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Speaker 1: You hear that.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to hear us because we're not an NBA

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Speaker 2: con anymore, and that means summer league has wrapped up

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Speaker 2: and teams are pretty much set barring any late summer deals.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a look forward and discuss, you know,

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Speaker 1: some potential betting strategies because Jack.

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Speaker 2: And I we were in Vegas and we were kind

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Speaker 2: of checking out the betting odds and we were wondering

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Speaker 2: how do we win? And we're gonna do that with

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Speaker 2: NBA analysts and expert sports Better Jamison Welsh on today's episode.

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Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this.

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Speaker 2: Is well, okay, three years Davis here you mb.

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Speaker 1: Driving spinning Curry a three punter.

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Speaker 3: Stop Curry from town again?

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Speaker 4: Be honest the okay got a shot time?

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Speaker 1: Don't you get to be honest?

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Speaker 2: Jamison Welsh, you've provided NB analysis for ESPN, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Uh and for the past.

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Speaker 2: Decade you've been you know, your respected sports better.

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Speaker 1: You're originally from southern California, now in Vegas. How are you?

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Speaker 1: And welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well, fellas. Thanks for the great intro.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of energy I love it makes for

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Speaker 5: like I'm in the room at y'all, so it's definitely

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Speaker 5: good to hear.

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Speaker 4: But no, man, it's it's hot.

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Speaker 5: Like it just got hot in Vegas a week before

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Speaker 5: summer lea, like right when July came. It got hot before,

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Speaker 5: like the longest streak of under one hundred degree days,

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Speaker 5: and now it's extremely hot to where you don't want

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Speaker 4: Building and with on. But it's other than the heat.

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Speaker 4: We're all good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And why has bettor spelled that way b

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Speaker 3: E T T O R instead of e R? Is

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Speaker 3: it just to prevent it from being like better, like

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Speaker 4: That's a great question.

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Speaker 3: I like it. It's like playwright, where like playwright is so

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Speaker 1: G h T Yeah, call yourself better or roar or.

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Speaker 3: Like you're a New Zealand prison saying that auror.

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Speaker 1: Jamisoner, did you get Do you check out any of

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Speaker 1: the Summer League? Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have to.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's one of the things that I mean,

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Speaker 5: being here since four I've literally seen Summer League be

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Speaker 5: in the small gym being a thing that people didn't

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Speaker 5: know about to be a worldwide production. Like literally ESPN

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Speaker 5: came in twenty seventeen and changed everything. But here's the

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Speaker 5: thing people don't realize. It wasn't twenty seventeen when things changed.

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Speaker 5: It was the wigginsbry Parker showdown game about ten years ago.

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Speaker 5: Is when everything changed. That was literally the beginning. Because

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Speaker 4: That's how bad. Well, that's why.

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Speaker 3: It started, like a nb A game in the nineteen

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Speaker 1: Put more coal in the generator. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was so bad that the literally people if they

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Speaker 4: That's how bad it was. Oh wow.

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Speaker 5: But the funniest part of that whole game is people

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Speaker 5: It was Wiggins and Jerry Parker were one and two

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Speaker 5: But it's always a great time when people come to

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Speaker 4: A lot different people, a lot of her connections. It's

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Speaker 3: Have you ever made a bet based on how someone

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Speaker 5: I gamble a lot, all right, So let me just

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Speaker 4: Let's take note of that.

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Speaker 5: When it comes to certain rookies like Donovan Mitchell had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, I'm an expert gambler. Or I

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of chips.

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Speaker 3: And then I took I took that money and I

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Speaker 1: In this summer league, in the summer league only.

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Speaker 5: So for most people out there, you guys don't understand,

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Speaker 5: Yet this is normally the time where most professional betters

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Speaker 4: So that is very very well inness check behavior.

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Speaker 5: If you're better league, you might need to send a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you mean, just.

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Speaker 4: They do the thing.

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Speaker 5: The money is real, like you can put a parlay together.

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Speaker 5: If you win your ticket, you're good. And some people

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Speaker 3: Least so savvy sharp how would you describe what I

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Speaker 5: Here's the bigges issue you're gonna have. If they decide

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm talking about winning the NBA Championship this year.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think this went over your head.

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Speaker 4: Jameson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this next level, I'm going big baby, Jack?

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Speaker 1: Is Jack is playing forty chips out here?

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Speaker 5: You know anything that we don't know, Like, is there

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Speaker 5: a trade that Jalen Brown like, like, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Is there's something that like, I'm yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: Jack telling them what you said.

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Speaker 3: You just like, what's really cool? Two games in the

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Speaker 3: if they just let him continue to play against summer

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Speaker 4: In the chip. Let me get this straight man. Make sure.

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Speaker 1: And you keep the parks looking great, you keep the roads.

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Speaker 4: You know there's construction everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the grass is green because of that bet.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, might be fake official.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you agree that it was a smart bet. We

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Speaker 3: can move on from there. So you have made some

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Speaker 3: over underwins.

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Speaker 5: Overunder wins player awards, just overall growth. Like for instance,

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 4: I think that's the key for Summer League is if

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Speaker 5: Playing guys they drafted and guys that are in rotation,

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Speaker 4: I think that's huge.

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Speaker 5: I think that's key for that particular situation in my opinion. Anyway,

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Speaker 5: it can be a promina things to come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean when by analysis after the first

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Speaker 1: I'm out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like the second game he's on ice

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Speaker 3: skates out there. I got on my.

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Speaker 1: Face after that second game.

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Speaker 3: But it turned yeah, it turns out he looks pretty

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Speaker 4: So I live out here.

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Speaker 5: I was able to see when Byana and Scoop like

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Speaker 5: to see them a little. It was a little different,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his teammates and his coaches also, I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you feel like? You see what you

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Speaker 2: We got reeves on a discount.

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Speaker 5: in my opinion, like those are the three teams that

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Speaker 4: There are the champs.

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Speaker 5: They're bringing pretty much everyone back except Bruce Brown, so

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Speaker 4: That's key. For what they did in the short amount

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Speaker 5: But now you're bringing everybody back, everyone should be more

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Speaker 4: But with that being said, I think a guy like that.

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Speaker 2: his what's his Instagram handle?

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Speaker 4: Mister ninety four feet?

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Speaker 3: Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right

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Speaker 3: back to dig in a little bit to you know,

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Speaker 3: any any value we see out out there? Uh some

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Speaker 3: more professional batteur talks between three pros. We'll be right

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Speaker 3: past and we're back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, are you already looking at the upcoming season?

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Speaker 3: You got any like interesting crops for us anything?

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Speaker 1: Is it foolish to even think about this right now?

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: First of all, there's no days off in gambling.

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Speaker 1: Off, like get started getting value out there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you go. Because here's the thing too.

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Speaker 5: You can get a good prop early, like you can

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean to start like by this

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Speaker 4: You know. So those are things you kind of look at,

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Speaker 5: Know, look at the ross, look at the situation, look

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Speaker 5: I can see this happening, not just a random bet,

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Speaker 4: Already we can't parlay that.

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Speaker 5: It's only a single bet, so it's it's not the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred to one is plus ten thousand, because

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Speaker 3: It's basically, for every one dollar you bet, you win

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh fifty thousand.

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Speaker 5: I hope you win, though I hear that I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Like I feel like I would have totally

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Speaker 3: But truly that does feel like great value, like get

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Speaker 3: So you took that bet?

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Speaker 5: I wish I Actually the funny part is I advise

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Speaker 5: So I looked at the West as a whole. Everyone

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Speaker 5: You're at least winning forty five games gets him alone.

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Speaker 5: You're getting Jamal Murray back thought that he always.

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Speaker 5: games guarantees you they're gonna be good. I thought the

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00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 5: rest of the West had a lot of questions. Thought

446
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 5: the Clippers had questions. The Warriors were gonna have questions

447
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 5: because they're a older team coming off a long season,

448
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 5: and obviously we saw them We're down as the season

449
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 5: went on. The Lakers were gonna have issues because they

450
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 5: are two best guys can hurt a lot. Just everyone

451
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 5: in the West had a lot of issues. I never

452
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 5: really trusted Memphis Phoenix. You know, you know, obviously this

453
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 5: was for the A training for KD. The way they

454
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 5: went out last year, you knew they were never gonna

455
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 5: be back as a whole again. You knew that was over.

456
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 5: That rule was never gonna be the same. So everyone

457
00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 5: out West had a lot of issues, and I felt

458
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 5: like didn't have the least amount of issues. So that

459
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 5: was the process behind it. And also, like I thought,

460
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 5: was the best player in the conference, so him with

461
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 5: a healthy squad, take your chances.

462
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: That's very reasonable.

463
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 3: The odds heading into last season, Celtic's plus five hundred,

464
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 3: the favorite Golden State, and I mean they were in

465
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: the finals together the previous seasons, that that makes sense. Milwaukee,

466
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Clippers, which makes sense, Phoenix Suns, seventy six Ers,

467
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 3: Miami Heat, but they like so the Heat were favored

468
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 3: over them, over over the Nuggets. And then you get

469
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: to Denver, and then Denver was on the same footing

470
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 3: with the Lakers and pretty close to like the Grizzlies

471
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 3: and the Mavericks, right right, which is yeah, yeah, that's

472
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 3: pretty wild. That's all.

473
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 5: No One talked about the Nuggets, No one on the

474
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 5: no one in the mainstream media talk about the Nuggets.

475
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 5: Everything was about the glamour teams or the glamber players

476
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 5: and Jokic. Before this season, people really didn't talk about

477
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 5: he doesn't do much an off season. He goes home

478
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 5: like there's no tmz of Yo kicch like like he's

479
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 5: not out there fighting people in the streets.

480
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 4: Like he literally goes home and rides horse's swims.

481
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, get horses, but yeah, there you go.

482
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: The only thing I've saw a clip of him on

483
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: a kayaking trip was the most I've seen in the

484
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: off season so far, and people were like mobbing him

485
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: on a river. But yeah, he seems to be He

486
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: seems to be pretty focused in the offseason.

487
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: Is there any team heading into this season you feel

488
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 3: like is similarly flying under the radar?

489
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 5: So if this is a very big if we like

490
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 5: that if Zion gets this stuff together in New Orleans,

491
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 5: like that would be the one where it's like, hey,

492
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 5: if he stays healthy and Brent Ingham stays healthy, with

493
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 5: the supporting cast that they have, they could be the

494
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 5: team that can surprise people and make a run. That

495
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: would be the because they have a lot of talent,

496
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 5: it just it never you know, really clicks, Like that's

497
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 5: the issue that they.

498
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 4: Do have good shooting.

499
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: They do have some guys that can make plays, like

500
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 5: Herb Jones is a very good defender. With that being said, though,

501
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 5: it's just hard to believe in Zion staying healthy, believing

502
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 5: in brandon Ingram saying healthy for a long period of time.

503
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 5: And it's not that they both get hurt. They both

504
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 5: get hurt missed like six weeks, like they missed a

505
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 5: few days, Like they're out for multiple pay periods, and

506
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 5: if you're out for multiple pay periods, it's not gonna

507
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: end well for you. So that's my only concern. But

508
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 5: if I had to put a lot a long shot,

509
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 5: it would be the Pelicans.

510
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting I had when we went into the

511
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: sports book because I didn't know what you were talking about,

512
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 3: the thing about how they weren't taking bets on like

513
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: props on like who would win each thing. My intention

514
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 3: was to bet on Zion for most improved because he's

515
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: like way down there, like not not even in the conversation,

516
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 3: but like if he just stays healthy and does what

517
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: we know he can do and is like you know,

518
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 3: in the conversation, like top five MVP conversation, like like

519
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 3: Jaw a couple years back or last year when he

520
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: was suddenly like so good and like kind of what

521
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: people thought he could be, and he was like up

522
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: there near MVP conversation. I feel like that could happen

523
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: for Zion if he just like stays healthy. Obviously big if,

524
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: but that feels like there's some value there because I

525
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: think some of the off court stories have maybe deflated

526
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: his value a little bit.

527
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, And also was Zion's been an All Star

528
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 5: times alrighty, So I don't know if he can win

529
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 5: most improve Like, I don't know if you would get

530
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: voted for. It doesn't quite make it doesn't make sense

531
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 5: in a sense. I don't see him winning that one.

532
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if they would give him that based

533
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 5: off his resume.

534
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, it was a smart bet that

535
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 3: I was thinking of making.

536
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: Jack's driving back to Vegas, He's like, can I can

537
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: I switch this one out?

538
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 3: Can I? I'd like to get a return where's the

539
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 3: returns window?

540
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

541
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: Come back player? If they have comeback player that I

542
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: think you're good.

543
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: Though, right, So I mean who And again, like when

544
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 2: you're looking at individual futures and things like that, what

545
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: what sort of like the analysis that you take for example,

546
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: like with Most Improved right now. Obviously Jack had a

547
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: genius sort of four D chess idea with Zion, if you.

548
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: Had to go more traditional, how are you looking at it?

549
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 5: So it's really about opportunity and also contract situation, like,

550
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: so are you gonna be playing a lot of minutes?

551
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 4: What's your contract looking like? Are you playing for a contract?

552
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: You know?

553
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 5: Are you in a contract year? There's a lot of

554
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 5: things I look into it. So, for instance, in this situation,

555
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 5: a guy that super talented, but as he plays on

556
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 5: a team that does weird things with young players, John think,

557
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 5: come on, good, he's like fifty five to one right

558
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 5: now on DraftKings, and he's for Most Improved. We know

559
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 5: he's talented, he's showing flashes, but this year they're actually

560
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 5: gonna have to play him, Like, they're gonna have to

561
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 5: play him no matter what. This way the roster is,

562
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 5: the way the size is lined up, They're gonna have

563
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: to play him. I do believe that even though Chris

564
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 5: Paul's a little older in the tooth, having a guy

565
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 5: like that being able to spoon feed him certain assist

566
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 5: and get him going early and often, I think that

567
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 5: will help. But I just think that him playing getting

568
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: guarantee twenty five minutes a night will help out a lot.

569
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: Because they're an older team, they need young athletic legs.

570
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 5: We saw that in the playoffs, like Sacramento literally ran

571
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 5: them off the court at times.

572
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: So John the kamonga fifty five to one.

573
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 5: I think it was a very good play for those

574
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 5: out there looking for a long shot type of type

575
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: of action.

576
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, So I I think I messed up my bets. Really.

577
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: I was looking at whether, like the Warriors have really

578
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: long odds for because that that feels like a thing

579
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: where people might be off off the scent a little

580
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: bit because of what the Lakers did to them. But

581
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: I think the Chris Paul signing was too splashy in there,

582
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 3: you know, in the top ten NBA Championship odds. So yeah,

583
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,239
Speaker 3: I mean looking back at the one thing that like, like,

584
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: we were looking at the biggest preseason underdogs to win

585
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: the title, and it's pretty interesting. There's some teams on

586
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 3: there that I wouldn't have expected, Like the seven eight

587
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: Celtics were ten to one underdogs. Their win loss over

588
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: under was forty nine point five. This was the first

589
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: year of the Big Three. I don't know if people

590
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: if maybe this was before, but like that that trade

591
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: happened before the season, so it's not like but they

592
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 3: ended up going sixty six and sixteen, and despite some

593
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: like you know, seven round series in the earlier rounds,

594
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: they should have been the favorite, like based on what

595
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 3: the team looked like together, got a couple of Spurs

596
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: teams in there, Houston Rockets when they first won it, Pistons,

597
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: the Raptors before when they had Kawhi were big underdogs,

598
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: the Mavericks the year that they won obviously, I think

599
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: they were big underdogs heading into the playoffs, but the

600
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen twenty fifteen Golden State Warriors were the biggest

601
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: underdog in NBA history preseason underdog because there's some of

602
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: it that was just like, you can't win shooting threes.

603
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: You can't win a title shooting threes, Like you need

604
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: to be able to like bully ball at it in there.

605
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: But also they were just a team that we had

606
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: seen not be able to do it a couple of times.

607
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: But the reason they couldn't do it is they were

608
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: young and they just you know, they hadn't put it together.

609
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: But that's instructive to me. I guess the Nuggets from

610
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: this past season would have been the third or fourth.

611
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: They would have been righted with the Raptors in terms

612
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: of long shot odds, biggest long shots to win the title.

613
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: And that one feels crazy to me. That one feels

614
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: like we should have known heading into this season. But

615
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 3: that might just be recency bias.

616
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: It's tough because like, we don't well sometimes I say we,

617
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 5: but the national media doesn't cover the Nuggets like that.

618
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 5: If the Nuggets played in a bigger city, then yeah,

619
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: it would the odd would not have been that high

620
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 5: and there would have been a lot more tension on them.

621
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 5: But the Nuggets playing the Mountain time zone, unfortunately, no

622
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 5: one says about the Mountain time zone. It sucks, it's unfortunate,

623
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 5: but it goes Eastern time zone Central, and then from

624
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 5: the Mountain time zone. Everybody either watching games or getting

625
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 5: ready for the West Coast games. No one here's for

626
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: that Denver, Utah. You know, stretch again like it's unfortunately sucks,

627
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 5: it really does, but people are getting ready for the Lakers, Warriors,

628
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: Clippers sons that when they're on the right time zone

629
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: to start, the Mountain time longing just gets looked over

630
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: and it's just what it is, unfortunately.

631
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: So I mean like it's just interesting that like because

632
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: of just sort of those factors that suddenly the odds

633
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: can be favorable because just purely all of the attention

634
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: is going the other way. So in a way, like

635
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: it just it seems like something worth noting in that

636
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: sense that sometimes those odds are better purely because that

637
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: all of our attention just goes on like these major

638
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: markets on the coasts.

639
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, and it goes the other way around too.

640
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: You're not going to see favorable Laker lines with anything

641
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 5: because they don't want to take a loss.

642
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 4: Like they don't want you know, they have good odds.

643
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: The Lakers for it better because if the ad hits,

644
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: it's a bad day for casino. Seems are business as well,

645
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 5: they have to make smart decisions.

646
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: So you're not going to.

647
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 5: See favorable odds on Laker futures when they have a

648
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 5: good team, or Nick futures when they have a good team,

649
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 5: just not because the amount of people who would bet it,

650
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 5: and if it does hit, it becomes rough. I live

651
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 5: in Vegas, So the Golden Knights won the title this

652
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 5: Year's not hurt by that. That's just how it goes.

653
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like betting markets are a lot closer to

654
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: the stock market than I realized, in the sense that

655
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: like the people placing the bets really end up setting

656
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: the odds. Like obviously the book makers start like put

657
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: put the starting point where it is, but then it

658
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: goes up and down based on like how much money

659
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: is being wagered, so that they you know, even it

660
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: out so that it's as close as possible. But I

661
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: was always you know, one of those people who was like, man,

662
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: you look at like the over under and the line,

663
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 3: and you know, it's so often it's like within a

664
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: half a point, and you're like, how are these guys

665
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: so smart? And it's like, well, it's actually like the

666
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: wisdom of the crowds, like driving driving that, and just

667
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's pretty interesting.

668
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: So anything to keep an eye on, because again I'm

669
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: like I'm sentimental part of me, like I don't like

670
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: to bet on the Lakers because that's my team and

671
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: every time I've done so in the past, it's blown

672
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: up in my face.

673
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: And again to your point about the odds.

674
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: Like who's someone that you feel is kind of in

675
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: that sort of sweet spot in terms of like not

676
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: quite getting enough attention. But at the same time, the

677
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: odds are slightly favorable from a better's perspective.

678
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 5: Just in general or like a team wise, like in

679
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: terms of winning it all.

680
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like in terms of winning at all, because I'm

681
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: just looking at all these odds, like every time it's

682
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: doing math, I'm like, Okay, how much can I make off?

683
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: That obviously not the best motivation when placing a bet,

684
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: but I'm just by using that sort of logic and

685
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: not getting my own sentimental attachment involved.

686
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Objectively, what like.

687
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Do you see anything here where there's like a combination

688
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: of the odds being good and a lack of national

689
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: attention or maybe lack of mainstream media narrative that makes

690
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: it an attractive bet.

691
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: The odds aren't great, But with that being said, it

692
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: Miami gets Dame, they got action, Like they're at nine

693
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: to one. If they do get Dame, they have three

694
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 5: All Star type of players, and they've been close, alrighty,

695
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 5: Like they've been close twice, Like you know, they've had

696
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: their moments in two final series. If they get another

697
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: All Star and they're able to tweak their rosters, like

698
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: we know how they do they have a good shots

699
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 5: anybody like that trade finally goes through sometime this summer.

700
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: I would say Miami at nine.

701
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: To one's probably the best bet because we know how

702
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: they are out east. You're adding another guy that can

703
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: create and shoot from long distance and open with the

704
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 5: floor for the other guys. That would be the team

705
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: I would feel comfortable in taking a shot with. I

706
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: don't trust Philly, don't trust the Clippers.

707
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: What do you trust Philly Man Steady Rock in the playoffs?

708
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: You can trust them to go out in the second

709
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: round every year without a doubt that thing? Do they

710
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: take outs on that?

711
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: Like?

712
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Has there ever been worse odds? Though? I feel like

713
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: you could. You could win five dollars on a thousand

714
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: dollars bet if you bet Philly going out in the

715
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: second round, Right, that's.

716
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 4: Wild, That is true. It's actually true though.

717
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 5: But you can bet it on before the series starts,

718
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 5: so they're playing somebody in their favored and you feel

719
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: that they're not gonna win and you can make some money.

720
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

721
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: The other team I took is a Phoenix Suns. I

722
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: did not take it because I thought there's good value there.

723
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: I took it because I am interested in them. I

724
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: root for Frank Vogel and I root for KD always

725
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: and so gives me an extra incentive to kind of

726
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: be be watching them. But I feel like there's probably

727
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: bad value on that one because they've gotten so much

728
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 3: media attention.

729
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: Right, it's not that bad, Like it's it's six and

730
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: a half to one pretty good money. Like if you

731
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: can make six to fifty off one hundred bucks, you're

732
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: doing pretty good. Like that's not bad. It's just more

733
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 5: of you think about the play itself. You think about

734
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: can all the guys stay healthy? And can they can

735
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: that roster get a little bit better between now and April,

736
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 5: Like those are two things that you kind of think

737
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: about because right now the roster you got three guys

738
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: that are really high paid and a bunch of minimum guys.

739
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that works in twenty twenty three.

740
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: But they can tweak the stuff, and they can tweak

741
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: the rosters a little bit more. They may have a

742
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 5: shot because they played Denver the toughest, Like they gave

743
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 5: Denver the toughest runout of anybody in the postseason. So

744
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: if they're that close, who knows. And that's not a

745
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: bad bet. I actually like that bet. I have health,

746
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 5: like that's my thing of the health is the biggest.

747
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: Issue that means so much. You've made my day. And

748
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: then in terms of player props, like award props Rookie

749
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: of the Year when Biama is minus two hundred, meaning

750
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: you have to bet two hundred dollars to win one hundred,

751
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: like he's nailed on Favorite Scoot plus three fifty. You

752
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: bet one hundred, you win three fifty. Chet went, you

753
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: bet one hundred U five hundred. I like the Chet money.

754
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: I think he looks like he's ready to do some

755
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: things and in a good situation. But I feel like

756
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: it's going to be Scooter Wembyama.

757
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be Wimby.

758
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: As long as he stays healthy and plays enough games,

759
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: it's going to be him. However, if he does not

760
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: win it, it probably goes to Scoop because in Portland

761
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: he's gonna be the guy that give the ball to

762
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 5: right away and for the game he plays and people

763
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 5: like to see.

764
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: He's gonna put up more stuff.

765
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 5: Now we have a good season, but highlights and the

766
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: production in the usage, we're all gonna favorite Scoot unfortunately

767
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: when it comes to the awards, and Scoot would probably

768
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 5: win it if Wimby doesn't.

769
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: So I put three thousand dollars down on Grady Dick winning.

770
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: Again. We appreciate the donation and the contribution to the park.

771
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: But just just think though, okay, so okay, So see

772
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: that guy's neck, man, the visible his vision, just.

773
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: The straight neck prowess and the sequence. Suit.

774
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't know now that I'm hearing the way a

775
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: professional talks about it, maybe I have made a mistake a.

776
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: Lot of money, like you could have spread that around like.

777
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: Look see and I'm still learning. I'm still learning, Jameson,

778
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

779
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 4: I understand.

780
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: H Can I stay with you man when I'm in

781
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: town because I might I might need a place to

782
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: just kind of lay.

783
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: Look, you might, you may, you know, you may have

784
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: a night. You make it a night.

785
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Here's another hair brand. Long odds bet that I kind

786
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: of really like defensive player of the year. If wembin

787
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: Ama is your rookie of the year, as you say

788
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: he is, he is going to block so many shots.

789
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: But if he's blocking three to four shots a game, like,

790
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: won't he be in the conversation for Defensive Player of

791
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: the Year.

792
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: I'll do you one better.

793
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 5: If he does all that and the numbers back it up,

794
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: and like the Spurs holding teams like one hundred and

795
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: three points a game or something like that, he will

796
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: be in the conversation for.

797
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: The award, if not winning it.

798
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, getting thirty five to one on that, that's worth

799
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: a flyer, like.

800
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, I got one. I got one.

801
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: You make that bet and just make it and whatever

802
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 5: happens happens, because you know there's a pathway too. Because

803
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 5: here's the thing, we all know how these things go.

804
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: Once momentium starts, you can't really stop it. Five shots

805
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: a game and changing another five that's gonna get talked

806
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 5: about every day while the season is going on.

807
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 4: And the Spurs are gonna be better.

808
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 5: I'm not sure they're gonna be a playoff fro nothing

809
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: like that, but they're gonna be at least better than

810
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 5: not gonna.

811
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: Be a walkover that that play has action.

812
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: I'd rather here's the thing, I'd rather bet bet that

813
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 5: at thirty five to one, then bet go Bear or

814
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis at their odds, just because if you're gonna

815
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: if you're gonna put put a features bound something. Make

816
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 5: it worthwhile, Like make it worth it if you hit it,

817
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: make it worth like, hey, I just came up thirty

818
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 5: five hundred bucks.

819
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at with it.

820
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: That's why I'm at with Grady dick Man. Exactly, you

821
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: stole it right out of my mouth, man, exactly. Gotta

822
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: make it worth it, Gotta make it worth it.

823
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: There.

824
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 3: But he does, like you in his quote unquote bad game,

825
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Like he just changes every like just anything anyone's doing

826
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 3: on offense when he when he's on defense, like the shots.

827
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: And maybe this was he was playing Charlotte in that game,

828
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: so maybe they're just like shooting with their eyes closed

829
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: or something, and that's why open.

830
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 5: Like I saw James bot Night shoot with all eyes

831
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: open and it was not good, right, you know it

832
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 5: was Brandon Miller as well, has been rough this summer.

833
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: They were shooting all eyes open. It's just what it was.

834
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 5: But the one thing that did stand out is they

835
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 5: did not attempt to go to the basket.

836
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 4: Noight, that was the thing.

837
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 5: So it was like, oh, so Wimmen's having a bad game,

838
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: but he's shutting everything down defensively, so it's not really

839
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: a bad game.

840
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: He's just struck in offensively.

841
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 5: That's probably Oh, if the player of the year has action,

842
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: because I bet you what, by the time the season starts,

843
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: that never will be close to twenty to one, if

844
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: not lower, it will not be at thirty five to one.

845
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: Come out late October.

846
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he you know, like I feel like he

847
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: will get dunked on quite a few times.

848
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: Yes, don't have.

849
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 3: The thing that like drives this a lot of the

850
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: time is like the analytics and you know, defensive analytics

851
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: and like what people are shooting with him on the

852
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: court or with him in the in their region when

853
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: they're when they're taking a shot, and like that feels

854
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 3: like it's going to be a problem for other for

855
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: anybody going up against him. So love it. Love that.

856
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: Bet I am a professional beteur. Y'all have heard it.

857
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: And I'm better.

858
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: Call me please if somebody at the casino can help

859
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: me get a refund for this, because I'm confident in it.

860
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: That's that's the only thing.

861
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a quick break and we're going

862
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: to be right back to close this out with the rapid.

863
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Fire round of questioning after this.

864
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: And we're back and guess what Jamison, you have wandered

865
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: into the fastest question and answer sec in an all

866
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: podcasting history. Okay, shoot family questioning. Oh yeah, Now what

867
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna do. We're gonna ask you a question. Just

868
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: give us the answer that first pops into your mind.

869
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: Just send it right back. Don't expand don't give us

870
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of explanations.

871
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

872
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: And if we start rambling on, you better stop us. Okay,

873
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, because this is on you to help out

874
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: right now. I got you, Okay, I like that if

875
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: you're in, so.

876
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Are we, Jack Big.

877
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: Shooting alley is a phrase. I thought it was like, what,

878
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 3: you know, what they're talking about in like an action movie.

879
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: You're like going into a place where everyone's like gonna

880
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: be able to shoot at you from both sides.

881
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: You said, shooting alley, shooting a bottleneck.

882
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: Nah, that's not it anyways. Uh, you know, tune in

883
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: three months from now when I when I think of.

884
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: It, aspire is what is what Jabar said.

885
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's get into it, Brian, start the clock. I

886
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: know it is called a kill zone.

887
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: There's another thing that people say, if you wonder, that's

888
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: from like World War One, trench warfare.

889
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's a really good term. Anyway.

890
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: See and Jamison, that is an example where you can

891
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: come in and be like, hey, let's get on with this,

892
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: because now we're ranting about World War one trench warfare.

893
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: Shooting gallery, isn't it?

894
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: But okay, corral Jabari's asking.

895
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's a it's a different phrase.

896
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: You've walked into the.

897
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: You've wandered into a bad situation. Sorry, that is what

898
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: you were thinking of. I know what a shooting gallery is.

899
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, you're going first? Or am I going first?

900
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: You can go first, all right?

901
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: Uh, Jamison, we're talking about teams we want to cover

902
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: in the off season.

903
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: Obviously going to talk about Spurs the Spurs, but.

904
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Also we want to figure out who else we want

905
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: to add to this list or remove from this list.

906
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 2: We got Spurs, we got Oka see Magic, Suns, Blazers, Mavericks.

907
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: What are you doing to that you're adding or taking

908
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: off from that list?

909
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: We had rockets, we removed them.

910
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: We removed rockets.

911
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think the rocket should be added because

912
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 5: they all lost them.

913
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: Oh wow, they got a lot of stuff.

914
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 5: It's a lot of a lot of characters, a lot

915
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: of players, a lot of just storylines.

916
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: Like, I think you're not gonna have a dull moment there.

917
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: They may not be good, but you have a lot

918
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: of things going on, and you have a coach that

919
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: is a pretty good coach that is there for a

920
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: reason that he you know, lost his job at other

921
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 5: places for a reason. I think there's a lot to

922
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 5: cover there, So you would never have a dull moment.

923
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 5: I think would be the team I kind of like,

924
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 5: you know, a race, because I don't think Dallas is

925
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: gonna be thank you.

926
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: I was waiting for someone to say that.

927
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: Different reasons and or they can kind of go away

928
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 5: to they just pay Germany Grant a bunch of money,

929
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 5: so I would, Yeah, I would go away.

930
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: I got a pitch for a new team, the Pacers. Yes, yes,

931
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: I feel like the Pacers are interesting.

932
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 5: Very very now Haliburg gotta stay healthy, but yes, I'm

933
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: with that.

934
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll take that. So we we've got

935
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: a updated list and we are in the off seasons,

936
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: so it would be about the time that we'd start

937
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: covering these teams if we were men of our word, yes,

938
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: but they would have to be men of our word Yeah,

939
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: which TVD No, no one's ever accused us of this.

940
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Being men of our word.

941
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: Yes. If you could have any player's skill set for

942
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: a day, can be on the court off the court.

943
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: Who are you choosing and what skill set is it?

944
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 5: Uh? Kevin Durant and his Twitter personality, he doesn't care,

945
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: he doesn't care. Why he'd be the guy like Katie

946
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 5: would be the guy?

947
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, who okay?

948
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Ultimate peak? Who is who is the ultimate peak? In

949
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: their prime? Is it prime?

950
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 4: Shack?

951
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: Prime?

952
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: Will prime?

953
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: Koreem m hm two thousand? Shack is the scariest player

954
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: I've ever seen. I'm thirty seven, so like that was

955
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 5: the sky I've never seen. We've never seen anything like that. Yeah,

956
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do about that. By Shack's the

957
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 5: only guy to where his flaw didn't matter, law didn't matter.

958
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: Like everyone else, flaw end up part of them one

959
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: one way or another in their Preaker prime. He's the

960
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 5: only guy where they're flawed, it didn't matter. They still

961
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 5: repeat it with the flaw yet.

962
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: Right, man? I really want to watch more old school

963
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: Kareem because he kind of had Wemby like stature and build,

964
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: and that's like when watching Wemby has made me interested

965
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: in old school Kareem. Yes, if he if he could

966
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: to develop like a skyhook type situation, we'd all be

967
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: in trouble. The show would be in trouble because nobody

968
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: everyone would just be like, oh, the league's over.

969
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it gets worse.

970
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: I think when he develops the three and I think

971
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: it gets way worse for everyone.

972
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's already it's already there in some games.

973
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jamison, we got to keep this going, man,

974
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

975
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: You got paid it in right there. You had to

976
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: step up, man, I'm sorry. You know, we got to

977
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: keep this going. We got yeah, yeah, Jack is it me?

978
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

979
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right. You asked the you could

980
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: take two players from all of history to create your

981
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: Mad Boosti's Edition NBA jam Team. Which two players do

982
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 3: you take?

983
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: You know what, give me Barkley and give me Magic.

984
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Magic will be good.

985
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I see that.

986
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: Now.

987
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: What is it about Magic Johnson?

988
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: I mean he's the best point guard ever and you

989
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: didn't need to play a certain way with him what

990
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: you wanted to play. You want to slow down, slow down?

991
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 5: If you want to run, you can run. He made

992
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 5: everyone better and uh, he's the guy that he literally

993
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 5: worked with anyone, Like whatever roster you give him, he

994
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 5: would make it work. It wasn't oh I need shooters

995
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: or oh we're going to play this way, or hey

996
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 5: we need a stretch five.

997
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: No, like whoever, whatever he had, he went with and

998
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: that would be the way.

999
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 5: So I was like Barkley just because the Barkley is

1000
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 5: unique and Barkey doesn't get the credit, Like there's a

1001
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: generation people only know Barkley from T and T and

1002
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: half watching NBA games instead of being a dominant player.

1003
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 4: So just do chucking to give him some love.

1004
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: Rather than the guy who played Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1005
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I remember that.

1006
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: Ye Shack, by the way, this is a this is

1007
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 3: a new question. I think for this, I'm going to

1008
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: steph Shack by the way.

1009
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Yeah, no, actually I like that.

1010
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: I like that.

1011
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: Uh can you please rank the following Yardbird spots, Lolos,

1012
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: Gusses and Rosco's.

1013
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a that's a good question.

1014
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, h Yardbird has the best chicken and waffles I've

1015
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: ever had.

1016
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 4: Okay, ever, and I've had all three of the places.

1017
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 5: You're talking about yeah yardbirds one, Rosco's is two you

1018
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 5: know it fell off, and Gus is three, and.

1019
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: Then Lolo's not in the mix time.

1020
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: Sorry, I apologize. Lolos is good. So it depends which

1021
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 5: lolos you go to. The ones in Phoenix are way

1022
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: better than the ones in Vegas and other cities because

1023
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 5: they originated in Phoenix. So and Phoenix is right there Roscos,

1024
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: but the one out here it's okay, but it's not

1025
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 5: the same quite not the same.

1026
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 3: Yeah all right. And finally the ultimate question, Yeah Jack

1027
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: or Miles.

1028
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 4: TI okay? Like push? So talking about betting push.

1029
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 3: Miles is reminding you by h wow?

1030
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: Wow?

1031
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: Is that?

1032
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: And and now okay, so what what what about my

1033
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: greedy dick bet that doesn't move the neither of No, I.

1034
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: Mean I just made you money with that one. Think

1035
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: by the way, yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so it's a.

1036
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: Line we will move, by the way. But yes, not

1037
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: the push.

1038
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, dealers showing twenty one and we got twenty one.

1039
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: Okay, somebody back like if you you push on the bet,

1040
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: you get your money back, So it would be a push.

1041
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll work with that because I definitely made some

1042
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: some terrible bets in my life. Uh, but Jamison Welsh,

1043
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us on Miles of

1044
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 2: Jack Got Mad Boosty's Where can people basking your wisdom

1045
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: and knowledge online?

1046
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: At Twitter? At the Amison I think we'll sell Twitter

1047
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 5: now by the time this shows. Hopefully, Yeah, might be threads.

1048
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 5: I think the threads is the same thing I think

1049
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: I have to But yeah, Twitter is always good.

1050
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 4: If you're in Vegas.

1051
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: I'm usually at rhetor Rock or other casinos around town,

1052
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 5: so definitely, Uh, don't be shy and say hi, there

1053
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: you go.

1054
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: Damn, that's cool. You can just be like, come to

1055
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 3: this casino. I'm usually there, right.

1056
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 4: Rock yep, we have a hotel.

1057
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 5: Lastly, lastly, if you're betting, make sure you get some

1058
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: sort of reward for your betting. Make sure you get

1059
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: some sort of comper perse for you betting your own money,

1060
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 5: whether it's hotels, whether it's free meals, whether it's trip whatever,

1061
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 5: whatever it is your betting, make sure you get some

1062
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 5: sort of benefit from it.

1063
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: How do you do that?

1064
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. We didn't.

1065
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: We'll have to have you back.

1066
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: On there you go exactly all right?

1067
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, make sure you follow us on Twitter, follow

1068
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: us on hashtag mad Boosti's b w st i e as.

1069
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: You can follow me at Miles of Gray.

1070
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 3: On comment Sure, Brian, Yeah there it is.

1071
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: Uh and yeah, just check us out, check out all

1072
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: the links and stuff for show links, updates, et cetera.

1073
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for this week, and we're gonna

1074
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: be right back at it on the next one.

1075
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 3: Bye bye,