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Speaker 1: cards for the Dan Patrick Show. I had a conversation
Speaker 1: yesterday with somebody. Now in the first hour, I mentioned
Speaker 1: I have a source and I was trying to get
Speaker 1: information about the Cleveland Browns, and either he didn't know
Speaker 1: or he wasn't going to spill anything, because I said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing with the number two pick? Now
Speaker 1: that Russ is signed with the Giant. In fact, when
Speaker 1: I was talking to him, I said what about Russ
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, you just signed with the Giants.
Speaker 1: I go, okay, so he's not going to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: This is during the phone call. Then I go, okay,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're going to take Abdull Carter?
Speaker 1: You got to put him with Miles Garrett. Would you
Speaker 1: take you to Sanders. But Dion let his son go
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. Boy, it makes a lot of sense if
Speaker 1: Cleveland really likes Shador Sanders. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a rookie contract for your quarterback, and it eases the
Speaker 1: financial pain of what you stupidly paid to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: He wasn't given me anything. I said, what about Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins after the draft? Would you take Kirk Cousins? Maybe, Well,
Speaker 1: he'd have to be healthy and it would cost us
Speaker 1: a draft pick, all right, couldn't get anything crickets. And
Speaker 1: then you look what the Giants are doing with Russ
Speaker 1: and Jameis Winston. Are they going to still take Shador Sanders?
Speaker 1: You know, I went the first hour without mentioning the
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers part of the equation. But it is real.
Speaker 1: It's either Pittsburgh or retirement. That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was Minnesota or retirement. But he
Speaker 1: did go there for six hours last Fridays. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: and what is he waiting for now? If he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to give an answer till after the draft and
Speaker 1: the Steelers are fine with that, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: Like it is my job to cover it do. I
Speaker 2: wish it happen sooner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, content, But if it's his time frame and the
Speaker 1: Steelers time frame and they're fine with both of that,
Speaker 1: you know parts of the equation, then I am I'm
Speaker 1: going all right, who cares? You know, a member of
Speaker 1: the media whining about something. All Right, I'll survive. But
Speaker 1: you do want to be ahead of the game kind
Speaker 1: of figure out. Okay, if he goes there, what's it mean?
Speaker 1: How long is he going to go there for? Would
Speaker 1: they still take a quarterback in the draft? You know,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of different things in there. Cam Ward,
Speaker 1: it feels like he has cemented himself as the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick. I'm guessing Tennessee does take him. I
Speaker 1: thought the Giants would try to move up. Cleveland probably
Speaker 1: doesn't want to move up. They'll be fine at too.
Speaker 1: They need help, and you could get Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter,
Speaker 1: and if you truly loved Shudoor Sanders, you take him.
Speaker 1: But you start to look at these quarterbacks and we
Speaker 1: pump them up because they're the next wave of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And I was curious when we had Matt Miller, the
Speaker 1: great draft expert for the Mothership on recently, I said,
Speaker 1: where would cam Ward be with last year's quarterback clans?
Speaker 3: If we were talking about last year's drafts, cam Ward
Speaker 3: would have been the sixth or seventh guy drafted, probably
Speaker 3: at quarterback, not overall at quarterback. And that might still
Speaker 3: make you a top ten pick, right because those guys
Speaker 3: flew up the board last year. But I do think
Speaker 3: he's being elevated. It is interesting both quarterbacks Sanders and Ward,
Speaker 3: they have some bad habits that are going to need
Speaker 3: coached out of them. Cam Ward's kind of get dismissed
Speaker 3: because he has a strong arm.
Speaker 1: So that's Matt Miller, draft analyst for the Mothership of
Speaker 1: where these quarterbacks would be. I think that's the general
Speaker 1: consensus is cam Ward would be after bo Nicks. JJ
Speaker 1: McCarthy is still, you know, front and center for the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, and he was asked one whether or not
Speaker 1: he's the starting quarterback in Minnesota.
Speaker 4: We as a fan base or even media found out, like,
Speaker 4: you're the guy, the the guy recently?
Speaker 3: When did you know? When did they tell you or
Speaker 3: when does that message to you?
Speaker 5: They haven't told men. I'm happy they didn't because I
Speaker 5: try to earn it every single day, and I never
Speaker 5: want that to be given to me, and it's such
Speaker 5: a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance,
Speaker 5: and I'm just going to make the most of it
Speaker 5: every single day.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 1: That's with Kay Adams up in Adams JJ McCarthy. Look,
Speaker 1: it might be fake humility, but it's going over well
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. So you're looking at Aaron Rodgers and saying,
Speaker 1: I guess it's Pittsburgh. When is it going to be Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: And what do they do in the draft, because I
Speaker 1: don't know if you say, hey, we're going to bring
Speaker 1: in Aaron, but by the way, we're going to use
Speaker 1: our first round. You imagine if they use a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick, I think the twenty first overall pick
Speaker 1: on Jackson dark So he would be with a team
Speaker 1: that uses their first round pick on another quarterback. Now
Speaker 1: do I think it makes sense for Pittsburgh If you
Speaker 1: really think Jackson Dart can play, then it makes sense.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it if it made sense in Green
Speaker 1: Bay at the time, I didn't think it made sense
Speaker 1: because Aaron was playing well. He went on his revenge tour.
Speaker 1: You've never gotten in a wide receiver in the first round,
Speaker 1: and now did it turn out to be the correct call? Yes,
Speaker 1: Green Bay makes a lot of correct calls. But at
Speaker 1: the time I thought, and even when we had Rogers
Speaker 1: on after the draft, I think that's when he decided
Speaker 1: that he was going to have a larger glass at tequila.
Speaker 1: After he realized that Jordan Love the Packers have selected
Speaker 1: quarterback Jordan Love, give me a little bit more tequila
Speaker 1: in there?
Speaker 6: All right?
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Speaker 1: for hour two? I can't believe there's this.
Speaker 7: Much support for Jameis Winston, but that better pregame speech
Speaker 7: guy on the Giants right now, Jameis Winston still has
Speaker 7: ninety percent of that vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, odd that we came up with that, But we
Speaker 1: did think about who's going to motivate you in that
Speaker 1: Giants locker room when you get ready to go out
Speaker 1: and face the Eagles. Is it Jamis Winston or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Let's ride p giant.
Speaker 2: We're putting up there right now.
Speaker 7: Question Paully sent over if you could put one into
Speaker 7: place A hard salary cap and baseball or a return
Speaker 7: to the old transfer system in college sports.
Speaker 2: M Well, it's a little heavy. That's just what we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, un exactly lighthearted sports radio conversation.
Speaker 2: I went our one.
Speaker 7: You can't get much more lighthearted than Jamis Winston v.
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson. I mean, so Russ goes to the Giants.
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots got Stefan Diggs, which is the
Speaker 1: Patriots have had a sneaky good offseason. They have the
Speaker 1: fourth pick in the draft. Worst case scenario, they end
Speaker 1: up with Travis Hunter Abdul Carter. That's not a bad
Speaker 1: consolation prize. You feel like you do have your quarterback.
Speaker 1: They had a whole lot of money to spend. They
Speaker 1: had salary cap money, and Drake may I thought, did
Speaker 1: a for a team that had nothing on offense. He
Speaker 1: made something with that team and they have added some
Speaker 1: pieces offensive lineman, defensive lineman. Now you have the fourth
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Stefan Diggs was on his way
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. He may still be on
Speaker 1: his way to the Hall of Fame. But I just
Speaker 1: wonder about you know, when you he wasn't healthy, got
Speaker 1: banged up in Houston. You know whatever happened in Buffalo
Speaker 1: where you know he ended up in Houston. Now you
Speaker 1: end up in New England, still coming off surgery. But
Speaker 1: if you look at what he did in Buffalo, here's
Speaker 1: the most one hundred plus catch seasons in the first
Speaker 1: nine years of a career. Antonio Brown in six of
Speaker 1: his first nine years had over one hundred catches with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs has had five, Brandon Marshall had five, Wes
Speaker 1: Welker had five, DeVante Adams for DeAndre Hopkins four, Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison four and Keenan Allen four.
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Speaker 1: was going to the Hall of Fame. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody had more catches over a five year window than
Speaker 1: he did. But he had six seasons. And look, I
Speaker 1: think when he got knocked out concussed by Vontez perfect,
Speaker 1: I think it seemed to change him. And I think
Speaker 1: we've seen and Tonio Brown is not a normal person.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that hit did to him. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, I always thought it just he seemed different
Speaker 1: after that.
Speaker 2: But I didn't know him.
Speaker 1: I think we've had him on once or twice, maybe
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl one time. Charismatic dude. But times
Speaker 1: have changed though. You know when he freaked out, you know,
Speaker 1: left the building during a game. Stefan Diggs is you know,
Speaker 1: he was in Minnesota. He wanted to have and get paid,
Speaker 1: have his moment, got it in Buffalo, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Buffalo seemed to be better, you know,
Speaker 1: by you know, getting rid of Stefan Diggs. It's hard
Speaker 1: to say that about a Hall of Fame where you go,
Speaker 1: you know, the team got better because they got rid
Speaker 1: of a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver. I don't
Speaker 1: know if any of these receivers are going to the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Antonio Brown, Stefan Diggs, Brandon Marshall, Wes Wilker,
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is probably going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Harrison is already a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I don't know if catches matter, Yeah, but I haven't
Speaker 1: been in the voting room or Peter King's the only
Speaker 1: one I've really talked about what goes on in there
Speaker 1: and what they factor in, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's fluid when they start to look at Hall of famers.
Speaker 1: Are you looking at the same thing now with wide
Speaker 1: receivers as you did five years ago? What about ten
Speaker 1: years ago? I remember when it was man, if you
Speaker 1: get to a thousand catches, it was like ten thousand
Speaker 1: yards for a running back. I don't think it's the
Speaker 1: case in either situation. Now are we going to have?
Speaker 1: How many running backs? Are Christian McCaffrey's not going to
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, he said, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry going to the Hall of Fame. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's any other running back that is playing now,
Speaker 1: Like Saquon Barkley need to have three or four more
Speaker 1: great seasons, but he certainly got back on track in
Speaker 1: a big way. And you're playing in Philadelphia behind that
Speaker 1: offensive line with all those weapons. He could end up,
Speaker 1: you know, four or five fifteen hundred yard seasons, win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl two thousand yards, then you'd be a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. But yeah, I start to look at
Speaker 1: these numbers and you go, I don't know what matters anymore,
Speaker 1: because for a long long time, it felt like the
Speaker 1: running game was the short passing game, that we don't
Speaker 1: need a running back, we just need a running back
Speaker 1: who can block and also catch passes. Now, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we got a couple of running backs who
Speaker 1: were getting fifteen, eighteen, two thousand yards, and now it's
Speaker 1: kind of back in vogue, and Ashton Genty could be
Speaker 1: one of those running backs who comes in and plays
Speaker 1: right away. When you get a comp of Emmitt Smith
Speaker 1: by one draft analyst, So when somebody says Ashton Genty,
Speaker 1: they go, Emmitt Smith with speed.
Speaker 2: Whoh I draft him?
Speaker 1: Now? I voted for him for the Heisman, but you
Speaker 1: can't go wrong with who won. But in my mind,
Speaker 1: Ashton gent what he did? You know, he led his
Speaker 1: team then you know, ended up finished runner up and
Speaker 1: he'll probably be the seventh pick overall.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Pauline, Yeah, If you look at the all time
Speaker 10: rushing leaders, active players on the list are Derrick Henry, Ezekiel.
Speaker 10: Elliott's got nine thousand yards, but he's it was all
Speaker 10: done in his.
Speaker 8: First four years.
Speaker 2: Yeah he's not.
Speaker 6: Nope.
Speaker 10: Joe Mixon is an all purpose back Saquan's at seven
Speaker 10: thousand yards, but he's more all purpose yardage. Aaron Jones,
Speaker 10: Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs is having.
Speaker 8: A very good career. Yeah, it's early.
Speaker 10: Going back to Antonio Brown, he had a six year
Speaker 10: window where he had seven hundred catches in six years,
Speaker 10: all made the Pro Bowl every single time, and had
Speaker 10: four First team All pros. If he didn't implode and
Speaker 10: left the sport due to injury, would he get the
Speaker 10: Hall of Fame Hall pass?
Speaker 1: Well, let's say he had seven years that he played
Speaker 1: in the NFL, or even six. You know, we do
Speaker 1: have precedent here. You have Terrell Davis. Now we would
Speaker 1: always bring up Gail Sears, but Terrell Davis's modern day.
Speaker 1: You know, injury cut short his career. If Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: had an injury that cut short his career, then maybe
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to factor in anything other than what
Speaker 1: you do on the football field. The voters are told
Speaker 1: that other sports they do factor in who you are,
Speaker 1: But I also have to factor in how you were
Speaker 1: as a teammate. That's the only other aspect with this
Speaker 1: that I can look at your performance. I also have
Speaker 1: to look at you give and then you take away
Speaker 1: and that's going to hurt him. It's like Tara Owens
Speaker 1: to me, was a first ballot Hall of Famer, but
Speaker 1: he didn't get in first ballot.
Speaker 6: I don't think.
Speaker 2: What second or third time.
Speaker 1: Mar Michael Irvin, you know, to me, first maun Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, but off the field, and they're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be factoring that in.
Speaker 2: Will they factor that in with Antonio Brown?
Speaker 6: They will?
Speaker 1: And not that Stefan Diggs is in the Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: category of disruptive. But it didn't go well in Buffalo
Speaker 1: at the end. I mean, Houston just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: You thought with you know, those two young receivers there
Speaker 1: and you bring in Stephan Diggs with that quarterback and wow,
Speaker 1: all right, you guys can challenge for the AFC title.
Speaker 11: Yes, Marvin, Yeah, And I think Stephan Diggs might be
Speaker 11: in the Tiki Barber category. Say, if the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 11: win a Super Bowl and they win without him, that's
Speaker 11: gonna hurt his chances. I think that's what hurts Tiki Barbie.
Speaker 11: If he stays another year and they win a Super
Speaker 11: Bowl with him as a big contributor, I think his
Speaker 11: Hall of Fame case is way stronger than it is now.
Speaker 1: Look at that, Marvin is hijacking Paul's Tiki Barber.
Speaker 11: I've owned that for a decade. At the end, Tiki
Speaker 11: Barber was as good as any running back.
Speaker 6: But I think I.
Speaker 8: Got the point.
Speaker 2: Mark, Yeah, easy, he got easy. You're piling on, piling on.
Speaker 8: I want to get some eighty five bears talking them.
Speaker 2: Mark, pauliar Dan is the great.
Speaker 1: Paulie thinks more highly of Tiki Barber's Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: chances than Tiki Barber does.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, what do you think, Tikki? I don't know, Paulie,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what he did in the last
Speaker 1: five years and fifteen hundred number of catchers. There's nobody
Speaker 1: else in America who talks about Tiki Barber's career.
Speaker 8: Maybe for a reason, we.
Speaker 1: Can't even get Tiki Barber on to talk about Tiki
Speaker 1: Barber's career. He's probably like, no, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. All right, let me take a break, all right, Ernie,
Speaker 1: I gotta clean up my act. I got a professional
Speaker 1: broadcaster here coming up.
Speaker 2: That's my hair.
Speaker 6: Look.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have worn this sweatshirt with Ernie'll probably have a
Speaker 1: bow tie on, you know, be all professorial.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, look at that Ernesto. He looks sloppy, just
Speaker 2: like me.
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it all right, we'll take a break
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Speaker 6: If I had a tail, it'd be Wagon Day.
Speaker 9: I like it.
Speaker 6: I like it.
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the different jobs that
Speaker 1: you have now you still get to work with Chuck,
Speaker 1: but when you do March maddness, compare that to working
Speaker 1: the NBA show.
Speaker 6: Think the biggest difference is Clark Kellogg, who is He's
Speaker 6: so tied into the college game. He's a guy you
Speaker 6: just lean on like crazy because for us, you know,
Speaker 6: it's we pay attention to the college game, but our
Speaker 6: focus is the NBA. So you really need to have
Speaker 6: a guy like Clark or Seth Davis in the Atlanta
Speaker 6: studio or Jay Wright somebody like that. So that's been
Speaker 6: the biggest difference. But I think just in the terms
Speaker 6: of the vibe and how we do the show, I
Speaker 6: think it took a little while, but you know, the CBS,
Speaker 6: with their you know, with the way they do things,
Speaker 6: they kind of said, Okay, yeah, you guys can you
Speaker 6: guys can do this. You know, you guys can be
Speaker 6: your NBA kind of guys and do your show that way.
Speaker 6: And that started, I mean the first year, you know,
Speaker 6: they wanted the guys in for a for a production
Speaker 6: meeting two hours before we went on the air, and
Speaker 6: Chucks hadvice that's that's a hard no. And so so
Speaker 6: once we got through that adjustment period that you know,
Speaker 6: we pretty much we pretty much do our.
Speaker 1: Thing, but you have situations and you had it recently
Speaker 1: with Charles that he might not be watching what he's
Speaker 1: supposed to watch, and then you have to correct him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how college basketball fans react to that,
Speaker 1: whereas NBA fans like, we kind of expect Chuck to
Speaker 1: go this game sucks, but with college basketball march madness
Speaker 1: can't exactly get away with that.
Speaker 6: Oh we're able to get away with it because we
Speaker 6: still had Kenny and Clark there who could cover that game.
Speaker 6: It's not like, not like we were going to ignore it,
Speaker 6: but it was. What was funny is that he looked
Speaker 6: down like he was going to really say something, like
Speaker 6: he had made a couple of notes and then realized
Speaker 6: he hadn't watched any of it. It's like it was
Speaker 6: like a couple of years ago. Chuck has always taken
Speaker 6: great bride and his Oscar picks and says, you know,
Speaker 6: he never misses Juan And so we were talking about
Speaker 6: Best Picture, and nineteen eighteen was up for Best Picture,
Speaker 6: and so we're talking about it, and he says, I
Speaker 6: think the best picture is going to be nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 6: I said, well, tell me about it. He said, we
Speaker 6: know it's your basic you know what, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 6: So yeah, So moments like that, you're kind of you've
Speaker 6: kind of come to expect.
Speaker 1: When did you realize though, that this was different? With
Speaker 1: how social media was viewing you guys and the clips
Speaker 1: that are played over and over, like there's a seismic shift.
Speaker 1: When I did Sports Center, you watched Sports Center. Now
Speaker 1: people don't watch Sports Center as much as they'll take
Speaker 1: clips and watch them on social media. How did that
Speaker 1: affect how you guys did TNT.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it had a great effect. I
Speaker 6: know it made it more accessible for folks who didn't
Speaker 6: want to stay up till one thirty or two o'clock
Speaker 6: in the morning and watch the show, even though sometimes
Speaker 6: it would be replayed on NBA TV in the morning.
Speaker 6: But I mean, that's the world we live in. I
Speaker 6: mean that was and you're you and I are both
Speaker 6: old enough to remember DT that you know, and there
Speaker 6: may have been times where you had a you did
Speaker 6: a show and you didn't know exactly how it was
Speaker 6: received or if people thought something was funny, and the
Speaker 6: only way you knew was if Rudy Marsky wrote about
Speaker 6: it on Monday. You know, it was like, and now
Speaker 6: everything is so instantaneous. It's like you throw a line
Speaker 6: out there and all of a sudden you're getting skewered
Speaker 6: or you're getting praised, and yeah, it's just a different world.
Speaker 6: But you you don't do it for the you know,
Speaker 6: how many likes you get or anything like that. You're
Speaker 6: just doing your job and that's how we that's how
Speaker 6: we do ours.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we didn't have social media. I just
Speaker 1: because we did it without knowing. As you said, if
Speaker 1: anybody's what, I didn't know ratings, We didn't know anything,
Speaker 1: huh huh. And I remember the first time I found
Speaker 1: out that we might be not have a following or
Speaker 1: be popular is I went to the SP's and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you run into Jerry Seinfeld and you
Speaker 1: run into Bill Murray and they're reciting lines back to you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'll be damn, there are people actually
Speaker 1: watching this show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: And I was, I was so you know my story
Speaker 6: along that Vein is being out in LA for a
Speaker 6: playoff game, and walked away shaking my head because Denzel
Speaker 6: Washington knew who I was. He's like, I watch you
Speaker 6: guys all the time. I was like, really, that's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So there were those moments that that kind of shop
Speaker 6: and grab you, and it's like, I guess we do
Speaker 6: have a lot of folks who are who were watching
Speaker 6: the show.
Speaker 1: Is Ernie Johnson, Hall of Famer, Turner Sports Studio host
Speaker 1: inside the NBA State of College Sports. I know that
Speaker 1: nil transfer portal is a topic of conversation. Where do
Speaker 1: you stand with this?
Speaker 6: I think that I think we all agreed that something
Speaker 6: had to be done and that and that there had
Speaker 6: to be a way that the college athletes who were
Speaker 6: who were making all this money for these schools needed
Speaker 6: to be compensated one, you know, some way. But then
Speaker 6: it just it just went from hey, this that's a
Speaker 6: good idea to all right, whatever you want, and it
Speaker 6: was like a zero to sixty, zero to one hundred
Speaker 6: and and so that's how I kind of look at
Speaker 6: it is that, yeah, we we all kind of agreed,
Speaker 6: But then are there should there be some limitations? Should
Speaker 6: or is this going to just price up the smaller
Speaker 6: schools out because they don't they can't lure anybody into
Speaker 6: their into their places. So yeah, I think I think
Speaker 6: just in that regard that yeah, we're we just kind
Speaker 6: of let it happen without without any regulation. And then
Speaker 6: and and the transfer portal is I would not want
Speaker 6: to be a coach, and I can certainly see where
Speaker 6: where guys like Tony Bennett and Jay Wright and others
Speaker 6: have said, you know, it's enough of this. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna work my ass off and recruit this kid
Speaker 6: and he's gonna come to my place. And now I've
Speaker 6: got to keep recruiting him as he's in my program,
Speaker 6: because he's just gonna leave, you know, if he's not
Speaker 6: getting the run that he wants or whatever. So no,
Speaker 6: it's it's it's changed everything dramatic Lee, for sure. And
Speaker 6: and it's always strange to look down as I'm you know,
Speaker 6: I'm doing my numbers and my rosters and that kind
Speaker 6: of thing when I'm getting ready in the months leading
Speaker 6: up to the say wow, this kid's been in Kyle,
Speaker 6: this guy's been this is the sixth season, you know,
Speaker 6: And so yeah, that's that's kind of been the amazing
Speaker 6: part to me.
Speaker 2: Did you fill out a bracket?
Speaker 6: I did, and it's really good. Oh it's really good.
Speaker 6: I think I could have it right here. I've been
Speaker 6: in New York. I've got a two week I got
Speaker 6: a two weeks stay in New York for this. I
Speaker 6: did not go back to Atlanta and then come back
Speaker 6: in between the rounds because all I'm doing is basically
Speaker 6: working on the show. So okay, this is really good
Speaker 6: for your show that I'm rifling through here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good radio.
Speaker 6: Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six. Okay, I
Speaker 6: got ten of the sixteen Sweet sixteen, seven out of
Speaker 6: eight Elite eight and entire final four still, which is
Speaker 6: not bad in my in my opinion, I've got I've
Speaker 6: got Florida beating uh, Michigan State and Duke beating Tennessee
Speaker 6: in the final four. How about you let that meat?
Speaker 6: Does that meet with your approval?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But why don't you let me pat you on
Speaker 1: the back? Not you pat yourself on the back that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I think that's a great idea. I don't know what.
Speaker 6: I don't know what came over.
Speaker 1: Like, do you have sports Emmys that you pack with
Speaker 1: you when you go to New York for you know,
Speaker 1: just so you can be unfamiliar surroundings, just.
Speaker 6: A just a few of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 6: It's you know what, you know what's bad. It's like
Speaker 6: packing for for eight shows and two weeks up here,
Speaker 6: So I like I've been living in this all star hoodie.
Speaker 6: The whole the whole time in New York. So you
Speaker 6: didn't really expect me to get up and put a
Speaker 6: bow tie on.
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you didn't because I had a sweatshirt
Speaker 1: on it and I go, oh my god, I got
Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson on.
Speaker 6: I live in these I would if I didn't have
Speaker 6: to get dressed up. This would be me all the time.
Speaker 2: Why don't you do a casual broadcast one day?
Speaker 6: Mmmm?
Speaker 2: You guys get to do whatever you want.
Speaker 6: Why why should we do a casual brook Why not?
Speaker 6: We have certain standards?
Speaker 2: Oh you do, okay?
Speaker 6: You know what the guys, the other guys are casual sometimes.
Speaker 1: Well, Charles is always making fun of Anthony Davis. You know,
Speaker 1: street clothes, So why don't you guys have a street
Speaker 1: clothes show?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: And homage to Anthony Davis?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: That, I don't know if it would come off as why.
Speaker 1: What's the biggest storyline the rest of the season to you?
Speaker 6: In the NBA? In the NBA, you know, I I
Speaker 6: think things are kind of looking a little bit clear
Speaker 6: cut as far as who's going to finish where and
Speaker 6: who they're who they might play. I think my my
Speaker 6: biggest question is is okay See ready for this? You know,
Speaker 6: it's because obviously they have got a squad and s
Speaker 6: g A is unbelievable. Now can you get over that
Speaker 6: hump and get to that Western Conference final? And then
Speaker 6: can you get to the NBA finals? So I think,
Speaker 6: you know, is ok c ready for this, for this step?
Speaker 6: Because we already know Boston's ready for that step? Is
Speaker 6: Cleveland ready for that step? You know? Does a great
Speaker 6: regular season translate? So those to me are the big
Speaker 6: questions because I don't see a whole lot of other
Speaker 6: folks who could win the title. You know, I can
Speaker 6: see Boston in the finals. I could see Cleveland maybe
Speaker 6: in the finals if they're you know, if they're at
Speaker 6: home and if they get a break here and there.
Speaker 6: But I you know, out West, it's okay See, And
Speaker 6: I don't know if Houston's ready for that yet. It's
Speaker 6: been fun watching them, but and you can't count Denver
Speaker 6: out if you know, when Joker's healthy. But I think
Speaker 6: the question, yeah, the question is is okay See ready
Speaker 6: for this?
Speaker 2: When do you know when Barkley is truly upset?
Speaker 6: Truly upset?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like mad don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know that I've ever really seen Chuck very
Speaker 6: mad Chuck is you know, Chuck comes in every night
Speaker 6: the same way. Hey, let's have some fun tonight, you know.
Speaker 6: And so I haven't really seen him really hot. Yeah, Shack,
Speaker 6: I've seen Shack get hot. You know. One night was
Speaker 6: when we were going, you know, he got mad because
Speaker 6: Chuck took all his time, and then he just kind
Speaker 6: of clammed up and he didn't want to talk, he
Speaker 6: didn't want to be part of the show. And and
Speaker 6: and we've had we had a night where he was
Speaker 6: late for a show, and and he and I kind
Speaker 6: of talked, and I said, man, he got a beat. Man.
Speaker 6: I left three hours ever the traffic was there. And
Speaker 6: then and then the next day he didn't even talk
Speaker 6: to me. It's like I would look at it. I
Speaker 6: looked at him working with the show, and I'm asking
Speaker 6: him a question and I'm getting three word answers, and
Speaker 6: I finally just had to do in a commercial break,
Speaker 6: just had to get up and give him a big
Speaker 6: old hug and say, man, you know I love you.
Speaker 6: You know that. You know I don't mean anything by that,
Speaker 6: you know, And then and then he was okay. But yeah,
Speaker 6: there have been a couple of times where he gets
Speaker 6: he'll get a little sensitive. I don't know how mad
Speaker 6: he'll get, but he'll clam up a little bit, and
Speaker 6: then you're then you're pulling teeth.
Speaker 2: It's like you're a parent there.
Speaker 6: The way it's been best described dad is that I'm
Speaker 6: the dad driving cross country with these three guys in
Speaker 6: the back seat saying one more peep out of you,
Speaker 6: and I'm turning this thing around.
Speaker 2: Don't make me come back there.
Speaker 6: That's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Don't make me come back there. Well, who would make
Speaker 1: you more nervous? Chuck or shake? I guess Shack, you know,
Speaker 1: given the signs make.
Speaker 6: Me more nervous. What if I if I were to
Speaker 6: pull that? Yeah, No, he's shaq Is. I have no
Speaker 6: fear of Shack at all. Shack. Shack and I have
Speaker 6: a special relationship. And he always says it dates back
Speaker 6: to when I went and did a story on him
Speaker 6: when he was at L s U and he was
Speaker 6: living in San Antonio, and he's I remember that day
Speaker 6: and night and when you can't and it really wasn't
Speaker 6: it was nineteen ninety one. But but yeah, I think
Speaker 6: I think that we, you know, we had a great
Speaker 6: thing going with that bunch, you know, we really have
Speaker 6: and so.
Speaker 2: And what do you what are you doing now? What
Speaker 2: are you going to do?
Speaker 6: What am I going to do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you following everybody?
Speaker 6: Yeah? That's I mean, this is the plan. This is
Speaker 6: the plan. That's we're going to do. Continue to do
Speaker 6: the show, okay, And but it's just not going to
Speaker 6: air on TNT because the NBA on tn T is
Speaker 6: no more after after these playoffs. But we'll still do
Speaker 6: the show in Atlanta, Okay, It'll still do it with
Speaker 6: the same production croup. It'll just air on ABC, Slash
Speaker 6: ESPN on certain nights.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I think it looked kind of shaky there
Speaker 1: for a while that we didn't know what direction. You
Speaker 1: probably were left out in the cold two on this.
Speaker 1: But and then if it was moving out of Atlanta,
Speaker 1: would you continue to do it?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 2: No, that was a breaker.
Speaker 6: That's yeah, that's home and it's and so yeah, I
Speaker 6: think look I can kind of see the finish line.
Speaker 6: You know. It's I remember when Don maguire hired me
Speaker 6: at Turner back in nineteen eighty nine, and he was
Speaker 6: like May seven eight years in that studio chair. That's all.
Speaker 6: You know, You're not gonna want it any more than that.
Speaker 6: Now it's been thirty five and and so there are
Speaker 6: a lot of things to do out there, and and
Speaker 6: so I can't wait for next year, can't wait to
Speaker 6: can't wait to stay with the guys. But and then
Speaker 6: we'll just see for the years after that if you
Speaker 6: know what comes up and what I what I feel
Speaker 6: like doing.
Speaker 1: Adam Lefko is listening intently on that that last dance leftgo.
Speaker 6: Adam Leftko is great. Yeah, he's really really, really solid.
Speaker 6: And so but it's not, no, do don't get this twisted.
Speaker 6: It's not like I'm going to hang We're going to
Speaker 6: hang up here and suddenly I have retired. No. You
Speaker 6: know a lot of times when you're running a marathon
Speaker 6: from you can see the finish line from a long
Speaker 6: way away. Not that I have any marathon experience, so
Speaker 6: it's not like I'm not like, I'm in this sprint
Speaker 6: and the finish line is eight meters away, and it's
Speaker 6: just that I can. When you get to this point,
Speaker 6: it's like, all right, let's see how this is looking.
Speaker 1: They will survive without us, which is amazing, Ernie. They will, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think the medium will continue?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've been told, Hey, they'll survive
Speaker 1: without you, So I'm going to take their word for it.
Speaker 2: I'm done in three.
Speaker 6: Years, all right, So you've made the decision. Three years? Yes,
Speaker 6: how old will you be in three years?
Speaker 2: I will be seventy one?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but seventy one in three years.
Speaker 2: Why don't we go out together?
Speaker 6: Wouldn't that be nice? Right? Wouldn't that that would just
Speaker 6: tug at the heart.
Speaker 1: But you go first, You go first, and then the
Speaker 1: next day I'll do it. I'm going to retire I
Speaker 1: think in Atlanta after the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: All right, and.
Speaker 13: Well maybe we could do it at CNN Center where
Speaker 13: you Yeah, you have some roots. Yeah, now we're talking. Yes,
Speaker 13: it'll be emotional. Well, yes, yes, that'll be great. I'll
Speaker 13: do another headline sports. You know, I'll do one more
Speaker 13: for the road. Oh man, maybe we'd bring in van.
Speaker 1: Or al right and get Earle to do a CNN
Speaker 1: headline sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 6: Or Phil van whatever happened to Phil van Horn by.
Speaker 1: The way, I think he became a baseball coach, maybe
Speaker 1: in California, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, was my colleague and a friend of yours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Phil, then today, Yeah, I think he married
Speaker 1: a song girl from USC.
Speaker 6: WO.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do a lot more than I. Well, I
Speaker 1: keep up on the song girls at USC. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying Phil has got it.
Speaker 6: Phil is somewhere right now saying, oh, why are they
Speaker 6: talking about me?
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Have fun and thanks again. Ernie.
Speaker 6: Always a pleasure, DP, Always a pleasure.
Speaker 1: That's Ernie Johnson. He is the Turner Sports Award winning
Speaker 1: studio host Hall of Fame. He'll be in studio coming up.
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Speaker 1: telling me a story yesterday, and this has to do
Speaker 1: with a two famous people and they were dating each
Speaker 1: other and one's a former athlete, the other is a
Speaker 1: famous entertainer. And he was talking about, you know, when
Speaker 1: they went out they don't date anymore, but he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I called her i'my and my friend goes, i'my.
Speaker 1: He goes, yes. She could never start a conversation a
Speaker 1: sentence without saying I or me. And his nickname was i'my.
Speaker 8: Wow, oh I know.
Speaker 1: No names, but uh I I can see it now.
Speaker 1: But it didn't work out. You know, they went their
Speaker 1: separate ways. Yeah, I me, We're going to go in
Speaker 1: another direction here.
Speaker 7: So it's a little awkward too, because when your your
Speaker 7: critique of that person is like you always talk about
Speaker 7: I am me. Everything is about you, Like, can't we
Speaker 7: talk about me once in a while, And you're like,
Speaker 7: oh so you you want everything to be about you?
Speaker 2: I'my kind of win called her i'my. How about we
Speaker 2: play in around.
Speaker 1: You're either in or you're out, Paul, what's the first
Speaker 1: topic for in around?
Speaker 8: Just to recap, I'm going to make a statement.
Speaker 10: If you're in, you say in, and then subsequent Cooper
Speaker 10: Flag should stay in college another year.
Speaker 8: I'll go last.
Speaker 2: Tod h Man, I think he.
Speaker 7: Should probably go all right, Marvin out out out, So
Speaker 7: I guess that means I'm out.
Speaker 10: Sorry, Yeah, I mean I know he has to go
Speaker 10: pro to get to the second contract, the super Max
Speaker 10: and all the stuff. He did skip his senior year
Speaker 10: of high school, right, so he's already well advanced. Imagine
Speaker 10: if he did the opposite and stayed in college, it
Speaker 10: would be so novel. He'd get truckloads of coverage. He'd
Speaker 10: get bigger, stronger, and better as he entered the league,
Speaker 10: and he'd actually be seen more by basketball fans playing
Speaker 10: at Duke than he would with the Washington Wizards. No
Speaker 10: one's watching the Wizards barely. If he gets there next year. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I think it would be such a novel move in
Speaker 10: this era's for him to do it, and he'd get
Speaker 10: truckloads of cover.
Speaker 1: Oh he would, But he'd get truckloads of money when
Speaker 1: he gets to the that's the second contract in the NBA.
Speaker 8: What do you think he could asked for to stay
Speaker 8: another year?
Speaker 2: Ten million?
Speaker 8: That's that's about what the number one pick in the
Speaker 8: draft makes.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, but that's why they go in early. So
Speaker 1: you'll get into that second and third he's gonna have.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make a billion dollars. Let's say he's he's
Speaker 1: he's legitimate, and he's healthy. He'll get three MAX deals.
Speaker 1: You get the rookie deal, then you get another deal.
Speaker 1: And he's eighteen, so he's going to get two max deals.
Speaker 1: He's going to make close to a billion dollars. But
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, all right, what else do
Speaker 1: we have?
Speaker 6: The interunt.
Speaker 10: I'm in favor of a much more stringent transfer system
Speaker 10: in college sports.
Speaker 8: I'll go first.
Speaker 1: I'm in shock er, Yeah, yeah, yeah, seatan.
Speaker 7: Much more stringent is a tough word. I'm okay with parameters,
Speaker 7: but if given the choice between lock it all down
Speaker 7: or wild West, I'll take wild West.
Speaker 2: All right, Marvin, I'm out here we go.
Speaker 6: I'm out.
Speaker 10: When I hear Stefan Diggs's name, I think future Hall
Speaker 10: of Famer.
Speaker 8: Damn.
Speaker 2: Oh uh I'm out. I'm out, pritty, I'm going to
Speaker 2: say in on that, see out, Martin out. All right,
Speaker 2: this one should be fun.
Speaker 10: Russell Wilson stay with the New York Giants will be
Speaker 10: a positive experience for everyone involved.
Speaker 2: Well, Todd out, Stan Marvin out. I'm in.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think that it can be a pleasant experience
Speaker 1: for everybody.
Speaker 2: They just won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Yees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm team Russ.
Speaker 8: Yeah I am.
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, I think I'm in. Didn't the Steelers win ten
Speaker 10: games last year? Didn't they sneak into the playoffs?
Speaker 1: But justin Fields, Yeah, Joan.
Speaker 8: Maybe ms team up.
Speaker 7: They were actually on their way to the playoffs and
Speaker 7: something happened.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, two hours in the books, One more to go.
Speaker 1: Just call me imy I me we Dan and The
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