1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: A hi family drama queens here. As you know, our 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: union SAGAFTRA is on strike now. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: We are no strangers to pushing back against imbalances and 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: abuses of power. It is the very basis of our 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: podcast here, so we're reclaiming a really pivotal chapter in 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: our lives. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 3: We are in full support of the strike as well 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: as the writer's strike, and we've checked in personally with 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 3: multiple representatives and have had our teams do the same 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: so that we maintain an active line of communication. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Right now, we have been given the greenlight to honor 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: our iHeart contract, but we are taking this walk down 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: memory lane in an old school way and encourage you 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: to do the same. 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: Bust out those DVD's, okay. 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: We've signed thousands of box sets, so we know you 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: have them, get together with friends and have watched parties 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: like we did back in the day. 19 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: This community has always been supportive and proactive whenever we've 20 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: been in a tough spot, and this moment is no exception. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: We are grateful to you and encourage all of you 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: to post your pictures with your box set and use 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: those hashtags SAG after Strong and w g A Strong 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: and We're gonna post your pictures in our feed let 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: folks know. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: That you support the artists who bring you your favorite 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: shows like One Tree Hill, And if you're able, please 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: donate to the Entertainment Community Fund. Our fans are the 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: very best fans, So thank you, and thank you to 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 3: our reps at sag AFTRA for helping us navigate this 31 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: complicated moment. We are so proud to be union members. 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Now onto the drama. 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: First of all, you don't know. 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: All about that high school drama, Girl Drama girl, all 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: about them high school queens. 36 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride. 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: And our comic girl shared for the right teams. 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 4: Drama Queens, my cough girl, fashion mich your tough girl, 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: you could. 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 5: Sit with us, Girl Drama, Queens Drama, queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 5: Queens Drama, Queens. 42 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Drama, Queens. Hello, how was it to watch this on 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: DVD this week? 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed by the way. There's something I got like 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: a little spicy about it. I was like, well, am 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: I in my petty era because we obviously are reclaiming 47 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: our territory with this show, and we've clued in our 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: listeners about how crazy current events are in our industry 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: and how artists and creators really get boned and it's 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: not okay. And it's felt so good to take our 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: show back on this podcast. And then we got our 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: DVDs and I was like, damn the man, the streamers, 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this out and watch it on a 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: little plastic disc. And it made me feel like we 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: were doing something a little sparkly. 56 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: When you said, damn the man. Fyi Empire Records, where 57 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: that movie is quoted from, was shot in Wilmington, Like 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: we're on those same main drag that Karen's Cafe existed. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: And I love that notion. 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 6: Of like save save, like DVDs, save CDs, Like we 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 6: had these tangible things that were eradicated by technology. 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: And it's really sad because so many shows that were 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: only being put on streamers have now been erased and 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: were never put out on DVDs, so there's no way 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: to watch those. So I appreciate that our show is 66 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: old enough that these still exist. 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: I know. 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: And my son thought it was so cool in retro, 69 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: like he's got a record player. He is Peyton Sawyer, right, 70 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: and so he sees the DVD player and it's like, 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: whoa can I can I have that when you're done 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: with it, don't stage us. Loved it. I loved it 73 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: because it comes with like the liner notes, and I like, 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I just like tangible things. That's why 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: I like books instead of like a kindle. 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: I also loved like, you know, when we would do 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: events and even still now, like you meet fans at 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: things and then they you know, they do this and 79 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: it's like, hey, Hillary, willis him my DVD? 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: And it's your kidding Will, Right. So before watching the 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: episode I had, I had a moment yesterday. I was 82 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: out with my kids and there were a group of 83 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: other kids that all clearly were cousins and knew each other. 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: And George was trying to infiltrate this group of kids, 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: and one of the dads was really cool. He was like, hey, girls, 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: like this little girl wants to play with you and 87 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: include her. And so these kids are playing together for 88 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: like an hour and a half, two hours, right, and 89 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: all you know, everyone's just kind of sitting around being chill, 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: and then the older of the kids goes off and 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: you hear the mom who I've been talking to off 92 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: and on for the last hour and a half. Yeall, 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 2: Peyton Sawyer get over here, and I'm like, this lady's 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: this lady's absolutely punking me. And then I realized, like 95 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: I have a hat and sunglasses and all of that on, 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: and I'm like, is she making fun of Like I couldn't. 97 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't wrap my head around did you say this 98 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: child was? So it wasn't until Jeff showed up later 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: that they were like, oh my god, we're so impaired. 100 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: But they'd been like so wonderful to my kids, having 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: no idea that I was standing right there. And so 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: I meet this little girl and I'm like, hey, I'm 103 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: Peyton Sawyer too, and she's just like, what in the 104 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: world are you and my mom talking about? And it 105 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: was such a sweet interaction and like such a good girl. 106 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: And I was like, listen, Peyton Sawyer's are tough girls. 107 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: But I love that we work in an industry where 108 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: like your character can have kids named after them, Like, 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: no one is naming their children after the land barons 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: that own the studios and things like that, No, but 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: they they are naming their children after things that are 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: created by writers and there so for anyone out there 113 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: that is named a child after our show. Thank you 114 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: so much. That is like the most flattering thing that 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: you can do. It's so I loved the Payton I 116 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: met yesterday. She was awesome. She sounds like a cool kid, 117 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: She's tough. I loved it, loved it. Good family, well. 118 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: Well, good families, good people. Let's talk about families. Our 119 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: episode this week really revolves around this, and as you 120 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: all have heard us alluding to, we're watching the show 121 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: on DVD because we are not supporting streamers at this time. 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: It's a blast from the past in every way, and 123 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: the family drama is high in this one season five 124 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: episode eleven, You are Gonna Need Someone on your Side, 125 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: aired March eleventh, two thousand and eight. Originally tell the 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: fans what they've won today, Hillary oh Man, I remember 127 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: filming this like it was yes. 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Do you Yeah? On the eve of Lucas and Lindsay's 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: marriage h they conspire to get Nathan and Haley in 130 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: the same room by planning a combined bachelor and bachelorette party. 131 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: Jamie Sweet Jamie tries many attempts to get his mom 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: and dad to make up. At the party, Brook arranges 133 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: a hot blind date for Peyton that's why I remember 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: this so well. 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 7: But the joke is on her, as Owen's chosen mate 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 7: is Chase Brook's former clean teen lover love that they 137 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 7: put I'm so uncomfortable. 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: Rachel returns to Tree Hill, only to be pushed out 139 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 2: by Victoria, which pushes Brooke to her breaking point. Yes, 140 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. This is a family episode. I think 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: we did that really really well. Which family do you 142 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: want to start with? Oh? 143 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: Man, I mean it's it's a bummer that we don't 144 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: have joy this week because our schedules have just been 145 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: so crazy all and she had something come up today. 146 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: But it was such a good episode for Nathan and Haley. Yeah, 147 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: and I kind of want to jump into that dynamic 148 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: right off the bat because I saw it differently at 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: this age than I saw it then. And I loved 150 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: skills in this episode. I loved the dynamic that he 151 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: had really looking out for Jamie. I thought a lot 152 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 3: of it was really great. But I have a little 153 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: bone to pick. They do it and listen. Of course, 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: especially when kids are young and there's tension in a family, 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 3: you have to figure out a way to protect them 156 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: their children. They have these little developing brains. They need 157 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: care and safety, they need to know things are going 158 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: to be okay. And I was a little bugged that 159 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: there was this idea that somehow, in particular, Haley wasn't 160 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: being a good mom because she was and just letting 161 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: this thing roll off her back, this potential infidelity. This 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 3: you know, the woman kissed you and was nude in 163 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 3: front of you and got in the shower with you, 164 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: and clearly something's going on to egg her on. And 165 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: we've watched the something going on for a long time now. 166 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 167 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: At this stage in my life, I was like, I 168 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: don't like that Hailey choosing herself, even if she's going 169 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: to choose to do the work on her marriage, that 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: her needing a moment of space is essentially being convoluted 171 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: with her being a less than mother. 172 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: It really bumped me. I feel exactly the way that 173 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: you felt, because I was like, oh God, this hits 174 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: different as a grown up, because I think when we 175 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: were kids, we all read the script and we were like, oh, man, 176 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: Nathan's really fighting for this, and like Jamie is fighting 177 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: for like everyone is fighting for it except Haley, and 178 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: we knew all the information. We knew that Nathan had 179 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: rebuffed the girl's advances and was in kind of like 180 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: a complicated situation and had tried to be a good 181 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: guy and then get rid of her and all that 182 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Haley doesn't have any of that information. 183 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: All she knows is that this person keeps putting the 184 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: safety of their family in danger over and over and 185 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: over again. And as an adult, it's like yeah. And 186 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: as an adult, there's this moment at the party where 187 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: Jamie is just like, over and over and over again, 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: like Mommy, can we play? Mommy? Can we play? Mommy? 189 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Can we play? Mommy? Can we play? And boy, I 190 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: have been in that boat. And I make a point 191 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: of playing barbies with my daughter at least once a day. 192 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: But if you ask me eight thousand times, I'll lose 193 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: my mind like every other person on the planet, Like, 194 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like that that was vilified. 195 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: I didn't either, and I really could. I could see 196 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: my younger self having this almost like Pollyanna feeling about, 197 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, make it right and do the whatever. But yeah, 198 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: the fact that last week all Nathan said was I 199 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: wasn't even into her, Like, no, you have to sit 200 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: down you have to have a conversation. You got to 201 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: run you got to run through it. You got to, 202 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: you know, talk about why because of how your kid feels. 203 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: You didn't want to make it awkward until it got awkward, 204 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: and then you told her to stop, and you thought 205 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: she would like, you really have to let your partner 206 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: in on reality and care for them. If you don't 207 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: care for each other in the same way, you're never 208 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: gonna make it. And my god, as an adult sitting 209 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: here understanding how complex it is to be in relationships, 210 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, I don't like the way that 211 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: the woman got treated in this whole dynamic because she 212 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: literally is the innocent one here. 213 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, for those of you guys who haven't 214 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: seen the episode, it starts with Nathan sleeping on the 215 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: couch at Lucas and Lindsay's house, and then there's like 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: this very weird kind of reference to like why he's 217 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: not in a bedroom. It's like, oh, I haven't cleared 218 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: out my mom's stuff, so you have to sleep on 219 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: the couch. It was, it was weird, It was very uncomfortable. 220 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: But then Nathan makes a point of saying to Lucas 221 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: while they're playing basketball together. He's like, I got nothing 222 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: going on. I'm sleeping on your couch. I got nothing 223 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 2: going on. And in my head, I'm like, a week 224 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: has passed. We know that. Why hasn't his mother written 225 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: her a letter? Hollo, Why isn't he sat down and said, 226 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: point by point, I know you're mad about this. This 227 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: is the reality of what happened. This is what I 228 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: tried to do. This is what she did. Why hasn't 229 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: there been a restraining order like filed against that girl? Like, 230 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: if I'm him, I go and I file a restraining 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: order just to show my wife, like I don't want 232 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: this around. There is like work that you can do 233 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: over the course of a week, and Nathan instead playing 234 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: in basketball the River cour insane. 235 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: Insane, Yeah it was. It was really no effort on 236 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: his part. And then she gets you know, she kind 237 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: of gets her ass handed to her a little bit. 238 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: I will say, you know, divesting from how I feel 239 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: about the way the story was carried out. God Skills 240 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: was so good in that scene. Antoine delivered that so beautifully. 241 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: I was like, give that man a show immediately. I 242 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: guess when the strike is over and nobody's working but god, 243 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: he was so great, and I loved the points he 244 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: made about, you know, the way he's showing up for 245 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: this kid that he cares about, and how potentially the 246 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: drama between the adults is making them forget a little bit. 247 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: But I was like, she hasn't forgotten. All she's done 248 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: this year is fight for this family. 249 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: Mm hmm and ugh. 250 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: It bugged me. He was beautiful, but it bugged me. 251 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he took what he was given, and I wish 252 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: he would have had a similar conversation with Nathan where 253 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: he was like, exactly, dude, do the work. Do the work. 254 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: We're all here to distract your kid while you're sorting 255 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: it out. All your friends love you, we will take 256 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: care of Jamie. But like, do the work. 257 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: You gotta do the work. 258 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Why didn't they have that. 259 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: Conversation with him. I don't know, But this is what 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, is I see it now? And look, it's 261 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: no secret that we had issues with the way that 262 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: many of the writers on our show treated women on 263 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: our show. But God, that it's only her who gets 264 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: the kind of end of the stick over and over 265 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: again doesn't feel good, especially when they've grown Nathan into 266 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: this character who really does show up for people and 267 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: who will have hard conversations and who will you know, 268 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: really put himself on the line. And all that he 269 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: said is I'm not even into her, Like I just can't. 270 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: It's like he's it's like he's fifteen again. 271 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: Didn't he write Dan Scott a letter in prison? He 272 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: went out and bought stamps to send Dan Scott a 273 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: letter and send him his child's photo. He can't write 274 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: his wife a letter and be like, baby, come on, baby, uh, 275 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: if there are boys listening, if we're mad at you, 276 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: write us a letter, like, just like, make it really 277 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: clean and focused to the point, and just explain yourself 278 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: so that I can pick it apart. 279 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: I want to be able to reread it. Yeah, points 280 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: made come up with counterpoints. 281 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: I do love that both Nathan and Haley totally know 282 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: what Lucas and Lindsay are up to in this episode. 283 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, we absolutely knew that you guys were padding. 284 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: It's the least subtle set up ever ever. Also, why 285 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: is the party at that happening? Like, girl, that's it's 286 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: if it were at a neutral location. And Haley came 287 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: in and Nathan came in and the setup happened on 288 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: like neutral turf, makes sense. But she's the one that 289 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: had to clean the whole house before the party happened. 290 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: You know, she's gonna be the one cleaning up all 291 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: the empty cups and like doing all the dirty work after, 292 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: and so she's expected to do the emotional labor and 293 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: the physical labor. It's sucky. Hello, Yeah, she just wants 294 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: to like go to bed and watch Dateline and drink 295 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: a glass of wine. Leave that woman alone, Give. 296 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: Her a glass of red God and some socks. Let 297 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: her go, I will say, because there was obviously no 298 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: pay off with that surprise, because everybody knew what was 299 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: going on. I Hillary, I forgot. I did, but this 300 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: was the episode that Stephen came back. I forgot about 301 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 3: the chase. I had no idea. I was like, oh, 302 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: one's gonna have a friend, Peyte's gonna get set up. 303 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: And the door opened and I gasped on camera. 304 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: And in his house, I went I loved it, because 305 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: I loved it. I was with my boyfriend for the 306 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: first five seasons of One Tree Hill, and when we 307 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: broke up, the first thing I did was go home 308 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: and like kiss anyone from high school that I had 309 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: an outstanding crush on. It was like you line up, 310 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: come here, like this needs to happen. And so I 311 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: loved the Chase showed up because there was unfinished business there. 312 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: He was such a good guy in season four, like 313 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: I loved him in season four standing up for Brook, 314 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: like sticking with her. 315 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 3: He really did evolve into such a special guy. Yeah, 316 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: and Steven is just so sweet and he's so enjoyable 317 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 3: to watch, and it was it was fun to have 318 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: him back and fun to have that scene with the 319 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 3: four of us in the car where Owen's putting it 320 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: all together. 321 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: That scene was so fun. It was so fun because 322 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: it was so real, Like, yeah, I know that we've 323 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: walked through these kinds of points before where we're like, hey, 324 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 2: remember that thing that I told you about? Right right? 325 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: The realization on everyone's face is so fun. And I 326 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: love that they immediately felt like friends, Like it didn't 327 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: It was not hard to imagine that they'd been bros 328 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: for like years. How do we think those two men? 329 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: It's so weird, But you know, part of me is like, well, 330 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: was Chase bartending or you know, like are they college friends? 331 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 332 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: I like to imagine that they met like in one 333 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: of those dorky adult kickball leagues, and they don't choke. 334 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: I just I just almost made my smoothie right out 335 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: of my nose. 336 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: No, but you know what I mean. Oh my god, 337 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: those were such a big deal in the early two thousands, 338 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 2: Like everybody was in a I'm in a rec league 339 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: kickball club, or we had remember our crew was on 340 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: a dodgeball league and we would like play competitively. 341 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I really like. I like when 342 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: I'm driving through the city at night and I see 343 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 3: like a soccer league, like an amateur soccer league. I'm 344 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: always like, I want to pull over and go play 345 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: with those people. 346 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are they about? I passed little league fields 347 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: with Gus yesterday. Gus was like, can we just come 348 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: and watch a game? Like there's something kind of voyeuristic 349 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: about watching people revert back to childhood and just be 350 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: their most primal selves. Yeah, that's how I want to believe. 351 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 2: Chase and Owen know each other. 352 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: And there's a fun dynamic at work in this episode 353 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: that feels like that. Because Brooke gets pulled back to 354 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 3: high school, Peyton is being pulled back to this high 355 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: school love with Lucas, you know, even Chase asking you 356 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: you know about him and like do you still love him? 357 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: And then he kisses you. It's like it's all it 358 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: all feels like high school. 359 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Haley and Nathan too, I mean they go 360 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: all the way back to like I shouldn't have tried 361 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: to change you. Oh my god, Like if she had 362 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: had that realization junior year in high school of maybe 363 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: trying to change someone isn't the best deal. Like this 364 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: whole show doesn't happen, the whole thing. I love a 365 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: walk down memory lane and the idea that, like the 366 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: idea that you can go back home and you can 367 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: engage with the people who have known you forever, and 368 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: you can develop new feelings for old people. 369 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: You know. 370 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: I I can only speak from experience, but I love 371 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: staying in touch with my friends from high school. And 372 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 2: I love when they're like all married to each other. 373 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: And I love when they're like our kids are old 374 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: enough now that they also hang out and I'm like, 375 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: oh my god, if there's another generation of like perfew 376 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: high school kids kissing each other, I am just going 377 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: to be so happy, like it just yeah. The crossover 378 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,479 Speaker 2: between fact and fiction is delicious. No. Haley saying that 379 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have tried to change you was my favorite 380 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: part of the episode because that felt the most real 381 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: and the most grounded because she really did. She worked 382 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 2: on that dude for years. Remember he was like watching 383 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: porn on the internet when they were like first together 384 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: and Peyton videos and hooking up with her sister. He's 385 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 2: doing crazy stuff. Yeah, I get it. 386 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 3: You're right. I think that was my favorite line in 387 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: the episode two. And it is the reality of that, 388 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: the sort of graveness of saying everything in such a 389 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: simple sentence. I love you and I'm not going to 390 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: do this anymore. I love you, but not enough to 391 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: be tortured in my home. I you know whatever, whatever, 392 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: the sort of energy underneath it, it feels big to 393 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: say I just shouldn't. I shouldn't have done all this work. 394 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: You are who you are and oh man, it really 395 00:22:59,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: that got me. 396 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: And she's like and it's okay, Like go be that guy, 397 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: be the guy that has girls running around naked, Like, 398 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: I just want you to be happy, be free, my friend. 399 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than an apathetic woman. As long as 400 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: a woman still hates you, you've got a chance but 401 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: the second she turns to apathy, you're like. 402 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 3: Oh, oh yeah, apathy is the stage you want to 403 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 3: be in when you realize you're done with something, because 404 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: you go, oh, I'm not affected, I'm just done. 405 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so clear. Maybe that's what I liked so 406 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: much about Joy's performance is that she was just so clear. 407 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 408 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: It was like, look, I see how much work everyone's 409 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: putting into this, Lucas Lindsey change their whole game plan. 410 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: You obviously showed up tonight thinking we were gonna have 411 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: some happy reunion. I'm gonna be polite to you, but no, 412 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: all your friends are in on this, our child is 413 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: in on this. 414 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 8: Feeling very clear, Yeah, it's just brutal. Clarity is such 415 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 8: a gift. And I think, you know what, I think 416 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 8: it's that clarity that feels so real and authentic that 417 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 8: made me feel really irked about the the other stuff 418 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 8: that we were talking about at the beginning of the episode, 419 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 8: because we got honesty about this sort of a situation, 420 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 8: but then we also got this weird glossing over of 421 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 8: it and shame for the woman, and I just went, oh, 422 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,479 Speaker 8: it bogs me because you did part of it so well, 423 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 8: what if the other parts had been done this well, 424 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 8: the only. 425 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: Thing I can think is like, Haley is not a 426 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: pettych like I am, and has it like has it 427 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: amplified this right? Like if it's me, I'm getting all 428 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: my text thread and I'm like, y'all motherfuckers better stand 429 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: by me because you have no idea what he did 430 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: and blah blahlah. This is this this Haley clearly is 431 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: above that and hasn't told all of his boys the 432 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: dumb that he's been doing. And they haven't really asked either. 433 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: It's not like Skills has gone to her and been like, what, 434 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: maybe what's going on? What happened? How can I support you? 435 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: Wait, I'm dying to think about you doing that in 436 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 3: a text thread. I would never I I am at 437 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: a point where like, I mean shit, I think sometimes 438 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: with friends like us, you know where you're at a distance, 439 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: so we catch up like we get on a FaceTime, 440 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: we do it, and so we really dive in. My 441 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: friends at home sometimes are like, you can't tell us 442 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: about things when you've already solved the problem a year 443 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 3: into it, Like you have to, you gotta tell us 444 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: in real time. And I'm like, I don't know how 445 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: that works. 446 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: They want to workshop the problem. 447 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: I'm in my little crabshell, in my little cancer crabshell, 448 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm in here figuring it out, and 449 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 3: I'll come out. I'll come out of the rocks when 450 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm ready. 451 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: No, my trauma response is to turn everything into like 452 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: a narrative. Yeah, let me just tell this story, tell 453 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: you right? 454 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: He did? I love that? 455 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. No. I like to weave a tale because then 456 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of distance. Then it's like softened. 457 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: When you keep something like deep inside in a secret, 458 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: it's like, oh god, this is yeah painful, this is hurty. 459 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: But the second you turn it into a funny anecdote 460 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: over like a drink, it doesn't hurt as much anymore. 461 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: And so Haley could do She should do that. She 462 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: should just go out drinking with everyone. Yeah, and be like, 463 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: let me tell you a tale of your friend Nathan. Yes, 464 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: m she's too classy, what a bum out? 465 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm telling you. I'm here for the Petty era. 466 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 2: I love petty Man, and I never grow out of it. 467 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: I'm that high school again. I just love staying in 468 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: touch and acting like I'm still fifteen. I'm gonna write 469 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: a note and fold it up all cute and tell 470 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: you about all the crazy shit that's going on. 471 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 5: I like that. 472 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 3: You know who is the scariest petty bitch? Victoria? 473 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was. 474 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: Horrifying in this episode. Like I want to know if 475 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: she was okay when we shot this. I feel like 476 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: it would have been so hard for her. 477 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, because we know it's informed by this fierce protection 478 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: of her daughter. Yeah, but there's something darker here that's 479 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: like what happened to her? Yeah, Like who screwed her 480 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: over so bad that she's convinced the same thing is 481 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: going to happen to Brook. 482 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes. Well, and why do you have to win so 483 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: badly that you want to win if it means somebody 484 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 3: winds up overdosing destroying, like you want to push someone 485 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: into self harm to prove a point. It is so 486 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: dark it takes my breath away. 487 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Brooke is doing the same thing that Hayley's 488 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: doing this episode. I really love the parallel of I'm 489 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: in a toxic situation and I might really love this person, 490 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: and I might really want this person's attention, and I 491 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: have enjoyed the good times, but we have reached the 492 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: end of this arrangement, like, yeah, it's heavy, We have 493 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: reached the end of this arrangement. Oh man, can't you 494 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: imagine Nathan and Victoria just drinking together being like, so 495 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: you got the boot too, yep to your arrangement? 496 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: Cool, same, same. 497 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: Same, No. I mean like Victoria was so like like 498 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: mustache twirling evil. This was her Dan Scott moment. It 499 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: was like, I'm going to destroy you at all costs. 500 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: And it made me wonder, like, what did Rachel do? 501 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: What did Rachel do in the year before. We had 502 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: a great moment of mill in this episode informing us like, oh, 503 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: I know Rachel and she describes a person that we 504 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: haven't gotten to see. But girl, what was your what 505 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: was your sense memory? When she said I've had to 506 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: guard the door? I was dying. 507 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: Oh Hillary, it took me right back there. I was like, 508 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: we had some times. 509 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, explain to the folks at home who weren't 510 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: born When Bungalow aid was around. 511 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 3: Bungalow eight was this very cool club in New York. 512 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: You needed a key to get in, or to know 513 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: someone who had one who would bring you it. It opened. 514 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: Essentially it became a big deal in the later seasons 515 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: of Sex and the City, it was like one of 516 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: the clubs Carrie Bradshaw went too, and then we started 517 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: our show, I mean so quickly after and Bungalow eight 518 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: was still very hot and we were going there and 519 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: it was very you know, to be a young twenty 520 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 3: something in New York and be like this is her 521 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: spot and now I'm here. It was naughty and viby 522 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: and really fun. 523 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: It was naughty, you know. There was like celebrity in 524 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: the early two thousands was very different than it is 525 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: now because there was no social media, and the paparazzi 526 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 2: was like, like that was the peak of their power 527 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: because they were the only people that could get kind 528 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: of these candid interactions with famous people. And it was 529 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: the rise of like, you know, socialite culture in New 530 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: York City. And so there were so many of these 531 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: kind of bungalowit places that were velvet rope clubs where 532 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: like you could not get in unless you had some pull. 533 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: And now looking back on it, I'm like, y'all, mother 534 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: firs want me to stand in line for a thing. No, no, no, 535 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: I will go to a dive where I just walk 536 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: in and go straight to the bar. I don't want 537 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 2: to have to be on a clipboard. Don't look for 538 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: my name. But at the time it was serious business 539 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: and the idea that Rachel Rachel of course would be 540 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: a part of that scene, of course so spicy. 541 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: It really tracked Who. 542 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: Do we think Rachel was in the bathroom with. I'm 543 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: so curious if you had to pick two celebrities for 544 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: Rachel to have hung out in the bathroom with. 545 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: It's like, in my head thinking about Rachel as a 546 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: model in New York and the fashion Week scenes there, 547 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: I feel like it would be like a model from 548 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: one of the shows, and then an actor who had 549 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: sat front row, like some handsome guy who was sitting 550 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 3: from a row at Calvin Klein and a Calvin Klein model. 551 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember what a big deal. Like Leonardo DiCaprio 552 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: and Toby maguire and David Blaine their little club was 553 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: because they would always have a corner table in all 554 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: of those kinds of clubs, yep. And I remember being 555 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: told like, don't go near that car, like they are 556 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: just there to pull chicks. And I was like, yeah, 557 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: oh weird, interesting, not my energy. But we know that 558 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: Leo loves models. I'm sure Rachial track she would have 559 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: had a moment at least just like a real flirty 560 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: night with him. 561 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. That actually, I didn't think about how connected those 562 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 3: moments were until you just said that. But that moment 563 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 3: where she hits on mouth, aside from being the most 564 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: ridiculous thing that was written by a man, I could 565 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: just really use the release. I'm like the relief No, 566 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 3: no girl has ever my God, but you know, her 567 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: hitting on him and him having the wherewithal to say, 568 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: you can have anyone you want and anything you want, 569 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: but you don't know that you need to know that. 570 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: It is interesting that he knew to remind her, potentially 571 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: because of what Millicent shared with him, potentially because he 572 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: got he got a window into who Rachel was, you know, 573 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: at her quote unquote height, you know, her prime as 574 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: she might define herself, like her most successful and he's 575 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: just like, none of that matters. Actually, and I thought 576 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 3: that it was really a nice moment. 577 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: There's a discovery process to realizing that none of that 578 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: stuff matters. Because when you are young, everybody wants to 579 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: be invited to the party, of course, right whether you're 580 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: in high school, and there's like the party happening after 581 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: the football game, and like who gets invited becomes like 582 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: a big deal. You go to college, I still. 583 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 3: Want to be invited. I don't want to go, but 584 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: I want to be invited. 585 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: But that's the discovery process. It said, we all want 586 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: to be invited when we're young. Well, most of us 587 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: want to be invited when we're young, and when we 588 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: were young, those velvet rope clubs were like the thing 589 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: to do, and we have gotten to go through the 590 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: natural discovery process of being like, oh, we did it 591 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: enough to realize it wasn't fulfilling, It wasn't that great. 592 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: You know, there were parts of it that were actually 593 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: kind of creepy and weird. Rachel doesn't get to do 594 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 2: that because she's cut off. She's dismissed from the party, 595 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: and she's been dismissed from high school parties on our show. 596 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: She's now being dismissed from the cultural party that is 597 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: New York City it and now she's being dismissed from 598 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: like the one thing she's always been able to do 599 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: is like pull a dude, and how many times can 600 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: you punch a chick? Before she reverts back to her 601 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: bad coping mechanisms. Yeah, I thought for sure she was 602 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: going to take off when Mouth rejected her, and she doesn't. 603 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 2: In this episode, Mouth rejects her and she stays there, 604 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: even after getting a text message from some old party 605 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: buddies like hey, let's get messed up. And I thought 606 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: that was a really important thing to show that she 607 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: took a hit, and she stayed on the couch and 608 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: she just took a nap. And it wasn't until Victoria 609 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: showed up and really pushed and pushed and pushed and 610 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: pushed that she fell apart. Yeah, I don't know. I 611 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: fully expected her to leave when Mouth was like sorry, 612 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: and she did it. 613 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: She did it, and I liked that. I liked her 614 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: saying I'm going to beat this. You see, you see 615 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 3: the effort she's putting in. You see that she wants 616 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 3: to be different. And in a way, I think that's 617 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 3: what Victoria sees too. She can identify it, and she lasers, 618 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: she layser focuses on it to eviscerate that hope, and 619 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 3: it's it's just so. 620 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: Dark, yeah, and it it becomes like death by a 621 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: thousand paper cuts the episode, because you know, there's the 622 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 2: whole conversation with Brooke and Rachel where it's like, hey, 623 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: I know you gave Peyton a shot with her business. 624 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: Can I model again? And Brooke has to tell her, like, baby, 625 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: that wasn't the offer, Like sorry, you misinterpreted this. Yeah, 626 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: I and it it's just a hitter hit after hitten. 627 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: And then Victoria is a tsunami, like she just wipes 628 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: everything out. 629 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, she really does. She really clears the dining room table. 630 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 3: But I loved the scene. That's the one that I 631 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 3: really remembered shooting that scene with Danille and I. I 632 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: loved that they gave me space to be gentle with her. 633 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: You know, so often on an ensemble show, an important 634 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 3: moment happens in like four sentences in a scene. And 635 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: the fact that we got to sit and talk and 636 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: you really got to see Brooke taking Rachel through her 637 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 3: own logic. I don't want to put you in a 638 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 3: scene that's been bad for you. Yeah, it's it's temptation everywhere, 639 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 3: it's dangerous. Let's do something else. I'll support you in 640 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: another way. But it's of course it's crushing for Rachel 641 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: to realize that she's just not going to get what 642 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: she wants. Or what she thought she was getting. 643 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: I have strong sense memory of shooting that scene between 644 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: Peyton and Rachel out on the deck because it was 645 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 2: kind of this sense of like, we're giving you your 646 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: friend back, We're giving you your gift back, right, And 647 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: I was so like, oh, she's here, fantastic. It felt 648 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 2: like a dangling carrot, like you want this, and I did. 649 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 2: I was so happy to have her there, and then 650 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: we were all I remember all of us like hanging 651 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 2: out in the apartment set because that scene where Chase 652 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: first shows up and it's Rachel, Brooke and Peyton, Yeah, 653 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 2: really enjoying it so fun. I remember that so well 654 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: because it felt like high school again. I felt real. 655 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: It was like the gang is back together, and that 656 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: energy I think is a tease for the audience because 657 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: they're like, oh my god, we're gonna have the girls, 658 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: like the cheoting squad back together. And by the end 659 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: of the episode, Rachel is caput. She's gone. I know. 660 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 3: It makes me so sad. I thought about that for you. 661 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: When I saw you walk out onto that balcony, I 662 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: was like, Oh, they're having one of those moments like 663 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: where they give you your real life friend on screen. 664 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was no reason for that scene. Yeah, Nune No. 665 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: I had a great time. I had my friend back. 666 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 2: In this episode. I got to kiss Kaletti a couple times. 667 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: How is that? 668 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: That was awesome? 669 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 4: You know? 670 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: It was so weird because it was like he and 671 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: I were buddies, and I didn't want to be like 672 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: a creeper, but I was really excited to kiss someone 673 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: new because I've been doing so much belly ache and 674 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: over Lucas that I was like, yeah, maybe this will 675 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: be a thing, and then it clearly wasn't. But I 676 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: like that they're being cool with each other in that way. 677 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: I like that they both like Peyton finally has someone 678 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: that validates like, hey, it's okay, like you can still 679 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 2: have a crush on that person because I have a 680 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: crush on Brook. 681 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 682 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: Cool, I feel like having a cohort in a way. 683 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 2: I was into that. I like that. And then later 684 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: later in like season six, life imitated Art because I 685 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 2: got dumped by this dude I was seeing and Colletti 686 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: is who took me out and like we went out 687 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 2: to a bar and he's such a good wingman. He 688 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: was just like, I am not going to let you 689 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: wallow in this we are gonna dance and we went 690 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 2: to go see Bibbis sing, oh yeah, yeah, he's a 691 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: good wingman. He's a good, good party buddy when you're 692 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 2: down and out. So yeah, I I think that moment 693 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: at the party was great, and I think that there's 694 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: still a spark between Brooke and Chase. Is that what 695 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 2: the plan was? Were they gonna remove Owen and like, 696 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: have you hooked back up a Chase? 697 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I really don't remember. I don't know 698 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 3: if maybe it was like like was Joe was true 699 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 3: blood in the mix at this point, like did we 700 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 3: know he was leaving? 701 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: I feel like there was a tingle. 702 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. That's sort of what I what 703 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 3: my brain is pulling up. But I don't know if 704 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: the timeline is accurate or not. They would always just 705 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: be so mad when guest stars would get other work. 706 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 3: So maybe I'm a little truck. 707 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: We're not going to offer you a full contract, but 708 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 2: but we will be thoroughly pissed if someone else hires you. 709 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, these people have bills to pay, right, Hello, 710 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 3: that's why we're still striking. 711 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: You two are so cute in this episode. 712 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh, Joe and I are Stephen and I. 713 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,959 Speaker 2: You and Joe You sitting in his lap eating birthday cake. 714 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, it was so innocent. 715 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. We always had like a very easy chemistry. And 716 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: Joe is so kind and he really he's got that 717 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 3: like protector energy. 718 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: You would have to at his size. Can you imagine 719 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 2: I'm not having protector energy? But Joe just always. 720 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: Made me feel really safe, and you know, we were 721 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 3: in an environment where we didn't always feel safe, and 722 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: it was easy and it was nice. And you know, 723 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: he wasn't one of those guys who like showed up 724 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: at work trying to hit on everybody. He was like 725 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 3: a good dude. 726 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 2: He was probably the most platonic dude that we ever 727 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 2: had come on the show. Like, yeah, I never feel 728 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 2: any weirdness from him ever ever ever. 729 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: Truly such a like good sweet dude. Oh I wish 730 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 3: we had I wish we had a little mole in 731 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 3: the writer's room because I would love to know if 732 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 3: they were putting him in his place by bringing Colletti back, 733 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: or if they were just trying to figure out how 734 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: to bring Colleti back because we missed him like, I 735 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 3: don't know. 736 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 2: I don't know either, but it feels pointed. It's a 737 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: great story point. I love it. I love that it 738 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: puts Brooke in the same position that like Lucas is in, 739 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 2: because it's like, we've made so much fun of Lucas 740 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: for how poorly he's doing in this situation, and so 741 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: it's like, well, let's see if a woman can handle 742 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: this any better, and so far, so good. I like 743 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: that Brooke is just like, hey man, what do you 744 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: want from me? I'm adorable. Of course they're all in 745 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 2: love with me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that tactic, 746 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 2: and I like that I don't know. I just like 747 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 2: the energy between Peyton and Brooke in this episode. I 748 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: feel like we were so in lockstep with one another 749 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: and everything felt really safe, and even when we're making 750 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: jokes about like oh I'm gonna kiss your boyfriend whatever, 751 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 2: it's easy, it's fun. You know that they're taking care 752 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: of one another. So I'm going through here and I'm 753 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 2: looking at my notes about what I remember from this episode. 754 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 2: The Lucas and Lindsay stuff is sweet in this episode. 755 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: I like the idea that she finally makes the connection 756 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: for all of us because I hadn't thought about it before. 757 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 2: Where She's like, if my dad and uncle Keith were 758 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: hanging out at a bar in heaven, what do you 759 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: think they would talk about? Like that's a connection point 760 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 2: that we really haven't seen addressed on the show. And 761 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 2: I like that she does that for us. 762 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 3: That like ruined me. I needed to search for a word. 763 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 3: It just and again we've talked about this gap between 764 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 3: our life experience then and our life experience now. It 765 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 3: hits different now because we all have those experiences. We 766 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 3: think about those things, We think about the people that 767 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: we love that aren't here anymore, and are they all 768 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 3: together somewhere? Like oh, and I don't know it. I 769 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 3: went from like watching the episode taking notes to just 770 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 3: like choking on an ugly sob it really it just 771 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 3: got me. 772 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a connection point for the two of them. 773 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: That's really serious, because to lose a parent is awful. 774 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 2: To lose a parent in your teens, in your early twenties, 775 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: before you get married, before you have kids, before you 776 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 2: hit all these like professional milestones, before before like all 777 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 2: the stuff is a pain that thankfully not everyone knows. 778 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: And so to find another human that gets it and 779 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 2: can hold your hand through it. I like that Lucas 780 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 2: and Lindsay have each other. That's a great connection. It 781 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: was a connection that he had with Peyton, you know, 782 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 2: So it makes sense if it ain't broke, don't fix 783 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: it well. 784 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 3: And I think there's something as a viewer, you know, 785 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 3: who's not in the dynamic of that relationship and that 786 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 3: triangle for the three of you. As as beautiful as 787 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 3: the question is and the ensuing conversation, you can't help 788 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 3: five years into this thing when you've been rooting for 789 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 3: Lucas and Peyton having that little itch going. But Keith 790 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 3: and Peyton's mom, like they've shared this stuff already. This 791 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 3: this is new for Lindsay, but you know it's not 792 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 3: for him because of you, and it's and it's a 793 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't know it really it put me deep in 794 00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: my feelings. 795 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I loved the moon bounce. Let me just 796 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,320 Speaker 2: tell you how much I loved that moon bounce because 797 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 2: we got to have it for the duration of filming 798 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: and so we would wrap work and just bounce in 799 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: the moon bounce. The idea that this kid through this 800 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: party is fantastic because I like all the things that 801 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: five year olds like and yeah, I like that it 802 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 2: worked out this way because then our crew got to 803 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: actually use all of these party things, Like someone had 804 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 2: to eat all that cotton candy. It was us amazing. Yeah, 805 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: grown up moon bounces should be more of a thing. 806 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm so into it, like and look, I was a 807 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 3: camp counselor. I love watching other people's kids. I also 808 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: shamelessly when there is a moon bounce at a thing, 809 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll watch the kids. 810 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: I want to get in there. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 811 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 2: let me in. 812 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: I got I got it, I got it. You go 813 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: get a beer. I'll be over there with. 814 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: Them, dude. I volunteered for field day at my son's 815 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,959 Speaker 2: school and they had all these inflatable things and one 816 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 2: of them was a slip and slide, but it was 817 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,320 Speaker 2: like two slides, so you were racing against the person 818 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: next to you. 819 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 3: That's so fun. 820 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 2: And one of the teachers was like, do you want 821 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: to race? And I did, I really really did, but 822 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. I was like, no, I have 823 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,720 Speaker 2: to be the adult here. Oh man, no, I couldn't listen. Listen, 824 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm an authoritative figure with those seventh graders. I gotta 825 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 2: be an adult also, I just didn't want to be 826 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: wet all day. Yeah, with kids, Like if it was 827 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 2: like a grown up party and we were drinking blue 828 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: Moon and having a good time, Like yeah, yes, but 829 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: like hanging out in the school baseball field. No, I 830 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 2: don't think that, not for me, not the vibe. No, 831 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 2: but it did seem like a dope party. And remember 832 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 2: what a big deal Guitar Hero was. Oh well, we. 833 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: Were all really playing that at that stage. Remember that's 834 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 3: when we all got the consoles because of jack So 835 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 3: everybody got a we everybody got a Guitar Hero. We 836 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: had it in the office and it it The fact 837 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 3: that it worked its way into the episode I thought 838 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: was very sweet. 839 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's how you knew we were also 840 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 2: in a writer's strike, because they're like, what can we 841 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: just farm? Real? Yeah, we know that Jackson's into this. 842 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: Jackson's performance in this episode is my favorite because I 843 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,839 Speaker 2: have a five year old and I saw so much 844 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: of my daughter in him this episode, especially in the 845 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: scene where Brooke and Owen go to his bedroom and 846 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: he does this real sly little is this your boyfriend? Yeah? 847 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 2: And that's exactly how my daughter asks questions. It's always like, hmmm, 848 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 2: I'm suspicious of you. 849 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 3: That's so cute. 850 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 2: I love a suspicious child. 851 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 3: I do too, and I love this whole phase. Getting 852 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 3: to be Jamie's godmother was just the best I had 853 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: the best. Season five was so fun for me. 854 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 2: Frankly, I'm surprised that brooken skills never get together because 855 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: they're the most like pro Jamie godparents. That would have 856 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: been an interesting turn. 857 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 3: It would have been fun, just. 858 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: A little like let's play house. We both love this 859 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 2: child well. I think that Jackson had to do a 860 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 2: lot of heavy lifting here, and he. 861 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,399 Speaker 3: Did, and he did it really, really well. 862 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not being a brat with his mom, 863 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 2: but he's be needy. Yeah, and there's a fine line there, 864 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 2: and I feel so much for him while also being like, hey, 865 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: moms need a minute. 866 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, give her a minute. 867 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 2: But the thing that got me was like Nathan's having 868 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 2: all the fun with the kid because he's glossing over 869 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 2: those big questions and Haley's so honest with Jamie in 870 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: the episode and it's like, baby, I don't know the answers, 871 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer, and Nathan is like, yeah, 872 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 2: I sure, hope I get to come home right after 873 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: Haley's told him like you're not coming home, like we're 874 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 2: done done, and so yeah, this poor little boy is 875 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 2: getting very mixed messages. Yeah, but he gets to he 876 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 2: gets to bounce. They got a party out of the dude. Well. 877 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 2: How did we feel about the scene between you and Victoria? 878 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: Because that was epic. 879 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 3: I just felt like it was such a long time coming. 880 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 3: I it's visceral for me remembering that, and I don't know, 881 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 3: in many ways, I feel like getting to stand up 882 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 3: to her as Brooke in that moment was also cathartic 883 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 3: for every time I've never stood up for myself in 884 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: my real life. You know, I don't know it does 885 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 3: it feels like it feels close? What was it like 886 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 3: for you watching it? 887 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know if I can talk about it, you. 888 00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 6: Talk about it. Yeah. 889 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 2: What I loved is that she's she tells Brooke over 890 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: and over again. She's like, brook you have to remove 891 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 2: emotion from business. You have to remove emotion from business, 892 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 2: not realizing that the only thing keeping her in Brooks 893 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 2: business is emotional and so the second that Brooke takes 894 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 2: her advice and removes the emotion from the business, She's gone, Yeah, 895 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 2: I just loved that little turn where it was like, 896 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna do exactly what she told me to. 897 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: You win, You're gone. That's the kind of emotional docy 898 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 2: dough I want in my series. I'm like, yeah, you 899 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 2: got what you wanted. 900 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,280 Speaker 3: Suck at Victoria, I I got a lot. 901 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 2: What are we missing? What else? What else happened? 902 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 3: Oh Peyton, seeing Lindsay in her wedding dress was a moment. 903 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 2: Girl. Was it weird? 904 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 3: Did you have like do you feel jealousy about it 905 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 3: because like and Lucas or your territory? What did it 906 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,319 Speaker 3: feel like? 907 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure at the time I felt like 908 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 2: it was weird, like oh cool, I'm sure that's fun 909 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,720 Speaker 2: for you. Then you're a ball gown. But now thinking 910 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 2: about it, I'm just really glad I didn't do that 911 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 2: like tucked ball you know that like kind of like tucking. 912 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 2: That's not like the skirt of the ball gown that 913 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: was very two thousands. Bridal fashion is so easy to 914 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 2: fuck up. And so while I love it for Brooke 915 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,799 Speaker 2: Davis and closeover Bros. That she got to design this dress, aesthetically, 916 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: it was not a Peyton vibe. It's not a vibe 917 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 2: I would have. 918 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 3: Worn, not my vibe aesthetically either. 919 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 920 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like a it was like a like 921 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 2: a a fake pinning that was happening on the ball 922 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 2: gowns of skirts back then, where it was supposed to look. 923 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, like a lemon merangue, like you know 924 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 2: when merangue is bait and it just stays in its 925 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: shaves in his shape. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, or like 926 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: a like an ice cream cone, right, like the skirt 927 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 2: half that kind of soft, sir. I wasn't mad about 928 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: that dress. If it had been all like angular and 929 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: bitchy like my wedding dress in real life was, then yeah, 930 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 2: I would have been jealous. But I didn't want that dress. 931 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 2: So I guess you were asking me about the boy 932 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,439 Speaker 2: part of it. I can all I'm just like the dress. 933 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 3: You're like, whatever, I don't care. 934 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,359 Speaker 2: I don't even care. No. I thought. There was an 935 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 2: awkward moment in the episode where Peyton goes to see 936 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 2: Lucas at the basketball court and is like, are you 937 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: gonna yell at me for being mean to Lindsay yeah, 938 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 2: and he's like, I didn't hear anything about it. That 939 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 2: was awkward, But I don't know twenty two how old 940 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 2: are our characters? Twenty one two? Awkward? Let's be graceful 941 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: about it. Lucas, for his part, though, don't do any 942 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 2: weird shit with Peyton at the party. Congratulations, he's like 943 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: focused on his bride. 944 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 3: Finally, it's very different than the clothover bros. Opening My god. 945 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,720 Speaker 2: Right, No, he's doing it. 946 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 3: You can do better. I'm still still icked about that. No, 947 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 3: he was good, and getting to see them be together 948 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,720 Speaker 3: in a nice way was nice. 949 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,959 Speaker 2: I bought it. It's what they probably were pre Brook 950 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 2: and Peyton coming home. Yes, now we're finally getting to 951 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 2: see it. Well, well, well, Brooke was convinced earlier, Peyton's convinced. Now. 952 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 2: I guess Lucas and Lindsay are going to be happily 953 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 2: over after whatever. It's fine, I'll just go kiss all 954 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 2: of Brook's other ex boyfriends, right, yeah, sorry, I guess 955 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: Peyton never kisses Owen, does she? No? Trying to think 956 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,959 Speaker 2: if there are any other Brook quest that we didn't 957 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 2: cross over on. 958 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't think you do. And in later years, 959 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 3: you know, once you had left and they made poor 960 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 3: sweet Jana do it. So like Alex goes for Julian 961 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 3: almost like Nanny Carey goes for Nathan. I mean, obviously 962 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 3: pre us finding out she's a sociopath. But yeah, it 963 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 3: was gnarly and I was just like, why is everybody 964 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,760 Speaker 3: always trying to own Brooks boyfriends? What's happened? 965 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,760 Speaker 2: Irritating? You said, Carrie, One thing I forgot in this episode, 966 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: you guys, is that the amazing woman who was my 967 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 2: stand in on the show, Carrie Moscow please, the store 968 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 2: clerk that ends up sleeping with Dan, right, But she 969 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 2: also played the prostitute that went home with Matt Barr. 970 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that Derek dressed up to look like Peyton. 971 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 2: And I love that this one character sleeps with Matt 972 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 2: Barr and gets assaulted and then sleeps with Dan Scott 973 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 2: the second he gets out of prison. And she's just 974 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: she's part of the folklore of Tree Hill. 975 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 3: She is a bad man magnet. 976 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's spicy. Patty. What was her name Patty? 977 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 3: In the episode Patty, what time do you get off 978 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 3: to pass? When do you want to pick me up? 979 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,359 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I just love that they cast 980 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: carry for these parts because she's so great. 981 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,760 Speaker 3: I love it. She is great. 982 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 2: I liked the episode all in all. It made me 983 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 2: want to go home and have an all class reunion 984 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,360 Speaker 2: with my high school friends. 985 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked it. I'm gonna be curious when we 986 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 3: get on for the next one and we get joy back. 987 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to have some follow up questions, 988 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 3: you know, when we watch the episodes and it's like previously, 989 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 3: I want to next week. I want to have a 990 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 3: little previously on with her. 991 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 2: Because she was so good in this episode. 992 00:56:49,800 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 3: Oh so good. Do we want to do a fan question? 993 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 2: I think we ought to. 994 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 3: I've got one for us from Tanya. She says, how 995 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 3: far ahead do you know the plot lines when acting? 996 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 3: For example, that Lindsay leaves Lucas at the altar, that 997 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 3: Nanny Carey is actually crazy? Oh, Tanya, buckle up, babe. 998 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 2: Like the week before maybe if you're lucky. 999 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes a day before if you're not lucky. 1000 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 2: We were getting into binds where we would get the 1001 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 2: script like two days before we'd have to start it, yeah, 1002 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 2: because it has to go through so many revisions and 1003 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 2: then like network notes and then tone meetings and a 1004 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 2: lot of executive level blooney before it gets to the 1005 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 2: actors that are like, oh cool, let me just memorize 1006 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 2: sixty pages. 1007 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, by tomorrow. And you know you've got to prep, 1008 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,280 Speaker 3: you've got to figure out how to make things work. 1009 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 3: It's not just memorizing, it's all the other building of 1010 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 3: the world you have to do. And yeah, it can 1011 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 3: be really crazy making when you know, let's say we'd 1012 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 3: be starting a new episode. This is five eleven, for example, 1013 00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 3: we're starting five eleven on a Thursday, and we don't 1014 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 3: get the script until Tuesday night, and it's like, well, 1015 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 3: I wish I'd have known that Chase was gonna be 1016 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 3: Owen's friend, because I would have done this thing differently 1017 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 3: in the scene we shot yesterday in five ten, like, 1018 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 3: you know, that wouldn't have been the one obviously that 1019 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,479 Speaker 3: was a surprise. But yeah, if you know Lindsay's gonna 1020 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 3: leave him at the altar, or you know that someone's 1021 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 3: gonna get arrested, that can inform a lot about your work. Yeah, 1022 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,480 Speaker 3: and they just don't always tell you. 1023 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 2: Well, even for me in this narrative right where it's 1024 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 2: like Peyton said, I love you and you're getting married. Cool. Great, 1025 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna deal with it. If I'd have known that 1026 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 2: Lindsay was gonna leave him at the altar. I probably 1027 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 2: would have paid, like played the panic a little bit 1028 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,919 Speaker 2: more right of like, oh my god, he's actually gonna 1029 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: go through with this, like he's actually gonna do this. Instead, 1030 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 2: in my mind, Lucas was getting married, so Peyton was 1031 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 2: gonna go off in a different direction. Yes, I kind 1032 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 2: of played it like I'm the cool girl, I'm gonna 1033 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 2: get over it, and like I don't care. 1034 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 3: I have to get over it. What's my choice? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1035 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 3: So I was. 1036 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 2: Kind of more apathetic about it, But I feel like 1037 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 2: it would have enhanced the drama if Peyton had been 1038 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 2: a little bit more like, oh I care, I care, 1039 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 2: I care. Yeah, but I didn't know. I legitimately thought 1040 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: they were gonna get married and have babies and do 1041 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 2: the thing. So I was I mean, frankly, I was 1042 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 2: just looking at the call sheets to see if someone 1043 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 2: knew was coming in that I could kiss. Wow, what's 1044 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 2: happening next? Is Greenberg back? He wasn't. They teased us 1045 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 2: with that this season though. I remember them being like, oh, 1046 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 2: we're trying to get him. Yeah he said that every year. 1047 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, Tanya, it's uh, it's not like a movie 1048 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 2: where we know what's gonna happen. We have to play 1049 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 2: everything super open ended. They're gonna throw it us. I 1050 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,919 Speaker 2: love it, all right. What's your honorable mention? 1051 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 3: I liked that line of joys. That's mine. I shouldn't 1052 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 3: have tried to change you. Oh god, that's my honorable mention. Sorry, 1053 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 3: it's a downer. 1054 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, my honorable mention is in the car with Chase 1055 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:38,959 Speaker 2: and Owen and Brooke and Peyton. Yeah, when he says, 1056 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 2: do you remember the fake virgin chick? And we don't 1057 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 2: get mad at the fake virgin part? No, we are 1058 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 2: we go chick? He called me a chip fake virgin, 1059 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 2: yes chick, No, no, sir. Yeah, we should make t 1060 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: shirts that say that, do you remember the fake virgin chick? 1061 01:00:58,520 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: All right? 1062 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 2: Into it? Do it all right, We're gonna spin a wheel. 1063 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 3: Spin, We'll send you home. 1064 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Bevin was so good in this episode. 1065 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Bevin was so good in this episode. Honorable Yeah, yeah, 1066 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 2: just putting her foot in her mouth over and over 1067 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,959 Speaker 2: and over again. 1068 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 3: So funny. 1069 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: Oh. 1070 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 3: Most likely to own a food truck? 1071 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 2: Okay, character, which character is most likely to own a 1072 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 2: food truck? 1073 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Tim? 1074 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was yeah, yes, because he's gonna put He's 1075 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: gonna have one of those like Ponzi scheme ideas where 1076 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 2: he gets some dumb investor where he's like, guys, it's nachos, 1077 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,760 Speaker 2: but it's made out of beer, you know, like yeah, 1078 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 2: some stupid yeah, and someone's gonna invest in that. 1079 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 3: Someone's gonna invest in it, and he's just gonna be 1080 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: driving around town making people snacks. 1081 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmm track. I like that. Where I'm at right now, 1082 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: we have ice cream trucks all over the place and 1083 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 2: they are not playing old school songs anymore. They've got 1084 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 2: this you're kind of electronic like music, but it sounds 1085 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 2: like horror film music, like it sounds like a stranger thing. No, 1086 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 2: I'm just out there going for a walk and you 1087 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 2: hear like soundtrack of doom coming up behind you, so 1088 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: like crazy, that's a Tim move. Oh my god, for 1089 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600 Speaker 2: sure a Tim move. Who in real life? I mean, 1090 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 2: Daneil has food trucks at family business brewing company, at 1091 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 2: the distillery, they have food trucks. 1092 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Well, there you go. I a food truck for me 1093 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 3: is the kind of dream that surfing is. I think 1094 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 3: I would love it if I did it, and I'm 1095 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 3: never gonna do it, But in my head, I'm just 1096 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 3: I'm a month away from having a taco truck or 1097 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 3: being a girl who knows how to work a surfboard. 1098 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't even like the ocean, but I think I 1099 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 3: think about it, and I'm like, I could do that someday. 1100 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 3: I never will. I love that, but God, I would 1101 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 3: love to have a food truck. 1102 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 2: Oh my saxt could be my business. Hell yeah, in 1103 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 2: our next lifetime, that's happening, all right, you guys. Next 1104 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 2: episode we have season five, episode twelve. It's called hundred, 1105 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 2: one hundred, very Antoine. Antoine used to say that he 1106 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 2: still says that all the time. One hundred. All right, 1107 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for hanging in with us. 1108 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 3: See you next time. 1109 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for listening. 1110 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 3: Don't forget to leave us a review. 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