WEBVTT - History and Future 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.039 What's going on y'all? Thanks for tuning into another episode 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:10.040 of Street Politicians, the place with the streets of politics 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.200 meet on my song and I'm to make a d 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.400 mallory and again, thank you for coming back. You know, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.200 this is the place where we agree to disagree almost 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:23.520 every single show. But you know, we appreciate the fact 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:28.160 that our audience is learning with us. We're all learning together, right, 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.960 we know we have so much learning to do and 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:35.240 so much information to share. Uh. This week of Street 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:40.280 Politicians gonna cover a few different topics. Number One, I 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.919 want to talk about some things that we've seen on 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:50.960 the internet around Dwayne Wade's son daughter, excuse me, Zia UM. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.320 And we won't necessarily talk about Dwayne Wade and Zia, 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.760 but it's also brought up some other conversations about UM 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:04.840 children and and lgbt I lgbt I A No, it's 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:11.880 lgbt q I A plus expressions and experiences for children. Uh. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.240 Talking about that, We're gonna cover a little bit of 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.679 the Harvey Weinstein situation. Obviously, he's been found guilty. I'm 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:24.240 so excited about that because I am so tired of 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.000 hearing people say, but what about Harvey Weinstein. When we 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:31.400 want to talk about r. Kelly and Bill Cosby and 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:36.360 other incidents where black folks have been found to do 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:42.720 inappropriate things to women. Uh. The anniversary of the Selma Jubilee, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.679 which is the bridge crossing that happens in Selma, Alabama 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.400 every year. If you watched the movie Selma, you saw 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.680 where John Lewis and Dr King and others attempted to 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.360 walk across that bridge. They finally got over the bridge. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.720 A battle for voting rites down in Alabama. Mu Uh, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.760 And it's a it's a part of our history that 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.640 is extremely powerful. We're gonna talk about it's anniversary action 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:12.920 Bloody Sunday, bloody because many were beaten. John Lewis when 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.920 we look at him right now, he has a visible 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:20.200 scar that came Congressman John Lewis, the Great um and 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.160 and it came from Bloody Sunday. So we're gonna be 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.359 there this weekend and we'll talk a little bit about that, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.280 and then my son's gonna tell you about what he 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.320 doesn't get because he doesn't get anything at all. You 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.440 don't get into me. I don't get it. Some stuff 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.360 I just don't get right. But you know, I had 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.519 thought of the day um as I was just thinking, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:46.440 like centering myself for the conversation around the gender and 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.799 lgbt q I A plus expressions dialogue. The thought that 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.200 came to me is that there has to be spaces 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:00.720 for black and brown, but as a black person and 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:04.040 as a black mother of a black son, safe spaces 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.240 for us to have some real conversations, like we really 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.040 need to get in rooms where we have people who 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.120 come from all the different identities, um, black men who 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.919 are feeling attacked, um and and and also feeling just 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:25.240 unsure about this moment because I think that just as 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.760 we say we don't want to have division between black 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.000 women and black men, we also don't want to have 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:35.080 division between black men based upon who loves who, or 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.520 who lives a certain way or who has a certain expression. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.880 But I can understand how on all different sides people 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:47.600 feel extremely offended and also afraid of what is coming, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.240 what's happening around us that we don't know. UM. So 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:56.040 I think there has to be spaces where there's real 0:03:56.360 --> 0:04:00.520 safe dialogue because we're not gonna always agree. Have three 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:05.360 very important friends, Yandy and I share these friends, very 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:09.080 special people to me and in conversation that we were 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.400 having just this week, I saw the different levels of 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:18.120 pain and experience. They're all three different men who identify 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.200 as gay, um, and they are just and and everyone. 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.320 In the conversation that we were having, it was it 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.840 was really powerful and there was a lot there, a 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.960 lot of pain, a lot of expression, a lot of laughter. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.800 But what I appreciated the most is that they allowed 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.880 me to be ignorant enough to learn. So I asked 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:42.320 stupid questions, I probably made stupid statements, um, And they 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.880 helped to educate me. And when I walked away from it, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.960 I knew more. I felt empowered, And I also felt 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:53.040 that I could go out now and encourage and inspire 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.880 another person who may be in the walking through life 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.080 unsure about these topics, not just because they're gay, but 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.120 because they just might not even understand where they fit 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.080 in the dialogue. So I just think, you know, the 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.840 thought of the day today is if we really love 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.720 all our people, we have to find a way to 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.200 have conversations where all our people feel safe in those 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:21.240 in that dialogue. And I agree with that on you know, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.120 like I have, I share a couple of those friends 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:26.960 that you're speaking of and a lot of times we 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.880 don't we especially as black men, coming from where we 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.800 come from in our communities. Um, there are so much confusion, 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.400 you know what I'm saying, Like they say that that 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.240 black community is just homophocus, and I don't know if 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.440 that's the exact term. I just sometimes it might be ignorance. 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.240 You know a lot of times people are ignorance and 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.480 they say things out of ignorance. You know, we were 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.080 raised a certain way, and you gotta unlearned to learn sometimes, 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.200 you know. So when you start to embrace people and 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:59.760 you realize that the reality is that everybody has um 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:04.839 different ideologies, different beliefs, different understandings, and you can agree 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.320 to disagree. You don't have to um want to harm somebody. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.680 You don't have to think something is crazy with them. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.160 You don't have to see them as some type of 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.160 foreign object or some type of foreign person. And I 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.240 think when you sit back and you unwrap and you 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.840 unpacked these things that most of the time people are 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.800 just human beings, you know, And I think that's most 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.040 of the people people, I mean all the time. You 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.000 basically we just all human beings, and we just everybody 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.320 wants to exist. You know what I'm saying. I think 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.080 the fight to exist is where where we you know, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.400 we find this this tug of war, and I think 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 we've got to have safe spaces. You know. Um, I 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.800 went to my social media, you know, and me and 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.280 you was having this conversation and I posted so and 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.000 it has nothing to do with sexuality. Well, you know, 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.240 I mean, but I don't really think that. I don't 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.840 think because at the end of the day, people have 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.680 the right to exist as their full selves. I'm saying, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.800 if you're gay, if you're lesbian, if you're training, whatever 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.640 it is, that your reality is. That is your reality, 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.080 and you should love yourself. You should love whoever you love. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.400 But it's not even Somebody had a comment on your 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.320 page that I thought, let me finish, but I was 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.320 just gonna say. Somebody had a comment on your page 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.000 that said, the reason why a lot of folks who 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.760 are gay or who come from that community. And by 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.440 the way, I have my someone very close to me 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.800 told me that the use of l g B, t 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.360 q I A doesn't also represent everyone as well. So 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.160 there's a lot of learning that we all can do. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.040 But someone wrote on your page that the reason why 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.640 people who come from these communities feel a way is 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.000 not because they don't love themselves, but because the world 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.960 doesn't love them. The world treats them a certain type 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.440 of way. Well, that's and that comes from ignorance. It 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.520 comes from learning, you understand, I'm saying, when you start 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.520 to identify something that is new to you, people fear 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.440 what they don't understand, you know. So that is comes 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.720 from learning. And I think we're at a different time. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.160 I think we're in a different space where we're learning 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.000 more every day. I think, you know, the l g B, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:14.240 t q I A plus community is becoming something that's 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:16.680 way more visible. You know that we have to have 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.640 conversations about we have to educate ourselves about the realities 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:26.320 of the situation. And I also think it also it 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.400 brings up different topics like the one that on my page. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.280 It's like, I'm for me, you know when I look 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.480 at this, when I look at the topic that I 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.440 put on my page. What is the lady's name again? 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:47.160 Celebrity woman And if people want Shelie Stern, Yes, she 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.640 has um. She has two adopted black children, one is 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.880 a young girl. And I want to stay first. The 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.959 post states that she has two young black boys that 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.160 she identifies that she had died and identify as as girls. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.880 But it's the only one one of them was born 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:10.520 a girl. And then the other one she identifies, she identifies. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:15.199 See that's what I'm saying about the education child, not 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:20.120 the mother and the mother. The mother said that, okay, 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.480 And this is what this is what my issue is, 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.800 and that is the whole question. Right. So this the 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:34.719 article states that at three years old, sure at least realize, yes, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.840 please look it up. You can look it up. It's 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.600 not can we get some help from the producers? Look 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.280 up the article that talks she talks about it, and 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.320 you know, at three years old, how do you identify 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.559 as any gender? You know? And and that that's what 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.800 my concern is. My concern is that at three, I 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.880 don't even remember what I was thinking. At three, I don't. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.800 I don't, I don't. I didn't have the ability to 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.280 discern information that was pretty much common sense at three. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:15.040 So how as a parent do you give the ability 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:21.760 of to a child to identify agenda that is different 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:27.520 then there? Genitel is? How do how do you how 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.920 do you give because you're not gonna say If the 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.520 child says, you know what, I don't want to go 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.679 to school, you look like what what what do you 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.280 mean you don't want to go to school. If the 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.240 child says I want to drive a car, you're not 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.839 gonna say You're gonna be like, I'm not letting you 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.600 drive a car. But all those things. See, this is why, 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.960 this is why I think, this is why I feel 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.839 like we have to be able to sit. It's nothing 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.719 about us without us, right, and I think we have 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.600 to special. You want to tell you what you want 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.679 me tell you why in this situation, it's not the 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:05.720 same because we are What we're saying is that, um, gender, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.559 these are normal things, right we we were saying this 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.640 is normal. It's just a difference right where and when 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.720 we have a conversation with every normal individual like LGBT 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.000 and trans are normal people, right, This is not This 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.559 is not something that is any type of dysfunction or anything. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.839 This is normal. Is just different. Right. When we have 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:31.160 a conversation with headal sexual people, they will tell you 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.360 not not a tend of them or probably tendor A 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:35.800 tend them will tell you that at three years old 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.719 they were not able to identify gender somebody had to, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.599 they learned that. They will tell you that it's not 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.880 it doesn't even make sense to be able to identify 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.319 we're saying that if we're saying that the trans that 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.959 the trans community has a different level of understanding, it's 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.719 not a different level of understanding. It's an experience that 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.800 only a person who has been through it understands and 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.120 or who is experience who is going through it only 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:12.520 they And I think I think that common No, it is. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.360 But what I'm saying is that it's not common sense 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.079 to us because we haven't been through it. Just like 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.600 we just know what I'm trying to say as a man. 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.520 But it's not about identifying your gender. It's not about 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.679 identifying that. It's about the fact that just like at 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.760 three years old, two years old, you can look at 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.199 your child and say, this child is going to be 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:40.319 a great artist, or this child is going to be 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.640 a great uh you know, singer, or or or look 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.680 at how they build things already you can see their 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.520 handwork and eye coordination with a ball and and they jump. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.959 They already have it. It's something about the child that 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.599 exists that gives you the impression or gives you a 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.640 feeling that you know what this this child has something 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:07.800 that is maybe and and also who pool constructed normal 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.000 because that's another thing that I think we're in the 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.640 process of confronting right now, that normalcy to us has 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.680 been defined a certain way that does not make room 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:26.920 for people's differences. And no, but but what I'm saying 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.600 is that there are people who made from the child 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.920 time that a child is three years old or four 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.920 years old, feel that they see in their child something 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.679 that that they know is very different from maybe even 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.199 what they experience. And as a result of that, you 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:51.280 have parents who watch it and don't try to suppress it. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.679 But I understand that there are some people who said, well, 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.319 how far do you go to push the child or 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.520 the person towards when ever you believe that they should be. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.240 There are people out here that train their child from 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.120 two years old. They read certain types of books to 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.760 them to help them on the journey towards being a 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.800 lawyer or a doctor or whatever it is. Especially if 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.439 they see in their child something that's like, oh, maybe 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.560 this is gonna be let's work on this. Then maybe 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.920 when they get older the like, uh, I don't know, 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.120 maybe that wasn't it or maybe it is. Let's see 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.080 what I'm trying to tell you that that right there, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.160 you can't do that with a kid, because what I'm 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.520 trying to tell you you you you don't that. To me, 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.440 that borders on child abuse when you when you decide 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.560 that you see something in the child that you might 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.320 just be wanting to see that in the child. Right, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:45.280 that goes that goes this. I'm just saying, I'm just 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.240 asking this is a question decided what is right? What 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.960 I'm saying, it's not about right as a boy. That's 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.280 what I think the big debate is around and why 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:02.800 we need to have this conver sation with other individuals 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.840 who come from different types of gender expressions because I 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:11.440 don't even do this decision that the way we've been 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.240 doing it all our lives is right. But that's what 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.160 I'm trying to say, and I'm not saying and if 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.360 if the way we've been doing it is wrong, then 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.960 then we're wrong. Right, then we're wrong if we if 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.880 we've been raising you know, but I think is this 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.320 there are certain if it's not, it's different, right, if 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.520 there's certain genitalia on you that you don't identify with, right, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.560 that's worn that way. Listen to me, but just listen 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.840 to me. It is because if you identify with a woman, 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.520 if you identify as a man and you identify as 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.920 a woman, if you're born a male and you find 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:46.200 that you identify as a woman, that you feel as 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.040 a woman, then your penis is something that you're not 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.440 really comfortable that that's not true. That's what I'm so, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.200 how could you so that's what? That's what But that's 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.800 what I'm what I'm trying, that's been saying. That's why 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.480 it is important when we have these conversations. No, because 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.200 I have heard, when speaking directly to people who are trans, 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.320 people who have gone through through this or who live 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:16.120 in this experience every day, their genitalia is the last 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.200 thing that matters in terms of what it is that 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.920 they're experiencing and what they're going through and what they're feeling. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.280 And we're so caught up on if you have a penis, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.520 then you're this and if you have a vagina, then 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.560 that's not you. But if you are the one who 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.360 brought up genitalia, And what I'm saying is that what 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.480 I've heard, and that's why I think again, I think 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.120 I think it is I'm in a different I'm in 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.120 the wrong body. This is right, So listen, So listen 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.760 to what I'm saying to you. If you're telling me 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.680 you're in the wrong body, is your genitalia and in 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.840 parts of your body that are specific to a man 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.800 not they're not. They don't have something that. Don't say 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.800 I'm necessarily in the wrong body. They just say that 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.879 I know that the way that I feel most comfortable 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:11.359 is an address or more feminine being, more expressing more 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.879 of my feminine side and my feminine traits. And again, 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.119 I think the larger conversation because the point of me 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:24.080 opening this up is not to say that, uh that 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.440 I agree or don't agree, or no, or don't know, 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.560 because I don't know. But what I do think is 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:34.919 that as leaders who have multiple types of people following us, 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.000 believing in us, wanting to fight alongside us, I think 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.720 that it makes sense that when we're having these conversations 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:47.080 that we have the people who experience these these different feelings, 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:48.960 whether it be the one who feels I'm in the 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.040 wrong body, the one who feels that it's not so 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:58.280 much about my body. But but white folks should never 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:04.800 sit down and analyze race and issues about black people 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.000 without having black people as part of the converse. I 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.359 hear what you're saying. What I'm trying to say is 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:15.080 it's like everything right. When something becomes normalize, when something 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:19.040 comes common, it becomes the new topic that people are 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.880 talking about. There are situations where it is pushed. There 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.240 are situations where people grap onto the normal. They want 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.879 to be a part of what's popular. There are situations 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.320 where that happens. And I'm asking, how do we protect 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.920 children from being trained no, they want to be a part. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.440 Maybe they want to be a part of being comfortable 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.040 in the trans community. Maybe they want to be a 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:45.000 part of making their children, or maybe they wanted to 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.640 have a girl and decided they had a boy. How 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.520 do we protect children against things like this? Is what 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.679 I'm trying to say, because how do we know? How 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.560 do we when when when we start saying that a 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.399 three year old is capable of deciding that there is 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:04.399 different than the one that their bodies. This is what 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.080 the woman said. She said at three years old, that 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.959 the woman told her she was a boy. I mean 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:16.280 she was a girl, yes, or she's still a boy, yes, 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:22.760 right know, she's she's she exactly, so this is what 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:27.760 she said. Okay, so what I'm asking and this is 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.440 my total thing. It has nothing to do with adults, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.680 even teenagers, because at teenage, at teenage, I was aware 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.320 of my own sexuality. I was comfortable with who I was, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.159 I identified with what I was. I was able to 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:43.560 make decisions based on learning and feeling like, you're this 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.280 same really for me. So in that space at a 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.760 teenage years you you you come to in to understand 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.359 your gender, your sexuality, your body. There things that you 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.119 you identify and you say, well, this is what I like, 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:56.800 this what I don't like, and that's what I'm what 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.320 I'm saying. That's why I consistently said that there may 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.320 be a person who is twenty years old right now 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.879 who says, since I was that small, these are the 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.680 things that I experienced that let it be known to 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.639 me that I was different, or that I may be 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.640 trands or whatever. And I wish that my parents would 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.080 not have tried to force me into whatever else they 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.080 felt was a norm, because maybe when I was three 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.840 and four, I was already saying I don't like uh, 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.760 you know, I don't like basketball. I want to play 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:34.680 with dogs I don't like. But that's not really true, 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.560 because at three or four I was playing with dogs 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.440 and I had a sister, and I still play with 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.399 the basketball and when she came with her dolls, I 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.959 played with the dogs, but the children. And what I'm 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:46.840 trying to tell you is that we also have to 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.880 protect children from their parents forcing their truth or their 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:57.680 from every part of the spectrum, not just from why 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:59.600 are you going to allow her to wear a dress, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.879 but also why would you force her in the pants? 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.399 If that's why do you force him to go to school? 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.080 Why do you why do you force him to listen 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.040 to you? Why do you force him? But listen to me, 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.680 And this is a conversation. I'm glad you said that 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.840 because every person that is from the LGBT community, a 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.280 lot of them tell me that the life that they 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.800 were boring into is a painful life. If they could 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.840 have chosen, most of them said, this is not the 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:26.800 life that I've chosen. This is how it's born, So 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.679 listen to me. So if you make a decision based 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.560 on a person who's living in a life that's telling 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.960 you that they've been dealing with turmoil in pain their 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.760 whole life right, And you look at a three and 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.560 a four year old and you've made a decision that 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:45.560 this three or four year old said something to you, 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.480 and you're deciding that I'm going to let a three 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.520 year old who has no ability to discern yes, let 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.879 because you you're in charge of this, this child. You 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.320 you're in child in charge of a child. If a 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.200 child says I'm not doing this, you have as a parent, 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:06.119 you have a parental abilities, you have parental responsibilities. So 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.400 when do we give when do we give the parents 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:15.080 some level of control over how they interact with a 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.840 child who's telling them at three years old that they're 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.920 not the sex that they I'm going to I mean 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:25.959 to say this to you again. That means that you've decided, 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:28.960 first of all, that a certain way of life is 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:33.879 harmful or that it's bad. It's not. That's not what's 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:36.639 because I don't want you to. But you can't say that. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.480 Let me finish saying what I'm saying. The reason why 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.359 I'm saying that you've decided that is because that's not 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:45.320 what I've decided. I'm saying that if you have having 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:53.240 based on conversations, and the conversation is exactly what I 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.440 just told you was on your page, the person said, 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:01.760 as a trans person. It's not me, it's the way 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.119 the world treats me. So what Alicia Keys was saying 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.960 when she was talking about her her beautiful son and 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.680 him wanting to wear nail polish, what she was saying 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.720 is I wish he could live in a world where 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.560 people just wouldn't judge him. It's not I want to 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.360 change him. It's not that I want to stop him 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:22.560 from being who he is. It's not that I want 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.359 to stop that child from being free. I want you, 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.760 not you, but you people to stop judging him. It'sn't 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:31.879 so to the way in which we look at it, 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.560 what we're what you're saying without maybe you don't recognize it, 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.560 but what you're saying is we need to suppress the child, 0:23:39.040 --> 0:23:42.600 or let me just finish, Let me just finish. Can 0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:47.760 but can I can? I? Can I just finish saying 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:51.800 what I'm saying because raising the child maybe that I'm 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:55.159