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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.

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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, I'm Tony Peterson and this is the Wire

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Speaker 2: to Hunt Foundation's podcast, which has brought to you by

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Speaker 2: First Light. Today's episode is all about becoming proficient at

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Speaker 2: building natural ground blinds for all types of critters. When

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Speaker 2: I sit in my basement, which is, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of where all of my trophies have come to find

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Speaker 2: a home, since my wife doesn't want them scattered throughout

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Speaker 2: the house, you know, unlike all the dumb wall art

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Speaker 2: she buys up those stupid stores she likes. I can

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Speaker 2: easily look at white tail racks and meal deer racks

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Speaker 2: and elk racks and turkey beards and antelope horns and

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Speaker 2: think about how I ended up in pretty close proximity

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Speaker 2: to all those critters. I'd say probably like thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of them happened to be shot from the ground out

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Speaker 2: of some type of natural ground blind. I've talked pretty

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Speaker 2: extensively about how to set up stands and hubstyle ground blinds.

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Speaker 2: But I think learning to blend into the vegetation that's

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Speaker 2: available to you is a skill that just fills tags.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I'm going to talk about today. If

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Speaker 2: you were to take a look at one of those

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Speaker 2: Kardashian ladies out there, the ones who say things like

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Speaker 2: ew Chloe, you'd see some serious surface level beauty, you know,

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Speaker 2: flawless looking skin, perfect hair, bodies that look like they

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Speaker 2: were sculpted to dang near perfection. A passing glance at

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Speaker 2: any one of those ladies would reveal what looks like

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Speaker 2: some real beauty. Of course, we all know that there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of bullshit tied up into their appearances. For example,

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Speaker 2: they probably lean pretty heavy on the filters for their

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Speaker 2: social media posts clean up their image. Hell, they probably

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Speaker 2: employ full time photoshop experts to make them look super

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Speaker 2: good when they are just casually posing at some random

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Speaker 2: beach in the perfect evening light. If you were to

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Speaker 2: dig a little deeper, and I can't prove this, so

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Speaker 2: it's just my opinions, so don't sue me, Kim, you

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Speaker 2: might find out that they've had some cosmetic surgery. I know, shocking, right,

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Speaker 2: I'd bet a dozen of my favorite arrows that there

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Speaker 2: have been a few, I don't know, nose jobs, Brazilian

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Speaker 2: butt lifts, and a bunch of other surgeries that the

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Speaker 2: one percenters pay for to look like one percenters. You

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Speaker 2: might look at them in passing, as I said, and think, gosh,

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Speaker 2: they sure are a genetically gifted bunch, But the truth

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Speaker 2: is there's a hell of a lot of curation to

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Speaker 2: their appearance. What you see is it what you'd actually

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Speaker 2: get if they'd agree to be around a poor loser

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Speaker 2: like you, which they absolutely would not do. You know what?

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Speaker 2: This is kind of like golf. I'm so sorry. Hunting

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Speaker 2: content the twenty one minute show on the Sportsman's channel

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Speaker 2: that shows some face painted dork passing up one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty inch bucks all day long to eventually shoot

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Speaker 2: a one sixty you know, probably a touch too far back.

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Speaker 2: That's the hunting version of the Kardashians. Not all shows,

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Speaker 2: of course, but a lot of them, because those deer

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Speaker 2: in those spots are carefully curated to come together in

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Speaker 2: a way that allows for easy filming. You know how

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Speaker 2: it goes. There's always the perfect tree and the perfect access,

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Speaker 2: and the bucks rarely get downwind and the doughs never

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Speaker 2: look up, and it's all hunky freaking dory. But that's

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Speaker 2: not any more real than the aesthetics of a reality

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Speaker 2: TV family that it's famous for. Well some stuff. The

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Speaker 2: truth is out there where you hunt. The perfect spot

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Speaker 2: is pretty hard to come by. Sure, you probably have

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Speaker 2: probably have a few spots with a perfect clumped bass

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Speaker 2: trees that allows you to work on your Michael Jackson

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Speaker 2: perfect setup does exist, it's just mostly created when you

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Speaker 2: find it naturally. It's like a whole new level is unlocked,

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Speaker 2: and you should enjoy it while you can. Because mother

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Speaker 2: Nature is always in flux, and for some reason, the

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Speaker 2: on a time scale that doesn't extend indefinitely into the future.

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Speaker 2: The thing is a lot of the best spots I

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Speaker 2: the reasons the popularity of climbing tree stands has gone

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Speaker 2: while ago. Now, you weren't allowed to buy a hunting

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Speaker 2: climbing stands were great for straight trees with no limbs,

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Speaker 2: limbs growing and then situate them about twenty yards down

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Speaker 2: into the best deer trails. Now, I killed a fair

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Speaker 2: and it led me right into the world of lightweight

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Speaker 2: of lightweight stands and sticks and sometimes using a saddle.

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Speaker 2: But even those, you know, even the best saddle set

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Speaker 2: you hunt in an area that is low on trees,

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Speaker 2: but also a few good spots that don't offer up

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Speaker 2: the best tree stand options. You can put out a

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Speaker 2: hubstyle blind, of course, but you can also go on naturrel.

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Speaker 2: This is a better option than most people think, especially

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Speaker 2: if you're on private land. You know where you can

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Speaker 2: cut some trees and trim some stuff and stack some

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Speaker 2: And honestly, this isn't limited to white tails either. A

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Speaker 2: bull elk might come in is a good strategy too.

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Speaker 2: It works for western critters, it works for turkeys. But

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Speaker 2: there is an art to it. To understand that, let

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Speaker 2: me first say what most people do wrong with natural blinds.

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Speaker 2: They want to be comfortable and they want great visibility.

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Speaker 2: Those are like one in one a right there. But

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Speaker 2: that's wrong. We do this with tree stands and hubstyle

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Speaker 2: close to the action because we just can't help ourselves. Instead,

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Speaker 2: think about natural blinds as being like a really good

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Speaker 2: place to truly hide, where approaching critters won't know you're

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Speaker 2: there until it's too late, if they ever figure it

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Speaker 2: out at all. To frame this up, consider this, how

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Speaker 2: was obviously brought in there to sit on so somebody

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Speaker 2: could see better. The same goes for blind chairs. We

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Speaker 2: into seeing danger that isn't moving, you're at a huge disadvantage.

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Speaker 2: The bigger you allow yourself to be. Sitting on a

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Speaker 2: They're going to see you. The difference between that and

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Speaker 2: and directly in line with where your quarry will probably look.

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Speaker 2: You can mitigate some of this by brushing things in

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Speaker 2: for most hunters to do. This is just like hanging

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Speaker 2: It's so easy to overdo it when you want to

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Speaker 2: The dance between being able to get a critter within

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Speaker 2: You need them in range first, and the best way

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Speaker 2: to do that is to hunt a good spot and

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Speaker 2: not get busted. Simple, right, But it's not. You have

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Speaker 2: where critters will walk through you have to believe it'll happen,

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Speaker 2: so you don't constantly put yourself into a position to

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Speaker 2: This isn't that easy, but some success from these setups

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Speaker 2: dad bought this tree seat thing that was just a

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Speaker 2: small cushioned seat that strapped to a tree trunk. It

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Speaker 2: setting up where you expect the deer to come from

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Speaker 2: where they're going to see you. Setting up on the

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Speaker 2: ground requires the same consideration. If you can hide behind

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Speaker 2: shouldn't you. After all, I haven't met a critter yet

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Speaker 2: it's possible, but it's not always possible. Sometimes you have

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Speaker 2: some random shrubs or brush or deadfalls. Here's the key

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Speaker 2: to this stuff. No matter whether you're hunting antelope or turkeys,

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Speaker 2: so important because it allows you the opportunity to break

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Speaker 2: up the human form. This is also the secret sauce

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Speaker 2: to so many different camel patterns. It isn't necessarily always

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Speaker 2: but instead to just make your human form look less

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Speaker 2: well humany humanish human like here we go. It's also

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Speaker 2: a good idea to think about sunlight and shadows when

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Speaker 2: you're setting up a natural blind Shadows are your friend

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Speaker 2: natural ground blind forces critters to look through or passed you.

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Speaker 2: You can do the best brushing in job in the world,

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Speaker 2: because an awful lot of critters spend their time and

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Speaker 2: places that aren't conducive to saddle and trees stand setups.

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Speaker 2: They just aren't. And the more you can and adapt

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Speaker 2: like they couldn't quite believe it, and they let me

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the least limiting style of hunting, which

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Speaker 2: your quarry. I promise you that just about anywhere you hunt,

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Speaker 2: But you have to do your part. Have to think

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Speaker 2: don't do this or they don't do it right. Don't

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Speaker 2: be those people. That's it for this week, my friends.

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