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Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, Rip

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Speaker 2: Buddy well habby Abby Abby Abby Fox Sports Saturday Live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios where the fellas Jason Fitz,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano here as uh we get ready. We got

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Speaker 2: our no playoffs last night, no hockey, no basketball. But

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Speaker 2: it's back at it with a great one because it's

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Speaker 2: Nicks and Pacers Game six. This is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun, very interesting eight o'clock tonight eastern right

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Speaker 2: on TNT, and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Indiana have to close. Now. There's a lot of pressure,

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Speaker 2: right you know you you you had the buffer game.

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Speaker 2: Nicks went and they held home court, they roll, They

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Speaker 2: played really well in Game five, blowout City. Now there

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Speaker 2: is a bit of pressure. There's a bit of pressure

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Speaker 2: on the Pacers to close this series out because they

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Speaker 2: don't want to go back to the Garden for Game seven.

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Speaker 2: Fitci Yeah, I feel that.

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Speaker 3: And the funny thing is I was watching it thinking,

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Speaker 3: you know, okay, this you know, my ever analytical mind

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Speaker 3: sometimes as the Game five was ending, I was thinking, man,

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Speaker 3: you know what we're all gonna do don't want to

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Speaker 3: go back to a Game seven at the Garden, Like

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Speaker 3: that's just what the talking Boy's gonna be. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: so I spent a day trying to figure out if

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Speaker 3: that was right or just overblown, you know, bloviating gas bags,

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Speaker 3: and I just I can't get away from it. You're right,

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Speaker 3: it just feels like, no matter, it's not about the

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Speaker 3: Garden even. It just feels like the amount of lost momentum,

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Speaker 3: all of those things that come if you end up

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Speaker 3: in a Game seven where you've lost two straight, just

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Speaker 3: feels like the pressure mounts with every single step more

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Speaker 3: towards the side of Indiana. That being said, man, the

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Speaker 3: two losses that they have in this series, I just

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Speaker 3: don't feel like Indiana playing their normal style of basketball.

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Speaker 3: And I know that's over simplification, but Anthony, it does

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Speaker 3: drive me a little crazy, Like you had the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to go in and just end this thing, and you

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Speaker 3: came out a little bit flat.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have your usual sort of.

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Speaker 3: Pace, you weren't shooting particularly well, all the things that

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Speaker 3: happened in the other loss, and I just sit there

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Speaker 3: and think, Man, it is frustrating when you watch a

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Speaker 3: team that you know is capable of being better not

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Speaker 3: deliver that in the biggest moment when they need it,

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Speaker 3: and now they have to do it at home.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's interesting, it's an interesting thought. It's

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Speaker 2: to me, it's more the ying and the yang of

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Speaker 2: his series, right, And it's a closer matchup. It's not

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Speaker 2: like OKAC Minnesota, right. I think the Knicks through the

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Speaker 2: knockout punts. I could say, you know, I agree that

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Speaker 2: Indiana didn't had the same defensive energy. But you know,

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Speaker 2: part of it too, is the Knicks are taking you

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Speaker 2: out of that, right, Like that's a prideful team. The

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Speaker 2: one thing about that Knicks team is you say, wherever

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Speaker 2: you want, it's not, you know, supremely talented and that

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Speaker 2: it's one of these elite teams ever. But it's got

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Speaker 2: a ton of grit. It's got a ton of pride.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: They were a prideful bunch. They go out and they

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Speaker 2: play ball and they're gonna, you know, back against the wall.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not. They're not laying down in a series.

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Speaker 2: They're they're coming out throwing aymakers. And that's kind of

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Speaker 2: what I saw of Game five.

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Speaker 3: I agree with all of that. I think you know,

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Speaker 3: yesterday there was a viral clip but a lot of

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Speaker 3: people might have seen that was blown up and it

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Speaker 3: was a reporter from Indiana asking the question to Siakam

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Speaker 4: It came across really poorly.

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Speaker 3: I understood some of what the question was based on, though, Becau,

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Speaker 3: because I think what's shocking for a lot of people is,

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Speaker 3: like you said, the Knicks do have pride, which I expected,

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Speaker 3: And the Knicks came out and they were just swinging

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Speaker 3: like Mike Tyson in his prime, which I expected. So

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Speaker 3: sometimes you look at these things, or I look at

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Speaker 3: these things and say, man, it's just hard because everything

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Speaker 3: that New York was in game five is exactly what

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Speaker 4: Them to be.

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Speaker 3: So I thought Indiana would be more capable and ready

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Speaker 3: you're right, like it is EBB and flow within a

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Speaker 2: Minnesota probably like okay, see game game was it four

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Speaker 2: right again? And Minnesota back against the wall and you know,

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Speaker 3: Fours like a human tendency. I guess, like it's just

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Speaker 3: it's hard to wrap my head. Like you and I

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Speaker 3: talk a lot on the in the fall about the

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Speaker 3: fact that when like I personally, when the team comes

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Speaker 3: out flat, I think there are there are just times

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Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, right, that there are times, no matter,

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Speaker 3: it's a human element that we have to acknowledge. It

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Speaker 3: is frustrating for me in college football or the NFL

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Speaker 3: when it happens, because there are so few games, right,

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Speaker 3: So when it happens in the long NHL or and

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Speaker 3: NBA season, okay, there's it's just a Tuesday night came.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes there are team's gonna be a little flat. That's fine.

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Speaker 3: In college football and the NFL, there's so few games

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Speaker 3: you just can't afford that luxury.

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Speaker 4: In the NBA playoffs, there.

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Speaker 3: Are just certain moments that I sit there and say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: like I guess I had built up Indiana because it's

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Speaker 3: just think Indiana is a much better team than the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: I built this up to the point that I expected

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Speaker 3: game flow of Game five to be Nicks come out

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Speaker 3: absolutely punching, the Pacers have to dig their way back

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Speaker 3: into it. Second half starts with a little bit more

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Speaker 3: desperation and then and the Pacers have to answer that, like,

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Speaker 3: that's in my mind.

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Speaker 2: I think that's entirely fair. Like, you know, I liked

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Speaker 2: Indiana for the series. You and I talked about it.

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Speaker 2: I liked Indiana early the playoffs. We said, I think

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Speaker 2: we both said, okay, see in the Anna. Even the

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Speaker 2: other night, I agreed with you. I thought halftime, a

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Speaker 2: buddy of mine is uh does a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: He's him in the brain. They always bet games and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And he asked me, He's like, what do you think

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Speaker 2: because he had Indiana, and I go listen, I think

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Speaker 2: there's a chance that they come out and in the

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Speaker 2: second half, and you know, this is their run. Can

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Speaker 2: the Nicks stave off their run? And they did, like

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Speaker 2: they Didn'iana did come out with a run and the

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Speaker 2: Knicks just counterpunched. I mean, Towns was ridiculous brunce. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you have brunch in the town's gun, when they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be tough to beat. So I fish took that

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Speaker 2: more as an admit and flow of this series and

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Speaker 2: less an indictment on the end. Now, I do believe

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Speaker 2: in the pressure of Game six like, I know it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a lazy narrative, like, oh, you know what

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Speaker 2: a game seven, but it's true. It's like it's these

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Speaker 2: mind bleeps that happened during a series, right, That's what

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Speaker 2: a series is, man Like, You're never truly comfortable unless

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Speaker 2: you're up three to zero. You're never truly comfortable, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: oh it's you know, oh my god, what happens. So

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Speaker 2: when I was a little kid, the Sixers and Celtics

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Speaker 2: had these epic series. The Sixers are up three to one,

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Speaker 2: and uh on the other side was Moses' rockets. So

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Speaker 2: and in the following year they did the same thing

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Speaker 2: and they blew a three on lead. It's three three.

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Speaker 2: They gotta go to Boston Garden for Game seven, and

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Speaker 2: everybody in the whole city counted them out like they're dead,

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Speaker 2: there's no way, and they won, right Like, so you know,

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Speaker 2: it does happen, but we know what that's going to

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Speaker 2: look like, what that's going to feel like, Like, could

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Speaker 2: I see the Nick's winning tonight and then Indiana going

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Speaker 2: to the Garden in a Game seven and somehow winning. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I could see it. But you and I

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Speaker 2: both know that once you're once you had that momentum

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Speaker 2: that is real and in the in this series that

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Speaker 2: Nicks are a creature of confidence, man, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: if they're feeling strong, like they just outwill you. And

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Speaker 2: they had that kind of way where they could they

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Speaker 2: So I think tonight it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 4: One thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I said, you know, I did the

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Speaker 3: same thing looking at it, saying, man, is it just

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Speaker 3: a lazy narrative? But I just can't escape it, like

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Speaker 3: there is a ken Indiana winning the Garden? Yes, but

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Speaker 3: does that just does everything feel different if it goes

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Speaker 3: back to a Game seven in the Garden, Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: absolutely does. Now should be noted for anyone that hasn't

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Speaker 3: seen this, the Pacers haven't lost back to back games

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Speaker 3: since March tenth. They didn't lose three straight games all season.

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Speaker 3: So do I still believe the Pacers control this series?

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Speaker 3: Heck yeah, but that's gonna be man. I expect the

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Speaker 3: Pacers to come out tonight with the thunder of the Gods.

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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because you mentioned the one variable on

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Speaker 3: this from the Knick side that I think is wildly frustrating,

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Speaker 3: and that's Karl Anthony town Oh yeah, We've talked about

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Speaker 3: it how many times, but like, yeah, sometimes it feels

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Speaker 3: just so easy that Yep, if Cat's on fire early

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Speaker 3: that game. And if he's not, they're not. Like it's

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Speaker 3: it is alarming, how up and down that level of

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Speaker 2: It's so funny. You said that one of our fine listeners,

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Speaker 2: Tasty Cake Dom, who's recovering from surgery, wish them well

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Speaker 2: just hit me up and go and said just what

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Speaker 2: you said with he's a great basketball guy. He said,

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Speaker 2: it's all about Kat. Brunzig will get his. But if

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Speaker 2: Kats get if Kat gets twenty five Nicks win, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, spot the lie. It's And what I

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Speaker 3: can't figure out is is that a defensive effort issue

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Speaker 3: from Indiana or is that an offensive output issue issue

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Speaker 3: from Karl Anthony Towns. Like this is this is why

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Speaker 3: Karl Anthony Towns is sort of where he is in

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Speaker 3: the lexicon of NBA players, because the greats bring the

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Speaker 3: greatest every single night, and that just hasn't been the

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Speaker 3: result for him. So I mean, that's that's just that's

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Speaker 3: a fact, right, So just figuring out how he settles

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Speaker 3: into this game and how Indiana takes him out of

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Speaker 3: this game, it's gonna be interesting. I also know, Anthony,

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Speaker 3: Like what Indian have twenty turnovers.

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Speaker 5: In the lot?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the two losses they had in this series, one

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Speaker 3: was their worst shooting percentage, the fewest threes that they've

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Speaker 3: taken in the fewest three that they've made all season.

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Speaker 3: And then they go into their next loss and it's

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Speaker 3: their worst offensive output with twenty turnovers that we've seen

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Speaker 3: all postseasons.

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Speaker 4: So, I mean, my god.

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Speaker 3: Like Indiana just they got to get out of their

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, getting back to towns. Like, I'll be honest

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Speaker 2: with you, I was shocked. Was a Game three, I

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Speaker 2: forget which game I was, where he was in foul

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Speaker 3: And frankly, the NBA playoffs have been so good that

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Speaker 4: Because it doesn't like it just it doesn't, you know.

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Speaker 2: Way now now you're right on it's either you got

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Speaker 2: gazy Well we'll get to take quick too. We'll come

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Speaker 2: I knew you would. I trust you. See you're you're

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Speaker 2: You're in man, You're always like I'm down. Let's have

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Speaker 3: old fastened country music and then uh, you know, party afterwards,

433
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to sit in that traffic for

434
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 3: five hours, so I might as well, like just go

435
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: sit in a bar somewhere, so you know, sit in

436
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 3: a bar.

437
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 4: But you know it'll be a good time.

438
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Ah too, that's awesome, that's that'd be great. Anyway to

439
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: get you on stage.

440
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: Now, So you know, I I shamelessly tried one of

441
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: my best friends in the world. Shout out to Derek Wells.

442
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: D Wells is the musical director for Post, so uh

443
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: you know I hit him off.

444
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 4: But no, no, no, no love there and I haven't yet.

445
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 3: While I have a ton of mutual friends with Jelly

446
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 3: Roll Jelly Rowland, I haven't actually connected on a personal

447
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: level yet, so you know, no, no, uh no inroads

448
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: to Jillette, but you don't know.

449
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: It'll happy.

450
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: There might be the opportunity to uh to make that

451
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: connection with Jelly tonight, so hopefully we get to hang.

452
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh that'll be good, all right, I like it. Will

453
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: you be at the Sphere at any point during the summer.

454
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to go to the Sphere to see the

455
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: Backstreet Boys because you know, we got buddies and Chesney's

456
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 3: playing it right now.

457
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 4: I've seen.

458
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: I figured I didn't know if you would do it

459
00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: with Chesney.

460
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 3: Now like I and Chesney's a really good visual performer,

461
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: so I it's it's a great show. I've heard incredible

462
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: things about it, but I'd already sort of earmarked this summer.

463
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 3: Try to get down to see the Backstreet Boys there.

464
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: I know they put a ton of work into that

465
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: that show. I just take me with you.

466
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 2: I will do anything. I'll drive, I don't care.

467
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: It's it's not a bad drive for you, right.

468
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: No, Like I'll drive, I'll go get you and then

469
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: we I'll drive you to there, like, I don't know,

470
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: just let me go.

471
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: Look if I if I end up going, I'll let

472
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: you know. Like Team Outing, right, Team Outing, we'll we'll explore,

473
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 3: explore the sphere.

474
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: Come on, Anthony, come into.

475
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: Bays Mark in a Backstreet Boys show?

476
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: Like sounds that sounds that sounds flawless. And would you

477
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 3: do that?

478
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: I do anything for the plus to hag with you guys.

479
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: I would. I would be in on anything. You know,

480
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: probably it probably difficult, but I would. I would do

481
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: anything with you guys. It sounds like fun. A friend

482
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: of mine sould you too at the Sphere and he

483
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: said it was incredible, just you know, just a unique,

484
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 2: unique experience. I didn't know if you would if you

485
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: knew Chesney and you might play it because that would

486
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: be interesting. I love to hear like if you were

487
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: playing like dude, I would go anywhere.

488
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: I would go to Chesney like like that, you know,

489
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: so but yeah, no, I don't. Yeah, Chesney and I

490
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: aren't like like that.

491
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 2: So uh not.

492
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: Not that there's any we just don't. We just don't

493
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: know each other on that level. But a bunch of

494
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: the guys in his band I've known forever, but you know,

495
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: Kenny himself, we aren't. We don't have that existing friendship.

496
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: So actually I would to go where where. Well, I

497
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: want to go where you play. When you sit in

498
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: and play Brie, and I'll go to watch you.

499
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: The next time I'm sitting in somewhere.

500
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: I'll give you that. You'll get the advanced head.

501
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, very we'll go. We gotta go see FITZI what do.

502
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: You done done?

503
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: I'll call in sick to all my jobs and we're there.

504
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: You know what sucks. It's one of the things that

505
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: I miss is going to shows I have. You know,

506
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: when you're a dad and you're constantly just doing stuff

507
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: like you just don't get to go to shows. Like

508
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: my buddy, he's got two grown kids.

509
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 5: Now.

510
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: We used to like we went to Metallica. I don't know,

511
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: it's a year is the Black album came out? Right, Like,

512
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: so it was a long time ago. And we went

513
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: to see him a couple of times during that tour,

514
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: and so they were just that looking financial field and

515
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: sure enough, like I get the video of him my

516
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: buddy Joe Ben and he's like, yo, bo, look where

517
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm at right now? Remember five years ago whatever? It

518
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: was black and blue marks punching each other, right, it was.

519
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: It was funny and it was like, oh damn, I

520
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: wish I forgot all about it. I would love to wet,

521
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: you know. But you know, I got a torn thement

522
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 2: every day, I got a sporting event every day.

523
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: Well, and not to mention the fact that, like just

524
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: the cost of going to these things.

525
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: Then there's that right, like then there's that yes exactly.

526
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 3: Like obviously I love going to concerts, but like if

527
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: I don't know somebody, and I like, look if if

528
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm up on up my own wallet, like it stings.

529
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: I there's a long like I'm gonna think for a

530
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 3: long time before I just say yes to a bunch

531
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: of these tickets. I'm going to a bunch of different

532
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: shows here and there this summer and just every time

533
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: I have to buy tickets to it. It just hurts

534
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: my soul a little bit that it has gotten this

535
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: financially out of control to just go see concert. Like

536
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: I'm I'm lucky that I didn't grow up in this

537
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: era because like coming from we didn't have those means,

538
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: Like there's no way my parents would have been able

539
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: to send me to concerts now like they did when

540
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: I was a kid, which is just a bummer for

541
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: you know, the future of concert goers.

542
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, it's the same way in sports, right,

543
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Like you know, we used to go. I can't tell

544
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: you how many games that we went to as a kid.

545
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: Last minute, Hey you want to go to the ball game.

546
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 2: Hey we're gonna see six is a you know, Jordan's intown. Hey, uh,

547
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: you know Gretzky's in town. Want to see the flyer flight?

548
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: You would go day of the game. Now, the Phillies

549
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: played the VET so it held sixty eight thousand people,

550
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: So there was always a ticket and it was cheap.

551
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: It was cheap. The whole thing was cheap. Like you

552
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: could go, you walk to the game. You you know,

553
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: we lived in the neighborhood at the time. So you

554
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: walk to the game and you go and you bring

555
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: food because back then you didn't you could bring your

556
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: food and you went and watched the game right like

557
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: you loved it, like you spent. We spayed, We shoued

558
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: to go there. Many times. My parents would take me,

559
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: like my mother and my aunt Cookie would take me

560
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: and my cousin and we would go Friday, Saturday, Sunday

561
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: like old weekend series. We go to you know, forty

562
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: games a year, easy just to go. Hey, want to

563
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: go to game? And that's what you can't do that

564
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: now you can't go to one of these games without

565
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: spending you know, four hundred dollars family of four forget

566
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: about it.

567
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is just I don't know, Like there's no

568
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: easy way to fix that. And I'm the first to

569
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: admit that I don't have a built in solution to

570
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: the pricing issue. But man, I just don't know what

571
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: happens to everybody at some point.

572
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: If you price out.

573
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: People from going to live events, then how do you

574
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: continue to grow. I just don't I don't know the

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: answer to that. And hell, like I we've talked about before,

576
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: Like I remember being a kid, like just basic math classes.

577
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: If you in high school, you eventually had to buy the.

578
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: Texas Instruments calculator, which my parents couldn't damn afford, like

579
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: the t I eighty one or whatever it was. Like,

580
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: So now I think about what it's like to just

581
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: have to have an iPad for your kid or a

582
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: computer for your kid in elementary school, and that stuff

583
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: is so wild to me. I just then on top

584
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: of it, you know, you want you want to have

585
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: these great memories going to sporting events with your kids,

586
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't know how you do that. Like if

587
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: you I have friends who live in Vegas and you

588
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: just think about what it's like to try and take

589
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: your family to a Raiders game, like it's it's almost impossible.

590
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: So you know, in good luck Titans fans, like when

591
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: that new stadium gets built in Nashville, it's going to

592
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: be the same thing there, like and its just it sucks.

593
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 3: It sucks that there's not there's not a solution that

594
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: I know of that helps keep these things in a

595
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: price point that is actually reasonable.

596
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you you got parking and you got concessions,

597
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: and concessions are just outrageous that other than Arthur Blank.

598
00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: Fact you very much, Arthur. The it's it's just crazy anymore.

599
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just to go get a hot

600
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: dog and a soda, like forget about a beer, and

601
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: you know other stuff like I took the kids to

602
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: the Phillies game the other day. Now I get the

603
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: tickets for nothing, right, So I took the kids to

604
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: the Phillies game a couple of weeks ago, and they

605
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: wanted that pizza, right the first of all, all right,

606
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: you know you pizza ball game. It's fine. And the

607
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: pizza is like a personal sized pizza, right, And it

608
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: was thirty dollars, Oh my god, thirty dollars a piece

609
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: CAUs a piece, you know, five dollars of water and

610
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: you know whatever. Actually it was eight dollars for water

611
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: or seven dollars. And then the soda was you know,

612
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: six dollars. Water costs more than a soda. I mean

613
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: it was insane. I mean, just it is what it is. Right,

614
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: then you want to go to New Jersey. That's that's

615
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: easily buck and a half. You know. The other thing

616
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: that's that's talking about gouging is a cat like you know,

617
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: you're fifty dollars dude, that's if that's if you get

618
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: it on sale, that's.

619
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: I don't that's wild to me.

620
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: At some point it really is going to price out

621
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: of the live experience and then you know, nobody will

622
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: care right now, but eventually it becomes a bit of

623
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: an issue, like you know, the stadiums do need to

624
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: be full, and you know, for how long have people

625
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: complained about the Super Bowl being a corporate vibe. That's eventually,

626
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: in my mind, going to be what ninety nine percent

627
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: of live sports are, because you're gonna have to be,

628
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: you know, some level of rich to get out there

629
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: and get into these arenas and stadiums.

630
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, but anyway, I just you brow up

631
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: the concert and it just goes hand in hand. Yeah, yeah,

632
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: just does with with sports. All right, let's let's uh,

633
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: let's get off for that. I want to I got

634
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: to talk with you, all right. We're gonna talk about

635
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament that looks to be expanding. We will

636
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: always get into football, that's always it. We are ninety

637
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: seven days away from the start of the NFL season.

638
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Ninety seven buddy, that's nothing, man, ninety seven days is nothing.

639
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: Hold your breath. It'll be here soon, so we'll talk

640
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 2: some football as we always do. We will get back

641
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: to the NBA playoffs at HL. We got it all ahead.

642
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,959
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643
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:41,320
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of

649
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: video highlights from all of our shows. And be sure

650
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: to subscribe so you always have instant access to our

651
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. That's right, Fitzy. Last

652
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: night Yankees Dodgers New York, LA greatest rivalry, you know,

653
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's perfect, great theater. Two of

654
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: the great baseball towns left. In fact, there's three cities

655
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: where baseball is still number one, and it would be LA,

656
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: New York, and Boston. And those would be the three

657
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: cities where baseball is still number one, maybe even Saint

658
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: Louis to some extent, But in those towns, baseball's number one,

659
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: and it's Yankees and Dodgers. It's the pre franchise. They're

660
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: head to head, it's Otani and Judge, and on a

661
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: night when it's Otani Judge, it's incredible. They both hitcomb runs.

662
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: Otani hits two of them. It's the biggest thing ever, right,

663
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: this big moment and these two dudes who could be

664
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: the two greatest baseball players hitters, offensive players ever. And

665
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: obviously we know what Otani can do with his arm,

666
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: but this is incredible theater. And I think it's underplayed,

667
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: Like I almost get frustrated by it.

668
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, part of the reason I feel like

669
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: it's underplayed is it's hard to find. Last night's game

670
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: was on Apple TV, and it was on stupid late

671
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: on the East Coast. So it's just I don't know

672
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: what the right answer is because everybody's got to go

673
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: get theirs. But to me, the right answer isn't When

674
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: I open up YouTube TV, which is what I use personally,

675
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 3: the game isn't even it's not even reflective that it's

676
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: on there. I didn't even know, Like, so to your point,

677
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, for me just kind of sitting around, not

678
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: as a baseball fanatic, The reason that I even knew

679
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 3: to turn on the game was because I saw people

680
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 3: tweeting about how do we not know that this game

681
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 3: is on right now? And I was like, oh, that's real.

682
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: Oh shoot, I'll check it out.

683
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: You got, you know, the two most marketable guys in

684
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: the sport.

685
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: Arguably they're up there with the two biggest brands in

686
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: the sport, and you stick it it late night and

687
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: you stick it on Apple TV. I just think that's stupid.

688
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: I realized again, I don't have answers for all this stuff,

689
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 3: but man, if you're trying to get the mes of

690
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: the world into watching, you don't put that game on

691
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: a place where the mes of the world won't even

692
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: know it's there unless we're opening a specialized app.

693
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that should have been Fox, right, Like

694
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: that should have been that should have been Fox all

695
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: day long. I mean yeah, and that's what.

696
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: You mentioned all day long too. That's something that like,

697
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: I don't think we always put enough weight in. Like

698
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: I used to say when I was on ESPN Radio frankly,

699
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: that the biggest function of ESPN Radio is an advertising

700
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: arm for everything that's on ESPN.

701
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: Like that's what we did.

702
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: So whatever game was going to be on, we were

703
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 3: talking about it, and you spend all day, Like, if

704
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: you are a person that has ESPN on in the

705
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: background of Fox Sports on all day in the background,

706
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: what are they doing, They're all they're all talking a

707
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: storyline over and over and over again.

708
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 4: That's just all of these.

709
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: Shows are regurgitating the same four or five big hits

710
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: and they're playing them over and over again, which is

711
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: which is what sports talk TV is, and it's great.

712
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: It also builds the hype all day for a matchup

713
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: of some sort. And I do think that sometimes what

714
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: happens when you're Major League Baseball and you don't really

715
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: have a major broadcast arm that spends that time talking

716
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: about it, the matchup isn't built up all day, like

717
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: in college football. By the time we get to Saturday,

718
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: you know whatever those matchups are. If you love college football,

719
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: you've seen it everywhere. In the NFL, they spend all

720
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: week just getting you ready for a matchup. Who's doing

721
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: that for baseball? So like, if you're not a baseball fan,

722
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: you also don't have all day of it being shoved

723
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: in your throat.

724
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god, look at this matchup. Look at this matchup,

725
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: and I think if you do.

726
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh that's genius.

727
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 4: I mean, just be real.

728
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: You're right, you're right, you're right. That's one of the

729
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: things that's missing, like it should have been all day Yesterday.

730
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Showdown, show Hay, Judge.

731
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the ultimate, you know, cong versus Godzilla.

732
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, are you kidding me? You know, it's

733
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: the New York It's La, It's Judge Otadi, two of

734
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: the most prolific home run hitters offensive hitters. I mean,

735
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: what they're doing is unreal, unprecedented, and they both go yard.

736
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: It's are you kidding me? It's you can't make this up?

737
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: And yet it goes without a whisper. Oh, you're right. No,

738
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: everybody should be bagging the drump for that. Everybody. I

739
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you know what steven A was talking

740
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: about yesterday or what first take was going on, I

741
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: don't know, but it should have been that.

742
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: When it's not their broadcast, they rarely do, and so

743
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, and it's baseball on top of that. So right,

744
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: you're right, it should have been that. But that's that's

745
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: one thing that baseball has gotta figure. That's what baseball's

746
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: got to find a way to have people yelling on

747
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: shows like first Take about why it's the epic thing

748
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: you have to watch.

749
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's dive in more interesting topic. Fellas on Fox.

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00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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00:39:54,120 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, good morning, Good morning buddy Abby, Fox Sports Saturday. Fellas,

752
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: you're sitting fits. I'm Anthony Gargana Fits the every week

753
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: right here, Fox Sports. Ready where the Fellas? Yo? Man, So,

754
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: Mike our coach you know, I coach baseball too, and uh,

755
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm like an assistant and our head coach is at

756
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: the field. You be getting rained like I have right

757
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. Oh yeah, nonsop non stop. Right, yeah, rain,

758
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: it's been the raining is spring. It's crazy. So we

759
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: have a tournament and they're out by the field and

760
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: it's our home tournament that we're hosting, and the baseball

761
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: field it's just it's it's mud. There's no way we

762
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: can play today. I don't know how we're gonna be

763
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: able to draw this out. It's a grass field. We

764
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: had flooding last night, like crazy rain and still rating.

765
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how we're gonna play. The coach just

766
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: sent videos like dude, this is the field and it's

767
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: just mud. Like you look at the infield. It's just mud.

768
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: I can't play that.

769
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: Do the kids Do the kids like playing in that?

770
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: Or is it just if we get adults.

771
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I want nothing to do with it. I

772
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: just didn't know if the kids were like, no, you

773
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: can't even at.

774
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: That age, like, you can't play that baseball. You can't

775
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: play that. It's just unplayable, you know, unless you know

776
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: these you know, some of these really wealthy areas have

777
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: these turf fields with dreaming systems, like almost like mini ballparks.

778
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: But let's you have that. You can't you just can't

779
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: play on a field that's like puddles and mud, like

780
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: the game just won't you can't play, you know, the

781
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: infield is filled with you know, the huge puddles, like,

782
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: you can't play that. So I don't know what they're

783
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: gonna do. You know, they probably we may have to

784
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: either cancel it or hope that by later in the

785
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: day it somehow dries and we could play, like, you know,

786
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: two or three o'clock.

787
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 5: I don't know.

788
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: I love the image of Anthony sitting there and being like, God,

789
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: I hope it's a rain day. I hope it's a

790
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: rain now day because I just would not want to

791
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: sit out in that. I just there's no way I

792
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to. There's no way.

793
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 4: You're a better man than I.

794
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I hate missing It's almost like

795
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: Stockholm syndrome where I look forward to it. We didn't

796
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: have a tournament last weekend, and I was like, I

797
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: missed it, and I think it's Stockholm syndrome. So let's

798
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: talk about baseball. You made, We're going to get into it.

799
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: In case you just joined us. We talked to that NBA.

800
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: If I will definitely get back to Nick's pages tonight,

801
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: it's definitely gonna be it. Well, we always have our

802
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: football hour two hours, if not for more. We got

803
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff to talk about. But it's Yankees

804
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: and Dodgers last night now. And this is a perfect

805
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: conversation for Fitzie because baseball is four on Fitzi's list.

806
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: If I'm correct, it would be football, hockey, hoops, baseball,

807
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Is that right?

808
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? I give I give it.

809
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a lifelong die hard Dodgers fan of like

810
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: three four or five months.

811
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: Well, they won the World Series.

812
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 8: That was cool like that, It's not as far as

813
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 8: I've got Yeah, and baseball is a distant four for

814
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: you too, Like it's it's football, like we all are right,

815
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 8: and then it's hoops, hockey hoops, and then way down

816
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 8: is baseball for you?

817
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: So like I love going to baseball games, I should qualify.

818
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 5: I just.

819
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: It's just hard for me to watch it. It's hard

820
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 3: for me to sit down and just get into a

821
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: baseball game that I don't have a huge root interesting.

822
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: So yes, like last night, last night was just Taylor

823
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: made for me. When you have Aaron Judge and Show

824
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: Hey taking each other on, and you have these two

825
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: brands taking each other on in this sort of as

826
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: a World Series rematch, all happening on a Friday night

827
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: where there's no NBA playoffs and there's no NHL playoffs

828
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: and there's no significant NFL news of any sort. Last

829
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: night was Taylor made from Major League Baseball to have

830
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 3: this huge impact on people like me.

831
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean amazingly it did not disappoint. Like

832
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: the game itself was incredible. I watched that game from

833
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: I actually looked forward to what n I know there

834
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 2: was no other playoff games which I actually thought would

835
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: work in its favor. But you're right, it was Apple TV,

836
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: and you had to seek it out. Now I knew

837
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: it was playing. I knew the game they were playing,

838
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: so I was writing and it was either but I'm

839
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: a little geek, right, so I was waiting for it.

840
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 2: The game was awesome. It was just ridiculous. Judge Homer's

841
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: in the first. Otani leads off the bottom of the

842
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: first with a home run, right like, are you kidding me?

843
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: Like it went bang, bang, the monsters go yard. It

844
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: was incredible, I mean, it really was. It was one

845
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: after another, and then the Dodgers come all the way back.

846
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: They're down five to two, and they come all the

847
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: way back and win it ate five.

848
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 7: It was.

849
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: It was great, just great baseball. I mean, I mean

850
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: it was everything. Those two players are so good they

851
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: may be the greatest canters I've ever seen. Like leading

852
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: up to it, I covered baseball as a writer for

853
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: some years and during my career, and I mean, you know,

854
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: I saw Bonds and I did the you know, the

855
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: juice home run derby between Sosen maguire and you know,

856
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: I don't care what anybody says about about the juice

857
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: and Heids, but Parry Bonds is the best hitter I've

858
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: seen in my lifetime. And I mean it's not even close.

859
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: I'm watching O'tinian Judge and it's not like guys who

860
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: aren't throwing one hundred and four right like they're throwing gas.

861
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: And these two dudes are unhittable. They're easily I know people,

862
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: especially old heads, they get very defensive about the game

863
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: itself from back in the day. Oh Tiny and Judge

864
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: are the two best hitters I've ever seen. I mean

865
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: bart Nne. You look at you know, the hot chart,

866
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: like if you see a player's hot chart, right his

867
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: is all shades of red. Every other mortal you'll see,

868
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: you know, like a red spot like over the plate,

869
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: and then you'll see like a pink spot a little

870
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: bit in and then there's a couple there's a deep

871
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: shades of blue where they're cold. No not Judge, Judge,

872
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: all read shades are red. O Tani same thing. These

873
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: two dudes are ridiculous and they're both about like Judges

874
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: a monster like it was a great athlete steal spaces.

875
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: Oh Tommy Pitches is working his way back from Tommy John.

876
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: These two dudes are the greatest we've ever seen play together.

877
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: So think about the.

878
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 3: If the NFL had yesterday a rematch of the Kansas

879
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles, right and within that

880
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: rematch of these two Super Bowl teams there was It

881
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: started with an eighty yard touchdown for Mahomes and then

882
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: an eighty yard touchdown for Saque and then the Chiefs

883
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: get out to a big lead and the Eagles battle back,

884
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: so you get this epic ending to the game. That

885
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: storyline in general would have been so hyped leading up

886
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: to the game and so hyped after the game that

887
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: it's all anybody would be talking about it. We captured

888
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: the entire conscious of this sports world, because that's what

889
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: happens when you essentially spend all day, all night obsessing

890
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: over these things, like the way the shows are run,

891
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: the way everything's done. That's the way it would happen

892
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL. The fact that all of that happened,

893
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 3: and much of it happened blind last night, is pretty

894
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: shocking to me.

895
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 4: And there are moments where you've got to look at

896
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: it and.

897
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: Say, Okay, what's our objective. Our objective is to take

898
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: non fans and make them fans, to take fans and

899
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: make them super fans. For every sport, that's the objective.

900
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: How you don't have an arm that can promote that

901
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: that's happening, an arm that's promoting the reaction to it,

902
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: and a way to make sure that every single TV

903
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 3: that's turned on all night is focused to it is

904
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: a huge loss because what you just described is everything

905
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 3: that was beautiful about last night, and it will take

906
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: everybody like me right back to where we were in

907
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 3: October watching this World Series matchup that was absolutely freaking incredible,

908
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 3: right like there was. I fell in love honestly with

909
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: everything in that World Series. It's first time that baseball

910
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 3: has truly captivated me. Didn't they have the opportunity last

911
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: night with the exact storyline you just broke down of

912
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: the way the game played out. Didn't they have the

913
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 3: opportunity to reconnect me to the sport? And if they did,

914
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 3: how the hell did they blow it?

915
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

916
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: Like that? Because that's.

917
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: It's huge.

918
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: It's those are opportunities when we talk about marketing your sport,

919
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: marketing your stars, that's what we're talking about. Like it

920
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: just that's such a fail from Major League Baseball to

921
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: allow that to happen behind essentially a curtain and closed

922
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: doors because nobody was paying attention the way they could

923
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 3: have and would have if it was just on Fox

924
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: at night.

925
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it nailed it. I mean, it's a World

926
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: Series rematch, it's the two great greatest players, and it

927
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: happens without any fanfare. It's unbelievable. You're right, it had

928
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: to be on Fox. You know, you nail did about

929
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: the Apple TV thing. You know, listen, like you're right

930
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: about generating revenue and that's all well and good, but

931
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: you're not at the point where NFL could go and say, yeah,

932
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna be on Roku. We're gonna be on uh

933
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: this through this new platform called the the the Fits,

934
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be on the Fits tonight and then

935
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: everybody in the free world's gonna find the Fits. Right.

936
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: They don't do that with baseball. They're not gonna go wait,

937
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: second games on Apple TV? Really, is it? Yeah? I'm

938
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: out right, Like that's the first thing that they're gonna

939
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're out You're not at the level of

940
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: where the NFL is where they'll find you no matter what.

941
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: And yeah, you're spot on, like that's where a Friday

942
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: night Fox game like that's where the networks still matter. Like,

943
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: I know, we live in a streaming world and I'm

944
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: a that's probably ninety percent of my viewing is streaming, right,

945
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: And you still got the network still matters for sports?

946
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: It just does. It still matters to sports. That's where

947
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Fox should have bit they missed it

948
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: a huge opportunity.

949
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 3: I love the way you said that though, because I

950
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: think we have to understand that the same rules don't

951
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: apply for everybody. Like whatever you do doesn't matter. The

952
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: same rules don't apply for everybody. So in music, if

953
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: you release a really bad song and it's your first

954
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: ever single, your career is dead in the water. If

955
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 3: you've had fifteen number ones, then you release a song

956
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: that's kind of crappy, the world wi't forgive that like

957
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: you've earned that. They will hunt you down. If you're

958
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: a brand new artist that nobody's ever heard of and

959
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: you put your music out, we're going to struggle to

960
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: get it hurt. But if you've had a long career,

961
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: you don't need that same level of luck like that.

962
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: That's just the way for sports ARC Radio. Like when

963
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: you first get into sports Ark Radio, you think, well,

964
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna do whatever I want. No, you can't, Like,

965
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you sort of have to

966
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 3: do and rules you have to follow before you can

967
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: get to the point that you can just sit back

968
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: and shoot the shot and everybody loves your personality.

969
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 4: They got to get to know you to have that happen.

970
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: Like, there's a process for everything. I think it's fair

971
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: to acknowledge that the NFL is far further along in

972
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: their process than any other sports. So if you are

973
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: the NFL and you say, you know what, we're going

974
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: to bury these games wherever we want, well, you can

975
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: chase the money because ultimately people will follow.

976
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: The great debate is that can you afford to do

977
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: that if you're Major League Baseball.

978
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: So when we talk about some of the broadcast splits

979
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: and the things that have happened for MLB in the

980
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: last year, I think one thing that we're forgetting is

981
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: that while most sports can come in and say, hey,

982
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: you need us as much as we need you, I

983
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: don't know that every sport can do that in every situation.

984
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: I genuinely believe that you know you you need. In

985
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: this situation, major League Baseball needed broadcast partners like ESPN

986
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: more than ESPN needs Major League Baseball. And it's just

987
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: it's just being honest. And I remember again when I

988
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: first started on radio at ESPN. At the time, I

989
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: remember there was some UFC thing that was coming up,

990
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: and we were talking about whether or not in our

991
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: production meeting, We're like, we're going to talk about this,

992
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 3: and at the time our boss has laughed and said,

993
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: my god, no, like at UFC, nobody listening really cares

994
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 3: about UFC. You don't need to talk about it.

995
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: It's like, okay.

996
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: Well, then ESPN signed.

997
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: A partnership deal with UFC like later that year, and

998
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: before like a week later, it was, hey, we want

999
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 3: you guys to start having Ariel Hawani every week as

1000
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 3: a guest to promote the UFC fights. Why because they

1001
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: had invested interest. So now UFC became a talking point

1002
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: like that's that's just real, you know. And so if

1003
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: you're Major League Baseball and you felt like you were

1004
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 3: being poorly treated in that process, you also have to

1005
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: acknowledge that every time you shut down an avenue, it

1006
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: just makes things tougher. So are casual fans gonna flock?

1007
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: Like I happen to have Apple TV, I already have it, right,

1008
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: So it's not like I have to turn around and

1009
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: pay for Apple TV. My god, if I had to

1010
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: pay for Apple TV, there's no way I was watching this. Like,

1011
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: There's not a chance in hell that I, as the

1012
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 3: non baseball fanatic, would turn around and say, you know what,

1013
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna subscribe to Apple TV just so I can

1014
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 3: watch the doc Honestly, chance.

1015
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm a huge baseball fan. I love baseball, right, I

1016
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. I mean I wouldn't. I mean, you

1017
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: know the only reason why, Like I did the ESPN Plus.

1018
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: It was early in the year I was was college football, right,

1019
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: but I caught by also at hockey Like ESPN plus.

1020
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: It was worth it, right because I got every game

1021
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: and I was able to, you know, justify it. But

1022
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: if I if I didn't want to, I have Apple

1023
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: TV because of the content, right, because of it shows.

1024
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't do it just for baseball. I mean,

1025
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: I just wouldn't. I mean, and I'm a huge baseball

1026
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: fan right like, but I wouldn't get another streaming service.

1027
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

1028
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: It pains me, dude, it really does. This sport's great.

1029
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: Like if I went through, like I could talk about

1030
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: this sport today and the players are awesome. Just some

1031
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: of the best players in my lifetime are playing today.

1032
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: Ellie day La Cruz from the Reds is one of

1033
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: the most exciting great players. And he's a great kid,

1034
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: great dude. He hits. He's a five tool guy, shortstop,

1035
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 2: hits for power. Don't let him get on base because

1036
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: they'll steal all day long. You got guys throwing gas,

1037
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: you know, just get making pitches fall off the table.

1038
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,959
Speaker 2: The other night to Reschooble, he ended a complete game.

1039
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: His last pitch in the ninth inning was one oh three. Like,

1040
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: there's great players. The sport is way better now. I mean, listen,

1041
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 2: I know people would argue with me, like of you know,

1042
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: old head people, and I get it's, you know whatever.

1043
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 2: But if I'm looking at objectively and I called the

1044
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: way I say it, you know that fitsy. I mean, honestly,

1045
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: I just look at it and go If I think

1046
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: the game is better in the day, I back up, dad,

1047
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: say it. I think the game's better now. The only

1048
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: thing that I think it misses it lacks is starting pitching,

1049
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: going deeper into games. But that's pitch counts.

1050
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: But that's it.

1051
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: Other than that the game itself. The game's awesome, It's

1052
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 2: a great sport. Players are great athletes are amazing baseball acumen.

1053
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: These kids are working, they know the game. They're not

1054
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: drinking beer you know, after games and partying, and they're

1055
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: like I covered baseball in the nineties, you know, I

1056
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: mean it was it was a different mentality. These dudes

1057
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: are working at their craft, they're prepared coming into it.

1058
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great game, and I feel like

1059
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: nobody cares.

1060
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think that hit home last night, particularly

1061
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 3: because of the hole in the calendar, you know, when

1062
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: you when you you look at it. Honestly, the fact

1063
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 3: that we didn't have a Stanley Cup playoff game, we

1064
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: didn't have an NBA playoff matchup, we didn't have any

1065
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: other distraction. And you have the two biggest but like

1066
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: we're not the world wasn't asking everybody to watch two

1067
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: random teams play like this. This wasn't two teams that

1068
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: maybe this wasn't it just happens to be that Kansas

1069
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: City and Cincinnati have the two best players in the sport,

1070
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: Like this wasn't that this is New York, LA. So

1071
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: all of those factors together that that that does feel,

1072
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: and the fact that it delivered such a huge beginning

1073
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 3: that frankly most people only heard about on Sports Center.

1074
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: That just feels like a miss it.

1075
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: It's mine. It was amazing. Is mind bogging to me

1076
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: that the sport is able to pay players what they

1077
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: pay players, because I just don't think MLB registers with

1078
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 2: you know, I'm in the middle of the travel ball

1079
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 2: kid circuit and you know, they watch it, but they

1080
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: consume it differently like they you know the kids today,

1081
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: will they watch it in pieces? So you know whatever,

1082
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: they do the same thing with the NBA. So I

1083
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: get it, But nobody else really feeling is watching this stuff.

1084
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: It's it's my boddling where the sport is. And I,

1085
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, like it bothers me. I don't think anybody

1086
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: really cares. Honestly, I really don't. You know. You look

1087
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: at you know that scene in Edmonton, like this is

1088
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 2: hockey right now. I get it's Edmonton, Okay, so before

1089
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: you tell me it's Verton, I get it. But you

1090
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: know that scene where they're out in the time in

1091
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: the square and they're watching the game and they're they're

1092
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: packed and they're freaking could you imagine that for baseball.

1093
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 4: No, I mean no, not at all.

1094
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean it's be October, right, Like, could you imagine

1095
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: October and they're all and there's scores of fans outside watching,

1096
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: you know, in La somewhere watching the Dodgers. That just

1097
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't say it.

1098
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: No, that's part of what makes the hockey fandom so

1099
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: specials are those block parties that happened during.

1100
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: The But they did it with the NBA like they

1101
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: used to do it in Toronto, the Great White North,

1102
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: you know.

1103
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: Like the world fell in love with the Raptors that year,

1104
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 3: not just because of the Raptors, but largely because of

1105
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 3: those scenes of what the.

1106
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: Great White and reason remember they called it Jurassic Park. Awesome.

1107
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 3: Part of the reason that there's a piece of me

1108
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: that just would love to see like the chaos lover

1109
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: and me wants to see Indiana take down the Knicks,

1110
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: but the lover of sports just loves the idea of

1111
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 3: watching New York go through an NBA finals like that

1112
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: would just be such an incredible scene from somebody that

1113
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 3: has no vested interest in it one way or the other.

1114
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: Just that would be mind blowingly cool. But you know,

1115
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: it's just to see those sorts of scenes that Kennedy

1116
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: gives us naturally all the time.

1117
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right. Anyway, I'm sorry I drove everybody

1118
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: down this baseball thing, but I just can't believe it.

1119
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: And Judge Otadi Judge Otadi and they both hit home

1120
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: runs and it's an epic it's a great ballgame, and

1121
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: it's a rematch. I mean, I'm like, I can't get anybody,

1122
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: even you, like, God bless you, like you're you're going along,

1123
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: You're like all right, like you know, it's good conversation.

1124
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: Let's move on, You're and that's exactly the appropriate way.

1125
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: But I'm just like blown away by it. And I

1126
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: guess that's just what it is. It's a it's a

1127
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: passe sport, and until they figure out the correct marketing strategy,

1128
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: it's always good. It's just passe and and it's that's

1129
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: what it is.

1130
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: I know, we gotta take a break.

1131
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 3: I have a thought on the pass portion of it,

1132
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 3: how it ties into everything else we're talking about.

1133
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: I'll just tease that.

1134
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I like it. I like it Fellas on Fox.

1135
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1136
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,600
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1137
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,800
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1138
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,800
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1139
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargana hanging out with you, getting

1140
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: ready for a little game six Indiana. Oh, there's gonna

1141
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: be a lot of tightness in Indianapolis today, a lot

1142
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: of nervous energy get ready for the game. And I

1143
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: but you had a thought because we were on this

1144
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: baseball thing. I'm kind of I have neurosis of the

1145
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: with all the baseball, the fact that this incredible matchup

1146
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: happened and nobody watched it. What's your thought?

1147
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't it also tie into what we started talking about

1148
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 3: with the difference in the feel of playoff basketball versus

1149
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 3: non playoff basketball. We sat we're talking about you just

1150
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: can't give a Tuesday or Thursday matchup tremendous meaning in

1151
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: a long season. I think it's probably pretty fair to

1152
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 3: say that I'm not sure you can do anything to

1153
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 3: make Major League Baseball mean something in the middle of

1154
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: the season, which is part of why the playoff expansion

1155
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 3: conversation always happens, right because we look at the fact

1156
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 3: that there is no meaning. If I'm being honest, a

1157
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 3: you know, Tuesday night matchup between the Panthers and the

1158
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: Oilers means nothing in the NHL, but a matchup next

1159
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: week is for the Stanley Cup. Like we all know that, right,

1160
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: So there is this element of you need bigger stakes

1161
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: to make it matter more. This all speaks to the

1162
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: fact that, of course baseball matters more in October because

1163
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: the games actually means something. Every single pitch means something.

1164
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: You can't bring that.

1165
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: Same meaning to what we're seeing in a regular season

1166
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: matchup just can't mean as much. So it's it's actually,

1167
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 3: while it feels lost, I would remind everybody that we

1168
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 3: felt like maybe the NBA was lost a few months

1169
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 3: ago in the middle of the regular season, and now

1170
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, that conversation is completely just because it's

1171
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: been an epic playoffs. So as long as we get

1172
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: these superstars, you know, hopefully in the World Series again,

1173
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: that's the real answer for Major League Baseball. I don't

1174
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: think this is a unique problem to baseball. I think

1175
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: this is a problem to everything not named football.

1176
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so yes, to a degree, I think you're right.

1177
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: But I could probably make the argument that a matchup

1178
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: of this elk. Remember it's not like the Dodgers and

1179
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: the Yankees play each other all the time, right, and

1180
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: you have this, so there's a uniqueness there. If this

1181
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: was a rematch between the NBA Finals Boston, I don't know,

1182
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: or go back a few years. It's Lebron and give

1183
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: me the give me the counter, right, it's the Lakers

1184
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: and whomever, right, and it's this the stars are going

1185
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: at it, like the two biggest stars in this sport

1186
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: are on stage and nobody cares. Like I get nobody

1187
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: really caring about you know, Phillies and Red Sox or whatever, Like,

1188
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: just give me two teams that are any good? All right,

1189
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: it's regular season. You know, nobody should care outside the

1190
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: local market. I get that, But this is the two

1191
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 2: greatest players in the sport and epic players like all time,

1192
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: Like we never see anything like Otani or Judge and

1193
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: nobody could watch it.

1194
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: Nobody watch You make a really fair point that it's

1195
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: I guess the first comp that comes to mind is

1196
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: when we get Lakers, or when we got Cleveland Golden

1197
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: State after Golden State came back from from down. Maybe

1198
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: you know, when you get Lebron versus Steph Curry, that

1199
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 3: is a landmark moment, Like if we end up with

1200
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: Indiana OKC. Then next year in the middle of the season,

1201
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 3: if we're getting you know, that same matchup again, if

1202
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: it's Alberton versus SGA for the first time since the championship,

1203
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna get some some pretty serious Yeah, I'll

1204
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: get probably pretty right about that. Yeah, you know, and

1205
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 3: and it's and those aren't the two best players in

1206
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: this sport, but the stars will certainly, you know, continue

1207
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: to make people gravitate towards it. So I think that

1208
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: is a fair fair point.

1209
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's my boggling is, in fact, is they delivered.

1210
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: What's my boggling right right? Otani hits one of his

1211
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: first in bat. I mean, Judge hits one top of

1212
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: the first, is first to bat, and Otani leads off

1213
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: the bottom of the inning with a home run. Are

1214
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Like they both came through with home runs.

1215
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: It's hard at a home run Like, it's not easy.

1216
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: And those two didn't the first inning back to back

1217
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: like lot, Like, that's what's so my boggling about it.

1218
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: They delivered. Like I guess I'm marveling more at the

1219
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 2: anomaly of the two greatest players in this sport who

1220
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 2: may be the greatest players ever to play the game

1221
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: or greatest hitters or we want to call it, and

1222
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: they both hit all broads like that's that's unbelievable, and

1223
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: like that should have broke the internet on a non

1224
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: playoff night.

1225
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: Mm yeah, no, you're right. That should have broke the internet.

1226
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: I aqueous to all of that, Like that should have

1227
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: absolutely that should have been the moment that the world

1228
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 3: stopped and everybody said, oh my god, you got it.

1229
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: Like this is what we all see if you're if

1230
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 3: you're scrolling Twitter x during a game half the time,

1231
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: especially like think about how often we see this during

1232
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 3: you know, college football whatever.

1233
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 4: It's like, flip over to this right now.

1234
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: This is epic, right, like and the number of times

1235
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, well, I wasn't watching this random Mountain

1236
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: West game, but everybody's tweeting about it, so I'm gonna

1237
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 3: go ahead and check it out. Like the consciousness was there.

1238
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: It is a very for a point that even that

1239
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: conversation didn't exist last night, Like I wasn't watching Twitter

1240
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 3: blow up and say, oh my god, home runs by

1241
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 3: both of them, Like the tweets that you would expect

1242
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 3: from that just weren't there, which is a reminder that

1243
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 3: the casual people that would create that conversation just weren't watching.

1244
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 5: They just weren't.

1245
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 2: Now, no, no, no, And that's it's that's why it's languishing.

1246
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, as much as we talk about the NBA

1247
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: and non football languishing. I mean, look, you know, the

1248
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 2: world's gonna be watching tonight, like we're everybody Nicks Pacers

1249
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: game six. Now you got the Knicks, so it's it's

1250
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 2: a big draw, I get it. But still, like this

1251
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: is kind of this is an interesting matchup people have.

1252
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, during the course of these of these playoffs,

1253
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 2: Sga is blossomed into a superstar, right, He's just true

1254
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: super people now know about sta it's just coming out party.

1255
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 2: Same thing for Halliburton. Now all of a sudden, that's

1256
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: on the line. Now, all of a sudden, cat who

1257
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: was a big name kind of fell a little bit

1258
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,520
Speaker 2: off the perch his back and like he's got an opportunity. Brunson,

1259
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 2: what a series he's had to you know, it's incredible,

1260
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: Like you could see people in sports world will be

1261
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: watching tonight.

1262
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, that's the beautiful thing that

1263
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 3: has happened for all the negativity in the way that

1264
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: we usually talk about problems with the NBA, and I

1265
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 3: think that's they're fair. What's happening right now is a

1266
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: great situation for the NBA in the sense that what

1267
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 3: you have are star building moments. Because we talked about

1268
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago, but realistically, legacies are

1269
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: made in the playoffs because that's when people pay attention.

1270
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: It doesn't it doesn't matter what Halliburton does in the

1271
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: regular season because most of us are not gonna sit down,

1272
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 3: stop everything we're doing to watch an Indiana Pacers game.

1273
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 3: That's just being honest, right, So you see little snippets,

1274
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 3: but you're not really consumed by it. During the playoffs,

1275
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: over and over every couple of nights, you're getting the

1276
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 3: opportunity to see these guys, and it does become a

1277
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: star making moment. So I believe that as much as

1278
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: we've talked about everybody's talked about well, you know, okay,

1279
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 3: see in Indiana this there was a period where people

1280
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 3: were looking around Saint Golden State like that's that's gonna

1281
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: be the team, Like hey, why not if you're okay, See,

1282
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 3: you got some young players growing up together in front

1283
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 3: of everybody.

1284
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: The people are falling in love with it.

1285
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 3: It feels reminiscent of a sweet sixteen run. And it's

1286
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 3: not it's number one, you know, it's it's the best

1287
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: team there in that conference, finally getting the attention that

1288
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 3: they deserve as the best team in the conference. So

1289
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: I do think that there's actually some great things about

1290
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 3: the way that it's built, in the sense that legacies

1291
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 3: are being made, stars are coming out to a higher level.

1292
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 3: We're seeing fans lose their minds in such emotional ways,

1293
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 3: and we're not talking for once about any of the

1294
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 3: other issues with the league.

1295
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 4: Like the playoff has been a.

1296
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: Massive, massive success for the NBA because it truly has

1297
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: shown hey.

1298
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 4: Like we get it.

1299
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 3: We're willing to sacrifice the entire regular season to be

1300
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: half asked as long as the playoffs come out great,

1301
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: that's what the league is depending on. And guess what

1302
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: this year, it's working. I mean, people are flocking to it.

1303
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: It is and that includes a huge hit that it

1304
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 2: took with Tatum. Right, Tatum is injury. I mean you

1305
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: could argue that, you know, if Tatum is healthy, Boston

1306
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: is probably in this.

1307
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: In the series, right, Yeah, probably, right, and I yes, and.

1308
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: Likely and likely going to play Nix right and likely

1309
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 2: going to play Okay, see, would have.

1310
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 3: Been a hell of a series. I'm not gonna right,

1311
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 3: that would have been a would have been a hell

1312
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 3: of a series. I'm not I'm not mad.

1313
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: At that right so so, but my point is is

1314
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 2: that the these playoffs survived a major hit, major hit

1315
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: that Tatum going down and the and the Celtics you know,

1316
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: getting knocked out. That to me is a big hit

1317
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: because I still think even though I hate the way

1318
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 2: they play with you know, shooting all the threes and

1319
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: everything else, I mean, I still thought they were the

1320
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: best team in the East. But you know, they go down,

1321
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: Tatum gets hurt, they get knocked out, and I think,

1322
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, listen to Indiana and the Knicks have stepped

1323
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: up and it's fun and it's good ball.

1324
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's the scene of Madison Square Garden combined

1325
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 3: with everything else is just such a powerful one that

1326
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: it's you get this great moment because I'll go back

1327
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: to eighties wrestling where they always say you got to

1328
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 3: have like somebody has to put you over. So for

1329
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 3: hull Cogan to become hul Cogan, he has to body

1330
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: slam Andre the Giant. Right for Indiana to really get

1331
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 3: over on the entire NBA world, getting through Madison Square

1332
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: Garden is a great way to do that, right, Like

1333
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: it's Golden State taking down Lebron as part of the

1334
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: legacy that really catapulted Golden State. Like that's the beautiful

1335
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: thing that's happening in the way that it's all broken down,

1336
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 3: is that you get this crazy energy from fan bases

1337
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 3: that haven't been there in a really long time, that

1338
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: have like a passion, Like the scene in Indiana tonight.

1339
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: We haven't even talked about that, but like the scene

1340
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 3: in Indiana tonight is going to be epic, And I

1341
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 3: think people forgot how great Indiana can be as a

1342
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: basketball community, and this has just been such an eye

1343
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 3: opening reminder. Like those are the things that I think

1344
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 3: become really incredible by specifically taking down presuming they do

1345
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: taking down the Knicks, but being in this battle with

1346
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 3: the Knicks has brought so much more attention to it

1347
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: because of.

1348
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: The it's you know, small town versus the big city.

1349
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's the closest thing you'll get the

1350
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: Hoosiers in the NBA. Yeah, The biggest star in Indianapolis

1351
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: is Pat McAfee, right, Compared the celebrity row in Manhattan.

1352
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 3: It's it's macaface world.

1353
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: We're just living in a brother God bless him. He

1354
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: was great the other night. To look.

1355
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: What he's doing.

1356
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: He's great at that stuff.

1357
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 5: He is.

1358
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 2: He's awesome. I love him. I think he's great. He

1359
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: really is. Anyway, Uh, lots to get to coming up.

1360
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: Expansion this year in the tournament? Is that possible? We're

1361
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: the Fellas right here Fox Sports Radio Fellas Jason fits anthing.

1362
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: So FITZI, I'm curious. Do you like this expansion in

1363
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: the NCLE tournament. They're talking about going this seventy two

1364
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: or seventy six teams as early as next season. The

1365
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 2: decisions good expected with him probably by early summer, right,

1366
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: Good about another month or so, a couple months and

1367
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 2: you're looking. It's getting a lot of steam. They're talking

1368
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: to all the streamers because you know what's going to happen.

1369
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,480
Speaker 2: You gotta get that streaming money. Do you like expansion

1370
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 2: in the tournament?

1371
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: I dislike so much of this, and it just what

1372
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: I dislike about it is the conversation that eliminates and

1373
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: So to me, every time you expand understand what you're

1374
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: gaining versus what you're taking away. And I understand that

1375
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 3: more March Madness games means more attention because we all

1376
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: know that that's what people pay attention to. We've been

1377
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: talking a lot about that people pay more attention to

1378
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1379
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 4: That's fine. What you do though, in this expansion process is.

1380
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 3: You take away a ton of the drama that's already

1381
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 3: been sort of watered down in conference tournaments, right, I mean,

1382
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 3: at that point, so many teams are getting in. How

1383
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: much is there in the last two weeks of the

1384
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 3: season when doing bubble Watch? Are we really going to

1385
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 3: be doing bubble watch for that many teams? I would

1386
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: argue no. In fact, this year it was pretty hard,

1387
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 3: I think, to find a compelling reason to get super

1388
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: worked up over who didn't make the tournament. It'll be

1389
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: even worse in an expansion world. So in the sense

1390
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 3: that people will watch it, sure, in the sense of

1391
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: it just makes it makes the last two weeks, which

1392
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 3: is really the most meaningful part of the college basketball

1393
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 3: regular season. It makes the last two weeks even more meaningless.

1394
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 3: So I think what they eliminate is a ton of

1395
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 3: the conversation, you know, and for everyone that wants automatic

1396
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 3: bids across the board for everything in college football, I

1397
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: would argue the same thing, like, it's hard for college

1398
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 3: football in the fall to really cut through. But what

1399
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 3: we do talk about once the rankings committee has started.

1400
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: Every Tuesday and Wednesday, people are obsessing over how the

1401
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 3: rankings Committee is going to rank all of these teams

1402
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 3: because it matters. And what that does is it creates

1403
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 3: midweek conversation about college football that otherwise wouldn't exist.

1404
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: I like that.

1405
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: I think it's important for the sport for conversation to

1406
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 3: continue to bring storylines and narratives like we've talked about

1407
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 3: with other sports. So I think you lose a lot

1408
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: of that with the expansion of the tournament.

1409
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you almost turned it into the NBA playoffs,

1410
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: right where the regular season really won't matter. Nobody it

1411
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: already gets it already starts way too soon, right like

1412
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 2: it starts in October, and but nobody cares. You're in

1413
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: the middle of football, You're winding down with the baseball playoffs.

1414
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 2: The NBA and then the NHL are starting their seasons.

1415
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: Nobody's looking at December nobody's looking for college basketball even

1416
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: in December when it gets starts to get a little

1417
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: bit more pronounced. Now with the way college football is

1418
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: that they're going to own that month in the NFL,

1419
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: it'll get lost. It gets lost now the regular season

1420
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: and people don't pay attached it until after the Super Bowl.

1421
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,480
Speaker 2: So now when you just added love a tier of playoffs,

1422
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: it what of the tournament? They're really just gonna look

1423
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: at it all right, Well, you know these are the

1424
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: teams that are in.

1425
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes everything sort of just not matter,

1426
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 3: you know. And that's again, it's if the only thing

1427
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 3: you're capable of marketing is your tournament, then I'll give

1428
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 3: you some some leeway on that, But man, of all

1429
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: the ways to make your sport matter more in October November,

1430
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 3: it doesn't accomplish that. So it will give them more

1431
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 3: money from the streaming services, but it will dilute the

1432
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 3: money they're getting from the other partners.

1433
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, I don't know. I don't know what

1434
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 2: do you do for they like, what do you do

1435
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: is they're going to just gonna be another It's still

1436
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 2: going to be the Thursday Friday first round. They just

1437
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: add the games during the day or do they now break.

1438
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 3: It up more play in games.

1439
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: Go Yeah, where the fellas, We'll talk about it. Fox

1440
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

1441
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1442
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

1443
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: good morning, everybody. Abby Abby, Abby, Uh, last day of May,

1444
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: May thirty first today, and that uh something we're gonna

1445
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: talk about this hour because the countdown is on ninety

1446
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 2: seven days until football nine to seven under a hundred.

1447
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: We're in double digits now. Jason fitz Anthony guar I

1448
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 2: got up fellas with you. You know, we get a

1449
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: little bit more, a little more pep when we're talking

1450
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: about the National Football League college football ninety seven days, FITZI.

1451
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 4: It feels like that's kind of wild.

1452
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, the amount of attention we're going to

1453
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: start paying to everything, especially with Aaron Rodgers just sort

1454
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 3: of dangling over the football consciousness. The amount of time

1455
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: we're going to spend getting ready for OTA or getting

1456
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 3: ready for training camp is going to be absolutely crazy.

1457
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 3: And you see it from fans, the explosion of OTA overreactions.

1458
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 3: You know, this quarterback that we touchdown, so the Giants

1459
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: fans were wildly pleased because Jackson Dart had a good

1460
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 3: OTA practice and Raiders fans were losing their minds because

1461
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 3: Gino threw a couple of picks in OTA practice, and

1462
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 3: it's like, what.

1463
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: Are we doing?

1464
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 3: That's we're so starved that we're reading every single report

1465
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 3: from every single reporter that we even remotely like, just

1466
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: to yell about their coverage of our favorite team. So

1467
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: just remember that when we're all sitting here saying that

1468
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: a particular weekend of action sucks in the middle of September,

1469
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 3: that we're so damn thirsty for it, it doesn't matter.

1470
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: Well, you're so right, Like, you know, we're breaking down

1471
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: OTAs OTAs it is because we're starved. It's amazing to

1472
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 2: me that we're bringing down a safe you know, training

1473
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: camp doesn't matter when it comes to guys throwing picks

1474
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 2: and you know, the whole thing. Let alone, you know,

1475
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: when you're truly in shorts and he really is seven

1476
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: on seven, Like you know, come on, man, you know

1477
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: I get it too. I love talking about it. But

1478
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: like you can't be worried about your quarterback. You can't

1479
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: be or you can't be fumping your chest about Jackson

1480
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: Dart like all right, Like maybe the kill complay whenever

1481
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: you're not gonna know anything for a long time.

1482
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 3: Hell, go back to last season, in the first couple

1483
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: of weeks, like when bow Knicks was throwing everything basically

1484
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage and everybody was laughing about it.

1485
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, for the first month and a half of

1486
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 3: the season, people were actually questioning whether he was going

1487
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: to be allowed to push the ball down the field

1488
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: at all. And then think about where those guys were

1489
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,839
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, like it's such an evolution.

1490
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: It's a slow and low game. But nobody wants to

1491
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: hear that right now. I mean, if you can't be

1492
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 3: excited about your favorite team right now, then the hell

1493
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: are you doing? Because my god, they'll prove most of

1494
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 3: us wrong by the third week in September, so you

1495
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: might as well enjoy it now while you have it.

1496
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: But it is wild how much we just obsess over

1497
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 3: every single angle of all of it. And it makes

1498
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: me wonder, like I don't even remember from when I

1499
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: was again, I remember when I was a little kid,

1500
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 3: little like elementary school. I decided one day, and because

1501
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 3: I love football so much, I was going to write

1502
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: my own Football Preview magazine, and I quickly.

1503
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 4: Realized back then, like I didn't have any The.

1504
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: Internet didn't even exist when I was a kid, so

1505
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: the concept of googling things didn't exist. What do we

1506
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: do back then when season ended, you know, at the

1507
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: beginning of January and you had nothing until August. It

1508
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 3: just there had to be a time when we found

1509
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 3: other ways to occupy it, because we just couldn't do

1510
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 3: this back then. And now it's every single day we're

1511
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 3: wanting and reading and walking to content on our favorite team.

1512
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 2: And I and I have this conversation with my buddies

1513
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: and we talk about all the time, like we love

1514
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 2: all you know, we're we love all of our sports. Right.

1515
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 2: But my buddy Boo, who's a huge coop guy, huge

1516
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 2: oop guy, but he's like, dude, he goes, you know,

1517
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 2: he goes, the only thing that truly makes me happy

1518
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: is football. It's see, you know, the only thing that

1519
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 2: truly makes me happy is football. And it's bizarre how

1520
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: they how it's evolved like that, because you're right, like

1521
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 2: when we were kids, you know, it was you know,

1522
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: baseball was a big deal, which it's already said now

1523
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: it's not the NBA playoffs and NHL players were way bigger.

1524
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 2: The you know, every all the other sports were big.

1525
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: The only one that.

1526
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 3: Remember Wimbledon coming on and you'll be like, oh, it's

1527
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: Wimbledon this week, We're going to watch that.

1528
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,440
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, but maybe because.

1529
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 3: We didn't have as many channels, as many options as

1530
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: many other things, and it was just like, all right,

1531
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: Wimbledon's on, and that's the sport that's on, so I'm

1532
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: going to watch it because it's that are soap operas

1533
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 3: in the middle of the summer, Like I'm not now

1534
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 3: watching that.

1535
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 4: Like streaming didn't occupy so much of our mindset.

1536
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: Dude, you were sure what about tennis? Like I didn't

1537
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 2: know who the number one they were touring with, the

1538
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: number one center, the number one player in the men's circuit,

1539
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 2: and I didn't know. I didn't know who. We had

1540
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 2: no idea who it is.

1541
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 3: I know, like now, in fairness, I will acknowledge growing

1542
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: up as a little kid in Vegas during the peak

1543
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 3: of Andre Agassi, maybe that made tennis feel a little bit.

1544
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 4: I'm willing to acknowledge that, y'all. But like there just

1545
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: was a moment, like the.

1546
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 3: Wide world of sports on Saturday was something you tuned

1547
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: in to watch because that was the closest you got to,

1548
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: you know, something sports related to watch on the weekend

1549
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 3: during so much of the year, it's things like boxing

1550
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: could matter then because there was nothing else to take

1551
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: your attention away. It is interesting that as we got

1552
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: more options to watch more things, we stopped paying attention

1553
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 3: to more things and focused on less things. It's it's

1554
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 3: kind of crazy to me that, you know, competition might

1555
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: be part of why we don't watch that stuff as much,

1556
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 3: like there's more things competing with our eyeballs. But at

1557
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 3: the same time, my god, the NFL wins that competition

1558
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 3: every single week and every week as somebody that loves

1559
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: the sport, I don't know why, ud.

1560
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's because And it's funny because you know,

1561
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: look at the draft, like the draft wasn't as big

1562
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 2: back then, right like the season was over, the season

1563
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 2: was over, the like you know, we liked it or whatever,

1564
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 2: we were nerds.

1565
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 3: Well, my friends made fun of me in the nineties

1566
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: for sitting around watching the draft not stuffing, dude, what

1567
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: are you doing? And I got made fun of for

1568
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 3: and now like that's.

1569
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: All anybody does yes, it is.

1570
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: It's crazy like we loved it, man, we we I

1571
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: don't know, but you're right, nobody else did. It wasn't

1572
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: a big deal the NFL, the schedule. Somebody was this

1573
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: is over the course of my professional life on the air,

1574
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: somebody was brought this up to me that when the

1575
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 2: schedule this is like the you know, mid too early,

1576
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: like the aughts, like two thousand and five, six seven, whatever.

1577
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: I would The Eagles PR guy was a buddy of mine.

1578
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: He'd sent me the schedule and I would announce it

1579
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: on the air. Oh I got this schedule. Oh my god,

1580
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 2: here we go, September fifth, Eagles cowboy and I would

1581
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 2: do it and I would, and he would just give

1582
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 2: it to me. Nobody else like it didn't matter. Then

1583
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: in the team. I guess it was the teens that

1584
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: started to matter a little bit. And now you know,

1585
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: there's the embargo and it's the big show and the

1586
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: schedule break. But I mean, you're talking like ten years ago.

1587
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 6: It wasn't like that.

1588
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 3: It's so funny to me, and this sounds to a

1589
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 3: lot of people like such an old man conversation. But

1590
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: I remember distinctly as a child when my mom would

1591
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 3: go to the grocery store. Once it was August, the

1592
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 3: magazine NFL preview magazines would come out, so my mom

1593
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 3: would literally just park me in the magazine aisle of

1594
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 3: the store, because you could do that back then, and

1595
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: I would sit there and flock through every and every

1596
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 3: once in a while employee would come by me, like

1597
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: it's not the library, right, they'd yell at you for

1598
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 3: doing it. But that was the first shot I had,

1599
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 3: most of the time at actually seeing the Raiders' schedule

1600
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 3: is a kid, especially once we moved out of Vegas,

1601
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 3: once we were on the East Coast, I wasn't getting

1602
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 3: that coverage anywhere, right. And again, you can't remind people

1603
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: loud enough that this feels weird now that we have

1604
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 3: technology in our hands every second. But you just when

1605
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,759
Speaker 3: I was a kid, there was no such thing as googling,

1606
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,480
Speaker 3: so that didn't exist. So you waited for the magazines

1607
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 3: to come out. You flocked to them, you ran to them,

1608
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: you looked at it, and you wrote to W and

1609
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 3: the l next to everything like that was the first

1610
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 3: time you got to play the schedule game. You had

1611
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: to wait all the way until August to do that.

1612
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: And now it's geez, it's parallel universe, parallel lives. That's

1613
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: funny and like you're.

1614
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 3: A million times like imagine for everybody. I used to

1615
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: walk to the store, the corner store, down to the

1616
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 3: end of the block to get a USA Today on

1617
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 3: Fridays because there'd be a ride up on the Raiders

1618
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: game for the weekend. And on Monday I would go

1619
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,720
Speaker 3: there first and before school, before the school bus, I

1620
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: would always go down pick up the USA Today because

1621
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 3: there might be a ride up on it. And that

1622
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 3: was the only way you could actually know what happened

1623
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 3: other than we didn't. We didn't have the money for cable,

1624
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: so a lot of times I couldn't watch NFL Primetime.

1625
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 3: That was it, so like I wasn't seeing highlights for days.

1626
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 3: I was waiting for the George Michael Sports machine. We've

1627
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: gone from that world to a world where now somebody

1628
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 3: drops a pass in an Ota and it gets tweeted

1629
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 3: out by twenty five reporters. I guess it's crazy the

1630
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 3: amount of information about our favorite teams that has changed

1631
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 3: so much in the last thirty years.

1632
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: So it is right, but what it doesn't explain is

1633
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 2: how we've become more football obsessed. That's like because theoretically now,

1634
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, like you it works with everything,

1635
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:30,759
Speaker 2: with everything, And the fact is that you can watch

1636
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: any game at any point, Like you can watch every

1637
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: game game literally, games that already go watch every night.

1638
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: But you'd rather watch you know, you'd rather know more

1639
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,640
Speaker 2: about OTAs than care about an actual game itself of

1640
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 2: another sport. Why is that?

1641
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't, Man, this is the most difficult thing for

1642
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: me to try and figure out. For years, I've tried

1643
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: to figure out why are we more drawn to drama

1644
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 3: in the off season of the NBA typically than we

1645
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: are with the actual games that will happen in the NBA.

1646
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 3: Like the number of times, and I have a guilty

1647
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 3: of this, I'll throw myself right on the scord, the

1648
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: number of times I've been on national radio in the

1649
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 3: middle of the NBA playoffs talking about the upcoming free agency,

1650
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 3: Like we did that until a couple of years ago,

1651
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 3: because the free agents were the sex of your story

1652
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. And so I don't

1653
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:31,639
Speaker 3: know when we became more into more drawn to drama

1654
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: for certain sports around the game than the actual games themselves.

1655
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 3: But that kind of feels like what happened. And I

1656
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 3: don't know when that transformation happens. But the minute you're

1657
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 3: more worried about who's playing where than you are how

1658
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: they're actually playing in the games, I don't know how

1659
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 3: you bring that back. And man, I don't know because

1660
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 3: it was tough when I was a kid to find

1661
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: Raiders games. If we're being honest, right, like you have

1662
01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 3: to wait for the ten minute ticker on NBC to

1663
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 3: tell you this, Gordon, if they weren't on TV, that

1664
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 3: we you just didn't see them. My Sunday ticket didn't

1665
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 3: even exist. So how is it that over the process.

1666
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Now it's easier than ever to follow your favorite team

1667
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 3: in every single sport. Yet that process is, for whatever reason,

1668
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 3: drawing people more to the NFL and less to some

1669
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 3: of the other sports. It's interesting.

1670
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know college too, because college is I'm

1671
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: seeing it more and more too, now that there's a

1672
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: real playoff, and you know, that's blowing up, you know,

1673
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 2: the whole Aniol world. And I don't know if it's

1674
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 2: just because I'm in the middle of it that I

1675
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 2: just think it's it's awesome, but it's it's football. Because

1676
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:45,600
Speaker 2: back to football, we are obsessed with it. I know

1677
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I am like I am, like I've told you about

1678
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 2: my buddy Boo, but I feeling the same way, like

1679
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm the first thing I can do is start the

1680
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: one hundred days of football one hundred days countdown and

1681
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 2: we're ninety seven, and I'm like, oh, this is all

1682
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: awesome because now you know the beauty is I would

1683
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: always I don't know how you would do this like

1684
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 2: I would always do my I try to time vacations

1685
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: and something just to get through this summer so I

1686
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: could get to my happy place. That's it's bizarre.

1687
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 3: It's part of the bummer. I think, if we're being

1688
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,879
Speaker 3: honest about the fact that the NBA pulled their schedule

1689
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 3: back to where it used to be, Like I really

1690
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 3: hoped after the shortened season with COVID and they moved

1691
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 3: the whole calendar. I hoped that the NBA would keep

1692
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 3: the delayed calendar because we had NBA playoffs going all

1693
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 3: the way into September. I wish that the NBA Finals

1694
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: were time to be mid August. Like I just because

1695
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 3: we've we've had the whole summer, so I say the

1696
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 3: whole summer. It's not even June it feels like it is.

1697
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 3: We've had the last what month of obsession over these

1698
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 3: NBA playoffs. I wish it was all pushed back a

1699
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: month so that right now we were in July getting

1700
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 3: towards the NBA Finals and getting towards I realized that

1701
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 3: hockey being, you know, an ice sport, makes it more

1702
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 3: difficult to delay.

1703
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 4: But I wish that these sports.

1704
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Took more advantage of the summer that they have, because

1705
01:33:22,080 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: it's been a welcome distraction, if I'm being honest, to

1706
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 3: the delay in the calendar that it takes to to

1707
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 3: get to the NFL season, and that's sounds horrible to reduce.

1708
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 4: Their playoff to that.

1709
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 3: But I think part of the reason it's been nice

1710
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 3: and we've paid so much attention is there has been

1711
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 3: no football news post draft that's been worthy of taking

1712
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 3: it over.

1713
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you're right. Stefan Diggs the closest thing to it.

1714
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stefan Diggs out there willing nilly with cameras everywhere

1715
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 3: is interesting. I mean, like there wasn't a spot, dude,

1716
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 3: where you were like everybody puts cameras away, Like just

1717
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 3: put your cameras away. That the sneezy request to have Hey, Hey,

1718
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 3: I'm I'm somebody puts your cameras away.

1719
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 2: That's bad, that's just lots of that's all. You're right.

1720
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: I love that. I'm not asking him not to pass

1721
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,840
Speaker 3: out drugs. I'm asking not to be filmed while I

1722
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 3: was like, the bare minimum here is just don't get

1723
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 3: filmed while you're doing it, dude.

1724
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: Right right, right, right, yeah, don't be stupid, you know.

1725
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 2: Or if you're the you're a prime minister, you might

1726
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 2: want to put the bag of coke down too, you

1727
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1728
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 3: You think, I just it's amazing how that's a difficult concept.

1729
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,839
Speaker 2: It really is. The people are just it's it's my boggling,

1730
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: it really is. It's completely mind boggling. Let me ask

1731
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: you real quick because I need to I need closure

1732
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 2: on this. And then we're going to get back to

1733
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: really to to football and uh we'll spend the last

1734
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 2: time we're talking about the game six tonight and uh,

1735
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 2: patients next. But what is the like, what do you

1736
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,560
Speaker 2: think they do with the tournament schedule? If they go

1737
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 2: to seventy sixteens? What do you do you make it?

1738
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 2: What you do four days? You're not gonna do plans

1739
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,679
Speaker 2: because you were just adding that you're adding a whole

1740
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: other tier, right, So instead of Thursday Friday, you do

1741
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 2: what Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

1742
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet that they start, you know, because they

1743
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: we get the bracket on Sunday selection Sunday. I bet

1744
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: Monday is your day to fill your brackets out and

1745
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 3: Tuesday it starts. And like, the crazy part about.

1746
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:42,840
Speaker 4: That is you might get it.

1747
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of that feels rushed.

1748
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 4: Quick turn on. Yeah, I mean, and let's be honest.

1749
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: Part of the reason you're doing this is to capture

1750
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 3: more attention, more money, more eyeballs. But also your partners

1751
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: that appreciate the gambling aspect of it want to make

1752
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 3: sure that that gets captured also, So you got to

1753
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 3: give people a little bit of time.

1754
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do it because you might

1755
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: have to push everything back. I don't know, because you

1756
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: and you're.

1757
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: Gonna get so many slaughters I mean just yeah, slaughter

1758
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 3: after slaughter after slaughter in this.

1759
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 4: Process, and like that. That's fine.

1760
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 3: Let's just be honest about it. You're gonna get so

1761
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 3: many slaughters.

1762
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question, do you do

1763
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 2: you so you have your whole like you normally do

1764
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 2: your you know, conference tournaments, your big conference tournaments. Who's

1765
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 2: like big tens on Sunday right on selection Sunday. Do

1766
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 2: you move selections Sunday to like Tuesday and have it

1767
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 2: as a prime time special?

1768
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 4: I mean it works.

1769
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 3: Tuesday certainly works for them for the rankings, rankings and

1770
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 3: the comment and.

1771
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 2: Then you start the tournament the following Tuesday. I just

1772
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: don't know your wait a whole week, but if you're

1773
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 2: gonna have all those teams or do you start.

1774
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 3: For those teams too?

1775
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 5: Right?

1776
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 7: Like?

1777
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 3: How you can't?

1778
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: You can't? How you turn around? You go from Sunday

1779
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 2: to Tuesday? You gotta travel?

1780
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right, Like I don't think you can.

1781
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 3: You're you're one thousand percent right, Like it's gonna you need.

1782
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 3: I don't think they can change the start date of

1783
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 3: the tournament, so they're gonna have to push everything back

1784
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 3: some other way, you know. I mean, do they end

1785
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 3: up still starting the same way and then adding instead

1786
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: of making it whatever Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, do they

1787
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 3: make it Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and then

1788
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 3: take their.

1789
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: Break that's a good thought. That's actually a better fault.

1790
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:50,799
Speaker 2: I would go with you that Monday.

1791
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I don't think you're gonna

1792
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 3: have much choice, and then you're gonna have.

1793
01:37:55,200 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 2: To Yeah, yeah, all right. Anyway, that's an stick ken

1794
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 2: under if you're gonna do that. All right, let's get

1795
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 2: back to OTA's little NFL stuff coming out next. Where

1796
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,639
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1797
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01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,640
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1813
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 2: us do us a solid there, So let me start

1814
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:17,200
Speaker 2: with the quarterback discussion. Well, I want to take a

1815
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: different route. There's talking Philadelphia. Now. I had a debate

1816
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,560
Speaker 2: yesterday with the guy with my man who covers the

1817
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 2: Eagles for our network, my buddy Zach Berman, who's terrific

1818
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,560
Speaker 2: at it. But we had a debate about what the

1819
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Eagles offense will be. And let me this is part

1820
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: of a bigger picture that that has to do with

1821
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. So the Eagles, obviously Kellen Moore went

1822
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 2: to coach the Saints. They're now looking for their priest.

1823
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: This will be their fourth OC right in four years.

1824
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Pittullo is the Eagles new offensive coordinator. He's been

1825
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:01,040
Speaker 2: with the team for a while, but they have gone

1826
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: through coordinators, right, that's what happens.

1827
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 3: You win.

1828
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 2: Shane Steichen when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl

1829
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs and lost a few years back, he

1830
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: got the job in Kiandsas in the Indianapolis. Then there

1831
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: was a failed experiment with Brian Johnson as the offense coordinator.

1832
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: It comes Kellen Moore. He gets everything situated and then

1833
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 2: gets the job in New Orleans. So the talk with

1834
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: the new with Kevin Patullo is, hey, you know remember

1835
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 2: when you were when the last time the inexperienced OC

1836
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:41,040
Speaker 2: took over. What happened? The offense languist, right, They even

1837
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,560
Speaker 2: though they started ten to one, they went into a tailspin.

1838
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 2: And the Eagles want to losing, right so, and the

1839
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 2: offense was a problem. So there is talk about because

1840
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: the team's caught up to that they were running all

1841
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: at zone read stuff. Teams figured a way to defend them.

1842
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: So the talk now was all right, well, what's the

1843
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: next thing. So my man, Zach Berman says, well, you

1844
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 2: know they're gonna they're gonna throw the ball because you

1845
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: know Saquon. They're not gonna have Saquon carry that kind

1846
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:14,120
Speaker 2: of workload, which I agree was extraordinary. But suddenly they're

1847
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 2: going to become a throwing team because, let's face it,

1848
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 2: Jalen wants to throw the ball. That's what he said.

1849
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 2: And I go, all right, well, you have a great

1850
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 2: o line. The reason why you won is because you

1851
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 2: have a great offensive line and you had Saquon Barkley.

1852
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 2: Why why would you just completely turn into a throw

1853
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 2: first team, Why would you do that? What that makes

1854
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: no sense? Like I get, I get Christian McCaffrey and

1855
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: gotta be careful with the workload. They added AJ Dillon

1856
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: to take some of the load off them, all right,

1857
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: they gotta have a couple of young backs in camp

1858
01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 2: as well. Okay, Like I get not wanted to run

1859
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 2: Saquan into the ground, but your identity was as a

1860
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 2: downhill run team. They tried to throw the ball early

1861
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 2: in that in the season and then become a They've

1862
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: done that at times because I think Sirianne wants to

1863
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 2: throw the football, but they're not good at it. Jalen

1864
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: turns the ball over when he throws too many, when

1865
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,519
Speaker 2: it's too much, throw, throw, throw, and you're talking thirty

1866
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,599
Speaker 2: to thirty five times a game. That's when you run

1867
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 2: into some trouble. That's when this offense starts to language,

1868
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,759
Speaker 2: even with AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. So the argument

1869
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: was about, well, Jalen deserves to be able to throw

1870
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 2: the ball, and my point was that's not chasing numbers

1871
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:48,600
Speaker 2: in three yard games and touchdown passes. Is it what

1872
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 2: makes them a great quarterback? What makes me a great

1873
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 2: quarterback is that if you put eight in the box.

1874
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: He could throw the ball down the field and drop

1875
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 2: it in a bucket along the sidelines to aj Brown.

1876
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 2: Or he can help. He can run the ball. He

1877
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 2: can run and he really hurt. He's he's that extra

1878
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 2: man in the run game, which makes them even more potent,

1879
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Like why does everybody have to be Joe Burrow? Joe Barrow?

1880
01:43:15,120 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: And I love Burrow and this is not an invite

1881
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 2: bore in him, but Joe Burrow didn't win FITZI.

1882
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:23,680
Speaker 4: I think a couple of things you have to do

1883
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 4: in this situation.

1884
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 3: Number one is ask ourselves was the person that you're

1885
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,760
Speaker 3: replacing doing a bad job? Because I certainly don't think

1886
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 3: most would argue Kellen Moore did anything other than a

1887
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 3: great job there.

1888
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1889
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 3: So now that you know that the person you're replacing

1890
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 3: was doing a good job, imagine the interview process. You

1891
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 3: come in and say, Okay, what do you want to

1892
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 3: do with this offense? Well, I want to change everything

1893
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 3: that just won year Super Bowl. I just don't understand

1894
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 3: why that would even be part of the sales pitch.

1895
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: I understand wanting to throw the football a little bit

1896
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: more and see if you can accomplish a little bit

1897
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 3: more balance in that way. I can understand that being

1898
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 3: part of the sales pitch of the job if you were.

1899
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 3: But like if I'm sitting gear and I'm interviewing today

1900
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 3: for the offensive coordinator position of the defending Super Bowl champions,

1901
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,759
Speaker 3: I'm probably talking about minor tweaks and not major changes

1902
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 3: to anything that the offense is doing, because that just

1903
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,360
Speaker 3: seems like the right process when you just dominated your

1904
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 3: way through a Super Bowl. So I the logic that

1905
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 3: they would suddenly become a throwing team, because that's what

1906
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 3: Jalen wants, it just seems failed to me. And the

1907
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 3: logic that they're gonna make mass changes in how they

1908
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 3: call everything seems failed to me because of the success

1909
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 3: they've had doing what they're doing. Even if you try that,

1910
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 3: even if you're coming out saying, you know what, we

1911
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 3: want to throw the ball more. All right, the minute

1912
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,559
Speaker 3: things go a little bit awry, what do we everybody's

1913
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 3: gonna do? We're gonna look at it and say, well,

1914
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 3: what was working? What needs to continue working. I just

1915
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 3: don't think that it makes any sense to change what

1916
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 3: got you to the dance when it was so dominant

1917
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 3: and so hard for teams to stop last year, like,

1918
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 3: don't don't fix one, ain't broken. NFL is already complicated enough,

1919
01:44:58,120 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 3: it's already hard enough to win football games.

1920
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 4: You just want a bunch of them.

1921
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,560
Speaker 3: So I think the concept of every quarterback needs to

1922
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 3: be Joe Burrow is a failed one or Patrick Mahomes

1923
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 3: is a failed one. Your fifty three needs to be

1924
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 3: better than their fifty three. And right now, if you

1925
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 3: go to the Eagles and you say, hey, what is

1926
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 3: the mixed thing that made what is the special sauce

1927
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 3: that made you Super Bowl champions? Wasn't Jalen Hurts. It

1928
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 3: was their fifty three was better than the Eagles or

1929
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 3: the Chiefs fifty three. Let's remember that the best quarterback

1930
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 3: in the league got stomped.

1931
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 4: In the Super Bowl.

1932
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 3: Because you don't win Super Bowls just because you have

1933
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 3: the best quarterback. You win because you have the better team.

1934
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 3: I don't if the Eagles decide they're suddenly going to

1935
01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 3: change their offense. I think that is a flat out

1936
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 3: stupid move.

1937
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 2: Well, so I had this debate with my man and

1938
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: we were talking about Hurts, and he's like, well, Jalen

1939
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 2: deserves to be able to throw the ball like First

1940
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:56,320
Speaker 2: of all, he does throw it. It's not like all

1941
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 2: they do is run the ball. He played really well.

1942
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: He had a great season last year. Great season. You

1943
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 2: know when when the Steelers tried to throw eight nine

1944
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 2: in a box and forced him to throw and played

1945
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,600
Speaker 2: press man. He made all he made the throws. He

1946
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 2: played great. You know, the need for stats and numbers

1947
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 2: to quantify how good you are, That's the what I'm

1948
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 2: getting at. That's a problem that quarterback should not be.

1949
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 7: He was.

1950
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 2: He was great last year. Jalen Hurts so and it's

1951
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 2: like so wat that some you know, somebody has him

1952
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 2: ranked as the top ten, not a top five or

1953
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,679
Speaker 2: a top six, not a top three. Like, who cares

1954
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: if you're the dominant team. He's been to two super

1955
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:57,880
Speaker 2: Bowls now he's won one. I mean, come on, like, what,

1956
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,759
Speaker 2: like why are we like? I don't think Key needs

1957
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 2: and I would have this conversation with him. I don't

1958
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 2: think you need voting numbers to add to your resume.

1959
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 2: He's an ultimate winning winner.

1960
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: I mean I would look at everybody and say, what

1961
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 3: would you rather have the stats of Joe Burrow or

1962
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl of Jalen Hurts. It's just It's at

1963
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 3: some point it's not about, well, we're doing this because

1964
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 3: our quarterback is limited. There's a difference between these are

1965
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:32,280
Speaker 3: the things that we have to do offensively because we

1966
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 3: can't do other things, versus these are the things we

1967
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 3: choose to do because we've patterned our offense off the

1968
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 3: strengths of really good players. Like you were not masking

1969
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 3: a deficiency. If you're the Eagles and you're talking about

1970
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 3: your offense, you're not masking the deficiency of Jalen Hurts

1971
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 3: in the way you're calling the game. You're maximizing the

1972
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 3: strength of what makes your team really good. We have

1973
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: to start to apply that mindset in there, because it

1974
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,160
Speaker 3: is super easy. I mean, I'm pretty sure if you

1975
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 3: ask Dan Marino at this point, if he could turn

1976
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 3: down some of those numbers, give back some of those numbers,

1977
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 3: but get a ring instead. I've interviewed Dan and I've

1978
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 3: talked to him about Super Bowls.

1979
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 4: He would one.

1980
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 3: Hundred percent do anything to have one of those rings

1981
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 3: that Jalen Hurts now has.

1982
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: So it's so with Joe Burrow.

1983
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got to stop covering and talking about it

1984
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,680
Speaker 3: and thinking about it like it's Madden it's not like

1985
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna get paid if you're a great quarterback, so fine,

1986
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 3: and great quarterback can mean you got paid because you

1987
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 3: are just naturally we watch it, we see your great

1988
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is great. It can also mean hey, naturally

1989
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 3: we watch it, we see that Jalen Hurts is great

1990
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 3: in a very different way, doing a very different thing.

1991
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 3: Like they don't all have to fit in the same standard.

1992
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't understand why we have to think

1993
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 3: less than Jalen Hurts because he just won a Super

1994
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,200
Speaker 3: Bowl exactly.

1995
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 2: And you know the problem, And this is why I

1996
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 2: think the problem is the problem is the fact that

1997
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 2: we all we do is incessly talk about it, which

1998
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 2: is great, right, love it. But you got Chris Simms

1999
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 2: who or whatever pick your pundit who says, well, Hurts

2000
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 2: is not a top ten quarterback or top he's not elite,

2001
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,759
Speaker 2: Like I love the elite tier, the good tier is tier,

2002
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 2: you know all this stuff, he's not. And I think Hurts,

2003
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: here's all that I know. Jalen hears all that stuff

2004
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: and it eats at him. And listen, as any prideful athlete, right,

2005
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 2: like you want to go dumb man, like bleep you.

2006
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: I am a top whatever quarterback. I am elite and

2007
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 2: I won. And I don't want to hear that I

2008
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 2: was a passenger on my team on the Barkley train.

2009
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that. And that is the

2010
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 2: disease of me, right. That always that pat Riley talked

2011
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 2: about years ago, And that's what the Eagles have to

2012
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 2: make sure doesn't creep into their thought process, like who

2013
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: cares with you? Who cares what you were great? You

2014
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 2: were an MVP, Like kidding me. The Eagles don't win

2015
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: without Jalen Hurts at the quarterback last year.

2016
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 3: So take like where that or sleep all night at night,

2017
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 3: and that ultimately, at some point has to be the

2018
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 3: driving force of this. Like everybody, what I say to

2019
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 3: you all the time when we talk about this stuff

2020
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 3: is that I want my favorite, my favorite team's coach

2021
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: to be like a chef on the TV show Chopped,

2022
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 3: open a basket of ingredients and cook with them. And

2023
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 3: I think what's happened is sometimes if a quarterback isn't

2024
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 3: putting up the numbers of you know, Joe Burrow or

2025
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, we look at it and say, well, suddenly

2026
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 3: that's a bad ingredient in the basket, And I would

2027
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 3: say that there's a million ways to skin a cat,

2028
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 3: Like it's okay for Lamar Jackson to be a different

2029
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 3: type of quarterback than Patrick Mahomes, who's a different type

2030
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 3: of quarterback than Josh Allen, who's a different type of

2031
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 3: quarterback than Hurts. The question you have to ask yourself

2032
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: as a franchise is do we believe that the quarterback

2033
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 3: that we have can win a Super Bowl? And if

2034
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 3: the answer to that is yes, then it's okay. How

2035
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 3: do we maximize that ability to win with that quarterback?

2036
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 3: And like, that's the simplest answer here for Jalen Hurts.

2037
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,719
Speaker 3: As you look around and say, hey, there is a formula. Okay,

2038
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 3: he wants to throw the ball more Siriani wants to

2039
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 3: run the ball more people in hell on Icewater, Like,

2040
01:51:28,160 --> 01:51:29,600
Speaker 3: at some point you look at it and say, we

2041
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 3: have a formula here that is winning us games, so

2042
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 3: we need to do the best to maximize that formula.

2043
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean the quarterback's deficient. It just means that

2044
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 3: we are building around the quarterback the right way for

2045
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 3: this team, and it doesn't have to look the same

2046
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 3: for everybody. That's why I hate it when we sit

2047
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 3: here and say, well, is this guy a top ten quarterback? Well,

2048
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 3: there's so many variables to that, like the system they're in.

2049
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 3: Is this guy with this coach, with this offend, this

2050
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,879
Speaker 3: offense together, are they a top ten combo?

2051
01:51:58,120 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 4: And that's a much different conversation.

2052
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 2: Hot takey, right, and we're always hot takey. Everybody wants

2053
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 2: to be hot tachy. But that's the truth of the matter.

2054
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 2: And this is where it manifests itself. It's words dangerous,

2055
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 2: the hot takes of the all these pumpits. It creeps

2056
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 2: into people's minds. You're human beings, and it's like, no,

2057
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 2: I need my chance to be able to throw for

2058
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 2: three hundred a game, you know, No, So off of that,

2059
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 2: I want to do this with you. And it's not

2060
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:29,639
Speaker 2: hypocritical canny this quarterback win a super Bowl and then

2061
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 2: go through the list, not about how good, how what

2062
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: kind of numbers they could put up, but just is

2063
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 2: this guy capable of winning at some point with everything

2064
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 2: around them? Can we do that exercise?

2065
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 3: I'm in, I'm in, all right, that's coming up.

2066
01:52:45,840 --> 01:52:55,000
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2074
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 6: Hey we find out now show hey Hinson a mile

2075
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 6: high into the air way back all right, Herron Judge

2076
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 6: at the wall, he leaves, he cannot bring that one back.

2077
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 6: Show Hey, old Tani with his second.

2078
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 3: Of the game.

2079
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 2: That's right, and that brought the comeback, that started to comeback,

2080
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 2: made it five to three. Dodgers go on to win.

2081
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 2: Otani Judge, you know they were both incredible. Otani with two,

2082
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: Judge with one, uh, great night. All right, but let's

2083
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 2: start our little exercise quarterbacks. Who are the quarterbacks that

2084
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 2: you feel comfortable in saying they can win the Super

2085
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Bowl no matter what the system is it's got obviously,

2086
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 2: it's gotta be the right system and the right people

2087
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: around them, the right coaching, you name it. But it's

2088
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: off that exercise. It's what you said Fitzie. So let's start.

2089
01:54:27,920 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 4: You ready, here we go, right, Yeah, I'm ready for this. Yeah, okay,

2090
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 4: so I was.

2091
01:54:34,400 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 3: I was just letting him, colle make sure you get

2092
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 3: to make sure Anthony is good.

2093
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 2: All right.

2094
01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 3: So the main ones we all know, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen,

2095
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.

2096
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, let's go by division. I'm gonna get I'm gonna

2097
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 2: throw them at you. All right, we'll start division. Let's start.

2098
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 2: I'll start at and see east and all right, we

2099
01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 2: know her, it's already won. Uh. And then I'm gonna

2100
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 2: go Jaye Daniels, Right.

2101
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think so. Yeah, Okay, yeah, it's early,

2102
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 3: it's early, you know me. I'm cautious to put that

2103
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 3: much praise, but I think so Jadon Daniels was so incredible. Yeah,

2104
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 3: I'll put him on the S list.

2105
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: All right. Now here's an interesting one.

2106
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 5: Dak.

2107
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 4: Oh man, that's so like.

2108
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 3: Man, I've been like the I feel in some ways

2109
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: like the champion of the Dak fan club for a while.

2110
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 3: Like I think we've gone too far on the Dak's

2111
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 3: overrated train. I think Dak's a very good quarterback. I

2112
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 3: really believe that. But man, Do I trust Dak to

2113
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 3: go out and win me a super Bowl?

2114
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 7: No?

2115
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 3: I god, I mean, do I trust him to stay

2116
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:40,640
Speaker 3: healthy enough? Do I trust him not to have a

2117
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 3: bad playoff game because we've seen that. No, So i'most

2118
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 3: say no, matter the system, No, the answer is no.

2119
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 3: With the right system, yes, but no matter the system, no,

2120
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 3: I can't put him on the absolute Yes, he can

2121
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 3: win a super Bowl by himself train.

2122
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 7: No.

2123
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean we've the problem with Dak is we've seen,

2124
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, we've seen when he had all things working

2125
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 2: for him, home enough, town around them, and you know,

2126
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 2: came up small. I mean, that's that's gotta matter now.

2127
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the proof of concept on it is so

2128
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 3: that we've just we've seen the meltdown over and over

2129
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Speaker 3: and over again. It feels like, so, yeah, no, I'm

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Speaker 3: with you, it's a it's a do I But like,

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Speaker 3: I believe that if Dak found his Kyle Shanahan, he

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Speaker 3: could definitely win a super Bowl. Like, I do believe

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Speaker 3: he has the potential, But I don't think he can

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Speaker 3: bootstrap it up and just be like, boys, we're winning

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Speaker 3: the super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. If I'll be honest with you, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if he can win it.

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Speaker 2: No matter if you think Dak is more like in

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01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 2: the the you think Dak is more, I think he's

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Speaker 2: a bad court like. Put it this way. I don't

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01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 2: think he's bad, right, but I don't know that he's

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Speaker 2: got the gene, the winning gene.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's real. I've certainly never seen it.

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01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 3: We've certainly never seen it.

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Speaker 2: All right, so let's go on to let's go to

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Speaker 2: the north. Let's go to golf, which is really interesting because.

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Speaker 4: A super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we know you can. You can win a Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl golf.

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Speaker 2: Come on, right, I'm throwing it out asking you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm confident you can win a r Yeah.

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01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean he's in such a great situation.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well he's in he's in the optimum situation

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01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 2: for him.

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Speaker 3: Right right here is the quarterback of I mean another

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Speaker 3: team that wasn't his fault.

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Speaker 2: Way, Yeah, it wasn't his fault the meltdowns because defensively

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Speaker 2: they got you know, but you know, he's he had

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Speaker 2: a couple of bad games, five pick games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had He's had a couple of he's had

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Speaker 3: a couple of meltdowns, but I still think, yeah, you

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Speaker 3: could win a Super Bowl with him.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, well we'll continue this on the

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Speaker 2: other side. Get back to Nick's patis as well. The

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Speaker 2: fella is right here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: be happy last day of May, baby summertime, summertime June July,

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Speaker 2: right after we get off the air. That's it, all right, FITZI, Tonight, Indiana,

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01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 2: New York. We know where the pressure is. We know

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Speaker 2: all about this. How do you see this game, like,

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Speaker 2: let let's talk, let's get back, let's dive into it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to the quarterback discussion and a little

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Speaker 2: bit a little bit, but we do have a huge

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Speaker 2: game tonight in the Eastern Conference. How do you see

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Speaker 2: this game playing out? And how do you see Indiana,

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01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, kind of warding off? You know what the

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Speaker 2: Knicks have done.

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Speaker 3: When Indiana plays with their usual pace and takes even

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Speaker 3: remote care of the basketball, they win. And you know,

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Speaker 3: again the two losses in this series, the first loss

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Speaker 3: was a season low and three points, three pointers made,

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Speaker 3: three pointers attempted, and three point percentage, right, like, that's

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Speaker 3: the worst of Indiana what they can do. They lose

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Speaker 3: in the Garden in a game where they were reckless

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Speaker 3: with the basketball. So, you know, I think there's a

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Speaker 3: fine line between trying to push your pace and being

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Speaker 3: reckless with the basketball. But man, it just felt like

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Speaker 3: Indiana in Game five took a bunch of hits and

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Speaker 3: they weren't really ready for them. I think they learned

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Speaker 3: from that. I think they come out with a lot

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Speaker 3: more composure in this game, and I think they shoot better.

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Speaker 3: They should shoot better obviously being at home, although that

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Speaker 3: hasn't always been the case for Halliburton. I think they're

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Speaker 3: gonna come in, they're gonna shoot better, they're gonna play

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Speaker 3: with their usual pace, and they win this game. That

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Speaker 3: being said, let's acknowledge that a lot of these games

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Speaker 3: have been weird, and so that makes me a little like,

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Speaker 3: it's weird how dominant each team has looked in different

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Speaker 3: phases of this. So it makes me a little nervous.

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Speaker 3: But I expect Indiana to come out and just be

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Speaker 3: trying to push the pace from the outset of this

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Speaker 3: thing to get themselves back to their normal scoring levels,

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Speaker 3: which is how they win. When they score a bunch

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Speaker 3: of points, they win. It's just that simple. So they're

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Speaker 3: gonna try and score a bunch of points.

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Speaker 2: Do you worry about Nasmith?

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Speaker 3: I just can't believe that we're sitting here, Like if

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Speaker 3: I'd have told you that the Bengo card would say

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Speaker 3: that n Smith was the most important guy, like the

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Speaker 3: the other guy that was going to come through throughout

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Speaker 3: the course of the playoffs, I'd be pretty stunned. I

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Speaker 3: am concerned about you know, the injury obviously was a

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Speaker 3: big impact, so a little bit, but I also think, man,

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Speaker 3: we've talked a little bit about Siakam, but this feels

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Speaker 3: like a Siaka moment, just made like there is a

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Speaker 3: guy in this Indiana team that understands exactly.

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Speaker 4: What it takes to win a championship. So I think

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Speaker 4: that this is a big Siakam night coming up.

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Speaker 2: Well that Miles Turner can't get in foul trouble because yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can't have Siakam guarden Kat because Cat is just

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Speaker 2: too big and strong for him.

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Speaker 3: How I mean you mentioned the foul trouble, Like foul

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Speaker 3: trouble has been such a dictator to so much of

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Speaker 3: this series, like the ebbs and flows. Just watching like

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Speaker 3: how these officials call it is going to be a

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Speaker 3: And all I ask is, did they're consistent throughout the

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Speaker 3: course of the game, which I think for the most

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Speaker 3: part they've been pretty consistent.

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Speaker 4: They've had a few stupid moments, but that's.

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Speaker 3: All I asked for. All of it is like, just

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Speaker 3: for the love of God, call it the same throughout

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Speaker 3: the course of the game for both teams. That's all

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Speaker 3: you can ask for. But man, it makes a massive difference.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, a buddy of mine said to

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Speaker 2: me this, and I had to think about it. He said,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. Should you get rid

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Speaker 2: of disqualification for fouls? Because it's such a CHICKI chat,

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Speaker 2: It's such a subjective thing. There's been so many ticky

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Speaker 2: tack fouls in the series, and it has impacted it

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Speaker 2: in a big way. Like you know, we shaw brunch

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Speaker 2: and get a couple of the ticky tacks picked up

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Speaker 2: three fousand and four thousand, one quarter. I mean his

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Speaker 2: point is, do you just get rid of the disqualification

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Speaker 2: because you just don't trust officiating and it's not fair

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Speaker 2: to the outcome.

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Speaker 3: I think the problem with that is every single rule

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Speaker 3: that's ever made or changed, and I don't care whether

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Speaker 3: we're talking about sports or law, every time there's a

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Speaker 3: new rule or law that's being put in place, I

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Speaker 3: think what you have to ask yourself is what will

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Speaker 3: the worst person want to do in this situation? Like

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Speaker 3: what is the absolute worst case?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: And and then gear everything towards how to prevent that.

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Speaker 3: So if you're right, right, like if you if there

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Speaker 3: is no foul out limit, then you're just going to

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Speaker 3: you were going to slow games down to a crawl

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Speaker 3: because there's no reason for anybody to play with any

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Speaker 3: caution anymore. And right, man, that that's too ugly. You're

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Speaker 3: going to have to live with the egg on your

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Speaker 3: face from the officiating and consistencies at times, because that's

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Speaker 3: better than the egg on your face from a three

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Speaker 3: hour basketball game because there were four hundred and thirty.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, because yeah, it would be it would be ugly.

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Speaker 2: I said, it's I told them. I was like, no, man,

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Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, right, But I didn't. I didn't even have

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Speaker 2: that argument. I just slow, I just was like no,

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Speaker 2: like just that kind of slept it off. But then

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Speaker 2: as I started thinking about brought up to you, you're right,

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Speaker 2: that's the that's the only reason why. That's the biggest

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Speaker 2: reason why. But I hear his point because his point.

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Speaker 9: Was it's so frustrating when you have really good players

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Speaker 9: that are hampered by fouls when a lot of the

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Speaker 9: more TICKI tech and it has dictated this series.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think he was on the losing side. That's

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Speaker 2: why he had that kind of mentality.

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Speaker 3: Is my guess, Uh, what if you gave like every

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Speaker 3: team one one get back, one get back in the game,

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Speaker 3: like one file out, one foul out person could come back,

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Speaker 3: that'd be interesting. Look, I'm over here fixing things that

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Speaker 3: don't need to be fixed. But no, at least interesting.

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Speaker 2: No, he brought it up. But it was funny because like,

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Speaker 2: I like, I get it. He's like, because it was

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Speaker 2: the it was the knixt one where it was you know,

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02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 2: because Brunson was in foul trouble and Cat and he's

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Speaker 2: crying about it. I'm like, you know, and listen, Cat

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02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:14,120
Speaker 2: came back and won the game. He got hot and

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02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 2: was burying. You know, he becomes rangeless. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: no limit to his range when he's hot. And that's

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Speaker 2: the truth is Carl antv. Towns, Like, if they come

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Speaker 2: back and win this series, it's the Cat like retribution

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Speaker 2: kind of moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean it's it changes the way we

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Speaker 3: talk about Cat. It changes everything about Cat. The thing

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Speaker 3: of it is, it's all there. It's just do you

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Speaker 3: believe that he's the player that will take advantage of it?

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Speaker 3: And as I've said kind of repeatedly lately, you know,

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Speaker 3: Minnesota needed somebody with the skill set of Carl Anthony Towns.

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02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:03,720
Speaker 3: And even though they needed somebody with that skill set,

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Speaker 3: they had him in the building and they were like, yeah,

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02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 3: we're good not having this guy here anymore. And how

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02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 3: often throughout the course of the last series did we say, Man,

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Speaker 3: if only they had and I'm not saying Carl Anthony Towns,

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Speaker 3: if they only if only they had the two K

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Speaker 3: version of Karl Anthony Towns, like that would have been

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02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:19,880
Speaker 3: a big help for them. In that series, they had

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Speaker 3: the real life version and said we're gonna let you

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Speaker 3: walk because they understood the inconsistency is not something you

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02:06:25,160 --> 02:06:27,840
Speaker 3: can bank on. And I mean, just I'm not trying

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02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:29,960
Speaker 3: to be harsh to Carl Anthony Towns here. I just

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02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 3: I think we need to see him come in night

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Speaker 3: in and night out and be the best version of himself.

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Speaker 3: And if he if he does that, if Karl Anthony

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02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 3: Towns plays the way he's played at his best in

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02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 3: this series throughout these playoffs, if he bottled that up

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02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,440
Speaker 3: and gave us that every single night, the entire way

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02:06:47,480 --> 02:06:49,839
Speaker 3: we perceived the player would be vastly different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, he was in such

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02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 2: a tack mode the other night. Look, I mean I

2333
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 2: thought that they had to try to back into it

2334
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:04,000
Speaker 2: like you expected that third quarter run, and they had

2335
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:05,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of a run. It got stamped out

2336
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:10,880
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. But like every time they tried to get

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02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:15,280
Speaker 2: a bucket and they went and because Turner was in

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02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:19,280
Speaker 2: foul trouble, just could not stay with him. Man, he

2339
02:07:19,480 --> 02:07:23,160
Speaker 2: was he was physically overmatched by Cat.

2340
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you forget how huge Cat is as a

2341
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:29,520
Speaker 3: human being until you watch him in these types of

2342
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 3: series where it's like, yeah, he is just physically if

2343
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 3: the two guys were playing on the playground, like if

2344
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 3: they were walking down the street, the physical difference between

2345
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:40,480
Speaker 3: the two of them, of course, it's a nenuce for Siaka.

2346
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 2: I know, you know it's funny because the Nise Smith

2347
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 2: injury worries me because he's such a val and I

2348
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:53,320
Speaker 2: hear your point, but he's such a valuable role player.

2349
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 2: She starts saying, he defends, Like one of the issues

2350
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 2: is is your defense, Like they're a much better defensive

2351
02:08:03,480 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 2: team when he's on the floor and he's not. They're

2352
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 2: they're just not that good defensively.

2353
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, Like he's a disruptor on the defensive side.

2354
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:19,920
Speaker 3: Just he's the type of defender that makes everything agitated

2355
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:21,200
Speaker 3: and makes everything difficult.

2356
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 4: And that's that's huge.

2357
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 3: And what do we talked about earlier too, like when

2358
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 3: you need that level of intensity, particularly on the defensive

2359
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 3: side of.

2360
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:31,720
Speaker 4: The ball like this, he matters.

2361
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:35,800
Speaker 3: He matters a lot there and you can't put enough

2362
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:39,000
Speaker 3: value on on where he has been for this team.

2363
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,800
Speaker 3: I just unfortunately, I don't think physically he's You can't

2364
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 3: undo an injury like that, you know, And that's that's the.

2365
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 4: Moment of hope here.

2366
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 3: If you're a Knicks fan, you're looking at it saying, hey,

2367
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 3: we have something to attack now, and there's nothing that's

2368
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:55,080
Speaker 3: going to make him suddenly feel better.

2369
02:08:56,280 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 2: Did you like the the move that, you know, the

2370
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 2: bringing Josh Hart off the bench?

2371
02:09:03,680 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 3: I mean I felt like it. Yeah, I mean I

2372
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:07,880
Speaker 3: thought it brought up it brought a little bit of

2373
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 3: size and a lot of spark, So yeah, I mean

2374
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 3: I had no problem with it.

2375
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:13,240
Speaker 2: You No, I thought it was great and it was

2376
02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:19,920
Speaker 2: Josh Hart's idea, which I loved that he thought and

2377
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,080
Speaker 2: he thought it would be better because he'd be better

2378
02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 2: come off the bench.

2379
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 3: Doesn't that speak to what you talked about earlier about

2380
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 3: this next team though, Like you want to talk about

2381
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 3: ultimate buy in for Hey, this is what it takes

2382
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,000
Speaker 3: to win, and this is how we're going to do

2383
02:09:34,080 --> 02:09:39,080
Speaker 3: it like they are a resilient they are a team

2384
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 3: oriented bunch, like it is all four of these remaining

2385
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:47,200
Speaker 3: teams that we've had. Yeah, it just the final four

2386
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 3: gave us true team basketball in a really cool way.

2387
02:09:51,120 --> 02:09:56,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, good ball, man, real good ball. Do you

2388
02:09:57,160 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 2: are you you find yourself rooting at all for any

2389
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:04,880
Speaker 2: for either team Celebrity Row.

2390
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's easy to root against Celebrity Row.

2391
02:10:08,760 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 3: It's easy to root against just how much the knicks

2392
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,839
Speaker 3: are being shoved down everybody's throats, and it is easy

2393
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 3: to The troll in me loves the fact that they

2394
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 3: were renaming streets and partying in the streets like they

2395
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:22,520
Speaker 3: just want a championship for a second round win over

2396
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 3: the Celtics. I just I still think that's such a

2397
02:10:24,760 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 3: wild over celebration. The troll in me would like to

2398
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 3: see all of that, just a little bit of crow

2399
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 3: eating in that situation. But also, I just I think

2400
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:38,280
Speaker 3: that throughout the course of the season, we have spent

2401
02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 3: not we you and I, but we as a collective

2402
02:10:40,880 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 3: have spent a lot of the time just ignoring Indiana

2403
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 3: and Oklahoma City because they're just not as sexy and

2404
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:51,720
Speaker 3: so for me, having an opportunity for a team like

2405
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:54,120
Speaker 3: that to win is a little bit of a in

2406
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:56,120
Speaker 3: your face to everybody that only wants to talk about

2407
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Celtics. So I be honest, If

2408
02:10:58,960 --> 02:11:01,600
Speaker 3: I'm being honest, part of me finds myself just rooting

2409
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,680
Speaker 3: for one of those stories because you know how many

2410
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 3: years in a row we're gonna have to see a

2411
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,040
Speaker 3: Denver or Indiana when before we're gonna have to start

2412
02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 3: paying attention to the Denvers in Indianas.

2413
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree, who gives it? Who makes it

2414
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:16,879
Speaker 2: for the who makes it better? Finals?

2415
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:18,919
Speaker 3: Indiana?

2416
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 4: Okay, See it's the best basketball. I think that's the

2417
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:23,040
Speaker 4: best without.

2418
02:11:22,840 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 2: Best experienced play because if he can't play that, that kills.

2419
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 2: I think the.

2420
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 3: Basketball has a chance to be better in the Indiana

2421
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City series. But to see the Garden in the

2422
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:42,080
Speaker 3: NBA Finals, my god, dude, like that'll be you want

2423
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 3: to talk about electric every single game like that getting

2424
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:48,920
Speaker 3: beat down or not. Just to see finals games in

2425
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:51,280
Speaker 3: the in the Gardens, it would be pretty impressive. So

2426
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:54,000
Speaker 3: I I do think that there is an element of

2427
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 3: that as a fan of of just environments, that that

2428
02:11:58,280 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 3: would be wild, That be InCred them.

2429
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:06,000
Speaker 2: And the last time was I covered the series the Rockets,

2430
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 2: that was the in fact, one of the games in

2431
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 2: Houston was the OJ game. Oh my god, that was

2432
02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 2: the last time they were in the finals.

2433
02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:22,680
Speaker 3: It's just it's been so long, and for a team

2434
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 3: that we talk about as much as we talk about them,

2435
02:12:25,080 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 3: it's it's crazy. This is the NBA equivalent of the

2436
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 3: Cowboys finally making the Super Bowl. If it happens, you know,

2437
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 3: and my god, like that, that just the conversation alone,

2438
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,400
Speaker 3: just the way that it will be covered by everybody

2439
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,720
Speaker 3: will be both beautiful and sickening all at once.

2440
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 2: Right like it, they'll get all the noise, even though

2441
02:12:44,120 --> 02:12:47,640
Speaker 2: ok is much better. Like I'll be honest with you,

2442
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't I agree with you. If as long as

2443
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:58,160
Speaker 2: thesewith is healthy, they're the Patris are more competitive. I

2444
02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 2: saw someone sagas the odds of Talk the Brain coming up,

2445
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 2: But the odds had the Knicks as a low like

2446
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:13,200
Speaker 2: they the Vegas had the Knicks as a better series,

2447
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 2: closer series. I don't see the.

2448
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 3: Knicks are taking on Okay, see that's a five game series.

2449
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:21,760
Speaker 3: That's a five game as Wolf.

2450
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 2: I agree, because they're they're too deep. Okay, c is deep.

2451
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna run them off the floor.

2452
02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:35,120
Speaker 3: They're deep and fast and explosive.

2453
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I mean, look, I mean, I mean,

2454
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 2: I love I love Jalen, right, I love big Jalen

2455
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:45,200
Speaker 2: Bruns a fan. He gets it. Like you know, he's handsy, right,

2456
02:13:45,360 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 2: and you know he's not He's not as strange as

2457
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,800
Speaker 2: a foul trouble. How's he going to guard Okay, how's

2458
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:54,400
Speaker 2: he gonna guard U? S g A and still be

2459
02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 2: as dominant on the floor and stay out of foul truble?

2460
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 4: He's not SGA.

2461
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:03,680
Speaker 3: Hammer and the Knicks for an NBA title would be

2462
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:08,760
Speaker 3: such a just big legacy building moment, It really would.

2463
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,000
Speaker 3: It would just be because it's the Knicks and because

2464
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:15,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna have the big personalities reacting to it every second. Oh,

2465
02:14:15,680 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just if your SGA, You're you're feasting

2466
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,000
Speaker 3: on the tiers of Knicks fans all the way to

2467
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 3: legendary status.

2468
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be wild. All right, we'll take

2469
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:29,560
Speaker 2: a look at it from a betting standpoint. The brain

2470
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:33,680
Speaker 2: will join us, so we'll do that and then we'll

2471
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,600
Speaker 2: get back to our quarterback discussion. As well, we're the

2472
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:40,160
Speaker 2: Fellas right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2473
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:44,240
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2474
02:14:44,320 --> 02:14:47,680
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2475
02:14:47,800 --> 02:14:51,880
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2476
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:52,879
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2477
02:14:54,240 --> 02:15:01,880
Speaker 2: Fellas fits a hanging out with you guys every Saturday

2478
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:05,520
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Always time to out

2479
02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:08,320
Speaker 2: to talk to one of our boys, take a look

2480
02:15:08,360 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 2: at the weekend's card from a betting standpoint, and he's

2481
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 2: an overall sportsman, so we love to chop it up

2482
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:18,960
Speaker 2: with him. He's our man, the Brain, Brad Feinberg Brain.

2483
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, guys. How are you today, Well,

2484
02:15:22,400 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 2: you say, buddy, big game tonight?

2485
02:15:24,560 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 5: Great, Yeah, huge game to night. Yeah, it should be,

2486
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 5: it should be great. Looking forward to it obviously, you

2487
02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 5: know a lot of pressure on both teams here. It's

2488
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:37,920
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. I mean, Indiana obviously laid

2489
02:15:37,960 --> 02:15:40,480
Speaker 5: an egg in that last game, but I thought that

2490
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:43,000
Speaker 5: was a you know, tough spot nix for you know,

2491
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:46,640
Speaker 5: obviously down three one, you know, had everything that they

2492
02:15:46,720 --> 02:15:50,280
Speaker 5: had to go out there, and but this game, obviously,

2493
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:53,000
Speaker 5: you know, this is I was even if Indiana loses,

2494
02:15:53,000 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 5: which I don't expect them to. I don't necessarily think

2495
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:58,360
Speaker 5: they would just be dead in the water for Game seven.

2496
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:01,600
Speaker 5: They showed that last year, right, They won that Game

2497
02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 5: seven in New York. Last year they actually blew them out,

2498
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:08,480
Speaker 5: So I don't think if they somehow did lose this game,

2499
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:10,120
Speaker 5: I don't think they'd be drawing dead at all for

2500
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 5: Game seven, because I know we're not gonna be ab.

2501
02:16:11,800 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 2: Until next week.

2502
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:15,520
Speaker 5: But I do think that Indiana certainly would be able

2503
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 5: to win even if they lose this game.

2504
02:16:17,520 --> 02:16:21,120
Speaker 3: How much does what we saw in the last game

2505
02:16:21,640 --> 02:16:25,480
Speaker 3: impact the way you approached today's game from a gambling standpoint?

2506
02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:30,120
Speaker 5: Serious like this, it's the honestly, not at all. My

2507
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:32,880
Speaker 5: honest answer, not at all. Luck did I think that

2508
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 5: there would not be You know, look, you have two

2509
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:37,640
Speaker 5: teams that are very close to even, and these teams

2510
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 5: are close to even. I personally think Indiana is a

2511
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:41,840
Speaker 5: little bit better, but I think they're very close to

2512
02:16:41,920 --> 02:16:44,440
Speaker 5: the even. You're going to have situation for one team

2513
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:48,000
Speaker 5: wins fifteen plus points. That's just going to happen, right.

2514
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:51,040
Speaker 5: It's like if you spend a Rolett wheel enough times,

2515
02:16:51,240 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 5: your number is going to come up, and you know

2516
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 5: it was just one of those games where again all

2517
02:16:56,760 --> 02:17:00,360
Speaker 5: in game for the Knicks and they you know, they

2518
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 5: played it again, they played a good game at home

2519
02:17:02,800 --> 02:17:05,680
Speaker 5: and they won. Do how does it affect how I

2520
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:07,160
Speaker 5: see stuff going forward?

2521
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 2: Is?

2522
02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:10,640
Speaker 5: I said, it really doesn't because I think that it

2523
02:17:10,760 --> 02:17:12,880
Speaker 5: was just one of those things. We have two pretty

2524
02:17:12,879 --> 02:17:14,879
Speaker 5: well matchings playing and one team just had it had

2525
02:17:14,920 --> 02:17:18,160
Speaker 5: their day that day. So for me, I don't necessarily

2526
02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:20,520
Speaker 5: think there's any carryover it all. Look at the Timberwols

2527
02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:23,720
Speaker 5: series against the Thunder. You know these teams are all

2528
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:27,120
Speaker 5: garading running by forty five points, right, I mean, so

2529
02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:29,440
Speaker 5: I don't think necessarily there's any carryover at all, to

2530
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:29,880
Speaker 5: be honest.

2531
02:17:30,560 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing we were talking about the Nie

2532
02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:35,200
Speaker 2: Smith injuries. The only thing that kind of concerns the

2533
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 2: human huge same.

2534
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:39,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I'm with you on that. Like he's like

2535
02:17:39,760 --> 02:17:43,360
Speaker 5: one of my favorite players, and I absolutely agree with

2536
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,800
Speaker 5: you that is a potentially a huge thing, and he

2537
02:17:45,920 --> 02:17:49,879
Speaker 5: obviously didn't. First defensively too, I saw the stats, guys,

2538
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 5: him versus Nmhard was literally Nike and Day versus Brunson.

2539
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:57,040
Speaker 5: I mean it may forget the offense where we know

2540
02:17:57,120 --> 02:18:00,000
Speaker 5: he's way better, but defensively was even a bigger different

2541
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:02,119
Speaker 5: singing Nie Smith to me, if I had to pick

2542
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:04,080
Speaker 5: the guy I thinks most hunger rated player in the NBA,

2543
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 5: he had probably been my pick. That is a big thing.

2544
02:18:07,800 --> 02:18:11,199
Speaker 5: And I think that they probably, you know, they here's

2545
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,240
Speaker 5: the thing. They do have great depth Indiana at least

2546
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,880
Speaker 5: uh so, at least they do have that going from them.

2547
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:18,960
Speaker 5: But obviously that's a yeah, that's a very significant thing

2548
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:20,680
Speaker 5: I do. I agree with you guys one hundred percent.

2549
02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:24,800
Speaker 3: So if this thing goes into game seven again, we

2550
02:18:24,879 --> 02:18:28,840
Speaker 3: won't have you before then when we look at game

2551
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:31,880
Speaker 3: seven's like, this is always interesting to me because your

2552
02:18:31,959 --> 02:18:34,960
Speaker 3: metrics are your metrics, so your numbers are your numbers.

2553
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,160
Speaker 3: Does it matter at that point that it would have

2554
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:40,840
Speaker 3: been two straight wins for Indiana and it's in the garden.

2555
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:42,760
Speaker 3: Does any of that matter? Or does the numbers just

2556
02:18:42,760 --> 02:18:43,680
Speaker 3: say what the numbers say?

2557
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:45,959
Speaker 5: I think the numbers just say what the numbers are

2558
02:18:45,959 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 5: gonna say. Now again, obviously, then you say, you know,

2559
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:49,520
Speaker 5: there's an emotion side to Okay, you have a team

2560
02:18:49,520 --> 02:18:51,280
Speaker 5: that was up three to one. You know, how are

2561
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:53,640
Speaker 5: they going to take going into this game seven knowing

2562
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:55,879
Speaker 5: that they had a three to one chance. Now, oh

2563
02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,160
Speaker 5: my god, the sky is falling there. You know, it's

2564
02:18:58,240 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 5: three to three. But as they said, I think because

2565
02:19:01,160 --> 02:19:03,520
Speaker 5: to the same team, and we're comparing apples to apples here,

2566
02:19:03,560 --> 02:19:05,959
Speaker 5: if it's like the same team went into the garden

2567
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:08,720
Speaker 5: last year and beat them by I think twenty five points,

2568
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:11,920
Speaker 5: I wasn't close. They shot I think an NBA right,

2569
02:19:11,959 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 5: and I sat like sixty nine percent of the fours.

2570
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:18,520
Speaker 5: I scene like that to me. Again, to me, I

2571
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,000
Speaker 5: don't think it would. I don't think this team is

2572
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 5: necessarily be drawing dead. Just my opinion. I think they

2573
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:26,480
Speaker 5: absolutely would have a legitimate chance even if they would

2574
02:19:26,480 --> 02:19:28,800
Speaker 5: have lose this game. But again, I do think they're

2575
02:19:28,840 --> 02:19:31,560
Speaker 5: going to win this game. But again, this same game

2576
02:19:31,560 --> 02:19:35,039
Speaker 5: I'm personally betting on. It's not because it's interesting, because

2577
02:19:35,040 --> 02:19:38,240
Speaker 5: to me, the value, let's think about it. I was

2578
02:19:38,320 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 5: able to bet the Pacers minus two or one and

2579
02:19:41,959 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 5: a half these last few games in Indiana. Now, okay,

2580
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 5: now we have to lay a much bigger number. Okay,

2581
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:52,760
Speaker 5: we have to lay and a half or even four.

2582
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:55,039
Speaker 5: Actually mostly fours out there, three and a halfs and fours.

2583
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:58,840
Speaker 5: So you know, to me, the value of taking Indiana

2584
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:01,280
Speaker 5: lang one and a half and two was totally there,

2585
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 5: laying three and a half four not so much.

2586
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:06,280
Speaker 2: So how do you attack tonight?

2587
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:11,160
Speaker 5: Again? Always looking to live bet these things, Anthony, always

2588
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:13,760
Speaker 5: looking to live that these things. Did not bet the

2589
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:15,600
Speaker 5: side in this game. And I will tell you this.

2590
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:19,400
Speaker 5: I did bet Miles Turner over four and a half freebounds.

2591
02:20:19,480 --> 02:20:22,760
Speaker 5: Now he's calling under this, I think four straight games

2592
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,000
Speaker 5: against Nicks. But I can't help myself. He's averaging six

2593
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 5: and a half rebounds for the year. Let me repeat

2594
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:30,760
Speaker 5: six math not five and a half, six and a half, okay,

2595
02:20:31,680 --> 02:20:35,400
Speaker 5: and he's getting the same minutes. I just think it's

2596
02:20:35,440 --> 02:20:36,959
Speaker 5: a little bit of a fluke that he has not.

2597
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 2: Gotten faul trouble too.

2598
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in foul trouble again. No, he certainly has

2599
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:46,720
Speaker 5: some Brook Lopez in them right where he's never been

2600
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,000
Speaker 5: a dominant rebatter, you know, though he's a good player.

2601
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:53,600
Speaker 5: But to me, this number is just, uh, it's too low.

2602
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:54,760
Speaker 5: It's too low.

2603
02:20:54,959 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 2: I played it.

2604
02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,720
Speaker 5: I also did McConnell over six.

2605
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:00,840
Speaker 2: Me.

2606
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:03,920
Speaker 5: He goes over every game. I just he doesn't even

2607
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:05,760
Speaker 5: need many minutes to go over a game, but he

2608
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:08,880
Speaker 5: just he averages nine, making it six and a half

2609
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:11,959
Speaker 5: even in the sixteen minutes fifteen minutes he's I think

2610
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:15,039
Speaker 5: we'll go over, and Michael Bridges, I do not think

2611
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,920
Speaker 5: we'll go I like under four and a half rebounds

2612
02:21:16,959 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 5: for him, he averages three and a half. I think

2613
02:21:19,720 --> 02:21:22,680
Speaker 5: it's one too high. Those are some props I personally

2614
02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:24,800
Speaker 5: bet in this game. But again, as I said, always

2615
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:26,960
Speaker 5: looking to live bet these things. I encourage people to

2616
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,000
Speaker 5: watch the game, see how the game's going, see what

2617
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:32,000
Speaker 5: you're saying, trust your eyes. I guess my favorite way

2618
02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 5: to bet the NBA playoffs.

2619
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,640
Speaker 2: So you real quick, just right jumping? Yeah, go ahead?

2620
02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:42,080
Speaker 2: Fancy yeah, no, go ahead. I'm sorry, I just want

2621
02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:44,560
Speaker 2: to follow real quick. You said something about live well,

2622
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 2: when you talk about live betting, right, so you live

2623
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:50,640
Speaker 2: bet this thing. What are you looking for to make

2624
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:54,279
Speaker 2: it a to make it a play like value?

2625
02:21:54,800 --> 02:22:02,920
Speaker 5: Value? Like specifically like okay, game game five, Right, the

2626
02:22:03,000 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 5: Knicks were a I think they were going about four

2627
02:22:05,360 --> 02:22:07,680
Speaker 5: and a half point favorite. Okay, they were four and

2628
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:09,360
Speaker 5: a half point favorite. They were at home, so and

2629
02:22:09,440 --> 02:22:11,960
Speaker 5: I say they're the better team, the better team in

2630
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:14,600
Speaker 5: terms of that day. The lines favored them by four

2631
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 5: and a half points, right, they were up by eleven

2632
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:20,760
Speaker 5: and a half. I took two and a half in

2633
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:22,960
Speaker 5: the second half. So just think about this. You have

2634
02:22:23,040 --> 02:22:26,640
Speaker 5: a team at home, favorite to win, trying their hardest

2635
02:22:26,959 --> 02:22:29,720
Speaker 5: in a non blowout game, taking two and a half points.

2636
02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:32,760
Speaker 5: You can't lose the possible twenty five years of data

2637
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:36,920
Speaker 5: to show it. You cannot lose. Things like that are

2638
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 5: extremely extremely profitable. You know you will go repeatedly three

2639
02:22:41,200 --> 02:22:45,080
Speaker 5: two or five and three, which is a ridiculous percentage.

2640
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:48,880
Speaker 5: Or again, if you're just seeing something where maybe someone's

2641
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:51,200
Speaker 5: in foul trouble and these algorithmsn't necessarily pick that up.

2642
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:54,640
Speaker 5: Maybe you see that Kalen Brunston has four fouls or

2643
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:58,160
Speaker 5: whatever five thousand or color Anthony Towns has four fouls,

2644
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:01,080
Speaker 5: or he looks hobbled, or just something that you see

2645
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:04,840
Speaker 5: that just in the game flow, right, that's leading you

2646
02:23:04,959 --> 02:23:07,240
Speaker 5: to believe, Okay, maybe in this one game, they're just

2647
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:10,120
Speaker 5: matchup wise, one guy's having his way, so to speak,

2648
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:13,880
Speaker 5: against another player, and they're just They always come back

2649
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:16,400
Speaker 5: to regression in the NBA playoffs. And I don't necessarily

2650
02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:18,640
Speaker 5: think things come back to regression in the NBA playoffs.

2651
02:23:19,400 --> 02:23:21,360
Speaker 5: I think sometimes things are the way they are. Like,

2652
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:24,040
Speaker 5: that's why we've seen some of these fifty point NBA games,

2653
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,800
Speaker 5: right while we've seen okay, see beat teams by bazilion

2654
02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:31,400
Speaker 5: because they're just better and it doesn't necessarily regret back

2655
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:32,880
Speaker 5: to what this original spread was.

2656
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 3: All right, So, while we're on the topic of live betting,

2657
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:39,280
Speaker 3: is that how you approach the Standing Cup final also?

2658
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 4: Or is their value No, started we know who you have?

2659
02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:43,800
Speaker 4: Is their value early on this one.

2660
02:23:44,959 --> 02:23:49,200
Speaker 5: No, I don't live bet really the NHL, but I did.

2661
02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:53,199
Speaker 5: I did bet Ed McKinnon the series at a pick. Look,

2662
02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:56,200
Speaker 5: I give both these teams credit. Luck. I'm not going

2663
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:57,440
Speaker 5: to sit here and tell you I thought either these

2664
02:23:57,440 --> 02:23:58,119
Speaker 5: teams would be here.

2665
02:23:58,440 --> 02:23:58,840
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2666
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:03,960
Speaker 5: But again, hockey is the biggest grind to get to

2667
02:24:04,040 --> 02:24:06,600
Speaker 5: the finals and to win the Stanley Cup. Give both

2668
02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:08,080
Speaker 5: these teams a lot of credit. This is for the

2669
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:12,000
Speaker 5: third straight appearance for the Card of Panthers. Incredible job

2670
02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:16,760
Speaker 5: by them. Obviously a really tough team Edmonton, obviously second

2671
02:24:16,840 --> 02:24:18,560
Speaker 5: year in a row. They were down for nothing last year.

2672
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 5: Now getting back chance to rematch. Now they have the

2673
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:23,720
Speaker 5: home ice, they would have that Game seven if it's there.

2674
02:24:23,959 --> 02:24:25,800
Speaker 5: Not that homece means a ton of Manchell, Guys, I

2675
02:24:25,800 --> 02:24:27,800
Speaker 5: don't think it does, but you know what it is,

2676
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,480
Speaker 5: and I'm just going to be The difference to me,

2677
02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:35,120
Speaker 5: guys is last year Skinner the goalie for Edmonton, I

2678
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:37,280
Speaker 5: thought was a huge negative. Now he's still maybe a

2679
02:24:37,360 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 5: huge negative, but it also could be a Nick Foles

2680
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:41,680
Speaker 5: thing where it seems like what I mean by that,

2681
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:44,360
Speaker 5: it seems like he's playing really well right now today

2682
02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:48,240
Speaker 5: in this exact pocketive games right Maybe next year start

2683
02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:50,160
Speaker 5: so we'll go back to be beating an average goalie.

2684
02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:54,440
Speaker 5: But right now he's playing really, really really well. And

2685
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:56,680
Speaker 5: I think that that Stuart Skinner is not a negative

2686
02:24:56,720 --> 02:24:59,920
Speaker 5: for this team. He's playing great right now. So because

2687
02:25:00,080 --> 02:25:03,920
Speaker 5: of that and the great firepower that this team has

2688
02:25:04,440 --> 02:25:08,480
Speaker 5: the top with mc david and dry title, I think

2689
02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:12,040
Speaker 5: that it's going to be Edmonton who wins the series. Uh.

2690
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:13,520
Speaker 5: And I actually did bet them at a pick. I

2691
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:15,560
Speaker 5: think at Merrick's a bet and as they said, I

2692
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:17,320
Speaker 5: mean to me, one of the difference is the skinner

2693
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:20,720
Speaker 5: of the goalie, UH is just playing really really well

2694
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:24,360
Speaker 5: right now and because of that, UH, I think they're

2695
02:25:24,400 --> 02:25:26,080
Speaker 5: going to find a way to win a close series.

2696
02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:31,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Eve, It's funny. I like Edminton Farest

2697
02:25:31,240 --> 02:25:36,960
Speaker 2: nasty man, They're just they're nasty. But Edmonton's what really

2698
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:39,920
Speaker 2: impressed me is that the way they've closed games out,

2699
02:25:39,959 --> 02:25:41,840
Speaker 2: the way they closed Dallas out. Dalla's got a lot

2700
02:25:41,879 --> 02:25:47,000
Speaker 2: of firepower and they closed them out by checking and

2701
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:50,720
Speaker 2: they controlled, they really controlled play over the last you

2702
02:25:50,920 --> 02:25:55,000
Speaker 2: like of the last like the third period part of

2703
02:25:55,080 --> 02:25:58,800
Speaker 2: the game makes you know, and McDavid's.

2704
02:25:58,920 --> 02:26:02,400
Speaker 5: Level, I think it's weird. Edmonton last year in the

2705
02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:04,840
Speaker 5: playoffs beat the Kings in the first round. They beat

2706
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:08,760
Speaker 5: uh Dallas in the conference finals, and they played Florida

2707
02:26:08,920 --> 02:26:11,480
Speaker 5: in the in the Stanley Cup. And this year they

2708
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:14,040
Speaker 5: beat the Kings in the first round. You know, they

2709
02:26:14,400 --> 02:26:16,440
Speaker 5: beat Dallas again in the conference finals, and I mean

2710
02:26:16,440 --> 02:26:19,480
Speaker 5: it's the same exact road that they had last year.

2711
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:23,680
Speaker 5: Just really interesting that the exact same path. Don't know

2712
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:26,240
Speaker 5: how that happens, but yeah, I think Edmonton's going to

2713
02:26:26,280 --> 02:26:26,400
Speaker 5: do it.

2714
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:26,960
Speaker 2: I really did.

2715
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:28,760
Speaker 5: Plus some root for him too, about that means anything,

2716
02:26:28,800 --> 02:26:29,840
Speaker 5: but I think Edmonton, Uh.

2717
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I don't on this show.

2718
02:26:34,200 --> 02:26:36,879
Speaker 3: Picked Edmonton at the beginning of the Stanley Cup playoffs too.

2719
02:26:36,920 --> 02:26:42,119
Speaker 3: That was you see, you know what it's got along,

2720
02:26:42,160 --> 02:26:44,119
Speaker 3: I got a long way to go. I picked Edmonton,

2721
02:26:44,160 --> 02:26:45,879
Speaker 3: but got a long way. I'm not counting my chickens.

2722
02:26:46,760 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Ve take a bow here.

2723
02:26:48,879 --> 02:26:50,119
Speaker 4: I picked at the beginning.

2724
02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 2: You did.

2725
02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:53,279
Speaker 5: I'm counting the chickens. The chickens are being counted.

2726
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:58,959
Speaker 2: It was impressive, very very good selection, very good. Hey,

2727
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:04,440
Speaker 2: real quick, because we were talking about this, what's the

2728
02:27:04,600 --> 02:27:06,840
Speaker 2: line if it's the Knicks, what's the line of it's

2729
02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:09,199
Speaker 2: if it's Indiana, it's gonna.

2730
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:10,840
Speaker 5: Be It's not gonna be really any any different. I

2731
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 5: mean I expect, which okay see, to probably be about

2732
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,240
Speaker 5: a seven to one favorite in the finals. Let me

2733
02:27:18,280 --> 02:27:20,680
Speaker 5: see it's even coming. It's fine. I'm expecting about minus

2734
02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:23,520
Speaker 5: seven hundred. I'm sure I'm gonna be somewhat close on that.

2735
02:27:23,640 --> 02:27:26,360
Speaker 5: Maybe it'll be minus seven fifty, maybe minus six fifty,

2736
02:27:26,600 --> 02:27:28,480
Speaker 5: but I know it's going to be probably in that

2737
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:32,560
Speaker 5: seven to one area. I think power rating wise, we

2738
02:27:32,680 --> 02:27:36,000
Speaker 5: have a situation where uh, right now, okay, okay, so

2739
02:27:36,080 --> 02:27:38,360
Speaker 5: he's my seven fifty. There you go, my seven fifty.

2740
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:41,480
Speaker 5: Uh and they have right now, yeah, the hypothetical series,

2741
02:27:41,879 --> 02:27:48,880
Speaker 5: if they play Indiana, it's minus seven seventy against Indiana,

2742
02:27:49,160 --> 02:27:51,280
Speaker 5: so I guess against the Knicks. Maybe they're saying it'll

2743
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:54,440
Speaker 5: be maybe minus seven twenty, so it'll be a little

2744
02:27:54,440 --> 02:27:56,720
Speaker 5: bit lower against the next. But again, I personally think

2745
02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:58,880
Speaker 5: the Nicks and Tasters are pretty pretty even.

2746
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:03,040
Speaker 2: I look at dis agree with if Man. If Indiana loses,

2747
02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:07,000
Speaker 2: then I don't see them going into garden winning. I mean,

2748
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:09,480
Speaker 2: let you talked about last year. Knits were banged up

2749
02:28:09,600 --> 02:28:10,039
Speaker 2: last year.

2750
02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:14,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand that. But but here's the thing is

2751
02:28:14,680 --> 02:28:18,119
Speaker 5: that Indiana has shown Listen, let's let's let's be scara.

2752
02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:21,600
Speaker 5: I mean, they played a Cleveland team that won sixty

2753
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:23,880
Speaker 5: seven games, and they smoke them, and they won three

2754
02:28:23,920 --> 02:28:25,240
Speaker 5: games in their building.

2755
02:28:27,640 --> 02:28:29,920
Speaker 2: I just don't a game seven in the garden. Well

2756
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:33,600
Speaker 2: you're coming, You're you've squadered a three one lead. I

2757
02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:34,760
Speaker 2: don't know that.

2758
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:36,760
Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question again. I'm gonna rest

2759
02:28:36,800 --> 02:28:38,840
Speaker 5: with you a little bit here. I'm not saying it's ideal.

2760
02:28:39,200 --> 02:28:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's ideal, but you know, think of

2761
02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:43,199
Speaker 5: the movie or whatever, Gladiator or one of those movies.

2762
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:48,480
Speaker 5: You're like, all right, guys, listen, yeah, no one is

2763
02:28:48,520 --> 02:28:50,760
Speaker 5: picking it. Everyone's going to he goes this, this is

2764
02:28:50,840 --> 02:28:53,160
Speaker 5: going to be our like watershed moment. We're gonna shut

2765
02:28:53,240 --> 02:28:55,760
Speaker 5: everyone up. We're gonna send this crowd home. It's gonna

2766
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:57,600
Speaker 5: be glorious. It's gonna be glorious.

2767
02:28:57,640 --> 02:28:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost.

2768
02:28:58,480 --> 02:29:02,280
Speaker 5: Like remember the last year against the Celtics, they were

2769
02:29:02,360 --> 02:29:05,560
Speaker 5: up three to one, Anthony right, they were up three

2770
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:09,000
Speaker 5: to one, and then they lost game six or it

2771
02:29:09,080 --> 02:29:10,760
Speaker 5: was two years No, it was two years ago. They

2772
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:12,680
Speaker 5: were they were up, they were up three to one.

2773
02:29:12,760 --> 02:29:15,680
Speaker 5: They lost Game six at home when dark White tipped

2774
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:17,800
Speaker 5: in a shot at the buzzer. Then they go into

2775
02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:20,200
Speaker 5: Game seven, they were actually they were up three nothing,

2776
02:29:20,280 --> 02:29:22,040
Speaker 5: I think even three.

2777
02:29:22,360 --> 02:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was three uh.

2778
02:29:23,240 --> 02:29:24,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they went to Game seven.

2779
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:27,120
Speaker 2: At the I'm not saying it's never been done. I

2780
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:29,600
Speaker 2: mean the Sixers did against the Celtics and years ago,

2781
02:29:30,200 --> 02:29:33,000
Speaker 2: so I know all about it. But I mean.

2782
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:37,959
Speaker 5: Those are Next year, the Knicks are gonna be favorede Yeah,

2783
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:40,640
Speaker 5: Knicks will be favored. Absolutely'll be favored. They'll probably be

2784
02:29:40,720 --> 02:29:43,440
Speaker 5: in that spot if they win this game, they'll probably

2785
02:29:43,480 --> 02:29:46,160
Speaker 5: be I'm sure there'll be more than than the four

2786
02:29:46,200 --> 02:29:49,039
Speaker 5: point favorite the Pacer made. The Knicks will probably minimum

2787
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 5: of a five, probably even higher because of what you're saying.

2788
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:54,760
Speaker 2: They look did make cover, but I just don't. I

2789
02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:57,080
Speaker 2: think the Knicks went, I mean any amy cover, but

2790
02:29:57,120 --> 02:30:00,040
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks would win. Real quick baseball. What

2791
02:30:00,040 --> 02:30:00,640
Speaker 2: do you got today?

2792
02:30:00,959 --> 02:30:04,920
Speaker 5: Give you a couple of things. Antonio ten Satala pitcher,

2793
02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:09,200
Speaker 5: Colorado rocks two good on miss guys. Colorado historically bad

2794
02:30:09,959 --> 02:30:12,040
Speaker 5: over under five and a half hits, giving up over

2795
02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:14,800
Speaker 5: five and a half hits all eleven games. This year's

2796
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:18,040
Speaker 5: giving up over eight hits the game. The Mets don't stink.

2797
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:20,959
Speaker 5: I love over five and a half. That's also over

2798
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:23,440
Speaker 5: two and a half runs. He's going over that eight

2799
02:30:23,480 --> 02:30:26,240
Speaker 5: of his last nine. And what's great about him he

2800
02:30:26,400 --> 02:30:28,720
Speaker 5: stinks on the road. He thinks that he stinks on

2801
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:32,119
Speaker 5: neutral fields. No offense to him, So to me, that's

2802
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:35,880
Speaker 5: just a really strong bet. Mike Soroke, I like over

2803
02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 5: two and a half runs. Unfortunately as a guy had

2804
02:30:38,840 --> 02:30:41,440
Speaker 5: a great rookie season. Ever since then, injuries have derailed him,

2805
02:30:43,240 --> 02:30:45,880
Speaker 5: a guy constantly having it already over five Arizona has

2806
02:30:45,920 --> 02:30:48,480
Speaker 5: a really good lineup, Like over two and a half

2807
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:51,520
Speaker 5: runs for Soroka, and I took under four runs in

2808
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:57,520
Speaker 5: schoobl versus Michael Walkup, Tigers versus Royals. I know Scooba

2809
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:02,320
Speaker 5: will pitch great, that's a given. Walking Holid pro been

2810
02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:07,480
Speaker 5: decent enough in low three r A. Again, anytime I

2811
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:10,000
Speaker 5: can get under four with school pitching, with a decent pitcher,

2812
02:31:10,200 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 5: I'm always going.

2813
02:31:10,840 --> 02:31:11,480
Speaker 3: To do it in the five.

2814
02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Anyone.

2815
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:13,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to go to the bullpens one school

2816
02:31:13,400 --> 02:31:15,840
Speaker 5: believes or once walk as. That mean I don't love

2817
02:31:15,879 --> 02:31:18,959
Speaker 5: you can't see his bullpen either. I'll take under four

2818
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:21,360
Speaker 5: runs in that game and take my chances, right.

2819
02:31:21,280 --> 02:31:24,360
Speaker 2: Buddy, Well, listen, good luck to you. Appreciated brain.

2820
02:31:24,400 --> 02:31:26,440
Speaker 5: Appreciate both of you every weekday, both you guys.

2821
02:31:28,360 --> 02:31:31,680
Speaker 2: Here he is the brain. Well, take a quick t

2822
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 2: we'll come right back. Fellas wrapping it up right here

2823
02:31:35,879 --> 02:31:41,960
Speaker 2: in Fox Sports Radio. Fellas, you're playing his song Fitzy

2824
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:50,360
Speaker 2: there he is blue eyes and Fitzy eyes he got perfect. Yeah.

2825
02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:52,920
Speaker 3: It just it just makes you realize that our four

2826
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:58,200
Speaker 3: hours are almost almost done, and there's what ninety six

2827
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:01,000
Speaker 3: more days so we got I don't know, quick math,

2828
02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:03,200
Speaker 3: what like twelve thirteen more of these and then Ben,

2829
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:04,520
Speaker 3: we'll be right into football seams.

2830
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:09,760
Speaker 2: Oh man, I can't wait. I get oot wait, hey, fellas,

2831
02:32:10,120 --> 02:32:13,280
Speaker 2: don't forget For the best pregame show every weekend, be

2832
02:32:13,360 --> 02:32:18,040
Speaker 2: sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio and uh It's

2833
02:32:18,160 --> 02:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Countdown presented by BEDMGM every Saturday and Sunday. Right there,

2834
02:32:23,480 --> 02:32:26,440
Speaker 2: nine am to noon Eastern six to nine Pacific, We'll

2835
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:29,080
Speaker 2: cut you down to all the biggest games. Tune in

2836
02:32:29,160 --> 02:32:31,800
Speaker 2: the Countdown presented by bed MGM every Saturday and Sunday

2837
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,400
Speaker 2: morning right after we get off the air, Fox Sports

2838
02:32:34,560 --> 02:32:38,440
Speaker 2: Radio and the radio app. You gotta check it out. Yeah,

2839
02:32:38,520 --> 02:32:41,760
Speaker 2: forgive me, I'm I'm we are playing. I just got

2840
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:46,200
Speaker 2: word that the fields are open. They were like giant

2841
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:50,360
Speaker 2: puddles fitsie. So but apparently they got they were able

2842
02:32:50,400 --> 02:32:52,640
Speaker 2: to dry the field out a little bit. So our

2843
02:32:52,720 --> 02:32:55,720
Speaker 2: tournament is on. So as soon as we get off,

2844
02:32:56,560 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, how we feel? How are we feeling about that? No,

2845
02:33:01,040 --> 02:33:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I want to play and it's going to

2846
02:33:04,959 --> 02:33:07,600
Speaker 2: be nice tomorrow too. So we have the like what

2847
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:11,199
Speaker 2: happens is these tournaments, like we have two games today

2848
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:15,960
Speaker 2: and then you get slotted right and then you could

2849
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:20,000
Speaker 2: play upwards to you know, anywhere from two to four,

2850
02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:23,560
Speaker 2: two to three or four more games depending on where

2851
02:33:23,600 --> 02:33:27,840
Speaker 2: you're come in at, uh for the championship, So like, well,

2852
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:30,480
Speaker 2: I'll beat the field for a little good bit today

2853
02:33:30,520 --> 02:33:36,600
Speaker 2: and then all day tomorrow. I love it is that is.

2854
02:33:39,040 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 3: It's a beautiful bonding thing for you, for you as

2855
02:33:41,240 --> 02:33:43,040
Speaker 3: a dad, and it makes you a great dad and

2856
02:33:43,480 --> 02:33:45,680
Speaker 3: great with the boys and the family to do it,

2857
02:33:45,760 --> 02:33:46,120
Speaker 3: for sure.

2858
02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:47,360
Speaker 7: It is.

2859
02:33:47,920 --> 02:33:53,880
Speaker 3: It makes me appreciate it truly, how much life is

2860
02:33:54,040 --> 02:33:57,480
Speaker 3: sucked up by those sorts of things as you get older.

2861
02:33:57,560 --> 02:34:00,280
Speaker 3: It's just you know, I was talking to some the

2862
02:34:00,320 --> 02:34:03,400
Speaker 3: other day about the concept right now, especially for younger

2863
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:05,400
Speaker 3: people that are growing up in a work at home world.

2864
02:34:06,160 --> 02:34:08,760
Speaker 3: For so many people they're trying to figure out, you know,

2865
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:12,360
Speaker 3: how do I balance, Like, you know, companies want all

2866
02:34:12,440 --> 02:34:14,160
Speaker 3: this time, and by the time I go to work

2867
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:16,560
Speaker 3: and do I don't have any time to myself. And

2868
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:19,240
Speaker 3: I just think back to what it was like for

2869
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:21,600
Speaker 3: most of us growing up and how little time our

2870
02:34:21,720 --> 02:34:24,440
Speaker 3: parents had to do anything. By the time, like if

2871
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:26,880
Speaker 3: you drive an hour to work, as many people that

2872
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:28,640
Speaker 3: work in big cities too, and then you work your

2873
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:30,840
Speaker 3: eight hours and you know, nine hours because you don't

2874
02:34:30,840 --> 02:34:32,160
Speaker 3: get pay for your lunch hour and you drive your

2875
02:34:32,160 --> 02:34:35,160
Speaker 3: hour pack and then you get home, like you're making

2876
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:38,000
Speaker 3: dinner for your kids, and then you're you're out of time,

2877
02:34:38,200 --> 02:34:40,360
Speaker 3: right like and helping with the homework and you're out

2878
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:42,360
Speaker 3: of time. And then the weekends are all about you know,

2879
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I'm taking my kid to this game and this game

2880
02:34:44,040 --> 02:34:46,400
Speaker 3: and this game and this game. And it's just wild

2881
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 3: how much of life is occupied by the necessary things

2882
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:51,760
Speaker 3: that have to be done and how little is just

2883
02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:53,720
Speaker 3: occupied your feed up and enjoying.

2884
02:34:54,120 --> 02:34:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's none of that, man, Like you know, listen,

2885
02:34:56,879 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 2: it's a fly my period of time though, right, And

2886
02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:03,680
Speaker 2: it depends what sports are, you know, and it depends

2887
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:07,520
Speaker 2: what sports your kids are into, like you know, the

2888
02:35:07,920 --> 02:35:12,400
Speaker 2: the uh you know, flick, we're starting football soon and

2889
02:35:12,879 --> 02:35:16,880
Speaker 2: uh for youth it's a little different. You know, high

2890
02:35:16,879 --> 02:35:21,080
Speaker 2: school are already working out now and they'll you know,

2891
02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:25,520
Speaker 2: they've been lifting and it'll start workouts football actually workouts.

2892
02:35:26,160 --> 02:35:30,440
Speaker 2: We'll start uh this week or actually next week, and

2893
02:35:30,720 --> 02:35:32,760
Speaker 2: so they'll they'll have you know, three days a week

2894
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:36,520
Speaker 2: where they'll be doing football stuff for youth because I

2895
02:35:36,600 --> 02:35:41,920
Speaker 2: help coach youth. Youth will start in July, so we'll

2896
02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:44,000
Speaker 2: do July and it's and then you know, once we're

2897
02:35:44,040 --> 02:35:47,480
Speaker 2: into it, like we're five days a week and then

2898
02:35:47,840 --> 02:35:50,560
Speaker 2: five nights a week, and then but it's well it's close,

2899
02:35:50,600 --> 02:35:53,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's close to the house, so it's you know,

2900
02:35:53,360 --> 02:35:57,480
Speaker 2: six to eight practice usually, you know, sometimes you know

2901
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:02,080
Speaker 2: to a thirty. But like I see these hockey parents,

2902
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:05,560
Speaker 2: my god, like they're track like you think, like I

2903
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:11,000
Speaker 2: go for baseball. They're traveling constantly. That we have two tornments,

2904
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:14,480
Speaker 2: we have one in South Carolina and one in Cooperstown

2905
02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:18,640
Speaker 2: this year. But like hockey parents are on the road

2906
02:36:18,760 --> 02:36:22,959
Speaker 2: every week. Who's going to New England, Who's going to Chicago,

2907
02:36:23,000 --> 02:36:26,199
Speaker 2: Who's going to Canada? Like that's a real commitment.

2908
02:36:29,320 --> 02:36:32,960
Speaker 3: It's just it truly is crazy to me because you

2909
02:36:33,160 --> 02:36:36,560
Speaker 3: just you wonder how anybody has ever, how generations made

2910
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:39,840
Speaker 3: time for anything in life. And I don't have the

2911
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:41,920
Speaker 3: answer to it. Like I want everybody to have a

2912
02:36:41,959 --> 02:36:44,840
Speaker 3: better life, each generation to have a better, easier time

2913
02:36:44,920 --> 02:36:47,760
Speaker 3: than the generation before. I'm still trying to figure out

2914
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:50,600
Speaker 3: how in the heck, Like, you know, there was that period,

2915
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:54,240
Speaker 3: my great grandparents period or my grandparents period, where like

2916
02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:56,440
Speaker 3: most of the time only one person worked, so the

2917
02:36:56,520 --> 02:36:58,800
Speaker 3: other person took a lot of that responsibility on once

2918
02:36:58,879 --> 02:37:02,640
Speaker 3: we became, you know, a world where by necessity particularly,

2919
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,560
Speaker 3: so many people are like my parents both worked my

2920
02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:07,800
Speaker 3: whole life growing up. I don't know how they had

2921
02:37:07,879 --> 02:37:10,800
Speaker 3: time to breathe. Yeah, I just when you look at

2922
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:14,760
Speaker 3: the commitment that my music took compared to everything else

2923
02:37:14,879 --> 02:37:16,440
Speaker 3: on top of work and top of life.

2924
02:37:16,520 --> 02:37:17,000
Speaker 2: God, I don't know.

2925
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:18,200
Speaker 3: I just don't know how parents did it.

2926
02:37:18,720 --> 02:37:19,760
Speaker 4: I don't know how parents do it.

2927
02:37:19,800 --> 02:37:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how parents were well.

2928
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:23,120
Speaker 2: And the sports has got changed as it's going on,

2929
02:37:23,240 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean back in the you know, but this is

2930
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:28,720
Speaker 2: a good problem to have. I mean, it's a paying Yeah,

2931
02:37:28,760 --> 02:37:32,160
Speaker 2: it'sn't get me wrong, but you know, other generations they're

2932
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:35,640
Speaker 2: worried about food eating. So everybody that will do it

2933
02:37:35,720 --> 02:37:38,720
Speaker 2: for us, have a great day. We love you, See

2934
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:39,520
Speaker 2: you next Saturday.