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Speaker 1: where your hosts we are? That was really close? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah, she is a median and a very

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Speaker 1: it was kind of like a very much like when

424
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: Ben Affleck was cast. I was like, what, why would

425
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: you because because he's a comedian and he was like

426
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: known for his ridiculous comedy roles, and then they're casting

427
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: him as Bruce Wayne and Batman was like the weird.

428
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: It was like a very bizarre choice for the time period.

429
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: But also Tim Burton just seems to only better work

430
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: with one actor repeatedly. And that's what happened. Like, Oh,

431
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: I like that. I like Michael Keaton. No, no, I

432
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: like Johnny Depp. Okay, I'll keep casting him, Like right,

433
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for like an aggressively good

434
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: looking man who insists on playing characters. Anyways, Like that's

435
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: and it's like, what what strength of spirit you have?

436
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 1: You keep Michael Keaton is aggressively attractive. Oh no, But

437
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: like I feel like I think in his prime he

438
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: was I think we I mean, not only is he

439
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 1: underfractive for his personal life issues as well, but he

440
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: just became kind of a weird. He didn't getting back

441
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: to Joel Shoe, I feel that way about Patrick Wilson

442
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: and fandom of the opera. Patrick Wilson's a very handsome man,

443
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: but you know, in some movies he's getting his dick

444
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: chopped off by a very young page boy haircut Ellen

445
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: Page and then the next year he's love that movie.

446
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyways, I just wanted to talk about

447
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: Patrick Wilson go back, well it connects and that he's

448
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: also a superhero in the Watchman. True, he's a wow,

449
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: he's like about that Back to Man, We've got Michael

450
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Keaton's attractive. He's he's not not unattractive, but I wouldn't

451
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: He's not convention I think he was considered attractive at

452
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: the time. I think he was like like Billy crystal

453
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: fuzz hair that I cannot get. Everyone in this movie

454
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: has the same haircut and it's confused. I must have

455
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: been very humid on the set. Every little frizzy what

456
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: is us? I mean, it's a gag about it later

457
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: because when the smile like toxin isn't anything, the idea

458
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: is like no one can use makeup or hair products

459
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: because they're afraid they're going to be murdered by it.

460
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: And so because are like they're like like airlifting still

461
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: airlifting in cosmetics from outside the city. And yeah that

462
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 1: he touches all have like horrible boils in their faces,

463
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: like yeah, at least like the part with the newscasters

464
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: are are like on on camera looking like how at

465
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: least they did make the men and women it wasn't

466
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 1: like the guys look fine that went because like there

467
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: was I know I'm probably speaking out the fron at

468
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: this point, but I noticed, like I feel like women

469
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: are the only ones who actually die or smile likes

470
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: in the film, Like unless I'm missing somebody, but I

471
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 1: like every victim of smile because like a supermodel or

472
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: a female newscaster, the two models and then the ya

473
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: that newscaster woman who dies, and those are the only people,

474
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: those are the only like on screen as we see

475
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: there like very obviously they died. Um, speaking of those

476
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: characters and other characters, like the main ones the women

477
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: that we have in this film. The main female character

478
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: is Vicky Vale played by Kim Bay Singer and Alicia

479
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Hunt played by a crap I free to name Ry

480
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: Hall Jerry Hall and she but she was more of

481
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: a secondary character. Um, she doesn't get a ton of

482
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: screen time versus uh the main male characters which are

483
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne Ak Batman, Jack Napier a k the Joker,

484
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: and then the more secondary characters are Lieutenant Eckhart Grissom,

485
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: the mob Boss, Commissioner Gordon Harvey Dent the reporter, Knox

486
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: Alfred the servant, man and the Jokers assistant guy like

487
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: I think, and all the guys who mob worked for

488
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: Grisham like a hand buzzer. This is an example of

489
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: a movie where almost everyone on screen is a man. Yeah,

490
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: because like all of the cops are men, all of

491
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: the bad guys are men, all of the journalists are

492
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: men at least, so like it seems as though anyone

493
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: at least with a job in Gotham City is a man. Yeah.

494
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: The only women you have, you do have the newscasters.

495
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 1: There's two of them because one gets one gets one

496
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: gets dead and the other one. And it's also a

497
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: lot of like old ladies in background shots. I noticed that,

498
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: Like I know, it's like there's like a scene like

499
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: in the department stores. I mean, it's like a lot

500
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: of like older like spinster ladies that are all doing

501
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: their shopping or a lot of they are decent and

502
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: having a lot of women the crowd scenes. At least

503
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: I think they were, but I can't be totally wrong.

504
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: But and then Vicky Vale has a job she does

505
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: she's doing. I think he's an established photographer. Um. In

506
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: any case, all of the of the main characters who

507
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: have like significant roles in the story. Almost all of

508
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: them are men, and the few women that we do have,

509
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: well one look exactly alike they are when I was

510
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: a kid, Land Ladies when I was a kid. The

511
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I definitely got Vicky Vail

512
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 1: and Alicia mixed up at first, like until I think,

513
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: until learned the same scene together, I'm like, oh, I

514
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: think that was the same. Yeah, that was too confusing.

515
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: I was like, one can't just have sort of curly

516
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: hair and they're like the same, very very hot lady,

517
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: and like, good for them, sure, like they are adapting

518
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: us from source material that might have also featured mostly

519
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: white dudes. But the nice thing about adaptations is that

520
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: you can change things. If you want to update things

521
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: and make them more like include more types of people,

522
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: you can do that. And also you really can't even

523
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: give that one like even that, like oh the adaptation

524
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: argument because Tim Burton Lee very famously did not really

525
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: care about the comics and like didn't really read the comics,

526
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: so he kind of made his own version of Batman

527
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: and so still made everyone a white dude. Yeah, well

528
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: he's and he's like he just this even as as

529
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: of this year, when he made that, um, the school

530
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: for Unusual children, like he had that that comment that was, like,

531
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: the story doesn't really call for it, Why would I

532
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: have it in there? And it's like that because you

533
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: can just have people existing in the world. No, okay,

534
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: where was I going? Oh okay, here we go. The

535
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: first time that we see Vicky Vale, the first time

536
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: she was introduced, all we see are her legs, because

537
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: did you know that women are just a collection of

538
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: their body parts? Have you ever seen the Headless Women

539
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: of Hollywood blog? No, it's wonderful. It's by a fabulous

540
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: New York comic named Marcia Bellski and she yeah, she

541
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: aggregates all like the movie post stars that are just

542
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: women's Yes, I've seen that dropped camera no face and like, yeah,

543
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: check it out a gang. She's great and it's there's

544
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: literally no like limit on the source material. Yeah, it's

545
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: a spectrum everything cool. So, yeah, we are introduced to

546
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: her by her legs that are just propped up on

547
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: the table. Knox goes, hello, legs, uh, and then he says, Oh,

548
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: if you wanna take news of me, you'll need a

549
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: long lens, which uh is sexual harassment in the workplace. Yeah,

550
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: I would say, Box has almost no role in this

551
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: movie except for to be a guy who objectifies Vicki

552
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: and like is mad that she's dating Bruce Wayne. Like

553
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: his only job in the movie is to like criticize

554
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: her choice of a boyfriend that's not him, Like that's

555
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: because he's supposed to be, Like there's there's the implication

556
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: that he's the reporter and she's the photographer. So she

557
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: has to go to him to look things up because

558
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: I can't look at computer. That's not how talks. But

559
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: that's very hard to Quinn actually, But it's weird because

560
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: like I know that in the comics are like at

561
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: least later maybe after this movie, but they seem to

562
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: have turned Vicky Vail into more like an investigative journalist

563
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: as opposed to be just a photographer. Not that justice bad,

564
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: but like she but yeah, and so it's like it

565
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: does feel like they could have just gotten rid of

566
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: his character entirely, because it's already like a love triangle

567
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: quote unquote. It's a horrible way to phrase it, because

568
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: the Joker loves her quote love. He desires her as

569
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: an object um and Bruce likes her. And so it's

570
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: like this like weird, like, oh, these two men are

571
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: after the same woman, even though one of them is

572
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: made it clear she has no interest in one of

573
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: them completely. So having Robert will be like the fourth

574
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: angle of this thing doesn't need to happen at all

575
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: completely in this booby, Yeah, which is Alfred might Oh

576
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll make them it's like her grandpa. He

577
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: also just wanted to like throw in their long focus lens.

578
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: That's not an accurate photography joke. Oh, I don't know

579
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: enough about along. I looked it up. But can you

580
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: also maybe argue that he's an idiot and just thinks

581
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: he knows what he's talking about, and it's actually making

582
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: stuff up to say I've got a big whole day. Yeah,

583
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: I looked it up and brought to make a photo

584
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: of it. Broadcast News came out in eighty seven, and

585
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I actually feel like this was just ripping off the

586
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Albert Brooks storyline from Broadcast, because we're going to have

587
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: a kind of shitty Albert Brooks in this movie. Yeah. Well,

588
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: like everybody, I think like making her character more of

589
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: like an investigative journalist would have been a better idea,

590
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: because one, it makes her more active, because right now. Basically,

591
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: her role in the story is to be the love interest,

592
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: because did you know women can only be love interests

593
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: in stories according to movies like this. But a couple

594
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: of times she goes took good, took good, and then

595
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: they try to shoot her. I actually kind I like

596
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: laughed out loud at that part. I was like, the

597
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: one time she's actually doing her job, they try to

598
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: kill and they suppose why they try to kill her

599
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: because they're actually trying to take Batman's mask off and

600
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: she's trying to take a picture of his face and

601
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: then they go kill her. But it's like, why away

602
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: you would want her to? Okay, yeah, yeah, she was

603
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: trying to add something to the plot for once. Yeah.

604
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: Once in a while they try to imply that she

605
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: does have like an investigative slant to her, but it's

606
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: like always couched in. She's trying to figure out this

607
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: guy that she's dating, as opposed to just being like, oh,

608
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Bruce Waine, actually it's kind of a weird, dude, I

609
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: should investigate him. It's always like, why didn't he call

610
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: me or why did he tell me he was going

611
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: out of town when he was Actually she stops him

612
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Yeah, it's argue it's her job.

613
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: But also it's like you've got Yeah, it's weird too

614
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: in this movie because apparently nobody in Gotham remembers Bruce

615
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne's parents being murdered because they like find articles

616
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: about it and they go, oh, what a weird story

617
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: of happening his kid, Like really, no one remembers that

618
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: this super rich family was just gunned down in the streets.

619
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: At the beginning, no one knows what he looks like,

620
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Like she is like, are you Bruce Wayne or you?

621
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: And I like, he does look like almost every other

622
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: guy in this movie, but like I was like, he's

623
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: like a I thought he was a prominent would yeah,

624
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: his picture would be in the paper or something. They

625
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: had a party at his house and it looks like

626
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: and they're not like people who have out of town,

627
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: Like that'd be one thing, but they're literally both working

628
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: as for this newspaper in the city. Like really, you

629
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: don't know who a head sociolite of your city is,

630
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: like would be one thing. Like in um got Man

631
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: begins the idea of like Bruce Wayne has been going

632
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: for a long time and is back in town, so

633
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: that can even make sense to don't we know what?

634
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: He looks like he's been going for so long and

635
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: he's a kid, but this is not the case, and

636
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: he's like charming. He's not like a recluse, Like he's

637
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: somebody who has like galas at his house and has

638
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: an art collection. And Yeah, my favorite part of Vicky

639
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: Vale doing her job in this movie but also still

640
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: like being the love interest at the same time is

641
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: when after she gets those pictures or like maybe gets

642
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: those pictures and they shoot at her, she calls her

643
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: editor and she's like of a scoop and he's like

644
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: is it hot? And she's like laying on her bed

645
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: and he's like it's real hot. That's a weird scene too,

646
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: because like that's that That scene happens after Batman has

647
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: saved her from the Joker attacking her the art gallery

648
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: and she has some pictures of him and then like

649
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: he's like, there's one more thing I need from you

650
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: and he like throws his arm up. Mere. I'm like,

651
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: he just hit her and he guessed her, like what happens?

652
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: And then she wakes up on her bed the next day,

653
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: So I'm like, is there like a deleted scene that

654
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: we didn't see where they totally did it, and then

655
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: he like dropped her off or did he just like

656
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: knock her out and steal her camera. She talks as

657
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: if she's just come five times, it's real hot. Well,

658
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: she takes that film and puts it like and stuffs

659
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: it in her bron to assume and yeah, So either way,

660
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: he like reached down her shirt and stole and she

661
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: was probably, I'm guessing, unconscious because she didn't know that

662
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: it was gone until she woke up and then checked

663
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: her boobs and she's like, oh, the things that I

664
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: store in here are missing. Yeah, and she's like the

665
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: only momentarily annoyed by it, Like a man who was

666
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: supposed to be the superhero knocked her out, felt her up,

667
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: and stole her film and had a good reason. And

668
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: then she's like still on board, like, oh, yeah, we

669
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: gotta call the police because he has a plant. Like

670
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: what what? I don't know? Yeah. I do want to

671
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: point out that if Bruce Wayne Slash Batman did really

672
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: want to do some good for Gotham study City, he

673
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: could probably just like spread his wealth around a little

674
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: bit more and eliminate a lot of the crime. There's

675
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: a there's a comedian in Santancisi named Askatowski who basically

676
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: has this whole thing about how like all Bruce Wayne

677
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: asked to do was open two factories and he could

678
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: solve all the crime problems in he's like a billionaire, right,

679
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: like yes, spread the wealth, dude. Yeah, and he literally

680
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: just has to give like take all the guys who

681
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: are working as thugs for all these supervillains armies and

682
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: just give them like nine to five gigs with the

683
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: health insurance may probably, but he's like mentally ill and

684
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: he's so he makes up a very complicated I read

685
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: this very intense Batman theory where it's like the bat

686
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Cave is like Batman is actually an Arkham asylum and

687
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: it's like a fight club thing where he's Batman and

688
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: the Joker, and it was I hate those things. It

689
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: was on this podcast with these like really druly sounding

690
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: men and they were just like a men this and

691
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: he was insane the whole time. But also it's like,

692
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a guy just running around and

693
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it cost him any superhero movie, it's like, get over yourself. Yeah,

694
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: I just hate any fan theory. It's like this isn't

695
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: really happening at all, or like these are all connected

696
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: in the same everything. It's like that just like I

697
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: get it, you're clever. Yeah, it's like just get a job.

698
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Grow up up ad this episode, grow up stop, grow up.

699
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: Like I know, there was one version of the Joker

700
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: at one point in the comics where like when he

701
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: thought Batman was dead, he just like gave up crime

702
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: and sort of living a normal life because he no

703
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: longer had Batman to like foil against like that. So

704
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Batman is the problem play. The argument

705
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: in Batman begins in Dark Night is that like because

706
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Batman exists, like he helps escalate the crime problem, and

707
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: then like because he's there, like the criminals escalate as well.

708
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, because like Gordon has the whole thing,

709
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Like you got bulletproof vest and then they get arm

710
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: a piercing guns, and then you got a guy in

711
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: a suit, and then you got this guy in a

712
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: clown costume. Like yeah, they're always trying to top each other. Yeah,

713
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: But so in Batman, um, yeah, it's just like there's

714
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: always things. I'm like, why is she just okay with this?

715
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: Like and that's she's getting the better treatment, like as

716
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: far as women in this film go, and that's not

717
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: saying a lot. I couldn't believe because I don't like,

718
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: this wasn't the original movie that I had talked to

719
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: you about because I was gonna and You're like, well,

720
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: we should do this because of the timing and everything. Oh,

721
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: by the way, we are doing this movie right now

722
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: because the Lego Batman movies coming out. That's why I

723
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: was like, hey, let's do Batman. And I'm so sorry.

724
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: I remember like thinking that it was just gonna be

725
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: devoid of women. That was going to be the problem

726
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: with it. And then when I started watching it, I

727
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: hadn't watched it so long. I was like shocked at

728
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: how much worse it is than that. Like, so we

729
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: talked about Alicia, the woman that he basically like wins

730
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: by stealing her from um Christiam is that his name? Christo? Like,

731
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: he basically like like they're having an affair, and then

732
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: Chris that's why Grissom like kills him. But then he

733
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: even acts like when he's killing Grissolm, he like acts like,

734
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: how dare you make a woman matter enough to kill me?

735
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: But he literally's like he says, like, you're trying to

736
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: kill me over a woman, a woman like she's just

737
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: so objectified. And then because he like kills Gristom, he

738
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: basically gets to like claim her as his rolls with

739
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: yeah game, yeah, did you know that you have to

740
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: keep dating uh, the side piece that you had been

741
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: sucking before whenever he murders your mob boss boyfriend? Did

742
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: you know that's how you have to act with your woman?

743
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: I would love someone to kill someone else over me

744
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: in an extremely thing for thank you. In her defense

745
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: as a character, I think that's actually one of the

746
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: more realistic things that happens in this movie, only because

747
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: but not in a good way, but like in a

748
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: psychologically tormented person way, like she's terrified of what Jack

749
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: is going to do to her, and it's like broken

750
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: because that's why she like she's afraid to leave him,

751
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: like and I think it's like he's not just like

752
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: your standard like garden variety abuser. He's like literally a

753
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: monster who's come back from the dead. So does she

754
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: call him daddy at something? He calls himself daddy. He's

755
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: like daddy so much? Okay, because I got confused because

756
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: she was covered with the masks. I wasn't even sure

757
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: who she Yah was. The mask comes off very briefly,

758
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: and it's horrifying because you also very yeah she is

759
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: she she starts thinking music of the Night and then um, yeah,

760
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: so that's like when I was a kid, I don't

761
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: think I really realized what happened to her face. Like

762
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: I remember she's wearing the man ask and thinking like

763
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: she had makeup on or like whatever. And then when

764
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: I was leading up to it, I go, oh, I

765
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: think he's been hitting her something. And then it's so

766
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: much like she has this horrible scar that like he's

767
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: clearly like like throwing acid on her face or something

768
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: and like burned her. Like he's always trying to like

769
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: build up to making two face or something, and he

770
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: just like through and it's so jarring. All of a sudden,

771
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the movie that I watched when

772
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: I was like eight. And then the way he casually

773
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: it says, she jumped out of window. Oh yeah, he's

774
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: like carrying a broken mask around like an omelet without

775
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: breaking a few eggs. Yeah, And and he like only

776
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: talks about her in like like he talks about it,

777
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: calls her like his masterpiece, like a piece of art

778
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: that he makes. Like he he's so objectified her that

779
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: like when she's dead, he's just like mad, but his

780
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: art is gone like as opposed to But and then

781
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: like the movie doesn't even show her kill herself, like

782
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: don't even give her the agency of having her own

783
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: death on screen. It's literally just like a guy carrying

784
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: her mask around talking about her to the woman he's

785
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: trying to bang now like just a sentence of like

786
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: expos I should have, Like he literally says, he's like, oh,

787
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm going through a tough time right now. She threw

788
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: herself out a windows like all cough day for you, baby, baby?

789
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: What didn't you tell me that in earlier here's a

790
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: fun thing. The first time or no, I think it's

791
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: maybe the second time we see her character on screen,

792
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 1: Alicia Hunt, she's carrying like six shopping bags because you know, hey,

793
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: did you know women be shopping? She's just and then

794
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: the next time we see her she has other shopping bags.

795
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: She's just always out shopping. And she passes out because

796
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: she thinks that Jack is dead and he's like, hey,

797
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: maybe I'm home whatever, and she's like passes out like

798
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: a really good cartoonish thing. Yeah, that's the other thing.

799
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Did you know that women faint all the time because

800
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: we're delicate little flowers? And I smiling, salt dude. I

801
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: that all that said, I do really enjoy Jack Nicholson

802
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: in this movie. He's like, even though his part is

803
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: as problematic as you can get, he does a great job.

804
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: He does a good job. And the other thing I

805
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: really like about this movie is the score it has.

806
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Is it an elphan prince? A lot of prints in

807
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: this movie. There is a lot of prints I've played

808
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: and guys, real quick, real gu brag. I feel like

809
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned I played the elbo in high school in

810
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: almost every episode, but we played the theme from The

811
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: Batman and our spring concert. It's a great name and

812
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I had a sucked it up. I was going, so,

813
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: so if anyone's looking for a nova player in the

814
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles area, just should men don't play? Yeah? I

815
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: got my elbow in my car, right, can you get Yeah?

816
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: I used to play the clarinet. We could be in

817
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: a band together. We should start a band. I played

818
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: trump it, but I didn't I never actually learned how

819
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: to play it, and I would just like sit I

820
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: would try to. I took lessons, but I never figured

821
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: it out really, and I would like go to like

822
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: we'd have like recitals or like band concerts, and I

823
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: would just sit and like pretend to be playing them

824
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: because you couldn't tell because I was in the crowd anyway.

825
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: And then like my mom like one day like kind

826
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: of figure out that wasn't enjoying it, and she was like,

827
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: but you sounded a good thing. I'm like, I wasn't

828
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: actually playing. I was just sitting there pretending to push

829
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: on the buttons and anyone pay into like if you

830
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: spent money on the trumpet and the tricky. I wanted

831
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: to play drums, and they just like kind of assigned

832
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: you your section, and like I didn't want to just

833
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: play any random instrument and the drummer. They gave us

834
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: instruments literally like the sorting hat. Like they would just

835
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: be like, you know, if you were cute and a

836
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: little girl, they'd like, you play the flute, or if

837
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: you're really cute, you played the pickle up what it

838
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: was weird and then they were like, well girl, and

839
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: which true but also hurtful at the time. So this

840
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: movie is interesting. We're talking about the Joker like the

841
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Nicholas's performance, because I I had always kind of my

842
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: head combined this this Joker with like the season Romero

843
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: Old bat Man Joker as being a little bit less

844
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: vile and a little bit more just like funny and

845
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: weird and goofy. But boy, he is a statistic sociopathic monster.

846
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Like he is so much darker than I remember him being.

847
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I actually even think he might

848
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: be a little bit more dark than Heath Ledger's Joker

849
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: because he ledger Joker is a sociopath and he definitely

850
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: has he's like I guess maybe he's pretty messed up

851
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: because does put that bomb in that guy's stomach and

852
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: he also makes that like that boat try to kill

853
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: half the people ever, But his thing is so much

854
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: more psychological mind games and like this like agent of chaos,

855
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: whereas this Joker feels like he likes to personally inflict

856
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: harm on specific people and that it's like so much

857
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: creepy and it's like I actually like research a little

858
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: bit for this podcast trying to figure out when that

859
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: became the Joker, because that's I feel like that's establishes

860
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: who he is now, Like I think the Jared Leto

861
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: Joker was very much like that, and like they then

862
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: they made him very abusive to Harley Quinn, and if

863
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: you look at like even in the old Batman animated series,

864
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: he's very abusive. And it's it's weird because I know,

865
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: like he's won't do a lot of evolutions in the

866
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: comics from being like he started off as a killer,

867
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: and then he kind of became more of a ridiculous,

868
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: clowney character, and then around seventies and eighties he went

869
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: back to being this dark character because the book was

870
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: getting dark. But it's weird because, like I as a

871
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: comic fan, I guess maybe like now that I've actually

872
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: dealt with in real life the ramifications of what like

873
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: a sociopath does to the people around them, Like I

874
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: I've I never dealt with somebody who's like cutting into

875
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: somebody or like but like psychologically tormenting people. And it

876
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: has so much harder to enjoy a movie now where

877
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: someone's like really over the top doing it because I'm like,

878
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: oh God, this brings up a lot of thoughts about yeah,

879
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: not even like I mean it's a little it's not

880
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: even like a full on trigger it's just more like, oh,

881
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't I can't escape in this anymore.

882
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, yeah, you're like, this isn't fun to watch.

883
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: This just reminds me of things that I didn't like. Yeah, exactly, Like, oh,

884
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: I remember a lot of my friends having a really

885
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: hard time for a while because of things like this

886
00:45:53,320 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, um, all right, good. I know the

887
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 1: other thing I was gonna say, the wonderful trope of

888
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: a man having to save a woman over and over.

889
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's so much a dams On the

890
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: stress for someone who should be like she's like a

891
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: war area photographer, and yes, somehow she can't keep herself right.

892
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love the scene where he's going through

893
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: her portfolio. He's like this sucks. This sucks. Oh look

894
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: a body like I like that. I'm d d is

895
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: trying to tell you how dark he is. It's so

896
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: brooding because this was like supposed to be like the

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: greedy Batman reboot, but it's like extremely campy, but everyone

898
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: is also horny. Like that seems like it's not really

899
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: like that greedy. Like there's some art deco and everyone

900
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: wants to funck and like that's dark and I do

901
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: like the Vicky Vale has sex with Bruce Wayne on

902
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: the first date. I'm just like, yeah, girl, you can do.

903
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: You want it, you go get it and no one

904
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: will think any less of you. Then he kind of

905
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: blows around, he does treat her like a dick, and

906
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: and the scene when he like goes to apologize to

907
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: her and like come out as batman. Uh, this really

908
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: fun thing happens where she's like calling him out for

909
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: being a dick and like you lied to me, blah

910
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: blah blah, and then he pushes her down onto the couch.

911
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just gonna need you to shut up

912
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: right now, because did you know that when a man

913
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: needs to express his feelings and be vulnerable, he has

914
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: to commit an act of domestic abuse. First, He's like

915
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: all right now and pushed you. I've told you to

916
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: shut up, I've yelled at you. Now i can tell

917
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: you that I'm beat and then do it. He like

918
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: he talks all tough. That's like he has a sudden

919
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: moment of like machismo and barbado, like I'm gonna push

920
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: you down and tell you what's up. And then he

921
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: just like flounders through like you know people that you

922
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: know when a person is like doing a thing and

923
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: then you put on paratites and you fight villains and

924
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know, and people do stuff like that.

925
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Like it's like something like, why why make you be

926
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: this dick ish, like domineering guy for a second if

927
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna do it? And then she kind

928
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: of drops it, like she there's like that line where

929
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: she's like, can't we ever love each other? It was like,

930
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: grow up, Kim, Vicky, whatever, Okay, oh we haven't. I

931
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: didn't know if you were like saving this for a

932
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: special moment. But the scene at the end where you know,

933
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: Vicky gets a look in her eyes. She's in the

934
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Joker's arm and and I'm like, this is her moment.

935
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: She's going to do something great. And then what she

936
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: does is almost gives him a blow chump so Batman

937
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: can whack him. I was like, no, that was your chance.

938
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: And then she just starts going like yeah, she's like

939
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: kissing his arms, but she's in shirt and I love purple.

940
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: And then yeah, like sinks down to like I guess,

941
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: pretend to start giving him a She's just very gingerly

942
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: kissing his shirt and you could just tell you was

943
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: rock hard. Uh No, I was not saving that for

944
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: special moment. And I'm glad you brought the almost forgot

945
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: about it. He like falls for it so hard. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: and then she lunches it and like, I love purple,

947
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: and he's like A very similar scene happens in Aladdin

948
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: where Jasmine starts seducing Jafar because she knows that Aladdin

949
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: is there to again go rescue her, because did you

950
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: know women can't fend for themselves ever. They always have

951
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: to be saved as far as kind of hot And

952
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's also like that same mentality that always

953
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: makes like bad comic artists draw women with like no

954
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: armor whatsoever. And it's like and they always go, oh, well,

955
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: there's skindily clad, because that way, in the heat of battle,

956
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: men will be so turned on with their bodies they

957
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: won't be able to fight them. Like. It's like that

958
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: is a frequent argument. Like never you see like a

959
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: female character who has like exposed chest plate or like

960
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: just has like like like a push up bram made

961
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: on a metal or whatever. There's always some argument that

962
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it's designed to distract men, and like

963
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: everyone's like, you know that need a battle, Like no

964
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: one's the way thinking about their dicks at that moment, right,

965
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: Like they're all like pretty like repped up and ready

966
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: to fight. You're not gonna stop and go, oh, well,

967
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I want to have sex best person, so I will

968
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: stop fighting. Like I'm all for using men's horny nous

969
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: against them, but the battlefield is not the place. It's

970
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: probably not gonna work for considering these plots, we have

971
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: this whole like, oh, in the middle of of you

972
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: having your victory, I'm going to suddenly seduce you, like

973
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: like really, he's like holding her hostage in a bell

974
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: tower after being pursued by Batman, and he's probably like, yeah,

975
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean your job is to blow me, so let's

976
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: do it. Like I love you, do love purple, so

977
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: let's do this. Like like she makes a whole and

978
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: then Batman says something quickly, dance with the devil in

979
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: the Pale moon, Like it's just just a creepy thing

980
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, hey, here's the thing that you

981
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: said to my parents when you killed them. I'm gonna say, well,

982
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: my girlfriend's getting all grandy on you, right, and very

983
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: like a very long thing to say before you hit someone.

984
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: He could have, you know, maybe moved. That part of

985
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: this movie bugs me a lot because it's just like

986
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: an example of how this is not very good storytelling.

987
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Because Joker, I think it's in Vicky Vale's apartment, he's like,

988
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: do you ever dance with the Devil and the Pale

989
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: moon Light? As he's like holding a gun to Bruce Wayne,

990
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: He's like, what did you say? He's like, Oh, it's

991
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: just something I say to all of my prey. First

992
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 1: of all, it's not because we haven't seen this happen

993
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: on screen yet, so what are you talking about? And

994
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: then it doesn't do that and doesn't yeah yeah, and

995
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: then they flashback the one time they said, so the

996
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: flashback happens after that, uh, and then only then do

997
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: we realize how that why that is significant. So it's

998
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: just like, no, you gotta be a better screenwriter, dude, Like,

999
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: this isn't good story It's also that's one of the

1000
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: things that that's not even from the comics, Like it

1001
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: is not the Joker that killed Bruce Wayne's parents in

1002
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: the comics. That's what I think people were real mad

1003
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: about when they like, did I think for this like

1004
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: movie isolated, it makes sense because otherwise, like what connects

1005
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Batman and the Joker besides the fact that they're like

1006
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: both horny but not in love with Kim Banzon. But

1007
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, it's just it's just gross. The

1008
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Joker also had that like weird long dick gun that

1009
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: he pulled out of his pants at one point, Like

1010
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: that's not a useful weapon. Yeah, I always love that

1011
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: as a kid, though I don't know why I think

1012
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: I wanted that, like and then like I think it

1013
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: doesn't even have the bang flag at the end of

1014
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: it at some point or like yeah, uh, well, back

1015
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: to um, what women are wearing in comic book movies.

1016
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: There are three at least three different times where Vicky

1017
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Vale is wearing high heels that she has to take

1018
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: off because she's either fleeing or just needing to move

1019
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: about more comfortably. And sure, women can wear whatever they want,

1020
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: but high heels were designed by men and the patriarchy

1021
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: to slow women down. Men want to chase them and

1022
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: assault with them. I'm guessing, and I don't know that

1023
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: that's what happened, but like, these are not sensible rex

1024
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: and heels so let's not act like I'm also wearing

1025
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: my high heeled playboy sneakers. Today's I'm also wearing my

1026
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: high heeled boots. But just like, hey, please attack us.

1027
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: I could, but there's a heel, Well kill it, we are.

1028
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: I just think that if she knows that there's a

1029
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: joker around, maybe wear some more run away for really popular.

1030
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: If you're an investigative photographer, you wouldn't You probably wouldn't

1031
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: wear that. Probably, like I totally get it when she's

1032
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: at the like the Wayne Mansion for the gala and

1033
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: she's wearing her weird prawn dress wedding dress things, yea,

1034
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: the poop sleeves, it's like a white dress, and any

1035
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: other party would be like, you're overdressed, like you look

1036
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: like Glinda the Good Witch. We all. We haven't even

1037
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: talked about my favorite scene, which is when Batman asks

1038
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: Vicky Vale how much she weighs, which that alone does

1039
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: not bother me, because people have this whole thing where

1040
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: it's like, never ask a woman how much you weighs,

1041
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: Never ask a woman how old she is, because that

1042
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: basically just implies that if a woman weighs too much,

1043
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: or if she's too old, she should be ashamed of

1044
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: herself and she should feel shame, which is not true

1045
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: at all obviously. Um, but what bothers me is that

1046
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: after that, after like the whole fight scene, and he

1047
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: comes back around and he's like, oh, you weigh a

1048
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: little bit more than a hundred and eight, which number one, Yeah,

1049
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: most adults do. That would be horrible if she yes

1050
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: to weigh to body shame her for no reason. Uh.

1051
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: And three, if she did lie about her weight, it's

1052
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: only because women have to adhere to such impossible uh

1053
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: standards for beauty. Batman, why don't you take on the

1054
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: patriarchy instead of the joker? Seriously? Again, if you could

1055
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: open two factories and you could also take that, you

1056
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: can open a news network that focuses on when in

1057
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,959
Speaker 1: centric issue, why don't you start a magazine? Bruce? Yeah,

1058
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, that that was my favorite thing to happen

1059
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: in the movie. Yeah. It's like sometimes I'm like, do

1060
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: you even like her? Like why are you? You know?

1061
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't treat her especially well, either as Batman or

1062
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: as Bruce Wayne. Now, Yeah, like he lies to her,

1063
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: he blows her off, he called like, he calls her fat,

1064
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, why do you guys, Vicky,

1065
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: come on, you can do better. Seriously, she must because

1066
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: she's not back in the sequel. So true. True. She

1067
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: just finds it off someone someone nice to like and

1068
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: kill Bill whenever she was dating that murder Bill guy.

1069
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: And then she's like, you know what, I'm just going

1070
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: to settle down with this record store owner in Texas.

1071
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: Like well, because she has a baby, right, and you

1072
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: just have to put everything on hold whenever your children

1073
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: can't be an assassin when you have a baby. I

1074
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: like it to have somebody who I like actually killed

1075
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: a lot, but somebody who's like an international assassin. They're like, oh,

1076
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: but I can't read. The kid is one I gets

1077
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: like she like flipped but still Yeah, those were all

1078
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: the things that I uh found interesting, Like the Joker

1079
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: and Batman are like bickering all the time. And it's

1080
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: like a part where he's like, you made me, well

1081
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: you killed my parents, so you made me first, so

1082
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: you made me and then I made It's like this,

1083
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, no one at the script was like,

1084
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: maybe we should do in our pass in this scene,

1085
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: like let's go ahead and do this again. I could

1086
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: just save some time because the movie is like a

1087
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 1: little bit too long. It's a little over two hours. Yeah,

1088
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: and then there's no need for that. No, No, although

1089
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: I do the joker is fun when he's not abusing women,

1090
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: like when he's which is that true, not a lot

1091
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: of sociopaths, but like when he comes in and he's

1092
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: like giving out money and like dancing in the street

1093
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: and like like stances. I love him, And I just

1094
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: like like when the when he's dancing the money, like

1095
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: the ideas that he's like taking over this this like

1096
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: bicentennial festival that we go cancel, and I just like

1097
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: there's apparently no actual police force in this city because

1098
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: like he's not he's just rolling down the street with

1099
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: giant balloons handing out money, and no cops are like

1100
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: shooting the balloons or doing anything to stop him. And

1101
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: they don't know there's gas in the balloons yet, so

1102
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: it's like there's actually no, it doesn't make any sense why,

1103
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: Like the whole city is like, yeah, this guy just

1104
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: murdered a bunch of people and it's been terrorizing us,

1105
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: and it's like gone on TV and being like, hey,

1106
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm poisoning all of your beauty products. Watch out for me,

1107
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: but there are six cops on the scene who are

1108
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: willing to shoot it. Thinking yeah, like there they show

1109
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: up at very strange moment. Well those cops are those

1110
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: his weird security guards, I thought, I think I thought

1111
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: there are cops too. I'm like, wait, no, this I

1112
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: maybe it might be his cops. In this movie. There's

1113
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of weird like henchmen that it tacked Batman

1114
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: like one just feels like a bunch of flips across

1115
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: the bell tower and loved the flipping. He was cool. Um,

1116
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: but I mean yeah, whenever Jack Nicholson was dancing, I

1117
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: was like, I'm I'm in and then you would, you know,

1118
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: hit a lady and I'd be like, oh this, That's

1119
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: why I don't like this guy. I love a dancing

1120
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: man though. That's why Harley Quinn needs to be a

1121
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: poison ivy and said a junker because uh, I wonder, well,

1122
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: I wonder how lego Batman is kind of fair in

1123
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: terms of its treatment of it, ripped down the enter

1124
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: inequalities of it. As of yet, I haven't seen one

1125
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: that exists in the previous I literally only see Will

1126
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Arnett's Batman and the Alfred that's like the only characters

1127
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: that seemed to be in the previews, so I got

1128
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: to rewatch the trailer. Is there another female character in

1129
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: the Lego movie besides um? Olivia Wilde's like cool? Like

1130
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: there's the cat unicorn thing? Right? Is that a that? Uh?

1131
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: What's her face? Voices? Who's in community? Alison Bree? Yeah,

1132
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: and it's also like the off screen little sister that

1133
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: has to also be a little play with toys, Like

1134
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: that's the only other I can't think of any other

1135
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: female character. Yeah, let's do the Lego movie next. Have

1136
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: you seen it? I watched it with the baby ones

1137
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: well because all right, none of it my friends. I

1138
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: tried to watch on the plane and I couldn't do it,

1139
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: And then I watched it again later on HBO and

1140
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: I liked it more. But like I think, being right

1141
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: out in front of it on the plane, it was

1142
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: like it was just too fast and like, okay, I

1143
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: can't hand this right now. I can't watch stuff on planes. Yeah,

1144
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: so Batman, Um, does anyone else have any final thoughts

1145
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: or closing words? This movie hates women, like it really does.

1146
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: Like every everyone it dies is a woman, except for

1147
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: like Bruce's a couple of guys in the beginning, like

1148
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the mob guys who get killed and Bruce's dad, but

1149
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: like everyone the Joker, the guy who gets like burnt

1150
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: to a crisp and like doesn't ever think to maybe

1151
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: take his hand away from Joker's handshake, and he's like, no,

1152
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let myself burn to death. He was

1153
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: freaked out. Okay, we're in the Jokers, Like I'm glad

1154
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: you're dead. Yeah, because he killed him, Like we all

1155
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: get that, you're glad you're he's dead, Like why would

1156
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: we not think he was glad that he was dead?

1157
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: Can I read Tim Burton's quote about white people that's

1158
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: bad because it's like, oh, it's really bad, comically bad. Yeah, okay,

1159
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: so this was after the Miss Peregrines. Does anyone see

1160
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: his movie's name or am uh? Nowadays people are talking

1161
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: about it more, it meaning racial equality. But things either

1162
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: call for things or they don't. I remember back when

1163
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: I was a child watching The Brady Bunch and they

1164
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: started to get all politically correct, like okay, let's have

1165
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: an Asian child and a black I used to get

1166
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: more offended by that than just I grew up watching

1167
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: black exploitation movies, and I said that's great. I didn't

1168
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: go like, Okay, there should be more white people in

1169
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: these movies. I was just like, I can't imagine him

1170
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: saying that, first of all, like not stuttering, because that's

1171
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: just like such an insane He's just so sheltered and weird,

1172
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: like congratulations on your easy life. Yeah, someone pointed out

1173
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just talking about it when that movie came out.

1174
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: How Like, for as much as Tim Burton like prides

1175
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: himself on being this director who writes about like films,

1176
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: movie about outsiders and unique weird, they're all really just

1177
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: a version of Tim Burton. Like everything. Every sissor Hands

1178
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: literally is tim Burton like with like scissory hands, like weird,

1179
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm weird. What doesn't anyone want to kiss me? He

1180
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: eventually found someone, but because he found well, he had

1181
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: one thing you cheated on and then one that left him.

1182
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: So let's talk about whether or not this movie passes

1183
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 1: the Petel tests. It doesn't. I don't think there's even

1184
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: a scene where two women with speaking roles are even

1185
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: in the same room together. I don't think so there

1186
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: know that. I think that Vicky and then the girl

1187
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: with the family the Opera phase are both in the

1188
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: same scene. At one point they both speak, but not

1189
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: to each other. What seems that in the art gallery

1190
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: when the Jokers like showing her oh, and she's like,

1191
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to let me watch you

1192
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: improve your art. Yeah, right, but she only talks to

1193
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: him because I was like, maybe it'll But now it fails.

1194
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: It is a big fat fail. Yeah, it doesn't pass

1195
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: the PACTO test. I bet it doesn't at all. I

1196
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: bet it because which one Batman Forever Batman Up Forever,

1197
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: I think only has one woman, and it has two

1198
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: women that I can think about top of my head.

1199
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: One of them is um Nicole Kidman's character who's like

1200
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: a psychotherapist. And it's also this lady who's like the

1201
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: gossip alumnus for for Gotham, and she's in both bat

1202
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: Man Forever and Batman and Robin and she's like, we're

1203
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: talking to Bruce Wayne. Bruce's God's most eligible bachelor, like

1204
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: that kind of lady. And then um El McPherson is

1205
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Bruce Wayne's girlfriend in Batman and Robin. And then Uma

1206
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: Thurman is that actually might only because it has bat

1207
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: Girl and poison ivy might be seen where those two

1208
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: are are fighting and talking about it. I think even then,

1209
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: I think that line is the line where like, well,

1210
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: I tell a lady phrases I pulled the pluck. So

1211
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: I think that she's still talking to back girl about

1212
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: Batman and Robbins's shoe. The fan of the operat absolutely

1213
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: passes it. All the ballerinas are chatting all the time

1214
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: about every witch thing. We should talk about very we can.

1215
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm very confused about, Uh, your movie tastes sometimes here's

1216
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: the thing, it's bad. Oh. The way we conclude every

1217
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: episode is to rate the movie in the context of

1218
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: its treatment of female characters, on a scale of zero

1219
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: to five nipples. I'll go first. I give this movie

1220
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: one half of a nipple because uh, and and and

1221
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: it's the nipple from I think George Clooney's costume. Yeah,

1222
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: the shue Locker nip, the Schuemocker nip. So it's that

1223
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: one that movie, Like the nipple and like butt shot

1224
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: bat suit thing. That's the very first set of shots

1225
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: in that movie, like like there's like literally nothing happening,

1226
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: and you just get a bunch of really close up

1227
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: shots of like everything homrotic about their suits. I kind

1228
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: of like that that they're sort of objectifying those men

1229
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: male body parts. There's even like really a shot where

1230
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: they just like they both had their own version of

1231
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: it where they just put their butt towards the camera

1232
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: and like you just like like the it's like it's

1233
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: like a fine butt shot. Nice. I have to I

1234
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I have to rewatch those, but do

1235
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think if you went

1236
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: on on YouTube you can probably find just that that

1237
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: sequence real quick. Charles also directed Kiss from a Row

1238
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: music video by Seal with great video. Actually, I think

1239
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 1: that maybe one of the first movies I saw his

1240
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: was Falling Down, which wasn't an interesting premise but not

1241
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: well executed. Yeah you heard it here first falling Down, Jamie.

1242
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: What do you rate this movie on a scale of

1243
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: one to I give it Michael Keaton's left nipple, which

1244
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: I imagine is hairless and has never been hard. So

1245
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: one one nipple. Yeah, okay, how about you? Ring? I

1246
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: think I will give it a nipple half nipple as well,

1247
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: because at least it has women in it and on

1248
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: them one of them has a job. Like those two

1249
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: women that have jobs three because there's three news, there's

1250
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: two newscasters and there's Vicky Vale. So on supermodels they

1251
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: have jobs too, that's but they're not really in it,

1252
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: like they're only in as corpses, so I don't count

1253
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: them like they're literally in it as photos of dead women.

1254
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: And then there's also weird creepy scene with jokers like

1255
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: talking about his products and he has like a pictures

1256
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: of their dead body with the with the mask and

1257
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: we love that joker, which is so creepy. Um So

1258
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: I can't get one than a half nips and I

1259
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: think the nip that I'm gonna go with is um

1260
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: boy whose nipple don't want to give it. I'm wanna

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Speaker 1: give a Billy d Williams nipple because he gets the shaft.

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Speaker 1: And later because the fear beloved Joel Schumacher to size,

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Speaker 1: we can't have Billy the Williams by two face, he

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Speaker 1: has to replace some with with Tommy Lee Jones. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we need a white southern guy to play this. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for calling him my Joel Shippmark. That did feel right, well, Riley,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you online? Follow you on Twitter

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Speaker 1: or stuff like that? Yeah? You can find me on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Rice Silverman on Twitter and i am Riley

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Speaker 1: Silverman dot com. And I have a new podcast myself

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Speaker 1: that's coming out. It may not be out by time

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Speaker 1: this episode airs, but it will be soon. And it's

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Speaker 1: called The Puppy Episode. And it is a a podcast

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Speaker 1: that is a retrospective of the Ellen Degenerous sitcom from

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Speaker 1: the nineties where You Kids Gay. So it's three queer

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Speaker 1: ladies talking about what it's like being queer and twenty

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Speaker 1: years later and what it was like when when we

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Speaker 1: were younger in that show came on, and like what

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Speaker 1: it's like since then. So it's it's interesting, I think,

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Speaker 1: and it should be fun to do. You're excited for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cool, Jamie. You can find me on the internet

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Speaker 1: at Hamburger Fun. You can find me at Joel Shoemaker's

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Speaker 1: house outside waiting. I want I have to mention. I

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Speaker 1: write for a podcast called International Waters. I always forget

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Speaker 1: to promote because I'm on the podcast, but I write. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dave Holmes the host, and it's a it's a interact.

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Speaker 1: It's a international panel show that de picts American comedians

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Speaker 1: versus British comedians and a pop culture about a royale,

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Speaker 1: and I write for it. I'm writing for about nine

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Speaker 1: months and I love writing for it, but I always

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Speaker 1: forget to promote it one one shows, but it's a

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Speaker 1: great show, so listen to it. It's fun twice someoneth.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I mean to interrupt your talk. Um, I oh,

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Speaker 1: I have a cartoon up on Cafe every week as

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Speaker 1: well on They're very funny. Thank you all about scissoring.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. They have been about sin sorry in the past.

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Speaker 1: Um you in Hey, you should follow the Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: like and subscribe and so you can rate us on iTunes.

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Speaker 1: We're on also, I think Google now in addition to iTunes,

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Speaker 1: shout out over there and you can email us too

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Speaker 1: if you want, if you have any like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: questions or comments or contributions. Pictures you drew us, pictures

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Speaker 1: you drew us scissoring together. I was going to say

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Speaker 1: I could make one if you're I've never been more

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Speaker 1: comfortable of anything in my entire life. O um. And

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Speaker 1: you can follow me at Caitlin Toronto, and I think

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Speaker 1: that is it. Riley, thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: here and talking about Batman with us. And h have

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Speaker 1: a good time. Everyone go see Lego. Batman also thinks

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Speaker 1: panties sponsor us. We need your sponsorship if you want.

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Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, I didn't want you said thanks. I

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Speaker 1: thought you said thanks. Pantings. Thanks to underwear for making

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Speaker 1: My closing thing is give Fami in the opera another chance.

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Speaker 1: You will not regret it. Cool. Cool, but