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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out podcast,

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Speaker 1: That's Me, That's the Show, Thursday, April two, late afternoon recording.

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Speaker 1: This got a decent amount going on in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Alton Smith signs. I went through a Mike Sando article

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Speaker 1: he talked to a bunch of executives around the league

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Speaker 1: and just their thoughts on every team in free agency.

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Speaker 1: I pulled some of the more interesting quotes, uh, some

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Speaker 1: other stuff just in terms of the draft obviously, some

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Speaker 1: topics flying around in terms of two up is Jannick

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Speaker 1: and Doc Way gonna get traded? What's gonna happen with

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Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzil And then of course the Middlecoff mailbag at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle. You can slide right

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Speaker 1: into the d m s and ask me anything you want.

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Speaker 1: Be a little honest. It's a little weird, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing a football podcast in the middle of listen in

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Speaker 1: my adult life. Probably one of the darkest days in

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Speaker 1: American history, right, I mean, we had ten million people

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Speaker 1: filed filed for unemployment. And I'm keeping it positive here.

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Speaker 1: I I'm feeling good. Luckily, I happen to be lucky

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Speaker 1: to do a job that I basically work for myself

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Speaker 1: that I can do it at home. I basically quarantined

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Speaker 1: before quarantine became a thing. But my friends and family

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Speaker 1: are small business people. Uh my my brother works in

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Speaker 1: a small business. Luckily he's a farmer, and you need

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Speaker 1: to keep the food going. But I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you guys listening are in industries, whether you're you

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Speaker 1: work for someone and you're losing your job or getting furloughed,

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Speaker 1: whether you are run a business that's shut down. These

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Speaker 1: are you know, crazy times. And I don't really know

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Speaker 1: what to say. I mean, you can say keep your

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Speaker 1: head up and it's all that stuff, but it's tough.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta shut down the doors. You're losing

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Speaker 1: your business, you're losing your job. Uh, these are this

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Speaker 1: is wild. I mean, it's it's really that simple. It's

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Speaker 1: really really a wild time. I know, for me personally,

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Speaker 1: to two incidents that really stand out in my life

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Speaker 1: would be nine eleven. To be completely honest, nine eleven

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Speaker 1: did not hit me like it would now, not even close.

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Speaker 1: I was in high school. I think I was. I

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Speaker 1: think it wasn't. Sophomore year of high school. You're just

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Speaker 1: so naive to the way the world works and the impact.

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Speaker 1: Obviously you understand the impact of people dying in the planes,

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Speaker 1: but the overall impact of society, I couldn't even begin

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Speaker 1: to grasp it. And then in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: when the housing crisis, I just graduated college. I was

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Speaker 1: a graduate assistant frist and say I had no money.

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Speaker 1: I was not a homeowner. I had no money in

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Speaker 1: the stock market. I was worth nothing. So that that

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Speaker 1: affected me. Obviously, nine eleven was the probably the most

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Speaker 1: powerful event of my lifetime. Like you just see people dying.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand eight nine Fresno State, we started furlowing

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Speaker 1: people and people were over their head in their house

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Speaker 1: and having to short sale their house. Like you understand,

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Speaker 1: I could kind of see it was crazy, But again

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Speaker 1: it didn't impact me. This one impacts me because I

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Speaker 1: see it with my friends, all my friends now that

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Speaker 1: I went to college with, or grew up with, or

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Speaker 1: my age, They're working jobs, getting laid off, their companies

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Speaker 1: are holding on by a thread. People, my people that

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Speaker 1: listen to me, that I interact with on social media,

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Speaker 1: I feel it. I I get it. Hell, it's impacted me.

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Speaker 1: On my other podcast, advertisers moving around. It's crazy at times.

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Speaker 1: And just know, if you going through tough times, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about you, We're all thinking about you, and you

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Speaker 1: just you know me. I'm I'm a big capitalist economy guy.

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Speaker 1: It's I hate this coronavirus. We all do. And starting

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Speaker 1: to see the impact of what it's doing now to

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Speaker 1: and I talk about football and there is It's really

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Speaker 1: the only thing that's happened over the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: that thought maybe they should push it back, because I

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily think free agency or the draft. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Colin went on a brand about it gives hope to me.

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Speaker 1: The Corona going away gives hope to me. Saying people

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Speaker 1: I think the draft is a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: them hosting the draft, even though it is, like my

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Speaker 1: big thing is if they're gonna make your horse to

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Speaker 1: the draft. If you're a general manager, you got what

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Speaker 1: if you've got to do it over zoom, if you've

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Speaker 1: get every general manager. The NFL is not a lazy league.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is not a league it loves time off.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a league full of grinders, general managers, head

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Speaker 1: coaches that they're working countless hours seven three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Coaches and gms live in the office. Scouts work year round.

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Speaker 1: These guys love to work, mainly because if you work

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Speaker 1: you do love it. You know. It's not one of

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Speaker 1: to even if you are a player, to ultimately get

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Speaker 1: So these guys love what they do, and I think

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Speaker 1: all of them, if they could vote, could you move

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Speaker 1: it back a little bit? Would vote thirty two to nothing.

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Speaker 1: Now the owners, the the league office, I understand because

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. Twitter forced ESPN's hand. You know what forced

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Speaker 1: ESPN's hand. They don't have any inventory, they have nothing

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Speaker 1: to show nothing. You know what I watched the other

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Speaker 1: day the nine World Series Kirby Pucket, John Smoltz. It

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Speaker 1: it like it's it's gonna get enormous ratings, probably the

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Speaker 1: highest rated, you know draft ever, but I do understand

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Speaker 1: both sides of the argument. The more intense this thing goes, right,

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Speaker 1: there was an agent, a prominent agent who lost his parents,

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Speaker 1: And I don't really I don't know what else to

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Speaker 1: I I I can only watch so much news in general,

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the draft ends

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Speaker 1: and we're quarantined for another month. You know it Just

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Speaker 1: I guess it is what it is. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: football in the fall, it's I'm recording this on April second,

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Speaker 1: Let's just see what happens. And in April early May,

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Speaker 1: let's just take a month by month, day by day,

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Speaker 1: you think about all the Smith joining the Cowboys. My

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Speaker 1: But I had a front row seat for like three

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Speaker 1: but it happened, and Alden Smith has just one of

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Speaker 1: I've walked by him before in a league full of freaks.

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at the end of the day. Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 1: he's taken gambles his entire life. So a gamble that

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty risky gamble, because if a Marie Cooper

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Speaker 1: no risk flyers on guys like all the can be

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Speaker 1: on you, Jerry, Like you had enough of a resume

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Speaker 1: and a history of this player to go. No one

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Speaker 1: to blame but the cowboys. If this guy gets in trouble,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what he told you. I've

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Speaker 1: turned around my life. I'm a better human. Every person

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Speaker 1: they're at rock bottom. Some guys turn their life around.

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Speaker 1: And maybe this guy has had enough rock bottoms. But

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Speaker 1: I always struggle with guys that have a history of addiction.

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Speaker 1: When you're in a situation like this and it's I'm

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Speaker 1: all for help, I'm all for multiple chances. If it's

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how substance they are, substantive

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Speaker 1: sure happened. It was he said, she said, but that's

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Speaker 1: also there. So there are multiple red flags with this

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Speaker 1: my career on taking chances. And really that's what the

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Speaker 1: It's not a place in society that, like, you know what, kids,

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Speaker 1: call him, like from NFL standards, tough. He ain't Michael Irvin,

425
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Speaker 1: he ain't Terrell Owens like. He's just a little softer

426
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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be fine. You'll get balls. He's a

427
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: freak talent. But it's just sixty million dollars. It's like, Jerry,

428
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: why did you wait so long to sign him? Especially

429
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: once you give the first round pick for him. I'm

430
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Speaker 1: a big believer in this, and maybe general managers would say, well,

431
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: John easier said than done. The moment I'm gonna trade

432
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Speaker 1: a first round pick for a guy, I have to

433
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Speaker 1: have a contract extension done, like the Forest Buckner done

434
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: the moment they got him. Chicago Bears get Khalil Mack done.

435
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like doing what the Houston

436
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: Texans are doing with Laramy Tunzil. We'll talk about that later.

437
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: What the l A Rams are doing with Jalen Ramsey.

438
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: I like trading for you and signing you immediately. The

439
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner Seattle did it a couple of times when

440
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Speaker 1: they traded for like Jimmy Graham extend him. I like

441
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: doing that, like getting a guy under contract the moment

442
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman trades for Darius Slight extends him. Now, obviously

443
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: he didn't trade a first round pick. But when I

444
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: trade for a guy I really like, I extend and

445
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: then I get him at a at a cheaper rate

446
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Speaker 1: than I do at a market rate. Once his contract ends,

447
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: the number skyrockets. The Colton Rivers one thing, a couple

448
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: executives said, and I think we have to be aware

449
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: of this. I love Philip Rivers. He's a badass. I've

450
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: watched way too many Charger games over the last decade now.

451
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: He's been hit or missed over the years, but when

452
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: he's on, he's an awesome player to root for as

453
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Speaker 1: a fan. And that's the first and foremost what I

454
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Speaker 1: am when it comes to football. That's that's why I

455
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: talk about it. Like if I wasn't a fan of football,

456
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: it just this wouldn't be. I wouldn't do this. I

457
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: love football at my core. It's like I love sports.

458
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a big sports fan, and I

459
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: think as sports fans we really value when guys we

460
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: feel like they give a ship as much as we do,

461
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: they care as much as we do. It's why the

462
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: biggest legends, right Brady Jordan's, Kobe Manning, Tiger. It's like, yeah,

463
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: those guys care more than I do. If you're like

464
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: the die hard Patriot and even you'd be like, yeah,

465
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: Brady liked football more than me, and I love and

466
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: I love the Pats, right, Or you're a Bulls fan,

467
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: you like, yeah, Michael liked it more than me. But

468
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: then there are guys you're just like, I don't know,

469
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: Rivers always a guy. He's given you everything he has.

470
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Speaker 1: You can't like football any more than Phillip Rivers like football.

471
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Speaker 1: But he's thirty eight, thirty nine years old. His arm

472
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Speaker 1: strength has never been great, and he looked really really

473
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Speaker 1: old last year, and he's always kind of had an

474
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Speaker 1: old game. There's a chance he shot. And I think

475
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Speaker 1: the point in this article was like they kind of

476
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: sold out all for this year, right, and then they

477
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Speaker 1: give away their first round pick to get the Forest Buck,

478
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: like they gotta be good and if you're just a

479
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: one and done team in the playoffs, you go, was

480
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: it worth it? That's a good question. We're gonna find out.

481
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: But there's a chance that Rivers is just by about

482
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Speaker 1: I don't know, November one, you know, eight nine games

483
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: and we realize, yeah, it's just he's shot. We forget

484
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: sometimes in two thousand and twenty, like, being old is

485
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: not easy in pro sports. It's not normal to be

486
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: in your forties and playing pro sports. Hell, it's not

487
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: able to do like what Lebron is doing at thirty five,

488
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Speaker 1: seventeen years in and still look like the best player

489
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Speaker 1: in the world. It's not normal. Usually, Like I get

490
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: modern medicine. I mean, Tiger Woods had backfused knee and

491
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: he's still when the Master's last year. Like some of

492
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Speaker 1: these I get it at times have changed, so you

493
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: gotta look at age a little differently. I still am

494
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: a believer, though, is like, not every thirty eight year

495
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: old is the same. Roethlisberger at thirty eight and Tom

496
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Brady at thirty eight are not the same. Even Philip

497
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Speaker 1: Rivers has taken a lot of hits. He is a

498
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Speaker 1: weathered older guy. Now. I don't think he's I don't

499
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: think he drinks, clearly doesn't smoke or anything. But to me,

500
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Speaker 1: the wear and tear on the body is big. One

501
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: thing someone said, I disagree with this. Marcus Mariotta, one

502
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: of the executives, said that he thinks he'll start ten games.

503
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Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen, but it's a pretty

504
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Speaker 1: big red flag that I think a general manager brought up.

505
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Speaker 1: If you thought Derek Carr was your franchise quarterback, why

506
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Speaker 1: would you make Marcus Mariotta the highest paid backup in

507
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Speaker 1: the league. Like if you have a young franchise quarterback,

508
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Speaker 1: a guy under thirty who's under contract, why wouldn't you

509
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: buy like a case Keenum or something for like two

510
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: or three million or three or four million and use

511
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: that extra money on other players. It's pretty and I

512
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't really think about that because I

513
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: think car is better than Mariota. But does gridn't think that?

514
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: Because why would you have a contingency such a highly

515
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: highly paid contingency plan You could easily just get a

516
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: lower level guy. Maybe they don't think Derek is their

517
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Speaker 1: franchise guy, and you know, knowing people in the organization,

518
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Speaker 1: I think they go back and forth. I don't think

519
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: with o t As being gone, there's no way Mario

520
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: like Derek starting week one. That's a lock. There's just

521
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: no way for Mariota to learn the offense. They won't

522
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: have any practice till training camp. To me, the question

523
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: is what happens if there two and three or three

524
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Speaker 1: and five in the new stadium and it's just not

525
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: good Vegas. Is you talk about a recession. No economy

526
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: gets hit harder in you know, tough times than Vegas,

527
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: especially now. I mean the casinos are shut down first time.

528
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: Sin's like JFK Sash Nation. There's gonna be pressure on

529
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: them to win and Derek to play well, and if

530
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Speaker 1: he doesn't, they got a guy that started a lot

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Speaker 1: of games. The Jets. The executives kind of crushed Joe

532
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Douglas for like fan and McGovern I think it's how

533
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: you say his name again. At this point in my

534
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: scouting career, I'm not locked in. I mean, obviously I've

535
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: seen a lot of fan because he played for Seattle,

536
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: but McGovern like, I'm not breaking down every offensive lineman,

537
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: but they kind of crushed him for these guys being

538
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: pretty average. The point is this offensive line is not fixed,

539
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: and their offensive line last year then the Cardinals probably

540
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: missing some teams, but they probably the two worst offensive

541
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: lines in the league, and picking out eleven. When I

542
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: did a mock draft on the Athletic I was like, yeah,

543
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna give the New York Jets

544
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy because they need a star wide receiver form

545
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: to throw. To the way of reading this, the executives

546
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: thinks their offensive line still stay, so you could probably

547
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: justify taking a tackle. Pretty interesting take on Brady to Tampa.

548
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: And when Peyton Manning fell off a cliff in two thousand,

549
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: a year sixteen, it was it the fifteen season and

550
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: then it was the sixteen Super Bowl. So he's been

551
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: done now for four or five years. His arm was

552
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: done and he never had a great arm, but he

553
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: could not throw that year. He could never move. But

554
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: Brady could never move either. Neither could Philip rivers the

555
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: difference between Brady and some of those guys and Breeze.

556
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: He has a big arm. Now he doesn't have like

557
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers arm, but he got a pretty damn good arm.

558
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: He has a different level arm than those guys. Is

559
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: if he was a picture, is he throwing nine? No,

560
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: but he's cruising in five where Manning was like even

561
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: in his prime, probably like ninety, but he was so

562
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: accurate it didn't matter. It's a great Maddox pinpoint, right,

563
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: you can get away with throwing ninety if you know

564
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: exactly where it's gonna go. If you throw five, you

565
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: get a lot room for error. Now, if you factor

566
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: and you throw and you can paint, it's a rap.

567
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: And the point these executives were saying is like Brady

568
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: is a multiplier, like Peyton when he showed him to Denver,

569
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Speaker 1: He'll elevate everyone, just from a standard standpoint and a

570
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: work ethics standpoint. And a lot of people are like,

571
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: is he shot? Is he shot? His arm is not shot.

572
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: So if they can protect them, they definitely have the weapons.

573
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: They can win with them. Now can they kind of

574
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Speaker 1: meld this offense of Bruce Arians and what Tom wants

575
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: to do with the wide receivers in the middle of Corona?

576
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: There are going to be challenges. But every executive said,

577
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: which I think every human that has common sense that

578
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: watched Tom last year, Hugh shot, Well, what do you mean,

579
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: like he gets sacked because he can't move. Well, he's

580
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: never been able to move. He's been slow since he

581
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: came in the league in two thousands. But his arm

582
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: is still good. Now is he throwing ninety five? Now? Okay,

583
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: maybe he's throwing ninety three. You can still get guys

584
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: out throwing ninety three. And when you add Mike Evans,

585
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you had O. J. Howard, you had Godwin, you keep

586
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: cam Bright. Maybe you drafted him a good running back.

587
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: Now if you can protect him like you can win

588
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: with them now the offense and the one the one

589
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: thing they brought up is like Bruce Arian Staff. They're

590
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: not Belichick. They're not in the office sun up till sundown,

591
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: burning the midnight. Oh Arians tells guys to go home,

592
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: which I do think in some realm it's healthy. Brady's

593
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: used to I can text Josh Mthdaniels at five thirty

594
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: in the morning, I can text him at midnight. Peyton

595
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: was notorious. I remember when I when I got on

596
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: the road, I'd run into people that were in Denver

597
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: and Indy and I just, I just, I mean it

598
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning. I want to know all about him there,

599
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Like he could wear people out. We had to give

600
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: him specific coaches to break down his film, you know,

601
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: like he got his own quality control guys. He's just maniacal,

602
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, in a good way, in a way of

603
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: like he's got high freaking standards. And Peyton's point of

604
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: difference always was I gottaut think you because I can't

605
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: out physically you. I'm not gonna throw these Aaron Rodgers

606
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: sixty yard ropes. I gotta know exactly what you're doing.

607
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, the the football I I guess it was

608
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: a football life. But the top one hundred when Brady

609
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: was in there, I guess was Ed Reid and Belichick

610
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: and and Belichick saying the greatest player ever saw was

611
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Ed Reid full and Peyton mannings all they're playing chess

612
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady I would say definitely the second half

613
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: of his career. He was the ultimate combo. It's why

614
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: he passed Peyton of being physically more superior, because they

615
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: had a much better arm and the same level work

616
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: ethic in mind film officionado and just the ultimate grinder.

617
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: He could text Josh McDaniels at all hours of the

618
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: night and I just wonder the mesh, like, is Tampa

619
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Speaker 1: ready for what they're getting? Because because Tom is a

620
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: grinder and we're about to find out. Okay, let's bang

621
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Speaker 1: out another just I'm gonna go rapid fire on just

622
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: stories that I saw today. I guess maybe over the

623
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: last couple of days. Mike Garifolo of NFL Network bald

624
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Guy Beard one of the one of the rare guys

625
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: that can pull out younger guy can pull off a

626
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: col de sac. Some of us were gonna shave our heads,

627
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: said that to A medical check looks outstanding. I think

628
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknown information with TOA. We're going

629
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: to find out on draft day what the NFL thinks

630
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 1: of him. I assume he's gonna get drafted somewhere between

631
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: two and three and four. Right, A team is gonna

632
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: trade up to ensure they get him if he's healthy,

633
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: if he's got some major red flag not out of

634
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: the Roman possibility he drops, and if he drops, it

635
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: would just be clearly the hip which this is gonna

636
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Speaker 1: be a type of scenario or situation that teams aren't

637
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna show their hand right now. So we won't know

638
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: until the draft what the NFL thinks of tah Jack's

639
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: want a first round pick for Yannick in doc way,

640
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: I just don't get the Jaguars one of the better

641
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: players they've drafted in recent memory. I think he was

642
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: a third round pick, so he's going into his I

643
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: guess he just finished his fourth year, right, he's franchise, right, now,

644
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Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I mean, they are

645
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: just a disaster as a Franchi, absolute disaster. They draft

646
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: in the top six seven picks every freaking year except

647
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: the one outlier season they've had. All these premium picks,

648
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: all of them are gone. Then they land a guy

649
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: not in the first round who's sweet and he wants

650
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: to leave. It's just what a what a just train

651
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: wreck franchise. Laramie Tunzel wants to be the highest paid

652
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the league. Here's my issue. The moment

653
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: you trade two ones and a two, this happened to

654
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and this happened to Laramie Tunzel. They obviously

655
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: got Kenny Stills in the deal as well with Laramie Tunzel,

656
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: but still, that was a little more add on that.

657
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: You could say Kenny Still is probably worth a third

658
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: or fourth, where Laramie Tunzel was worth the majority of

659
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: that fright, that was for Laramie Tunzil. The moment you

660
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: trade that much for Laramie Tunzel or I put Jalen

661
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Ramsey in this category too, you have to extend him immediately.

662
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: You don't wait until after the season to start figuring

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00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: it out. If the Rams were going to trade for

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00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, they should have had a deal set in place.

665
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: It's not worth giving up that much unless he's signing

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00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: on the dotted line. You just can't do it like

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00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunzel. Now, granted, Laramie Tunel was under contract, a

668
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: little easier to deal with. I guess Jalen Ramsey is

669
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: two in his fifth year. But you let these guys

670
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: get to the final year their contract, they start getting

671
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: leverage the moment you trade all these picks. It's one

672
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: thing to like trade a second or third round pick.

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00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: You could argue, like how he could have just played

674
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,959
Speaker 1: it out once he trades the third in the fifth form.

675
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: But when you get when you trade that much first

676
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: round picks, multiple first round picks, and you don't extend

677
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: them on the spot, it's bad business, period, point blank,

678
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: end of story. Bad NFL business. Because if you're willing

679
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: to trade multiple ones for a player, you want to

680
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: make that guy a long term, valuable asset for your team, Well,

681
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: you want to get him under contract immediately so that

682
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: deal looks cheaper the faster and the longer you have

683
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: him on your team. Khalil Mack right, you get him,

684
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: you sign him. Laremy Tunzel, you get him, and then

685
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: you wait to sign him, and now he's got you.

686
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Kind of been over the barrel. He's in control. Clowney,

687
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: his asking prices dropping, no ship Like Clowney, the market

688
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: was the market, like we just that was the market.

689
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Well I'm worth this, No, actually you're not. You literally

690
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: hit free agency, countless teams that needed pass rushers, breaking

691
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: guys off. The Colts who desperately needed pass rush traded

692
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: their first round pick and then paid Buckner kind of

693
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: a less money than I would have imagined. Fifty seven

694
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: total guaranteed. Did sign a shorter deal though four years

695
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: twenty one per can become a free agent when he's

696
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: like twenty nine and a half thirty years old, so

697
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: he's probably thinking I'll cash in again. Like we're seeing

698
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: the market here, Clowney, You're not an eighteen million dollar player.

699
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Buckner is much more consistent, a better player than you,

700
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: and he's an interior player. Like i'd say, Clowney, probably

701
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: fifteen million feels about fair for him. I'd feel comfortable

702
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: giving him like four years sixty million, fifteen a year.

703
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: It's like, well, he never signed that well, and I

704
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: won't get clowning because I ain't given him five years

705
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: eighteen a year not doing it. Can't do it, won't

706
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: do it, just I couldn't do it. Derrick Henry signs

707
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: his tender. Smart move. You know we saw with Levan

708
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: Bell sat out when his franchise didn't get any of

709
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: the cash. We saw with Melvin Gordon bitching aman and

710
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: didn't get any of the cash or missed out on something.

711
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, when someone's offering you over ten million dollars

712
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: to play running back, even if you're worth more than that,

713
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: because you're a really good player and on a one

714
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: year deal you're probably worth fifteen million dollars to at

715
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: least definitely the Titans. You gotta sign franchise tag money.

716
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: It's all guaranteed. You get every penny. Uh and even

717
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: if you play the next two years on the franchise tag,

718
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: which is beneficial for Tennessee, it's been a fig for

719
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: you too. You could rack up twenty two million dollars

720
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: in two seasons. Look at Melvin Gordon, he could barely

721
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: get like ten million dollars guaranteed. Levian Bell, who has

722
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: a much longer track record, than you only got twenty

723
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: seven total when he hit the open market. The market

724
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: for running backs unless Jerry Jones is your general manager

725
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: slash owner. Just isn't that good? Eli Apple Vegas? You know,

726
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: kind of think Michael Brocker's and the Ravens, and we

727
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: see another one with Eli Apple just contract. I don't

728
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: really know all the details. Besides, he's just not going

729
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: there anymore. Weird times with Corona man. No, uh, people

730
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: aren't signing actual contracts. I guess, even though some are,

731
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady signed the actual contract. I might have

732
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: to text some people in the league, like why are

733
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: some guys putting pen to paper and other guys aren't?

734
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: Is it because the maybe the physical scared off the team?

735
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: There was some unknown I don't know, but Eli Apple's

736
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: no longer a Raider. Okay, let's get to the Middlecoff

737
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff Instagram handle d M why

738
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: it open slide right in same as a Twitter handle.

739
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: How come teams like the Dolphins or the Chargers aren't

740
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: jumping on Jamis Winston for a one year deal if

741
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a draft chance and draft to ah

742
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: not knowing if he's gonna be a percent. You could

743
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: have a decent starter to play at least for this

744
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: year and allow to it to learn and get healthy.

745
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Worst case scenario to it doesn't pan out, but you

746
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: have a legit starter for the next few years, and

747
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: who knows. They make his lightning in a bottle and

748
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: Jamis is a totally different player after lazing. We've seen

749
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: time and time again a young player getting thrown into

750
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: a bad situation they never developed. I agree. I I

751
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of upside there with Jamis. I'm

752
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: googling his name right now. I think Jamis is younger

753
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: than a lot of people think. People will probably like

754
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: how old Jamis. A lot of people be like, oh,

755
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: he's twenty nine. Jamis Winston just turned twenty six, had

756
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: a ton of head coaches. The one thing all the

757
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: guys in Tampa do is they rave about how hard

758
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: he works. Now, his decision making is not good, but

759
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: there is some off the field questions. Here's it to

760
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: be fair, he he got in troubled by having an

761
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: interaction with an Uber driver, a female Uber driver. I'm

762
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: entertained by watching Jamis. If I was a decision maker,

763
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: it would be hard to overcome that I know he.

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00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I think I saw Clyde Christiansan. Christiansen, the quarterback coach

765
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: for Bruce Arians, was on Pat McAfee show. McAfee retweeted

766
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: it and he loves them. But I I don't know, man.

767
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I get he just got married. I get he's married

768
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: his high school girlfriend. He's had some issues, so there

769
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: are some maturity issues. Now, sometimes guys mature a little slower,

770
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: and maybe he finally figured it out. But I think

771
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: there are some fair criticisms now just his talent in

772
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: a bottle. I'm with you. If he could figure it out,

773
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: if he big if but if he could, you'd have

774
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: a legitimate starter. Uh. I know you were asking for questions,

775
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: so I have one. What are your thoughts on the

776
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: state of the quarterbacks in the a f C East.

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00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: Which quarterback will run the tables this year? Who could

778
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: fall off? Well, it's kind of a weird group, right.

779
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: You got Josh Allen, who's the most physically gifted, but

780
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: he's inaccurate down the field. But they've given Stefan Dicks,

781
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: who can be a deva and we'll see it's the

782
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: most inaccurate quarterback he's ever played with. Then you got

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00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who I'm a big Sam Donald guy. I

784
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: think he's really really talented. Hard to totally judge him.

785
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: Last year did get Mono? Uh, offensive line stinks. They

786
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: don't have any skill guys. Adam Gaze might just be

787
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: an idiot. They got issues, the franchise got issues. And

788
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I just don't know who the quarterback is

789
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: because a Toa is a Herbert. Could somehow they land

790
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow by trading their entire draft to get to one.

791
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, so there to me is a question.

792
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: And Jared Stidham, I've never seen him take a snap,

793
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: so it's hard for me to say anything about Jared

794
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: Stidham and anything about Miami's quarterback. I like in theory,

795
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: Sam darnaldmore, but I'll be honest Jo Josh Allen's growing

796
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: on me a lot. And if you've listened to this podcast,

797
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: when Sean McDermott came on, I just believe in Sean McDermott.

798
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: I think he's the right coach, that that type guy

799
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: to be around Josh. They clearly believe in him a lot,

800
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: so I would probably go right now Josh, Sam and

801
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: then just unknowns huge been listening for over a year,

802
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: appreciate that. My white question for you is, as a

803
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: huge Texans fan, looking back now a year after the trade,

804
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: do you think Laramie Tunzil trade in a vacuum was

805
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: worth it? Considering the first round pick is in the

806
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: late twenties, Kenny Stills is a productive player. I think

807
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: there's an argument to be made the Texans came out

808
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: on top. Yeah. To me, if Laramie Tunzil is your

809
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: starting left tackle for the next six seven years and

810
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: is a Pro Bowler every year, like easily one of

811
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: the best players in the league when he plays, Like

812
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: when you trade for Cleil Mack or Jalen Ramsey, those

813
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: guys are the best players in the league. Even I

814
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: thought Khalil was down and he was still pretty damn good.

815
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Larry Tunzel needs to be elite. There can't be. Yeah,

816
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: you know there's four or five tackles, but no, he's

817
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: gotta be elite. When you trade multiple ones in a

818
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: two for a guy, he's gotta be elite. So they

819
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: gotta get him under contract. He's gotta be elite. I

820
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: think it's unknown. I just time will tell. If he's

821
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: just a solid starting left tackle. It's terrible, not good.

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00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: He's got to be elite. He was good, he's a

823
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: good player. He's gotta be better, Like they need to

824
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: take him. He's become one of the best players in

825
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: the league. When you think Laramie Tunzel, you should go yeah,

826
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: it's one of the best non quarterbacks in the league

827
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: any position. That's what you should think about him when

828
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: you get traded for that type. Hall And I think

829
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's he's better than a good player,

830
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't call him a great player. Now, Bill

831
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: O'Brien coach him up, Deshaun Watson. Can he become a

832
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: great player on their watch? Be cool if he did.

833
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: Can Kyler Murray win the m v P this year

834
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: like Lamar took the leap his rookie year. I would

835
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: say no, and not because I actually believe. I believe

836
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray more going into a second year than

837
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: I definitely did Lamar. Now, I don't know if Kyler

838
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Murray is gonna have Lamar's year, but I think Kyler

839
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: Murray is a better passer of the football I would

840
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: bet on over the next decade than Lamar Jackson. Lamar

841
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Jackson's success clearly through two years is predicated on the

842
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: running the ball, and I like Lamar Jackson. He made

843
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: Hughes tries passing the ball the biggest reason though they

844
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Speaker 1: want he was the MVP. His team was the number

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Speaker 1: one overall seed. Part of being an m v P

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Speaker 1: is you obviously have to have a great year. Usually

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Speaker 1: your team has to kick ass. Look at Mattie Ice

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Speaker 1: a couple of years back, Cam Newton a couple of

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Speaker 1: years back. It's gotta go hand in hand. You gotta

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Speaker 1: dominate and your team's gotta win. I just don't see

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Speaker 1: any scenario the Cardinals win more than seven games. Their

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00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: defense stinks. They're defense is really bad. And I love Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: you know idea if you've listened to this, but is

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Speaker 1: he enough? Like who else they really have? On offense?

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's solid. Larry is an all time great, but

856
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: he's like almost forty. Their offensive line is not good.

857
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Running backs in that offense should be pretty easy. But

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00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: they can't stop anybody. And they're clearly the fourth best

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00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: team in the division. Even the Rams, who have some issues.

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Speaker 1: I still believe in them more than I do the Cardinals.

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00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: And even if the Cardinals, you argue, let's say them

862
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: in the Rams are a coin flip this year. Well,

863
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: the Niners in Seattle are better. The divisions is so hard.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see any scenario where they're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury could barely win seven games in the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win tan in the NFL. I just nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean I ran into him in the combine, didn't

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Speaker 1: just head nodded, you know, a little overrated. I used

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Speaker 1: to think everyone hypes him up like the best looking guy.

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00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good looking dude. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him like Ryan Gosling, the actual Ryan Gosling,

872
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Speaker 1: better looking dude like I just again, I'm not trying

873
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: to diminish Cliff. I actually think he's a good offensive coach.

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00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: The hype on him is just just great looking dude. Yeah,

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00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: he's solid, I mean, good looking dude. But I was,

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Speaker 1: I was, I'll be honest with you a little like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little overrated, but no, I'd go no on the

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Speaker 1: m v P. Now one day, if their teams ever

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00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: good enough, they probably you know, if you go in

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00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: eleven twelve games and put up stupid numbers then yeah. Uh,

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00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: do you think the Saints made the right choice with

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00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: keeping Breeze for the most two years instead of seeing

883
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: if Teddy would look like full season with Kamara healthy

884
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: and more Michael Thomas more than Michael Thomas at wide receiver. Yeah,

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00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I just don't think they have a choice. You know,

886
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: Breeze is better than Teddy. I think Teddy's a little overrated.

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00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: When you look back at Breeze this season, he missed

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00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: six games and was twenty seven and four. He was

889
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. I think he got kind of shipped

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00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 1: on for the playoff game, but he had a pretty

891
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: good season even for his standards. If he had been healthy,

892
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: he probably would have been like thirty five and six.

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00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Think about that, like he's He's just a much better

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00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: player than Teddy. Now when you factor in the money, now,

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Speaker 1: Drew's only making twenty five this year and Teddy's making twenty,

896
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: So the money once Teddy's getting paid, his market's going up.

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00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. It's just a complicated situation.

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00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Drew Drew is still really good. Peyton loves him.

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Speaker 1: This is their year. I thought last year was their year,

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00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: but to me, they gotta win Super Bowl this year,

901
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: like they are. Football happens, but let's this is their

902
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: year to take advantage of it. You got you had

903
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, Michael Thomas in the peak of his powers,

904
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: still got Jared Cook, you got Kamara, you got Latavius Murray.

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Speaker 1: Your offense is stacked. You got the little returner Harris

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00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: that runs like ninety. You've got good defensive players. You've

907
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: had the same coaching staff forever now, like no excuses.

908
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: You can't lose the Kirk Cousins at home in the

909
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: first round. You can't lose the Rams at home. I

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00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: get the ref screwed him. They should have kicked a

911
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: crap out of him that game. I'll never forget watching

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00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: on my couch thinking Jared Goff does not belong in

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Speaker 1: this game and they kind of just let him hang around.

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Speaker 1: The Saints have had a lot of bad losses in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, given they've been more talented than a lot

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Speaker 1: of their opponents. Think how many times the Saints, like

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Speaker 1: at least when you look back, like some of Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning's tough losses, like he lost a Belichick a bunch

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Speaker 1: of times in Indy and then even you'd say as

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00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: toughest loss in Denver would be that first year when

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00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: they lost to Baltimore in Denver. Well, Baltimore won the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And another year I'm trying to think that

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00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: they lost to they lost the Super Bowl to Seattle. Yeah,

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00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: Seattle was an all time great team like those those

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00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: actually lost is kind of where better? Like the Saints

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00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 1: this year lost to the freaking Minnesota Vikings at home

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Speaker 1: when they were almost a ten point favor I think

928
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: it was like eight and a half points they lost.

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00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: How how does that happen? Two years ago? You're at

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: home against the Rams. Shouldn't even be a tight game

931
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: in the second half, you're better. The Ramps scored three

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Speaker 1: points in the Super Bowl. I have to look at

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00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: the score that game, but you should drop thirty five

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Speaker 1: on them. So I think the Saints, of you could

935
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: argue they've underachieved a little bit. I thought their team

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00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: the last handful of years has been stacked even for Yeah,

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00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean they've been missing a second receiver, but you

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Speaker 1: had Jared Cooks the running game. Kamar operates like a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. I think he's had what's is gonna be

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00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: a third year in the league. He's had eighty one

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00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: catches pretty sure in both years. So he's if you're

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Speaker 1: getting your second receivers catching eighty one balls, even if

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00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: he's a running back, it's pretty good shape. So the

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Speaker 1: Saints time is now, man, because the time is now.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, even during these crazy times. Uh, keep

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Speaker 1: your head up, We'll keep her head up, and we'll

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Speaker 1: just try to get through it together. And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: I could talk football for about forty five minutes for

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Speaker 1: you and have a safe weekend, and I'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys next week.