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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome in everybody.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio er toords Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we are live, eleven.

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Speaker 2: PM Eastern Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm in LA. Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin is in Nashville. We are less officially than one

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Speaker 2: hour away till Super Bowl Sunday on the East Coast

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Speaker 2: Seahawks Patriots six thirty Eastern time. Jason Martin, how are you?

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Speaker 2: My man? And uh last and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: start on a negative, but last week we talked and

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Speaker 2: you know you weren't uh oh my goodness. Sorry. Kentucky

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Tennessee almost him. Yeah, he did not the lead

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Speaker 2: of the show. But Kentucky playing Tennessee Tennessee misses a

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Speaker 2: half court buzzer beater that would have tied the game.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky now is quietly won nine of ten. But that's

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Speaker 2: not what we're here to talk about. We are here

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Speaker 2: to talk about Seahawks Patriots six thirty Eastern Super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we also have a final in the

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Speaker 2: Clippers Lakers game as well. Steph Curry and Luka Dacics

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Speaker 2: in street clothes for that one. What did I say

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Speaker 2: Clippers Lakers whatever, Glorias La Lakers win one oh five

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Speaker 2: to ninety nine. Steph and Luca in street clothes. Anyway, Jmart,

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Speaker 2: I've updated everything other than the big Game. How are you?

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Speaker 2: How is life? Are you ready for Super Bowl someday?

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Speaker 3: Look, man, we're good. Everything's good, and it's gonna be. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, by the time we get to the game,

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Speaker 3: I'll be ready to watch the game. In response to

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Speaker 3: last week in which I said I just couldn't possibly

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Speaker 3: care less about this matchup right now. And that was

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Speaker 3: a week ago, and I said, you know, we'll get

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Speaker 3: closer to the game, we'll see how it goes. It

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Speaker 3: hadn't changed. Brother, doesn't mean I'm not excited because I

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Speaker 3: watch I love the NFL, I love football generally, so

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Speaker 3: I'm excited from that perspective. But this has definitely been

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Speaker 3: the week where I have like consumed the least amount

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Speaker 3: of previewing for a Super Bowl by far. Ever. I

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Speaker 3: just I hope it is a great game. But I

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Speaker 3: think part of my reasoning here, I'm not gonna spoil this,

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Speaker 3: but I kind of don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a very good game. Oh it's just my that's just

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Speaker 3: my personal I have felt the same way. Nothing has changed.

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Speaker 3: I hope to be wrong, and I may well be wrong,

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Speaker 3: but I think this is going to be a blowout,

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Speaker 3: like one of those kind of Super Bowls, that it's

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Speaker 3: just going to be a dud. By the time we

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Speaker 3: get to midway through the third quarter, we can probably

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Speaker 3: tune out of this thing. That's just my that that

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Speaker 3: has not changed. I have not waivered on it. I

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Speaker 3: thought about it, and I just can't go any other

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Speaker 3: way than there. I just I think we're getting to

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Speaker 3: blow out super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So we got three hours to preview this game. And

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Speaker 2: I don't want to give away everything.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I don't. I'll try not to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, no, no, But I'm curious because obviously, listen, everybody's

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Speaker 2: had time to think about this game. Everyone's had time

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Speaker 2: to talk. You know, listen, this is what we do

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Speaker 2: for two straight weeks. We just talk about this game NonStop.

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Speaker 2: I listen. I don't want to put words in your mouth.

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Speaker 2: I assume when you say you expect a blowout that

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Speaker 2: you like Seattle. What is it about that that gives

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Speaker 2: you so much confidence that Seattle would would have the blowout.

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Speaker 3: So the biggest thing is I feel like Seattle is

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Speaker 3: ready to win the Super Bowl in New England as

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Speaker 3: a head of schedule. Sure, I don't think they're fully

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Speaker 3: formed yet. I think they're here before they should be here.

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Speaker 3: I think that you look at this and look, the

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Speaker 3: weather's obviously going to be better. But that offense could

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Speaker 3: against Broncos. Well, if anybody has a better defense than

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Speaker 3: in a shootout, which I don't think they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: right now who my MVP is gonna be, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: have a tough day. I think they're gonna try to

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Speaker 3: like that team is very young in many respects. I

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Speaker 3: think that oftentimes when you get into a Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: And I feel like that's the biggest difference. Seattle looks

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they ended up here, but they're here,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes you can play loose, but I don't see

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Speaker 3: it that way. I just I don't think that they're

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Speaker 3: And you get to this point and it's just I've

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Speaker 3: seen Seattle steamroll better teams than they're going to see tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: And so that that's been my feeling the entire time.

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Speaker 3: And I've tried to talk myself out of it because

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people think this is going

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Speaker 3: to be a very close game. I have a tremendous

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Speaker 3: amount of respect for Mike Vrabel. I watched him coach

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Speaker 3: year after year here at Nashville, covering the Titans on

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Speaker 3: a day to day basis, I just don't think it's

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Speaker 3: going to be that way this time. I think Seattle

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Speaker 2: But so all I'll say is, you know, we have

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Speaker 2: three hours to break this down. But the whether it

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Speaker 2: happens or not, it's hard. It's hard to argue with

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Speaker 2: the logic. Nine straight wins for Seattle to end the

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Speaker 2: regular season, two very challenging postseason games against division rivals

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Speaker 2: that know you well you know, and you just look

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Speaker 2: the last what month six weeks of the season. You

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Speaker 2: beat San Francisco twice, including the playoffs once at their place.

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Speaker 2: You beat the Rams twice, You beat the Panthers, who,

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Speaker 2: you know, whatever you think of the Panthers, they made

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Speaker 2: And so I'm kind of with you without giving away

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Speaker 2: all of our picks here in the first segment. You know,

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Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta work for these picks a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's just tough. And you know, listen, I think

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Speaker 2: two things can be true. Is you can acknowledge that

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Speaker 2: the Patriots have earned their way here, sure, but also

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Speaker 2: acknowledging like the path wasn't the toughest that we've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: you know, and and again they've earned their way here,

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Speaker 2: but you look at who they played and who they beat.

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Speaker 2: Last place schedule, the division essentially had for you know,

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Speaker 2: Jets and the Dolphins. You split with the Bills. The Bills.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to say that the Bills are a mess

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Speaker 2: is again, whether it happens or not, it's hard for

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Speaker 2: me to argue with the logic because of exactly what

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Speaker 2: I just said is that, like the Rams are just

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Speaker 2: so much more battle tested, the road was so much tougher.

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Speaker 2: You can't blame the Patriots for who they had to

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Speaker 2: play and how they got here. But it doesn't change

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Speaker 2: the fact that everything you said is true as well.

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Speaker 3: Jmart. Yeah, Look, they're woll coached and I hope to

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Speaker 3: be wrong. And maybe that's been part of the reason

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Speaker 3: I haven't been able to get into this matchup is

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Speaker 3: because I think this is going to be a blowout,

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Speaker 3: and I hate blowout super Bowls. Everybody does. We hate

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Speaker 3: blog games period in sports. It It has that feel

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Speaker 3: to me, which probably mean it's just gonna be this

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Speaker 3: all time classic that goes all night long and we

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Speaker 3: talk about it for the rest of our lives. I

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Speaker 3: understand that I might be saying the stage for that. Man,

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Speaker 3: I hope that's the case. I don't want to be

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Speaker 3: right if right means that this thing's going to be

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Speaker 3: a laugher and we're just going to move on from

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Speaker 3: it the next day and not think about it ever again.

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Speaker 3: Look as a Broncos fan, I live through a lot

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Speaker 3: of blowout Super Bowls that did not go our way.

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Speaker 3: Lway lost three in a row. We of course, the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks dominated the Broncos just in the last you know,

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Speaker 3: I just this Seattle team right now is firing on

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Speaker 3: all cylinders. I don't know that they have an answer

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Speaker 3: just I feel like this is the game where May's

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Speaker 3: he's going to have many more opportunities to prove, you know,

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Speaker 3: how great he can be in the future. But I

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Speaker 3: mean you add, I mean, who's more familiar with that

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Speaker 3: New England. I just I feel like everything tilts in

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Speaker 3: blunt about it, but I do think that it's almost

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Speaker 3: impossible not to give away my pick because it kind

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Speaker 3: of defines the deflating nature with which I am approaching

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Speaker 3: this Super Bowl. I'm hoping that we're going to get

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Speaker 3: an all time classic, and I'm going to be eating

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Speaker 3: I just don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it'll be interesting to see. Really, I think how.

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Speaker 3: One or Softy would agree with me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Softie, I almost called him. I think he's still

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and so I assume if he's in

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Speaker 2: doing something better than wanting to hang out with.

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Speaker 3: Us, I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't even text him tonight. But I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what, I think, It'll be interesting to to just

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Speaker 2: see how it all plays out, because it does look

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Speaker 2: like the Seahawks. You know, the coach has been there

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Speaker 2: got the quarterback right, all of that, and it just

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Speaker 2: feels like everything has collicked. It has felt like their

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Speaker 2: year largely most of the year. The Patriots, to your point,

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Speaker 2: do feel a little bit ahead of schedule. So I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, why don't we come back? And why

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Speaker 2: don't we just throw a big bucket of cold water

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Speaker 2: on that whole hypothetical Cause I got a question for you,

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Speaker 2: j mart Everybody loves Sam Donald now, but what if

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Speaker 2: he goes all Sam Donald? What's the conversation going to

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Speaker 2: become Monday We'll discuss that next er toors, Jason Martin

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Speaker 3: But they also have built in equity. It's not about that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the difference. Like, yeah, I can say

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Speaker 2: Let me throw an ultimate curveball at you that I

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Speaker 2: What if he goes out and he's unbelievable, where does

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Speaker 3: interesting one, right, But the point of this exercise is

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Speaker 3: to say, at worst, he's like the third best quarterback

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Speaker 3: in the NFC. Yeah, like at worst, and I think

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Speaker 3: arguably even higher than that. And then you go to

436
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Speaker 3: the AFC and you've got some heavier hitters there. But

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Speaker 3: even if you go through all of this list, he's

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Speaker 3: easily a top ten quarterback in the league. And that

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Speaker 3: might be undercutting it like that. That's what we're talking

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Speaker 3: about here. A dude that was on the scrap heap

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Speaker 3: that Minnesota let go after he won a lot of

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Speaker 3: games last year in the Super Bowl, goes and wins

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Speaker 3: with the Seahawks team behind that rocket defense, but also

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Speaker 3: his connection with his receivers with Barner, the tight end spot.

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Speaker 3: But obviously with JSN, the way they're running football, the

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Speaker 3: way he is kind of handling that offense, everybody seems

447
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Speaker 3: to love the guy, loves playing for him, bouches for

448
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Speaker 3: his character, everything under the sun. Like it is an

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Speaker 3: amazing transformation. It's good to see, like it's it's a

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Speaker 3: feel good story in many ways. But this guy is

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Speaker 3: gonna be, you know, tier one, tier two level quarterback

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Speaker 3: after this season if he wins this game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wins the game and plays well. I

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Speaker 2: think the only one that you sort of have an

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Speaker 2: argument for is Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Matthew.

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Speaker 3: He just won he envy by the way, folks he

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Speaker 3: won the MVP.

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Speaker 2: He's also closing in on forty years old, which is right,

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Speaker 2: you know again, where where with Donald that's what becomes

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Speaker 2: so old?

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Speaker 3: And I think when he's playing really well, I do

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Speaker 3: think Dak there's an argument, sure, because I think Dak.

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Speaker 3: I think Dak's a really solid quarterback. At this point,

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Speaker 3: I have kind of shunned him too much during his career.

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Speaker 3: I'm earning more respect for him the longer his career goes.

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Speaker 3: But those are the only two really that that I

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Speaker 3: look at and think are fair. And I mean that's

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Speaker 3: that's an incredible testament to what Sam donald that just

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Speaker 3: to imagine how easy it would have been for him

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Speaker 3: to give up on himself sure, and just be a

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Speaker 3: backup for his whole career at best, just earned some

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Speaker 3: nice money and then go on to the next phase

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Speaker 3: of his life. No, No, Sam Darnold is playing in

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Speaker 3: a super Bowl deservedly so with an opportunity and in

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Speaker 3: my opinion it's going to win in a throttling tomorrow

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Speaker 3: against the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I'll just wrap by saying this, I think

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Speaker 2: it just proves and I say this all the time,

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Speaker 2: is you know, whenever this draft stuff come, Oh, who

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Speaker 2: do you like this guy or that guy? And it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: where's he getting drafted to? Yes? Offensive? You know what organization?

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Speaker 2: Offensive or defensive? Coach? Coach on the HT. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, we don't everyone knows what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: But the difference between Caleb Williams with Matt Eberflus versus

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was pretty jarring.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Uh so you go on and on down list you

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Speaker 2: get the point. And so I think it shows that

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Speaker 2: we spend so much time talking about the draft, and

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Speaker 2: so much of it are circumstances that are out of

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Speaker 2: guy's control. Sam Darnold obviously playing for a Super Bowl

494
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Speaker 2: his fifth spot, which is unbelievable, credible. Uh, but here

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Speaker 2: we are now we're talking about him. We'll see as

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Speaker 2: potentially maybe the best quarterback in the NFC going into

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Speaker 2: next year. Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: and I for the Fox Sports Radio studios will come back.

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Speaker 2: Want to switch gears to the Patriots side of things

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Speaker 2: and an interesting conversation about a gentleman who won't be

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Speaker 2: on the field on Sunday. We'll discuss that next. First though,

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Speaker 2: NOS desk to Sega, what is trending?

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Speaker 5: Hello, gentlemen, I'm tempted to say that the Patriots' easiest

504
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Speaker 5: path to victory in this big game tomorrow is if

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnald turns it over like he was the first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the season. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably a dumb thing for me to say, Oh, well,

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Speaker 2: if he had throw three turnovers, what do we going

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Speaker 2: to think of him? It's like, or if he throws

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Speaker 2: three or seven.

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Speaker 3: I think he played pretty poorly.

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Speaker 2: I think we would say bad things about every quarterback

514
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Speaker 2: that throws three interceptions. Probably wasn't the best way to

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Speaker 2: set up the conversation.

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Speaker 5: Well, I did mention the last hour. He did lead

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Speaker 5: the league in giveaways with twenty this year, but was

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Speaker 5: noticeably better second half of the season and especially the

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Speaker 5: last month of the season. In that department, I did

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Speaker 5: get two interesting items on Donald the transformation. For six

521
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Speaker 5: years in the league, his passer rating was seventy eight,

522
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Speaker 5: which was the worst in the league over that span

523
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Speaker 5: minimum twelve hundred pass attempts. No other quarterback in NFL

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Speaker 5: history has had the league's worst rating over his first

525
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Speaker 5: six years and then later started a Super Bowl in

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Speaker 5: his career, so he is the first ever USC quarterback

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Speaker 5: to start a Super Bowl game tomorrow. North Carolina hadn't

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Speaker 5: had one apparently either until Drake Mady tomorrow. So now

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Speaker 5: over fifty colleges fifty one different colleges have had a

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Speaker 5: quarterback start a Super Bowl as of tomorrow, based on

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Speaker 5: where a player finished his college career. It's notable on

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Speaker 5: the USC point because they have had the most Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl players period seventy and yet no starting quarterback from

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Speaker 5: SC until tomorrow. By the way, cal has the most

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Speaker 5: different starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Which is in another crazy yeah.

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Speaker 5: Jared Goff, Aaron Rodgers, Craig Morton, Joe Capp, four of

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Speaker 5: them to the NFL News of the Day. Falcons first

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Speaker 5: round pass rusher James Pierce was arrested after a domestic

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Speaker 5: dispute in Florida. The Dallas Cowboys are expected to franchise

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Speaker 5: tag wide receiver George Pickens. The Falcons are due to

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Speaker 5: quarterback Kirk Cousins before the new league year starts next month.

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Speaker 5: The Jets hired Seth Ryan as passing game coordinator. The

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Speaker 5: NHL is off for the Olympic break. US women's hockey

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Speaker 5: beat Finland five nothing at the game's The men's tournaments

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Speaker 5: in Italy starts Wednesday. As for the NBA, late night

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Speaker 5: action included the Lakers beating Golden State one oh five

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Speaker 5: ninety nine. Luka Doncic and Steph Curry were each out

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Speaker 5: due to injuries. Lebron James of LA twenty points, ten assists,

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Speaker 5: seven turnovers in the final seconds at Phoenix, Philadelphia, holding

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Speaker 5: on to a lead over the Suns one oh seven

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Speaker 5: to one oh three. As Joel and beat has thirty

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Speaker 5: three points in thirty three minutes. Memphis leads seventy eight

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Speaker 5: seventy five at Portland mid third quarter. Portland just ended

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Speaker 5: a six game losing streak last night. Portland's Stannyavdiez out

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Speaker 5: again with a strained back, and James Harden Is on

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Speaker 5: the court for the Cleveland Cavaliers tonight at Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: The Kings have lost.

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Speaker 5: Eleven in a row and they are beating Cleveland right

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Speaker 5: now eighty six.

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Speaker 2: It's Haarted effect there, there you go.

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Speaker 5: He had seven assists eight points in this game for

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Speaker 5: Cleveland so far. And then there's the night Nikola jokicch head.

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Speaker 5: He was questionable for the game. He played triple double

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Speaker 5: twenty two points, fourteen rebounds, seventeen assists. Denver dominated the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter to win at Chicago one thirty six to

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Speaker 5: one to twenty victories for Houston and San Antonio. Charlotte

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Speaker 5: won its ninth straight game, and in college hoops Top

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Speaker 5: ten matchup on Fox TV, went overtime at Michigan State

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Speaker 5: and the Spartans beat Illinois eighty five eighty two. In

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Speaker 5: ot fourteenth trying, North Carolina beat Number four Dukes seventy

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Speaker 5: one sixty eight on a last second three pointer. Kentucky

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Speaker 5: edge number twenty five Tennessee seventy four to seventy one.

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Speaker 5: Oklahoma won at number fifteen Vanderbilt ninety two to ninety one.

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Speaker 5: And congrats to the women's team at New York University.

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Speaker 5: They've tied the Division III record with their eighty first

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Speaker 5: consecutive victory, including nineteen and oh this season. They won

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Speaker 5: last night by eight over Case Western, which is actually

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Speaker 5: one of the rare times anyone's come close to them.

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Speaker 5: Apparently there have only been three games in the entire

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Speaker 5: eighty one streak where opponents have come within single digits.

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Speaker 5: They can break the Division three mark with a Sunday

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Speaker 5: game at Carnegie Mellon.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air tors Jays Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: talk the Patriots side of things with an interesting conversation

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Speaker 2: about really not just one, but two guys who will

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Speaker 2: not see the field on Sunday. Discuss that next Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Trady.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin

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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Jam I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you a couple questions from the Patriots

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Speaker 2: side of things. First of all, Uh, Tom Brady earlier

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Speaker 2: this week was asked about the Super Bowl, had an

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Speaker 2: interesting comment. I can't seem to find it right now,

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Speaker 2: but he basically said I have no dog in the fight.

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Speaker 2: Followed it up on Instagram last night by saying, no,

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Speaker 2: I got your back RKK. That is a reference to

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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft. Get that seventh ring so we can match

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Speaker 2: with a picture of Robert Craft. Did you have a

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Speaker 2: problem with Tom Brady not outwardly saying that he was

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Speaker 2: rooting for the New England Patriots to start the week.

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Speaker 3: Not really. I mean I think that shows there's I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's not much else going on when it comes to

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is just like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: of course, he's probably going for the Patriots, but it's

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Speaker 3: kind of it just doesn't really matter to me all

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Speaker 3: that much. Maybe you roll your eyes for about five seconds,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't. Some people really seem like they needed

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Speaker 3: to have a take about this. I don't have some

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Speaker 3: kind of like a gigantic extreme take. I assume that

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady still likes the Patriots organization and would pull

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Speaker 3: for them against a team he has no tie in

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Speaker 3: with whatsoever in the Seattle in the Seattle Seahawks. But

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Speaker 3: perhaps Brady's also trying to look at it from the

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Speaker 3: broadcaster perspective, and he's trying not to be quite as

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Speaker 3: in the tank or anything like that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: the reasoning behind it. I just kind of thought, Okay, whatever,

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Speaker 3: he's going for the Patriots, whatever he says, I don't

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Speaker 3: really buy into. But I also don't think it's something

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Speaker 3: we're like, oh, I can't believe that he said. I

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Speaker 3: can't get there.

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Speaker 2: So I'm actually kind of in the same boat now.

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Speaker 2: I do think listen, I think it's easy to pull

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Speaker 2: the I'm the unbiased reporter and I work for Fox now,

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Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I don't know. I guess you know,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't one that I was like super opinionated about either,

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Speaker 2: like I do wonder in hindsight though, like him not

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Speaker 2: doing it if he actually does, like genuinely still hold

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Speaker 2: a grudge against the organization, it feels weird, clearly. You know, listen,

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Speaker 2: it's old water. You know, it's water under the bridge.

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Speaker 2: Now excuse me. But he obviously won the breakup with

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, and I think virtually everybody would agree who

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Speaker 2: played the bigger role in that dynasty, and if they don't,

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Speaker 2: Brady still has the one up as far as Super

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Speaker 2: Bowls without Belichick. So I don't know why he would

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Speaker 2: feel the need to why he would feel the need

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Speaker 2: to have it out for the Patriots organization, But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was one I just couldn't get too fired up about.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady earlier in the week saying essentially, I have

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Speaker 2: no dog in the fight, then defended it by or

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Speaker 2: not defended it, but semi backtracked by posting a picture

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Speaker 2: with Robert Craft on social media on Sunday or Saturday

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Speaker 2: night in the lead up to the game. Really quickly,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Robert Craft. In half a second.

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Speaker 2: Before we do, I have to mention you ever wiped

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Speaker 2: with a piece of try toilet paper and wondered, is

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Speaker 2: this as good as it gets? It's not switched to

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Speaker 2: life changing wet extra large flushable dude wipes because wetter

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Speaker 2: just Clean's better available at Amazon and at major retailers nationwide.

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Speaker 2: Dude wipes best clean pants down. All right, So Brady

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Speaker 2: obviously posting a picture with Robert Craft, you know, go

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Speaker 2: get him, go get number seven match with me. I

663
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Speaker 2: was thinking about this in the lead up to the game, Jmart.

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously. The one of the other big stories

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Speaker 2: this week was that Robert Craft joins his former head

666
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Speaker 2: coach Bill Belichick in not making the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: this year, and I was thinking about this, is that

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Speaker 2: listen again, It's so there's so much semantics involved with

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and how many guys are contributors

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Speaker 2: and this and that whatever. I do think that as

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Speaker 2: time has gone on, we probably maybe haven't given enough

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Speaker 2: credit to Robert Kraft for this. Like it's always been

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Speaker 2: the who's more important? Brady your Belichick? Brady your Belichick,

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Speaker 2: But no, da da I bring it up because Robert

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Speaker 2: Craft was the owner before Bill Belichick got the job.

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Speaker 2: They made a Super Bowl with Bill Parcells, replaced Bill

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Speaker 2: Parcells with Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll people forget had and

678
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Speaker 2: he wasn't great, but he had a winning record, and

679
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: Bob Kraft decided to fire Robert Craft decided to fire him,

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Speaker 2: hires Bill Belichick, and then after Bill Belichick leaves, they're

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Speaker 2: back in a Super Bowl. And it's worth noting, by

682
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Speaker 2: the way, made a pretty unpopular decision to fire Gerrod

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Speaker 2: Mayo after one year as well, and so he's not

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Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. I do think he's probably

685
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Speaker 2: hasn't gotten enough credit for just not only the longevity,

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Speaker 2: but again just because of Belichick and Brady. Just feels

687
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Speaker 2: like he's probably gotten a little bit lost in all

688
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Speaker 2: of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: definitely from an owner perspective, he played a pivotal role.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's been discussion before about the

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Speaker 3: three of them with which piece of the pie each

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Speaker 3: one receives in terms of their role or their importance

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Speaker 3: to what New England was able to do with Kraft,

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Speaker 3: Brady and Belichick. I don't know that I would say

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Speaker 3: it's a bigger snub than Bill, but I guess it's

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Speaker 3: easier for us to see what Bill did than it

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Speaker 3: is to really fully understand what it took as an

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Speaker 3: owner to kind of build what Robert Kraft did and

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Speaker 3: even prior to Belichick being there and all of those things.

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Speaker 3: What I find most interesting is, and I'm not surprised

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Speaker 3: that it's happened, but I maybe surprises happened as soon

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Speaker 3: that we're already seeing that there may be rule changes

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Speaker 3: to the Hall of Fame voting going forward because of

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Speaker 3: how this has played out. And the Kansas City Star

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Speaker 3: reporters said, hey, I had to go for these seniors

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Speaker 3: players because it was their last chance. The guy in

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Speaker 3: charge to the voting was just like, well, you can't

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Speaker 3: do that. You have to pick the three most deserving.

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Speaker 3: It's not allowed to do that. It's like, you can't

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Speaker 3: determine what people are going to do if you don't

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Speaker 3: understand their reasoning. Like they can do that and not

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Speaker 3: announce it. And there could have been others who did

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Speaker 3: the same thing, but now they're like, you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: these ideas are these last chances. Maybe that's not a

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Speaker 3: great idea. It's like, yeah, no, it's not. It very

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Speaker 3: much is not a good idea. If somebody's a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer, then they're a Hall of Famer. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that there needs to be an expiration date on that.

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Speaker 3: They're probably not going to get enough votes if they

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Speaker 3: go too far past it, if they weren't ever close

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Speaker 3: or anything like that anyway, So I don't really understand

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Speaker 3: all of that kind of deal. But changes coming because

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Speaker 3: of the outcry from this shows what a debacle it was.

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Speaker 3: And to your point from last week, which I thought

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Speaker 3: was incredibly accurate, this is all we're gonna remember about

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Speaker 3: this Hall of Fame class yep. I mean there's some

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Speaker 3: guys that got in there very you know, first timers

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Speaker 3: and well deserving, but the fact that these guys are

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Speaker 3: out on the outside looking in one even though they're

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Speaker 3: gonna get in next year is kind of a it's

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Speaker 3: just a blight. It's just really really an unnecessary kind

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Speaker 3: of self owned by the NFL because they have bad

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Speaker 3: rules and allow this to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as far as the changes are concerned,

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Speaker 2: like probably justified, But I would counter by saying, one

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Speaker 2: it's funny, right because it's a chicken in the egg thing.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be quick because we got to get some

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Speaker 2: other stuff. But like this is why. By the way,

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Speaker 2: like sometimes with some of these votes, they don't want people,

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Speaker 2: you know, like the Heisman, it's famous or was famous

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Speaker 2: for a time that you were not supposed to share

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Speaker 2: who you voted for. But it's like, like like you

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Speaker 2: said last week, and it was a great point by you,

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Speaker 2: So if you're crediting me, I got to credit you

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Speaker 2: as well. The point you made about, hey, at least

747
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Speaker 2: we understand the logic even if we disagree with it.

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Speaker 2: And for people who don't remember, the Casey Star guy

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Speaker 2: was basically saying, hey, there's only so many spots for contributors.

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Speaker 2: There were a couple guys that weren't that We're going

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00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: to be off the ballot if I didn't vote for them.

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00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's it's a weird look. It's a

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Speaker 2: bad look. And you know, we talked about Belichick being

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Speaker 2: the greatest coach ever. I haven't taken the time to

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Speaker 2: think about if Robert Kraft is the best owner ever.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, neither is in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Both should and to the point that we both made.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to overshadow everything that has happened

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Speaker 2: in this Hall of Fame class, and so we'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens from there. Fox Sports Radio er Tords Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live. Yes, we are live, heading into midnight

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Speaker 2: Eastern time on the East Coast. We'll come back when

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Speaker 2: we do. As exciting as the Super Bowl is, NBA

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Speaker 2: trade deadline, Giannis is still there, Jah is still there,

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Speaker 2: James Harden is on the move. But does it matter.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our two towards mark. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios here at midnight Eastern Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: Sunday on the East Coast. If you're in the Central

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Speaker 2: Mountain or Pacific time zones, it's coming soon. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: We are now less than twenty four hours away from

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Speaker 2: kickoff Seahawks Patriots six point thirty Eastern time in Santa Clara, California.

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Speaker 2: Arnie Spanier Chris Plank will be on for the game.

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Speaker 2: Stave de Sager just give me a thumbs up. You'll

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Speaker 2: be with the fellows right to Sager will be with

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Speaker 2: Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier as well. Three thirty Pacific,

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Speaker 2: six thirty eastern kickoff in San Francisco or Santa Clair.

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Speaker 2: I guess is what they're calling Jay mar I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you this. For all of the excite of the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: it is also worth noting busy week in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: A lot of guys traded, couple noteworthy guys not traded.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into some of it here over these next

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes, because a very very very busy week

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. And let's be honest. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the guy the biggest name that was available did not move,

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Speaker 2: so that is Jiannas Antenna Kupo. And you know, we've

788
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Speaker 2: we like everybody else on this network has covered this story.

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Speaker 2: A guy that you know, listen, brought a championship to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: Incredible story and it just just hasn't worked out since then.

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Speaker 2: And it's been this weird thing where you could see

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Speaker 2: it going in the wrong direction. You know, Giannis has

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00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: kind of done this thing where you know, he's he's

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00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: made a couple of comments about you know, I'd have

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Speaker 2: to consider this point being he's never publicly asked for

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Speaker 2: a trade, and he's actually publicly said I'd ever will

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Speaker 2: ask for a trade because I love this city. It

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00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: means so much to me. You know. Saw a nice

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Speaker 2: statement that he put out, you know, in the lead

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Speaker 2: up to the trade deadline of if this happens, you know,

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Speaker 2: my father is buried here, this is where I became

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00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: a father myself, blah blah blah blah blah, essentially that

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00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: Milwaukee will always be home. Well, I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because busy week. But the big move that I think

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00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: we were all most intrigued by does not happen. Gianna

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00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Santana Coupo is still a Milwaukee Buck. The Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 2: very much out of the Eastern Conference playoff picture. He's

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee for at least six more months. Certainly sets

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Speaker 2: up an interesting off season for the Bucks in the

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Speaker 2: NBA as a whole. Are you surprised that he is

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Speaker 2: still a Buck?

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Speaker 3: Sort of? As we got closer to it, it started

813
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: to make more sense that it wasn't going to happen.

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00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: Maybe they didn't like what they were getting. It was

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Speaker 3: one story that just boggled my mind about And who

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00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: knows whether or not it's true. But Mike Dunlevy, the

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Speaker 3: general manager of the Warriors, coming out and saying that

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Speaker 3: Draymond Green was never really part of any trade talks anywhere.

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Speaker 3: The only the only interest was when people called them

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Speaker 3: looking for Draymond. And then he made the comment that

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Speaker 3: to acquire Jiannis, we would have had to include either

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Speaker 3: Draymond or Jimmy Butler in the deal. So you're telling me,

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Speaker 3: if you're Golden State, that you may have said no

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Speaker 3: on the Yannis deal because it would have cost you

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Speaker 3: Draymond Green. Like, that's the argument. Quick.

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Speaker 2: I think the Warriors like so one. I just don't

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Speaker 2: believe that too.

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Speaker 3: I don't either. That's why I'm saying, like, doesn't pass

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Speaker 3: the smell test.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't pass the smell test. You can't get you know,

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Speaker 2: you couldn't get anyone of value without trading Draymond or

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. But they kind of actually can't out pretty

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00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: early and said that they weren't trading Jimmy Butler, which

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Speaker 2: meant that they could only trade Draymond to get a

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Speaker 2: player of Jannis's calibert I'll just say this is why

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Speaker 2: cut you off, is because I know this was a

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Speaker 2: Yannis segment, and I promise we'll get back to him.

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Speaker 2: And I want to hear your thoughts. I think the

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Speaker 2: Warriors got to decide, like like, like, are we are

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00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: we trying? First of all, the Steph Clay Draymond era

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00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: is over right, so that's been over. So are we

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Speaker 2: trying to hold on to this thing that we had

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00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: like nine ten years ago or it's just it's just

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00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: this weird thing where it's like they want to hold

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Speaker 2: on to the previous era, but they want to still win,

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Speaker 2: and like to Steph's credit, he's still playing at a

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00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: really high level. It's just it's this weird place for them,

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00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: and I think, like I guess, what I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to say is like you have to decide, like

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00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: if you want Stephan Draymond to retire as Warriors, fine,

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00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: you're probably never I don't think probably you're never going

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00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: to compete for championship again. But it just feels like

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00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: they keep trying to extend this window for nostalgia purposes.

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00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: And at some point you gotta rip the band aid

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Speaker 2: off and just say, Draymond, you are who you are.

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00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: At this point, You're thirty four to thirty five, thirty

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00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: six years old, whatever you are, you gotta take a hike.

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00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: Steph is thirty seven himself, but again still playing at

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Speaker 2: a high level. I just are we holding out to

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Speaker 2: nostalgia or are we trying to win a championship with

861
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, who's still one of the best players in

862
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: the NBA. That's the only point of time.

863
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: I don't get it. No, yeah, I mean I don't

864
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: get it. I look, STEP's been banged upright, he didn't

865
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: play last night or I guess tonight, depending on where

866
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: you were in a country against the Lakers. But you

867
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: picked up Kristaps Porzengis. So you can't make the argument

868
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: that Jannis being kind of hurt this year is part

869
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: of this, because Kristaps Porzingis is always hurt, and so

870
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 3: you can't assume that you're gonna be able to have

871
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: him in the postseason. Uh consistently. He can be great

872
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: still when he's healthy, but that's just a rarity. It's

873
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: just not something that's been there for him most of

874
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: the time. So I look at all of that and

875
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: just I don't know what the Warriors are doing. But

876
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: back to Giannis, Yannis, he does have some control there

877
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: that seems apparent now he's got one more guaranteed year

878
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: and then like he's going to be able to kind

879
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: of dictate a little bit more after that. So maybe

880
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: it opens up more freedom for him if he sticks

881
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: around for a little while longer. But certainly at this point,

882
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: he's just a great player on a bad team that

883
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: has like no real reason to put forth maximum effort,

884
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: even though that he's not been a guy that's not

885
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: done that throughout his career, so you know, I don't

886
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: necessarily anticipate it, but it's just like a it's a

887
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: completely worthless situation, Like you have one of your stars

888
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: in the league on a franchise that's going absolutely nowhere

889
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: fast and seems to be going in the wrong direction

890
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: more more by the day. So I don't understand. I

891
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: think it's just it's just bad for the league at

892
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: this point. Like I wanted to see Yannis play his

893
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: whole career in Milwaukee, but I didn't want to see

894
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers end up there. I didn't want to see

895
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: a lot of the moves that they've made. They took

896
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: what should have been, you know, a really nice long

897
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: relationship and just kind of I don't know exactly what happened,

898
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: but chaos reigned, yeah, and broke that thing in half.

899
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt.

900
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: It's just no good man.

901
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: No, And some of it is on the honest, you know.

902
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's pushed for certain things, but no, I'm

903
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: just disappointed because you know, he's still to a degree,

904
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: I think he's still very much in his prime and

905
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: it's just wasted. I will say, I think it's kind

906
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: of an interesting, uh situation. As far as to your point,

907
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: I think this was part of the conversation of basically like, like,

908
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: I guess I was gonna say, like, it's just interesting

909
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: because the one year left on the contract makes it

910
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: so interesting. Of clearly, nobody is gonna trade for him

911
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: unless they they know that he's going to sign beyond

912
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: this year, you know what I'm saying. So like, I like,

913
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: that's the part that I think is weird to me,

914
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: is like I don't even know if I should be

915
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: excited about the possibility of a trade of a trade

916
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: during the offseason, because are you going to trade for

917
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: him without that guarantee? So I think that that's what

918
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: becomes interesting to me and I'll also say this about

919
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: Yiannis too. I think this all kind of made. First

920
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: of all, this made him look bad, jamrt did you

921
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: see this? Yesterday? Yannis signed on as an ambassador for Calshi.

922
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: So like it sounds like you know the story, I'll

923
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: explain it to the audience. But Calshie is what they

924
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 2: call a predictions market, which is essentially like the new

925
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 2: age of sports betting, in which you can any event

926
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: you can, you can basically bet it in real time. Right,

927
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: So it's not just the games points spreads what, but

928
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: it's is a player traded, it's you know, there's political stuff,

929
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: will this person be elected? Da da dada that, and

930
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: you're betting against basically whatever. And so I bring it

931
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 2: up because Jannis announces that he is now an investor

932
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: and owner in Calshi, which really bad. Look I feel like,

933
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: you know weird and I'll toss it over to you.

934
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: We have this situation where half of sport I don't

935
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: know about half, but a percentage of sports fans think

936
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: everything that they're watching is rigged anyway. And now you

937
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: have a guy who owns a stake in a company

938
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: where you can bet on is he traded, does he

939
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: win the MVP? How you know who does he get

940
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: traded to? Right? And so I already saw people yesterday like, oh,

941
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: he spent two weeks talking about you know, is this

942
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: the end? In Milwaukee they created a market where you

943
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: could bet on that, and then he decided a terrible Look,

944
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: the floor is yours eye on top of everything else.

945
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: That's just a really bad low.

946
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Look man, Cawshi polymarket, all this stuff, it's just it's

947
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 3: just bad news. Don't go lose your money there, people, please.

948
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 3: But more than anything, like, there are so many conflicts

949
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 3: of interest in the bets and the wagering that you

950
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: can place. There's so much insider stuff. There are so

951
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: many people that the temptation is gigantic here. And we're

952
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: getting to this micro level where we're trying to figure

953
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 3: out just how small, like how many details can we

954
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: bet on in individual events and of course well beyond

955
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: sports now into politics and all that. And look, there

956
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: are big time players on both sides of the political

957
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: aisle that are investors or actively involved or on the

958
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 3: board of these companies. It is astonishing. So for somebody

959
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: in sports when this whole gambling thing, I mean think

960
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: about what's going on right now with the the NBA scandal,

961
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 3: the point shaving and all that other kind of stuff,

962
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: and Gianni's Antetokumpo, one of your most marketable star is

963
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 3: one of the most famous players in your league over

964
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: the past like handful of years. This dude is going

965
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 3: to jump into bed where like even if he does

966
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: nothing wrong, it's still gonna feel like he's done something wrong. Yep.

967
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: And the fact that they can put up odds on

968
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: what teams are gonna acquire him and all this, like, dude, no,

969
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: absolutely one not. I don't know how you stop it,

970
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: but you need to stop it. And I don't even

971
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: mean honest. People that are close to Gianna should should

972
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: pull him back from this. You don't need this dog

973
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: Like you have a ton of money, you do not

974
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: need to go down this pathway. And if you're Adam Silver,

975
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: this should absolutely terrify you.

976
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so now that the you know, cat is

977
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: out of the bag. For lack of a better term,

978
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if Adam's can do something, but you know,

979
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: really quickly, first of all, sorry, I'm watching this BYU

980
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: Houston game looked like there was a near brawl, but

981
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: whatever there wasn't anyway. So look, I don't know if

982
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: there's anything that Adam Silver can do now. But one

983
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: for people who don't understand why this is a bad look,

984
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty obvious. But you know, even our

985
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: buddy Bernie Fratto, who I'm sure is listening, he'll explain

986
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: to you there's a reason that you can't in Vegas

987
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: or in any legal sports book bet on does a

988
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: guy get traded? Like, like, there are certain things you

989
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: can't bet on because in theory, there is inside information

990
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 2: that you could have that could you know, you could

991
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: sway the betting markets. So that is why you can't

992
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: bet on certain things in Vegas. It is also why

993
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: you know, the predictions markets are interesting, but also why

994
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: they're so vulnerable. And with the Yahnis Calshi stuff. I'll

995
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: just say this really quick, is like it does remind

996
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 2: me of this is very random. But remember that week

997
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: a few months back where like Lebron went on social

998
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: media and tease like the decision part two coming and

999
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: everyone was like, oh, is he gonna retire or is

1000
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 2: he gonna like what is this going on?

1001
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1002
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: And it was a Hennessy ad. It was like oh, i've,

1003
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: you know, I've, I've I'm taking my talents to Tennessee.

1004
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: And it's like, who in Lebron's camp thought this was

1005
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: a good idea? Like was the five hundred thousand or

1006
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: a million dollars or two million dollars really worth it

1007
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: for this? Just awful, awful optical look? And it's the

1008
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: same with you, honest, you honest. I don't have his

1009
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: net worth in front of me. It's easy to find

1010
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: he will make half a billion dollars easily playing basketball

1011
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 2: during his time. Is this He's part of.

1012
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: The ownership group of the Brewers, He's part of the

1013
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: ownership group in Nashville Soccer club. He's got like more

1014
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: money than he could ever spend. There is no reason

1015
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: whatsoever to tarnish your reputation by tying it to something

1016
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 3: like this, because to your point, and even if everything

1017
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 3: he does as a shareholder is completely above board, there's

1018
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a segment that's gonna side eye everything that

1019
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: happens that even looks like it could potentially have been bought.

1020
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so bad lookoverall for Jannis. And I think too.

1021
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 2: And this was the point I was gonna make earlier

1022
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: about just the trade stuff is. I think it's just

1023
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: a bad look for him in general of this whole.

1024
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: You know, some point you got to rip the band

1025
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: aid off and just accept that there's no clean way

1026
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: to do this. You're not gonna be the nice guy

1027
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: if you really want out. You know, it's almost what

1028
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: we just said about the Warriors half a second ago, like,

1029
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: if you want out, that's fine, and I think actually

1030
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people will understand. But your legacy will

1031
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: be tarnished. You will never be Colby, you will never

1032
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: be Dirk Nowitzky, you will never be whoever. Doesn't mean

1033
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: you're a bad person, but this whole I don't want

1034
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: to be the bad guy publicly saying I'm never gonna

1035
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: ask for a trade, But I also think it's on

1036
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: its course. It's like at some point you just gotta

1037
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: be the bad guy. And I think this is in

1038
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: many ways just making him look worse. And maybe they

1039
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: didn't trade him because they couldn't get a deal that

1040
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: made sense. But it's like, at some point, as be honest,

1041
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: you just have to be like, listen, I appreciate everything

1042
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 2: that's done. Yes, I do want to trade. I'll go

1043
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: to these places or you know whatever, and I only

1044
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 2: want what's best for the Bucks, and I hope they

1045
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: win a bunch of championships if they're not playing me.

1046
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: But I just think overall, it's just been a bad

1047
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: month for him. He's a guy who obviously has had

1048
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: a near sparkling reputation since he came into the NBA.

1049
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: And to be clear, as always, we're not saying he's

1050
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: a bad person, a bad husband, a bad father, or

1051
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: a bad son. But I just think the last week,

1052
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 2: starting with the trade deadlines, the Calshi stuff is different,

1053
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: but still part of the conversation, just been a bad

1054
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: look overall for a guy that really hasn't had too

1055
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: many of these in his career.

1056
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 3: Yep. I mean, there's just not much to add than that.

1057
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 3: I mean, that's one hundred percent right. So we're gonna

1058
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: talk about that Dallas Maverick straight.

1059
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Well, you know, I'll tell you this. There's

1060
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 2: some amazing revisionist history on the Dall Dallas Mavericks trade

1061
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: of oh Luca for Cooper Flag. No, that's not really

1062
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: how it worked out. We'll come back. We will talk

1063
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: about the guy that Luca was actually traded for. Your

1064
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: newest Washington Wizard. I think it's the first time in

1065
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: like six years we've done a Wizard segment here on

1066
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: the Tours and Martin Show. We'll come back. Wizards basketball, Baby,

1067
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: can you feel the fever? Fox Sports Radio Welcome back everybody,

1068
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Eric Tords Jason Martin broadcasting from the

1069
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,120
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Speaker 2: talk about the rest of a busy trade deadline in

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Speaker 2: the NBA, and just a moment before we do the

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Speaker 2: let's get it over to the news desk. Steve Disager.

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Speaker 2: What is trader?

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Speaker 5: We'll start with the NFL news from Florida tonight, involving

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Speaker 5: James Pierce to the Atlanta Falcons, who would have been

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Speaker 5: at the NFL Honors in the Bay Area this week

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Speaker 5: and was arrested in Florida today. He is the star

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Speaker 5: pass rusher of the Falcons. Finished top three in the

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Speaker 5: voting for Defensive Rookie of the Year this year, and

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Speaker 5: was arrested in Durrel, Florida, today after fleeing from the

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Speaker 5: scene of a domestic dispute. Fled, crashed, was taken into custody,

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Speaker 5: and the dispute took place between him. A first rounder

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00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 5: last year at LA Sparks forward Rakia Jackson. Pearce is

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Speaker 5: now facing multiple charges as a result of this incident,

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Speaker 5: including two counts of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon,

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Speaker 5: one count of aggravated stalking, and one count of fleeing

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 5: or eluding police with lightser siren. He was booked into

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Speaker 5: a correctional center today. This is the guy who was

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Speaker 5: taken number twenty six over all in the NFL Draft

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Speaker 5: this past year wound up with ten and a half sacks.

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Speaker 5: Fox's Bruce Feldman, who writes for The Athletic as well,

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Speaker 5: said tonight seeing the Pierce story reminded me of how

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Speaker 5: leary some NFL defensive line coaches were of him heading

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Speaker 5: into the draft last year. One said, quote that kid

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Speaker 5: is a first round talent, but the stuff you hear

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Speaker 5: about his maturity scares me.

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Speaker 3: End quote.

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Speaker 5: The Dallas Cowboys are expected to franchise tag wide receiver

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Speaker 5: George Pickens, worth about twenty eight million dollars for next season.

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Speaker 5: Players can be tagged between February seventeenth and March the third.

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Speaker 5: The Cowboys want to sign Pickens to a long term deal.

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00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 5: The Falcons are due to cut quarterback Kirk Cousins before

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Speaker 5: the new league year starts next month. Atlantic QB Michael

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Speaker 5: Pennix is recovering from a torn ACL Atlanta has a

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Speaker 5: new head coach and a new general manager. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 5: Jets hired Seth Ryan as passing game coordinator, son of

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Speaker 5: former Jets head coach Rex Ryan, so grandson of Buddy Ryan.

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Speaker 5: The Super Bowl is Sunday, Patriot It's against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 5: New England linebacker Robertspilang questionable with an ankle injury. In

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Speaker 5: college hoops on Fox TV tonight, number ten Michigan State

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Speaker 5: in overtime beat number five ranked Illinois eighty five eighty two.

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Speaker 5: Currently it's number eight Houston leading fifty nine fifty four

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Speaker 5: at sixteenth ranked BYU with eight minutes to go. Oklahoma

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Speaker 5: was a winner at number fifteen Vanderbilt ninety two to

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Speaker 5: ninety one. Seventh ranked Iowa State edged Baylor seventy two

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Speaker 5: sixty nine. Tonight, Kentucky came back to beat number twenty

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Speaker 5: five Tennessee seventy four to seventy one, and at fourteenth

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Speaker 5: rank North Carolina, the tar Heels were down to Duke

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Speaker 5: by nine, was seven minutes left and beat number four

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Speaker 5: Duke seventy one sixty eight, and the Heels had never

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Speaker 5: led until their last second three pointer won the game.

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Speaker 5: Duke was ten to Oher in conference. Everything is final

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Speaker 5: now In the NBA, two late games going to Cleveland

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Speaker 5: and to Portland. The Cleveland win was at Sacramento one

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Speaker 5: thirty two to one twenty six. James Harden, with late scoring,

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Speaker 5: wound up with twenty three points and eight assists for

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Speaker 5: the Cavaliers. Dementis s Bonis of the Kings was out

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Speaker 5: again with a bad back. Portland did not have Denny

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Speaker 5: Advia out again with a strained back, but the Blazers

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Speaker 5: had ended a six game losing streak on Friday and

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Speaker 5: got a home win against Memphis tonight, one twenty two

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Speaker 5: to one fifteen. By the way, Jaron Jackson ex of

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Speaker 5: Memphis had twenty two points in his Utah debut at Orlando.

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Speaker 5: The Magic beat Utah one twenty to one seventeen. J

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Speaker 5: As had twenty four turnovers, and Utah star Keyante George

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Speaker 5: left with another ankle injury. Wins for Houston and San Antonio.

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Speaker 5: Charlotte won it's ninth straight. Lakers beat Golden State one

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Speaker 5: oh five ninety nine. Luka Doncicic of LA out with

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Speaker 5: a strained hamstring. Lakers center DeAndre Ayton was out tonight

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Speaker 5: with a sorknee. Steph Curry of Golden State has no

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Speaker 5: timetable for a return with the sornee. He could miss

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Speaker 5: all of next week going into the All Star Break.

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Speaker 5: Chris tops perzingis now with Golden State is out through

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Speaker 5: the All Star break. Philhiladelphia and Denver got wins. That

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Speaker 5: Nuggets win was at Chicago because they outscored the Bulls

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Speaker 5: by twenty three in the fourth quarter, one thirty six

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Speaker 5: to one twenty the final Niccolio catch your triple double

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Speaker 5: twenty two points, fourteen rebounds, seventeen assists.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much. Steve de Sager

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Speaker 2: to Sega will be back in just a minute with

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Speaker 2: his extended update. This is Fox Sports Radio error towards

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Speaker 2: pants down. Jmart busy trade deadline. We talked about Giannis

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01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: not being traded. Uh, seems as though you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about the uh, the big Washington Wizards trade they have.

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Speaker 3: I just want to talk about Anthony Davis not being

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: a Dallas Maverick after I was told, I was reliable

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01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 3: informed by multiple personalities on the world's biggest sports network

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Speaker 3: that the Mavericks won that trade because they got Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nico Harrison put together a defensive juggernaut that played

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Speaker 2: a grand total of three quarters together. I saw that

1173
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: stat is that the Kyrie Irving Anthony Davis era lasted

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: a full three quarters of game action together. Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: on the move. He is a Washington Wizard, which is

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01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: crazy to say. And yeah, I mean listen, I think

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Speaker 2: that was the big story. I mean, living here in

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Speaker 2: LA it was certainly a topic. You know, Washington Wizards

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: don't come up very much. But Anthony Davis was traded

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01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 2: a little over a year ago for Luka Doncic. We

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Speaker 2: were told it was to put together the greatest defensive

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Speaker 2: team that's ever existed, because defense wins championships. You can't

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Speaker 2: win with Luca Anthony Davis on the move to Washington.

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Speaker 2: Take it wherever you want, Jamar.

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Speaker 3: So, it was never about whether Anthony Davis was a

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: great player. It was about how often he was going

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Speaker 3: to be able to play. That's always been I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Fame talent, there's no question about that,

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Speaker 3: but his availability has been suspect at best. And he

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Speaker 3: got hurt, like immediately in his first game, after looking

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: good in the first half, he got hurt. He's continued

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 3: to get hurt. It's unfortunate. Nobody wants to see it happen.

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Speaker 3: But this again is just like when this trade happened

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01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: during our program, we all thought it was fake. And

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Speaker 3: the main reason why is because we thought that the

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01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: news was fake. I should say we thought because it

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: didn't make any sense, because it's just like, well, what's

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Speaker 3: the equal value here? What are we doing? We weren't

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Speaker 3: even talking about this, and then it all ends up

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Speaker 3: happening and then we're told that, oh, actually, you know,

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Speaker 3: this was a fair deal, and all of this sudden

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Speaker 3: it was never a fair deal ever made any sense.

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Speaker 3: It still doesn't make any sense. There's no way to

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: actually rewrite this thing to where it does in any way,

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Speaker 3: shape or form. Nico Harrison is out of a job.

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01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: Maybe he got paid a lot prior to that for

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Speaker 3: making that move. I don't know who knows. It sure

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01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: felt like something went wrong, like maybe Calshi or Polymarket

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01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: was involved in that thing too, Like who else? Who else?

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: We got a shareholders out here is not good man,

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Speaker 3: Like this whole deal. I feel bad for Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 3: but the MAVs like immediately moving on from him. They're

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Speaker 3: trying to get multiple guys. They're trying to do something

1214
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: around Cooper Flag. But the revisionist history that you mentioned

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Speaker 3: before the break about how it's like this was Luka

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Speaker 3: Doncic for Cooper Flag. Dude. They had no chance at

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: getting the first pick in the draft, and they somehow

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01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: got the first pick in the draft. This was not

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: that unless you also want to say that that the

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01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: MAVs and the NBA were in collusion to make sure

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Speaker 3: that if they did this, they would end up with

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Speaker 3: the first Well, and if you want to make that argument,

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Speaker 3: I will listen to it. I'm not saying it happened.

1224
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying it's suspect.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me say this is that if you the

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Speaker 2: assumption that Cooper Flag was like a foregone conclusion, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't have the you know, I think it's relatively impossible.

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01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a way to do it. But the

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: MAVs record when Luka Docca the day Luka Doci got

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01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: traded and he had missed time whatever. But the insinuation

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: that Cooper Flag was a done deal, like and I know,

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 2: we're two people that believe once the the the you know,

1233
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: once a lottery actually happened, that maybe some stuff happened

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: in favor of the MAVs. But it's like, yeah, but

1235
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving, you know, unfortunately tears his acl whatever. So

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Speaker 2: the only point I'm trying to make it's revisions history.

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 2: But it just speaks to how bad the trade was

1238
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: in real time and how much worse that it is

1239
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: going forward and why frankly Nico Harrison is no longer

1240
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Speaker 2: the GM. It's just it's just embarrassing. It's just bad.

1241
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: It all worked out for the best because they did

1242
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: end up with Cooper Flag, but it does not change

1243
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: the fact that it was terrible in real time. Even worse.

1244
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 2: The stat that I think that I heard was that

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Speaker 2: Anthony Davis ended up playing twenty nine games for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks before being traded. Luka Doncic has thirty games

1247
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Speaker 2: of thirty or more points for the Los Angeles Lakers,

1248
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,479
Speaker 2: So that kind of shows you how that trade worked out.

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Speaker 2: Talk about another trade that happened over the course for

1250
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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. James Harden. Oh man, well,

1251
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Speaker 2: I'll say this. You know, Clippers had the best record

1252
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 2: from Christmas Day until the trade deadline. Didn't stop James

1253
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: Harden on working for a trade. He ends up with

1254
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Cavaliers. I mean, I got takes, but I'll

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Speaker 2: give you the floor.

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Speaker 3: J Martin, I mean, what else is new. This is

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01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 3: the reason why I said James Harden was gonna have

1258
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Speaker 3: to actually win a championship. And I've said this many times.

1259
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 3: I don't believe he can win a title. He's gonna

1260
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Speaker 3: have to win one to prove me wrong. It was

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: not about his talent. It was just there's something there

1262
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 3: that is just it's toxic in so many ways, and

1263
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 3: it's happened over and over and over and over again,

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Speaker 3: and now it happens here with the Clippers, who they

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: got what they bargained for. They got some good play

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Speaker 3: out of him from time to time, and they also

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: got what ended up happening here, which is him ending

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Speaker 3: up on another team. I mean, this is who the

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 3: guy has been throughout the brunt of his career, at

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Speaker 3: least as soon as he left Houston. This is all

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Speaker 3: that he has been. Doesn't mean that he can't play.

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Speaker 3: It just means you don't want that guy in your

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01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 3: locker room. You don't want that guy in your franchise

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01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 3: because it just never works out. Somebody that talented. That's

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Speaker 3: how you know that there's a problem there. It's like,

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01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,879
Speaker 3: as much talent as he has had to out many

1277
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: occasions in his career, it's just like, dude, there is

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 3: there is something seriously wrong here. And I will say this.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to change topics, but I'm going to

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 3: point this out, Let's do it. You mentioned to me

1281
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 3: that you know Windhorse made that comment about John Morant

1282
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 3: having negative trade values.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do that one so well.

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Speaker 3: I'm not really changing it. I'm just saying this. Consider

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01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: James Harden and how many times he's been traded and

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: how toxic he's been in all these situations, right, and

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01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: other players that have been toxic that have gotten traded

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 3: in all this How bad does it have to be

1289
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: that you have negative trade value while James Harden at

1290
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 3: his age is getting traded again because somebody still wants

1291
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: him to play basketball. Like, how far has John Moran fallen?

1292
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 3: And how much of a problem is he at this

1293
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 3: point that James Harden seems a very reasonable decision to make,

1294
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 3: But John Moran is something you absolutely can't do.

1295
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: So John Morant. For people who did not see this,

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: Brian Winhorse was asked about John Moran at the trade deadline.

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01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: Brian Windhorse said, quote, when I say he has no value,

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01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't even think that's accurate. I think he's got

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: what they call in the league quote negative trade value.

1300
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: And what that means is teams were not willing to

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01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: take Joha Morant unless the Grizzlies also attached draft compensation.

1302
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: In other words, you have to pay us to take him.

1303
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say about James Harden, and

1304
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: going back to James Harden for half a second, is

1305
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 2: for all the criticism of how he leaves places and

1306
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: certainly his playoff shortcomings, we also have to acknowledge that

1307
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: he basically always shows up to play in the regular

1308
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: season seventy nine regular season games last year, seventy two

1309
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 2: the season before, John Morant sitting at twenty games this year,

1310
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: fifty a year ago, nine in the twenty twenty three

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01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season. So on top of all the

1312
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: off the court stuff, you also have the fact that

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01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: he's very rarely available. Yes, and it just speaks to

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: the fact that, as you said, this was a guy

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01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,919
Speaker 2: and we all know the trajectory. But at one point

1316
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 2: we were talking about is he the next face of

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: the league, And now Brian Windhorse says, quote he has

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 2: negative trade value. You have to pay us with draft

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01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: capital to take him off of your hands.

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01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 3: Now go back. I do want to hear what you

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01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: have to say about Hart, and I wasn't trying to

1322
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: derail it. I was just suggesting that Harden gets moved around.

1323
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 3: All these guys get moved around. But Jamaran is like

1324
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 3: that much poison at this point.

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: So I don't really have any hard take on James Harden.

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: It's always funny, you know, catching Mansei in the studio.

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01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: She's a Clippers fan, and you know she was sad

1328
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: about it. She's like, we don't win anything anyway, He

1329
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: at least gave us a reason to watch the team.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's a fair take. Yeah.

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 2: And I sit here from the perspective of and I

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01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,919
Speaker 2: think it's just the way we consume sports ring culture.

1333
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: I always use the Herm Edwards quote, you play to

1334
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 2: win the game. And so I sit there as you

1335
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: can't win a championship with James Harden, And it's like

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 2: he was kind of in the perfect spot where nobody

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01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: actually expected him to in in Los Angeles as far

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01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: as the Clippers or as far as the Calves are concerned,

1339
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's one do we talk about this

1340
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: all the time, is like I get like I sort

1341
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: of get it from both sides. The Calves. First of all,

1342
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 2: the Calves are in fourth place. You know, they didn't

1343
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: feel like they were gonna win it with Darius Garland.

1344
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 2: They feel like they've they've rut, you know, they've they've

1345
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: they've they feel like they were going to you know,

1346
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: they had hit a wall with Darius Garland. They've had

1347
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 2: him for long enough, they haven't been able to win.

1348
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: They haven't been able to get over the hump. They

1349
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: have this short window with Donovan Mitchell. Let's try this

1350
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: James Harden thing. I guess just my opinion on it

1351
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: is your opinion, and anyone who follows the NBA that

1352
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have calves tinted glasses is I understand you felt

1353
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: like you needed to shake it up. I just have

1354
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: a fifteen year track record that when you have James

1355
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: Harden in the postseason, he is going to come up

1356
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 2: short in big moments and then to the point that

1357
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 2: we've made, at some point, it's going to end and

1358
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: it's going to end ugly, like it has everywhere. So

1359
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: it's one of those you know, I coined a term

1360
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: this week. It's kind of like a mad Libs trade.

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: I call it a mad Libs trade because just take

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 2: an aim, take a team fill in the blank. Oh,

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: and it's like it's cool to talk about It's great

1364
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: that it's giving us something to talk about a twelve

1365
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: forty one Eastern time on a Saturday in February. I

1366
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 2: just don't think that at twelve forty one Eastern time

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01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: on a Saturday in May, we're gonna be talking about

1368
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: the forty five point sixteen assist Game seven performance from

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01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: James Harden that set the Cleveland Cavaliers to the Eastern

1370
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: Conference Finals. You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yes, I just no one has made

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01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 3: their championship chances better by acquiring James Harden. It's true

1373
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 3: they may have made their like regular season more entertaining.

1374
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: And look again, he's gonna give you some good games

1375
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 3: along the way, There's no question about that. But like

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: what he does from a locker room perspective, like it

1377
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: just it hasn't worked. So why is the equation going

1378
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: to change? Now? You went from the number one seed

1379
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: last year in Cleveland an the East to being a

1380
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: number four you bring in James Harden. Now this just

1381
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: feels like that desperation play. And I can go ahead

1382
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: and tell you right now, I can right off the

1383
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: Calves out of the East in the second round at best.

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01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: Yep, No, and and I don't know, maybe that was

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: the ceiling with Darius Garland. Anyway, I just it doesn't

1386
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: change anything from my perspective, So I just, you know, whatever,

1387
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: you just want, you know, one deck chair with three

1388
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 2: legs for another. That's the only way to put it.

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a broken deck chair. And

1390
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: you can rearrange the deck chairs. Guess what the Titanic

1391
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: still The Titanic's already hit the iceberg and it's gonna

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: hit the bottom of the ocean at some point very soon.

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aer Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Studios. James Harden may never come through.

1395
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: When it matters, Steve de Sager always does his update.

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: Next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,719
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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,519
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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,320
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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,679
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1404
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,719
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1405
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. It is.

1406
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: It is nearly one am Eastern time, as we do

1407
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: every week around this time. Let's get it to the

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: news desk Steve de Sager with his extended update, Saga,

1409
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: take it away.

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 5: We'll get to Duke North Carolina in a moment. But

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 5: a word about the James Harden and Company victory tonight.

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 5: Talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers winning at Sacramento. Kings have

1413
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 5: lost twelve straight. Harden had twenty three points, Jared Allen

1414
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 5: had twenty nine points, ten rebounds on eleven of twelve

1415
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 5: from the floor, and Cleveland still has Donovan Mitchell, who

1416
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 5: had thirty five points in this game. The Cavs are

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01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 5: a top four team in the Eastern Conference behind number

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01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 5: one Detroit, number two Boston, and number three New York.

1419
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 5: And the Charlotte Hornets might be in the playoffs because

1420
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 5: they're up to number ten thanks to a nine game

1421
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 5: winning streak. Charlotte won at Atlanta tonight. By the way,

1422
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 5: Jonathan kaminga ex of Golden State, now with the Hawks

1423
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 5: out at least a week with a knee injury, but

1424
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 5: the Hornets, in winning these nine straight, have won all

1425
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 5: nine without a single point from a player age twenty

1426
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 5: eight or older. Statsink says that's the first time in

1427
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 5: an NBA history any teams won nine er row without

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 5: a single point from a player age twenty.

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01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: Eight or older.

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 5: Did you see the ending of North Carolina hosting Duke tonight?

1431
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 5: Tar Heels never led in the game, got a last

1432
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 5: second three pointer and won at seventy one sixty eight.

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01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 5: The fans stormed the court because they thought it literally

1434
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 5: was the last play of the game. Zeros on the

1435
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 5: clock and Duke coach Sean Shire afterwards said he had

1436
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 5: staff members that got punched in the face as North

1437
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 5: Carolina fans were storming the court to celebrate. They put

1438
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 5: about a half second back on the clock, and then

1439
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 5: the fans stormed the court again after Duke didn't get

1440
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 5: the shot from mid court. So at the end, apparently

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: there was an apology from the ADA North Carolina.

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01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: Real quick to Seger because I did send this to

1443
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 2: the guys before the show. I have not yet seen

1444
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: any footage. I'm still waiting, so I'm not accusing Duke

1445
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: of anything. But if you remember a few years ago,

1446
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 2: Kyle Philipowski. We had a national discourse on this for

1447
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: about four days. He was basically carried off on one

1448
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: ankle and then played the next game. So I'm not

1449
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 2: accusing anyone of lying the collision with wake Forest. Yes,

1450
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: what I am saying is I feel like there should

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01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: be video or maybe pictures. And by the way, if

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01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: somebody punched somebody, then yes, make sure that they never

1453
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: step foot in that arena again. But I guess what

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01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: I would say is I have been looking for video,

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01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: have not yet seen it, not saying it doesn't exist.

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01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 5: What you mentioned from a couple of years ago is

1457
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 5: when the Duke coach said, when are we in a

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 5: bang court storming?

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01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 2: And so today he said the opposite, which is it?

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 5: And so he was asked about that today he says,

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 5: I don't have an issue with court storming. I think

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01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 5: court storming is fine. Just shouldn't have people getting punched

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01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 5: in the face, shouldn't.

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01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 3: I agree with that. I think that we can get behind.

1465
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: I am anti people punching each other in the face

1466
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: unless it's in a ring sanctioned by a commission.

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01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: But I just can't believe we don't have a ton

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01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 3: of footage of it.

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: That's that's all I'm saying. I I you know when

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: a Duke coach, well, first of all, when a coach

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01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: accuses or says fan punch one of his staff members,

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01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: you know, the default is you want to see the

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: footage of it. So we're as of one fifty three

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01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: Eastern Times or twelve fifty three, we're still waiting for

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01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: and the due.

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01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 5: Coach that I had to push people away just trying

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01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 5: to protect our players. They won, they should celebrate, they

1478
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 5: want a court storm, court storm, but let's just let

1479
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 5: our guys get off safely.

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 3: That's it.

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 5: That's where I am with that end quote. So North

1482
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 5: Carolina beats number four ranked Duke and Michigan States in

1483
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 5: a top ten matchup that went overtime on Fox TV,

1484
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 5: beat Illinois eighty five eighty two. Well, I saw this

1485
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 5: from the TV ratings entering this Olympic Rake. The NHL

1486
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 5: regular season national TV ratings are actually.

1487
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: Up this year.

1488
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 5: Oh but it's still under a half million per game.

1489
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 5: That's up from last year. So no, I would say

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Speaker 5: overall that's not good news. Although if you can hold

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Speaker 5: more outdoor games in football stadiums, those do very well.

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Speaker 5: Like the one in Tampa recently. By the way, the

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Speaker 5: opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics this weekend apparently up

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01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 5: from four years ago twenty one million viewers, including three

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Speaker 5: million streaming. Now, the NHL is off for Olympic break

1496
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Speaker 5: and the men's hockey tournament starts Wednesday. In Italy, women's

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01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 5: hockey tournament is already underway. And can I say, and

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Speaker 5: I'm the person to speak on this because I watch

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01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 5: women's athletics, I enjoy I watch Women's World Cup, I

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01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 5: watched the US women's hockey today. There just aren't enough

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01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 5: good teams to field a tournament. And it's been about

1502
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 5: thirty years. Canada outshot Switzerland fifty five to six and

1503
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,919
Speaker 5: shut them out. US outshot Finland forty nine to eleven

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01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 5: and shut them out.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff to Segre. We appreciate you. We'll come back

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Speaker 2: when we do. Back to the Super Bowl. Our official picks,

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Speaker 2: Bad Bunny. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our three tours mark Fox Sports Radio.

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01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live one oh

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: one Eastern Time from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We're

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: taking up till two am. Eastern where Bernie Freda will

1513
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: follow us. Bernie is in Vegas. You know he will

1514
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: have so much good stuff on the big game. It is,

1515
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: of course Super Bowl Sunday on the East Coast and

1516
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: in the central time zones six thirty Eastern, three thirty Pacific.

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: Patriots Seahawks, Super Bowl sixty. Jmartin, Now that it's Super

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01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 2: Bowl Sunday, you know we open the show two hours ago.

1519
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 2: You said, Hey, I don't know, I'm into the game,

1520
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 2: and I don't know how excited I am. Well, now

1521
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: that it's super officially Super Bowl Sunday in the Central

1522
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: time zone, have the vibes across that central time zone

1523
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,919
Speaker 2: changed in the last two minutes and twenty eight seconds

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01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: since it became Super Bowl Sunday.

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Speaker 3: No, No, not really. I mean because I think the

1526
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 3: game is going to be a blowout. Said that off

1527
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 3: the top. You missed that podcast to Shoe, I hope

1528
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and I'm excited enough about watching a football

1529
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: game because I love watching football. That doesn't listen. That

1530
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: does not mean if you're out there with a ton

1531
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 3: of money that I want you to go invest in

1532
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 3: a spring football league and try to make me watch

1533
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: that Because that's not going to happen.

1534
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 2: Also, can I jump in on that too, Yes, the

1535
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: opposite is true as well, just because this isn't the

1536
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: sexiest super we're allowed to say that, right, because there's

1537
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, there's the people, Oh all football is good

1538
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: for if you if you just don't accept all football,

1539
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: then you're the worst person ever. And it's like, you know,

1540
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: it's like during bowl season, Uh, why are you complaining

1541
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: about more football? I'm not complaining. I'm just saying I'm

1542
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 2: not watching Georgia Southern versus Tulane on a Tuesday afternoon. Okay,

1543
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 2: if you want to watch it, that's fine. And if

1544
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 2: you want to pretend like Seahawks Patriots this time has

1545
01:22:55,640 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: the same hype as Mahomes versus Brady or or whatever,

1546
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: then that is your prerogative. But we don't have I

1547
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: don't know anyway. That's my only point, is what you're saying.

1548
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's the truth. Like there

1549
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: are Look, some matchups are more enticing, more interesting, more

1550
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 3: juicy than others. This one just doesn't have like that

1551
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 3: feel to me. If you're a Seahawks fan, obviously, if

1552
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 3: you are a Patriots fan, obviously, and look, we're all

1553
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: NFL fans here, and so I'm certainly I'm gonna be

1554
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: excited to sit down and watch the game because it's

1555
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: it's for all the marbles. It's the end of a

1556
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: long NFL season. We spent a lot of time talking

1557
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: about it on this show. We Love the National Football League.

1558
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean that this game is the greatest matchup that

1559
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 3: we could ever see. I hope this thing is an

1560
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 3: all time class that we're telling our kids and great

1561
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: kids about. I really do. I don't think it's going

1562
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,679
Speaker 3: to be. I think it's going to be a thirty

1563
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: point win for the Seahawks. And I have thought that

1564
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 3: now for two weeks since this game happened, and I

1565
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: kept hoping, you know, maybe maybe by the time we

1566
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: get to the day of the game, I will feel

1567
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 3: differently about this. But I just don't, and I could

1568
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 3: easily be wrong. I often am. Just like everybody else

1569
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 3: that you know predicts these things or watches sports for

1570
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: a living, we're wrong a lot. I just though these

1571
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 3: two teams, and I see one that's ready to win

1572
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 3: a super Bowl and one that's ahead of schedule, and

1573
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 3: that's very, very nice, and they've earned the right to

1574
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: be there. They deserve to be there, and I think

1575
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: they're gonna get selecked. And I've seen this movie before

1576
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 3: in Super Bowls, where one team is just clearly ready

1577
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 3: and mature in that moment, and the other one is

1578
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: just not quite aware of what they're in for. And

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01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 3: that's what I think we're gonna get. And I think

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01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: that that has added to my malaise about this Super

1581
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,560
Speaker 3: Bowl is just I don't think this is going to

1582
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 3: be a particularly compelling or competitive game by the second half.

1583
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: And that's just because of that. I can't get too

1584
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 3: high on this. I'm already making plans like what else

1585
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 3: can I watch in the second half? Like what do

1586
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 3: I need to go through the backlog and handle? Or

1587
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: do I have some things I need to read? Yes,

1588
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 3: I always have things I need to read. So am

1589
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 3: I gonna even have the TV on by the time

1590
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 3: we get to the fourth quarter? Right now? My bed

1591
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 3: is no? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean and listen, blots have happened? What

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01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: happened last year? Let me ask you this. You said

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 2: the fact that the Patriots are head of schedule, Obviously

1595
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: neither team has a bunch of dudes that have been here,

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Speaker 2: it is worth noting. You know, Mike Vrabel has plenty

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: of experience in Super Bowls. Do you think that is

1598
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: or could be a factor at all in this game?

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Speaker 2: The fact that they're coaching.

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Speaker 3: I think that helps. Yeah, I think it helps. That

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01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 3: was the next factor. I was gonna mention that, and

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01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: then I just just like, nah, I'm not But since

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01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 3: you asked yes about these And the other thing is

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01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: Vrabel is really good throughout his time here in Nashville

1605
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: and his time already in New England, but he hadn't

1606
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: had a lot of these moments in New England. Yet.

1607
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: He coaches really really well and has his guys ready

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01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: to play against the top opponents. When they are underdogs,

1609
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 3: when they are counted out, he shows up ready to play.

1610
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: He owned guys that are going to be in the

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01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame as quarterbacks with a guy that's not

1612
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: going to be in the Hall of Fame as his quarterback.

1613
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 3: He is good at this. And so that's the one

1614
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 3: pause I have is that Vrabel will have them ready

1615
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 3: to play. I just don't think they are. Like I

1616
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 3: look at that roster and I just see one team

1617
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 3: that is just fully composed and ready for this moment,

1618
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 3: and then I see a quarterback in his second year

1619
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: that's had a kind of a rickety postseason against good defenses,

1620
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 3: and he's going to see maybe the best defense in

1621
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 3: the league, if not right on par with what he's

1622
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: seen this last couple of weeks. The only difference is

1623
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 3: it's not going to be in a downpour and it's

1624
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 3: not going to be in a blizzard, so that might

1625
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 3: make it a little easier for them. I just I

1626
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: don't know that they're gonna be able to run the ball.

1627
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,520
Speaker 3: I saw what he did. I saw what that Seahawks

1628
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 3: defense did to the Rams. I saw what it did

1629
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 3: to the forty nine ers twice. Just talk me off

1630
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 3: the ledge and tell me this game is going to

1631
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 3: be close. I've seen a whole lot of predictions that

1632
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 3: this thing's going to be close. I just don't see it.

1633
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 3: I feel like the Seahawks are the far better team.

1634
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 3: I see a four and a half spread. I am

1635
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,959
Speaker 3: morally and everything else you could possibly be against gambling,

1636
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: but man, that's an easy bet to place. I feel

1637
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: like they are going to crush that thing. Like again,

1638
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: I think this is a thirty point game. Waiting thirty

1639
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 3: point games a lot.

1640
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: I'll say, is I think you can look at this

1641
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: variable one of two ways is that the Patriots defense

1642
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 2: has stepped up. Now you can look at that and

1643
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 2: say the offense hasn't been that great. Uh, you know,

1644
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,959
Speaker 2: but in the game against Houston, obviously they forced five turnovers.

1645
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: Now they had three of their own in the game

1646
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 2: against the Chargers early in the playoffs, held them to

1647
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 2: three points. Now the Broncos game between the backup quarterback

1648
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: who had not taken a had not thrown a past

1649
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 2: this season, and the blizzard that came in the second half,

1650
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 2: I don't know how much credit you can really give

1651
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: to the defense. But you know, I think there's a

1652
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: world where and we talked about it in an Hour

1653
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 2: one if you missed it, where if Sam Donald is terrible,

1654
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: then you know or if the you know, whether Sam

1655
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Donald's terrible or the Patriots defense is awesome, you want

1656
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: to give him credit. But then I think the there's

1657
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: also the counter to that as well, which is that

1658
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: the defense has carried the offense. And if the defense

1659
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: isn't great, or if Sam Donald is really good, and

1660
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: to your point, the Seahawks are just so much more

1661
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: battle tested, uh, last five or six weeks to you know,

1662
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 2: five or six weeks including the regular season, two wins

1663
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 2: over the forty nine ers, including one on the road,

1664
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 2: two wins over the Rams, win at Carolina. Carolina, of

1665
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: course was a playoff team. There's just no doubt that

1666
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 2: they are more battle tested. And so I think that

1667
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: just becomes the question of is that the defense has

1668
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: carried them. But if the defense is only okay, can

1669
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: the offense elevate? And that, to me is where the

1670
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 2: issue comes in, is that if the defense can't force

1671
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 2: multiple turnovers. Obviously they had a pick six against the

1672
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: against the Houston Texans a few weeks ago, I just

1673
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: don't know if if the offense can generate enough that

1674
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: that's where the concern comes in for me, is I

1675
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: just don't think the offense can generate enough.

1676
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I mean again, they couldn't score against Houston,

1677
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: they couldn't score against Denver. Didn't move the ball well

1678
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 3: and Drake May was fumbling left and right. That was

1679
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: the other thing is he couldn't hold onto the ball.

1680
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they have enough weapons offensively to scare

1681
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 3: the secondary of Seattle, And I'm not sold that Stevenson

1682
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 3: and Henderson are going to have a whole lot of

1683
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 3: room to run, especially if they get after the quarterback

1684
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 3: early and make that thing very uncomfortable. So, like I

1685
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 3: just I feel like offensively, the Seahawks have the advantage.

1686
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 3: I feel like defensively the Seahawks have the advantage. I

1687
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 3: feel like maturity wise, the Seahawks have the advantage. They

1688
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 3: have guys that have been in the league a little

1689
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 3: bit longer at key positions. I think they are more

1690
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 3: complete on defense. I think coachings will watch. I think

1691
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 3: they're both excellently coach football teams. And look McDaniels being

1692
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,440
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator, that's a positive because I mean he's

1693
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 3: dialed up really good stuff and used Drake May effectively.

1694
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 3: I just think this is a wall they're not ready

1695
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 3: to climb yet. And I'm not gonna say they're gonna

1696
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 3: get back because it's going to be really hard for

1697
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 3: them to get back. But there's still a lot to

1698
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: look forward to for this team going forward. I think

1699
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Speaker 3: this is a step, but I also think this is

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01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 3: where they're gonna get beat down. Like I really do.

1701
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 3: I just have felt that way this entire time since

1702
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: this matchup. Hit and nothing has been able to detract

1703
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 3: me from that that sometimes this is a step in

1704
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 3: the maturation process for a team, is you get absolutely waxed,

1705
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: just get mollywhopped, and then you come back potentially stronger

1706
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 3: on the other side. And maybe they will, right, but

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01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 3: you look at a team you talk about battle tested Seahawks,

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01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 3: battle tested, while the Patriots were in one of the

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01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: worst divisions in football. It's just and the NFC honestly

1710
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 3: ended up being much more just competitive in terms of

1711
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 3: high end football that was being played on a week

1712
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 3: to week basis than what we ended up seeing in

1713
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 3: kind of a weird year for the AFC. Like all

1714
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 3: of it just tells me the AFC was a weaker

1715
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: conference and the NFC is gonna just absolutely dominate this

1716
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

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01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,719
Speaker 2: The amazing stat that I heard in the commercial break,

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01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if everyone in America can hear it,

1719
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,839
Speaker 2: depending on how the commercial schedule works, but Jason Smith

1720
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: on the on his show Jason Smith and Mike Harmon

1721
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 2: referenced that eleven of the patriots fourteen wins were against

1722
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: coaches that were eventually fired this year. So wow, that

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01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: tells you something about about what happened there. Let's see here.

1724
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot, dude, his entire their entire division

1725
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 3: was fired.

1726
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Now it's true. Well not not Aaron.

1727
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Aaron is still there.

1728
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 2: By the way, I must have misheard because it's yeah,

1729
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: it's not eleven. It's a lot. It's not it's it's

1730
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot. It's a lot, indible. Let me see here.

1731
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: I'll do this really quick. By the way, they did

1732
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: have a loss to the Raiders, who fired their head coach.

1733
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: So two to the Dolls. So the Raiders, two to

1734
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the Steelers two against the Bills. Well, one win,

1735
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: one loss against the Bills, Titans, Browns, Falcons, Giants. It's

1736
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: a lot. Rave. They also played the Ravens. So maybe

1737
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 2: i'll do this during the commercial break instead of being

1738
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: a bad host on air. It looks like about eight

1739
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 2: to nine easily. Let me see if I can do

1740
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: this really quick. Of their seventeen regular season games, I'll

1741
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 2: just say, forget wins or losses one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

1742
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 2: This is awful radio. I know eight, nine, ten, eleven

1743
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 2: of their games total were against teams that fired their

1744
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: head coaches, which is still an astronomical number in a

1745
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 2: seventeen game regular season. So Fox Sports Radio out, yeah yeah,

1746
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 2: two by the way, two losses to teams that fired

1747
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 2: their coaches, the Raiders in Week one. What a result

1748
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 2: that was. And obviously they did lose to the Buffalo

1749
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 2: Bills at one point as well. So Fox Sports Radio

1750
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 2: air toors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1751
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Tell you what, j mart Since we already

1752
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,880
Speaker 2: basically have made our picks, well, come back, might as

1753
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: well just talk about the conversation that people be talking

1754
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 2: about during the game after the game got takes on

1755
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl halftime. We do come back and discuss

1756
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 2: it next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

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01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 2: Radio Aer Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox

1758
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Paopall you ever wiped with a piece

1759
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: of dry toilet paper and wondered, is this as good

1760
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01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Available at Amazon and an all major retailers nationwide. Dude

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01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Wipes best clean pants down, j Martin, We'll get to

1764
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: the conversation about the Super Bowl halftime show in just

1765
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 2: a second. But to Sager, it's got a long day tomorrow.

1766
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: Let's get you out of here early. To Sager, because

1767
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't think there's very much still going on in

1768
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 2: the world of sports at times.

1769
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 5: Hope we'll get to the Lake College hoops in a moment.

1770
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 5: But as we get to the Super Bowl tomorrow, Seahawks

1771
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 5: against New England, could I just say out loud, say

1772
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 5: it out loud. We have two superb punt returners in

1773
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 5: this game too. There has never been a punt return

1774
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 5: for a touchdown in the history of the Super Bowl. Wow,

1775
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 5: you know how many touchdowns have been scored? Someone looked

1776
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 5: it up. Three hundred and twenty five touchdowns in super

1777
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 5: Bowl history, not one from a punt return. And in fact,

1778
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 5: in Super Bowl history there have been over two hundred

1779
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 5: and fifty punt returns, just none to the house. There

1780
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 5: have been ten kick returns for scores apparently in Super

1781
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 5: Bowl history, about one hundred rushing touchdowns, almost two hundred

1782
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 5: passing touchdowns, no punt return td So we shall see.

1783
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 5: And then also stat saying points out that the Patriots

1784
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 5: in their franchise history, they've scored at least ten points

1785
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 5: in each of their last forty six playoff games. The

1786
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 5: Seahawks have done so in every postseason game they've ever played,

1787
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 5: thirty eight straight. Those are the two longest streaks of

1788
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 5: ten point playoff games in NFL history. Can this great

1789
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 5: Seattle defense, which was the best scoring defense in the

1790
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 5: NFL this year, hold New England to single digits? Patriots

1791
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,839
Speaker 5: are coming off a ten to seven win at Denver

1792
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 5: for the AFC title. And remember their wild card run, Well,

1793
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 5: it started with a game that was nine to three

1794
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 5: in the fourth.

1795
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:16,639
Speaker 2: Quarter at home against the Churchers.

1796
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 5: So standing tuned, staying tuned, I should say, standing by

1797
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 5: for those two things.

1798
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: Let's get to the college hoops. Number eight.

1799
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 5: Houston wins the late game at number sixteen BYU seventy

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01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 5: seven sixty six seventh ranked Iowa State edge Baylor. Oklahoma

1801
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 5: upset Vanderbilt. Kentucky came back to beat Tennessee. Michigan won

1802
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 5: its top ten matchup in overtime against Illinois eighty five

1803
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 5: eighty two. North Carolina was down by nine, was seven

1804
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 5: minutes left and still beat Duke on a last second

1805
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 5: three pointer. Tar Heels had never led until that shot.

1806
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 5: Seventy one sixty eight. Duke had been ten to oher

1807
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 5: in conference. The NBA will have the Shooting Stars competition

1808
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 5: at All Stars Saturday, which is next weekend, first time

1809
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 5: they've headed in over a decade. Fourteen teams three people

1810
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 5: each competing. Jalen Durham of the Pistons will miss the

1811
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 5: Slam Dunk contest with a knee injury. He is replaced

1812
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 5: by Orlando rookie Jace richardson the NBA All Star Game

1813
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 5: a week from Sunday at the LA Clippers Arena. James Harden,

1814
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 5: ex clipper for the Cavaliers, Tonight ad twenty three points

1815
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,799
Speaker 5: eight assists in a Cleveland win at Sacramento one thirty

1816
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 5: two to one. Twenty six. Kings have lost twelve in

1817
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 5: a row. Portland had ended a six game losing streak

1818
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 5: last night. They won at home tonight against Memphis one

1819
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 5: twenty two to one. Fifteen Blazers outscored him by fifteen

1820
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter. Denver outscored the Bulls in Chicago

1821
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 5: in the fourth quarter by twenty three, beat Chicago one

1822
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 5: thirty six to one. Twenty Nicoli deal Kitch a triple

1823
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 5: double twenty two points fourteen rebounds seventeen assists. Peyton Watson

1824
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 5: of the Nuggets out at least a month with strain hamstring.

1825
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 5: Cameron Johnson did return. Lakers beat Golden State, but Steph

1826
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,520
Speaker 5: Curry and Luka Doncic were each out with injuries. Philadelphia

1827
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 5: had Joel em beat on the court and one at

1828
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 5: Phoenix one oh nine, one oh three and beat in

1829
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 5: thirty three minutes at thirty three points. Charlotte won its

1830
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 5: ninth straight game, won twenty six one nineteen at Atlanta,

1831
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 5: victories for Orlando and Brooklyn. San Antonio Stefan Castle with

1832
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 5: a triple double, including forty points in a win over

1833
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 5: Dallas one thirty eight one twenty five. MAVs have lost

1834
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 5: seven straight and Houston won at Oklahoma City today one twelve,

1835
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,679
Speaker 5: one oh six. Alprin Schengoon a triple double. The NHL

1836
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 5: is off for Olympic break. The men's hockey tournament starts

1837
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 5: Wednesday in Italy. US women's hockey beat Finland five nothing

1838
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,879
Speaker 5: today to go to two and zero. The US increased

1839
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,480
Speaker 5: its lead in team figure skating going into the Sunday finale.

1840
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 5: USA curling was upset by South Korean mixed doubles. Host

1841
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 5: Italy won gold in women's speed skating. American teenager Ali

1842
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 5: Martin finished fourth in snowboarding's Big Air Final women's downhill

1843
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 5: early Sunday, our time, Italy. The hosts took silver and

1844
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 5: bronze in the men's downhill. Atlanta Falcons first round pass

1845
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,639
Speaker 5: rusher Ja James Pierce was arrested after a domestic dispute

1846
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 5: in Florida. Falcons are due to cut quarterback Kirk Cousins

1847
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 5: before the new league year starts next month. Dallas is

1848
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 5: expected to franchise tag wide receiver George Pickens. Hideki Matsuyama

1849
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 5: leads the Phoenix opened by one stroke. Former Kansas City

1850
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 5: Royals outfielder Terrence Gore died after surgery at the age

1851
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 5: of thirty four. In only one hundred and twelve career

1852
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 5: Major league games, he had forty three stolen bases had

1853
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 5: over three hundred steals in the minors. A reminder, NASCAR's

1854
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 5: dual races at Daytona our Thursday night on FS one,

1855
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 5: and pitchers and catchers report to spring training next week.

1856
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 5: The first full squad workouts start a week from Sunday.

1857
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 2: Back to you That's awful with Terrence Score. By the way,

1858
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a downer. I saw that

1859
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 2: he passed. I did not know the details just reading now,

1860
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: So rest in peace, Terrence Score, thanks for letting us

1861
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 2: know about that. Di Seger. Fox Sports Radio ra Tords

1862
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,560
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1863
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: As we get set to go off and thirty three minutes,

1864
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 2: make sure to download the podcast. If you've missed any

1865
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 2: of today's show, you're gonna want to catch the podcast.

1866
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

1867
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 2: and the show will be up as soon as we

1868
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 2: get off air again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1869
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and you'll find today's show right

1870
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: after we get off air. All right, Ja mart So

1871
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: we've given our opinions on the big Game. You like

1872
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 2: a thirty plus point Seattle win. I don't know if

1873
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm quite there, but I feel confident right now, feel

1874
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, I think that the Seahawks are gonna win comfortably.

1875
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: Let's pivot to what has certainly become a touchstone conversation

1876
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 2: in this Super Bowl and heading into the Super Bowl.

1877
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: That's a Super Bowl halftime show. Bad Bunny is set

1878
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 2: to perform. And let me just kind of layout why

1879
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 2: if you want to use the word controversial, I'll just

1880
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: I'll leave it up to people if they want, if

1881
01:40:55,760 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 2: they feel that it's controversial. But bad Bunny from Puerto Rico. Oh,

1882
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 2: of course he is a US citizen, for any confusion,

1883
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: But he's been very outspoken about some of the political

1884
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 2: environment here in the United States, and so I think

1885
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 2: there was some frustration with him being named the Super

1886
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 2: Bowl halftime performer. I bring it up because there is

1887
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: set to be an alternative broadcast featuring Kid Rock. It

1888
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 2: has certainly become a conversation in the larger world of sports.

1889
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 2: And I'll just say this. One, we're talking about this

1890
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,240
Speaker 2: because it does have to do with the Super Bowl.

1891
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: And two, you know, I don't think a lot of

1892
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 2: and then this is no disrespect to any of our

1893
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 2: colleagues or anybody else in the media, but I don't

1894
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: think a lot of people have necessarily talked about this

1895
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 2: or at least presented both sides of this conversation. And

1896
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: so you know, I got thoughts, but I want to

1897
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 2: tee you up first as to your expectations, thoughts or

1898
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 2: whatever you feel about this. Super Bowl halftime show heading

1899
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: into Super Bowl sixty on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So obviously the NFL is trying to get international, and

1901
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 3: Bad has been a big time international star for years.

1902
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 3: You know, he actually was somebody I was kind of

1903
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 3: unfamiliar with until he did some work with WWE a

1904
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and actually was very respectable in

1905
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 3: the way that he went about it. He clearly was

1906
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 3: a fan, he clearly cared, and it did some really

1907
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:22,639
Speaker 3: good work. Like he didn't just show up and cash

1908
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,600
Speaker 3: and check or show up and I'm bad Bunny and

1909
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 3: look at me. It was it was. It was good.

1910
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 3: And so you know, I wanted to sample into his

1911
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 3: music a little bit. Of course, I don't speak the

1912
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 3: language particularly well, and so that creates a barrier for

1913
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 3: me outside of just whatever the beat is more than

1914
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 3: anything else. And then yes, over the last year or so,

1915
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,640
Speaker 3: I think he's grown increasingly political in some of his

1916
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 3: statements and things like that, and he's done some other

1917
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,720
Speaker 3: stuff like wearing a dress and some of these kinds

1918
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: of things. So I mean, there's there's a lot there

1919
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 3: in terms of what I expect him to do. I

1920
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 3: hope it's not much. Maybe he's gonna take a shot

1921
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 3: at what's happened in Minneapolis and all of those kinds

1922
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 3: of things. I don't know, right, maybe he's not. Maybe

1923
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 3: he's just going to put on a performance and let

1924
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 3: that stand and make his comments elsewhere. He made comments

1925
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 3: at the Grammys, which then lead you to think that

1926
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:26,639
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna do more. I said this to you

1927
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 3: before the show, when I said, you know, we don't

1928
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 3: have to talk about this, but we certainly can. I

1929
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 3: am more like disappointed, honestly that Green Day is going

1930
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 3: to perform than I am Bad Bunny. Like if you

1931
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 3: have an issue with Bad Bunny, and I'm not thrilled

1932
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 3: with what he's had to say about the country, and

1933
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 3: I just wish the super Bowl wasn't a time for

1934
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 3: that kind of discourse to be part of it. But

1935
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 3: I mean Green Day, and I won't say all of them,

1936
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 3: but I know that Billy Joe Armstrong is not a

1937
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 3: fan of this country at all and has been very

1938
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 3: open that where I'm missing, they're doing something on the show.

1939
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what it is, but it's more

1940
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 3: or less it's like now. The decision to put Bad

1941
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Bunny on came before some of the things that he

1942
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 3: has said since that point in time, sure as well.

1943
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 3: So I mean there's that that's out there as well.

1944
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,520
Speaker 3: I just the Super Bowl doesn't need to be about ideology.

1945
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 3: Sports needs to be an escape. It does, and in

1946
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 3: this case, this is going to get some play. If

1947
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 3: there's anything that happens during this halftime or whatever. I

1948
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: need to see what Green Day's role is. But I've

1949
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 3: seen it in a couple of different places.

1950
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 2: It sounds like they'll be performing prior to the game.

1951
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 2: There's about a six pm Eastern they're expected to play,

1952
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 2: and so oh.

1953
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so they're there the pre entertainment. Okay, so

1954
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 3: we'll see. I'd be surprised that Billy Joe doesn't have

1955
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 3: some comment that's ill informed and annoying before the show.

1956
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 3: But either way, the counter programming, the NFL kind of

1957
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 3: put themselves in this position because they left it. And

1958
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: whether you agree with the motivations or not, I mean,

1959
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 3: obviously it's going to attract some degree of audience. It's

1960
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 3: on multiple networks. It's I don't know that it will

1961
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 3: be on Fox News, but it probably will. I know

1962
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,280
Speaker 3: it's going to be on some of the conservative streaming sites.

1963
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 3: And things like this. Personally for me as somebody who

1964
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:27,839
Speaker 3: does certainly lean conservative, I just the acts don't interest

1965
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,799
Speaker 3: me more than anything else. I understand what you're trying

1966
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 3: to accomplish here, and I kind of just kind of

1967
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 3: it's just who cares, really Like, I'm not against it

1968
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 3: for those that like the music or whatever like that,

1969
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 3: but it's not really going to attract my attention. I

1970
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 3: will probably watch the main one just because I want

1971
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 3: to see what happens. If there's anything newsworthy, it will

1972
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 3: come from that. It's not probably going to come from

1973
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 3: the sideline. I liked it better when halftime counterprogramming was

1974
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 3: the Puppy Bowl.

1975
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think that's still going on, by the way.

1976
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah well well and it may still be around and

1977
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 3: all those things like I miss stuff like that, Like

1978
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 3: can the halftime entertainment also be an escape? Like every

1979
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 3: year it seems to have become you know, we were

1980
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 3: even going to have that problem like what is Kendrick

1981
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 3: le mar gonna do? And now what is bad Bunny

1982
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 3: gonna do? And all this, and it's just like I

1983
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 3: just remember when it wasn't this complicated. That's why the

1984
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 3: whole justin Timberlake Janet Jackson. Thing was so stunning is

1985
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 3: because those performances have been so tame and so like

1986
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 3: by the book in terms of not nine in terms

1987
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 3: of them not being any good, because we, of course

1988
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 3: we had Prince and we had some others that I

1989
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,640
Speaker 3: really liked. I enjoyed Tom Betty when he did it.

1990
01:46:44,680 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 3: You know, We've had different moments like that. But it's

1991
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,719
Speaker 3: like now it's become yet another place for a political

1992
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 3: soapbox that doesn't need to exist. And the NFL's kind

1993
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 3: of leaned into its politics in the last handful of

1994
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 3: years with some of the sloganeering and some of the

1995
01:46:59,080 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 3: ads that they've run early in the season and things

1996
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 3: of that nature, and I just you know, you do

1997
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 3: you and obviously NFL is making a ton of money,

1998
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 3: but this is just kind of one of those where

1999
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,719
Speaker 3: it's I wish we didn't even have this to talk about.

2000
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 3: And although you know, I'm not gonna watch the counter programming,

2001
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, my wife and I we talked about is

2002
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 3: like we may tune it in just so it gets

2003
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 3: the number, because we do support in many ways the

2004
01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 3: ideology that'll be there. But at the same time, it's

2005
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 3: just I kind of wish that there wasn't that. I

2006
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 3: just kind of wish it was just music. And honestly,

2007
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 3: if Bad Bunny just goes and performs, that's fine, because

2008
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 3: and real quick that'll be that'll be fine.

2009
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 2: Let me jump in. And this is unfortunately the political

2010
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 2: world that we live in is that he has now

2011
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 2: set himself up where if he just performs and doesn't

2012
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 2: get political, there's going to be a component of the

2013
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 2: audience that's mad at him. Yes, oh, he didn't use

2014
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 2: his platform. And I guess I'll just my personal take.

2015
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,360
Speaker 2: I'll be quick on this is like I actually it's

2016
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 2: the weird one, you know, where I see both sides.

2017
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'll just be totally transparent because why wouldn't

2018
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 2: I be. You know, I am obviously part Hispanic. Last

2019
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 2: name's Torres. My wife is Hispanic as well. She actually

2020
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 2: likes Bad Buddies music. So like, it's one where I

2021
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: actually have like, no super strong opinion on this. It

2022
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 2: was funny because I got into a pseudo argument with

2023
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 2: my mom about this this morning, who I love dearly,

2024
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 2: but she let me just put it this way. She's

2025
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 2: not a fan of the current administration and so anything

2026
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 2: that whatever, and so she, you know, was you know,

2027
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 2: why has everyone out right? And all I said was, listen,

2028
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: the super Bowl is supposed to be. Like you said,

2029
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 2: I think even more than just sports in general, I

2030
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 2: think the super Bowl specifically is this it's it's literally

2031
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 2: like the world's great unifying event, like it is at

2032
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 2: least in America. I don't know about every country. It's

2033
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 2: the it's the most viewed thing in America. You get

2034
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: that way by just being about the game on the field,

2035
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 2: the halftime entertainment, the whatever. And unfortunately, when you bring

2036
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,800
Speaker 2: politics into stuff, you are going to piss people off.

2037
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 2: And so my only personal real stance is that I

2038
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 2: do understand those that are frustrated, that are saying, like

2039
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 2: I just want to tune in to watch some music,

2040
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 2: and I have somebody that I know has been very

2041
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 2: outspoken about this country, and I don't want that in

2042
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: my performance, or I don't think that somebody who has

2043
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: been outspoken in a negative manner should be representing, you know,

2044
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 2: the one hundred and twenty million people that are going

2045
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 2: to be watching this game. So, like, I understand both sides,

2046
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 2: but I also think, to your point, J. Marder, to

2047
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 2: the point that I just brought up is like, now

2048
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 2: it's a situation where that's you know, quote unquote his brand,

2049
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: where you know, guys like you and I are hoping, Hey,

2050
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm actually hoping he doesn't say anything because I just

2051
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't want it to be a topic. But then

2052
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 2: it will become a subtopic for the people that want

2053
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 2: him to say something yes, yeah, and then that'll be

2054
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 2: and then it'll be you know, and I will say,

2055
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 2: this is part of the the conundrum that the NFL

2056
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,479
Speaker 2: put themselves in, because if he doesn't say anything, now

2057
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna be, well, dude, goodell call it in. Why

2058
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 2: didn't he say anything? Blame the NFL, And it's like,

2059
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 2: darned if you do, darned if you don't, and uh,

2060
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 2: whatever ends up happening, there's gonna be people pissed off.

2061
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:38,799
Speaker 2: And the NFL's kind of backed themselves into this corner,

2062
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 2: and to a degree, Bad Bunny has backed himself into

2063
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 2: this corner as well, where it's not only going to

2064
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 2: be and in some cases it's not going to be

2065
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 2: at all about the performance. So I'll tuss back over

2066
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 2: to you.

2067
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 3: I'll say one I'll say one other thing, and that's this.

2068
01:50:55,760 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 3: You're kind of in a position now where almost any

2069
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 3: how you put out there is gonna have something that's

2070
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,839
Speaker 3: gonna create something like this. Maybe not quite to this extent,

2071
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 3: but if you want to go back to the Grammys,

2072
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? You're gonna pick Billie Eilish, Well,

2073
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 3: she said some pretty uncomfortable things about the country last

2074
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 3: week too on the Grammys, Like a lot of these

2075
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: artists are coming out and they are making these statements public,

2076
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 3: and because those that are out there, if they're ever picked,

2077
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 3: then that's what's gonna be brought up to bring it

2078
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 3: back to here. I don't know how many guys are

2079
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 3: how many artists out there are just milk toast and

2080
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 3: don't have any kind of controversy behind them, or maybe

2081
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 3: not controversy but ideology that's going to inflame one side

2082
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 3: or the other. I don't know what the answer is.

2083
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 3: We've come to a place where you can't just have

2084
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 3: entertainment anymore because there seems to be something on one

2085
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:57,480
Speaker 3: side of the aisle or the other. And that's unfortunate

2086
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 3: because to the point about the Puppy Bowl and everything else,

2087
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 3: this great unifying event where we're arguing about which one

2088
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 3: is the better commercial. One of the reasons why the

2089
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 3: commercials used to be so much better is because we

2090
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,519
Speaker 3: didn't have ideology in those. Either they were just funny,

2091
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 3: or they didn't land, or it was the Budweiser frogs

2092
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 3: or something to that event, like we'd be able to

2093
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 3: talk about something like that as opposed to this ad

2094
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 3: that was pushing this agenda and all this other stuff.

2095
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 3: It just makes it makes everything non entertainment. Everything becomes

2096
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 3: a take, everything becomes an opinion that's larger than itself.

2097
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 3: That's the one thing I will say about the football

2098
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 3: game that it will have over the halftime show and

2099
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 3: over the ads and over everything else, is during that

2100
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 3: sixty minutes when the clock is actually moving, there will

2101
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 3: be nothing but what's happening on the field. I just

2102
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 3: wish we had more opportunities in life in twenty twenty

2103
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 3: six where that was the case, where we could just

2104
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 3: step away from all of the other stuff and actually

2105
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: come together on the things that we agree on, as

2106
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 3: opposed to just hating one another because of what we

2107
01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 3: disagree on. And that's a significant problem right now, and

2108
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't sense it getting any better.

2109
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 2: Sadly, I don't either. Hopefully the football is good, although

2110
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if neither of us is gonna be either.

2111
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We'll come back, we'll make our

2112
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: final picks, we'll wrap the show. We are on until

2113
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: two am Eastern Time. Bernie Fraddo. Next, Er Toris Jason

2114
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 2: Martin Now Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports

2115
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 2: Radio Er Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live at the Fox

2116
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios.

2117
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 3: What forty eight.

2118
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 2: Eastern time, Bernie Fratto twelve minutes from now. He's live

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Speaker 2: in Vegas. He is gonna have every angle on this game.

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Speaker 2: J mart has a thirty point win for the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I will say twenty four to fourteen Seattle wins real quick,

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Speaker 2: jmart Because this is right in your wheelhouse. We are

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Speaker 2: in the heart and we're coming down the home stretch.

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Speaker 2: WNBA CBA negotiations.

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Speaker 3: Where are we going with?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I only bring it up. I saw a

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Speaker 2: tweet and listen, social media is stupid. Whatever. Now this

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Speaker 2: guy's not right, but he's like, I think there's a

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Speaker 2: world where we never see Caitlin Clark play professional basketball

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Speaker 2: in America again. Now, don't I don't think that's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. But I bring it up because the two

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Speaker 2: sides are still in negotiations and the owners really seem content.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make this a real business, and I'll

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Speaker 2: just be super quick on this. But for people so

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Speaker 2: have not followed the WNBA CBA negotiations minute to minute, Essentially,

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Speaker 2: this league that loses literally hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 2: a year, the players want more guaranteed salaries, bigger cuts,

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Speaker 2: bigger everything. And the crux of the issue is the

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Speaker 2: owners are actually like, can we turn this into a

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Speaker 2: real for profit business? And we got to cut back

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Speaker 2: and you can't get as much you want, blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah whatever. And it doesn't feel like after thirty years

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Speaker 2: of being subsidized, the owners are just going to give

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Speaker 2: the players whatever they want. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: have any super strong opinions on this, but it is

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Speaker 2: interesting in that this league where the players have just

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Speaker 2: give me, you know, give, give, give or excuse me,

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Speaker 2: take take, take, take take, without giving anything back, without

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Speaker 2: ever turning a profit, it kind of feels like the

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Speaker 2: owners are drawing a line in the sand of like knife.

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Speaker 2: If you're not ready to try to turn this into

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Speaker 2: an actual legitimate business. Then there's not really much we

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Speaker 2: can do to help.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what what is the like big time draw

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Speaker 3: for the owners to bring them back to lose more money. Yep,

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Speaker 3: Like they've lost enough money right now. You have an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: if you're the WNBA, to get yourselves off the mat

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Speaker 3: basically and attempt to start something. Really because I'm not

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Speaker 3: even to your league's basically not even existed for much

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Speaker 3: of the time that it's been around, because you haven't

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Speaker 3: turned a profit, you've actually been a net negative, and

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Speaker 3: you've done everything that you can since Kaitlyn Clark got

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Speaker 3: in that league to not actually, you know, maximize this

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Speaker 3: golden opportunity that you've had. And now Caitlin Clark's got

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Speaker 3: you know, a TV deal where she's doing Sunday nights

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Speaker 3: on NBC, so like there's not I mean, where's the groundswell?

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Speaker 3: I mean, where are the picket lines outside of all

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Speaker 3: the NBA arenas. Where are all the articles or all

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Speaker 3: the letters to the editor and all these other kinds

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Speaker 3: of things for them has filled up with people like

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch sports anymore until the WNBA

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Speaker 3: comes back or did we just kind of forget about

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Speaker 3: it and move on.

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Speaker 2: Let me jump in on that.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's an interesting data point on that is that

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Speaker 2: the unrivaled league, which for people don't know, it's a

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Speaker 2: women's basketball league, three on three whatever, that really rode

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Speaker 2: the wave of two seasons ago in the WNBA. So

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Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark, Angel Reese's rookie year, Caitlin Clark didn't play,

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Speaker 2: but it was kind of deemed a success in year one. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much you've been you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you've been dvring all these games, Jmark,

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Speaker 2: but this season is underway. Ratings are down close to

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Speaker 2: fifty percent from this time last year. And so, you know,

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Speaker 2: the term that you've used quite a bit to describe

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Speaker 2: the WNBA as they don't have a league, they have

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Speaker 2: a player, and it is reflective of all of the

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Speaker 2: positive momentum, and if you want to say positive momentum,

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Speaker 2: there was just more interest. I don't know if it

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Speaker 2: was momentum positively, because they just crapped on her every

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Speaker 2: chance they got, but whatever momentum that they did have

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Speaker 2: seems to have come completely to a Halt in a

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Speaker 2: second season in which she did not play well. Then

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Speaker 2: she got injured. She was completely out for probably the

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Speaker 2: last sixty to seventy percent of the season. And there

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Speaker 2: is just no momentum in women's basketball right now.

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Speaker 3: No, And look, there are better players than Kaitlyn Clark

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Speaker 3: in the WNBA. Doesn't matter. Caitlin Clark is the superstar.

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Speaker 3: There are a whole lot of women in the world

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Speaker 3: that sing better than Taylor Swift, that have better range

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Speaker 3: than her. It doesn't take much, but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: There are superstars and they are few and far between,

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Speaker 3: and in that league there's almost none. And you've done

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Speaker 3: this thing where and she's making her money on the

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Speaker 3: outside and she's got her shoe now you know, all

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Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff, She's got her logo and

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Speaker 3: like I mentioned, she's doing TV for the NBA games

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Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. Like she's transcended to WNBA already,

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Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter. She really doesn't have to suit

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Speaker 3: up and play again. If she does, it's just because

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Speaker 3: she likes playing basketball and she is good at it.

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Speaker 3: Right But at the same time, like she was already

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Speaker 3: a star that did not need that league, that league

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Speaker 3: needed her, and nobody seemed to figure that out. And

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Speaker 3: then it's pay us what you owe us when the

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Speaker 3: bills come due for all the money that you have

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Speaker 3: lost as a league for so much longer. It's just

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: Man, doesn't work. As I said, we are in the

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Speaker 2: middle of kind of CBA negotiations and it's just an

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Speaker 2: interesting story.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Again, it's being lost in the sports that we actually

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Speaker 2: care about. But it's just interesting is that it does

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Speaker 2: not feel like the owners are in interested in bargaining

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Speaker 2: and basically being in a situation where they are going

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Speaker 2: to be flexible on this. Tell you what we gotta

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Speaker 2: get out of here. I want to thank the crew,

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Speaker 2: Mary Mack on the boards, Ian Steve de Seger from

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Speaker 2: a partner, Jason Martin. I am Aren Torres. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: you listening. Everybody enjoy the game six point thirty Eastern

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, Arnie Spanier Chris Blake will be hosting Bertie

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