1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,319 Speaker 1: I with Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton an iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode. 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Of that was great? 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: How did we do that in unison sync? Yes? 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we see b and Benidos welcome back. We had 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: a lot of trash to talk today, don't with my friend? 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh per usual for her. I think we're pretty good 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: at it, and I know that you guys love listening 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: to us, and I guess we should just start by 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: playing a quick catchup, right, jump on in. By the way, 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: did you see? Us Weekly reported that many illustors avoided 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: taking pictures or asking to be taking pictures with Megan 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: Markle at the lavish Hampton's gathering. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: I get Bana, Bana, Hannah. I just I don't. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: Why does she still just good anyway? We're so embarrassed 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: for her? 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're embarrassed for her. Why does she go anywhere? 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: And anyway? Every time she goes out, everyone gets like 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: pissed off and nobody wants to be around her. It's 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 1: she's just like. 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: This, does she even realize it? I think that she 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: thinks she's like so above all that that she doesn't 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: even realize that people really don't like her, want to 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: take a picture with her. I yeah, So one source 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: said that they knew that if they're in a picture 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: with her, which means Megan, it is an approval of 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: her that she can't use to promote herself. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh right, So people don't want to take a picture 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: with her because they think that she's going to use 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: it to promote her thing, her projects, whatever it is, 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, Like she wants people to believe her, 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: right right. But I thought it was funny that it's 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Gweneth Paltrow. Yeah, that she's not very liked either. Nicol 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: wants a picture anyway, She's She's probably like, look, nobody 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: likes me. So I'm talking definitely not taking a picture. 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I am Megan, get away from me. 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: I got enough troubles on my own exactly. I mean, 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: I just thought it was like a poor choice, Like, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: if you want to take a picture, it's not going 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: to be with gwen because by the way, nobody likes 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: her and YouTube together, like, it's not going anywhere, are 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: they right? So the big question is, really, have you 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: ever avoided someone out a function? 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Oh? Actually, I have a really good story and you 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: were there like usual okay, well I want to hear it. 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Okay, remind me of that good story. 47 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember this summer when we went to Madonna's 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: son's art Guy. 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: You already that one. 50 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: I knew it was that one. 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Say it? 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: So we Alexi and I obviously are invited to an 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: art showing for rocker Richie. He was an amazing artist, 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Madonna's son with Guy Ritchie and the people that were 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: throwing it on. The minute I walk in the door, 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: come running up to me and going, oh my god, 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Adriana from your show showed up. She wasn't invited. I'm 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: so sorry we didn't invite her. We're so sorry. Please 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: don't leave. I mean, we know, you know, we want 60 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: you in Alexia here, but we don't want her here. 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Right the way, Yeah, nobody even noticed her, you know, 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean I was trying not to know. I mean, 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: she's easy to miss. But anyway, fast forward with that 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: being said, uh huh. So then a photographer comes out 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: to me and says, hey, let's get a group picture, 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, sure, And all of a sudden 67 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm standing next to Adriana. I go, oh no, no, 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: wait wait, I'll be right back and I go grab 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Alexia and I said, Adrianna wants a picture with us? 70 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: And Alexia's like, hell, no, of course. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Not so at that moment, I'm like, are you kidding me? 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Like Adriana wants a picture with us to validate or 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: to pretend they were in good terms and were in 74 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: speaking terms, and she's my friend, and guess what, I'm 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: not doing that. I'm not falling into that now. So 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: I know the photographer didn't like it, because of course 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: he wanted that picture of the three of us, and I, 78 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: you know, very quickly said absolutely not, pretty much like 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: in her face. And I was like, okay with it. 80 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: It's like I can't be a hypocrite that aya. 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: But then she called you out and when you were. 82 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Leaving it so she you know, became who she is, 83 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: like a housewife. Moment the cameras weren't there, and she 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: actually chased me outside. Yeah, and she's like, you know, 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: you should have taken that picture with me. I don't 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: know where you want a picture with me? And I go, 87 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: why don't I want a picture with you? I know, like, 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? You've been insulting me all season 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: and making up lies you know about my family and 90 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: you know, just going after me every season, and now 91 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: you want a picture with me, Like I'm not that 92 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: kind of friend. Yeah, Like I take pictures with my friends, 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: with people that I like and I admire or fra respect. 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: If you want to say you're our fan, then maybe 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: we'll let you know what. 96 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: Maybe no, no, my fans. 97 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I love my family. 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean her right, Well, maybe that's what she was 99 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: trying to do. Fan. I feel like a lot of 100 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: people are very strategic about that, and I feel like 101 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: Megan is one of those people. You know, she just 102 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: goes to events, you know, to get that picture and 103 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: you know, to have like, you know, a false narrative 104 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: of who she is and who her friends are and 105 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: her story and just to use it later on. 106 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: I Unfortunately, for her, there's just nothing she does seems 107 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: to feel authentic and right. It just always seems like 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: bad acting. 109 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: I agree, Well that's not why she's acting. I mean, 110 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: I feel like that's why she's not acting, because like 111 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: she's not even a good actress. I've never been I've 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: never really cared for her. 113 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know she wasn't until she did 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: at Megan, I mean, sorry, Harry. But yeah, but then 115 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, when she was on the world stage, it's 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: been Wow. Yeah, she's like the world's worst actress. 117 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: She is, and she's never been like somebody that's caught 118 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: my attention. You know, there's like certain like celebrities or 119 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: like stories about families or people that are quite interesting 120 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: and you just you know, even though everybody may hate them, 121 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: you may still have like a liking for them, or 122 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: there's something but about her. I've just like never been interested. 123 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: So you know what, we're not taking a picture with you, Megan. 124 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Harry. I'll take a picture of 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Harry any day. 126 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 127 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not with me. He's a redhead. You know 128 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: how I feel about Gingi's. 129 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 2: Well, that's you. Yeah, I don't have that fetish. We'll 130 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: leave that to you. 131 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about this because my husband listens 132 00:05:59,680 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: to this. 133 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: Okay, well I didn't even want to talk about this, 134 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: but like you know, we have to start with something. 135 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not start with bashing Megan? 136 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, moving right along to people I love? Yes, 137 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: So this time is Ben Affleck of course really not 138 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: j Loo, So you can talk about it because it's Ben. 139 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, listen, I mean, how could we not have 140 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: an episode without at least one of them in it, 141 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: Ben or Jail. Of course. 142 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, they're all over the place, you know, and unlike Megan, 143 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: Ben doesn't want a picture with anybody, right, he doesn't. 144 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: By the way, he doesn't want anybody to take a 145 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: picture with him either. 146 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 147 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: So he's like avoiding this but evoting. He can't get 148 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: away from it, you know, he can't get away from 149 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: the paparazzis, he can't get away from the media attention. 150 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: And now he can't get away with his horrible crew cut, 151 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: not krow cut. 152 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: What is it? The foe hawk full hawk? Yeah? Can 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: you say that three times? Oh? 154 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: Hawk, full hack, full hock. Yeah, I know what you 155 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: want me to say, You're gonna have a slip, and 156 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to say the other words. 157 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, it still sounded pretty nasty, Okay. 158 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, so he can't even get a fu hawk 159 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: without the cameras, you know, chasing him and taking pictures 160 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: of him. And now he's like spotted embracing that rocker 161 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: look riding around town in a motorcycle. I mean that 162 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: screams midlife crisis all over the place. 163 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen him on a motorcycle before. 164 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: But listen, I don't know anything about him. He does 165 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: like a bicycle, so now, yeah, he threw a motor on. 166 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Now he made it electrical. Yeah, so yeah, and he 167 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: has the black leather jacket to go with it. 168 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: The skinny jeans. By the way, bro, skinny jeans are 169 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: installed anymore. 170 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's like a simple guy from Boston. 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: That's not you know, Okay, So it's okay. I think 172 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: that we always for Justinians. 173 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: Bostonians, they're like they're super gringo, or they're they're very waspy, 174 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: or they're very very like. 175 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: Well, he's never had a sense of fashion. 176 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: He's like a simple dude. He likes his beer, he 177 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: likes his dude, he likes his friends. He just has 178 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: a really glamorous job. But he doesn't fit the profile 179 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: of a movie star. 180 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: He's just okay, you know what profile if he fits what? 181 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: Midlife crisis? Oh yeah, midlife crisis. You know, he's being 182 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: super impulsive. He's having poor judgment in my. 183 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: So tell me why you think he's having poor judgment. 184 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: I think his whole behavior in the last couple of 185 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: months shows his poor judgment, you know, as far as 186 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: taking his belongings out of the house when Jalo left 187 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: and she was in Europe, kind of like doing it 188 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: behind her back. 189 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: But maybe maybe she said I'm gonna if you're I 190 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be there when you move out, and 191 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: she left, you know I would do that. 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to be I don't think it's like that, 193 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: but it's okay, you can go with that. But yeah, 194 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. I mean, we don't know 195 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: about Megan either. We don't know about any of these 196 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: people were talking about me. I mean, we just can't 197 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: like assume or speculate like a lot of people are 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: doing and then go by what the sources are saying. 199 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: And you should eat the sources. We know who they are. 200 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: They're the people around you that are in your everyday lives, 201 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: that are listening, are watching and all these things. So 202 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: and I think he's being super And the last thing 203 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: he did was buy a twenty million dollar home on 204 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: the day of her birthday. 205 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 206 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: So that's impulsive. You just don't go buy that's a 207 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: a super super impulsive act that you just go buy 208 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: a house for twenty million dollars. 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: Well maybe he needed a write off. 210 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you could be funny and you can 211 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: say all the stuff that you want. He didn't need 212 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: a rite off. You know what. He still has a 213 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: sixty eight million dollar home that he and j Lowe 214 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: bought together. 215 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 216 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: I just think all of his behaviors and this kind 217 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: of like seals the deal where he's being he's going 218 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: through a crisis, and that's okay. He's I tirty nine 219 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: years old to fifty to No, sorry, he's fifty one. 220 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: He's fifty one, so it's it goes with his age. 221 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: A divorce is a crisis though, what I mean, yeah, 222 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: and we all do, we all get that, and you know, 223 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: just I don't know what it is or something about 224 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: that new taste of freedom that just kind of makes 225 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: you do all sorts of crazy stuff. 226 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: It's a but I feel like a lot of men 227 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: that do make these impulse decisions end up regretting it 228 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: at the end. You know, I think that they're so 229 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: unhappy with their with their state of mind and with 230 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: their lives at that moment that they just want to 231 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: get out. You know, they're just very unhappy, and then 232 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: they want to attribute everything to their marriage or to 233 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 2: their person that's next to them, when in reality, it's them. 234 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: You know, it's something like hormonal that the man goes through. 235 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't even know like what it is, you know, 236 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: I know for women also go through the mid life crisis, 237 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: but I feel like we obviously go through it differently 238 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: towards like when we reach menopause. You know, ours is 239 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: more like physical mental, and I feel like we think 240 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: things over more than men do. 241 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: So what it looks like is to me, from what 242 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, is he just wants to be young and 243 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: free and unattached to any kind of responsibilities of the 244 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: life he had before, aside from being a father. 245 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. I mean a lot of times too, men 246 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: go through these things when it's like the emptiness syntrome, 247 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: you know, when their children leave. You know, I feel 248 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: like a lot of couples and marriages once their children leave, 249 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 2: it's kind of like they start focusing on themselves. And 250 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: it's also a very scary age. I mean, we're in 251 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: our fifties and the truth is that it happens to 252 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: both men and women, and we're like, oh my god, 253 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: and I start thinking of mortality. You know, like before, 254 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: like in my thirties and forties, I always thought I 255 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: was going to be young forever, and I felt it inside. 256 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm never gonna get old. 257 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: But once you're in, you're. 258 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: Never gonna look old or get Yeah, you never think 259 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a rinkle or a line. 260 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: I wasn't so much to that. I mean, I didn't 261 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: really care so much about the physical because I don't 262 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: care how good we look. It's internal, at least for 263 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: me it is. So it's kind of like, oh my god, 264 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: like I have you know, maybe like another good ten 265 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: or fifteen years. And unfortunately, sometimes you think, you know, 266 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: you want to blame the person next to you because 267 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: it's the easiest thing. It's like a scapegoat, like, you 268 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: know what, I'm not really happy with my life. You know, 269 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: I think it's you and you know, and people don't 270 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: self reflect and say, you know what, it's me, because 271 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: guess what, be's not that perfect. But what happens with 272 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: men is that they're not vulnerable, like they're not honest 273 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: with themselves and they're not honest with the person. So 274 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: you know, whereas women like we have friends and you 275 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: talk it out with your friends. You have so many friends, 276 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: and then we all start sharing other women like, oh 277 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: my god, I want to do the same thing. Oh 278 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: my god, my husband. So we kind of like share 279 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 2: things and we have a lot of friends. Women have 280 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 2: more like of a closed circle, and they're kind of 281 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: like embarrassed. Like for them, it's like a sign of weakness. Yeah, 282 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: some some, yes, some, I mean I've some and all 283 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: of my friends that have been married or whatnot, most 284 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: of the men have gone through mid life crisis. It's 285 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: something normal. But I feel like the rich guys and 286 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: the ones that already have everything, you know, it's easier 287 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: for them to make that decision or selfish people and say, 288 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: you know what, it's about me now, Like you know, 289 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: why am I going to sit here and you know, 290 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: make all these sacrifices when I've done it all and 291 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: I have like another good ten years and I just 292 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: want to like live my life. 293 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, I know, I definitely certainly think now in terms 294 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: of how much is left to my life at this 295 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: point in my life, Like, so what have I got? Yeah, ten, fifteen, 296 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: twenty years? Yeah it's for me now, Yeah, it's about me. Well, 297 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: I guess it's always been about me. But right, I 298 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: don't have you. Right, I didn't have kids, so you know, 299 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: it's kind of what what was my parents? And then 300 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: it was me and me and then more may and 301 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: still me and it will be me moving forward and 302 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: my husband and my step kids. 303 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: But they have their own mother and men. I feel 304 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: like the men, you know, their role usually is more 305 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: of being like the provider. They have so much responsibility. 306 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: So then when finally the children, you know, they've given 307 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: up all these years, I don't see it as giving 308 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: up or sacrificing, because that's your part as a father 309 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 2: or as a mother, your role. They need their own time, 310 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: but they leave so they have like all this time now, 311 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: all this freedom, so you know, and the first thing 312 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: that men usually do is, you know, get in shape, 313 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: lose weight, and they will yeah, but I mean in 314 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: his case, he's not doing it, and he's you should 315 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: work out a little bit more because I know Jalo 316 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: works out. You should take care a little bit more 317 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: like the donuts. I think, Yeah, I mean he doesn't. 318 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he keeps in shape pretty much, he's not 319 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: working out. 320 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: He's cute, he looks good. 321 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: But you know, they color their hair, A lot a 322 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: lot of the men's either hair. 323 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: If he asked me out and I was saying, oh, 324 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't like. 325 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: Because you know, I don't like him. I think she's 326 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: way better than him. I think by the way you 327 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: put on top of the midlife crisis, the personality styles. 328 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: But they're totally different. They should have never been together. 329 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think. 330 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 331 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, she had to get her cocain, so 332 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: she had to get her man back because after twenty years, 333 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: it was something. It's like the one that she wanted 334 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: when they got away, the one that got away. So 335 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: she had the opportunity to get him back, and she did. 336 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: And by the way, I believe, and I really do 337 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: think that she's super in love with him. And the 338 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: reason why she shared all that is because she wanted to. 339 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: You know, I guess she's never been in love like 340 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: she's been in love with Ben. Oh, yeah, that happens too. 341 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: I think that he will always be the one that 342 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: got away because he got away again. She doesn't like that. 343 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Nobody would like that when you're super in love. I'm sorry, 344 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: I don't care how tough you try to be. And 345 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: I don't care that you're j Lo, because when you're 346 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: really in love and love exists. She she's not fit, 347 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: you know, she's not doing good. She's hurt. I mean, 348 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: she's in pain, you know. And I think that it's 349 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: going to be really, really difficult for her because she 350 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: really had hope. You know. That's the other thing too, 351 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, she lived with that hope and she thought 352 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: maybe by you know, separating for a little bit during 353 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: the summer, that they were going to come back together 354 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: and stronger. She was giving him the space, which is 355 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: smart because when men are going through through these kind 356 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: of things, you have to support it. You have to 357 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: be understanding, you have to be empathetic. I mean doesn't 358 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: mean I mean, it doesn't mean that they can on you, right, 359 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: because that's another thing that sometimes they do when they're 360 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: going through these things because they want somebody younger to 361 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: tell them how great they are and how good they 362 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: are and make them feel good again. 363 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's like, I got to get out 364 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: of here. I need a break, and he was the 365 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: one that was like, I'm moving out, and then she 366 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: decided to take a vacation. That's what I think. 367 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Well, obviously we all know that it's not what you think. 368 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: They've said it before too, they said before that he 369 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: was the one that initiated all this because he wasn't happy. 370 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: And then of course everybody has an opinion, and they're 371 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: saying it's because the documentary that she made, or because 372 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: of the P Diddy videos that are coming out now, 373 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: or the evidence, so everybody has something to do. 374 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: We're going to see those. I hope I never seen them, 375 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: because I don't wish her any bad. No, I don't 376 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: mean about her. I want to see what all this 377 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: craziness that's so ugly and dirty. 378 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: I want to. 379 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I want to know. 380 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: But anyways, so, but again, you know, speaking of him, 381 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: I think it's a real thing, you know, the midlife 382 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: crisis that men go through and at the end, I 383 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: always find that the easiest thing for them to do 384 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: is to escape. And usually these men have certain personality 385 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: styles that they don't really open up. And they told 386 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: their partner what's going on, you know, and it's just 387 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: easier to blame. Oh, it's Jlo's fame. No, my love, 388 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: you met Jalo being Jalo, she wasn't even the Jlo 389 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: she is today, and you fell in love with that, 390 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: and then now twenty years later, she's even more famous, 391 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: she has you know, more work, and now it all 392 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden it bothers him. 393 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you know what, it's him. 394 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: It's he's the problem. He's the problem. He's going through 395 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: a crisis. 396 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. We know it was a 397 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: PR spin. 398 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: Stop stop with the nonsense. Well that stupid. Not even 399 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: read that. It's not gonna Marisol. It's not a PR style. 400 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: Believe it. 401 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: Nobody believes it. I've never read that. Again. Nobody is 402 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: going to put their life on hold and be in 403 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 2: the media every single day with all the hateful comments 404 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 2: and their families involved, they have children involved. That's just stupid. 405 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: And think he thought it was going to go so wrong. 406 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: Have you been with any men that have done mid life, 407 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: that have had midlife? 408 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and you were there for it. Like most things 409 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: in my life, you were there. Yeah. Which one my 410 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: ex turned fifty one and was all of a sudden, 411 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I feel like I need more hair. 412 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, you have a you have a ton of hair. 413 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: Why do you want to get more hair? 414 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: Oh? 415 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: No, Well, there's this robotic arm thing and it puts 416 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: the implants. It pulls him in the back of the 417 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: head to the front. It's not like the old days 418 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: where they cut your brain open, like your skull open 419 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: and sew everything and it looks horrible. And I said, listen, 420 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: whatever you want, I don't think you need it. 421 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: Whatever you want, don't need a microphone. 422 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: I talked, I talked, I drove him there, I babysatam my, 423 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, bandagees, wounded head and his hair, and then 424 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I want to do my eyes 425 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: and my and I was like, I don't think you 426 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: need any of that. You look great, like you really 427 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: don't need that. I like you just the way you are. Okay, 428 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: Fast forward six hour facelift. Yeah, hello, Marisol was the 429 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: nurse baby like you. 430 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: Were making him looking for somebody else. 431 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: Well, yes, I didn't think that. He kept saying, you know, 432 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I need to be competitive at work, and I was like, okay, 433 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: I can understand that. That's fine. Okay, fast forward everybody. 434 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: Five months later, he's like, you know what, I think 435 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move out with my new face and my 436 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: face and my hair and my new egg that I 437 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: had surgically implant it and then you need and took 438 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: care of. Yeah that sucks, my friend, Yeah it sucks. 439 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, a girlfriend of mine 440 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: calls me. She's like, you know, so and so is 441 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: on bumble and he went out with someone that works 442 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: for me. And I said, what why would he be 443 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: on an app? He's a good looking dude, he doesn't 444 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: need to like you know, and he works in a 445 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: business race meeting single people all the time. That makes 446 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: no sense. 447 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: He just wanted somebody to feed his ego. That's what 448 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: happens in the mad life crisis. That's they go looking 449 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: for that. They go needing for adventure, something to talk 450 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: to exactly. 451 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: He's a new. 452 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: Supply, he needed new new people. 453 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, he was also a narcissist, so he liked people 454 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: to listen to his story and they tell him he 455 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: was right and how horrible everybody in his life has 456 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: been to him and blah blah blah. Yeah, and to 457 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: this day, how long has it been six years? Yeah, 458 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: he still has never had a girlfriend. It's become the 459 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: town fluy. 460 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: But that's what I mean about poor judgment, because you know, 461 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: sometimes these men that go through these crisis, mid life crisis, 462 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: they leave and you blame everything that their unhappiness on 463 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: the woman or on their marriage. When they are unhappy themselves, 464 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: they need to fix themselves. It's a lot your partner 465 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: that's making you unhappy. It's not you know, the fame, 466 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: it's not this, it's not the other, it's it's themselves. 467 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: So they need to go work on themselves. 468 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. That's true. Listen. Maybe Ben's the 469 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: kind of guy that you shouldn't even have a partner, 470 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, Listen, he should maybe be alone. 471 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: The first time when he divorced Jennifer Gardner, he went 472 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: and he got this huge tattoo of a phoenix on 473 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: his back. Oh really yeah, so that was he was 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 2: going through his mid life crisis, and he as soon 475 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: as they got divorced, he got this big tattoo. And 476 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: now I have a new love for tattoos because they 477 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: do have a lot of symbolism. I love tattoos and 478 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: thing that. Well, when it's something like that, I totally 479 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: support it. Not just for fun, just getting like something 480 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: stupid on your body. But in that case, it meant 481 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: a lot for him, So I you know. 482 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get one right across his forehead. That's 483 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: his freedom, just saying. 484 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: She should get that. Oh yeah, this guy is hard 485 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: to live with, can't you see me? He always looks 486 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: like angry, he always looks unhappy. He really needs to 487 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: go fix himself. 488 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just a dude. 489 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: You know. Well, your dude isn't like that. I mean, 490 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: that's not Yeah, but. 491 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Steve's more europe He's very European, and he's more like 492 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: Jean de Vive and you know, he's a totally different personality. 493 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: What happens, It feeds my soul. 494 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: When they're going through this that they get frustrated, frustrated, 495 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: it gets very irritable, and then they just blame everything 496 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: and their own happiness, you know, on their curtain situation. 497 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: So what do they do. They go looking for a 498 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: new situation, and by the way, they get themselves in 499 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: more trouble because how can somebody like that be ready 500 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: to move on either into another relationship or to do 501 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: like crazy stuff. And that's what I meant about poor judgment. 502 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: People do it all the time. We always think that, 503 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe if I'm with somebody else, I'll feel 504 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: better and put a band aid on it. And it's 505 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: usually the worst move you can do. You really do 506 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: need to heal, and we've talked about that. The time 507 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: you spend healing yourself makes you better and open to 508 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: attract the right person and have a healthy relationship. I agree. 509 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, find my final thoughts on that because tell 510 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: me so well. The odd thing about a mid life 511 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: crisis is that is so painfully predictable. It's you can 512 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: see it right, you can see it, and sometimes we 513 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: just rather not see it and say kind of like 514 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: brush it off and say, well, you know, all the 515 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: signs are there, but you kind of don't want to 516 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: see it, and you make excuses until you're actually going 517 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: through it. And all the confusion, lamenting and fear of 518 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: regrets were going to happen either way. Think about that, 519 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 2: All those things were going to happen either way. Regardless 520 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: of what paths we choose in life. There will always 521 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: be regrets for some of us because we can't simultaneous 522 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: live every life. You know, it's kind of like you 523 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: want to live other people's life everybody, and you are 524 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: want to live your life. You have to choose your path. 525 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody expresses themselves differently. Some people have to 526 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: vent to a million people and then they do whatever 527 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: they want anyway. Some people have to have, you know, 528 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: one hundred hours of therapy every week. Some people have 529 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: to get take pills and drink alcohol. 530 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: You know. 531 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: Everybody has a different way of dealing with these situations. 532 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: And I guess Ben's well, that's a lot. 533 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: That's a lot too, because a lot of the men 534 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: that are going through middle life crisis also turned to 535 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: like alcohol and partying ways and all that. And I 536 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: pray that Ben doesn't that doesn't happen to Ben. Oh God, yeah, 537 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: you know, because I only wish him, you know, the best, 538 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: and of course I would never want that, you know, 539 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: to happen again. So hopefully he'll keep on focusing on 540 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: being a good father and on his movie roles and producing, 541 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: and he'll find peace within himself, because I believe that 542 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: men lose their peace. 543 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: Real is she the best band? Somebody else may or 544 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: may not be joining only fans because Tory Spelling has 545 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: been joking about joining only fans because god, it's only 546 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: a joke, right, She's got to pay for a children's college. 547 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: But listen, it's no joke. People are making a lot 548 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: of money doing it. 549 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: I mean, it's no joke that we're talking about this. 550 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty embarrassing for a mother of five, 551 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: five kids to be saying that she's gonna join only 552 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: fans to pay for her children's her tuition. 553 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: Her husband is a dead beat. Okay, he's a dead beat. 554 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: Well what about her? And her mother cut her off completely? 555 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: She and her mother was the one that told her, 556 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: don't marry that dude and then don't have children. But 557 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: she had one, not two, and not three, and not four, 558 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: but five kids with him, and he cheated on her 559 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: and kept cheating on her, and she kept having kids 560 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: with him. 561 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: See would I have her problem? Okay, I get it 562 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 2: that Tory's mom doesn't have a good relationship with her, 563 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: and that's her daughter, but these are her grandchildren. And 564 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: you know what, maybe you don't want to give them, like, 565 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: you know, a big house and cars and luxury items, 566 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 2: but an education is something basic. And if I had 567 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: the money they did and the kids really wanted to 568 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: go to school, I mean, because there's some kids that 569 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: just go to college for fun and you know, not 570 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: to do anything else. But if I was their grandma 571 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 2: in that position, I will say, you know what, I'm 572 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: going to take care of the kids that really take 573 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: school serious and want a career. I'm going to support that, 574 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: and I'm going to pay for that, and you don't 575 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: have to worry about that. But you know, I'm not 576 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: in their situation. I don't know exactly I mean it. 577 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: I'll go because it's very weird that a grandmother doesn't 578 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: want to pay for. 579 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, Tory historically it's just done absolutely everything that her 580 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: mother didn't want her to agree. 581 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: With that, but these are their grandchildren, you know, so 582 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 2: you shouldn't take it out on your grandchildren. 583 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the old lady stubborn. What can I 584 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: tell you? She is and so is Tory, and she's 585 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: punishing and I guess she wants her I guess her 586 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: dying breath will be you should have listened to me, 587 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: and you should have done what I said, because this 588 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: all could have been yours. 589 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting to see if she does change 590 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: things around when she's in that situation of her passing. 591 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, and I don't know much 592 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 2: about them, but I know that she'll do. You know, 593 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 2: she's saying and teasing that she'll do anything to pay 594 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: for her her kid's tuition, And it's just very embarrassing 595 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 2: that that's the kind of example that you're trying to, 596 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, show your kids, like, you know what, take 597 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: the easy way out there. Kids are going to go like, wait, 598 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: I don't even want to go to college, and I'll 599 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 2: just go up. I'll do my own only fans, right, 600 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: you take the shortcut, honestly, So I just think everything's 601 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: wrong about it. I wouldn't even joke about it. I 602 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: think it's embarrassing. I think it's shameful. 603 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it depends on what you're doing, because 604 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. So we have a list here of 605 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: celebrities that is huge, the amount of money that people 606 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: are making, so it's quite tempting. I mean, I'm looking 607 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: at this list thinking, why am I going back on 608 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: a house while show? Why don't I just put on 609 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: some lingerie for OnlyFans? But but then, ill, you don't 610 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: even want to show your boops. That's what I was 611 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: gonna say, I don't even show your hooops. Well, what 612 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: am I gonna do? Run around a turtleneck and a 613 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: g string? 614 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that might be a look, that's market, that's 615 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: a market. Well, let's try you want to try it. 616 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: What are you gonna video me? 617 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: I can be your content creator. 618 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking of maybe just washing fruit with my 619 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: feet because there's like a whole footy but is very delicious, 620 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that we can do. But no, I 621 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: mean I don't know how much of it is true. 622 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: But again, I even what about the money, So you're 623 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: really teaching your kids just like no morals or values. 624 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: It's just like it's just easier to go on OnlyFans 625 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and show your papaya and show your you know, whatever 626 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: it is you need to show you Like, for me, 627 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: that's a prostitution. 628 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Honestly, you know how I've always felt about OnlyFans, right right, 629 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: And I'm. 630 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Just like okay with it. 631 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: You know, I would do anything possible, any any other 632 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: job besides like selling myself, you know, and like to me, 633 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: that's you may selling your body, like you're trying to 634 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 2: sell your naked your naked body or anything sexual. Like 635 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: I want to show you my boob if I want 636 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: to show you my boob, like look at my boob, 637 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: but I don't expect you to pay me to show 638 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: you my boob. 639 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so you would show your boob, but you don't 640 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: want to be. 641 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: But not on only fans. I'm just saying it's not 642 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: like I'm so so prude. I'm not saying like, oh 643 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: my god, no, like I would never be on lingerie. 644 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm in front of lingerie whoever I want to be. 645 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: You want, there's a transaction. That's okay, Okay. I'm just 646 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: trying to clear it up for the listeners. But then 647 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: people will say, well, it's different because you know on Instagram, 648 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: you know all the girls like pos and bikinis, and 649 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: you know it's like the same thing. I'm not. I 650 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: have never gone on only fans or been on so 651 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how much they show. I mean, I 652 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: do know there's some celebrities that are on it, like 653 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: Cardi B that this shows no nudity, Ziggy and and 654 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: Bella Thorne, so I know that Cardi really uses this platform. 655 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Bella Thorne has racy content okay, but not nudity. There 656 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: is uh a girl Miya Khalifa that one shows nudes. Yes, 657 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: she is an adult film starng she had six million 658 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: dollars a month. That's porn. 659 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: We have only fans is porn listen in that case, 660 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: she's getting six million dollars. 661 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: What do you think for sa toes, I don't know. 662 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding me? I don't know. 663 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: Alexia for six million dollars a month, I might put 664 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: on a brazier and even show a nipple. 665 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,239 Speaker 2: No, I won't. You might. 666 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: We have to rethink this. I don't how many kids 667 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: I can do that. 668 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: You can do it? Listen, I don't know if anybody 669 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: wants to listen. That's why God gave me kids to 670 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: keep from making mistakes like that. No from no for real, 671 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: because I always put myself in that situation. Your life 672 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: is a lot different when you don't have children. But 673 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: what example is Tory spelling, you know, setting for five children? 674 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: She's boys and girls. Yeah, that's right, So it changes everything. 675 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: So you know, if she does that, Candy's not not 676 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: only not going to give her money, She's never even. 677 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: Gonna talk to her again. Forget it, right? Yeah, I 678 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: mean but not even not. I like, I wouldn't even 679 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: care so much about mom. It's kind of like what 680 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: makes you feel good and bad? And her mom's got 681 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: the money. See. I like how Cardi uses it. By 682 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: the way, besides that, I'm a Cardi b fan. I 683 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: like how Cardi uses it, because it's pretty much she 684 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: communicates them more with her audience, with her fans. You know, 685 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: she clears things up because they talk a lot of 686 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: shit about Cardi. So she uses it to say whatever 687 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: she wants, to clear up the rumors and just to 688 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: have like that connection. And people love her. People are 689 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: obsessed with her. 690 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean they must love her because she's making nine 691 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: point five million dollars a month clearing up gossip. Good 692 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: for her, that's what we can do. 693 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's probably my niche because I 694 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: need to clear a lot of shit up that I can't. 695 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Waited to anyway, we take gossip for ourselves and then 696 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: go clear up. 697 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: Hey, Cardi, do you need a co host? 698 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: See everybody's host? Oh my god? 699 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so you see. I like how Cardi uses it, 700 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: and then tell me Ki Musk. 701 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: Coco Austin makes a nine million dollars a month. That's ice, 702 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: the one that's ice. I see, bro. She goes to 703 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: everywhere cover with her boobies. It's true. 704 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for her changes nothing, just making nine million 705 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 2: a month. Wow. 706 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Wow. I want to know how much the owners of 707 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: OnlyFans have make because that's the money I want to 708 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: be talking about. I mean, it's kind of like, think 709 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: about it, it's kind of like soft porn. And even 710 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: like there's i mean, Instagram is getting. 711 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: Really like racy, like uh huh sexy, like a little 712 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: bit too much as well, So it's kind of like 713 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: soft porn. Like these guys talk about midlife crisis. Do 714 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: you blame them they're going through middle life crisis because 715 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean they go on their Instagram and they're like, 716 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: by the way, I have midlife crisis. 717 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: Well, somebody's paying these girls. It must be all those guys. 718 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Of course. 719 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: It's like they want another life because they're like exposed 720 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: to it on the phone all day long seeing this. 721 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: Oh wait I can have this? 722 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah god, this is really good money. Bella Thorne eleven 723 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: million a month. 724 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: Isn't Bella Thorne like a very renown actress? She is. 725 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 2: She's like kind a bunch of shows. 726 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but she's got racy contact. 727 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: The owner's worth two billion. 728 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: That's just so poor than Jo doesn't make sense if 729 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: people are making nine to eleven million off of him. 730 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: You know those numbers are incorrect, They're all manipulated. Yeah, yeah, 731 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I feel like these numbers are inflated. It doesn't make 732 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: any sense. No, I mean for some. 733 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: People, you know, it could, But I think you have 734 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: to have something different right than everybody else because how 735 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: many asses and how many tips, Like, at the end 736 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: of the day, they're all the same. 737 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: Okay, So wait, I want to know, has there ever 738 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: been a time in your life that you took a 739 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: job probably something you wouldn't have normally taken to sport 740 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: you or your children. No, me either. 741 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: You know, I was a school teacher. I was a 742 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: single mom. I got to do all that. What I 743 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: would do to make extra money on the side, I 744 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: would tutor. I would tutor, I would work in the summers, 745 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: summer school. You know, I got my masters, I would 746 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: get paid more because I was in a curtical shortage 747 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: area of exceptional education. So you know, I did all 748 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: those things, you know, And I was looking into like pharmaceutical. 749 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Sales, you know. Yeah, that was the jam back in 750 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: the day. 751 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: And I had just gotten hired, you know, so it 752 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: was like and I also was looking to get certified 753 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: in leadership so I can be an administrator and be 754 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: a principal. So there's so many options. You know that 755 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: you can do. So nothing like like this ever came. Well, 756 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 2: first of all, I didn't exist. I can't imagine got it, 757 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: did it? 758 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: It was a principle? Why not so good? 759 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, I know I'm a leader, you know, I like 760 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: un that school. 761 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually I can, but like it's it. I don't know. 762 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I never saw a principle that looked like you, 763 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: so that would be weird. First, everyone would be in love. 764 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: I love my principle, which by the way, nobody ever says, yeah, 765 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: my principle. 766 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: So but I really do like love students, like I mean, 767 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, I like, there were so many things 768 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: that I would that you could do, you know, and 769 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: not this. This is the easy way out. This is 770 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: the wrong message that they're showing young girls and boys. 771 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: It's just like easy money and it just goes against 772 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: all my morals and principles. 773 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: And that's just me. 774 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but listen, I respect that for people 775 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: that it works for. 776 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: And I feel like now that there's so many celebrities 777 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: on the site that it doesn't feel the celebrities. Can 778 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: you name them, Denise Richards, Well, we just named a bunch. Okay, 779 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: they're making a lot of money when it was just 780 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: regular people and it was a lot of Marisol. How 781 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: many people are in this world? Okay, you named five celebrities. Okay, 782 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: that's nothing. Okay, is Jennifer Aison on that? 783 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 2: No? 784 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: Isn't it? 785 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: Cole Kidman there? 786 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: No, is Blake Lively there? 787 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: No? I mean, who are the people you're mentioning? 788 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: A lot of money? 789 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, solved and you know what they can 790 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 2: do another TV roles. 791 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: It's starting to get a little more normalized now that 792 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: a lot of For me. 793 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: It's never going to be. You know, there's a lot 794 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: of things that are normalized in throughout the world right now, 795 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: society that are not knowing my life. 796 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Saying that doing porn on there and being naked is cool, but. 797 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: They're getting paid that bait. So they're gett paid that 798 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: million dollars or less. 799 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Other things people do on there and they make money 800 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean they make it a million a month. 801 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: But it's getting a little more, you know, engrowth ingratiated 802 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: in our culture. More people are. 803 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: Doing this and they know what sells shocking. Nobody cares 804 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 2: about a cookie show and OnlyFans. You know, what people 805 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: care about tits, ass and sex. That's what people care about. 806 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 807 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: It's just like a big note for me. It's getting you, 808 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: on the other hand, seems to be really intrigued by 809 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 2: it and. 810 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: Really talk about those kind of numbers. 811 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd rather have less money and just 812 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, feel good about myself. 813 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I would never do anything that didn't make me feel good, 814 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: that's for sure. I'd have to be able to lay 815 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: my head down. 816 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: I can tell you that if a turtleneck is what 817 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: makes you feel good and not showing your boobs, I 818 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: don't think you would be like a candidate. 819 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: For this month. Maybe like a turtleneck and like tights, 820 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: nobody's going to pay you that million dollars. And I 821 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: do like stretching. Stretching your life. Not flexible, did you? 822 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm super flexible. I'm not athletic, but you could be flexible. 823 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: Not athletic, extremely flexible. I'm I don't just splits, but yeah, 824 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't just splits. But do you not remember fran 825 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Carlton from the seventies that she's very funny. No, she 826 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: wasn't funny. She was like she did. She wore a 827 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: unitard and tights with the flower background and did stretching 828 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: on television Channel two. 829 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: Well maybe you can do that. 830 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, your own can listen. There's a market for everything, 831 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: my friend, there really is. Yeah, you know, I wish 832 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: you well, Thank you. 833 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: I help you give me a percent marketing from your 834 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 2: encouragement my career. I actually liked that idea because, you 835 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: know what, everybody loves a comeback, So I feel like 836 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: that could work. Eighties inspired you know, you're very disco. 837 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 2: Seventies you're very disco. 838 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: I love all that show. 839 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: You know, you can have your yeah, working out with 840 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: working out with you doing the stretching, don't wear a 841 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: pany the want of the tights without that panny, no, yeah, 842 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: but you have to give them something. If you want 843 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: to make a nine million you want to go tights. 844 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: Oh maybe I can get some of those Bianca and 845 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: Sorry outfits Kanye's Beyonce girlfriend wife. 846 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's more twenty twenty four, right, take the 847 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, the tights and like a see through turnal 848 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: neckt Yeah, and the headband. Don't forget the head band. 849 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: You gotta wear the head the glitter headband. 850 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: It's all about that. There was a Telegram ceo sperm 851 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 2: donor that has over one hundred kids. 852 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah he beat Tory. Think maybe Tory 853 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: should talk to him? Yeah maybe, yeah, Tory, we need 854 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: to make this introduction. You need to meet the Russian 855 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: origin CEO of Telegram. He's claimed that he has over 856 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: one hundred biological kids. He can thank his lucky star 857 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: as he doesn't need Candy Spellings money because she'd be 858 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: giving him a penny. 859 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: His name is Pavel d. He's the co founder and 860 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: CEO of Telegram. He claimed that he has over one 861 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 2: hundred biological kids in twelve countries. Wo assassinatings. Not about 862 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 2: spreading your seed, he says, I was just told that 863 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 2: I have over one hundred biological kids. How is this 864 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: possible for a guy who has never been married and 865 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 2: prefers to live alone. He then added how it all 866 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 2: started so fifteen years ago a friend of mine approached 867 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: me with a weird request. He said that he and 868 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 2: his wife couldn't have kids due to a fertility issue 869 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: and asked me to donate sperm at a clinic for 870 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: them to have a baby. I laughed my ass off 871 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 2: before realizing that he was dead serious. When he visited 872 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: the clinic to donate sperm, he was informed that he 873 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 2: was high quality donor material that his donation can help 874 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 2: couples across the world. That sounded crazy enough to get 875 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: me to sign up for that sperm donation. Yea god complex. 876 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: So the raw intends to open source his DNA so 877 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 2: that his kids can find each other easily. Of course 878 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 2: they're a risk, but I don't regret having been a donor. 879 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: This shortage of healthy sperm has become an increasingly serious 880 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: issue worldwide, and I am proud that I can be 881 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: part of it to help alleviate it. So one of 882 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: the questions is this isn't narcissistic to donate this much 883 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: because he was told that he has high quality sperm. 884 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: Well, the fact that he believed that he had high 885 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: quality sperm and he decided to make a hundred babies, 886 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: I think he's a bit of a narcissist and as 887 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: a god complex. 888 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what he thinks he has like the super 889 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 2: sperm that the whole world I think, you know what 890 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, what's high quality sperm? 891 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, they probably needed sperm and they make a lot 892 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: of money off of it, and they're like yours is 893 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: really fabulous. I saw him from a mile away. And 894 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: then now there's one hundred babies out there. Well, I 895 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: know that it's a business, and I know, yeah, people 896 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 1: do it because they do get paid for this. But 897 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: in this case, this guy's a billionaire. So he just 898 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: says that he's just doing it to like alleviate, you know, 899 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: the families, and he wants to the stigmatized sperm donation. 900 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: But hadniky overdid it a hundred is a lot? 901 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think he's doing the opposite. 902 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean maybe fifteen, but once you 903 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: passed fifteen, even fifteen's a lot, but once you passed fifteen, 904 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean. 905 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 2: There should be a lot. I mean there should be 906 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 2: a law that you can only give so many babies. Yeah, 907 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's kind of scary. 908 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: Do you remember that gynecologist that was no he was 909 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: a fertility doctor and all of the women that were 910 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,320 Speaker 1: going to the clinic thought they were getting their husband's sperm, 911 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: and he was impregnating them with his sperm. He ended 912 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: up with a lot of kids too. 913 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 2: I don't you know, this is like a crazy thing. 914 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then I think he's the same one 915 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. That was carving his initials on 916 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: people's tummies too. Yeah, there's some weird people out there. 917 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: What would you do if you found out that your 918 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 2: partner was donating sperm. 919 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: Or that okay, so that he was actively doing it, 920 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: or that he had donated and now there's a child 921 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: that we have to. 922 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: Incorporate questions. I mean, just him actively doing Like if 923 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 2: you knew that he had high quality sperm count and 924 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 2: he just wanted like this guy, you know, he wanted 925 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 2: to just you know, I make tribute to society and 926 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 2: to the family's college. 927 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: Mayriso would have been like, okay, whatever, I don't know 928 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: off about it. But right now Steve said to me, 929 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: I have like my kids are so awesome, which they are, 930 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: and why not have more out there? I'd be like, yeah, 931 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea. And you're staying home, 932 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: you're not going anywhere. Yeah. 933 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be okay with it at any time in 934 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: my life. I just believe it. 935 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 1: But if I found out after meeting him that he 936 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: had donated sperm and there was a few children out there, I. 937 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: Would I just don't know. I don't have enough information 938 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: and maybe I should have read about this before. I 939 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 2: don't know what responsibility or how much is it is there. 940 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: It's like once you donated, I thought my understanding it 941 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: was just over. It was just like, okay, you you donated, 942 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 2: there was a transaction. You give me your sperm, I 943 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: pay you for it, and then you never follow through. 944 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 2: You don't know who which family was the one that 945 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: got the sperm. I think that's the way it came 946 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: to life, right, So then how does this this? I 947 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 2: think sounds like a crazy story to me. I think 948 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: he wants to see his work, you know what I mean, like, 949 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 2: show me what. 950 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any rights. He did not know, he 951 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: doesn't know where. I guess since he's opening up this 952 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: DNA thing, maybe it's more for him to for them 953 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: to find him than each other. And as far as 954 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: money and responsibility goes, I think that if you if 955 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: you you want to do any of that, you do 956 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: it because it's a moral responsibility, not because you have to. 957 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: But no, that's not his kid. He gave the sperm. 958 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, you know what I mean. 959 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: You can't go to the families and say now I'm 960 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: responsible for your child. 961 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying so he's 962 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: opening up this DNA testing and I think, oh my. 963 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 2: God, why are we living such crazy time? Because there's 964 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 2: so many crazy people. I can't. 965 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: I think he's just doing that so that they will 966 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: find him, and they will find each other and then he. 967 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 2: Can I think he just wants attention. This is another case, 968 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 2: like nobody knows him. He's another billionaire with a lot 969 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 2: of money, a lot of time in his hands, and 970 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: a lot of craziness in his head. 971 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: And he wants to see those hundred kids. 972 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, they're just fine without you. Yeah, 973 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 2: just let them be with their families and whoever. 974 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, would you want to know about the kids if, 975 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: like say tomorrow, you meet someone love of your life now, 976 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: then afterwards he's like, I did this. 977 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 2: I just found out about it. But you're already together. 978 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: You're in it. This is your guy. 979 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 2: No, No, I mean it doesn't. It wouldn't make a 980 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: difference because, like I said, I think just being a 981 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 2: sperm donor, you don't have any right unless it's together, 982 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 2: like for example, like you know, maybe like the same 983 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: sex marriage, you know, or if your eggs aren't good 984 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: or there's sperm isn't good. You know, as long as 985 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: you're involved and there's communication and you're in it together. Yes, 986 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 2: of course it's your baby and you would want to know. 987 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: But this guy just went to different sperm banks donating 988 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 2: or donated one and then they've made all these donations. 989 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: But like, I mean, why did you donate your Why 990 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 2: did you donate your money instead of your storms? 991 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: Can you please do me that favorite donate your money. 992 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: You're not your sperm kill us some we like money. 993 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: We might get on OnlyFans give us some harmula. Yeah, 994 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 1: it's it's complicated, my friend, it's a lot. Listen, it 995 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: was too much. 996 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: Also were growing up, my friend. 997 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, listen, when there was no internet, we didn't 998 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: know holf the things that were actually going on. 999 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, what, I like the Internet. 1000 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: It's good to know. 1001 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: I don't like social media, but the Internet up to 1002 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: a certain point, and obviously feel different about it, you 1003 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 2: know when the kids are younger. But I think it's 1004 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think it's a good source. 1005 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: So well, let me rephrase that question to you one 1006 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: more time, because I feel like you have a different answer. 1007 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: And you meet somebody you'll get married with. Him. Then 1008 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 1: years later somebody shows up in his life and says, oh, 1009 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: I was the product of a sperm donation you did. 1010 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you want to get to know that child? Because 1011 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: but whose sperm isn't the man. 1012 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: I don't have sperm? 1013 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not yours, Okay. I mean. 1014 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 2: For him, obviously, if it's going to be important for him, absolutely, 1015 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 2: I would totally support that. And if you would want 1016 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 2: to know, you know, who his child is if he 1017 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 2: donated that sperm. But that's what I'm saying, like, I 1018 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: don't know at that point when you donate, I don't 1019 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 2: know what their involvement is. If they just donated and 1020 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 2: the terms and conditions are like, okay, this was a transaction. 1021 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: You're never going to know. 1022 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 2: Where if this baby was even conceived. I mean, you know, 1023 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: God forbid, a lot of things happened, right. 1024 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 1: I think that's how it is at a sperm bank, 1025 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: unless a friend says, hey. 1026 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 2: I need your help, right, That's what I'm saying. If 1027 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: it's like an agreement like that, you know, I totally 1028 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 2: support that because you know, unfortunately there's a lot of 1029 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, couples that can have children naturally. So I 1030 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: totally support whatever makes you happy and works for your family. 1031 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: I totally support it, But I think this is a 1032 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: little crazy for me. 1033 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was excessive Hillis. But I know for 1034 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 1: sure if Steve said to me, hey, you know I 1035 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: was in college. Any little extra money, I went to 1036 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: a sperm bank, and now you know this child has 1037 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: come looking for me, I'm like, oh my god, I 1038 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: gotta see this. I gotta, I gotta. 1039 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 2: I would want no amount of minute. Would that make 1040 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 2: this just lead to right another conversation? So would that 1041 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,800 Speaker 2: really make Steve the dad maybe biological half away, but 1042 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 2: I mean, whatever, father. Imagine that happening to a family. 1043 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 2: You know that then the kid wants to know who 1044 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: the sperm donator was. But the father is really the father, 1045 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 2: not Steep. It wasn't the donor, like you know, it's 1046 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: the father that had the baby with the mom and 1047 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 2: brought up this child and was in the child's life always. 1048 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 2: And now the child that say, turns eighteen and he 1049 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 2: wants to know who the donor was because he has 1050 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 2: obviously the DNA of the donor. It's very confusing and 1051 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: it's very complicated, is the question. No, But I'm just 1052 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: saying that that makes it weird. I mean, don't you 1053 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I feel like that's so 1054 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: offensive and has had for the father. 1055 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: It has a lot of dynamics, just like adoption. I mean, 1056 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: it's someone's always, you know, getting hurt. But I mean, 1057 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: when when you know that you come from something that 1058 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: you don't know, you want to know about it. 1059 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: I would, right, I don't blame the child, but I 1060 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: feel like as long as is there's like some kind 1061 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,360 Speaker 2: of understanding and an educational talk where everybody, you know, 1062 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 2: can be in the same page and kind of like 1063 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 2: understand each other. Yeah, okay, so we couldn't have children, 1064 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 2: so we went to a sperm bank and we got 1065 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 2: the sperm. So this is the donor. That's all he did. 1066 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,439 Speaker 2: But I was the one that brought you into this world. Okay, 1067 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 2: you know I have another question for you. And I'm 1068 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: the one that's taking care of you and raised you. 1069 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: You know, father isn't the one that only has you know, 1070 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 2: biological it's the one who raises you and is there 1071 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: in your life every single day. 1072 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: Right, So, say you had to get a sperm donor. 1073 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're really into this, my friend. 1074 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just I you know, there's a lot of 1075 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: different angles. 1076 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: To there is. It's a very there's very complex. 1077 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: Agree. So if you had to get a sperm donor 1078 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: and you raise, would you tell your child that they 1079 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 1: came from a sperm donor you and your partner had 1080 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: to do that? 1081 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 2: That's a good question. 1082 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I would, unless obviously if they got 1083 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: critically ill and you know you needed to because you 1084 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: need there you know, you wouldn't be a blood match 1085 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 1: or anything because your DNA is different. Well, mother, you know, 1086 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: mother would father would? 1087 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 2: I mean back in the day, So back in the day, 1088 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: I know we wouldn't because you know, we're raised different, 1089 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 2: you know, to keep these things away from our children 1090 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: because we think it was going to cause them pain. 1091 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,839 Speaker 2: So the reason why a lot of our parents didn't 1092 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: discuss certain things with us was really to protect us 1093 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 2: because they didn't want us And first of all, also 1094 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: you have to have an understanding. So it's very complex. 1095 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: It depends would I share this with my kids, maybe, 1096 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 2: knowing what I know today, I probably would because children 1097 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: have access to all this information, so I would want 1098 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 2: them to know for me versus somebody else, or versus 1099 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 2: them doing some kind of research. Or them having some doubt. 1100 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,320 Speaker 2: So I feel like it's a conversation I would have 1101 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: with my husband and the family and maybe try to 1102 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 2: explain it to them as best as we could. And so, yes, 1103 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 2: I would probably have that conversation with them because I 1104 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: feel like there's no secrets today. Yeah, kids find everything out, 1105 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: and I wanted them to hear from me, and I 1106 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: don't think that would change anything. I think they would 1107 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 2: understand that. 1108 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think if it was twenty 1109 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, I probably wouldn't have said anything. But now, Yeah, 1110 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: things are so different now, and it's another thing that's 1111 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: become so normalized. 1112 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 2: And then you don't want them to like resent you 1113 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 2: for that or say why didn't you tell us? You know, 1114 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 2: and it's part of life, you know. Not everybody can 1115 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: you know, has good sperm to have a baby. Not 1116 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 2: everybody has the eggs. So I think it's just part 1117 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 2: of like educating and communicating, just sitting down and having 1118 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 2: like a real talk. 1119 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, I don't think I have another question 1120 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: about that. 1121 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you want? You want a spirm donation? 1122 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 2: I think you want to go to one of those 1123 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: sperm banks. 1124 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: Oh, my days. It's never too late my day, It's 1125 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: never too late. I can't help. 1126 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 2: You can have somebody, you can have somebody. 1127 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh god, you think I'm gonna have a baby now, 1128 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: when when I'm starting to have some real fun. 1129 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 2: I want you to be the baby. 1130 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: I want you. Yeah, yeah, you gotta take care of me. 1131 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: I will, ma'am may I was fun. 1132 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been so much fun. I love being at 1133 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: your house. Thank you having I think we're so much better. 1134 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 2: We're together. Yes, next week we'll be doing it at 1135 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:12,919 Speaker 2: my house. 1136 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: Yes, next week we're going to do the podcast together 1137 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: at your house. I can't wait to say it. I 1138 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: haven't been to your new home yet. Bro, it's got 1139 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: some new digs. Maybe you should take us on a 1140 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: little mini tour. 1141 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 2: I'm not doing not no, now, welcome to my house. 1142 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: Not doing that. I want to keep that private. I 1143 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 2: want to keep that private. Just the background. Okay, thank yours, 1144 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 2: But anyways, until next time, guys, have a great weekend. 1145 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at iPort Forward Podcast. 1146 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 2: Make sure to write us a review and leave us 1147 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: five stars at all a proxima