WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Cam Ward’s Draft Stock, Ernie Johnson 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.520 Sports Radio. It's our two on this Wednesday. The great 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.880 Ernie Johnson will join us. Coming up a little bit 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.200 phone calls. More of those on the way settle on 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.840 a poll question for hour two. Make sure you go 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.639 to danpatrick dot com Clearance sale. You can pick up 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.960 a lot of great items. Stat of the Day is 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:22.720 always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.919 cards for the Dan Patrick Show. I had a conversation 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.960 yesterday with somebody. Now in the first hour, I mentioned 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.400 I have a source and I was trying to get 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:35.080 information about the Cleveland Browns, and either he didn't know 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.200 or he wasn't going to spill anything, because I said, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.360 what are you doing with the number two pick? Now 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.239 that Russ is signed with the Giant. In fact, when 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.760 I was talking to him, I said what about Russ 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.040 And he goes, well, you just signed with the Giants. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.960 I go, okay, so he's not going to the Cleveland Browns. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.840 This is during the phone call. Then I go, okay, 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:56.920 what are you doing. You're going to take Abdull Carter? 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.520 You got to put him with Miles Garrett. Would you 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.840 take you to Sanders. But Dion let his son go 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.400 to Cleveland. Boy, it makes a lot of sense if 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.880 Cleveland really likes Shador Sanders. Now, all of a sudden, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.880 a rookie contract for your quarterback, and it eases the 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.200 financial pain of what you stupidly paid to Shaun Watson. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.959 He wasn't given me anything. I said, what about Kirk 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:22.240 Cousins after the draft? Would you take Kirk Cousins? Maybe, Well, 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.600 he'd have to be healthy and it would cost us 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:29.679 a draft pick, all right, couldn't get anything crickets. And 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.840 then you look what the Giants are doing with Russ 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.960 and Jameis Winston. Are they going to still take Shador Sanders? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.800 You know, I went the first hour without mentioning the 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.360 Aaron Rodgers part of the equation. But it is real. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.080 It's either Pittsburgh or retirement. That's what it feels like. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.680 And I thought it was Minnesota or retirement. But he 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.920 did go there for six hours last Fridays. Everybody knows 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.960 and what is he waiting for now? If he doesn't 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.680 want to give an answer till after the draft and 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:05.920 the Steelers are fine with that, I'm fine with it. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.440 Like it is my job to cover it do. I 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:10.960 wish it happen sooner. 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:15.720 Yeah, content, But if it's his time frame and the 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.880 Steelers time frame and they're fine with both of that, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.480 you know parts of the equation, then I am I'm 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.840 going all right, who cares? You know, a member of 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.080 the media whining about something. All Right, I'll survive. But 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.760 you do want to be ahead of the game kind 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.359 of figure out. Okay, if he goes there, what's it mean? 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.600 How long is he going to go there for? Would 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.160 they still take a quarterback in the draft? You know, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.320 so there's a lot of different things in there. Cam Ward, 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.080 it feels like he has cemented himself as the number 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.960 one overall pick. I'm guessing Tennessee does take him. I 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.359 thought the Giants would try to move up. Cleveland probably 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.839 doesn't want to move up. They'll be fine at too. 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.720 They need help, and you could get Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.240 and if you truly loved Shudoor Sanders, you take him. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.959 But you start to look at these quarterbacks and we 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.960 pump them up because they're the next wave of quarterbacks. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.720 And I was curious when we had Matt Miller, the 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.120 great draft expert for the Mothership on recently, I said, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:19.119 where would cam Ward be with last year's quarterback clans? 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:25.080 If we were talking about last year's drafts, cam Ward 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.520 would have been the sixth or seventh guy drafted, probably 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.679 at quarterback, not overall at quarterback. And that might still 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.800 make you a top ten pick, right because those guys 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:34.920 flew up the board last year. But I do think 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.320 he's being elevated. It is interesting both quarterbacks Sanders and Ward, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.280 they have some bad habits that are going to need 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.080 coached out of them. Cam Ward's kind of get dismissed 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:45.680 because he has a strong arm. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.040 So that's Matt Miller, draft analyst for the Mothership of 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.640 where these quarterbacks would be. I think that's the general 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.960 consensus is cam Ward would be after bo Nicks. JJ 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.200 McCarthy is still, you know, front and center for the 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.840 Minnesota Vikings, and he was asked one whether or not 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.640 he's the starting quarterback in Minnesota. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.520 We as a fan base or even media found out, like, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.320 you're the guy, the the guy recently? 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.520 When did you know? When did they tell you or 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.599 when does that message to you? 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.880 They haven't told men. I'm happy they didn't because I 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:23.320 try to earn it every single day, and I never 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.640 want that to be given to me, and it's such 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.279 a privileged and opportunity to give that give me that chance, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.640 and I'm just going to make the most of it 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.400 every single day. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:31.960 All right. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.800 That's with Kay Adams up in Adams JJ McCarthy. Look, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.920 it might be fake humility, but it's going over well 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.080 in Minnesota. So you're looking at Aaron Rodgers and saying, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:44.800 I guess it's Pittsburgh. When is it going to be Pittsburgh? 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.080 And what do they do in the draft, because I 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:48.680 don't know if you say, hey, we're going to bring 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.600 in Aaron, but by the way, we're going to use 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:52.760 our first round. You imagine if they use a first 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.279 round draft pick, I think the twenty first overall pick 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.760 on Jackson dark So he would be with a team 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.720 that uses their first round pick on another quarterback. Now 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.479 do I think it makes sense for Pittsburgh If you 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:09.039 really think Jackson Dart can play, then it makes sense. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.640 I didn't know it if it made sense in Green 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.760 Bay at the time, I didn't think it made sense 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.640 because Aaron was playing well. He went on his revenge tour. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.599 You've never gotten in a wide receiver in the first round, 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:26.159 and now did it turn out to be the correct call? Yes, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.560 Green Bay makes a lot of correct calls. But at 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.800 the time I thought, and even when we had Rogers 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.440 on after the draft, I think that's when he decided 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.640 that he was going to have a larger glass at tequila. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.280 After he realized that Jordan Love the Packers have selected 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:44.800 quarterback Jordan Love, give me a little bit more tequila 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:45.080 in there? 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:45.600 All right? 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.920 Poll question? By the way, good morning. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.279 If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner, we say 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.400 good morning to our radio affiliates. What's the poll question 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.600 for hour two? I can't believe there's this. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:01.640 Much support for Jameis Winston, but that better pregame speech 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.040 guy on the Giants right now, Jameis Winston still has 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.760 ninety percent of that vote. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.159 Yeah, odd that we came up with that, But we 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.440 did think about who's going to motivate you in that 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.760 Giants locker room when you get ready to go out 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.360 and face the Eagles. Is it Jamis Winston or Russell Wilson. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.640 Let's ride p giant. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:20.839 We're putting up there right now. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.359 Question Paully sent over if you could put one into 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.200 place A hard salary cap and baseball or a return 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.480 to the old transfer system in college sports. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.240 M Well, it's a little heavy. That's just what we do. 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:39.240 Yeah, un exactly lighthearted sports radio conversation. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.440 I went our one. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.800 You can't get much more lighthearted than Jamis Winston v. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.400 Russell Wilson. I mean, so Russ goes to the Giants. 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.919 You know, the Patriots got Stefan Diggs, which is the 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:55.400 Patriots have had a sneaky good offseason. They have the 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.800 fourth pick in the draft. Worst case scenario, they end 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.360 up with Travis Hunter Abdul Carter. That's not a bad 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.880 consolation prize. You feel like you do have your quarterback. 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.560 They had a whole lot of money to spend. They 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.400 had salary cap money, and Drake may I thought, did 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.840 a for a team that had nothing on offense. He 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.760 made something with that team and they have added some 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:25.360 pieces offensive lineman, defensive lineman. Now you have the fourth 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.680 pick in the draft. Stefan Diggs was on his way 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.320 to the Hall of Fame. He may still be on 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.080 his way to the Hall of Fame. But I just 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.840 wonder about you know, when you he wasn't healthy, got 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.160 banged up in Houston. You know whatever happened in Buffalo 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.240 where you know he ended up in Houston. Now you 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:50.600 end up in New England, still coming off surgery. But 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.760 if you look at what he did in Buffalo, here's 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:59.080 the most one hundred plus catch seasons in the first 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:03.120 nine years of a career. Antonio Brown in six of 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:07.960 his first nine years had over one hundred catches with Pittsburgh. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.000 Stefan Diggs has had five, Brandon Marshall had five, Wes 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.800 Welker had five, DeVante Adams for DeAndre Hopkins four, Marvin 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.840 Harrison four and Keenan Allen four. 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.920 Stead of the day, stead of the day, that's stat 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.720 of the day. Stat of the day. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.600 Here comes that what stat. 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:30.080 Of the Day? 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.680 Brought to you by Panedi America. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.160 The official trading cards of the DP show Antonio Brown 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.120 was going to the Hall of Fame. I don't think 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.280 anybody had more catches over a five year window than 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.719 he did. But he had six seasons. And look, I 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:53.400 think when he got knocked out concussed by Vontez perfect, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:58.160 I think it seemed to change him. And I think 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.480 we've seen and Tonio Brown is not a normal person. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.720 I don't know what that hit did to him. In 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.880 my opinion, I always thought it just he seemed different 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:09.520 after that. 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.120 But I didn't know him. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.320 I think we've had him on once or twice, maybe 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:19.760 at the Super Bowl one time. Charismatic dude. But times 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.960 have changed though. You know when he freaked out, you know, 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.679 left the building during a game. Stefan Diggs is you know, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.360 he was in Minnesota. He wanted to have and get paid, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 have his moment, got it in Buffalo, and then all 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.560 of a sudden, Buffalo seemed to be better, you know, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.920 by you know, getting rid of Stefan Diggs. It's hard 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.600 to say that about a Hall of Fame where you go, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.839 you know, the team got better because they got rid 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.400 of a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver. I don't 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.760 know if any of these receivers are going to the 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:54.320 Hall of Fame. Antonio Brown, Stefan Diggs, Brandon Marshall, Wes Wilker, 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.800 DeVante Adams is probably going to the Hall of Fame. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.920 DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Harrison is already a Hall of Famer. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:09.600 I don't know if catches matter, Yeah, but I haven't 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.880 been in the voting room or Peter King's the only 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.280 one I've really talked about what goes on in there 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.280 and what they factor in, and I don't know if 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.120 it's fluid when they start to look at Hall of famers. 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.040 Are you looking at the same thing now with wide 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.040 receivers as you did five years ago? What about ten 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.320 years ago? I remember when it was man, if you 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.760 get to a thousand catches, it was like ten thousand 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:36.640 yards for a running back. I don't think it's the 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:40.240 case in either situation. Now are we going to have? 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.839 How many running backs? Are Christian McCaffrey's not going to 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:49.199 the Hall of Fame, he said, I don't think so. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:54.440 Dereck Henry going to the Hall of Fame. I don't 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.080 know if there's any other running back that is playing now, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.400 Like Saquon Barkley need to have three or four more 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.520 great seasons, but he certainly got back on track in 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.040 a big way. And you're playing in Philadelphia behind that 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.760 offensive line with all those weapons. He could end up, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.280 you know, four or five fifteen hundred yard seasons, win 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.559 a Super Bowl two thousand yards, then you'd be a 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.040 Hall of Famer. But yeah, I start to look at 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.840 these numbers and you go, I don't know what matters anymore, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.679 because for a long long time, it felt like the 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.920 running game was the short passing game, that we don't 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.000 need a running back, we just need a running back 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.280 who can block and also catch passes. Now, all of 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.240 a sudden, we got a couple of running backs who 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.320 were getting fifteen, eighteen, two thousand yards, and now it's 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.000 kind of back in vogue, and Ashton Genty could be 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.800 one of those running backs who comes in and plays 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.520 right away. When you get a comp of Emmitt Smith 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.400 by one draft analyst, So when somebody says Ashton Genty, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.360 they go, Emmitt Smith with speed. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.440 Whoh I draft him? 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.079 Now? I voted for him for the Heisman, but you 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.840 can't go wrong with who won. But in my mind, 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.840 Ashton gent what he did? You know, he led his 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:20.160 team then you know, ended up finished runner up and 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.439 he'll probably be the seventh pick overall. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.959 Yeah, Pauline, Yeah, If you look at the all time 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.319 rushing leaders, active players on the list are Derrick Henry, Ezekiel. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.839 Elliott's got nine thousand yards, but he's it was all 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:32.400 done in his. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.160 First four years. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:33.760 Yeah he's not. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:34.440 Nope. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.960 Joe Mixon is an all purpose back Saquan's at seven 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.640 thousand yards, but he's more all purpose yardage. Aaron Jones, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.679 Nick Chubb, Josh Jacobs is having. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.240 A very good career. Yeah, it's early. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.439 Going back to Antonio Brown, he had a six year 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.280 window where he had seven hundred catches in six years, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.520 all made the Pro Bowl every single time, and had 0:12:55.080 --> 0:13:00.079 four First team All pros. If he didn't implode and 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.920 left the sport due to injury, would he get the 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:04.280 Hall of Fame Hall pass? 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.360 Well, let's say he had seven years that he played 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:14.600 in the NFL, or even six. You know, we do 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.760 have precedent here. You have Terrell Davis. Now we would 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.920 always bring up Gail Sears, but Terrell Davis's modern day. 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.280 You know, injury cut short his career. If Antonio Brown 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.520 had an injury that cut short his career, then maybe 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.440 you're not supposed to factor in anything other than what 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.440 you do on the football field. The voters are told 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.520 that other sports they do factor in who you are, 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.920 But I also have to factor in how you were 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.720 as a teammate. That's the only other aspect with this 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.400 that I can look at your performance. I also have 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.560 to look at you give and then you take away 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.319 and that's going to hurt him. It's like Tara Owens 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.840 to me, was a first ballot Hall of Famer, but 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:57.120 he didn't get in first ballot. 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:58.040 I don't think. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:00.800 What second or third time. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:05.480 Mar Michael Irvin, you know, to me, first maun Hall 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:10.080 of Famer, but off the field, and they're not supposed 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:10.920 to be factoring that in. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.000 Will they factor that in with Antonio Brown? 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:13.520 They will? 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.600 And not that Stefan Diggs is in the Antonio Brown 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:21.000 category of disruptive. But it didn't go well in Buffalo 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:25.440 at the end. I mean, Houston just didn't work out. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.360 You thought with you know, those two young receivers there 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.360 and you bring in Stephan Diggs with that quarterback and wow, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.240 all right, you guys can challenge for the AFC title. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.160 Yes, Marvin, Yeah, And I think Stephan Diggs might be 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:40.840 in the Tiki Barber category. Say, if the Buffalo Bills 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.600 win a Super Bowl and they win without him, that's 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:46.080 gonna hurt his chances. I think that's what hurts Tiki Barbie. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:47.600 If he stays another year and they win a Super 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.840 Bowl with him as a big contributor, I think his 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.120 Hall of Fame case is way stronger than it is now. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.360 Look at that, Marvin is hijacking Paul's Tiki Barber. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:01.880 I've owned that for a decade. At the end, Tiki 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.920 Barber was as good as any running back. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:04.560 But I think I. 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:05.000 Got the point. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.640 Mark, Yeah, easy, he got easy. You're piling on, piling on. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.320 I want to get some eighty five bears talking them. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:12.960 Mark, pauliar Dan is the great. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:17.520 Paulie thinks more highly of Tiki Barber's Hall of Fame 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.120 chances than Tiki Barber does. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:19.480 I think. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.280 I mean, like, what do you think, Tikki? I don't know, Paulie, 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:23.800 what do you think? 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:23.960 Oh? 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.600 Yeah, do you know what he did in the last 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:30.840 five years and fifteen hundred number of catchers. There's nobody 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.040 else in America who talks about Tiki Barber's career. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.480 Maybe for a reason, we. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.920 Can't even get Tiki Barber on to talk about Tiki 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.000 Barber's career. He's probably like, no, I don't want to 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:45.640 do that. All right, let me take a break, all right, Ernie, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.760 I gotta clean up my act. I got a professional 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.200 broadcaster here coming up. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:51.600 That's my hair. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:51.840 Look. 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.200 Shouldn't have worn this sweatshirt with Ernie'll probably have a 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.880 bow tie on, you know, be all professorial. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.840 Oh oh, look at that Ernesto. He looks sloppy, just 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:05.280 like me. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.840 Yes, I love it all right, we'll take a break 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.640 the great Ernie Johnson, Well Jonas coming up next here, 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.840 Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.680 talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.800 at foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.000 Search FSR to listen live. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.520 Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together We're 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.480 Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.040 You could catch us weekdays from five to seven pm 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.880 Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.600 of course the iHeartRadio app. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.520 Why should you listen to Covino and Rich. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:42.320 We talk about everything life, sports, relationships, what's going on 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:42.800 in the world. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.480 We have a lot of fun talking about the stories 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.280 behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.360 stories that well other shows don't seem to have the 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:51.200 time to discuss. 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:52.880 And the fact that we've been friends for the last 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.800 twenty years and still work together. I mean that says something, right, 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.480 So check us out. We like to get you involved too. 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.520 Take your phone calls chop it up as they say. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.440 I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:04.879 maybe the. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.200 Most interactive show on planetar. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.080 Be sure to check out Cavino and Rich live on 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.600 Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app from five to 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.280 seven pm Eastern two to four Pacific, And if you 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.520 miss any of the live show, just search Covino on 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.439 Rich wherever you get your podcast, and of course on 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:18.160 social media. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.080 That's Covino and Rich. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:27.160 Coming up in twenty minutes. Synchronize our watchers. We play 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.399 in or out. You're either in or out. More phone 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.960 calls coming up. He's a busy man, He's a Hall 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.280 of Famer. He wins Sports emmyses. Ernie Johnson Junior, the 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.000 third who joins us on the program. Great to have 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:40.760 you back, Ernie. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:41.199 How are you? 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:44.920 If I had a tail, it'd be Wagon Day. 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:45.600 I like it. 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:46.600 I like it. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.560 You know, when you look at the different jobs that 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.320 you have now you still get to work with Chuck, 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.520 but when you do March maddness, compare that to working 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:57.920 the NBA show. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:06.840 Think the biggest difference is Clark Kellogg, who is He's 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.000 so tied into the college game. He's a guy you 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:13.479 just lean on like crazy because for us, you know, 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.320 it's we pay attention to the college game, but our 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:20.879 focus is the NBA. So you really need to have 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.960 a guy like Clark or Seth Davis in the Atlanta 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.600 studio or Jay Wright somebody like that. So that's been 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.840 the biggest difference. But I think just in the terms 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:36.359 of the vibe and how we do the show, I 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:41.160 think it took a little while, but you know, the CBS, 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.119 with their you know, with the way they do things, 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.560 they kind of said, Okay, yeah, you guys can you 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.720 guys can do this. You know, you guys can be 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.560 your NBA kind of guys and do your show that way. 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.320 And that started, I mean the first year, you know, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.399 they wanted the guys in for a for a production 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.480 meeting two hours before we went on the air, and 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:08.960 Chucks hadvice that's that's a hard no. And so so 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.800 once we got through that adjustment period that you know, 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.240 we pretty much we pretty much do our. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.040 Thing, but you have situations and you had it recently 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.520 with Charles that he might not be watching what he's 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.760 supposed to watch, and then you have to correct him. 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.119 I don't know how college basketball fans react to that, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.240 whereas NBA fans like, we kind of expect Chuck to 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.840 go this game sucks, but with college basketball march madness 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:37.760 can't exactly get away with that. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.280 Oh we're able to get away with it because we 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.080 still had Kenny and Clark there who could cover that game. 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.600 It's not like, not like we were going to ignore it, 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.240 but it was. What was funny is that he looked 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.639 down like he was going to really say something, like 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.720 he had made a couple of notes and then realized 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.200 he hadn't watched any of it. It's like it was 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.560 like a couple of years ago. Chuck has always taken 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:07.960 great bride and his Oscar picks and says, you know, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.359 he never misses Juan And so we were talking about 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.000 Best Picture, and nineteen eighteen was up for Best Picture, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.399 and so we're talking about it, and he says, I 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.520 think the best picture is going to be nineteen eighteen. 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.320 I said, well, tell me about it. He said, we 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.840