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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the rash of ACL injuries this year,

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Speaker 2: led by Micah Parsons and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes got hurt,

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Speaker 2: that was contact in the Chargers game. Michaeh Parsons non

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Speaker 2: contact injury. And yesterday the NFL said that they announced

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Speaker 2: they're going to have a study to look at turf

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Speaker 2: and these are new rules or at least a new policy,

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Speaker 2: a new approach to this. And people, I think were

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Speaker 2: surprised at the number of torn acls so far this year.

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Speaker 2: Thirty so far. Now, that seems like a lot, And

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Speaker 2: the reason why it seems like a lot is because

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Speaker 2: there's some big names in here. In twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: there were thirty eight torn acls, twenty twenty three, forty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two point fifty one, twenty twenty one, fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty forty two. You can go back to twenty

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Speaker 2: thirteen there were sixty three torn acls. So it seems

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Speaker 2: like we're trending down. But why can't we come up

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Speaker 2: with universal fields that can prevent at least the non

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Speaker 2: contact injury. So we bring in the head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Chargers, Jim Harbaugh. Those numbers alarming to you, surprising

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Speaker 2: to you. Anything we can do to improve those number

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Speaker 2: of a c ls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that that discussion has been going on

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Speaker 3: for a long time with the UH, with the turf

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Speaker 3: and they and they they're very scientific about it. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know my understanding almost like you know, stint meters

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Speaker 3: in UH in golf. But those numbers to me, I

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Speaker 3: mean it's it. Uh, it's like one a year, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's it's kind of my my recollection from UH, you know,

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Speaker 3: from coaching all these years and and UH and playing

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Speaker 3: as well as about UH one guy and the team

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Speaker 3: will get an a c L. And there was a

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Speaker 3: day where that, uh, that a c L would be

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Speaker 3: career ending. You know, think back then, Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: Gail Sayers and UH and now UH you know it's

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Speaker 3: UH advancements in UH in safety and medical UH. You know,

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Speaker 3: UH are are really incredible and getting getting better all

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 2: But when you were at Michigan, all of your linemen

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Speaker 2: had to wear braces, knee braces.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was that was.

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Speaker 2: And how preventative is that? I know, Jake Buds got

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Speaker 2: hurt and Blake Krum you know, got hurt as well.

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Speaker 2: Those are contact But did it Is it that helpful

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Speaker 2: in preventing a c LS?

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Speaker 3: I thought so, I really did, Dan. Uh, the the

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Speaker 3: running backs, tight ends didn't didn't wear them, but we

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Speaker 3: had the defensive linemen wearing uh knee braces in practice. Uh,

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Speaker 3: and that would Uh it doesn't prevent prevent like a

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Speaker 3: but whatever injury it would have been, it makes it

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Speaker 3: a lot less in in my experience, and uh and

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Speaker 3: uh trainers in the medical experts.

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Speaker 2: What was different about the Chiefs this year as opposed

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Speaker 2: to previous years.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's there's it's just the most the most historic, incredible. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know job that that team has done year in

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Speaker 3: year out. Andy Reid, Uh, you know the best, he's

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Speaker 3: the best. Uh. Patrick Mahomes incredible competitor, And UH that

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Speaker 3: was I was talking to one of our our assistant

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Speaker 3: coaches yesterday, and now we could just do half, We

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Speaker 3: could just do half of what they they've been able

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Speaker 3: to accomplish over the last seven years. You know, we

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Speaker 3: I do it. I know I would do a cartwheel.

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Speaker 2: But what what's the game plan of of Mahomes? He

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Speaker 2: seems like he's running a lot more. He had been

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Speaker 2: running a lot more than in previous years and had

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Speaker 2: been their most dangerous runner. But as a defensive philosophy,

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Speaker 2: what was it going into this game?

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Speaker 3: There? There there's adversity in the offensive line. Uh, different combinations,

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Speaker 3: different different you know, really good players out. But uh

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Speaker 3: they uh guy stepped in and uh they were chiefs

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Speaker 3: are still operating at a at a very high level.

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Speaker 3: And I was, I mean, I was for the competitor

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Speaker 3: that Patrick is. I mean that was was just hope

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Speaker 3: and praying that uh that he would have dodged a bullet,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, unfortunately he didn't. But uh, he's

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Speaker 3: he's already, you know, getting ready for surgery, and you

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Speaker 3: just just know his mindset it's going to be it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be surgery and then and then rehab. He's just

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Speaker 3: he just he's he just he just wants to be

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Speaker 3: doing and so that's uh, really we're trying to replicate

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Speaker 3: that here and in Los Angeles, and uh.

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Speaker 2: What are you trying to force him out of the pocket,

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Speaker 2: because he loves to go right, But I you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's easier said than done that we don't want

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, oh, uh, you know, you try to

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Speaker 3: contain him, you really do that. Uh. The the discipline

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Speaker 3: and he's still and he still finds ways to uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, to make the impossible possible. But uh, it's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It's uh it's our feet are moving. We're up, and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna keep it moving because uh we got Dallas

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Speaker 3: this year this week, and uh, I really think they're

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Speaker 3: the They're the best offense we've played in a while. Uh,

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Speaker 3: really good receivers, really good quarterback. Uh, very good upfront

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Speaker 3: and running game that we're gonna try to figure out

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Speaker 3: how to stop as well.

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Speaker 2: Talking about that, Jim Harbaugh, Chargers head coach, you coach

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Speaker 2: any differently in December than you do in September?

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. You know they all count the same,

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Speaker 3: you know they count the same, but uh, yeah, it's different.

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Speaker 3: It's almost it's like the fourth quarter in a in

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Speaker 3: a game, you know, and then you know, you get

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Speaker 3: down to the to the end and it's you know,

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Speaker 3: then it's it's like like the two minute drill, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the in the in the playoffs, or you know,

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Speaker 3: trying to get into the playoffs. But everybody, everybody is

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Speaker 3: fighting for their lives. Everybody's fighting, you know, really for

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Speaker 3: their their playoff destiny. And and that's and the and

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Speaker 3: the and the teams that aren't don't have a chance

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Speaker 3: to be in the playoffs, they're fighting at the at

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Speaker 3: the highest level. Uh, you know, for pride and for

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Speaker 3: for for their team and for their for their their organizations.

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Speaker 3: It's it's that competitive season. Tis the season for competition.

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Speaker 2: How much does it help playing the position as a

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Speaker 2: head coach, helping Justin Herbert play the position.

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Speaker 3: I've been asked that a bunch of times, and I

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Speaker 3: don't have a great answer for that, because he is

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Speaker 3: just so much better at everything, uh, every every part

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Speaker 2: Uh Is there anything you do better than or did

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Speaker 2: better than Justin Herbert?

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Speaker 3: There's nothing. There's nothing, nothing, And I don't want to

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Speaker 3: demonstrate anything. I mean, it's just not gonna it's not

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Speaker 3: really really focus on uh, you know, number one, protecting

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Speaker 3: him and but it's just, yeah, a tremendous blessing to

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Speaker 3: have him, Derwin, James, Justin, Herbert Khalil Mack. Uh the

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Speaker 3: absolute best leaders I've ever been and playmakers leaders and playmakers,

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Speaker 3: Uh that that I've ever been associated with.

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Speaker 2: You said you were still processing the Sharone Moore situation.

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Speaker 2: What are you processing?

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Speaker 4: What are what?

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Speaker 2: What? What is going through your head or trying to understand?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's uh really still and still don't have

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Speaker 3: my head wrapped around it. Dan, Uh, It's yeah it Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's a tragedy and just praying for all concerned. I

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Speaker 3: love my alma mater, love Michigan, and but I love

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Speaker 3: the Chargers too. And uh, I'd been doing a disservice

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Speaker 3: if I wasn't putting all my focus on the on

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Speaker 3: this game. This is the most important game for us.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time you talked to Sharon Moore?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Have it early early December?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: But I I have texted.

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Speaker 2: Him nothing, nothing since he was arrested, just texts, Oh

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Speaker 2: you have Yeah? How are his spirit?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I think I think there is it's a trgedy.

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Speaker 3: What uh the worst days of his life? And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, keep it together and and uh, and take

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Speaker 3: care of your family. That's you know, that's the message.

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Speaker 3: And I getting spiritual guidance. Uh. You know it's really critical.

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Speaker 2: Are you helping Michigan at all find their head coach?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: All focuses on uh the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Well, congrats on the win, and uh, good luck against

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Speaker 2: Dallas and then you host Houston, then you're at Denver.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best team you face? You talked about Dallas

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Speaker 2: will be the best offense. Who's the best team?

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Speaker 3: So we played definitely uh that we played in a while,

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Speaker 3: you know, right the team that you know stands out, Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know the ones that that uh that got the

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Speaker 3: best of us. But these last two games, chiefs uh Eagles,

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Speaker 3: I mean football at uh, you know, at at the

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Speaker 3: highest level. You know, that's been and I think it's

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's made us keener and

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Speaker 3: sharper and finer too to go through those two games.

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Speaker 3: And uh, and we expect the same challenge this week.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to play in the snow?

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Speaker 3: I prefer the snow then, uh, then thirty five or

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Speaker 3: thirty three in rain? So uh, as soon as soon

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Speaker 3: as the temperature goes below thirty. Uh, I know it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna rain, and uh I prefer that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, but you look at the doll like the dolphins

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Speaker 2: don't win games under forty degrees? Like what how does

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Speaker 2: that imp?

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Speaker 2: There are guys that aren't from Miami, but you know

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Speaker 2: they don't win in cold weather. Why is that?

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Speaker 3: Uh? That's that's Ah, that's something I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 3: I am kind of an expert at uh growing up

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Speaker 3: in uh the Midwest and and Michigan, Ohio, chicage, playing

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Speaker 3: in Chicago. Uh, you know, it's it's really a function

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Speaker 3: of like my dad used to tell us when we

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Speaker 3: were kids. He'd say, you you you, you know, get

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Speaker 3: out of the house, Dan, it's cold out there. Get

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Speaker 3: your feet moving and keep it moving. You'd walk out,

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Speaker 3: and then then the click of the door would click

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Speaker 3: behind you.

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Speaker 2: Uh wait they locked the door.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear the click. Okay, we're our feet moving

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Speaker 3: and keep it moving. But it's that's that's that's the secret.

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Speaker 3: That's the answer. The the you become your body becomes

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Speaker 3: like a human hot tub because your your your heart

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Speaker 3: is pumping warm, hot blood, especially when you're young and

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Speaker 3: you know that goes from the the heart to the arteries,

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Speaker 3: to to the capitillaries, to the to the tissue, and

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Speaker 3: it's you know, the more muscle you got, that's the

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Speaker 3: more UH. That's the more UH insulation that you have.

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Speaker 3: High school anatomy tell it goes back back to the

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Speaker 3: lungs and reaction to eights and it just keeps keeps

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Speaker 3: falling like so you just you just keep moving. And

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Speaker 3: then when you're not playing, you go to the go

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Speaker 3: to the sidelinket by that that heater in that warm bench.

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Speaker 2: Who had it better than you did in cold weather?

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of experience there, nobody.

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Speaker 2: Dan, There you go, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I know the answer to that one.

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Speaker 2: I was worried. I was worried about you there. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining us. Good luck against Dallas. Appreciate it, coach,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan. That's Jim Harbaugh, second year's charge, your

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Speaker 2: He's Joe Thomas, Hall of Famer joining us on the program.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you again. We've been talking about the

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Speaker 2: playing surfaces and the fact that yesterday the NFL says, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to conduct another study here on the playing surfaces.

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Speaker 2: Why are we here where we can't have a universal

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Speaker 6: Well, it just comes back to the fact that the

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Speaker 6: so they're saving every dime they pass we can, Whereas

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Speaker 6: they're not good for players' bodies. And the people that

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Speaker 6: And so I think it's just a matter of those

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Speaker 6: just doesn't have enough power to be able to force

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Speaker 2: Worst playing surface you ever played on.

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Speaker 6: Well, I hated playing in Cincinnati on their old turf

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Speaker 2: As a Hall of Fame lineman, how would you put

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Speaker 6: So until Miles, I don't ever remember watching NFL defensive

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Speaker 6: I don't know how I would have been able to

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you that he kind of took back

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Speaker 6: I was really surprised because I'd talked to him throughout

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Speaker 6: not coming back and it doesn't matter. He's all about

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Speaker 6: trying to win championships. And you know, I go on

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Speaker 6: want to make sure that this is true. What I'm

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Speaker 6: he's frustrated. He's ready to leave, and unless something drastically

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Speaker 2: But the vision didn't change.

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Speaker 4: Joe.

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Speaker 2: This is not a good team. He's not winning anything

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Speaker 2: anytime soon, and maybe not in his career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 6: So I'm trying to tell you that they must have

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Speaker 2: I think they just said, how does forty million dollars feel?

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Speaker 2: We're not going to win anything? Forty million dollars, all right,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I don't need to win.

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Speaker 6: I think it was partly that, but I do think

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're to win a championship. You're going to be

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of it probably honestly had

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Speaker 6: Didn't play well last week against the Bears, but I

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Speaker 6: do amazing things like chase the sack record, and oh,

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Speaker 6: by the way, we're going to invest in our offense.

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Speaker 6: Maybe not year one, but we're going to get it

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Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, you can finish.

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Speaker 6: Your career where you started, which is very rare in

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Speaker 6: like I said, sixty percent was hey, we'll pay a

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Speaker 2: Have you seen enough of Shador Sanders to offer a

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Speaker 4: Not yet.

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Speaker 6: We need to see him the rest of the season.

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Speaker 6: We saw a really great game a few weeks ago

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Speaker 6: where he had over three hundred yards passing. He led

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Speaker 6: least he did the things that you need to do

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Speaker 6: to be a franchise quarterback in the NFL, which is

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Speaker 6: you've got to get the points and the yards that

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Speaker 6: the two minute drill in the fourth quarter. And he

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Speaker 6: was showing steady improvement, but then last week there was regression.

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Speaker 6: And it's a little bit challenging because his offensive lines

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Speaker 6: the football out of the defense, and so it's a

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Speaker 6: little bit difficult to look at everything he's doing out

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Speaker 6: But with the amount of up and down that we've

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Speaker 6: seen so far, you need to see him in these

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Speaker 2: Could you come out of retirement like Philip Ridle, No way.

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Speaker 4: I had my hip orplace in the spring. I'm sore

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Speaker 2: You got him over, you got a new hip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. Hey, there we go. I'm fixed.

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Speaker 6: Let's do the bo Jackson. I'm ready to fix the

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Speaker 6: other one. Fix the knees in the back. Just turn

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Speaker 6: me into a robot, bionic man, give me an AI brain,

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Speaker 6: and I'll be ready to go back out there. Sign

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Speaker 2: But could you imagine trying to protect philip rivers. Let's

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Speaker 2: say you're playing at your all pro level and you

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Speaker 2: more pressure, and you're playing against Seattle. Are you are

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Speaker 2: you gonna hold onto your defensive lineman a little bit

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Speaker 6: There's definitely gonna be some decisions in their minds about, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I got beat. Should I just let him go and

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Speaker 6: life the same age as my dad and just go

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of pressure when you got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's out there. He's out there.

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Speaker 4: I don't give it as best. I give him credit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, we get to this point, Joe, that

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Speaker 6: He did a pretty good job last weekend. I'm not

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Speaker 6: I mean, hey, he gave his team a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: He did, but the defense, the defense gave them a

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Speaker 2: chance to win. They played really good defense. Philip had

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Speaker 4: Pa.

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Speaker 2: Look, I know it's a great story, but I gotta

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Speaker 2: I gotta call it as I see it. His arm

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Speaker 6: I mean they were floating when I was playing until

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Speaker 4: So you give him credit.

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Speaker 6: But it does say something about the development of that

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Speaker 6: here you go, prop them up there. Hopefully you can

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Speaker 2: How would you feel if you're against Miles Garrett and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to win the game, but you're going

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Speaker 2: against Miles Garrett. He needs one sack to break the record,

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Speaker 2: and it's fourth quarter.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't give it to him. But what I would

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Speaker 6: say to my quarterback is, hey, hold onto the ball

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Speaker 6: as long as you need to throw the ball into

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Speaker 6: the end zone. If we get a touchdown, great, But

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Speaker 6: if Miles sacks you, that's okay too. Because I always

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Speaker 6: cheer for players, I don't always cheer now for teams,

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Speaker 6: obviously the Browns, but I love Miles. I think he's

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Speaker 6: doing it the right way on the field. He's given

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Speaker 6: incredible effort, playing the game the right way. He's a

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Speaker 6: great team player, he says the right things off the field,

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Speaker 6: and so for him to be able to hold that

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Speaker 6: sack record I think would be special. And to be honest,

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Speaker 6: I was a Packer fan, and when Brett Favre rolled

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Speaker 6: Strahan that record, I felt like it was a little

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Speaker 6: bit tarnished. And I would love to see Miles with

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Speaker 6: that sack record where everybody says, without a doubt, this

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Speaker 2: show in Westwood One Radio and good to see you again, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Explain the Dolphin situation to me moving forward into next season.

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Speaker 7: Well, obviously, you know you're talking about the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: What do you do with Tua?

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Speaker 7: We know that was a big dead money cap hit

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Speaker 7: with Russell Wilson when he left Denver. I believe the

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Speaker 7: post June first cut for next year, if they were

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Speaker 7: to go down that road, the dead money would be

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Speaker 7: like sixty seven million dollars, where his cap hit if

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Speaker 7: he's on the team is fifty five million dollars. So

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Speaker 7: you know, the question will be have you seen enough

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Speaker 7: of him? Are you willing to start over? And if

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Speaker 7: you start over, do you start over with a draft

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Speaker 7: pick or do you start over with a veteran? And

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Speaker 7: are you going to be much better, uh with with

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Speaker 7: a veteran or do you just kind of retool everything

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Speaker 7: and you're sitting there at six and eight. You'll probably

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Speaker 7: finish just a little under five hundred. You're not going

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Speaker 7: to have a really high pick. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 7: this incredible quarterback class coming out of college that we

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Speaker 7: all thought before the season is really not an incredible

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks class coming out at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the season.

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Speaker 7: So I Mike McDaniel may may have saved may have

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Speaker 7: saved his job, which seems weird because we thought he

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Speaker 7: was gone, but he may still be around.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe the Steelers' playoff potential as far

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Speaker 2: as getting in? What can they do when they get in?

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Speaker 4: I Dan, I don't think they can do much. I

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Speaker 4: really don't this.

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Speaker 7: Pittsburgh has normally been a running team and a defensive team.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: They ran a pretty well last night, Gainwell and Warren

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Speaker 7: basically split carries I think thirteen and twelve, so that

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Speaker 7: was good. Defensively, they haven't been what they normally have been.

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Speaker 7: And as far as Aaron, Aaron was incredibly effective last

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Speaker 7: night twenty three or twenty seven, but most of those

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Speaker 7: passes were to gain Well, which were short passes when

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Speaker 7: he ran an unleashed one. He certainly did a couple

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Speaker 7: of times for sure, but I don't think now. The

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Speaker 7: one thing that's in their favor is you don't have

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Speaker 7: a dominant Kansas City team in the playoffs. You don't

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Speaker 7: have a just below Kansas City dominant Buffalo Bills team.

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Speaker 7: This year, Buffalo will get in to the playoffs, but

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Speaker 7: is it the dominant Buffalo team. The team that's been

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Speaker 7: giving up a lot of run rushing yards on defense.

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Speaker 7: So I look at all the division leaders and I

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Speaker 7: could find a flaw in all of them where it

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Speaker 7: wouldn't surprise me if they got knocked off.

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Speaker 2: And Mike Tomlining vive another one and done in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think if you step back and look

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Speaker 7: at it, if you get past the losing in the

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Speaker 7: first round of the playoffs, having just good enough record

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Speaker 7: to not pick late in the first round or not

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Speaker 7: pick early in the first round, I would say this,

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Speaker 7: what what are.

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Speaker 4: You going to get out there that's better? What?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 7: What are what are you going to get that's going

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Speaker 7: to make them win two more playoff games? I remember you,

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Speaker 7: and you remember too, Dan Marty Schottenheimer went to a

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Speaker 7: couple of AC title games in Cleveland, didn't get him

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Speaker 7: past the point and got fired.

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Speaker 4: Well where's Cleveland been?

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's not like they've they've found somebody

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Speaker 7: to ride past that. So I think we we kind

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Speaker 7: of knee jerk. Though this knee jerk has been for

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Speaker 7: a couple of years with Mike Tomlin. But my thought is,

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Speaker 7: when you settled down and you think about it, You're like,

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Speaker 7: who are we going to get that's better? Are we

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Speaker 7: going to get a retread that we know or a

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Speaker 7: young new, first time head coach that maybe injects something

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Speaker 7: new into the team.

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Speaker 2: But is this sort of like Penn State though, like

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Speaker 2: it's a cautionary tale of yes, they waited over fifty

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Speaker 2: days for his replace. They were quick to get rid

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Speaker 2: of him that decision, But then you didn't exactly have

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Speaker 2: the treasure trove of candidates that you thought you would. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers would be attractive because of the stability there.

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Speaker 2: You know, Mens State mat Amble, and while he's really good,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't have a good record against you know, top

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Speaker 2: ten opponents either.

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Speaker 7: No, I mean all the I mean there was really

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Speaker 7: the one bell of the ball choice this year and

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Speaker 7: that was Lane Kiffin. Right, some are who Someamraw went

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Speaker 7: to Florida was certainly up there as well, and a

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Speaker 7: lot of coaches change hands. But look at it. What

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Speaker 7: do you look at when you go to a new team.

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Speaker 7: You look at obviously ownership, then you look at the

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Speaker 7: quarterback situation.

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Speaker 4: What's overall?

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Speaker 7: The Steelers are a better situation then, But are they

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Speaker 7: better than the Giants?

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Speaker 4: The Giants have a quarterback. The Steelers don't.

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Speaker 2: Does Rod Rulers play next year?

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Speaker 4: Pardon me?

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Speaker 2: Rodgers play next year?

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Speaker 4: In your opinion, boil boy, it.

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Speaker 7: Seems like it seems like he's had a really good

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Speaker 7: experience with Pittsburgh. But again, if they don't go that

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Speaker 7: far this year, what's the expectation that they're going to

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Speaker 7: go far next year? Eventually, whether it's this year or

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Speaker 7: next year, they have to start over a quarterback yet again,

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Speaker 7: and they haven't found their guy to take them anywhere

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Speaker 7: since Ben Roethlisberger. So and it's normally a team that's

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Speaker 7: built on defense and the run game anyway, but they

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Speaker 7: still haven't been able to find a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Let's look at the draft right now. The Giants have

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Speaker 2: the number one pick. Are you confident that they would

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Speaker 2: not be interested in Fernando Mendoza.

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Speaker 4: No, they will not. Jackson Dark.

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Speaker 2: They found their quarterback in Jackson Dark. Yeah, okay, yeah, Raiders, Jets, Cardinals,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say yes, But how many top quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: are available?

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Speaker 4: Now? We know the quarterback position gets over valued.

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Speaker 7: So you have Fernando Mendoza, you have Dante more from Oregon, who,

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Speaker 7: by the way, can go back to college. You have

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Speaker 7: Ty Simpson who can go back to college as well.

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Speaker 7: And most of the mock drafts I've seen there have

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Speaker 7: been three quarterbacks taken, Ty Simpson taken later in the

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Speaker 7: first round. So while the top of the draft you're

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Speaker 7: going to have a number of teams that need a quarterback,

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Speaker 7: as a quarterback worth a number, is there a third

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Speaker 7: quarterback out there in college that's worth a number four,

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Speaker 7: number five?

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Speaker 4: That's going to be the question.

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Speaker 7: We thought this was going to be unbelievable class, but

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Speaker 7: it turns out it maybe isn't and Dante more can

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Speaker 7: go back to school, even though in Oregon he did

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Speaker 7: lose his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Golig Senior, Golick and Golick on FanDuel's

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Speaker 2: Sports Network every weekday from three point thirty to five

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Speaker 2: thirty Eastern, we spent a lot of time talking about turf,

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Speaker 2: natural turf, artificial turf, the number of acls, the fact

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Speaker 2: you have a couple of marquee guys getting hurt, Michael

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Speaker 2: Parsons non contact. What was the worst playing surface? Probably

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Speaker 2: I probably know this, It was Philadelphia by far.

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Speaker 4: Was it was like playing on a.

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Speaker 7: Twenty year old carpet over concrete except where the pitchers

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Speaker 7: mound was for the Phillies and it was metal.

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Speaker 2: But could you explain, could players complain to ownership? Can

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Speaker 2: we make this better?

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Speaker 7: There was every dan, every visiting team filed a grievance

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Speaker 7: with the NFL before their game in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: Never went anywhere.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, remember Wendell Davis from the Chicago Bears

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Speaker 7: went up for a deep ball, came down, blew out

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Speaker 7: both Betel attendance.

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Speaker 4: Just on the turf.

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Speaker 7: You could literally stand on that turf, not play it

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Speaker 7: down in the game, stand on the turf and your

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Speaker 7: back would be just so hurt, so sore after the game.

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Speaker 7: It was by far the worst turf.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're playing on a cushion of the gods

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Speaker 6: today compared.

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Speaker 4: To what we played on. But I get.

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Speaker 7: Their thoughts that if you're getting a lot of non contact,

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Speaker 7: I don't care what kind of artificial turf it is.

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Speaker 7: Is that bad for the player and is it enough

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Speaker 7: for the owners? Because we already know the owners have

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Speaker 7: come out with our own report that kind of disputes

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Speaker 7: the players report. The NFLPA Report of non Contact injury.

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Speaker 7: So it doesn't sound like the owners want to go

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Speaker 7: change it anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: How about we bring the owners out and somebody tackles

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Speaker 2: them and let them land on the field.

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Speaker 7: The owners couldn't last that long out on the field.

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Speaker 7: That would be a good test for them, though they'd

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Speaker 7: be unconscious after taking one hit. We'd have to use

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Speaker 7: the smelling salts, which are now illegal, to wake them up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's shortsighted, but it's all about money and if

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Speaker 2: you don't want to spend the money. And this is

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Speaker 2: where it feels like the commissioner should say, let's protect

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Speaker 2: these players. If we're going to add an eighteenth game,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't that be in there that let's do all we

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Speaker 2: can do to protect them from themselves with you know,

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Speaker 2: the blue tent and concussions and all of that. But

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Speaker 2: the playing surface, I mean, go back to an RG three.

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Speaker 2: Got hurt, Mike, Yeah, my backyard looks better than that.

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Speaker 7: No, listen, I agree, and listen, there's natural graphs, natural

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Speaker 7: grass surfaces that are horrible as well. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: you have I think in Vegas and in Arizona. I

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Speaker 7: know in Arizona where they roll in the grass for

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Speaker 7: the game. That seems to be one of the best

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Speaker 7: choices right now. You're only using the grass for a

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Speaker 7: football game, nothing else to make your extra money. And

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Speaker 7: going back to what you said about about Roger Goodell

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Speaker 7: and the commissioner, Well, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: who does the commissioner work for?

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Speaker 4: Works for the.

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Speaker 7: Owners, So I don't know if he'll he would be

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Speaker 7: able to make a decision like that.

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Speaker 2: Is there a great team in the NFL?

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Speaker 7: If push came to shove and you made me name one,

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Speaker 7: I would say the Rams. I would say the Rams

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Speaker 7: are the most complete team in the NFL, close to

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Speaker 7: the great team, but the most complete team. Now losing

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Speaker 7: to Vante Adams, we'll see how long he's out with

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Speaker 7: a hammy could hurt them. But I could make a

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Speaker 7: case for every leading division team in the AFC knocked

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Speaker 7: off right. I was part of the Me and Ryan

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Speaker 7: radkey for US with one called the Washington hosting the

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Speaker 7: Denver game. Washington had a wide open receiver on a

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Speaker 7: two point conversion to win that game with a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 7: but Nick Benito blocked the ball, so they actually won

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Speaker 7: at twenty seven to twenty six. So I mean they're

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Speaker 7: they're winning one score games, kind of like Kansas City

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Speaker 7: did last year. You're on the verge in the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: One doesn't go your way all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 7: going home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw what happened with Kansas City. You

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Speaker 2: know these teams that have these one you know, all

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Speaker 2: these one possession games, one score games, I always say

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Speaker 2: I go against them the following year, because you can't.

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Speaker 2: It's not sustainable. I mean the Chiefs were I think

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Speaker 2: twelve to zero in one score games last year. I

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Speaker 2: think they were one in seven so far this year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's that, and it's it's turnovers like turnovers now like

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Speaker 7: the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: They're plus twenty and they have thirty takeaways, twenty one interceptions,

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Speaker 7: nine fumble recoveries. I would not bank on that happening

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Speaker 7: next year. Yeah, right, So I put that in one

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Speaker 7: score games kind of in the same box of you

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Speaker 7: cannot count on that year to year.

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Speaker 2: Great to chat with you, my best of the family.

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays there you too, Dan, Thanks, thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: That's big. Mike Gullik