: the weather, weather, You've never seen such horrible weather. I

1634
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: was gonna say that all before I said no, we

1635
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: didn't get any. But now and they'll be like, how

1636
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: that you know that birdie got down Missouri? How far

1637
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: was that shot? I'll be like, oh, it was close,

1638
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: called him in. It was closed those close. He kind

1639
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 1: of turned. He kind of turned right before I got him.

1640
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: He drumming and spitting. No, he's doing like came in solid. Yeah, yeah,

1641
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: never peep out of him. No, Yeah, I got a turkey,

1642
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:14,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely no doubt in my mind about that. Hey, listen,

1643
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 1: have we not been just out wandering the woods until

1644
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: one pm? That wouldn't have happened. So the the hard

1645
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 1: work of that paid off. To keep walking through the woods.

1646
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 1: If you're just walking around like looking for nightcrawlers, keep

1647
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 1: walking in the woods. And then we came home and

1648
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: had um came back here and uh Steve Hugh lay

1649
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 1: out the many for us. What we had for lunch, Well,

1650
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: we had some venice and chili and uh some of

1651
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Brandon's Uh what kind of catfish was that? It was flathead?

1652
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: But it was donated by Mark flash Polar. All Right, dude,

1653
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: if I had a name flash Polar, I would fish

1654
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 1: a lot more. And I already fish a lot. He's uh,

1655
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: I'd shortened it the flash Pole waterfall biologist. Flathead cats

1656
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: man unbelievably good. But I love them so much. But

1657
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: like growing up, we'd catch a big flathead and we

1658
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: didn't know to trim the fat off. My it's guys,

1659
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 1: that stuff tastes bad. Yeah, catfish fat is not good.

1660
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: Why is that? We don't know? Man, it's but it's not.

1661
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: It's horrible. Yeah, we made the mistake. When was that

1662
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: last fall? Maybe we're doing some uh cooking for television,

1663
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: No cook, we're shooting recipes for the cook pot. Is

1664
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 1: that when we had that, I thought we had that. Yeah,

1665
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: we didn't have any. We were doing a fried catfish thing,

1666
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 1: but we had to buy a piece cast. So someone

1667
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: went and bought a big slab of catfish, and we're

1668
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: you know, nobody even thought twice to think about trimming

1669
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: it more. Obviously it would have just been trimmed fine

1670
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: and godly, it is nasty, nasty, nasty the fat. Yeah,

1671
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: that's why I like the little channels we catch because

1672
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: little I mean, you can trim it, but I mean

1673
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: the little channels don't get the fat on him. You

1674
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,719
Speaker 1: call those fiddlers. I know that people do calm fidders,

1675
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: but no, we call them little dinkers. Call them fiddlers

1676
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: around here. Yeah, I know, whole fries and fiddlers just

1677
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: skin them back. We flame them because we fiddlers, I

1678
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: don't know, Kevin Murphy says, because they fiddle with your bait.

1679
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good, that's a good. Yeah, that might

1680
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 1: be it. But yeah, you can just pull back the

1681
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: skin and and front, you know, take the head off

1682
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: and fry him. Hoole. We flayed dinkers because putting them

1683
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 1: on sandwiches, poll boys with pickles, whole you type roll

1684
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: bag at whatever frr catfish make up like a like

1685
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 1: a like a you know, tartar type sauce. Then you

1686
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 1: put red hot on them, pickles on them, let us

1687
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: on them. Basically like the kind of sandwich is Aris

1688
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: Feedy in Florida with grouper, but we just make them

1689
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: with kind of similar, different bun. But the flathoad was

1690
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: good Man, and the chili was like real chili. It

1691
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: wasn't like Midwest mom chili. It was from scratch. It's it.

1692
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I love that stuff because I love Midwest mom chill.

1693
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, right, I don't know.

1694
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: You take the ground up deer meat and put it

1695
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: canned tomato products in there, and then you put pinto

1696
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 1: beans in there. Yeah, I like it. I like the

1697
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 1: venice and cut more chunky than than ground and using

1698
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: real chilies instead of chili powder, and uh in adobo yep,

1699
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Chipotle's and adobo. We're in there, and uh I love it.

1700
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I have to have another bowl before I leave. I

1701
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: like the fried guy like fried catfish, Man Friday, any

1702
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: kind of fish because of my upbringing. But in the South,

1703
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: you guys eat a lot of that. You guys come, no,

1704
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 1: you say this is not the South. No, this isn't

1705
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: the South, saying I thought it was the Midwest. And

1706
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 1: you guys say this isn't the Midwest. From we're at

1707
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: where I'm from, you'd be like, yeah, it's a little south.

1708
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: It's technically the Midwest. There's twelve states in the Midwest.

1709
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: Missouri's the southwest corner the Midwest. I will say the

1710
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: Missouri is in the University of missouris now in the SEC,

1711
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 1: the Southeastern Conference. So when I'm running around in the

1712
01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Hollard town, when I'm down in the Holler, I am

1713
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 1: a hard time believing that I'm in the Midwest. It's

1714
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: a good argument, especially talking to Parker. If I was

1715
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 1: down in the holler with Parker, we're in the South,

1716
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 1: but the the frigid, cold North. That's all I have

1717
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: to say about Turkey hunting. Action packed. And I like

1718
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: the way you set it up with the shitty first day. Yeah,

1719
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna remark on that, man, that's what you know,

1720
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: because looking back on it, yeah, it's just the way

1721
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 1: to have it. If you set it up the other way,

1722
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: that had been horrible. I did my best to have

1723
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: a screaming good first day, then have a shitty last day.

1724
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 1: It would be a bummer. It's unbelievable. What what a

1725
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: difference it made though overnight, just one day difference it was.

1726
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: It was the way turkey hunting is supposed to be.

1727
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: I actually thought, maybe I'll find a mushroom. You know,

1728
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 1: this time of year, we're supposed to be waking up

1729
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: with a sweatshirt on end in the day, with shorts

1730
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: and sandals on, going out mushroom hunting and crappie fishing.

1731
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, the trifecta of the Missouri spring is the

1732
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,479
Speaker 1: wild turkey, the wild mushroom, and crappy filets. And uh,

1733
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: none of those have been happening until yesterday. No, And

1734
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: if you come back a week from now, you won't

1735
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: even recognize the place will be all leaved out. Well,

1736
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 1: it started to change. Yeah, in the last two days.

1737
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: The leaves started budding. Yeah, things are popping up out

1738
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 1: of the ground. His friend was saying, how this time

1739
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 1: you can sit in the woods and almost watch the

1740
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 1: leaves grow. I feel like that happened on the days today,

1741
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm glad you got to see a little

1742
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 1: bit of the red buds. That's such a beautiful tree,

1743
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 1: and they grow here and these in these hills and mountains.

1744
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 1: And I know it's hard for you guys to look

1745
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: at these and column mountains, but no, no, I went

1746
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, so the red buds were starting to

1747
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:03,760
Speaker 1: pop a little bit. But like Steve said, a week

1748
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: from now when those white dogwoods are in bloom and

1749
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: they're mixed in with those red buds which are really

1750
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: more of a purple color, and turkeys are goblin, croppies

1751
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: are biting, the mushrooms are popping. I mean, it's just

1752
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: the best. There's a good variety trees here, man, it

1753
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: really is. We got like the cedar, which is the

1754
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: non native short leaf pine, a lot of oak, hackberry,

1755
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: a lot of hickory, hickory sass I know, it's a

1756
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 1: bunch of sassafras trees today. Back at the turn of

1757
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 1: the century, the largest sawmill, not this New century, but

1758
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds, the largest sawmill in the world was

1759
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:45,520
Speaker 1: only you know, a couple of counties over from here.

1760
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 1: For the ozarks were pretty much logged bare twice before

1761
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:55,360
Speaker 1: protection started. Um And now we have incredible canopy and

1762
01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 1: there's much more management of the forest proper for for

1763
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: tree harvest rather than just taking it all and fell

1764
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 1: swoop right. I think originally the short leaf pine was

1765
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 1: more dominant than the oaks, but the oaks came back

1766
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 1: after the There's still a lot of those short leaf

1767
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: pines around. When I'm looking to set up, I'm always

1768
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: We're always like, let's go ahead of those pines. We're

1769
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: setting up to a turkey. It's always like you're like Marker.

1770
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 1: You know, I've got a little stand of them. It's

1771
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 1: my favorite place on the property. Yeah, we're wondering to

1772
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: the Ozarks. Is there a place in the Ozarks where

1773
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 1: the relief becomes more severe than what we see here? Yeah? Yeah,

1774
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean the oz are stretched, you know, down into Arkansas,

1775
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: over into a little portion of Oklahoma. And I would

1776
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: say the most dramatic kind of mountainscape is down in Arkansas,

1777
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 1: the watch Atas and But do they get taller or

1778
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: just steeper? I can't really speak to the elevation, I'm

1779
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: not sure, but just the vastness of the entire range.

1780
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: The tallest the tallest point in Missouri there was a

1781
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 1: little ways north of here, so they're kind of scattered out. Um,

1782
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: what is the highest point in Missouri. It's right by

1783
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: Johnson shut into what's it's tom Sack Mountain, tom Sack Mountain,

1784
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 1: which is a heart of the pig country. Yeah. I

1785
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: don't know how idea Yeah, easy to find out, uh, Brandon.

1786
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 1: Final thoughts closers, concluders. Just never give up on tomorrow.

1787
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: Never give up on tomorrow. Never give up. There could

1788
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: always be a crippled up Turkey land. You will never

1789
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 1: see that again in your life, No, I really won't. Yeah,

1790
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 1: it was it was a great time. Glad you guys

1791
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: came down and um, I'm glad the turkey hunt worked

1792
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,920
Speaker 1: out the way it did. It was tough the first

1793
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:58,799
Speaker 1: day and we redeemed ourselves. All worked out in the end. Steve.

1794
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: That's it you, Brandon. I'm good, Steve. I just it

1795
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: was kind of strange being in turkey camp and not hunting.

1796
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: I've never done that before. But I was saving up

1797
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 1: for going up to my farm this weekend, and it

1798
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: was just fun to be with you guys. And you

1799
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 1: have a place you'd like to hunt, right, were you

1800
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: to kill a turkey here, you couldn't hunt your favorite

1801
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: place to hunt, right, And my wife would have said, well,

1802
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: we don't have to go up since you already got

1803
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 1: a bird, and I know she really really wants to

1804
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: go up, so I didn't. I didn't want to get

1805
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: into that situation. So so you just cooked wild game.

1806
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 1: I cooked wild game, and I know right what tree

1807
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 1: my turkey is gonna be in. So yeah, although he

1808
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: embarrassed me last year, I'm gonna get even this year.

1809
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: Good final. Uh, we appreciate the cooking. That was good.

1810
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: We a lot of good food, a lot of Suvie

1811
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:50,680
Speaker 1: cooking this week cranbrule. Suvie hadn't even heard of that yet. Uh,

1812
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: we should grab the recipe from you before we leave. Yeah,

1813
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: can you can you real quick walk through the Suvie

1814
01:45:55,640 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 1: uh medallion's little backstrap steaks? Yeah, that's just you just

1815
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: take a loin and butterfly it nice and thick, good

1816
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 1: inchine and a half thick and uh butterfly it and

1817
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: just put salt, pepper and garlic potter on it. Can

1818
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 1: you can you? Because my like I hear that, but

1819
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't like when we say butterfly. I think we're

1820
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:22,640
Speaker 1: talking about two different things. We would say that to butterfly, like,

1821
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: for instance, to butterfly a pike flay will be to

1822
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: take that flay in every three eighths of an inch

1823
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: cut through, but not all the way through. That's what

1824
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: I do. I kind of I kind of bout a

1825
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 1: about a three inch section of the loin. But you're

1826
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: saying you're cutting. I understand, Like I'm not saying you're

1827
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying either of us is right or wrong,

1828
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: but our use of that term would be that um

1829
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 1: to not cut all the way through something. That's exactly

1830
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: what I did. They folded out and there was like, oh,

1831
01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 1: so you did do that? Yeah? Really, yes, so I

1832
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 1: guess that because that's why. Yeah, but really a deer loins, No,

1833
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: but I thought it was like an elk loin when

1834
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: I looked at it. Really, that's what you did. You did, butterfly,

1835
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: it's the same way. Absolutely, I didn't catch that. You

1836
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: sure got like a uniform looking product out of it. Well,

1837
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: I take pride in my work. Really congratulation, Well, thank you.

1838
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: But so you take him and put him in a

1839
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: plash what everyone knows that word means. That's right, open

1840
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: it up, salt, pepper and garlic powder and put it

1841
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 1: in a plastic bag and the meats hew thick, but

1842
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say echine inch and a quarter. Usually I

1843
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,559
Speaker 1: tried it between me between an inch in the quarter.

1844
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying the final meat, the final opened up piece

1845
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,720
Speaker 1: of meat. Normally I'll do a two and a half

1846
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: to three inch section and then i'll, you know, do

1847
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: the one seam in the middle where you cut almost

1848
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 1: all the way through where your butterfly folded folded out

1849
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: and make it look pretty. I had no idea that's

1850
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: what I was eating. Absolutely, And then I put it

1851
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 1: in the water. I mean, you could take a long

1852
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: time explaining what suvied is, but basically, you know, just

1853
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: put it in the water, in the bag and put

1854
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,880
Speaker 1: the little immersion circulator on and I said it a

1855
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: huddy nine degrees for two hours and take it out

1856
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: and then finished it with a weed burning torch. I

1857
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: did finish it with a wade burning torch. Holy sh it?

1858
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Was that a good steak man? Yeah? Yeah, you reverse,

1859
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 1: because I hear guys torching them or seeing him first

1860
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: now and then putting them into Yeah, yeah, I don't.

1861
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: I have heard like if I'm doing a brisket, I

1862
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 1: will smoke the brisket first for three hours and then

1863
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 1: I'll finish it in the suvied. I know you're messing

1864
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: this up, though, reverse is to see her after because

1865
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: in normal cooking. Sorry he did do reverse, and no

1866
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: one's gonna tell me about this wrong. I have heard

1867
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, and I just like like a reverse,

1868
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 1: like a reverse suvie, because the commons suvie preparation, I

1869
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: think is to you know, in the water first and

1870
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,599
Speaker 1: then see her at the end. So it's a good yeah,

1871
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 1: but that's not like a very smart way to do

1872
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: it because it just gets resocked. Is that a word

1873
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: all over again? Yeah? I think about what people. I

1874
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: think the uh, the benefit is that the flavor that

1875
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: you get from the searing is then in the in

1876
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 1: there in the bag. He took these steaks out on

1877
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: the front deck here, from which he hoots up, hoots

1878
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 1: up turkeys, and fired up a wheat like a weed

1879
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: burning torch, which like ranchers in West Texas will use

1880
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 1: to burn thorns off prickly pair of cactus so the

1881
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: cattle can eat him when there's a drought, and seared

1882
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 1: the steaks beautifully. That's a good steak man. That's his

1883
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: white tailed deer. Ye from a holler from We don't

1884
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 1: have hollers in northern Missouri. That's up in the Midwest.

1885
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,680
Speaker 1: You're in the Midwest. Yeah, some big corn fed deer

1886
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: up there is that? It Uh fine? All closing thought,

1887
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: you don't have too much. I just want to say

1888
01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 1: thanks to Brandon again for having us. My pleasure sharing

1889
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: his place. Good times vacuuming up all them invasive beetles

1890
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 1: for us. Parker's got to get to work on those.

1891
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 1: We gotta figure out how to get rid of these

1892
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 1: Asian beetle and those dudes are tough man. Uh Parker,

1893
01:50:26,479 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: do you have any final things you'd like to add? No,

1894
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 1: thanks guys, it was a good time, and Brandon for

1895
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: having us down. And you know I did come up turkeyles,

1896
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: but you know we heard a lot of birds in

1897
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: in the last two days. It was a good time. Man.

1898
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: Finally get back out in the woods. Bring turkey seasons

1899
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 1: upon us. I have full turkey pressure now I have

1900
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: not harvested the turkey, so the pressure's building. You have

1901
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: more time though, I have a little time. Yeah, so

1902
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get after one. Um. My final thought is

1903
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: the way oh hunting on public land in the east

1904
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 1: which you hear from all manner guys about how horrible

1905
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: public land hunting is in the East, And I would

1906
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:16,760
Speaker 1: have agreed with him at eleven today, Yeah, because you're

1907
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: like that, because yeah, we got burned by a couple

1908
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,679
Speaker 1: of guys. But then I then I found my special

1909
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 1: uh my special bird. But even besides that, man, it's

1910
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: just like it's got, you know, a couple of things. One,

1911
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: it's still great hunting people got you know, you got turkey.

1912
01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:38,520
Speaker 1: We people got turkeys. We're working turkeys here in turkeys.

1913
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 1: It's a lot better than sitting inside um. But man, like,

1914
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: if you can get, if you can get and be successful,

1915
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: regularly successful, like consistently successful in the place like this,

1916
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a good turkey hunter anywhere you go.

1917
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Definitely to have the added thing of the race against

1918
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 1: the clock. Knowing that the more that like you're trying

1919
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 1: to make that bird goblin, you're doing everything right. It's

1920
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna get that bird goblin. The more you get that

1921
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: bird goblin, the more other people are gonna be like, hey,

1922
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 1: it's bird goblin. It's almost like you'd refine a thing

1923
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 1: by which you um, like you'd refine a hunting strategy,

1924
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,880
Speaker 1: but which she's like, don't just don't gobble. I just

1925
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: do one gobble out of this bird, and then I'm

1926
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: gonna do I'm gonna figure out some hunting strategy about

1927
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 1: which they just will not gobble. I don't want him excited.

1928
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Does everybody stay calm? And I just want you to

1929
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: casually come in as to not notify other hunters that

1930
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 1: you're down here, because the more he's going, you can

1931
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: almost just feel him. You can feel the people being

1932
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: like you're that. But it's fun. Man, it's a whole

1933
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: other challenge. It's a whole other challenge, and it's something

1934
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, I can see why people get for

1935
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: rustrated with it, but I also see why it must

1936
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:08,559
Speaker 1: make some really really good hunters, some turkey masters. Everybody

1937
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: should come down here to check out these creeks too. Man,

1938
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 1: there pretty amazing just chomping around the hollers and and

1939
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 1: looking at these creeks. They just come bubbling out of

1940
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: the ground. I was really hoping that we'd have an

1941
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,639
Speaker 1: opportunity to float. That's partly what this area is known for.

1942
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 1: Our rivers are just second to none, you know. And

1943
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm a guy I lived in Montana and Colorado. And

1944
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you these ozark rivers, they're just all you know,

1945
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 1: gravel bottom, crystal clear. Their spring creeks. Dude, poland spring

1946
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 1: doesn't get water clear in that shop in the bottle

1947
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: at the store. Yeah, it's it's crisp, looks cloudy compared

1948
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: to the creeks around here. We've got incredible trout fishing,

1949
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: but the small mouth is what is so attractive. You know,

1950
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: there's great trout fishing out west, but our small mouth

1951
01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 1: fishing here is just world class. That's in my mind,

1952
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 1: a small mouth this is we're gonna wrap her up.

1953
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: But I do want to acknowledge that saying something super

1954
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: truthful is uh, in my mind, is a small cooler

1955
01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: in the trout? Go ahead, I agree, And we can

1956
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: float them and and and fish out of drift boat

1957
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 1: the same way you would fish for rainbows out west,

1958
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: and you're fishing them with you can fish them with

1959
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 1: spinning equipment, but I prefer to fly fish. And so

1960
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 1: it's like you're it's like your trout fishing on a

1961
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 1: crystal clear spring creek, but you're you're fly fishing for

1962
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 1: lunk or smallmouth, and they fight for trout fisherman, I'd

1963
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: be like, you know, it's almost like it's almost like

1964
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 1: your fishing Smalley's on a crystal clear ozark stream. But nothing,

1965
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 1: it's harder, Nothing fights harder than a small mouth. I agree.

1966
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I think like that we used to say, like in Michigan,

1967
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: everybody's like like pound for pound, I would say with

1968
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: freshwater fish, it's hard to find a rival and pound

1969
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:54,720
Speaker 1: for pound fighting ability. There's a small mouth bass, for sure,

1970
01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I think the I think they're I think they're at

1971
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 1: least seven times cooler than large mouth. And what would

1972
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: be what would take second place in fresh pound for pound,

1973
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: no doubt, think of the shape of that thing. Right.

1974
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: And it's tough fishing too because of how clear the

1975
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: water is. So you you do really good at do

1976
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: really good at dawn and dust. So when you're out

1977
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 1: fishing with some poppers or any kind of surface plug,

1978
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: throwing a mouse or anything for the small mouth at

1979
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:25,640
Speaker 1: dusk and they just come up and destroy it on

1980
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: the surface. Man, it's exhilarating. I could picture that you'd

1981
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 1: have to use some some fine floral carbon line or something. Man,

1982
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: with all that light and all that clarity, certainly during

1983
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: the daytime. All right, thanks for listening. Oh you know what,

1984
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: I gotta work on. The guy emailed in and he

1985
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: says I have the worst way to end. It's the

1986
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 1: worst ending for a show he's ever heard. And he says,

1987
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: I need to work on a catchphrase. Oh like, who

1988
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: is that guy who would say like good night and

1989
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 1: good luck Walter Cronk hit, Yeah, something like that. I

1990
01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 1: need to work on something like catch freeze, good hunting,

1991
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 1: you freeloaders, something along the line.