Speaker 1: You hear that.
Speaker 2: It's easy to hear us because we're not an NBA
Speaker 2: con anymore, and that means summer league has wrapped up
Speaker 2: and teams are pretty much set barring any late summer deals.
Speaker 1: So let's take a look forward and discuss, you know,
Speaker 1: some potential betting strategies because Jack.
Speaker 2: And I we were in Vegas and we were kind
Speaker 2: of checking out the betting odds and we were wondering
Speaker 2: how do we win? And we're gonna do that with
Speaker 2: NBA analysts and expert sports Better Jamison Welsh on today's episode.
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this.
Speaker 2: Is well, okay, three years Davis here you mb.
Speaker 1: Driving spinning Curry a three punter.
Speaker 3: Stop Curry from town again?
Speaker 4: Be honest the okay got a shot time?
Speaker 1: Don't you get to be honest?
Speaker 2: Jamison Welsh, you've provided NB analysis for ESPN, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: Uh and for the past.
Speaker 2: Decade you've been you know, your respected sports better.
Speaker 1: You're originally from southern California, now in Vegas. How are you?
Speaker 1: And welcome to the show man.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well, fellas. Thanks for the great intro.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of energy I love it makes for
Speaker 5: like I'm in the room at y'all, so it's definitely
Speaker 5: good to hear.
Speaker 4: But no, man, it's it's hot.
Speaker 5: Like it just got hot in Vegas a week before
Speaker 5: summer lea, like right when July came. It got hot before,
Speaker 5: like the longest streak of under one hundred degree days,
Speaker 5: and now it's extremely hot to where you don't want
Speaker 5: to do much outside, to be inside of a.
Speaker 4: Building and with on. But it's other than the heat.
Speaker 4: We're all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And why has bettor spelled that way b
Speaker 3: E T T O R instead of e R? Is
Speaker 3: it just to prevent it from being like better, like
Speaker 3: the real thing?
Speaker 4: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: I like it. It's like playwright, where like playwright is so
Speaker 3: pretentious that they like spell it like in the weirdest way,
Speaker 3: like w R I.
Speaker 1: G h T Yeah, call yourself better or roar or.
Speaker 3: Like you're a New Zealand prison saying that auror.
Speaker 1: Jamisoner, did you get Do you check out any of
Speaker 1: the Summer League? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, I have to.
Speaker 5: I mean it's one of the things that I mean,
Speaker 5: being here since four I've literally seen Summer League be
Speaker 5: in the small gym being a thing that people didn't
Speaker 5: know about to be a worldwide production. Like literally ESPN
Speaker 5: came in twenty seventeen and changed everything. But here's the
Speaker 5: thing people don't realize. It wasn't twenty seventeen when things changed.
Speaker 5: It was the wigginsbry Parker showdown game about ten years ago.
Speaker 5: Is when everything changed. That was literally the beginning. Because
Speaker 5: they put that game in the small gym. The fire
Speaker 5: marshall had to come in and come, hey, no more
Speaker 5: people in and the press row was so bad that
Speaker 5: the electric the sockets didn't have power in them.
Speaker 4: That's how bad. Well, that's why.
Speaker 3: It started, like a nb A game in the nineteen
Speaker 3: fifties and they were like playing in dress shoes.
Speaker 1: Put more coal in the generator. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: It was so bad that the literally people if they
Speaker 5: went to the bathroom, they couldn't come back in.
Speaker 4: That's how bad it was. Oh wow.
Speaker 5: But the funniest part of that whole game is people
Speaker 5: finally got to see Janna Fontonakupo and now you know
Speaker 5: he's a generational player, one of the best players of
Speaker 5: our lifetime and all that.
Speaker 4: At the time, he was an afterthought.
Speaker 5: It was Wiggins and Jerry Parker were one and two
Speaker 5: and they were supposed to be the future of the league.
Speaker 5: And Giannis was playing in year two before he went
Speaker 5: to Greece to go players for his national team. Uh
Speaker 5: for the summer So yeah, very very fun fact that's
Speaker 5: when something took off. Everything else from there has been extra.
Speaker 5: But it's always a great time when people come to
Speaker 5: Vegas for NBA.
Speaker 4: A lot different people, a lot of her connections. It's
Speaker 4: always a good time.
Speaker 3: Have you ever made a bet based on how someone
Speaker 3: looked at summer league? Like on like do you do
Speaker 3: NBA futures like results? Like do you do you gamble
Speaker 3: on who's gonna win the title in the offseason?
Speaker 5: I gamble a lot, all right, So let me just
Speaker 5: say I can't remember. For station casinos, I go to
Speaker 5: Red Rock. It's close to where I live, so out
Speaker 5: with the Red Rock Casino. They do good work, a
Speaker 5: lot of good people there. I've been a lot, been
Speaker 5: a chairman for over ten years there. It's one of
Speaker 5: those things to where if you see something you kind
Speaker 5: of just notated saying, hmmm, interesting.
Speaker 4: Let's take note of that.
Speaker 5: When it comes to certain rookies like Donovan Mitchell had
Speaker 5: a very good Summer League in twenty seventeen. However, no
Speaker 5: one was talking about him because of the classics are
Speaker 5: part of We were talking about Lonzo Ball, Jason Tatum,
Speaker 5: all those players, but Dominald Mitchell was just killing and
Speaker 5: he was playing on the Jazz and no one's paying
Speaker 5: attention to the Jazz. Like certain things, you just kind
Speaker 5: of notate and see what's what. But at a lot
Speaker 5: of times in Summer League, you gotta take some money
Speaker 5: for what it is. Summer League it favor of certain
Speaker 5: type of players rather than others, so you have to
Speaker 5: kind of understand that as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, I'm an expert gambler. Or I
Speaker 3: made one bet on the floor at the casino when
Speaker 3: we were in Vegas weeks ago when we were there
Speaker 3: for Summer League, because this is coming out in the future,
Speaker 3: and I put twenty forty dollars I think on the
Speaker 3: eleven to one part of the roulette table, and I
Speaker 3: thought that meant like if the ball lands in numbers
Speaker 3: eleven to one, and it actually meant if it did
Speaker 3: zero or double zero. But it hit and I didn't
Speaker 3: realize it. I was like, wait, so I'm why why
Speaker 3: is he giving me those chips?
Speaker 1: That's a lot of chips.
Speaker 3: And then I took I took that money and I
Speaker 3: put one hundred dollars of it on the Oklahoma City
Speaker 3: Thunder to win the title based on chat looking good.
Speaker 1: In this summer league, in the summer league only.
Speaker 5: So for most people out there, you guys don't understand,
Speaker 5: this is normally the downtime of the betting world because
Speaker 5: right this balls on All Star break, NBA is not
Speaker 5: you know, is finished. W n b A has their
Speaker 5: All Star Break this week. Uh NFL as it started.
Speaker 5: Yet this is normally the time where most professional betters
Speaker 5: going vacation because bet on.
Speaker 4: So that is very very well inness check behavior.
Speaker 5: If you're better league, you might need to send a
Speaker 5: wellness check just to make sure everything's okay over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean, just.
Speaker 4: They do the thing.
Speaker 5: The money is real, like you can put a parlay together.
Speaker 5: If you win your ticket, you're good. And some people
Speaker 5: who literally bet some league, they look at all the
Speaker 5: numbers and everything and they bet some league. I don't
Speaker 5: know why they do it, but they do it. And
Speaker 5: it's uh, it's interesting to say the.
Speaker 3: Least so savvy sharp how would you describe what I
Speaker 3: did there with the Okaye bet based.
Speaker 5: Here's the bigges issue you're gonna have. If they decide
Speaker 5: to pull their good players, you're screwed. Like you're looking
Speaker 5: on the surface and they say they come out, you know,
Speaker 5: Wednesday or Thursday, say oh chat, we've skin enough, We're good.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm talking about winning the NBA Championship this year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think this went over your head.
Speaker 4: Jameson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this next level, I'm going big baby, Jack?
Speaker 1: Is Jack is playing forty chips out here?
Speaker 5: You know anything that we don't know, Like, is there
Speaker 5: a trade that Jalen Brown like, like, what's going on?
Speaker 5: Is there's something that like, I'm yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Jack telling them what you said.
Speaker 3: You just like, what's really cool? Two games in the
Speaker 3: summer league. And in those two summer league games, and
Speaker 3: if they just let him continue to play against summer
Speaker 3: league players, I think he's going to league.
Speaker 4: In the chip. Let me get this straight man. Make sure.
Speaker 5: First, and I want to thank you for donating to
Speaker 5: the Clark County.
Speaker 1: And you keep the parks looking great, you keep the roads.
Speaker 4: You know there's construction everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the grass is green because of that bet.
Speaker 4: We don't have a lot of grass here, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of rocks, but you do have it.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 2: I've always been blown away by how green the grass
Speaker 2: is and some of the parks in Las Vegas, considering
Speaker 2: how hot it is golf course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, might be fake official.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: So you agree that it was a smart bet. We
Speaker 3: can move on from there. So you have made some
Speaker 3: bets based on Summer League, but like you're probably more
Speaker 3: over under than like to win the title, right, Like
Speaker 3: over underwins.
Speaker 5: Overunder wins player awards, just overall growth. Like for instance,
Speaker 5: when the Warriors were like undefeated for like a year
Speaker 5: and change. In Summer League, you can kind of see like, hey,
Speaker 5: they're building something here.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say I had twenty five to one
Speaker 5: back til I was the fourteen, because I didn't, but
Speaker 5: you can see them building something.
Speaker 4: I think that's the key for Summer League is if
Speaker 4: a team is.
Speaker 5: Playing guys they drafted and guys that are in rotation,
Speaker 5: you can see them building towards something.
Speaker 4: I think that's huge.
Speaker 5: I think that's key for that particular situation in my opinion. Anyway,
Speaker 5: with that being said, You never want to get who
Speaker 5: caught up with that because we have seen good Summer
Speaker 5: League teams and you know they end up in a
Speaker 5: lottery the next year. So you don't want to get
Speaker 5: too far ahead of yourselves. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: it can be a promina things to come.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean when by analysis after the first
Speaker 3: one was this guy stinks, this guy stinks.
Speaker 1: I'm out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like the second game he's on ice
Speaker 3: skates out there. I got on my.
Speaker 1: Face after that second game.
Speaker 3: But it turned yeah, it turns out he looks pretty
Speaker 3: pretty good. So uh and then and then Scoot feels
Speaker 3: like he's just already he's ready to be a serious
Speaker 3: player in the league. Anything else or do you agree
Speaker 3: with those anything else jumping out of you?
Speaker 4: So I live out here.
Speaker 5: I was able to see when Byana and Scoop like
Speaker 5: each other twice back in October, so I was going
Speaker 5: to see them a little. It was a little different,
Speaker 5: you know, playing in that kind of setting versus this.
Speaker 5: Obviously I knew when Bianna was gonna be okay and
Speaker 5: the second game, but the first game is always gonna
Speaker 5: be jitters, It's gonna be what's gonna be uh, Scoop
Speaker 5: was gonna have gonna be more comfortable because his role
Speaker 5: is different, Like when Maya is something we've never seen before.
Speaker 5: We've never seen a seven to five guy move like this,
Speaker 5: and I think just everything was kind of a cluster because.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his teammates and his coaches also, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: that exactly how many.
Speaker 5: People have, right, right, like seeing a seven five guy
Speaker 5: bring up the ball and run in motion off it
Speaker 5: Like it's kind of odd that like that was going
Speaker 5: on and he wasn't like having a problem doing it,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it was weird. But the second game obviously
Speaker 5: a lot more comfortable, and the numbers suggested.
Speaker 4: But yeah, the initial reaction was wild.
Speaker 5: Because people are like a stay in France, he's a
Speaker 5: bus blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I love the energy of the webs like that, Like
Speaker 2: he should have just stayed.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, no point in even trying out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jabari Smith Junior might be in pole position for
Speaker 3: the tournament MVP if he decides to keep playing. It
Speaker 3: seems like he wants to keep playing anyone else jumping
Speaker 3: out to you, Well.
Speaker 4: So here's the thing.
Speaker 5: Like when it comes to Summer League, the Lakers young
Speaker 5: guys are playing really well as a unit or really
Speaker 5: not one like out here is gonna win MVP.
Speaker 4: But they're looking good.
Speaker 5: As you you know, you know, I think Captin's name
Speaker 5: of the undrafted big looking pretty solid.
Speaker 4: Jay hs is looking good.
Speaker 5: So there's as a collective they look pretty solid as
Speaker 5: a core. Even look good in the California Summer League
Speaker 5: as well. There's been hits and misses.
Speaker 4: Along the way. Indiana's team looks really good.
Speaker 5: Like Indiana, they look they look like they shouldn't be here,
Speaker 5: and that's always a good sign. Like whatever you see
Speaker 5: a team that has like rotation guys in. So I'll
Speaker 5: give you another example. Charlotte does not look good and
Speaker 5: they didn't look good in the in the other summer
Speaker 5: league either, and that's not a great sign going forward. Now.
Speaker 5: Of course, we know the guy that makes everything work there,
Speaker 5: so it should be better than the regular season, but
Speaker 5: it's not a good sign when you got roster guys
Speaker 5: on the team you're getting blown out in every league
Speaker 5: you're in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we have to take this opportunity because
Speaker 3: we rarely have Laker fans on the podcast. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: you know, with Miles and Jabbari, yeah, you know it
Speaker 3: is biased.
Speaker 1: There, so wisdom wisdom.
Speaker 3: In terms of the Lakers off season, how are you
Speaker 3: feeling like I'm hearing living in Los Angeles, hanging out
Speaker 3: with a couple of Lakers fans, I'm hearing greatest offseason
Speaker 3: of all time? Question marks just put out there.
Speaker 1: Recent recently, not of all time recent memory. I felt there.
Speaker 1: I feel for the.
Speaker 3: Lakers or for NBA basketball.
Speaker 5: I think both because if you want to have your
Speaker 5: flagship teams, you know, doing the right things, and their
Speaker 5: acquisitions and their moves have been the right move. Like,
Speaker 5: they didn't do anything dumb and trade a bunch of
Speaker 5: young guys to get an oldest star player that might
Speaker 5: be disgruntled somewhere else.
Speaker 4: They didn't do that.
Speaker 5: They're like, hey, we had a good run with the roster,
Speaker 5: we had a little bit short. Let's kind of bring
Speaker 5: every already back and you know, obtaining flexibility, Like the
Speaker 5: one thing I think a lot of teams don't understand
Speaker 5: is being able to be flexible to make a move
Speaker 5: or two to make yourself be able to improved going forward.
Speaker 5: Once you lock into that third max guy, there's no
Speaker 5: flexibility and you're end up stuck and if that, if
Speaker 5: that big three isn't good enough, then you're not gonna
Speaker 5: win anything and you're just wasting time. And we have
Speaker 5: a Lebron James Anthony Davis team. You don't have any
Speaker 5: time to waste. Like Lebron's basically a year to year guy.
Speaker 5: Now he's you know, you're twenty one coming up. You
Speaker 5: can't you know, be experimenting at this point in time.
Speaker 5: So they did the right thing and bringing everybody back
Speaker 5: for the most part while regaining flexible while you know,
Speaker 5: keeping flexibility along the roster. They can make moves they
Speaker 5: choose to do so in the middle of the season
Speaker 5: or even next summer if they choose to do so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel like? You see what you
Speaker 2: see the moves we've made. You see the people that stayed.
Speaker 2: We got reeves on a discount.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: How do you now? How are you looking at twenty three,
Speaker 1: twenty four?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: Want to without West?
Speaker 5: They're like there, it's them in Denver and Phoenix are
Speaker 5: like the top three out West and it's everybody else
Speaker 5: in my opinion, like those are the three teams that
Speaker 5: look at the roster, look at the situation, like those
Speaker 5: are the three you got to give Denver their credit.
Speaker 4: There are the champs.
Speaker 5: They're bringing pretty much everyone back except Bruce Brown, so
Speaker 5: you got to give them their credit. But what Lakers
Speaker 5: have done this summer is huge because the continuity is huge.
Speaker 4: That's key. For what they did in the short amount
Speaker 4: of time last year should be commended.
Speaker 5: But now you're bringing everybody back, everyone should be more
Speaker 5: cohesive as a unit. They're in good shape and they
Speaker 5: got deeper. Like I'm really big on Cameradtish. I know
Speaker 5: he's at his issues and I know basketball Twitter goes
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty with him.
Speaker 4: But with that being said, I think a guy like that.
Speaker 5: With with Phil being the player development guy, kill any
Speaker 5: being the player development guy, like there's some there's something
Speaker 5: there that I believe that could be on tap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's some deep analysis that I did not
Speaker 3: know the name of the Lakers player development guy, so.
Speaker 2: Kill Handy, Yeah, I guess it's I guess, like yeah,
Speaker 2: just like for me, it's like everything on the Lake,
Speaker 2: I'm like, let's all we talk about sometimes. Yeah, what's
Speaker 2: his what's his Instagram handle?
Speaker 4: Mister ninety four feet?
Speaker 1: Oh is that what it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, there's like all of its like handles
Speaker 1: have to do with the yeah, you know, shooting prowess
Speaker 1: and things like that. But anyway he.
Speaker 3: Can shoot anywhere on the ninety four feet on the
Speaker 3: on the court. Is that what's implied there or just
Speaker 3: that you got to bring it all all ninety four feet?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's up to you. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: to bring it. They all count, they all count all
Speaker 1: ninety four All right.
Speaker 3: Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right
Speaker 3: back to dig in a little bit to you know,
Speaker 3: any any value we see out out there? Uh some
Speaker 3: more professional batteur talks between three pros. We'll be right
Speaker 3: past and we're back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, are you already looking at the upcoming season?
Speaker 3: You got any like interesting crops for us anything?
Speaker 1: Is it foolish to even think about this right now?
Speaker 4: So here's the thing.
Speaker 5: First of all, there's no days off in gambling.
Speaker 1: Off, like get started getting value out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you go. Because here's the thing too.
Speaker 5: You can get a good prop early, like you can
Speaker 5: find something at the casinos and the odds makers are
Speaker 5: sleeping on friends. This last year, Mike Brown, when Coach
Speaker 5: of the Year, was like one hundred to one. Wow,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean to start like by this
Speaker 5: time last year one hundred and one.
Speaker 4: You know. So those are things you kind of look at,
Speaker 4: say hey, you.
Speaker 5: Know, look at the ross, look at the situation, look
Speaker 5: at other teams in that division or conference, saying hmm,
Speaker 5: I can see this happening, not just a random bet,
Speaker 5: but like, hey, there's at least a pathway to it,
Speaker 5: Like that's the that's the one rule I have when
Speaker 5: it comes to betting futures or props. Is there a
Speaker 5: legit pathway for it without a miracle happening, And if
Speaker 5: you see it, then yeah, let it fly. With that
Speaker 5: being said, Vegas doesn't have the props that fan duel DraftKings,
Speaker 5: the offshore accounts have. Hopefully in the future, we do,
Speaker 5: but we don't have the same luxury that people around
Speaker 5: the country have when it gets to being the bag
Speaker 5: of parlay who wins MVP, even the Player of the Year.
Speaker 4: Already we can't parlay that.
Speaker 5: It's only a single bet, so it's it's not the
Speaker 5: same as others, but it's still cool. You still can
Speaker 5: make a little bit of money, but you can't make
Speaker 5: that huge bag off of a couple of predictions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred to one is plus ten thousand, because
Speaker 3: that's what we're I have a hard time with that stuff.
Speaker 3: It's basically, for every one dollar you bet, you win
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars in that case, and then plus ten
Speaker 3: thousand is So Jabari was telling me that, like the
Speaker 3: professional you know, the odds makers and the casinos one
Speaker 3: everybody using the like plus minus one, because those are
Speaker 3: big numbers. And I look at those and the actual
Speaker 3: literal dollar signs appear in my eyes.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my tongue on rolls in my mouth. But
Speaker 3: I just wanted to point out that, like that, Mike Brown,
Speaker 3: those odds are the same as Oklahoma City Thunder to
Speaker 3: win the title this year. So you know, so maybe
Speaker 3: maybe we're speaking too soon about that bet.
Speaker 5: I hope you win, though I hear that I don't
Speaker 5: hit on anyone's bet. I hope if it comes through,
Speaker 5: I'll be happy for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm really curious, right, So, Like we were looking at.
Speaker 2: The odds right in pre season of last season, and
Speaker 2: the Nuggets were down at around plus twenty plus eighteen
Speaker 2: hundred correct, and we saw where that went. Can you
Speaker 2: help me understand because like, over the course of the season,
Speaker 2: every person who like writes about Denver, a lot of
Speaker 2: people are like they have to be were saying they
Speaker 2: had to be part of the conversation and weren't like,
Speaker 2: what what's affecting all this where you know, some people
Speaker 2: who were like writing about the game are like, keep
Speaker 2: your eye on that team, but it's not really born
Speaker 2: out in the odds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Like I feel like I would have totally
Speaker 3: taken that bet, Like, especially knowing what I know now
Speaker 3: it's time machine, I totally would have taken.
Speaker 2: It, or some kind of book that had all of
Speaker 2: the results from future sporting events at my disposal.
Speaker 3: But truly that does feel like great value, like get
Speaker 3: knowing what we knew about Denver, right, Like what happened?
Speaker 3: So you took that bet?
Speaker 4: No? I wish I did?
Speaker 5: I wish I Actually the funny part is I advise
Speaker 5: everyone in Vegas to that the Nuggers were gonna be
Speaker 5: in the finals. They're gonna play in Milwaukee. That was
Speaker 5: my prediction. But unfortunately I did not place a bet
Speaker 5: on at least they were getting off the West. I
Speaker 5: didn't I didn't do that unfortunately, but.
Speaker 4: So's going to come out the West.
Speaker 2: So so what were you what what factored into your
Speaker 2: analysis to just to make that prediction.
Speaker 5: So I looked at the West as a whole. Everyone
Speaker 5: else had they had at least amount of issues. In
Speaker 5: my eyes, Like Jokic is yok Like he's he plays
Speaker 5: all the time, he doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 4: You know what you're getting fro him?
Speaker 5: You're at least winning forty five games gets him alone.
Speaker 5: You're getting Jamal Murray back thought that he always.
Speaker 4: I was always high on Jamal Murray.
Speaker 5: So I always thought that, hey, they're getting basically an
Speaker 5: All star type of guy. Back to what forty five
Speaker 5: games guarantees you they're gonna be good. I thought the
Speaker 5: rest of the West had a lot of questions. Thought
Speaker 5: the Clippers had questions. The Warriors were gonna have questions
Speaker 5: because they're a older team coming off a long season,
Speaker 5: and obviously we saw them We're down as the season
Speaker 5: went on. The Lakers were gonna have issues because they
Speaker 5: are two best guys can hurt a lot. Just everyone
Speaker 5: in the West had a lot of issues. I never
Speaker 5: really trusted Memphis Phoenix. You know, you know, obviously this
Speaker 5: was for the A training for KD. The way they
Speaker 5: went out last year, you knew they were never gonna
Speaker 5: be back as a whole again. You knew that was over.
Speaker 5: That rule was never gonna be the same. So everyone
Speaker 5: out West had a lot of issues, and I felt
Speaker 5: like didn't have the least amount of issues. So that
Speaker 5: was the process behind it. And also, like I thought,
Speaker 5: was the best player in the conference, so him with
Speaker 5: a healthy squad, take your chances.
Speaker 1: That's very reasonable.
Speaker 3: The odds heading into last season, Celtic's plus five hundred,
Speaker 3: the favorite Golden State, and I mean they were in
Speaker 3: the finals together the previous seasons, that that makes sense. Milwaukee,
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Clippers, which makes sense, Phoenix Suns, seventy six Ers,
Speaker 3: Miami Heat, but they like so the Heat were favored
Speaker 3: over them, over over the Nuggets. And then you get
Speaker 3: to Denver, and then Denver was on the same footing
Speaker 3: with the Lakers and pretty close to like the Grizzlies
Speaker 3: and the Mavericks, right right, which is yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: pretty wild. That's all.
Speaker 5: No One talked about the Nuggets, No one on the
Speaker 5: no one in the mainstream media talk about the Nuggets.
Speaker 5: Everything was about the glamour teams or the glamber players
Speaker 5: and Jokic. Before this season, people really didn't talk about
Speaker 5: he doesn't do much an off season. He goes home
Speaker 5: like there's no tmz of Yo kicch like like he's
Speaker 5: not out there fighting people in the streets.
Speaker 4: Like he literally goes home and rides horse's swims.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get horses, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: The only thing I've saw a clip of him on
Speaker 2: a kayaking trip was the most I've seen in the
Speaker 2: off season so far, and people were like mobbing him
Speaker 2: on a river. But yeah, he seems to be He
Speaker 2: seems to be pretty focused in the offseason.
Speaker 3: Is there any team heading into this season you feel
Speaker 3: like is similarly flying under the radar?
Speaker 5: So if this is a very big if we like
Speaker 5: that if Zion gets this stuff together in New Orleans,
Speaker 5: like that would be the one where it's like, hey,
Speaker 5: if he stays healthy and Brent Ingham stays healthy, with
Speaker 5: the supporting cast that they have, they could be the
Speaker 5: team that can surprise people and make a run. That
Speaker 5: would be the because they have a lot of talent,
Speaker 5: it just it never you know, really clicks, Like that's
Speaker 5: the issue that they.
Speaker 4: Do have good shooting.
Speaker 5: They do have some guys that can make plays, like
Speaker 5: Herb Jones is a very good defender. With that being said, though,
Speaker 5: it's just hard to believe in Zion staying healthy, believing
Speaker 5: in brandon Ingram saying healthy for a long period of time.
Speaker 5: And it's not that they both get hurt. They both
Speaker 5: get hurt missed like six weeks, like they missed a
Speaker 5: few days, Like they're out for multiple pay periods, and
Speaker 5: if you're out for multiple pay periods, it's not gonna
Speaker 5: end well for you. So that's my only concern. But
Speaker 5: if I had to put a lot a long shot,
Speaker 5: it would be the Pelicans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting I had when we went into the
Speaker 3: sports book because I didn't know what you were talking about,
Speaker 3: the thing about how they weren't taking bets on like
Speaker 3: props on like who would win each thing. My intention
Speaker 3: was to bet on Zion for most improved because he's
Speaker 3: like way down there, like not not even in the conversation,
Speaker 3: but like if he just stays healthy and does what
Speaker 3: we know he can do and is like you know,
Speaker 3: in the conversation, like top five MVP conversation, like like
Speaker 3: Jaw a couple years back or last year when he
Speaker 3: was suddenly like so good and like kind of what
Speaker 3: people thought he could be, and he was like up
Speaker 3: there near MVP conversation. I feel like that could happen
Speaker 3: for Zion if he just like stays healthy. Obviously big if,
Speaker 3: but that feels like there's some value there because I
Speaker 3: think some of the off court stories have maybe deflated
Speaker 3: his value a little bit.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And also was Zion's been an All Star
Speaker 5: times alrighty, So I don't know if he can win
Speaker 5: most improve Like, I don't know if you would get
Speaker 5: voted for. It doesn't quite make it doesn't make sense
Speaker 5: in a sense. I don't see him winning that one.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would give him that based
Speaker 5: off his resume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, it was a smart bet that
Speaker 3: I was thinking of making.
Speaker 2: Jack's driving back to Vegas, He's like, can I can
Speaker 2: I switch this one out?
Speaker 3: Can I? I'd like to get a return where's the
Speaker 3: returns window?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Come back player? If they have comeback player that I
Speaker 4: think you're good.
Speaker 2: Though, right, So I mean who And again, like when
Speaker 2: you're looking at individual futures and things like that, what
Speaker 2: what sort of like the analysis that you take for example,
Speaker 2: like with Most Improved right now. Obviously Jack had a
Speaker 2: genius sort of four D chess idea with Zion, if you.
Speaker 1: Had to go more traditional, how are you looking at it?
Speaker 5: So it's really about opportunity and also contract situation, like,
Speaker 5: so are you gonna be playing a lot of minutes?
Speaker 4: What's your contract looking like? Are you playing for a contract?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: Are you in a contract year? There's a lot of
Speaker 5: things I look into it. So, for instance, in this situation,
Speaker 5: a guy that super talented, but as he plays on
Speaker 5: a team that does weird things with young players, John think,
Speaker 5: come on, good, he's like fifty five to one right
Speaker 5: now on DraftKings, and he's for Most Improved. We know
Speaker 5: he's talented, he's showing flashes, but this year they're actually
Speaker 5: gonna have to play him, Like, they're gonna have to
Speaker 5: play him no matter what. This way the roster is,
Speaker 5: the way the size is lined up, They're gonna have
Speaker 5: to play him. I do believe that even though Chris
Speaker 5: Paul's a little older in the tooth, having a guy
Speaker 5: like that being able to spoon feed him certain assist
Speaker 5: and get him going early and often, I think that
Speaker 5: will help. But I just think that him playing getting
Speaker 5: guarantee twenty five minutes a night will help out a lot.
Speaker 4: Because they're an older team, they need young athletic legs.
Speaker 5: We saw that in the playoffs, like Sacramento literally ran
Speaker 5: them off the court at times.
Speaker 4: So John the kamonga fifty five to one.
Speaker 5: I think it was a very good play for those
Speaker 5: out there looking for a long shot type of type
Speaker 5: of action.
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, So I I think I messed up my bets. Really.
Speaker 3: I was looking at whether, like the Warriors have really
Speaker 3: long odds for because that that feels like a thing
Speaker 3: where people might be off off the scent a little
Speaker 3: bit because of what the Lakers did to them. But
Speaker 3: I think the Chris Paul signing was too splashy in there,
Speaker 3: you know, in the top ten NBA Championship odds. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean looking back at the one thing that like, like,
Speaker 3: we were looking at the biggest preseason underdogs to win
Speaker 3: the title, and it's pretty interesting. There's some teams on
Speaker 3: there that I wouldn't have expected, Like the seven eight
Speaker 3: Celtics were ten to one underdogs. Their win loss over
Speaker 3: under was forty nine point five. This was the first
Speaker 3: year of the Big Three. I don't know if people
Speaker 3: if maybe this was before, but like that that trade
Speaker 3: happened before the season, so it's not like but they
Speaker 3: ended up going sixty six and sixteen, and despite some
Speaker 3: like you know, seven round series in the earlier rounds,
Speaker 3: they should have been the favorite, like based on what
Speaker 3: the team looked like together, got a couple of Spurs
Speaker 3: teams in there, Houston Rockets when they first won it, Pistons,
Speaker 3: the Raptors before when they had Kawhi were big underdogs,
Speaker 3: the Mavericks the year that they won obviously, I think
Speaker 3: they were big underdogs heading into the playoffs, but the
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen Golden State Warriors were the biggest
Speaker 3: underdog in NBA history preseason underdog because there's some of
Speaker 3: it that was just like, you can't win shooting threes.
Speaker 3: You can't win a title shooting threes, Like you need
Speaker 3: to be able to like bully ball at it in there.
Speaker 3: But also they were just a team that we had
Speaker 3: seen not be able to do it a couple of times.
Speaker 3: But the reason they couldn't do it is they were
Speaker 3: young and they just you know, they hadn't put it together.
Speaker 3: But that's instructive to me. I guess the Nuggets from
Speaker 3: this past season would have been the third or fourth.
Speaker 3: They would have been righted with the Raptors in terms
Speaker 3: of long shot odds, biggest long shots to win the title.
Speaker 3: And that one feels crazy to me. That one feels
Speaker 3: like we should have known heading into this season. But
Speaker 3: that might just be recency bias.
Speaker 5: It's tough because like, we don't well sometimes I say we,
Speaker 5: but the national media doesn't cover the Nuggets like that.
Speaker 5: If the Nuggets played in a bigger city, then yeah,
Speaker 5: it would the odd would not have been that high
Speaker 5: and there would have been a lot more tension on them.
Speaker 5: But the Nuggets playing the Mountain time zone, unfortunately, no
Speaker 5: one says about the Mountain time zone. It sucks, it's unfortunate,
Speaker 5: but it goes Eastern time zone Central, and then from
Speaker 5: the Mountain time zone. Everybody either watching games or getting
Speaker 5: ready for the West Coast games. No one here's for
Speaker 5: that Denver, Utah. You know, stretch again like it's unfortunately sucks,
Speaker 5: it really does, but people are getting ready for the Lakers, Warriors,
Speaker 5: Clippers sons that when they're on the right time zone
Speaker 5: to start, the Mountain time longing just gets looked over
Speaker 5: and it's just what it is, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: So I mean like it's just interesting that like because
Speaker 2: of just sort of those factors that suddenly the odds
Speaker 2: can be favorable because just purely all of the attention
Speaker 2: is going the other way. So in a way, like
Speaker 2: it just it seems like something worth noting in that
Speaker 2: sense that sometimes those odds are better purely because that
Speaker 2: all of our attention just goes on like these major
Speaker 2: markets on the coasts.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, and it goes the other way around too.
Speaker 5: You're not going to see favorable Laker lines with anything
Speaker 5: because they don't want to take a loss.
Speaker 4: Like they don't want you know, they have good odds.
Speaker 5: The Lakers for it better because if the ad hits,
Speaker 5: it's a bad day for casino. Seems are business as well,
Speaker 5: they have to make smart decisions.
Speaker 4: So you're not going to.
Speaker 5: See favorable odds on Laker futures when they have a
Speaker 5: good team, or Nick futures when they have a good team,
Speaker 5: just not because the amount of people who would bet it,
Speaker 5: and if it does hit, it becomes rough. I live
Speaker 5: in Vegas, So the Golden Knights won the title this
Speaker 5: Year's not hurt by that. That's just how it goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like betting markets are a lot closer to
Speaker 3: the stock market than I realized, in the sense that
Speaker 3: like the people placing the bets really end up setting
Speaker 3: the odds. Like obviously the book makers start like put
Speaker 3: put the starting point where it is, but then it
Speaker 3: goes up and down based on like how much money
Speaker 3: is being wagered, so that they you know, even it
Speaker 3: out so that it's as close as possible. But I
Speaker 3: was always you know, one of those people who was like, man,
Speaker 3: you look at like the over under and the line,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's so often it's like within a
Speaker 3: half a point, and you're like, how are these guys
Speaker 3: so smart? And it's like, well, it's actually like the
Speaker 3: wisdom of the crowds, like driving driving that, and just
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: So anything to keep an eye on, because again I'm
Speaker 2: like I'm sentimental part of me, like I don't like
Speaker 2: to bet on the Lakers because that's my team and
Speaker 2: every time I've done so in the past, it's blown
Speaker 2: up in my face.
Speaker 1: And again to your point about the odds.
Speaker 2: Like who's someone that you feel is kind of in
Speaker 2: that sort of sweet spot in terms of like not
Speaker 2: quite getting enough attention. But at the same time, the
Speaker 2: odds are slightly favorable from a better's perspective.
Speaker 5: Just in general or like a team wise, like in
Speaker 5: terms of winning it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in terms of winning at all, because I'm
Speaker 2: just looking at all these odds, like every time it's
Speaker 2: doing math, I'm like, Okay, how much can I make off?
Speaker 2: That obviously not the best motivation when placing a bet,
Speaker 2: but I'm just by using that sort of logic and
Speaker 2: not getting my own sentimental attachment involved.
Speaker 1: Objectively, what like.
Speaker 2: Do you see anything here where there's like a combination
Speaker 2: of the odds being good and a lack of national
Speaker 2: attention or maybe lack of mainstream media narrative that makes
Speaker 2: it an attractive bet.
Speaker 5: The odds aren't great, But with that being said, it
Speaker 5: Miami gets Dame, they got action, Like they're at nine
Speaker 5: to one. If they do get Dame, they have three
Speaker 5: All Star type of players, and they've been close, alrighty,
Speaker 5: Like they've been close twice, Like you know, they've had
Speaker 5: their moments in two final series. If they get another
Speaker 5: All Star and they're able to tweak their rosters, like
Speaker 5: we know how they do they have a good shots
Speaker 5: anybody like that trade finally goes through sometime this summer.
Speaker 4: I would say Miami at nine.
Speaker 5: To one's probably the best bet because we know how
Speaker 5: they are out east. You're adding another guy that can
Speaker 5: create and shoot from long distance and open with the
Speaker 5: floor for the other guys. That would be the team
Speaker 5: I would feel comfortable in taking a shot with. I
Speaker 5: don't trust Philly, don't trust the Clippers.
Speaker 3: What do you trust Philly Man Steady Rock in the playoffs?
Speaker 3: You can trust them to go out in the second
Speaker 3: round every year without a doubt that thing? Do they
Speaker 3: take outs on that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Has there ever been worse odds? Though? I feel like
Speaker 3: you could. You could win five dollars on a thousand
Speaker 3: dollars bet if you bet Philly going out in the
Speaker 3: second round, Right, that's.
Speaker 4: Wild, That is true. It's actually true though.
Speaker 5: But you can bet it on before the series starts,
Speaker 5: so they're playing somebody in their favored and you feel
Speaker 5: that they're not gonna win and you can make some money.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other team I took is a Phoenix Suns. I
Speaker 3: did not take it because I thought there's good value there.
Speaker 3: I took it because I am interested in them. I
Speaker 3: root for Frank Vogel and I root for KD always
Speaker 3: and so gives me an extra incentive to kind of
Speaker 3: be be watching them. But I feel like there's probably
Speaker 3: bad value on that one because they've gotten so much
Speaker 3: media attention.
Speaker 5: Right, it's not that bad, Like it's it's six and
Speaker 5: a half to one pretty good money. Like if you
Speaker 5: can make six to fifty off one hundred bucks, you're
Speaker 5: doing pretty good. Like that's not bad. It's just more
Speaker 5: of you think about the play itself. You think about
Speaker 5: can all the guys stay healthy? And can they can
Speaker 5: that roster get a little bit better between now and April,
Speaker 5: Like those are two things that you kind of think
Speaker 5: about because right now the roster you got three guys
Speaker 5: that are really high paid and a bunch of minimum guys.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that works in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: But they can tweak the stuff, and they can tweak
Speaker 5: the rosters a little bit more. They may have a
Speaker 5: shot because they played Denver the toughest, Like they gave
Speaker 5: Denver the toughest runout of anybody in the postseason. So
Speaker 5: if they're that close, who knows. And that's not a
Speaker 5: bad bet. I actually like that bet. I have health,
Speaker 5: like that's my thing of the health is the biggest.
Speaker 3: Issue that means so much. You've made my day. And
Speaker 3: then in terms of player props, like award props Rookie
Speaker 3: of the Year when Biama is minus two hundred, meaning
Speaker 3: you have to bet two hundred dollars to win one hundred,
Speaker 3: like he's nailed on Favorite Scoot plus three fifty. You
Speaker 3: bet one hundred, you win three fifty. Chet went, you
Speaker 3: bet one hundred U five hundred. I like the Chet money.
Speaker 3: I think he looks like he's ready to do some
Speaker 3: things and in a good situation. But I feel like
Speaker 3: it's going to be Scooter Wembyama.
Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be Wimby.
Speaker 5: As long as he stays healthy and plays enough games,
Speaker 5: it's going to be him. However, if he does not
Speaker 5: win it, it probably goes to Scoop because in Portland
Speaker 5: he's gonna be the guy that give the ball to
Speaker 5: right away and for the game he plays and people
Speaker 5: like to see.
Speaker 4: He's gonna put up more stuff.
Speaker 5: Now we have a good season, but highlights and the
Speaker 5: production in the usage, we're all gonna favorite Scoot unfortunately
Speaker 5: when it comes to the awards, and Scoot would probably
Speaker 5: win it if Wimby doesn't.
Speaker 1: So I put three thousand dollars down on Grady Dick winning.
Speaker 4: Again. We appreciate the donation and the contribution to the park.
Speaker 2: But just just think though, okay, so okay, So see
Speaker 2: that guy's neck, man, the visible his vision, just.
Speaker 1: The straight neck prowess and the sequence. Suit.
Speaker 2: I don't know now that I'm hearing the way a
Speaker 2: professional talks about it, maybe I have made a mistake a.
Speaker 4: Lot of money, like you could have spread that around like.
Speaker 1: Look see and I'm still learning. I'm still learning, Jameson,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I understand.
Speaker 2: H Can I stay with you man when I'm in
Speaker 2: town because I might I might need a place to
Speaker 2: just kind of lay.
Speaker 4: Look, you might, you may, you know, you may have
Speaker 4: a night. You make it a night.
Speaker 3: Here's another hair brand. Long odds bet that I kind
Speaker 3: of really like defensive player of the year. If wembin
Speaker 3: Ama is your rookie of the year, as you say
Speaker 3: he is, he is going to block so many shots.
Speaker 3: But if he's blocking three to four shots a game, like,
Speaker 3: won't he be in the conversation for Defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the Year.
Speaker 4: I'll do you one better.
Speaker 5: If he does all that and the numbers back it up,
Speaker 5: and like the Spurs holding teams like one hundred and
Speaker 5: three points a game or something like that, he will
Speaker 5: be in the conversation for.
Speaker 4: The award, if not winning it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, getting thirty five to one on that, that's worth
Speaker 5: a flyer, like.
Speaker 3: Thank you, I got one. I got one.
Speaker 5: You make that bet and just make it and whatever
Speaker 5: happens happens, because you know there's a pathway too. Because
Speaker 5: here's the thing, we all know how these things go.
Speaker 5: Once momentium starts, you can't really stop it. Five shots
Speaker 5: a game and changing another five that's gonna get talked
Speaker 5: about every day while the season is going on.
Speaker 4: And the Spurs are gonna be better.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure they're gonna be a playoff fro nothing
Speaker 5: like that, but they're gonna be at least better than
Speaker 5: not gonna.
Speaker 4: Be a walkover that that play has action.
Speaker 5: I'd rather here's the thing, I'd rather bet bet that
Speaker 5: at thirty five to one, then bet go Bear or
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis at their odds, just because if you're gonna
Speaker 5: if you're gonna put put a features bound something. Make
Speaker 5: it worthwhile, Like make it worth it if you hit it,
Speaker 5: make it worth like, hey, I just came up thirty
Speaker 5: five hundred bucks.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm at with Grady dick Man. Exactly, you
Speaker 2: stole it right out of my mouth, man, exactly. Gotta
Speaker 2: make it worth it, Gotta make it worth it.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: But he does, like you in his quote unquote bad game,
Speaker 3: Like he just changes every like just anything anyone's doing
Speaker 3: on offense when he when he's on defense, like the shots.
Speaker 3: And maybe this was he was playing Charlotte in that game,
Speaker 3: so maybe they're just like shooting with their eyes closed
Speaker 3: or something, and that's why open.
Speaker 5: Like I saw James bot Night shoot with all eyes
Speaker 5: open and it was not good, right, you know it
Speaker 5: was Brandon Miller as well, has been rough this summer.
Speaker 5: They were shooting all eyes open. It's just what it was.
Speaker 5: But the one thing that did stand out is they
Speaker 5: did not attempt to go to the basket.
Speaker 4: Noight, that was the thing.
Speaker 5: So it was like, oh, so Wimmen's having a bad game,
Speaker 5: but he's shutting everything down defensively, so it's not really
Speaker 5: a bad game.
Speaker 4: He's just struck in offensively.
Speaker 5: That's probably Oh, if the player of the year has action,
Speaker 5: because I bet you what, by the time the season starts,
Speaker 5: that never will be close to twenty to one, if
Speaker 5: not lower, it will not be at thirty five to one.
Speaker 5: Come out late October.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he you know, like I feel like he
Speaker 3: will get dunked on quite a few times.
Speaker 4: Yes, don't have.
Speaker 3: The thing that like drives this a lot of the
Speaker 3: time is like the analytics and you know, defensive analytics
Speaker 3: and like what people are shooting with him on the
Speaker 3: court or with him in the in their region when
Speaker 3: they're when they're taking a shot, and like that feels
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a problem for other for
Speaker 3: anybody going up against him. So love it. Love that.
Speaker 3: Bet I am a professional beteur. Y'all have heard it.
Speaker 1: And I'm better.
Speaker 2: Call me please if somebody at the casino can help
Speaker 2: me get a refund for this, because I'm confident in it.
Speaker 1: That's that's the only thing.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a quick break and we're going
Speaker 2: to be right back to close this out with the rapid.
Speaker 1: Fire round of questioning after this.
Speaker 2: And we're back and guess what Jamison, you have wandered
Speaker 2: into the fastest question and answer sec in an all
Speaker 2: podcasting history. Okay, shoot family questioning. Oh yeah, Now what
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna ask you a question. Just
Speaker 2: give us the answer that first pops into your mind.
Speaker 2: Just send it right back. Don't expand don't give us
Speaker 2: a bunch of explanations.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And if we start rambling on, you better stop us. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know, because this is on you to help out
Speaker 2: right now. I got you, Okay, I like that if
Speaker 2: you're in, so.
Speaker 1: Are we, Jack Big.
Speaker 3: Shooting alley is a phrase. I thought it was like, what,
Speaker 3: you know, what they're talking about in like an action movie.
Speaker 3: You're like going into a place where everyone's like gonna
Speaker 3: be able to shoot at you from both sides.
Speaker 1: You said, shooting alley, shooting a bottleneck.
Speaker 3: Nah, that's not it anyways. Uh, you know, tune in
Speaker 3: three months from now when I when I think of.
Speaker 2: It, aspire is what is what Jabar said.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into it, Brian, start the clock. I
Speaker 1: know it is called a kill zone.
Speaker 2: There's another thing that people say, if you wonder, that's
Speaker 2: from like World War One, trench warfare.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's a really good term. Anyway.
Speaker 2: See and Jamison, that is an example where you can
Speaker 2: come in and be like, hey, let's get on with this,
Speaker 2: because now we're ranting about World War one trench warfare.
Speaker 3: Shooting gallery, isn't it?
Speaker 1: But okay, corral Jabari's asking.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's a it's a different phrase.
Speaker 1: You've walked into the.
Speaker 3: You've wandered into a bad situation. Sorry, that is what
Speaker 3: you were thinking of. I know what a shooting gallery is.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you're going first? Or am I going first?
Speaker 3: You can go first, all right?
Speaker 2: Uh, Jamison, we're talking about teams we want to cover
Speaker 2: in the off season.
Speaker 1: Obviously going to talk about Spurs the Spurs, but.
Speaker 2: Also we want to figure out who else we want
Speaker 2: to add to this list or remove from this list.
Speaker 2: We got Spurs, we got Oka see Magic, Suns, Blazers, Mavericks.
Speaker 1: What are you doing to that you're adding or taking
Speaker 1: off from that list?
Speaker 3: We had rockets, we removed them.
Speaker 1: We removed rockets.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think the rocket should be added because
Speaker 5: they all lost them.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, they got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of characters, a lot
Speaker 5: of players, a lot of just storylines.
Speaker 4: Like, I think you're not gonna have a dull moment there.
Speaker 5: They may not be good, but you have a lot
Speaker 5: of things going on, and you have a coach that
Speaker 5: is a pretty good coach that is there for a
Speaker 5: reason that he you know, lost his job at other
Speaker 5: places for a reason. I think there's a lot to
Speaker 5: cover there, So you would never have a dull moment.
Speaker 5: I think would be the team I kind of like,
Speaker 5: you know, a race, because I don't think Dallas is
Speaker 5: gonna be thank you.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for someone to say that.
Speaker 5: Different reasons and or they can kind of go away
Speaker 5: to they just pay Germany Grant a bunch of money,
Speaker 5: so I would, Yeah, I would go away.
Speaker 3: I got a pitch for a new team, the Pacers. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I feel like the Pacers are interesting.
Speaker 5: Very very now Haliburg gotta stay healthy, but yes, I'm
Speaker 5: with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll take that. So we we've got
Speaker 3: a updated list and we are in the off seasons,
Speaker 3: so it would be about the time that we'd start
Speaker 3: covering these teams if we were men of our word, yes,
Speaker 3: but they would have to be men of our word Yeah,
Speaker 3: which TVD No, no one's ever accused us of this.
Speaker 1: Being men of our word.
Speaker 3: Yes. If you could have any player's skill set for
Speaker 3: a day, can be on the court off the court.
Speaker 3: Who are you choosing and what skill set is it?
Speaker 5: Uh? Kevin Durant and his Twitter personality, he doesn't care,
Speaker 5: he doesn't care. Why he'd be the guy like Katie
Speaker 5: would be the guy?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, who okay?
Speaker 2: Ultimate peak? Who is who is the ultimate peak? In
Speaker 2: their prime? Is it prime?
Speaker 4: Shack?
Speaker 3: Prime?
Speaker 1: Will prime?
Speaker 5: Koreem m hm two thousand? Shack is the scariest player
Speaker 5: I've ever seen. I'm thirty seven, so like that was
Speaker 5: the sky I've never seen. We've never seen anything like that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do about that. By Shack's the
Speaker 5: only guy to where his flaw didn't matter, law didn't matter.
Speaker 5: Like everyone else, flaw end up part of them one
Speaker 5: one way or another in their Preaker prime. He's the
Speaker 5: only guy where they're flawed, it didn't matter. They still
Speaker 5: repeat it with the flaw yet.
Speaker 3: Right, man? I really want to watch more old school
Speaker 3: Kareem because he kind of had Wemby like stature and build,
Speaker 3: and that's like when watching Wemby has made me interested
Speaker 3: in old school Kareem. Yes, if he if he could
Speaker 3: to develop like a skyhook type situation, we'd all be
Speaker 3: in trouble. The show would be in trouble because nobody
Speaker 3: everyone would just be like, oh, the league's over.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it gets worse.
Speaker 5: I think when he develops the three and I think
Speaker 5: it gets way worse for everyone.
Speaker 3: I mean it's already it's already there in some games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jamison, we got to keep this going, man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You got paid it in right there. You had to
Speaker 2: step up, man, I'm sorry. You know, we got to
Speaker 2: keep this going. We got yeah, yeah, Jack is it me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right. You asked the you could
Speaker 3: take two players from all of history to create your
Speaker 3: Mad Boosti's Edition NBA jam Team. Which two players do
Speaker 3: you take?
Speaker 4: You know what, give me Barkley and give me Magic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Magic will be good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: What is it about Magic Johnson?
Speaker 5: I mean he's the best point guard ever and you
Speaker 5: didn't need to play a certain way with him what
Speaker 5: you wanted to play. You want to slow down, slow down?
Speaker 5: If you want to run, you can run. He made
Speaker 5: everyone better and uh, he's the guy that he literally
Speaker 5: worked with anyone, Like whatever roster you give him, he
Speaker 5: would make it work. It wasn't oh I need shooters
Speaker 5: or oh we're going to play this way, or hey
Speaker 5: we need a stretch five.
Speaker 4: No, like whoever, whatever he had, he went with and
Speaker 4: that would be the way.
Speaker 5: So I was like Barkley just because the Barkley is
Speaker 5: unique and Barkey doesn't get the credit, Like there's a
Speaker 5: generation people only know Barkley from T and T and
Speaker 5: half watching NBA games instead of being a dominant player.
Speaker 4: So just do chucking to give him some love.
Speaker 1: Rather than the guy who played Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 3: Ye Shack, by the way, this is a this is
Speaker 3: a new question. I think for this, I'm going to
Speaker 3: steph Shack by the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Yeah, no, actually I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: Uh can you please rank the following Yardbird spots, Lolos,
Speaker 2: Gusses and Rosco's.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a that's a good question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, h Yardbird has the best chicken and waffles I've
Speaker 5: ever had.
Speaker 4: Okay, ever, and I've had all three of the places.
Speaker 5: You're talking about yeah yardbirds one, Rosco's is two you
Speaker 5: know it fell off, and Gus is three, and.
Speaker 1: Then Lolo's not in the mix time.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I apologize. Lolos is good. So it depends which
Speaker 5: lolos you go to. The ones in Phoenix are way
Speaker 5: better than the ones in Vegas and other cities because
Speaker 5: they originated in Phoenix. So and Phoenix is right there Roscos,
Speaker 5: but the one out here it's okay, but it's not
Speaker 5: the same quite not the same.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right. And finally the ultimate question, Yeah Jack
Speaker 3: or Miles.
Speaker 4: TI okay? Like push? So talking about betting push.
Speaker 3: Miles is reminding you by h wow?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: And and now okay, so what what what about my
Speaker 2: greedy dick bet that doesn't move the neither of No, I.
Speaker 3: Mean I just made you money with that one. Think
Speaker 3: by the way, yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so it's a.
Speaker 4: Line we will move, by the way. But yes, not
Speaker 4: the push.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, dealers showing twenty one and we got twenty one.
Speaker 5: Okay, somebody back like if you you push on the bet,
Speaker 5: you get your money back, So it would be a push.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll work with that because I definitely made some
Speaker 2: some terrible bets in my life. Uh, but Jamison Welsh,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us on Miles of
Speaker 2: Jack Got Mad Boosty's Where can people basking your wisdom
Speaker 2: and knowledge online?
Speaker 5: At Twitter? At the Amison I think we'll sell Twitter
Speaker 5: now by the time this shows. Hopefully, Yeah, might be threads.
Speaker 5: I think the threads is the same thing I think
Speaker 5: I have to But yeah, Twitter is always good.
Speaker 4: If you're in Vegas.
Speaker 5: I'm usually at rhetor Rock or other casinos around town,
Speaker 5: so definitely, Uh, don't be shy and say hi, there
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 3: Damn, that's cool. You can just be like, come to
Speaker 3: this casino. I'm usually there, right.
Speaker 4: Rock yep, we have a hotel.
Speaker 5: Lastly, lastly, if you're betting, make sure you get some
Speaker 5: sort of reward for your betting. Make sure you get
Speaker 5: some sort of comper perse for you betting your own money,
Speaker 5: whether it's hotels, whether it's free meals, whether it's trip whatever,
Speaker 5: whatever it is your betting, make sure you get some
Speaker 5: sort of benefit from it.
Speaker 3: How do you do that?
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. We didn't.
Speaker 3: We'll have to have you back.
Speaker 1: On there you go exactly all right?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, make sure you follow us on Twitter, follow
Speaker 2: us on hashtag mad Boosti's b w st i e as.
Speaker 1: You can follow me at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 3: On comment Sure, Brian, Yeah there it is.
Speaker 2: Uh and yeah, just check us out, check out all
Speaker 2: the links and stuff for show links, updates, et cetera.
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for this week, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: be right back at it on the next one.
Speaker 3: Bye bye,