1 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts. Now, what's up everybody globally around the world. 2 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Everybody globally, what is up globally? Um? Hey, Miami to 3 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: E Pizza. Hey, let's get loud, Let's get how Um 4 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: it's the year anniversary of Let's Get Loud. Well, shout 5 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: out my My coworker Claire Carrouselo wrote um a piece 6 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: about the one year anniversary of Jennifer lopezing Let's Get Loud, 7 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and honestly, it was an absolutely stunning piece 8 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and I highly recommend every'll google it. Her assertion was 9 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: that this was the year Jennifer has got her loud back. Wow, 10 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: And in any ways, she's right, and she's right. That 11 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen to 12 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: plug an old song at an inauguration, I mean, but 13 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: hear me out, Yeah, that to me was the best part. Like, 14 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: and I'm saying this as someone who like, don't get 15 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: me wrong, the lady got guys a better artist than 16 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez. Don't comment me with pitchforks and literally, uh, 17 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: what's the thing where you decapitate? Um guillotines. Don't come 18 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: at me with any kind of medieval weapons, but leave 19 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: the middle val weaponry at home, believe the medieval weaponry 20 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: at home. Just this one so I can finish this 21 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: one sentence in my gay podcast, which is that I 22 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: think j lo in like saying let's get loud in 23 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: the middle of this land as your land is, is 24 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the best possible encapsulation of the political process in America 25 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I've ever seen on screen. It is the American spirit. 26 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: It is all politics wrapped into one. It is it's 27 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: It shows our emptiness, it shows our fullness, and it 28 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: shows it so much more I'm sorry to say it 29 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: than like like Lady Gaga. Of course there's something to 30 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: be said about her going there is though she's in 31 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the Hunger Games, and then like talking about her, she's 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: going to investigate the insurrection herself. All that. Of course, 33 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: I kind of in a different way we have to stand. 34 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obviously, you know, get her sign my 35 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Insurrection with more abilia. But but I do think the 36 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: simplicity of Jennifer Lopez saying let's get loud in the 37 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: middle of my land is your life. There's nothing like it. 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I even want to just double down on 39 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: that one sentence. The simplicity of Jennifer Lopez, like can 40 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: you stop there? There's it's it's so simple, the whole 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: whole being simple. Yeah, in a way, that's like actually 42 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: very helpful, especially in our current society where you know, 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: sometimes down is up and oh left and you look 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: at Jennifer or if someone's like what is a celebrity? 45 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: You can be like this and don't get it, like yeah, 46 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: and they're like what did she do? And it's like, well, 47 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, everything, and what does she do? 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Like is she great at any of it? And it's 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: like she's fine, She's not bad. I did recently get 50 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: j Lo pilled when I decided I always thought that 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: what you're saying now, that was always how I viewed her. 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I recently decided I think she's actually a very good actress. 53 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Really yes, because I watched that movie, the SB movie 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: with her and George Clooney. What is it called You're 55 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: asking the wrong bitch? Do you know? No? I can 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: look at crap truly. I the thing is I should 57 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: know that, yeah, like, okay, okay, film except for one 58 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, okay. I watched Out of Sight and 59 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: she's just like there's something about that movie where were like, 60 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: they don't make I'm like this anymore, Like it's there 61 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: really are just two beautiful, gorgeous movie stars. And I'm 62 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: generally skeptical about George Queen, but he really shines there. Anyway. 63 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: The point is you are right generally that she doesn't 64 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: do anything well. Yeah, but you know she kind of 65 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: freaked it in Hustlers well, and that's kind of the 66 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: thing about That's also part of the charm is that 67 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: because she's not great, when she is great in something, 68 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, she tried really hard and like that 69 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: really well, So you feel happy. You feel joy when 70 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: she does well because you know it's totally above and beyond. 71 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: I also like how her iconic moments are very like 72 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: there's also simplicity in that it's like her economy moments 73 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: like she wore her dress or like ums or or 74 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: like Jenny from the block, so literal, so literal. So 75 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's also the staying power that she has. Yes, 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: they say that, like, I you know, I think it's 77 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: so powerful that to have a gay podcast is to 78 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: create a safe space to talk exclusively about Jennifer Lopez 79 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: for ten minutes. I agree, But I also want to. 80 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I really, I actually think you're so correct to point 81 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: to the staying power and I and I think that 82 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: is similar to the staying power of America, Like it 83 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: is a fallen empire that's still You're like, yeah, I 84 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: guess it's a list, you know what I mean as 85 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: far as countries go, Like we're kind of still, we're 86 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: kind of still chasing the high of love, don't constantly. Yeah, 87 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: America is always returning to the it's the dress. It's 88 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: like always going back to and be like into it, 89 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's like yeah, but it's not the same thing. 90 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't have the shock. America's output is constantly like 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: it is constantly movies like that movie she did call 92 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: the Boy next Door where she gives someone a quote 93 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: unquote original copy of the Iliad and then it's like 94 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: bad reviews, flops, everyone hates her, and then she comes 95 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: out with the dress. It's like every two years she 96 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: has to wear the Versacci dress. And for America, I 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: guess the Versaci dress is like maybe War War maybe 98 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: America's Versaci dress, the Versacci dress of America. I mean, 99 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: and she she she struts her stuff and every couple 100 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: of years and quite Frankly, her story is very American. 101 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: I mean, didn't grow up with a lot. She was, 102 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: in fact, simply Jenny from the box. She did not 103 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: have rocks and and and then you know, made quite 104 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: a name for herself. I mean, I'm still stuck on 105 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: the war being the Versacci dress. That that's one of 106 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: the most intelligent things you've ever that is. Um, I'm like, 107 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: this is this is rough? What space are we in today? What? 108 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: I think that's so funny? No, I think it's so funny, 109 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: But it's it's problematic, that's for sure, is it not. 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's kind of literally like 111 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: a Marxist critique, but I guess it's also problematic. Yeah, 112 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: I guess sometimes the truth and it hurts more than 113 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to. Um. It's kind of like when we said, 114 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: I can't remember which one of us said it in 115 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: the Patreon episode that good lighting is the new laugh 116 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: track that now people It's like it used to be 117 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: that people were hypnotized by a laugh track and thought 118 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: the show was good, and now they're hypnotized by good 119 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: lighting and think bad prestige shows are good. I mean, 120 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: first of all, I want to thank you for um 121 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: taking that thought from out from behind the paywall, because 122 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: that was such a good thought, and yeah, people need 123 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: to know that that's what you get if you pay 124 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: us a monthly. And I was like, you know, I 125 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: was up at night unable to sleep thinking about how 126 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: people weren't going to be able to hear that if 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: they weren't paying the five dollars a month. Well, whenever 128 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: we record a Patreon episode, you then can't say for 129 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: a week, it's so it's so traumatic actually, and trounds 130 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: about trauma. Really, Patron is about trauma, and you know, 131 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: where's our real episodes are sort of a celebration of life, 132 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: that's right, and a reflection. Real episodes are a celebration 133 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: of life. Patreon episodes or a celebration of deep seated 134 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: PTSD because I because we have trauma from in fact, 135 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: participating in capitalism by charging people for our content, and 136 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: we're so sensitive to that. We're so sensitive to that 137 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: that it actually has an emotional impact on us. Well yeah, 138 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: we're empaths. And so they find the people pay, we 139 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: cannot help but feel like, oh my god, that's almost 140 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,679 Speaker 1: as if we are paying for us, right, yes, exactly, 141 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: like we you know, we know we're in technically making money, 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: but we actually feel like we're losing money every time 143 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: we're Patreon. Every time a payment comes in, we feel 144 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: it a physical pay. It hurts, and and you can 145 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: see it in our faces. It's we're laughing through the tears. Honey, 146 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Um. You know what I love. I 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: love when I came in with like kind of backup 148 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: topics that I could bring up in case we didn't 149 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: we didn't get on a roll. And guess what, I'm 150 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: throwing those in the damn trap. Take out the fucking 151 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: try a bitch. I never roll in with the topic ever, ever, ever, 152 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: because I think you're more confident than I am. No, no, no, 153 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm reckless. You're reckless. But I just I'm like, 154 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about something. Something's gonna come up. Whether 155 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: we like it, we know, we know it's a success 156 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: when we don't resort to like, how is your weekend? Yeah, 157 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: when we're asking how the weekend is? I mean, which 158 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: is sometimes a very valid conversation. It's it's valid. But 159 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: but here's what I'll say. It's because something is valid 160 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should do celebrated or do it, And 161 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: that's actually one of the biggest misconceptions of the LGBTQ community. Yeah, 162 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: you can be valid and also not good. Should we 163 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: bring it our guest? I think so. I think. I 164 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: think it's tv H time. I think it's t v 165 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: H time. Um, George, you do. Let me tell you something. 166 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have Ron truly one of my 167 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: old as friends and not oldest age wise. She's actually 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: very young. But when of the people I have the longest, 169 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we came up in Boston together. We once 170 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: roomed together at a comedy festival in Portland, Oregon. If 171 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: you can even wrap your stupid little brain around that, 172 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: that wasn't directly at you, Sama was directed our listeners. No, no, 173 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: I'm I took it personally. Know that anyway? Please put 174 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: your ears together? Is that No, that's something our colleagues say. 175 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: We can't say it. Okay, please welcome to the lab. 176 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Cannie can the mobli to my name? She told us 177 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: to say that. Yes, it's controversial. I know so peoplen't 178 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: like it, but I think it really emphasizes who I 179 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: am saying. Yeah, how about hell is it going? It 180 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: is coming along? I hate winter, and so that's stuff. 181 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: But outside of that, I want to jump off. I 182 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: want to add to that. San's inspired already. I'm I'm 183 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: so inspired by that sentence. Last week, which was what 184 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: the third week of January, I was like, I actually 185 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: love winter, and I'm like I love gearing up and 186 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: I love like wearing my long underwear and like committing. 187 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: But then this was literally one week later, I'm like, okay, 188 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm done, Like I'm ready for spring now. Like last 189 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: week I was like this could go forever and I 190 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: would be happy actually, and then this week it's like, no, 191 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: actually it needs to be like may yeah, well you 192 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: have a way of taking it. I think the reason 193 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,599 Speaker 1: you were excited because you wore your long Johns for 194 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: the first time and then felt very erotic in them. 195 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Sure would you say that's accurate? There's something to it? 196 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh can I don't know if you know this. I 197 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: can erontize almost anything. That's exactly. I respect that so much. 198 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: I think that is a fantastic skill. And tell yeah, 199 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I don't own Long Johns, but if I did own them, 200 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: I would would. Yeah. I try to be like, look 201 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: at I know, do you get your butt when you're 202 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: wearing because I look at any damn things. Your eyes 203 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: can land anywhere. It was not a bad spot to 204 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: look at. S. Well, you just got back from l A, 205 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: so you're really like getting Yeah. Yeah, I was out 206 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: there for a week. It rained on the first day 207 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, that's not what I came 208 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: here for, Like why I'm trying to go hiking. But 209 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: every other day it was sunny. I went to the beach, 210 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: I sweated outside. It was wow, that does sound nice. Yeah, well, 211 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: sorry you go no, no, nor oh. I actually have 212 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: nothing to say. Okay, I mean either you really were 213 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: ready for the okay, wait ready? Yes? So did you 214 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: like l A? Or oh my god, Sam, I'm gonna 215 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: literally leave my zoom window and enter yours. And So 216 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: what are the differences between l A and New York. 217 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: I've lived in both. Love both. Both have good restaurants, 218 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: A lot of them are cheaper in a way. Love driving. 219 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't like it. I love it. 220 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: I find it calming and centering, except for when I 221 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: have bouts of road rage, which I do. The beach 222 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: is fantastic. I don't know. I don't know if I 223 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: give off beach lady in New York. But when at 224 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: the moment I get to l A, I'm like, I'm 225 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: going to the beach. Wow. Interesting, I like, uh, I 226 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: like the idea of you having slightly different personalities in 227 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: New York and l A. Yeah, which I kind of 228 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: feel too, like I really, especially because I spend time 229 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: in California doing very formative years. When I go to California, 230 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: suddenly I am Callie girl, like, whereas when I'm in 231 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: New York, I'm like, I'm going to the Whitney like 232 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: I really like, like I like cosplaying Yorker, And then 233 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: when I go to l A, I'm like, why is 234 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: everyone so uptight in the East Coast? Agree? I wish 235 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: I could adapt better. L A is like such a 236 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: block for me. I do not adapt well. When I'm there, 237 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I like spiral and like like get mad for no 238 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: reason and be like I'm gonna walk. Of course I'm 239 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna walk even though I can't, And I'm just like 240 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: mad because you're not supposed to walk, and they don't 241 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: have an infrastructure for it. They literally don't have sidebolgs 242 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: and you'll die. I was on the damn Road. It 243 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: was not the song was walking on the freeway. He's like, 244 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: I need to walk. I think what you need sam 245 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: to to like l A better. And in fact, it's 246 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: not even l A. It's California because l A whatever. 247 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: But you need to like do a nature California trip. Yeah, 248 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: you need to go to Big Surp, you need to 249 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: go to Joshua Tree, you need to go to Marin. 250 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I think you need to go to coach Lla. I 251 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: really think need to have to going to Coachella. Up um, 252 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: but I really think that is what makes California click, 253 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: going somewhere where there are like redwoods and doing like 254 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: and then coming out and then there's a store that 255 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: sells jam My podcast co host prescribed me to go 256 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: to Coachella. No, I would say, don't go to Coachella. 257 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: I know, I was just to be clear, don't do that. 258 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: But but for sure, go to the red Woods. Yes, 259 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: go to the red Woods. There's like fifteen trails in 260 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Los Angeles alone that you can hike and you can 261 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: always see the city. So I am a I will say, 262 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: even though it's not clear that I am a beach person, 263 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: it is deep within my core that I am a 264 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: city person. And I love that I'm hiking and then 265 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: I get above some trees and oh, thank exactly, I 266 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: feel the same lake. It's like the nature is um 267 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: is incorporated into the city, and not just in nature, 268 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: but like random It's like people go and like look 269 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: through a telescope and it's like, okay, sure, like you 270 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: can do and then but you're never but you can 271 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: always see a view of what looks kind of like 272 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: a city. Yes, it's it's like you're at the beach, 273 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: but then you look back and there's you know, just 274 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Galba perfect. She's always, She's always. I don't feel safe 275 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: if I can't see Jessicalba. You also need the only 276 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: thing you need, SAMMI, sorry to keep prescribing. La is 277 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: a city that you need to force yourself to romanticize. 278 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: You have to read a book. You have to like 279 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: read Joan Didion. You have to read a book that's 280 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: like about California and then honestly be reading it as 281 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: you're walking in California. No, that makes a lot of sense. 282 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: I do need a I need to find my fantasy 283 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: in California because right now I don't. Part of me 284 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: like the only fantasy I could have in my mind 285 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: is it involves being wealthy, and I'm not there yet, 286 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: so it's sort of the fantasy work. Yeah, Whereas honestly, 287 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel about New York really. 288 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: To me, New York, I'm like, my fantasy is I mean, 289 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure this kind of like fake nostalgic fantasy of 290 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: what I imagine basically like eighties and nineties New York 291 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: to be like, like, my fantasy is like going to 292 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: like you know, it's like you're trying to be like 293 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: coke off a mirror or something. No, no, not even that, 294 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: just like doing the classic like just like classic like 295 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: going to like film Forum and then to like this 296 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: French restaurant that everyone knows about, and then like and 297 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: then going to a gala and then going to like 298 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: just like going to Broadway. Like it's nothing like not 299 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: having to track to a ticks for discounted tickets, just 300 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, I'm seeing this new production of you know, 301 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee Williams. You know I I that's whereas in l A. 302 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: I actually what I romanticize is more like a hippie 303 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: esque vibe. Like yeah, like hiking and having a dinner 304 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: party in l A. It's so easy to like entertain 305 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Like when my family would come and visit, it'd be like, Okay, 306 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to this cheap taco restaurant that's the 307 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: best tacos in town, and then we go to the beach, 308 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: and then we go to the mountains, and then we 309 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: go to like Randy's. Don't it's just like a bunch 310 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: of things that you don't have to be rich for. 311 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Are they be wrong being rich? There better? I hear? 312 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't know perstly, but it seems like but here truly, 313 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: it's like, if you don't have money, where are you 314 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: going go? Exactly like I guess you go to Central Park. 315 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: It's also like New York wealth has always felt more 316 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: appealing to me than l A wealth. It's it's intellectual wealth. 317 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's like you know in them in Succession 318 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: where it's like they when they meet with the Liberal 319 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: family that's also really wealthy and also evil, but they 320 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: pretend they're good people. That's what New York wealth is. Totally. Yeah, Um, well, 321 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I think we've gotten to the bottom of New York 322 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: versus A Finally. Wow, I can't believe we did it. 323 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: Dare I say one of the more enjoyable New Yorkers 324 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: that conversations I've had in my life. I really feel 325 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: like we got to the bottom of that. I mean, 326 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: there was nuanced, it was subtle, it was it was 327 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: dealing in in terms that most people couldn't fathom exactly. 328 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: We're also, I mean, we're in the trenches. Can he 329 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: just got back from she? Literally? Um wait? Like yeah, okay, 330 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: how do I ask this? Actually? What was can he? 331 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: What was George like in Boston? Be honest? Oh god, okay, 332 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: this is a great question. Now I want to know 333 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: up and coming, like I started a little bit before you, 334 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: and I think you arrived like maybe halfway through my tenure. Yeah, 335 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: I think feels like I went to Uh it feels 336 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it does feel like comedy high school versus 337 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: New York, which is comedy college, grad school, etcetera. People 338 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: listening to this are going to be so mad. You 339 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: just sit back. But oh, come on, they know, oh 340 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: they know me, Like that's the end. Okay, fine, yeah, 341 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: all right, I mean if that is the end for you, 342 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: that I mean in the same way that some people 343 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: don't go to totally Okay, I saw that. Okay, Okay, 344 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: keep going, keep going, digging myself through a deeper hole. Um, 345 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: you were cool, thank you. I knew you were cool quickly, 346 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: and some people it took a while. Yeah, scratch that. 347 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Most people took a while to be like, what's this 348 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: whole person's deal? Yes, but you I was like, oh, 349 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: he's cool, right right right, So it was a quick acceptance. 350 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: There was no quick I mean I was Also it 351 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: was very flash in the pant. I mean it was 352 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: in Boston for two years. Of those two years, I 353 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: did comedy for essentially a year and a half, and 354 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: then like after that I would go back kind of 355 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: quarterly because I would always go back and like plan 356 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: a lot of shows and do like a weekend, especially 357 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: if I like had new material or you know, just 358 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: because like it was impossible to get on show in 359 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: New York, whereas I knew everyone in Boston. So I 360 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: do feel like it feels like more than hosted one 361 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: of the figures. Yes, I I hosted. I co hosted. Yes, Um, Yes, 362 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I co hosted a show that was incredibly helpful in 363 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: my Boston career because it was like a show that 364 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: had a reputation before me, So then people learned who 365 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: I was because they would like, do this show that 366 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: they already we're doing before I started co hosting it. Um, 367 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: but I also thought can also I was like, I 368 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: also thought you were very cool, and I also thought 369 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: you had this kind of like almost business bitch mentality 370 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: of like I'm here, it's like I'm here to win, 371 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: like and like, which I really appreciate it, because there 372 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: was a certain inertia sometimes where I feel like so 373 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: many people, how do I put this, I've never heard 374 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: this before, and I love it. Well, there's a certain 375 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: kind of there's a certain um repetition that I actually 376 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: found very nice in Boston, Whereas, like you know, I 377 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of within six months I found the places that 378 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I liked. I found the people that I liked, and 379 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: then they were my friends and those are my spots. 380 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: And you know, whereas I felt like you were always 381 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: trying something new or you were like one of the 382 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: first people I knew who was constantly like applying to 383 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: comedy festivals, like you were always like looking for the 384 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 1: next step rather than being satisfied doing the same thing. 385 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Would say that I am never satisfied. I will not 386 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: know happiness because I am always looking to the next thing. 387 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Versus experiencing the thing that I'm doing. But also I 388 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: think you met me after I had already come to 389 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: New York, Like I came to New York for one weekend, 390 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: and I want to say, and I was like, okay, 391 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm moving here. This is this is what I think. 392 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I think you moved maybe like a year after room 393 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: at or something. Yeah, because I was like, Okay, nope, 394 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I see, I see where this could go. And this 395 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: is not the way I am not trying to the people. 396 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: I mean, not for that. Yeah, I know. I just 397 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: want to say I disagree with everything Conn said about Boston. Okay, okay, 398 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: like this is an ideal place. I just like, I 399 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: don't know, let's all go around and say one nice 400 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: thing about people of Boston just to make them they 401 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: think that they're nice. That's the thing. Many of them, 402 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: many of them are. It's the thing with Boston is 403 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: there's something about I mean, I'm sorry, like this is 404 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: and I was. I have a kind of long history 405 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: in Boston because I didn't live there for a while, 406 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: but I happened to be born there just because my 407 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: parents happened to be there for a few years when 408 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: I was born, So like it has like a big 409 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: place in my heart. My grandparents who are Greek, like 410 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: came from Greece and like helped raise me for the 411 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: first two years because my parents had to work, and 412 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: like my grandfather would know he would still ask me, 413 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: like how those Celtics doing. Meanwhile, he's like Greek and 414 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: does not follow and be a like there's just like 415 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: it has a special place in our family. So I 416 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: have a lot of affection for it. But there is 417 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: something about the do you think it creates some kind 418 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: of vortex, Like there's a certain like it doesn't allow 419 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: you to leave or something, and then it looks to 420 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: and then it like mistrusts people outsiders, either people who 421 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: leave or people who come in. Yes, yes, you think 422 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: you're fancy exactly, yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like 423 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: about Boston. I lived there for a total of six 424 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: years and I got so much out of it. But 425 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I also feel like I was being gas lit the 426 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: entire time. Yes, I would like other places exist and 427 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: they're like, no, they don't write other things are nice. No, 428 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: this is the nicest it could be. In You're like 429 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: this was voted the least fashionable city in a marriage. Um, yeah, 430 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: it's um, it's tough because I do. I would say 431 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: I almost have like incredibly positive and incredibly negative association. 432 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: Like it's not I wouldn't say I'm down the middle. 433 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: It's just like on the one hand, it was it 434 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: was also like the most I've ever felt part of 435 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: a not ever, but like I felt so much part 436 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: of a community, like even just like especially because we 437 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: did you live in Cambridge. Yeah, Like in Cambridge, you're 438 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: like it's like there's a small village vibe and you 439 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: have your like local bar and your local coffee shop 440 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: and it's walkable and everything's easy. Yeah, and that I 441 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: haven't really even now living in Brooklyn for four or 442 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: five years, like I haven't really access that yet of 443 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: like the local neighborhood. And yeah, I think you gotta 444 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: make it. You gotta make it. And yet, you know, 445 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: you try to go to a restaurant in Boxton and 446 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: it's like, are you kidding? Wait, what do you mean? 447 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: It's I mean, I'm sorry. I also and I don't 448 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: have this. I'm gonna sound it's gonna sound somehow elatest, 449 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: but like I also moved from San Francisco and cow 450 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: for you, as you know, has just like incredibly fresh 451 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: food and like it's a center for food whatever. And 452 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: then I would try to go to like these. I 453 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: would be like read something about some new American restaurant 454 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: in Boston and be like, oh great, this will be good, 455 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: and then I would go and it would be like 456 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: the worst thing I've ever It was always like to 457 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: go to. There was like a couple of places where 458 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: it was a little bit elevated, but I had like 459 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: a called it like a dinner club, and we'd go 460 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: to like the list of best restaurants in Boston and 461 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: we go to one of them each month. It was 462 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: like a thing that we did. And looking back, so 463 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: many of those restaurants, those new American restaurants tasted exactly 464 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: like Chillen exactly had like I think it is graphic 465 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: design for the menus. Yeah, I felt like I was 466 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: being lied to. And in fact, what that what that 467 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: empowered me to do, is to abandon the concept of 468 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: luxury and be like I am going to go to 469 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: legal seafoods, like which is delicious? Why not that? Really 470 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: that was like an embowering thing for me. But it 471 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: was like not really taking any risk and just being 472 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: like I know what the good things are and I'm 473 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: going to go there and that's my life. That's it. Yeah, 474 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: you know what you like. I went to Boston one 475 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: time and I said, I said, never again. I went 476 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: on exerience. I went for like this was in like 477 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: twenty for like some improv festival. This was when I 478 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: was in my improv Yes. Yeah, And it was like 479 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: just the town was so like I was like, what 480 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: do you guys do? Like like this is the bar? 481 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: Like every bar was like an Irish pub in a 482 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: way that was like grow up. I could not I 483 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: could not enjoy myself in those spaces. I'm shocked you 484 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: don't like that because that seems so your vibe. That's 485 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: actually a good point. Let me unpack that and in fact, 486 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: you know what you love Sam the Bar I used 487 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: to host my I show at with my friend Zach 488 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: and Pamela. Um Is it's kind of it's Kennie. Would 489 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: you say it's I'd say it's a dive bar that 490 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: has a backward like there was a back room that 491 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: actually when we set it up for the show was 492 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: like a perfect size for a show. It was like, honestly, 493 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: to this day, the best show I've ever been a 494 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: part of, but but it is. It was a dive 495 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: bar hosted by all It was like all Irish straight guys. 496 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure a couple of them are maga. Oh yeah, 497 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: there's Stevie's hell because they said some things that were 498 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: out off to me. Yes, it was like one of 499 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: those things that we have to kind of look look 500 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: the other way. Um, but anyway, it's like the kind 501 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: of bar that I think you would fetish. It is 502 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: called the campus I want to be You? You want 503 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: to be YouTube? No I didn't go to be you, 504 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: but I spent a lot of time there because of that. 505 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: But you want to be you for grad school? Yeah, 506 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I went to be you for grad school. Wit which 507 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: school did you go to? I went to M I 508 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: t for this your because all the only people who 509 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: don't say it when they say were they went to 510 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: school are Harvard and MT people, so I was like, 511 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: we went to one of those. I also feel weird 512 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: about it because every it's like everyone always assumed it 513 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: was really expensive, but it was actually a fully funded program. 514 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: And then I but I don't. I don't want anyone 515 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: to be like, oh yeah, he's like his you know, whatever. 516 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: His parents paid two hundred thousand dollars for him to 517 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: go to grad school. So then I end up preempting 518 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: that by like talking about it. It's fully funded, and 519 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: then everyone's like no one asked, like so that's why 520 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't say it. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But yes, 521 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: I went to m I t you went to be 522 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: you go off. No, that is the bar that we 523 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: studied it, So I wasn't even doing common really yeah, 524 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: so like I have, I was drunk in the Dugout 525 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: ply before that show started because I was there for 526 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: grad school and I would like bring we'd bring our 527 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: books and like sit around a table with beers and 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: just like that's where we did our work. And also 529 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: it is featured. I don't know if you saw this 530 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: Manchester by the yeah c affleck uh he was probably 531 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: a bad person is wearing the Dugout Cafe T shirt 532 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's yeah, And I'm pretty sure they then hung 533 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: a photo of that still in the Dugout Cafe. They Kennie, 534 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: you're talking about like going to a bar with all 535 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: your books and sort of like studying while having beers 536 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: is so like sit call me. It's like I love 537 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: that so much because it's something that I feel like 538 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: only happens in fantasies. But it's very how I make 539 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: your mother. I mean, I guess they're not in college, 540 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: but but yeah, it's it's it's there's something c W 541 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: about it. There's something almost still more girls about it. 542 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: I see, I was going to say Neverdale. Yeah, I 543 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: feel like Riverdale. Okay. Actually Pat was talking about this recently. 544 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you know how many movies and TV there's 545 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: always like a huge lounge in every school. Yeah. Yeah, 546 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Like it's like what schools have these like fully, like 547 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're very It's like you're in the w hotel. Yeah, 548 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: where they just there's just stuff around and no one's 549 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: like ushroom, you out of it, and like nothing's broken 550 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: or raddy in the way that things that are used 551 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: by college students are. Yeah, there's like a barista. They're 552 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: like do you want of course? Yeah? I like, um, wait, 553 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: we have to do our first segment. Oh we have 554 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: to wait. I want to say one more thing. We 555 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: literally have to and then we have to get to 556 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: our one thing that I feel like we're really tied 557 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: all together. Okay. Similar to that, I think when schools. 558 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: L A schools are depicted on film. It really takes 559 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: me out of it and confuses me because they have 560 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: like a full campus, and I was always kind of like, well, 561 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: that's not real in the same way that like a 562 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: big school lounge is not real. But then you hear 563 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: about people that go to school in l A and 564 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: they're like, no, that is real. High school. High schools 565 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: have like campuses. Oh interesting, okay, and high schools and 566 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: other places that campuses. Like I'm from the South and 567 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: it was like several acres in different buildings when and 568 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: we had a campus. Okay, well like yeah, I mean 569 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: we have property that the schools on and I wouldn't 570 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: like we were like well around outside most of the time, 571 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: like they were like you were mostly in the building 572 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: in Okay, Okay, I'm being at time. Surely you had 573 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: like sports fields and things like. Of course, I'm not 574 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: disputing the fact that the school owns on the land. 575 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm disputing the structure of consess alright, that you would 576 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: walk outside for like for me walking we had to 577 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: walk outside between every class, so like the science classes 578 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: were over here where we're here, we were walking outside 579 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: atween every class. This is insane unless you had back 580 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: to back science or something. I wouldn't go that far. 581 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: We had a main building and then we had like 582 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: a couple more buildings that like, this is I'm making 583 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: this up because I don't remember, but I'm sure there 584 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: was like some kind of art building or like when 585 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: I went to high school, there was a building that 586 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: had all the science labs. George, if you could please 587 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: just not make stuff up. But we're trying to have 588 00:32:53,400 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: a conversation. Oh my god, um um, well, let's do 589 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: our first segment. That's that you're like, I think this 590 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: will really tie everything together. Actually, this is the worst 591 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. I've never heard any more disputable 592 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: in my life. Okay. Our first segment is called straight Shooters, 593 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: and in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with and 594 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: complicity and straight culture by asking a series of honestly 595 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: nonsensical questions where you have to choose between one thing 596 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: and another thing. And the one rule is that you 597 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: can't ask any follow up questions about how the game works, 598 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: even though it makes no sense. Okay, Okay, Sam, okay, 599 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: nice claiming a dependent or being an independent woman? Being 600 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: an independent woman, I love New York or I love Lamb, 601 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I love New York. Um, okay, speaking revenge or seeking 602 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: local singles in your area. Oh, that's tough. That's tough. 603 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Both of those equally, is what's because thinking revenge sounds 604 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: like dramatic. I'm imagining it shot very well. It looks good. 605 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: You can tell she went to grads for for film 606 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: I did. Oh my god. I don't talk about it, 607 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: but seeking what is it? Local singles in your area? 608 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: I am single, and I it wouldn't be the worst 609 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: thing to meet other single people as long as they're 610 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: not single in that way that you're like, Oh, it's 611 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: very clear why you are single. I see it fair, 612 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: You're not like other singles. Oh, no, I I can see. 613 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: I think it's obvious why I'm single. I would like 614 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: the other singles I'm around for not to be obvious. Well, 615 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: that is the eternal question of dating, I guess, or 616 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: the eternal kind of dilemma. Yeah, exactly. M Kenny's kettle corn, 617 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: kettle chips or ketamine. Oh, I love kettle corn. I 618 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: have never I've never done Kennedy and I wasn't gonna 619 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: say I've never done kettle ship Kenneman seems like intense, 620 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: but then all these people are like I love it, 621 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: and people who surprised me who I'm like, I was 622 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: pretty like straight arrows, square person, and they're like, no, 623 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: I got high in a back room in Thailand, And 624 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. So 625 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with kettle corn because I am square. Great, 626 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: okay um calling the pandemic a whole as panini or 627 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: calling coronavirus ms rohna, oh my god, miss ron when 628 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: people call it to panina, I don't know why. I 629 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: just stopped listening to what they're saying, and I have 630 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: such a hard time getting back on track to be like, yes, 631 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: I am here, I am in this conversation. Also, Panini 632 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: is a good thing, like yeah, just like broken brained. Yes, 633 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing is really revealed so many 634 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: deep issues within our society. And one of them is like, 635 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: if you're telling me I need to call it a 636 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: whole last panini, it's so absurd, ye pandemic? Well yeah, 637 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: it undermines your point is actually like a pretty kind 638 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: of I don't know, like it's like a lunch. It's 639 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: not even like it's not even like a steak freight. 640 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: It's like you can't say a whole last panini, like 641 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: a panini is not like a large thing anyway. Okay, 642 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: can we live in a simulation or he lives in 643 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: a pineapple under the sea. We live in a simulation 644 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: because I am older dam SpongeBob in the way that 645 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: like it didn't come on until after I was like, already, like, 646 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: not Coloni anymore. So I know everyone loves it. I 647 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: know that. I know that, and it's probably good. And 648 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: I think there was like a ride I went to 649 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: a theme park or something and that was lovely. But 650 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: outside of that, I know nothing interesting. H I actually 651 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: feel like I've done this one before maybe, but I 652 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: was needing a last one and um struggling, so I 653 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: typed this very quickly. So with all that being said, 654 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: if I repeat myself, I'm sorry. But here it goes lips, 655 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: the teeth, the tip of the tongue or neck back, 656 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: pussy crack, crack. I don't even know what the first thing. Okay, 657 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: the blood and body of Christ or a cops salad. 658 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: Hold the bacon dressing on the side. It's not a 659 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Cops salad without like, I'm not even a Christian, but 660 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: like what you do believe in a cops sound? I 661 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: do believe in a cops out. A cops sound means something, 662 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: okayn't just like if you take it out, if you're like, 663 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: oh I want to blp hold the bat, then it's 664 00:37:53,600 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: a healthy God. Even just saying the words cobs salad 665 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: really brings you right back. Yeah. I went to a 666 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: gay resort this summer and they had a sandwich that 667 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: was the LGBT. That was I've seen that before, which 668 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: I thought was so funny and how lame it is. 669 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: They add guacamole, that was what they were saying, and 670 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, what about ques? They should add 671 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: actually for the nighttime. Yeah, um, Kenny, let's get into 672 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: the topic. Now that we have ten minutes more. Wow, 673 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: we've really been going. Um, I know, but I mean 674 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: I kind of love it. This harkens back to our 675 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: early episodes where we would never touch on the topic, 676 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: which a lot of people miss. So this is kind 677 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: of for the old for the old old Hills, the 678 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: ones over there from the beginning. Can you brought a 679 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: topic that I think is so? What's you? Um? What's 680 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: the word? I'm looking for. It's so rich, rich, transcendent 681 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: and rich. Um, what is the topic kness? And why 682 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: is it straight? Why did it come to mind when 683 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: I asked you when we asked you to pick a 684 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: straight topic? Okay, Uh, the topic is and Taylor. It 685 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 1: came to mind because I thought of the straightest people 686 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: I know, uh, mainly my mother, and she loves Ann 687 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: Taylor so much. I like Ann Taylor in a way 688 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: that I have to accept. Okay, I've never been in 689 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 1: an Ann Taylor and never like didn't utter the words, 690 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: oh I could wear that like it's never happened. Um, 691 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: it's something. How do I put this? It's at once 692 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 1: not at all aspirational, yeah, but imbued with middle class snobbery. 693 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: And I don't know how it manages to do both 694 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: of those things simultaneous. Yeah, yeah, well it's it's a 695 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: part of mall culture, but it is the more like reserved, 696 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: Like it's the intellectual side of mall culture. It is 697 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: the definition of the phrase upper middle class. Yes, yes, 698 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: like it is. It is not mains. It's not fully 699 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: down the middle, but it's I don't think act, I 700 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: don't think like one per centers where like it is, 701 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: it is up. It is um client what's the word like, 702 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 1: not up and coming? Oh my god, mobile, upwardly mobile, 703 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: upwardly mobile. People that have you know, let's say that 704 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: are in their forties and have one or two young children. Yes, 705 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: it says function sort of but not. I think they 706 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: did an SNL sketch that I really liked with um, 707 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: what's your face? Or eyes are too big? There's the 708 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: right side. No, one's eyes are stone yes? Yes, yes, 709 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: having small eyes And I'm tired of people acting like 710 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: big eyed people are the way that we exact. Yeah, 711 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: let's reconsider what sizes. Eyes can be, eyes can be small, yes, anything. 712 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: But they did this thing. It was like fashion coward 713 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: and it was so accurate. It's like these shirts that 714 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: have like a button closure, but it only goes halfway down, 715 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 1: so maybe you wear it with a skirt, or maybe 716 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: you don't tuck it in or something. It never looks great, 717 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: but it never looks bad. I have a question, what 718 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: is the difference between and Taylor and Eileen Fisher. Eileen 719 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Fisher is not where I grew up, but Eileen Fisher 720 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: is Island Fisher a brand that they would sell it 721 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: like Macy's or Dillard's or J. C. Penney or is 722 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: it its own? Yeah, and it is. I think maybe 723 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: Eileen Fisher is more elevated. But here so I lend 724 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 1: Fisher's whole thing is it's more like flowey and boxy. 725 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: It's like minimalist, cheek kind of for women who have 726 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,919 Speaker 1: naturally gray hair, whereas I think and Taylor is more 727 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: is like I mean, I don't know now, I don't 728 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just in my mind they 729 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: live those two ladies live in the same part of 730 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: them all. And Taylor, I would say, it is like 731 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: the Gap. It is not like because the Gap is 732 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: owned by the same company that owns Banana Republic and 733 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: Old Navy. It is not Banana Republic, but it is 734 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: not Old Navy. It's like, hey, we're if you like 735 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: Old Navy, you need to get the funk out of 736 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: the store. But it is like, yeah, it's it's again. 737 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: It's upper middle class. It's like it is and it's 738 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: very worry It's like it's worried about being middle class. Yes, 739 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: it's as like, do not let me in with those 740 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: other people. Okay, we're not doing anything that is associated 741 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: with the poores. We're not doing that, okay, so like 742 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: maybe like a splash of color, but nothing too bright. 743 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: Nothing if you were trying to disguise yourself as like 744 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: a mom somewhere, like I'm surprised, okay, here me in 745 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: Oceans eight. Right. It was all these women and they're like, 746 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: we need to be invisible for a period of time 747 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: to secure what we need to secure, and then we 748 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: need to become visible. What they could have done has 749 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: gone to truly any and Taylor, because it is like 750 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: nondescript neutrals that you'd be like, I don't remember what 751 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: she was wearing. I have not, like you could not 752 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: describe it to the cops. And that's perfect honestly. Yeah. Okay, yes, 753 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: it's camouflage for upper middle class white women. Yes exactly. 754 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: You will blend in seamlessly. You won't have to think 755 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: about it too much. Everything kind of goes with everything 756 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: because nothing is so specific that it would clash. Yeah. 757 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: Is it fear based dressing, Yes, it is it is. 758 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: Please do God, Please do God. Let me hold onto 759 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: the status that I have. I could lose everything at 760 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: every moment. My husband just don't look at me, but 761 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: not so much like, wow, it really kind of tells 762 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: the story of suburban sprawl and it is. I would say, 763 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: I feel like I have been called tragically straight and 764 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: it has been a part of my life this whole time. 765 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's quite straight. What would you say, 766 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: first of all, who called you tragically straight? I have 767 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: been called tragically straight and tragically horny. Yeah, wow, so's 768 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: quite called me tragically straight? Okay. Sam Morrison has called 769 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: me both. He constantly says I'm going to out you 770 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: canice because you're gay, and then he also says that 771 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: I am tragically straight. So I don't know. I feel 772 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: like you are someone who correct me if I'm wrong. 773 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: I think of you as someone who enjoys dating. I 774 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: don't know if I enjoy it as like does cigarette 775 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: smokers enjoy smoking. I think you're addicted to It's so 776 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: you're addicted to dating. I mean it's like, yeah, it's 777 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: like a thing where I'm like, oh, I don't know 778 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: what else to do, so I guess I'll doing this. 779 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't say that I enjoy Okay, okay, okay, 780 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I remember one time and sorry, this is 781 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: like years ago. We got brunched truly like four years ago, 782 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: and I remember we were talking about yours asolutions and 783 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: one of you and we can cut this out if 784 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: you don't want me to say it. One of yours 785 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: was like it was like a specific number. It was 786 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 1: like two dates a week or something. Oh yeah, yeah 787 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: right like that. To me, I'm like, oh, this is 788 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: it's like you enjoy the lifestyle and days with the 789 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: same person, Like I would love to have a person 790 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: that I am dating and we go on dates, versus 791 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: me like, truly, not, this is not I have. I 792 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: actually took January off dating. Um, I'll start again in 793 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: a week. We'll see what happens. Um. But yeah, it's uh, 794 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: it is more so been like Okay, I go on 795 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: one day to week, but it's with a different person 796 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: every time. So yeah. Interesting. My sister says I don't 797 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: like anybody, which she says is my underline high standards 798 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: for people. For sure. I certainly feel like wow when 799 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: talking to you, know, but I'm I'm like when talking 800 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: to you, I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna bring my a game. 801 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be like kind of 802 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: half in, half out what George, Okay, let me. Okay, 803 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: let's do you think so? Sam? I put it all 804 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: all the cards on the table. George, you're like hipper 805 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,479 Speaker 1: than hell. Okay, it is so frustrating, Like, oh God, 806 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: Like if I run into you and I look not 807 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: like at my best dressing, I feel bad about it 808 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: because I'm like, but George is cool and he's to 809 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: fucking know what he's like. Do you want to know something? 810 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: I sort of, God, this is true. About two months ago, 811 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,479 Speaker 1: I saw you across the street and you were wearing 812 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: you have, like I think it's like a bright colored 813 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: jacket that you have. You have. Yeah, it's something I recognized. 814 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: And I literally didn't stay high because I didn't look 815 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: good and I didn't want to, like, I didn't want 816 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: to interact. Wow, you guys are in like an arms 817 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: race with each other. You know, it's like who can 818 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: intimidate the other? I have intimidated Elexid. All right, well, 819 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: and now and you know what, now we have to 820 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: make a pack. Neither of us can know, like, isn't 821 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: inmidated any longer. You have to let it, let it go. Yeah, 822 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 1: you're still very cool. And I listened to an old episode, 823 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: Like an old episode was the episode Withal and you 824 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: do sound like you are being sarcastic and every I'm sorry, 825 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: especially with It's like it's like imagine me wanting to 826 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: ever be like Mockalia. It's hard. I just like, I mean, 827 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't help it. And this is what 828 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: its out like. This is how I was raised to 829 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: sound condescending to everyone anyway, Sam, Yeah, I just want 830 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: to go on the record and say I've always been 831 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: normal to both of you. I've never put you on 832 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: a pedestal, nor have I put you in a lower position. 833 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: I've seen you as you are and yeah, nothing more, 834 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: nothing less, you kind of. I think a good way 835 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: to be less intimidated of someone is to imagine them 836 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: wearing Ant Taylor. That works. That works. To return to it, 837 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: do you have you? Do you own things from Ann Taylor? 838 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 1: Do you and you like them? They are utility players 839 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: is what I would call them in a wardrobe. And 840 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't even think I've paid for 841 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: Ann Taylor loft or you stole it. Yeah, I have 842 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: clothing swaps every six months. We drink, we serve, serve 843 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: food like I have a bunch of clothing racks. We 844 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: set it up. It's a shopping I'm sorry, but this 845 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: again is more girls. I don't know. You're okay, you're 846 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: constantly dating, You're high school of the campus, and you're 847 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: doing You're literally doing You're like, you're literally I like this. 848 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how else does. I've never watched that show, 849 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: but I don't feel good about you saying I've never 850 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: wanted to do the like, um, I actually love that show. 851 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 1: But but sorry, continue on your clothing. But sometimes you 852 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: have to. But you'll see something and you're like, oh, 853 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: I guess that's like okay, I need something where it's 854 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 1: like now, like where it's like, okay, it's twenty degrees. 855 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: I'm a dress lady, but I'm gonna wear pants because 856 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't want my vagina to freeze off. So I 857 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: need some pants that are like gonna go with like 858 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: a bright top or something that's more of a statement piece, 859 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 1: not contradict with just like sit there and it just 860 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: comes into my wardrobe because of that. And oh, I 861 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,879 Speaker 1: take clothes from my sister. I have a twin sister, 862 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: and she and I whenever she comes to visit me, 863 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: she holds out her hand and I have to put 864 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: an item of clothing in her hand, and that's now 865 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: her item. And similarly, I go down to where she 866 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: lives and she will put an item of clothing in 867 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,479 Speaker 1: my hand, and it is often an Taylor. Wow, that's nice. 868 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: I have a question. What is Anne Taylor a loft? 869 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: And that's thank you for asking that because you guys 870 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: have not heard of answer. I haven't heard of it, 871 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: and I couldn't tell you like I've heard of it. 872 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: It's it's such I feel like it's such a kind 873 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: of like even just like in stand up it's such 874 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: a common punchline. It's like when someone wants to denote 875 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 1: that someone is a white woman, they're like, Aunt Taylor loft. 876 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: But I couldn't tell you what, Like what does the 877 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: loft ad? Okay, so you like Ann Taylor? Sometimes things 878 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: don't like it's like Nordstrom rack. Oh okay, okay, so 879 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: it's cheaper, Yes, it's the cheaper like here's like even 880 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: like kind of with this, like Target will sometimes pair 881 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 1: with designers to make something that's a little bit more interesting. 882 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: Those things if they don't sell at all, like the 883 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: worst part of those collaborations that would go to like 884 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: the Target version of an ant Taylor Loft. So like 885 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: things when like they step outside of the box and 886 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: they're like, actually, you know what, we do need to 887 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: stay right in our lane. Those things will end up 888 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: at and Taylor Loft. If they made like forty million 889 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: pairs of jeans and only thirty million of them sold 890 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 1: the restaurant and Taylor Loft. Yeah, it's it is the 891 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: discount slightly like Okay, I don't want to get a 892 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: find here, but this is interesting. Okay, maybe it was 893 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: tried on one too many times to me. A loft 894 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: I imagine fancy, Well, it's it's New York. It's it's 895 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 1: New York. I think aloft in like a deserted mill 896 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: loft in Albuquerque. Yes, yes, St. Louis okay, so kind 897 00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: of a secondary American. We got the main ones and 898 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: it's something that like I think it's meant to be, like, oh, 899 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: in those I feel like such a bit Boston. Is 900 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: Boston a secondary I'm not going you can dig this 901 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: all further if you're watching no please go in. I mean, 902 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: but there's famously that Onion article that's like people of 903 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: Boston wake up and play another game of Big City. Yes, 904 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 1: I love that. Um yeah, I feel like that is 905 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: supposed to make like Ann Taylor, you put that on 906 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: and you get to be like in this small town 907 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: high and the Queen Bee versus like actually, yes, you 908 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, okay, you know. Sometimes I 909 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 1: feel that New York has um skewed my perspective in 910 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: a way that is um not right. Like like I 911 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: remember thinking like j Crew was like the fanciest store 912 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 1: on earth and being like, well, I can maybe afford 913 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: one shirt from a Jay Crew, And now it's like 914 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: Jay Crew like okay, like midwestern mom, and it's like 915 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: it's so weird. How now I'm like, well, real clothes 916 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: are this and I don't necessarily like how um um 917 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: unrelatable we are becoming I will okay, I still wear 918 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: And if I don't even like I am poor, I'm 919 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: not poor. I just don't have a lot of money 920 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: and not a lot of disposable income. So like still, 921 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: to me, if someone was like pay full retail at 922 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: Jake Crew would be like, I don't know about that. 923 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: How about how did I get a thrift store of that? Yeah, 924 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: And it's that's a very good point because it's not 925 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,960 Speaker 1: even that I'm like rich and like over it. It's 926 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: more like conceptually, I just know now that it's like 927 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: look down on by people who are and and it's 928 00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: hard to like be forget that when you're Yeah, York 929 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: is largely about having strong opinions about brands. That's true, 930 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 1: stronger than everything. Just like I like this and this 931 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: is the way it should be, and I will demand 932 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: that from everyone around me. But there's also a way 933 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: to like, having strong opinions about brands is easier than 934 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: having strong opinions about like I don't know, you know, 935 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: art or books or you know whatever. So I feel 936 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: like that's like then it's a way for everyone to 937 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 1: feel like they're part of a conversation. I get that. Yeah, 938 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what are some brands that you guys like 939 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: that you know? And I brought a j Crew because 940 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: I do. I actually like Jake Crew and like I 941 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: think the clothes are fun, that Jacre is good. And 942 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: also Sam, you have you have those quarters from Jay 943 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 1: Crew that I went and tried on and they looked awful. 944 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: They're pleaded, they're a little wide legged. Yeah. There, And 945 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: I a bit of a challenge that please back back 946 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: form for men at least but I also think for women, 947 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: because I think for women right now, and correct me 948 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, But I feel like the row is 949 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: very in and very much like tailored. Oversized men's wear 950 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: for women is whatever one's gonna be wearing good for them. 951 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: I can't, I won't. I'm stuck in the past. I 952 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: accept it. Don't you think you look great and kind 953 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: of oversized? David Byrne. I can see it. I can 954 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: absolutely see it. I think that, Okay, that works if 955 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: you are shaped in a hangar like way, like if 956 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: you're like some like you have shoulders that existed, like 957 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: I have fixed shoulders, but the rest of me is 958 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: equally there. They want you to have like drapiness, and 959 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: it's not called drap you gotta drink, Yeah, it's gotta 960 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: like look how flowing it is around this person, not like, 961 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 1: oh wow, men's clothes just fit her. That that's sorry, 962 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: that's not that's not the look. You know. Whenever I 963 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: the gamele misogyny really jumps out whenever we start thinking 964 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: about like women's fashion for me, like, because I'm always like, okay, 965 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: imagine this, this is the look You're topless and but 966 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,399 Speaker 1: you're wearing suit pants and like it's like in little 967 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: pasteis and it's so it's so toxic. It's like, imagine this, 968 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: you're a dog. Yeah, you're a Barbie, but you're Gucci. 969 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: It's truly, I'm like, wow, my perception of what it 970 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: is to be a woman is like so messed up, 971 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: like someone being like do this but not like that, 972 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: and they just keep saying not like that. Yeah, yeah, 973 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's really Um, it's really tough because it 974 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,959 Speaker 1: is inherently objectifying, Like I don't know, it's yeah, yeah, 975 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm constantly repenting from my my unconscious misogyny. So in 976 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: that respect, is Ann Taylor. Um, and Taylor is a 977 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: feminist brand. It is not speaking to the gay mail gaze. No, no, 978 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: you know what. I like this, It is not It 979 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,919 Speaker 1: is not speaking to the game at all. I feel 980 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: like yeah, no, no, yeah, it's a woman saying I 981 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: am me and I'm going to shop for me, and 982 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm and I'm getting what's comfortable and looks good for me. Okay. Also, 983 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: I am afraid to step out of my lane. I 984 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: could never wear that shop at Antony. Okay, let me 985 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: hear so. Sam. At some point you asked if it 986 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: was fear based, and I'm like, Okay, if you're not empowered, 987 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 1: it's fear based because you're trying to hide. But if 988 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: you are empowered, it is empowering because you don't care 989 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: about the mail gaze, which kind of complicates the whole narrative. 990 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: It does, and I like this complication right, Like it 991 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: can be. It's either empowering or it's like, don't look 992 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: at me, I'm a dumby. I mean, intention is everything, 993 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, And we should screen every single person 994 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: that enters an Taylor Loft and and sort of hit 995 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: them with that. We should ask are you empowered? Are you? 996 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: Are you empowered? Are you afraid? I guess that is 997 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of like the condition of the upper middle class 998 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: white woman is it's constantly wavering between empowered and afraid. Yeah. 999 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know personally, but I think it is. Yeah, 1000 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: because as we're literally talking to a consumer of these products, 1001 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: and yet I keep I keep whitewashing the clientele. I think, 1002 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: how do I put this? My mom, like other people, 1003 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: was trying to assimilate in certain ways. She worked in tech, 1004 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: she worked in management, and it is like, yes, I 1005 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 1: fit in with you. All right, And so she had 1006 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: a collection of cardigans that she wore the and she 1007 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 1: had like the weird sleeveless under the sweater and then 1008 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: the cardigan that goes over it. And she had enough 1009 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: of these that my older sister wrote the Queen Latifa 1010 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: Show and had them fly my mom to the and 1011 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: they gave her a makeover and sent her on dates 1012 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: and on National TV. My older sister just roasted my 1013 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: mom about all of these and Taylor Cars, I can't 1014 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 1: believe to bring this. I know this is the lead, 1015 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it is for that like I am, 1016 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: I can assimilate. I am like all and I think 1017 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 1: so that like it is mostly thought of like as 1018 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: white women, but women from other places, women of other 1019 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: groups are also like, oh ship, I gotta make these 1020 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: white people feel comfortable, right, you got to hit up 1021 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: and Taylor, Yeah, gotta hit up and Taylor, I can't 1022 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: believe your mom was on TV going on dates and 1023 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 1: getting a makeover. Was she was she upset about better? 1024 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Or was it fun? Or I mean she was like, 1025 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: okay for a trip to New York. Okay, Like that 1026 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: sounds doable. It sounds much more doable than like Queer Eye, 1027 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 1: like Queen Latifa would be supportive. She was, although I mean, 1028 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't love the makeup choices that they made. But 1029 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: it was the nineties. Was the late nineties of the 1030 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: early two thousands, I can't remember, um, but yeah, she 1031 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: went on a date with this guy and then she 1032 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: was like talking about how like he was nice, but 1033 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't really into him, she didn't really feel it. 1034 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: And then they like did a big reveal that she 1035 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 1: went on a date with Queen Latifa's dade on her 1036 01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Like the guy that you went on a date with 1037 01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: is my day? That is so insane, saying the fuck 1038 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: this story keeps getting so much weirder. Can not believe this. 1039 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 1: Queen Lativa needs to be on trial at the Hey, 1040 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: what the hell did how did it conclude? Did they 1041 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: like did they keep in touch? They hope? I'm sorry 1042 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: it's also played pool on their date. I imagine your 1043 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: mom and I mean, I don't want to spect it 1044 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: about anyone's age, but like, I imagine your mom is 1045 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: closer to age and Queen with Queen Latifa than with 1046 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: her dad. No, her dad was older than my mom, 1047 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: but like not that much. Maybe, Okay, okay, Okay. There's 1048 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: just something about like to me, if I'm your mom 1049 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: and I'm talking to Queen Latifa, I'm like, okay, we're girls. 1050 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Were gabbing like we're equals. So it really fucks up 1051 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the paradynamic to be like I'm your step daughter now 1052 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: bit or like you can't talk bad about this person 1053 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 1: because my dad. What a fucking twist. That is insane. 1054 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 1: That's incredible. Wow. You know there's a new m Yvonne 1055 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Orgy is hosting a new show where the kids of 1056 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: divorced parents set up their parents. So it's like or 1057 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: either divorced or widowed or whatever like single parents. So 1058 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,480 Speaker 1: it's like some guys dad is being set up with 1059 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: some girls mom and then like that's the premise of 1060 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the show. I love it already, I'll watch it, which 1061 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: I do think is it's actually it's one of those 1062 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: things where it's like how has that, how has this 1063 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: not been done already? Like it's so inherently heartwarming. Yeah. Anyway, well, Television, 1064 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: huge shout out to television. Just keep making it, just 1065 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: keep making it. Um the final yeah, I think so, 1066 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, can you have to go to the theater? So, 1067 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean she literally has to get to the theater. Um, 1068 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: get her to the Greek. Get me, Well, you haven't 1069 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: been hanging out with me? Well with George, everything's Greek, 1070 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: am I. Everything's great to me. But it's about the movie. 1071 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Get into the Greek. Um. Okay. Well, final segment it's 1072 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: called Shoutouts. In it, we pay homage to the classic 1073 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,320 Speaker 1: street edition of a radio shout out and shout out 1074 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: to anything that we are enjoying. Um, you know, sort 1075 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: of in the style of t r L. It's two 1076 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: thousand one and you're shouting out to your squad back home. Um, 1077 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 1: just about anything that we like. Um, George, you don't 1078 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: happen to have one, do you? I'll do one. It'll 1079 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: be earnest. I don't have like a funny woman play 1080 01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: what's up freaks and losers out there? I want to 1081 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to Bridget Everett. Bridget Everett's 1082 01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: new show just premiered on HBO. And let me tell 1083 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: you something about this woman. I saw her live one 1084 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 1: in San Francisco at a dive bar, and she literally 1085 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 1: got this was fully a dive bar. She got up 1086 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 1: on the bar and stage dove in a dive bar 1087 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: to approximately twelve people that were at that show. It 1088 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: was one of the most exhilarating things I've ever seen 1089 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: in my life. I literally decided I was going to 1090 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 1: pursue comedy that night. She is an absolute genius. She 1091 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: is maybe my favorite live performer of any medium. I 1092 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: worship the ground she walks on and stradios. We have 1093 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: to make the show a hit. We have to make 1094 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: the show a hit. We're counting on you go watch 1095 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,360 Speaker 1: Bridget Ever It's new HBO show to It also has 1096 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Hiller. Is a nice person. Yes, we love Jeff Hiller. Um, okay, 1097 01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: what's up everybody out there. I am Sam first and foremost, 1098 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: and I just want to give a huge, ernest shout 1099 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: out to um f K A Twigs. I just want 1100 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: to say she has new music out and I'm so 1101 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: grateful for it. I consider myself an FK twigs Head 1102 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: until I listened to her music and I'm like, oh, 1103 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm fully an FK twigs Head. Every album I love, 1104 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: and this one is um playful, accessible. It's I can 1105 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: recommend it to my brother and not be like he's 1106 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: gonna find this annoying, and I think that is powerful 1107 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,439 Speaker 1: and I love watching videos of her dance, I wish 1108 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: my body moves like that. She is an icon, she 1109 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: is a legend, and for some reason she seems humble. 1110 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I love you fka Twigs. I would I would like to, hey, 1111 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: what's up people in the universe? I would like to 1112 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,800 Speaker 1: shout out loungeware and sleepwear, which I didn't really invest 1113 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: in before, but now I have matching posama sets in 1114 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: several robes and kimonos and it's pretty fucking dope. I 1115 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: love it. Uh, they're comfortable there, they look good, I think. 1116 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: But I also like in Taylor, so you can tell 1117 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: me that I'm dommediate, but yeah, shout out to loungeware. 1118 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: What's up? Who Oh? I love what A wide variety 1119 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,880 Speaker 1: of that out today, kind of a little bit of everything. God, 1120 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: I do love loungewear. Do you know what? When I 1121 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: best friends from college at some point founded that they 1122 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 1: have since folded, but founded a company, and the premise 1123 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: was it's pajamas that you can also wear outside, So 1124 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: it's like matching pajama sets, but they're also makes and 1125 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 1: match and you can wear the shirts outside. Yeah, I'm 1126 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: sorry to your friend, nothing but respect, I'm sure it's 1127 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: hard to start a business, but I hate it you're 1128 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: already here at first fo. Yeah. Sorry, you know I'm 1129 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: treating everyone like an equal. I'm being honest Sam Taggard 1130 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 1: against female entrepreneurs. Okay, well now I know that she's 1131 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: a woman, and um, I love it. I think it's 1132 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: an incredible for him. You think it's a sli it's 1133 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: a slid and um yeah whatever, I'm not gonna make 1134 01:06:52,800 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 1: that all right, Okay, well, thank you, absolute joy f