1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: We can't vaccinate the planet every six months. That is 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: what a man has said an Oxford vaccine scientists who 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: actually helped come up with the Oxford astra zeneca COVID 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine. That is a headline you will not hear 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: about probably anywhere else, because it is the inconvenient truth 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: that they don't want you to know about. Now, let 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: me give you a quick reminder. We need your help. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: If you would, please make sure that you share this 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: podcast on social media, hit that little sheer button. 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We can't 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: vaccinate the planet every four to six months. We just 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: can't do it. It's not sustainable and it's not affordable. 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: He said, Professor Andrew Pollard, the director of the Oxford 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Vaccine Group and the head of the UK's Committee on 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Vaccination Immunization, did this sounded the alarm? In a Daily 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Telegraph interview, Powoud also stressed the need to target the 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: vulnerable going forward, rather than administering doses to everyone ages 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: twelve and older doesn't make sense. He says more data that. 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: He also said his need to ascertain quote whether when 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: and how often those who are vulnerable in the additional doses. 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Powart also said he thought further evidence was needed before 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: offering a fourth COVID shot to people in the UK. 31 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: So this is a guy who actually helped create the 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: astra Zeneca, the Oxford astra Zeneca COVID nineteen vaccine, and 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: he is a doctor as an expert with vaccines, is 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: now saying we need further evidence before offering a fourth 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen shot to people in the UK, which is 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: obviously where he is. That would mean we need further 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: evidence before offering a fourth COVID shot in the United 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: States of America, or for that matter, anywhere in the world. 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: The UK is doing exactly what we're doing here in America. 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: They are rolling out their third shot, the booster shot. 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: They're doing it though at a higher age group than 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: we are doing in America. They're only doing it to 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: help the people eighteen older, in other words, adults. They 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: have added at risk people sixteen and older to that list, 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: but only if you are at risk meaning autoimmune deficiencies, 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: things like that. How strongly does this leading expert who 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: helped create the Oxford Astrosinica COVID nineteen vaccine feel about 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: the alarm that he's sounding. Not only did he do 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: a tell all interview with a Daily Telegraph, but he 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: did a separate interview with Sky News. And in that 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: separate interview with Sky News, Paula also cited the glaring 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: unevenness of vaccine rollouts across the world is one of 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: the big problems. He said, and again this is the chair. 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: He is the chair of the j CVI. He is 55 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: a professor, a senior professor, And he said COVID currently 56 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: poses a low risk to most people who have been vaccinated. Now, 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: this interview is an interview that the whole world should see, 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: and there's a reason why they don't want you to 59 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: see it. In fact, he said something that the rest 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: of the sky is falling. World wants to make sure 61 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: you don't hear and what is that? It is this 62 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: He said that COVID risk is low now for most people. 63 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Let me say that again. COVID is now low risk 64 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: for people. Now. I've got part of this audio and 65 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: I want to play it for you of this interview, 66 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: because it's that important that people hear the truth from 67 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: a guy who helped create the vaccine as he has said. Basically, 68 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: they're getting it wrong. I know because I helped create 69 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: this and this is going too far and we need 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: to slow down. Director of the Oxford Vaccine Group and 71 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Chairperson of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization, Professor 72 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Sir Andrew Pollard. Great to talk to you today at 73 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Sir Andrew, It's been an extraordinary twelve months, hasn't it, 74 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: in the life of both COVID and the Astra Zeneca vaccine. 75 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: What have we learned? Well, I think it as you say, 76 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: it's been a quite extraordinary a year that we've just 77 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: been through. From this time last year when we were 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: just starting rollout of vac scenes with a lot of 79 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: uncertainties still about how long it would take it to 80 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: start to bring the pandemic under control. But I think 81 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: on that day last year, I certainly felt that that 82 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: was the beginning of the end of the pandemic. Clearly, 83 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: as the year's gone on, we've seen the most remarkable 84 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: rollout of vaccine's not just the Oxford vaccine, of all 85 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: of them around the world, with now around nine billion 86 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: doses that have been distributed, and the most incredible impact 87 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: on the pandemic, so that we're in a very much 88 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: better place today than we were. We're today, we're very 89 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: large numbers of cases in the community, but still very 90 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: good control of severe disease as a results of vaccination. 91 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: They've been extraordinary. Are you worried they we're becoming a 92 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: little complacent. No, I don't think we are being complacent 93 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: at all. Actually, I mean we're today in a situation 94 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: where there's very good monitoring, much better than it was 95 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: before globally, trying to understand how best to make sure 96 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: that everyone in the world is protected as well as 97 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: is possible. And now we're in this new period of 98 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: transition to work out now that there's very high levels 99 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: of immunity in countries like ours, how do we transition 100 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: to a situation where society is open and we maintain 101 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: protection of the vulnerable in the population. And that is 102 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the programs that have been happening over the last few 103 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: months with the doses being given and trying to manage 104 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: the number of cases so that the NHS is protected. 105 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: But as we go forward into the year ahead, working 106 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: out better how to live with the virus is going 107 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: to be the critical next up. Did you notice what 108 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: he just said there? We have to learn how to 109 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: live better with the virus. He is conceiving that we're 110 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: not going to beat COVID anytime soon. And this is 111 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: a guy that came up with a vaccine. This is 112 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: the guy that's creickly giving medical advice, not advice based 113 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: on financial profit. This is why people don't want you 114 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: to hear this interview. This is why they don't want 115 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: you to see this interview. This is why last night 116 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: on the mainstream media, right after this guy talked, I 117 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: immediately turned on the news to see if anybody was 118 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: covering this, and nobody was. Nobody was covering this because 119 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: this is the conversation that none of them want to have. 120 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: He's conceding that the truth is the reality is we 121 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: need to start taking care of the most vulnerable among 122 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: us first and figure out the science about how to 123 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: most best protect them. That we need to stop this idea, 124 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: this insane that if everybody gets vaccinated, we're going to 125 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: get some sort of heard immunity from this. Because he 126 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: said the world will never get there. He's saying, it's 127 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: foolish to think that we can vaccinate the entire world, 128 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: which is the only way to control this. And if 129 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: you don't believe me, look at where this started in 130 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: a Wuhan lab of virology, and then it got out 131 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: of that lab, and now the entire world has been affected, infected, 132 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: and the entire world's population has had death and destruction. 133 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Look at where when you have omicron, where it started 134 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: right South Africa, where we serve at first, all this 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: pop look out quickly the rest of the world got it. 136 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Delta variant. The list goes on and on, and I 137 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: may have gotten that wrong with delta omicron. I apologize. 138 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: You get my point. These things keep popping in one place, 139 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: they spread the world faster than we even know it's spreading, 140 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: and then once we figure out that it's spreading a 141 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: new variant, it's too late. Can you shut down a 142 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: lockdown the entire world, and definitely no. Can you take 143 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: away people's freedoms and definitely forever that's the goal of 144 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: this government, clearly under Biden. But his point is no. 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: And he's saying it because it's medical. He's saying this 146 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: because he's a a man that understands vaccinations, and he's 147 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: saying it's impossible to do this. This This is a 148 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: guy who helped make the Astroxenica vaccine. Take a listen 149 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more of what the processor had to say, 150 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: just saying, I'm tired of this unrealistic behavior in the world, 151 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the unrealistic idea that we can vaccinate everyone worldwide and 152 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: somehow beat this thing. We got to worry to live 153 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: with it. You mentioned third dose, or of course Country 154 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Light Israel, they're already doing fourth doses. Do you foresee 155 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: a position where we are going to be pretty much 156 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: getting jabbed every six months or so. Well, it's just 157 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: not from a global perspective, affordable, sustainable, or deliverable to 158 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: give fourth doses to every on the planet every six months. 159 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: And remember that today a less than ten percent of 160 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: people in low income countries have even had their first dose, 161 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: So the whole idea of regular fourth doses globally is 162 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: just not sensible. Now. It may be that as the 163 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: science of oles that we can work out who the 164 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: most vulnerable are in populations and target future booster to 165 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: those individuals to maintain their protection. But for the vast 166 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: majority of people who are vaccinated, the risk now is 167 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: extremely low of severe COVID those who have had three doses, 168 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: and it's likely that we'll reach a point where we're 169 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: focusing those booster doses on those who most need them, 170 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: And of course at this moment, we don't know what 171 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: that looks like. Does that mean that we need updated 172 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: vaccines each year like we do with flu, we just 173 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: use the same vaccines for boosters. We need more data 174 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: to make those decisions. And in terms of those who 175 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: haven't had vaccinations, there has been a lot of misinformation 176 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: out there. How frustrating is it for you, as a 177 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,359 Speaker 1: scientist who's been hugely involved in the science of vaccination 178 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: all your life to see some of the stuff that 179 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: is repeated, usually online, And what impact do you think 180 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: this has had? Has it actually caused people to die 181 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: who might not have died, Well, there's no doubt that 182 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: anything which makes people uncertain more hesitant about being vaccinated, 183 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: particularly those who are invulnerable groups, that puts their life 184 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: at risk. And we've definitely seen the effects of some 185 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: parts of the commentary, some of the misinformation, which have 186 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: had a major impact on people's confidence in vaccination. By 187 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: the way, this may be the guy that I trust 188 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: the most right now with COVID nineteen seriously, because he 189 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: seems to be being incredibly intellectually honest about the vaccine, 190 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: the power of the vaccine, the limits of the vaccine. 191 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: And he's the guy that helped make the vaccine, the 192 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Oxford astros in a vaccine. This is a guy that's 193 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: been doing vaccines his entire life. It's his life's work. 194 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: When he just said misinformation is bad and explains it 195 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: the way he's explaining it, I'm okay with it. I 196 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: like that we have a doctor that helped create the vaccine. 197 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: It's saying you have to understand the vaccine is not 198 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: a silver bullet. Now, it's very clear we have to 199 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: learn to live with this. We need to make sure 200 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: that we are protecting and taking care of the most 201 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable with autoimmune and other things like that. Autoimmune issues 202 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: we need to take care of the elderly. That needs 203 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: to be our focus. We need to do what we 204 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: can for those that do need help. In these ways, 205 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: he's not trying to sell you more vaccines. Now. I 206 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: don't know if he has any financial stake or interest 207 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: in the AstraZeneca COVID nineteen vaccine based on the way 208 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: he's talking. Even if he does, he doesn't seem to 209 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: care because he's not saying that we need boosters the 210 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: fourth time. He's saying, we need to do some research 211 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: after the third one. And you heard what they were 212 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: talking about in Israel. Israel has got one of the 213 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: highest vaccination rates, if not the highest, in the world. 214 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: It's not working there either, folks. And what I mean 215 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: by working is it's not like they're getting rid of COVID. 216 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: COVID is still alive and well, unfortunately in Israel. Because 217 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: we are a global economy and everybody knows it. We 218 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: are a global economy. And as long as people can fly, 219 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: as long as people can go from city to city, 220 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: state to state, country to country on a regular basis, 221 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: which is exactly what we are witnessing, then this is 222 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: what is going to continue to happen. You are going 223 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to see new variants and they're going to spread, and 224 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: many times they will spread before we even know it 225 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: is spread to different cities and states, and once that happens, 226 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: it's game over. I cannot tell you how refreshing this is. 227 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how happy it makes me that 228 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: we are hearing somebody who is a medical expert in 229 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: the medical community saying this. I cannot tell you how 230 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: amazing this moment is. And there is a reason why 231 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: the White House and the reason and why the media 232 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: is not covering this. This should be breaking news worldwide, 233 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: breaking news. One of the dudes that made one of 234 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: the vaccine that at Oxford asters in, an expert and vaccinations, 235 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: is saying, pump the brakes on a fourth shot. We 236 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: need research. He's sounding the alarm that the idea that 237 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: we can vaccinate our way out of this problem every 238 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: four to six months is impossible. He's saying it is 239 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: not sustainable. So we need to learn to live our 240 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: lives with this. By the way, I'm in favor of 241 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: misinformation being called out as misinformation. I know a lot 242 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: of people personally that are not getting vans because of 243 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: videos by people claiming to be doctors online that are 244 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: actually not doctors right there, they're chiropractors. They refer to 245 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: themselves as doctors. And videos online that have been sent 246 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: around to people, and I know people are like, well, 247 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: there's a group of doctors and they're all dcs. They're 248 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: all chiropractors, never been in medical school a single day 249 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: in their life, many of them not even taking science 250 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: classes in their entire life. I love chiropractors. I go 251 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: see one, but they're not doctors. They're not medical doctors. 252 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: They don't have an MD, they didn't go to med school. 253 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: And the fact that people get and that's misinformation. That's 254 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. And I think that is what 255 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: he's talking about. Now here's the other thing about this guy. 256 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we had a guy like that 257 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: giving out this country about the vaccine what it would do. 258 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Can you imagine instead of doctor Fauci and Collins and 259 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: all these others, imagine if that was the guy leading 260 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: the charge. I can't, I cannot imagine how many more 261 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: people would have vaccine if we had someone as level 262 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: headed as this guy instead of his polarizing, in psychotic 263 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: as doctor Fauci is. I think America and the rest 264 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: of the world right now is begging for honesty when 265 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: it comes to vaccines. They're begging for honesty from those 266 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: that understand what's going on with COVID. They're begging for 267 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: some level of transparency. We're not getting that from the 268 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: United States government right now, and we need it. The 269 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: people that are not getting vaccinated are dug in in 270 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: this country, I think on politics more than anything else. 271 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: They're not making a medical decision any longer. They're making 272 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: a political decision, and I understand why, because the left 273 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: to put them in a corner. And when you corner 274 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: an individual or an animal, what do you do? You 275 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: start to fight back. When you started using words like 276 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: mandates and you started saying you can't participate in society 277 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: unless you do what we tell you do, you corner 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: people and they immediately come out fighting, and it's no 279 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: longer about the premise of the argument. It's about you're 280 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: fighting because you cornered me. Listen to this professor, Sir 281 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Pollard, a guy who created COVID nineteen Oxford ASCLNICA vaccine, 282 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: and you listen to the way that he talks about 283 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: COVID and let's just recap it. Imagine what could change 284 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: in this country if this guy was our fauci. Imagine 285 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: if this guy was put on national TV in America. 286 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: Look at what he's selling you right now. Number one, 287 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: the vaccine does help you against serious illness. Number two, 288 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: the vaccine is on a silver bullet. Number three, I 289 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: don't believe we need to be just unlimited boosters, and 290 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: we need to do some real research before we advocate 291 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: for a fourth. Number four, we really need to talk 292 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: about those that are the most vulnerable, and we need 293 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: to start looking at that way. Number five, it is 294 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: impossible to vaccinate the entire world every four to six months. 295 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: And the most important thing he said so far is 296 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: we have to learn to live with us. And what 297 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: that means to me is we have to realize that 298 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: this idea that we locked down every time there's a 299 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: spike is insane. It's unrealistic. It is impossible. That's what 300 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: this dude is saying. That's what he is telling you. 301 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: It is absolutely impossible to accomplish this goal of vaccinting 302 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: the world. It is impossible to think that every time 303 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: something pops that we can just run out there and 304 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: arbitrarily somehow fix this. We can't do it. It's not possible. 305 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: So we need to go back to living our lives. 306 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: We need to be careful and responsible, but we don't 307 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: need to shut down our lives. We've been trying it 308 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: for two years. He also is admitting a level of defeat, 309 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: which I think is amazing to admit because it's an 310 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: important one. We are not going to beat this thing. 311 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: The world's too big, we are too interconnected, and we 312 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: are not going to beat it. We have to learn 313 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: to live with it. We're not going to declare victory 314 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: over it. We're not going to have a day where 315 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: we say we eradicated at any time soon. That to me, 316 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: gives me more hope than anything Fauci's pushing right now, 317 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: because this is at least an honest Take a deep 318 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: breath and relax. I now know the real new normal. 319 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: I now know what reality is. I now feel like 320 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: someone is finally being honest with the world, and he's 321 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: one of the guys that made the vaccine. Principality is 322 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: it's another type of virus that spreads very readily around 323 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: the world. Is there anything you have done differently now 324 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: looking back over the last twelve years, because yes, you've 325 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: been involved in vaccines all this time, but it's been 326 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: unlike anything else in terms of the scale what I 327 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: can do. I mean, major role in twenty twenty was 328 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: in vaccine development, and I think the one thing that 329 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have been able to do 330 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: differently would be to run much larger clinical trials. And 331 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: we couldn't do that, partly because the human resources required 332 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: to do that that we needed at the time, but 333 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: largely just we didn't have the manufacturing capacity to make 334 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: enough doses to run larger trials. And the reason why 335 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: that's so important is if we could have done that, 336 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: we may have had a vaccine a month or two earlier. 337 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: And with ten thousand people dying every day at the 338 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty, it really shows you if you 339 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: can just make a few weeks difference to shave off 340 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: the time it takes to develop VAC and you can 341 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: save many lives around the world. And so I think 342 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: that for me is the biggest thing that if we 343 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: were starting this again, would be to find ways of 344 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: actually having more doses, to run larger trials and get 345 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: an answer quicker during the course. For the last year. 346 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that we have to we should shy 347 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: away from the problem that we've had from a global 348 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: community despective, which has been timely vaccination of vulnerable people everywhere. 349 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: Millions of people have died during twenty twenty one because 350 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: they weren't vaccinated before Big got disease, and many of 351 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: those people died because it didn't have access to the 352 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: equable distribution of vaccines is the other thing which I 353 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: think we really need to think about how to address 354 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: not just for future pandemics, but even today in this pandemic, 355 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: to make sure the people are protected everywhere. Well. By 356 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: the way, the point he's making here, because he's saying 357 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: I made mistakes. We made mistakes. I wish we would 358 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: have done this differently. I wish we would have done 359 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: that differently. This is someone that I can tell has honesty, 360 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: has integrity, and is willing to admit that there are 361 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: things that we got wrong, which, by the way, expected 362 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: people to get things wrong. I expected there to be 363 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: things that we could do differently. There's first time we've 364 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: ever faced as something like this in my lifetime. No 365 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: one was going to get everything right. All the countries 366 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: that have done definitely none of them COVID based on 367 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: the fact that's still here and still prevalent in their countries. 368 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: But he's admitting that there are things that we did wrong. 369 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: But one of the things he's saying is, look, we 370 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: got to do a better job of getting the vaccine 371 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: out to the entire world population. Because if you think 372 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: you're going to be safe in America because you get 373 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: everybody vaccinated, or Israel or any other country or the UK, 374 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: while the other parts of the world have no protection, 375 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna be the ones they're gonna give you a 376 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: new variant which we're not going to be able to fight. Right. 377 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: Where did the last one come from? South Africa? Where 378 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: how many people were talking about they needed more vaccines there. 379 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: They need to get more people vaccinated, right, They needed 380 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, They needed to get vaccinated, and they 381 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: and we didn't have enough vaccines going to that part 382 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: of the world because there wasn't enough money to justify 383 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: sending it there. Right, We wanted to send it to 384 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: a place where we got a lot of cash, and 385 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: we got a lot of cash. We made it. We 386 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: got a lot of money. We made a lot of money. 387 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: We got a lot of cash. This vaccine is a moneymaker. 388 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm not against people making money, but when you're purposely 389 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: and deliberately not sending vaccines other parts of the world 390 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: because they don't have as much money as you have, 391 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: you got to start looking and scratching your head on 392 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: that one too. Have we heard any major health official 393 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: with the United States government say we got it wrong. 394 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: Here's another headline for you. He lies all the time. 395 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: Doctor Robert Malone torches Anthony Fauci claims he has quote 396 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: no integrity viriologists an immunologist, Doctor Robert Malone made it 397 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: clear this week that he was not shocked to see 398 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci present Joe Biden's chief medical advisor making claims 399 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: about the efficiency of cotton or surgical mass that he 400 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: did not believe were true. Malone was recently booted from 401 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Twitter and make claims that he was promo quote misinformation 402 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: about available COVID nineteen vaccines, particularly those that utilize the 403 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: mr NA technology he worked to develop, and he joined 404 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Fox News host Laura Ingram Monday's broadcast of The Ingram Angle. 405 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: Ingram began with a question about Malone's exile from Twitter, 406 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: noting that Congresswoman Jaya Paul, a Democrat from Washington, had 407 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: said over the weekend that Twitter's efforts to silence misinformation, 408 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: and particularly the platform's permanent man of Congressman Major Taylor Green, 409 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: Republican from Georgia, were steps in the right direction, but 410 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: not enough. Doctor Malone, where is his country going when 411 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: an elected official seems to be celebrating a silencing of 412 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: other Americans? She asked, I think you said it. There 413 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: will be a big turnaround mid terms. Where the country 414 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: is going is where Joe Rogan just went from Twitter together, 415 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: Malone replied, and that media doesn't understand that unders is 416 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: that you can't suppress information. It will find a way 417 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: to be free. And we're having new You know, this 418 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: is an example of the positive aspect of American economy 419 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: and innovation. We've had all this suppression and yet we persist. 420 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: People don't tolerate this type of censorship and propaganda that 421 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: is being pushed on us. He's right Ingram then asked 422 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Malone to weigh in on a clip from Seeing Him 423 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: Say the Union, during which host Dana Bashi asked doctor 424 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Fauci about the efficiency of cloth or surgical masks, particularly 425 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: with regard to the most recent and highly contagious omicron variant. Quote, 426 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: are cotton and surgical masks effective at preventing the spread 427 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: of omicron? Bashi, asking Fauci, said that they were. Yeah, 428 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: when the CDC says they are effective, In fact, they are, 429 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: Fauci responded Ingram turned back to Malone, asking whether Fauci's 430 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: claims had been a lie, and he said that it was. Quote, 431 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's Tony. What can I say? Tony has 432 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: no integrity, He lies all the time. And I've me 433 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: and my peers have been watching this for decades. Malone said. 434 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: We just shrug our shoulders and shake our heads and 435 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: say it's Fauci now in in ninety five mask tightly 436 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: fitted to the surgeon's face or the health provider's face, 437 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: A tightly fitted mask that can prevent transmission of virus 438 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: is correct. But who can wear a tightly fitted medical 439 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: grade mask? Certainly not a two year old on a flight. Yes. 440 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: And the thing is with omicron is that it has 441 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: a reproductive coefficient. And that is fancy medical epidology talk. 442 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: But it's a reproductive coefficient, which is a measure measure 443 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: of ineffectiveness. It's in the range of measles. It's in 444 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: the seven to ten range. We are all going we 445 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: are all going to get infected. Probably the only ones 446 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: that won't some degree of symptoms from this in the 447 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: United States are going to be those that have natural immunity, 448 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: and still a fraction of those are going to get 449 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: infected as well. Now this doctor is saying exactly what 450 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: the doctor who came up with this Oxford astrogenica vaccine saying, 451 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: We're not gonna stop this. We need to learn to 452 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: live with it. Stop telling the people in the world 453 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: and stop giving them this lie that if you get 454 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: vaccinated and boosted that somehow we're gonna beat this thing. 455 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to learn to live with it. Please 456 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: take our podcast and share it so that other people 457 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: can hear this. Because once we all get our head 458 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: around this idea that this thing is here and it's 459 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: going to be here for a long time, and that 460 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to vaccinate our way out of this, 461 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: and you start talking honestly about omicron and every other 462 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: variant that's coming, and you talk about this idea that's 463 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: impossible to fix this with boosters every four to six months, 464 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: that this is not feasible from the guy who helped 465 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: make the vaccine. The faster we're gonna learn to live 466 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: with this, and the faster we're gonna learn to deal 467 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: with it in a way that makes sense and doesn't 468 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: destroy society. Please make sure you share this with other people, 469 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: all right. I gotta also transition to something else that 470 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: is really important that I want you to hear about, 471 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: and that is the Billback Better Plan, and also this 472 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: debacle with testing and having lack of COVID nineteen tests 473 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: for people in this country. Joining me now to talk 474 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: about this a man that's been fighting the Billback Better 475 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: Plan because it's nothing but a waste of trillions of 476 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: your tax dollars. And also, we passed a bill I 477 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: want to remind you that was supposed to deal with 478 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: COVID and was supposed to deal with testing. So the 479 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: question now is why didn't we have enough tests us? 480 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: Senator Bill Haggerty joins me now to talk about all 481 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: of this. Senator, the good news is that's coming out 482 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: right now is that Senator from West Virginia, Democrat Joe 483 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Manchin looks to be standing firm and saying he's going 484 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: to kill the Billback better plan. He actually said, quote, 485 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: it is deader than ever. Your thoughts on his statement, Well, 486 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: it certainly seems to be dead right now. The negotiations, 487 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: particularly according to Mansion, are dead in the water. You know, 488 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: when people have had the opportunity to stand back and 489 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: look at this. And I'll take you then all the 490 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: way back to August when I stopped the so called 491 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: infrastructure bill. They tried to pass that in the dead 492 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: of night. They're going to let us find out what 493 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: was in a twenty seven hundred page bill after we 494 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: passed it. That's the way Chuck Schumer wants to manage 495 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: things in the center. Let's pass it to find out 496 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: what's in it. But as the American public has at 497 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to find out what the Democrats are really 498 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: planning to do, they've turned out to be very very 499 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: obset with the Democrats plan. Their vision for America is 500 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: so different than the Republicans vision for America. Republicans want 501 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: to put Americans and control their lives and control of 502 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: their families. The Democrats want to put the federal government 503 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: full of everything, and they want to use the irs 504 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: to basically run our lives. As the public found out, 505 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: what was in this build back better vill They found 506 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: it's not paid for. It's going to add three trillion 507 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: dollars more to the US deficit. That's when you take 508 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: out all the budget gimmicks that they're using to change 509 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: the top line number. What the American public got to 510 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: see was again more Democrat cookery, pouring fuel onto a 511 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: burning fire. When you look at the inflation that we're 512 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: talking about, they want to put this debt fuel package 513 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: right into the economy. We got an inflation now at 514 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: a forty year high, and they want to put more 515 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: federal money into the economy. This all started when Biden, 516 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, when they pushed the March so called COVID 517 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: relief package back in March at one point nine trillion 518 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: dollar package with zero Republican votes. They shoved that into 519 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the economy. At the time, the economy was already improving, 520 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: and they set off this massive inflation. That's that's hurting 521 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: every American right now. So the public has had an 522 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to see what's in it, and and I think Joe 523 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: Mansion is right. I think the negotiations are as dead 524 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: as they can be. And as the public has found 525 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: out about this stuff, isn't back in home districts. I 526 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: think a lot of Democrat lawmakers got to get an 527 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: earful of that. Women went home over Christmas. I was 528 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: gonna say, usually when you go home over Christmas, if 529 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: you're a congressman or center, you go back, you do 530 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: a couple events. Right, You've had an excuse not to 531 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: do as many events because of COVID nineteen and omicron surge. 532 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: But you're still hearing from people, and it's very clear 533 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: that Democrats are very fearful. And I don't want to 534 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: become over confident. I always tell people that's the worst 535 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: thing you can do getting ready for an election. But 536 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: it does look like the Democrats are certainly in serious trouble, 537 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: just with another the number of resignations from Congress and 538 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: seeing Democrats like Joe Mansion West Virginia that are like, dude, 539 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I can't do this. Like this is people are not 540 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: gonna go with this. My constituents are gonna have I'll 541 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: have hell to pay. Sorry, Joe Biden, this is not 542 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna help me keep my job or help me get reelected. 543 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: And you need to understand this. So now you have 544 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: phase two, and phase two seems to be well, we'll 545 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: just slam this thing down your throat piece by how 546 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: do we stop that? Well, I think there's a very 547 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: good chance that they will attempt that. But again, these 548 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: policies are so poorly drafted. They are avoiding the normal 549 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: process in the Senate, which would force them to go 550 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: through a committee that's designed as a full staff to 551 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: vet these proposed laws, to vet this legislation and to 552 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: make certain they are unintended consequences. Instead, what they're going 553 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: to try to do is probably break it up and 554 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: again shove it through this completely partisan way where it 555 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: gets drafted in the basement of Chuck Chumer's office, not 556 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: through the normal process of the Senate. We have yet 557 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: to see any text on the Republican side of this. 558 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: Build back better. We're just trying to draw it out. 559 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: What happened over in the House of Representatives. This is 560 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: the way they've been operating. Again, pass it to find 561 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: out what's in it, and I think they're going to 562 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: have the very same problems, even if it's in a 563 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: small dose. But we're going to have to be when 564 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: I say, wait, the Republicans here are going to have 565 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: to be ever diligent to stand up to fight this, 566 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: to push back at every turn, and not to let 567 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer use the calendar and other gimmicks to sort 568 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: of shoved this through in the dark of night. I 569 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: want to move to something else real quick, and that 570 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: is you had this abmission, this you know, moment right 571 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: before the end of the year where Joe Biden said 572 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: that it's the federal government is not going to solve 573 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. There was a lot of conservative commentators that 574 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: celebrated that moment, and I said, screamed very loud on 575 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: the show, do not take that bait. I think what 576 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden understood is one thing. If you let states 577 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: do what we're trying to do, they're going to be 578 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: more successful on the state level with extreme lockdowns, vaccine mandates, 579 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: vaccine passports, taking away kids' rights, forcing vaccines on children 580 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: to be able to go to school or be able 581 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: to be eligible for extra crickear activities. And I said 582 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: to people, this was not a dumb play by Joe Biden. 583 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I think he was signaling to the states, you guys 584 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: need to take this further than I can, because I'm 585 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: going to keep getting slapped down by the court system. 586 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: But you guys will have more success like places like 587 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: New York City and San Francisco and others. I think 588 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: this is far from over. Democrats going for ultimate power 589 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: and control over literally owning your children like they are 590 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 1: government property in schools. Then I think you're exactly right. 591 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: And if you go back to well before the Afghanistan crisis, 592 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden had already said this wasn't the realm for 593 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: the federal government. He knew it before he forgot it 594 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: when his numbers went in the tank after the disgrace 595 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and they put this mandate out. It certainly 596 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: did work. It changed the news attention. The headlines moved 597 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: away from Afghanistan and that crisis to the federal lockdown. 598 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: But I think they've known for a long time that 599 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: the federal government doesn't have the solution to this, And 600 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. This is the way America is designed 601 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: to work, the laboratories of the democracy in our fifty states. 602 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: That's certainly the way we like things in my home 603 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: state of Tennessee, and we've done a good job managing 604 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: our states. That's why so many people are moving to 605 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee from these blue states have such disastrous policies. But 606 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: I think you're also exactly right. But they will continue 607 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: to try to show their leftist policies through in these 608 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: blue states and that they're better equipped to do it. 609 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: Just as you said. Then, at the state level, Joe 610 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: Biden has also blamed now states trying to act like 611 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: it's not his fault that we have a massive amount 612 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen testing shortages. He's now blaming states for 613 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: not having enough tests at first schools, and he said 614 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: that look, if your school is experiencing corona testing coronavirus 615 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: testing shortages, that's the fault of your state. How did 616 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: he get it so wrong on testing? How did FAUCI 617 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: get it so wrong on testing? The CDC, Collins, everybody involved, 618 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: and not have enough tests to deal with this spike 619 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: and a new variant that we all knew was going 620 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: to happen. It was very clear the world was not 621 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: beating COVID nineteen. We knew it was going to morph 622 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: again in another time and another time, probably another time. 623 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: How did they get this so wrong? And now they're 624 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: just pointing figured the states and they're being let off 625 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: the hook by the media. Well, again, they always look 626 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: for a scapegoat, and the media is more than accommodating 627 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: or Joe Biden the Democrat Party. But I'll say this, 628 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: so let's go back at the one point nine trillion 629 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: dollars packets that they passed in March that was supposedly 630 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: a quote pandemic relief package, yet only nine percent of 631 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: it had anything to do with the pandemic or hospitals 632 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: or healthcare. They have been date in switching the American 633 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: public all along using the pandemic as their excuse. If 634 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: you add up all of the dollars that have been 635 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: allocated to doing just this, dealing with test and getting 636 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: the proper ppe and equipment into place, eighty two billion 637 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: dollars have been passed out of the Congress to deal 638 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: with this. They have misused the funds. They are more 639 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: focused on their social programs and transforming America than anything else. 640 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: And I think what we need is a complete audit 641 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: of what's been done to this point. We need to 642 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: hold people like Founci to account. They have again done 643 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: a terrible job of doing their primary responsibility, that's taking 644 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: care of the American people. And this is yet another 645 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: failure that every citizen, every taxpayer is looking at when 646 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 1: they go to get a test, can't find one long 647 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: lines everywhere. In fact, they're probably contaminating one another of 648 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: their concern to go to get a test. I'm sure 649 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: this is causing people who think twice about even being tested. 650 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Now a complete backfire again because they have not implemented 651 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: the policies as they were at least advertised. They're using 652 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: this again and a lot of people send to forget this. 653 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the money that bill, and I want 654 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: to expanding this a little bit because you were fighting 655 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: hard against this bill because ninety percent of the bill 656 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with COVID. That bill costs taxpayers. Again, 657 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: how much money one point nine trillion dollars and how 658 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: much money have you been told or heard from this 659 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: administration is what we would need to spend to get 660 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: enough tests so that we wouldn't have this problem we're 661 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: dealing with literally right now. Well, there was over thirty 662 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: billion in that most recent package. Again, that was a 663 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: completely democratic design package that would have dealt with this 664 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: in its entirety. Of course, it hasn't been properly spent, 665 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been properly utilized. And if you add up all 666 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: of the expenditures that have been appropriated through the Congress, 667 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: that adds up to over eighty billion dollars. So they 668 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: again advertise one thing, but then deliver something quite different. 669 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: The mismanagement that has happened while having not only a vaccine, 670 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: but also having the finances needed to pay for virtually 671 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: anything you want to deal with with COVID nineteen, and 672 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: the fact they still can't get it done when it 673 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: comes to basic testing, there has to be some sort 674 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: of accountability. Is there any way that you guys in 675 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Congress can hold them accountable for the mismanagement the funds? 676 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned an audit, but is there a 677 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: way to shine a light on the fact that this 678 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: wasn't an accident of the states, as Joe Biden just mentioned, 679 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: It's not an accident of the school It's not the 680 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: fault of local school boards. This is a federal government failure. 681 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: Under Biden and under Pelosi and under Schumer. We've already 682 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: started that process of reaching into the Department of Health 683 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: and Human Services to get them to give us a 684 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: full accounting of where these funds have gone. We're going 685 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: to continue to get resistance from them, though as long 686 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: as they control both Houses of Congress in the White House. 687 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: That's why changing the complexion of the Congress in twenty 688 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: twenty two this year, this November is so critical. Ben. 689 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: Once we have control of the House and the Senate, 690 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: we're going to be able to properly deploy our oversight 691 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 1: function and get to the bottom of this, and there's 692 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: going to be held to pay. Lastly, I want to 693 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: get your take on the hostility that's taking place from 694 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: people in government, not just even in this country, around 695 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: the world. There was a shocking quote that the President 696 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: Macaron says he wants to blank off unjabbed by banning 697 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: them from social life with a vaxed passport. We are 698 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: saying this type of arrogance just in America, what we're 699 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: seeing in California, what we're seeing in Michigan, what we're 700 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: seeing in New York. But now you have entire countries 701 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: leadership like France where their president is saying that he's okay, 702 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: he wants to blank people off. He wants to blank 703 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: them off the unjabbed in the country by implementing a 704 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: vaccine pass regimen, saying I really want to blank them off. 705 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: He is what he said, He doubled down on it, 706 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: basically saying, we're gonna have two different groups of people 707 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: in society. We're seeing this now with kids, kids that 708 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: went back to school yesterday, and I've got countless parents 709 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: sending me pictures of their kids who are being taken 710 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: from their classrooms for not wearing masks, and being put 711 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: into cafeterias, into waiting rooms, into hallways and being punished 712 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: until their parents come get them for not wearing a mask, 713 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: going against their parents directive. This seems to be the 714 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: new normal in this country, and now it's happening not 715 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: just here but around the world by some of the 716 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: biggest leaders we know. Then you're touching on something that's 717 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: deeply troubling to Americans, particularly people from my home state 718 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: of Tennessee. You know, go back to Joe Biden's first 719 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: big meeting with so called G seven when he was 720 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: with his European pals and they welcomed him back to 721 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: the club. This is the club that people like the 722 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: French president Acron belong to. They view everybody else as 723 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: a deplorable you know, it'll re Clinton, I think defined 724 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: it well, that's the Democrat Party elites view of the 725 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: rest of the world. But the rest of us are 726 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: all deplorable, and we are exactly the people that they 727 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,959 Speaker 1: depended on, you know, in critical positions during the depth 728 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: of the pandemic, to be frontline workers. Whether it was 729 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: our law enforcement officers, our healthcare workers, the people who 730 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: kept the food on the shelves at the grocery store. 731 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: They depended on us to do all of that, the 732 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 1: front line. That was who they're looking for to help them. 733 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: Many people got the disease then, you know, then they 734 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: want to deny. They want to essentially save you. Don't 735 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: fall in line, do it exactly as we want you 736 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: to do it. We're going to call you again a deplorable, 737 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: You're unworthy, We're going to segregate you. It's it's just 738 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: another another again, egregious, egregious example of the way they 739 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: view most of the world that applorables. There's always I 740 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: appreciate your time in coming on and again, Happy New Year. 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