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Speaker 2: at a rushed pace because well.

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Speaker 1: Well because I was late. Just say it. You're so

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Speaker 1: guess what, I have things to do. I was in

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Speaker 1: Should bring our sad?

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Speaker 2: Should we bring in our guest?

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Speaker 1: You know, James, as white gay men in comedy, we

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Speaker 4: Well, you have to flip some pun, and that was apparent.

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Speaker 4: Where am I You're in Penn Station. Who are you?

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Speaker 4: You are number six, George.

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Speaker 2: That's what I did today.

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Speaker 4: This is how I came to a podcast like this.

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Speaker 4: It's very apparent and the Special my cousin made fun

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Speaker 1: Who there's all that's good?

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Speaker 2: never worked. It doesn't work. I just don't have any

442
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Speaker 2: other ideas, you know. What I kind of do this

443
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: with people.

444
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm learning is like when I think people are really

445
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: cool and I have to like talk to them, I'll

446
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: be really like I'll try like it's something I can't stop,

447
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: where I'll be like.

448
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like doing this thing and it's like and

449
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: it's like not, it's not flattering. They don't like it.

450
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 3: It seems like I'm not being warm, and yet I

451
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: can't not do it.

452
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: You want?

453
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: How often do you have someone that that grabs you

454
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 4: by your lapels and goes?

455
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: You got nothing to be ashamed of, your child of

456
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: God and your art? Is it matters? I need that

457
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: every single day?

458
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: Do you think, Sam, would you say you have social anxiety?

459
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: I don't. Well maybe.

460
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 3: I think I think everyone has it to an extent.

461
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it's part of my identity.

462
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're like, oh, God, awkward person

463
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: in the corner.

464
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm not Blurg. That's for damn sure.

465
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I Blurg is our shorthand for sort of you know,

466
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: someone's like, I guess I'm an adult blurg.

467
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh I guess this is normal. Now, so that's a thing.

468
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: So we call that blur. May you made up a

469
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: thing for it? It's so great.

470
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: I guess I made up a thing. Oh, I guess

471
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: now that's a thing.

472
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, that is like a particular Oh it's.

473
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: A male phone type.

474
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: It's the type. But also I hate to uh speak

475
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: in generational platitudes, but it's also a type that's very

476
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: like elder millennial, like that what that defined elder millennial

477
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: humor is, So I guess that's a thing.

478
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's almost gone out of style in the

479
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: way where I like miss it, Like I I sometimes

480
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, who's going to bring it back?

481
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: We can't go back.

482
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: It sounds like the kind of people that ran Twitter

483
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 4: for like seven years exactly.

484
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And I think that's

485
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: why maybe we feel a connection to it because that

486
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: was in many ways, Like I don't want to say

487
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: we came of age during that eric because I think

488
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: we're a little too old for that. But there I

489
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: think we like our sense of humor thrived in the

490
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: sort of golden era of Twitter. So I'm not ready

491
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: to let go of it completely, even though it now

492
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: is so embarrassing to me.

493
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: Can you imagine a person like that in real life

494
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 4: where they go into a coffee shop and they're like this, yeah,

495
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: this is everything, So I guess we're paying this now.

496
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: Wait.

497
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: My favorite is but I actually should say that when

498
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 3: with the price of these coffees in Los Angeles, I

499
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: swear I see US seven dollars and I'm like, I

500
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 3: guess we're paying this now?

501
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 2: You you should be an elder millennial blurg. I'm blur.

502
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty to criticize the blurg.

503
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 4: It merely to play at level one, one must become

504
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 4: the king of the Blurg.

505
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm self hating blurg.

506
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: That's literally me and Penn Station is becoming king of

507
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: the Blurg. The other day, I heard You're not a

508
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: real person for the first time in a while, like,

509
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: you are not a.

510
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 2: Real person, and I was like, oh, I love I

511
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: love that. Why am I like this?

512
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: Why am I like this?

513
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: That's funny?

514
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: My favorite the gay guy specific rid of this, which

515
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: I always think is fun is when someone will post

516
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: like a photo of them truly in like jeans and

517
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: a T shirt. But then they'll be like, not me

518
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: serving Disney Pixar, Dad.

519
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: Will that one songs? But George, I have to say something.

520
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: Last week, when I was dressed as a NASCAR driver,

521
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 3: famously people this, I wore a shirt that had the

522
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: word It was a Wrangler shirt and had the word

523
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: Wrangler all over it, and I wore like cowboy. I

524
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 3: was like kind of in costume, but it was like

525
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: what I was wearing for the day. I'm experiment and

526
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: were you playing or you're just saying you looked like

527
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: I looked like a NASCAR driver And I was just

528
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: sort of going about my day dressed as a NASCAR driver,

529
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: and I, you know, I felt like I was like

530
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: so okay people. I did get called out when I left,

531
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: like cause one I post a picture drivers like I

532
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: looked like a NASCAR driver and someone commented like, oh,

533
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: gay guy wears button down and says like I'm serving Mama,

534
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's not it.

535
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: I do look weird. Like I got called out for

536
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: doing the Pixar Dad thing.

537
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: I have to say, say, you're like insistence that you

538
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: looked so crazy? What's so funny? Like you just have

539
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: to like it is. It's definitely like it's like an

540
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: extension of your existing vibe, which is sort of playing

541
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: with signifiers of Americana, if you will.

542
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: But George, someone stopped me on the way into the

543
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: gym and said, like looked me up and down and

544
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: was like, excuse me, are you some kind of horseman?

545
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: And like he was like shocked and confused. And this

546
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 3: was like a fifty something guy who was like.

547
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: Leaving the gym, he meant, like you work with horses?

548
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 2: He literally was like he was literally do you work

549
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: with horses?

550
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, because I'm sorry that in that

551
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: situation he is the weird one, like you are a

552
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: gay guy, uh, commenting on Western aesthetics going to the gym,

553
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: asking me if you work with horses?

554
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: Sure, I don't want to step on any tunes. Are

555
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 4: you a horseman as I am?

556
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: But with you.

557
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: Sometimes I actually wish he was hitting on me. That

558
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: would have been amazing.

559
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 4: That's funny that that's what the that's what the gay

560
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 4: sex is like in in the gym sauna, but way

561
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: out in horse country, like in Chatsworth or the north

562
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: part of Burbank.

563
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: Maybe a horseman is a.

564
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: Are Yeah, a horseman is friend of.

565
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Dorothy, Yeah, exactly should Sometimes I don't serve a segment.

566
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: I don't serve.

567
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm gonna say this serve looks any better. I'm

568
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: a terrible server. I was fired from all those jobs

569
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: when I was younger, and so like I got fired.

570
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: I got fired one time because I spilled like day two,

571
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: I spilled coffee, hot coffee on an old man. You know,

572
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: not it didn't injure him, but it made angry and

573
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: and so uh like that's that's the kind of looks

574
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: that I'm serving, like disastrously, Like you no longer work

575
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 4: at Quizno's kind of thing.

576
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 3: Have you ever been like, you know what, like, have

577
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: you ever been like I'm doing a makeover on myself

578
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: and then been like nevermind?

579
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: Like wow, yeah, of course of course I have. I

580
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: want to know where the journeys are.

581
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: Well, I mean where it's like, uh, I play with

582
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: I play with mustaches and eyeshadow and and hairstyles, and

583
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh wait, but I have to do I

584
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 4: have to play a character in five days, so I

585
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 4: always have to look like like neutral, nothing.

586
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: Right, right? Right?

587
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 4: I can't playing with my shadow I do sometimes, I

588
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: mean yeah, I mean I used to know that really

589
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: a long time ago, but.

590
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: I used to.

591
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: But I have to look, I can't. I can't do

592
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 4: certain things because I've gotta show up and be some.

593
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Idiot because you're a blank slate.

594
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a blank locked into being a

595
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: blank fucking slate with all these stupid care that I

596
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: still do.

597
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: They're not stupid, Well.

598
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: James, don't say that about seriously, I.

599
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Would love it.

600
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: I would love to grow a permanent beard and become

601
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: a ring guy. Oh like they have like lots of rings,

602
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 4: and be one of those people. And this is there's

603
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: not many gays like this, but I want to be

604
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: the one. I want to be like the one in

605
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: my circle where it's like where it's like, are you

606
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: doing let me tell you something about rate and how

607
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: radio business works, like a ring.

608
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: Guy who gives advice.

609
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I know exactly what you're

610
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: talking about. And as you get older, as I've gotten older,

611
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: certainly the ring calls to you in a way you

612
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: are like, ah, all these things that as a you know,

613
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: as a twenty three year old, twenty four year old,

614
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: there's such signifiers of like almost like creepy older gay guy.

615
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: But then as you age into it, you're like, I

616
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: gotta buy rings I have.

617
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: I really do call one thing that happens because I

618
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: this happens where people go, you know, oh, that's your look.

619
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: Why are you trying to look like an aging hipster?

620
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: And it's like, no, this is there's very few things

621
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: that won't make me look like an aging ampster. I

622
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: have to wear the glasses, and so it's like I'm

623
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: locked in, and you realize that there's as you get older,

624
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: you're not deciding things. There's like a funnel that you're

625
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: falling into slowly. Yeah, and you're like, what side of

626
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 4: it am I going to slide down?

627
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?

628
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: I think part of my Western thing is like just

629
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 3: seeing what like a reset, like being like what if

630
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: I what if I don't what if I start fresh?

631
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: What if I knew? Yeah?

632
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean you could be openly gay too.

633
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I moved out, moved out here to

634
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: Nevada with my husband a couple of years ago.

635
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: We liked the land, you know, privacy, lowed sex, James,

636
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: that's my literal fantasy.

637
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: You mean like a like a cartoon improvised character. Literally, Okay,

638
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: you like you like Nevada Horseman.

639
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: Nevada Horseman is like up there, that's like that's real

640
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: high up there.

641
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I do think what I'm waiting for, Sam

642
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: is like the final step of this transformation is cowboy hat. Daily,

643
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Like before leaving the home, you put on a cowboy hat.

644
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's gotta it's it's gotta be a long transition

645
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: because if you go too quick. People are people are

646
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 3: gonna call me out, and I'm gonna get online hatred, so.

647
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I have to do slowly.

648
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I think what you I think, maybe what really made

649
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: you so aware of your horse outfit is rather than

650
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: having like one horse accent, you did three. It was

651
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: like shirt bells and cowboy boots.

652
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean I really was feeling confident

653
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: after because I was like, oh, it was stupid. You know,

654
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: when you're trying a new outfit, of course you're self

655
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: conscious at first, But when that man stopped dead in

656
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: his tracks, I was like, I was right to be

657
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: self conscious.

658
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Now was he doing like that stolen velor you know?

659
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: I honestly couldn't understand the wine man he cause the

660
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: he the moment I walked in, he was like taken

661
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 3: aback and like gave me the up and down in

662
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: a way that like I think, but he didn't say

663
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: it angrily. He said it with curiosity, like maybe he

664
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: like wanted to meet a cowboy his whole life, and

665
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: like like I was gonna be that for him, where

666
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: he was like.

667
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: The fashion has finally twisted my direction?

668
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and yeah, when I had to tell

669
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: this man like No, I'm just.

670
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: Dressing for fun like that really hurt. That really didn't

671
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: feel good.

672
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm actually just dressing to be like a lunatic,

673
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: like a weird guy.

674
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: Sham, I want, I wish we could do this social

675
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: interaction over again. He's the one being weird for asking

676
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: if you're a horseman, like you should have just responded

677
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: like what are you a questions man? And then just

678
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: walked right into the gym.

679
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: Bitch, he said, And then he'd say, well that horseman

680
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: was gay. Yeah, well by gone, that horseman was damn

681
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: a bitchy gay guy.

682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, we need to do our first sem so

683
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: that we can get into our.

684
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Topeque topeaque.

685
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: So James, Oh, where's mine?

686
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: James?

687
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

688
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: we test your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture

689
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: by asking you a series of rapid fire questions where

690
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: you have to choose this thing or this other thing.

691
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: And the one rule is you can't ask any follow

692
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: up questions about how it works, and if you do,

693
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: we will yell at you.

694
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: Sam go okay, James, FK twigs or mgmt's kids kids whoa.

695
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: James, Katie Perry flops again, or doing a Hail Mary

696
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: and then saying amen.

697
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: Hail Mary aw Man, Okay, James, Robert Maplethorpe or thorn oakenshield.

698
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Maplethorpe, objects and mirror are closer than they appear. Or

699
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: making an error that's detrimental to your career.

700
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm making an error that's detrimental to your career. Okay.

701
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: A stake at carbone or a hey on your carphone.

702
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: Steak at carbone, egg on my face, or begging.

703
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: For grace, begging for grace, okay, scientology or I have

704
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: got to pee.

705
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: Scientology.

706
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: Iron Lady, the Fearless Girl, or the wonder Woman, Oh Lady.

707
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: Iron Lady.

708
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: Wow, amazing, George, what would you rate James's performance?

709
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: I think that was a perfect I mean, I don't

710
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: know my being too. I was about to say that

711
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: was a perfect performance, but now I'm trying to think

712
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: were there any was Is there anything I would have

713
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: done differently?

714
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Can I say that I just love the Iron Lady

715
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 4: is Margaret Thatcher? I believe, of course I love that

716
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 4: that was her nickname. That someone was like, She's the

717
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: Iron Lady, and it was a compliment. They they no

718
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 4: one saw it as a terrible insult. Yeah, she's a

719
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 4: lady made of iron.

720
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: Was it supposed to be a compliment, well she Yeah,

721
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: it's like she's strong, she's strong strong.

722
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: It sounds like she was married to the iron cheek. Yeah,

723
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: I get it.

724
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: I get iron lady confused with iron curtain.

725
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's what for modesty. For modesty, she would do

726
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: her changing. She wouldn't iron curty.

727
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: She would change behind an iron in.

728
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: Her iron bedroom. Yeah.

729
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the her she's ad with the chocolate cow.

730
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: Everything was kind of iron in her world.

731
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 3: Oh oh yes, of course, like she's cow.

732
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: No, that checks out, of course.

733
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: You know these reverences. So that was my test for you,

734
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: Iron lady or chocolate cow.

735
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: Oh, chocolate cow cow.

736
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: There you go.

737
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm really eager to get into the topic because

738
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: I think it's a juicy one.

739
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, James, tell us what your topic is today

740
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,959
Speaker 3: and say a little bit about what makes it straight.

741
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: Okay. So I think it's conspiracy theories.

742
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 4: I think gays are underrepresented in them, and I'm gonna

743
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: say this is the ridiculous. But in mainstream the conspiracy culture,

744
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: of course, off off screen, off of the Internet shows. Sure,

745
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: there's conspiracy theories everywhere you go that's gay because we're

746
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: human beings, of course, share some fucking tendencies and but like,

747
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: but like when you when you're into like, oh, these

748
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 4: are the conspiracy guys, there's not there's not a there's

749
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: not a well known gay one.

750
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there, you know it. So that's that's the

751
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: short version.

752
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about like info wars, Yes, like Alex

753
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Jones whatever. Yeah, I mean the stereotype, of course is

754
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: that gay guy conspiracy theory or not to limit to

755
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: gay guys, but gay conspiracy theories are all about like,

756
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: they're all about celebrities, they're all about who's having an

757
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: affair with who, they are all about true, Oh, these

758
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: two people on this TV show, there's actually lore that

759
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: they like are gay.

760
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: It's like gossip column thing.

761
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: It's exactly it's gossip column and it's fan fiction. Like

762
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: it's fan fiction gossip column like projecting onto you know,

763
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Kate Winslet that she secretly has you know, hates Nicole

764
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: Kidman or something like.

765
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 4: It's if Alex Jones had been gay, he would have

766
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: been like blind item folks.

767
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, blind item exactly like tabloids blind items like

768
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: that is a gay conspiracy theorizing which.

769
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: A certain a certain operation, a certain operation.

770
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 4: That that the initials are A and Q maybe funded

771
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: by a certain organization. It's a three letter organization. And

772
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: then like two weeks later he fills in what it means.

773
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I yeah, there's part of me that's like, why

774
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: can't gay people think of more substantial conspiracy theories, Like

775
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: why like let's have some confidence and be like the

776
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: election was rigged.

777
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: Well because there's no glamour in politics. I really feel

778
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: like in the same way that straight eyes really are

779
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: obsessed with history and and like knowing how maps work,

780
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: Like gay guys cannot care about that.

781
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: There's something history and maps.

782
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: We can't be we can't be promoting that stereotype.

783
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: No, I can't.

784
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: But I just mean like straight eyes like casually are

785
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: obsessed with it, like right, it's like specific.

786
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: A people of course care about it.

787
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: But street eyes like the standard are like it's actually

788
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: a really interesting battle.

789
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: Where you're like, you know, the you know, the gas

790
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: and purchases would establish the border in.

791
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: Exactly Mexico, and guys fetishize facts famously that's like their

792
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: favorite thing to do is to like learn one fact

793
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: and then think it describes their entire worldview.

794
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: So I do think the Treaty of West Folly is

795
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: going to establish the precedent for well, you know, modern

796
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: state of Germany, well.

797
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: The exact way.

798
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: And I think a conspiracy theory is just a you know,

799
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: contemporary version of that. And it's like wanting to get

800
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: ahead of the history story. Mm hm oh, it's kind

801
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: of how I feel about it.

802
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: So it's like it's like fan writing your own Yeah. Yeah,

803
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I think all I want to do now that you

804
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: said that gays don't do maps in history, is all

805
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: I want to do is cast you in Like I

806
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: want to have a scene where there's like it's the

807
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: gay Department in like World War two, and they're like, well,

808
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: we have to figure out how we're going to do

809
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: D Day.

810
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: I've assigned it to us.

811
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: I mean honestly, there if someone's like, okay, we're going

812
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: like this is a problem. Sometimes I can't tell if

813
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: things are because I'm gay or because I'm like comedy brained.

814
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 4: Good question, which one is it. You have to compare

815
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: your you have to have control groups.

816
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: You have to have unfunny gays and ungay funny funny.

817
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: That is so true though, yes, Sam.

818
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: Because like when I try to do something serious, like

819
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: if I was like, if someone was like, Sam, you

820
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: have to plan this battle, I would be like fuck,

821
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: like like I can't take Even if I were like, you, guys, seriously,

822
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: it's time to go to war, like no one would

823
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: take it seriously. It would sound funny if I was

824
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: if they were like, you're cast as general whatever, and

825
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: I would be like, okay, guys, get serious because.

826
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we ride at dawn. Like it would never sound right.

827
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you there are so many I do

828
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: I am now this is a tangent. I'm there's like,

829
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: for example, there's so many generals in the Civil War

830
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: that were bad at what they did that you would

831
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: be castable as that as like where's their representation as

832
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: like a George McClellan, like a generally doesn't know what

833
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: he's doing.

834
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: It's like, guy, it is winning. It is just so

835
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: true that I don't know. So many historical figures are

836
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: so much dumber and more random than they are like

837
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: written as in history books.

838
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: Right when you're the actor, it's always like what whatever

839
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: the wherever, whatever the world is where you're like, the

840
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: history of this country rests in the hands of we

841
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: few soldiers here today, and he was.

842
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: It's the Erran's organization of history. It's like literally like

843
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: taking things that are completely honestly like random and based

844
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: on so many sort of unpredictable everyday things and then

845
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: trying to make them into like a simple equation of like,

846
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: these are the good guys, these are the bad guys.

847
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: He was brave, he was a coward.

848
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: Right, they have to they have to.

849
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: You have to have not only good guys and bad guys.

850
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 4: You have to be you have to be like this

851
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 4: was a This was a good guy that was good

852
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: at being a good guy.

853
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: And you know what, I think this is a genuine

854
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: I think when like in a few generations, when people

855
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: have no actual memory of Trump as a figure that

856
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: they that lived on the same planet as them, I

857
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: think he will be thought about as like an incredible mastermind,

858
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I think all of the all of

859
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: the whimsy and the humor of it will be will

860
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: go away, and he will be thought of as this

861
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: like crazy, you know, power hungry.

862
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: Well, they say he's like a great orator. That's what

863
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: they'll say.

864
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: That's what you say about There's so many people in

865
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: history where you can't verify it, where they're like he

866
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 4: was known, like even the Romans, they're like known.

867
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: To be a great orator. Yeah, yeah, we show play

868
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: show me the recording, play me a tape.

869
00:42:51,239 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, of of fucking what's his name, Kato the Elder's Christ.

870
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: What a stretch that was.

871
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: But even like Hitler for example, was a complete like.

872
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: Hitler for example, where we go just by himself himself

873
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: that like Hitler for example, Like, okay.

874
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Let's take Hitler, like he was such a sort of

875
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: like insane, eccentric, weird like person. He was like on

876
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: speed all the time, every in cell, very in cell,

877
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: very like not obviously you know, like much like Trump obviously,

878
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: like a like a complete scourge on the whole world.

879
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: But he wasn't some mastermind. He was just like just

880
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: stupid enough to make it work somehow.

881
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

882
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Hitler is like what happens when you let

883
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 4: some message board dork get.

884
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: Into exactly everything exactly.

885
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that, like.

886
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: Any message board there's some guy who's going, like, here's

887
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: what my solution would be and it's like and something wrong. Yeah,

888
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: and you put that guy in charge, and then yeah,

889
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: that's what he should have that that that just that

890
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: there's always going to be somebody like that, but they're

891
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: either going to be on a message board or in

892
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 4: a dark corner of a library basement in Hitler's.

893
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: It'll take me a while to get over Well, well,

894
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: let's take Hiller for example.

895
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: I know that's really tough one. That's funny.

896
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: I've never heard I want the what's the law where

897
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 4: you lose the argument if you compare, if you bring

898
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: up well, I was.

899
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: Trying to think about I don't know.

900
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of a parallel to Trump, Like,

901
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: what's another famous historical villain who is resputant? Resputant?

902
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: No, but I think Trump might, we might be in

903
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: danger of people might if he's not vilified enough appropriately.

904
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna go through a Nixon phase where

905
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: he's this cartoonish villain.

906
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: Because like, I'm he resigned.

907
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: Nixon resigned six years before I'm born, but he was

908
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,240
Speaker 4: still my whole life everyone even to this day.

909
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: It's the funniest, the funny punchline.

910
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: It's like fut drama. Yeah, thirty years later is doing

911
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: plots about Richard Nixon, and I think Trump will be

912
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 4: like that. He'll be like Nixon where people will want

913
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 4: to like relive how ridiculous it was, sure, but then

914
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: at a certain point it will be like it'll be

915
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 4: like a Teddy, like Teddy Roosevelt, where people are like,

916
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: we don't even know if he's good or not because

917
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 4: it's so far in the past.

918
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 3: I mean the way I feel that about so much

919
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: of history. I'm like, yeah, seems like it was on

920
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: average pretty okay, Wait.

921
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: Okay, back to conspiracy theories. True, hear me out. I

922
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: think there's evidence that they don't want us to get

923
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: to the topic. That's why it's not hard radio.

924
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: It goes all the way to the topic heart radio.

925
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: I feel like straight people also, like gay people are

926
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: busy with like an active night life and true, and

927
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 3: I feel like straight people like are you know when

928
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: they can't sleep and it's Saturday night, It's like, well,

929
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: I guess I'll lose myself in the most arranged website

930
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: I can find.

931
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: Sure, And you're gonna read something that starts out with

932
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 4: blue text font yes, and then then it turns like

933
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: orange and there's like none of it is white or

934
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: black text. It's always that colored text, paragraph, paragraph by paragraph,

935
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: and you're like, this.

936
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: Is true, this is yeah.

937
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 4: I gotta, I gotta send this to I gotta who

938
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 4: could receive this information?

939
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: Only the people I trust, we need.

940
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: There's also just no one like okay. So often conspiracy

941
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: theories start with like not the stereotype, but it's like, Okay,

942
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: things in my life aren't going well. Surely that can't

943
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: be because of obvious things like I don't know social

944
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: sociopolitical trends like the economy. Uh, you know the fact

945
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: that I was born in a certain set of circumstances,

946
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: the fact that I made or did not make an

947
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: effort to do this or that thing. It must be

948
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: something bigger because I inherently deserve more than I have,

949
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: and I feel like and that's where a lot of

950
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: like deep stuck eight big picture conspiracy theories potentially come from,

951
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: or they come from just someone being bored, which is

952
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: also pretty straight right.

953
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: And I make a distinction too, because to me, there's rank,

954
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: it's not. I get annoyed too when there's some kinds

955
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 4: of like rational freethinkers that are like that's a conspiracy theory,

956
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: and there's like a button they pressed to make it

957
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 4: go away to it's like, well, no, there are some

958
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: organizations that have secret budgets and assassinate, right, and if

959
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: you get the guy drunk enough, he'll admit it.

960
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: But like, but like there's like if it involves.

961
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: If anything involves Aliens or Jews, like you should know

962
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 4: that's obviously wrong.

963
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, but I think you're taking the cake. We're

964
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna I was the winner of most insane things said

965
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: with Take Kitler for example, for example, and I think

966
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: if anything involves Aliens or Jews, is actually they Well I'm.

967
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: Trying to be like, those are the craziest conspiracy theories.

968
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: I mean, no, of course I'm putting them in. I

969
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: guess I really well, take Kitler for EXAs of course.

970
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: Okay. The other thing with conspiracy, it's like this idea, Okay,

971
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: so much conspiracy theorizing boils down to like there's a

972
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: shadowy cabal of people that control everything, and that is

973
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: at face value true. Yeah, But then but then you

974
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: have to, like you have to also approach it with

975
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: like a thirst for actual evidence and with a sense

976
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: of and with like a foundation of basic knowledge about

977
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: the world.

978
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not quite that simple, Like they disagree with

979
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: each other and there's not it's not like an ethnicity.

980
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, it's probably like ten thousand people. Yeah,

981
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 4: like really really rich. You know, it's it, and it's

982
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: that that's ten thousand people. They disagree with each other,

983
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: and they have meetings, they have public meetings, they go

984
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: to like.

985
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: DeVos and stuff. So it's right exactly.

986
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: It's not in like an underground layer under a mountain. No,

987
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: they're flying public and going there.

988
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: I mean there is like the Hollywood element of this

989
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: as well, where you're like like sometimes it really feels

990
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 3: like there's like people that like just pick and then

991
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: there's people that become super famous and like how how

992
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 3: does this happen? And then you like actually see like

993
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 3: if you're ever on the other side, you're like, oh no,

994
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: it's just completely fucking crazy, Like it's not like it

995
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: doesn't feel to me anymore. Like there's like just like

996
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: a few people you have to do with yeah yeah, yeah,

997
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: or you mean the people who have the gatekeepers or

998
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 3: the gatekeeper the gatekeepers, Okay, right.

999
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: So you're saying that's so, then what is the truth

1000
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: about the gatekeepers.

1001
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: I think there's more random I think for this is

1002
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 4: an interesting like Hollywood is a microcosm of like human society.

1003
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 4: There are gatekeepers, yeah, and there are people who like

1004
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 4: have like oh I have a blacklist, like these people

1005
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: will be shunned or these people will be rewarded, but

1006
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: they don't have like they're not gods, don't have.

1007
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: Like total power.

1008
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 4: Like right, there's like a it's like a dragon sitting

1009
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: on a horde of coins, and it's like I'm a

1010
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: scary dragon, and it's like you can go around, you can.

1011
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: There's like other ways. Yeah, there's other castles. Yes, you

1012
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: can just go somewhere else. Yeah, yeah there are, but

1013
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: you don't have to go through their gate is right exactly.

1014
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: And the gatekeepers can be like every time so many

1015
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: times that I've come into contact with someone that had

1016
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: like an immense amount of power, I was like, oh no,

1017
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: this is it, Like it's just someone's nephew.

1018
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1019
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: It literally is just some guy that you know went

1020
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: to you pen and you someone and then like made

1021
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: a couple of right choices and was a little lucky

1022
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: and someone promoted him and now suddenly he is like

1023
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: forty seven years old, and literally it's his choice whether

1024
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: or not I can do something right.

1025
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 4: And you and there's like two wolves inside of you

1026
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 4: as a performer, where you're like, You're like, am I

1027
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: gonna be angry about that? Or you could be like, well, yeah,

1028
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 4: that's just he probably feels a little bit awkward about

1029
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: it too, totally.

1030
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: I've this is so I feel mixed about this, But

1031
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: I do think the older I get, the more I

1032
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: weirdly have, if not empathy, then something like an ability

1033
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: to identify, at least with people who find themselves in

1034
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: positions of power without necessarily being some Machiavellian genius. And

1035
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: then it's like, well, I guess this is my life now,

1036
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Like I like all day I have to basically like

1037
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: tell people I'm killing their dreams but it's not my.

1038
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: Fault, right, And then you, like like Penstation or The

1039
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: Prisoner with Patrick McGowan, you find yourself not even in

1040
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: a Machiavellian sense climbing up the ranks, but you just

1041
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 4: find yourself at it. Oh, now I'm in the next

1042
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: chapter of the story. Now I'm in the next act

1043
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 4: of the play. And you know a little bit more

1044
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 4: about how it works the next level of video game,

1045
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, okay, I guess. I guess I'm

1046
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: here and I'm part of the now.

1047
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: I guess we're just gonna be sort of doing the

1048
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: same thing but with slightly higher stakes. And then that

1049
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: just keeps going every year forever that I hope you

1050
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: end up somewhere.

1051
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 4: Okay, that is a funnier and more interesting conspiracy for me,

1052
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 4: for whether it's like a superhero movie or like Alan

1053
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 4: Moore comic book or something, is like a conspiracy of

1054
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 4: people who don't want to be there and don't really

1055
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: know what they're doing.

1056
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: That would be very very interesting. Yeah, are there any

1057
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: conspiracies that you believe? Yeah?

1058
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: Sure, the basic ones. Yeah, Kennedy was killed by the government,

1059
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 4: so was his brother, and.

1060
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: Uh, this is so fun.

1061
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: You believe we ever went on the moon?

1062
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: Yes, we went on the moon.

1063
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: That's in the category with that's ridiculous by almost design?

1064
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: Does does does it fall under alien? Alien?

1065
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: Anything involving those things is too crazy to even consider.

1066
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: But like I see if it's like if it's like, yeah,

1067
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 4: I could see it. There's a something to be gained. Uh,

1068
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: you know, there's a it's a known or shadowy organization

1069
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 4: that's can't be audited, like no one can verify, no

1070
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: one's allowed to look at their records, like okay, yeah,

1071
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 4: and then there's a lot of other evidence too. And

1072
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 4: I at this point, I'm like, I'm tired of it.

1073
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, sure, all right, you know they you

1074
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 4: get away with killing people sometimes. Oh well, I mean

1075
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: this is it doesn't end like, it doesn't end like

1076
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: Colombo or or inspector Cluzau.

1077
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: For sure.

1078
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: Sure, it's like a lot of people get away with

1079
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 4: murders all over the place.

1080
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh of course, why why else would you do it

1081
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: if not to get away with it? Right?

1082
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: No one wants to do murder and then get caught.

1083
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, then it's like why do the murder in the

1084
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: first place?

1085
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 4: Hello, I mean that is pretty bold. That's like if

1086
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 4: you if you are like a competitive public murderer.

1087
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: I have to say.

1088
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: You know, before we before we started recording, you were like,

1089
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: maybe conspiracy theories like that be fun. And you were like,

1090
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 3: but I'm worready it'll get too dark. And I was like, no, no, no,

1091
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: it'll be fine. And then we have gone, well consider Hitler,

1092
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: and then we've gone.

1093
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: Like I knew it would not work. I knew this

1094
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: would not work, and yet there was no other you know.

1095
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: It's it's like you ever find yourself like leaving your

1096
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: body and being like, oh no, this is this is

1097
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: a video of three men. No, I'm literally podcasting studios

1098
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: in podcasting studios talking about conspiracy theories, and you're like,

1099
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: oh no, oh.

1100
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: What were it's gonna be. It's gonna be. There's gonna

1101
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: be a conspiracy theory about this. Is that what you mean?

1102
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: No, like we are saying this is such a classic.

1103
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: It's such a classic, like Joe Rogan thing. It's like,

1104
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: well a decontextualized clip where it's like you being like, yeah,

1105
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,959
Speaker 1: of course that was fake.

1106
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: If you were gonna be if you were if you're right,

1107
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 4: if you take the ticket, if you were gonna be

1108
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: more like a typical straight conspiracy theory podcast. Sure, well,

1109
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 4: I'll be the guy. There would be one guy who

1110
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: the whole time is just looking at a screen. Yeah,

1111
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: like no, I'm looking at it now and it says

1112
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: that they that was publicly acknowledged during the Reagan administration,

1113
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 4: it turns out, And then I would be the guy

1114
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: that just like, oh yeah, hah yeah.

1115
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the sidekick, You're the Robin Quivers.

1116
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, haha, uh yeah.

1117
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 4: I mean and then you've got to be vaping and

1118
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: like you have I don't know, you have hats that

1119
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 4: say truth or speech on them.

1120
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I'm just like the My thing is

1121
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: like I don't actually pay attention to the details, but

1122
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: I just want to bring it back to how it

1123
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: trans People are bad. So so like you're you're saying

1124
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: something about the moon landing and I'm like, yeah, now

1125
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: we got Now they're changing people's birth certificates.

1126
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, hold on, I see an evidence here.

1127
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm pulling up I'm pulling up Reddit.

1128
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's authority and wow, well I do think

1129
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: there's sort of what is it You either die a

1130
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: hero or live long enough to become the villain. That's

1131
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: sort of what we uh as podcasters talking about conspiracy

1132
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: theories stepped.

1133
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: We stepped in it pretty quickly.

1134
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I'll say about thirty minute theories. Something

1135
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: that is a bit gay. Two things that are a

1136
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: bit gay about conspiracy theories are okay. One, you're telling

1137
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: yourself stories in order to live, well, just to say

1138
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: you're doing a world building, you are doing collective meaning making. Two,

1139
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: you're finding chosen family. I think a lot of people

1140
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: who are attraged to conspiracy theories feel very solitary or lonely,

1141
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: and this is a way of building community, which you know,

1142
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: it's sort of their sports, right.

1143
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: Well, it's also that's the like, that's what I mean

1144
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 3: about nightlife. If if they had friends texting them every

1145
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: Friday and Saturday their night life, they would be like, well,

1146
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: I don't have time to talk to my message board friends.

1147
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: What about like a really.

1148
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 4: Like an AFT, like an after hours like a club

1149
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 4: that caters to the conspiracy theory set where it's like

1150
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: instead of like there's a dance floor, but there's just

1151
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 4: like there's just like weird statistics and books on tape

1152
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 4: being read like the Warren Report.

1153
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: Yes, and we need like and of course there's a

1154
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: gaming with the beat underneath it. Well, of course.

1155
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Alex Jones on the DJing and.

1156
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: You know how people will put like Alan Watts quotes

1157
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: over like dance music.

1158
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, there should be.

1159
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: You are something the whole universe is doing that.

1160
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: You could do that with Alex Jones totally for the worst.

1161
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 4: This is the worst nightclub. But why can't imagine I

1162
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to go, but but but someone would, But

1163
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 4: it would be I would want to I would want

1164
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: to go once.

1165
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 2: I would want to go one time and film a

1166
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: few things.

1167
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: Sure you mentioned before that Alex Jones considers himself a

1168
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: performance artist.

1169
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 4: Oh well, that was his defense and one that's his

1170
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: defense trials, which I thought endlessly hilarious, where they pushed

1171
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: him on what because he had to say he was

1172
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 4: performing in order to get away with saying libelous things.

1173
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And so.

1174
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 4: He had to say his defense was that he was

1175
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: a performer, like a performance artist, that I'm essentially a

1176
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: performance artist.

1177
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: And because he's he was lying.

1178
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 4: He was lying to the judge saying that those weren't

1179
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: his real opinions, that it was you know, you know,

1180
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: it's just I'm on stage. That's the defense, and I couldn't.

1181
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: I wanted I wanted that to be. I really wish that,

1182
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 4: like a theater mask could come off and he'd be like,

1183
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: I've been playing the Alex Jones character for twenty five years.

1184
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: I learned. I learned from the greats. I was a

1185
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 4: graffiti artist in the nineteen eighties.

1186
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: It's tough when you hear someone who you like, really

1187
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: despise and think of as a bad person, like have

1188
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: a similar vibe to you, Like George and I have

1189
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: actively been like, you know, we believe this unless you

1190
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: don't like it, and then we're kidding.

1191
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: No, it's true. Yeah, no, I you're describing that. I'm like,

1192
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: that is basically our defense. Whenever we go out on

1193
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: a limb and say something that we're not sure about

1194
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, we are ultimately like, we don't none

1195
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: of it is serious and we don't really like we're

1196
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: sort of working through our first draft thoughts. Yeah, and

1197
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: it's not meant to be set in stone, but unfortunately,

1198
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: because of the nature.

1199
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 4: Of podcasting it is. It makes you think, like these

1200
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: are your like this goes into the Hall of records. Yeah, yeah,

1201
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 4: and it'll be sighted oh in three or four years.

1202
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 3: Maybe we before every episode, we should have a disclaimer

1203
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: that's like, first of all, everything that we said is fake.

1204
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: We don't believe any of it. And if you cite this,

1205
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: you're a fucking pervert. I looked that you had right

1206
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: up until the end. That was like good NPR voice, Yeah,

1207
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 3: you're listening this radio lab an, you know, thought experiment.

1208
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: Some of these thoughts are works in progress. Damn for

1209
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: more than normal saying I'm happy that you said I

1210
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 3: had NPR voice for a second, because that actually gives

1211
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 3: me the confidence that we were saying earlier that I

1212
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: couldn't be serious, and I was like, maybe I could

1213
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: be NPR serious.

1214
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: Well, I think NPR serious is the only path for

1215
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: a game a man to be serious.

1216
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 4: That's so funny to be the kind of person And

1217
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: like it would be ten or twenty years from now

1218
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 4: where you would make a career switch and someone and

1219
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: you'd be like, now, Senator, it's come out that you

1220
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: were you were subscribed to a number of OnlyFans accounts,

1221
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 4: and now you want to be a president?

1222
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: Is that still a get you? Would you care to

1223
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: describe that any fruit? Yes?

1224
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: Well, I am horny on like any other person, and

1225
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: you know I'm a very sex positive presidential candidate.

1226
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: Wow, Sam, you're already you're winning Pennsylvania.

1227
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: Now you're the candidate and you're winning. Good you dodge that.

1228
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: This is I mean, this is a larger conversation. But Okay,

1229
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: what is the correct level of gaveaway someone can have

1230
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: in order to be a mainstream public figure. Wow, that

1231
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: is relatable to all.

1232
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I mean? You mean you mean

1233
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: you mean not to be too gay to be the

1234
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: public figure. Is that what you mean?

1235
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: Here's what I Here's what I think. I think it's

1236
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: not about it's not about finding a happy medium. I

1237
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: think it's about either being full straight voice Pete boudha

1238
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: jeedge or you go full gay voice. And that's part

1239
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: of it. And then and then women are like, ugh,

1240
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: you like I love listening to your radio show, like

1241
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: I love watching you on, like you go full full

1242
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: in the other day, I think what people I think

1243
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: where people lose the battle is when they try to

1244
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: split the difference. Yes, I think you either have to

1245
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: be Jonathan van Ness or Pete Budha Jedge.

1246
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: I never developed gay voice, and I didn't know what

1247
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: when I was a child. I remember a cornered a hairdresser.

1248
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: It was like the one time, it was the first

1249
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 4: time I had a one on one with a gay

1250
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 4: adult because I was like, oh, I had thirty minutes

1251
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: with a getting a haircut, and you know, I was

1252
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: like twelve, was old enough to go get a haircut

1253
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: by myself, you know, So I was getting a haircut

1254
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: and no, I had no friends with.

1255
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: Me, and I asked. I was like, I was like,

1256
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: would you mind if I ask you a few questions

1257
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: about what I was like, you're gay? You're gay, and

1258
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: like yeah. He was like yeah.

1259
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: And then I was I'm such an innocent, stupid question

1260
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: that you could only ask as a twelve year old.

1261
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, when did your I

1262
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 4: was like, when did your voice become like that?

1263
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: And he was like he was like sweet.

1264
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, well, it's just always it's how

1265
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 4: I talk, you know, and maybe I hide it sometimes

1266
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: and you know, and but you know, it's just that's

1267
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: the the way I sound.

1268
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 2: And so I thought I thought it would happen and

1269
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: just never did.

1270
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: Were you like, I'm gay, so this is coming from me?

1271
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: Or you were like, I'm not gay because my voice

1272
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: doesn't sound like that.

1273
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 4: It was, No, it was when I knew. I was

1274
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 4: when I realized that I was twelve when I pieced

1275
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: it together because I knew what I liked and I

1276
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 4: knew what gay meant in like the news. So when

1277
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 4: I was twelve is when I was like, oh, it's

1278
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: that's when like at the eye doctor when the image

1279
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: like yeah, wow, So I was like, oh that was

1280
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: when I was like, oh, buckle up, I am stuck.

1281
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: I am on a ride. Yeah.

1282
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a there's a special curse of not

1283
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: having gay voice, because if you don't read as gay,

1284
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: then you it actually makes it more difficult for you.

1285
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what I'm doing, I guess. I mean, yeah,

1286
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: different context. It's it's just different. I mean, people don't

1287
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 4: know I'm gay, and that hurts sometimes and it helps sometimes,

1288
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 4: and I have to. I fucking have to blabber about

1289
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: it on stage. I feel the most comfortable doing it.

1290
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: And that's why your first special was named butt Pirate.

1291
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: It was almost that good. It was low. Hanging Fruit

1292
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: was my my album twelve years.

1293
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's Janius.

1294
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 2: That is good.

1295
01:03:54,800 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 4: You're good, You're good, You're good. These look do I

1296
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 4: released something every twelve years. It's always the year of

1297
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 4: the Dragon.

1298
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1299
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: No, Hanging Fruit was in twenty twelve, and that's where

1300
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 4: my classic gay villains bit can be heard.

1301
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 3: You know, I was talking to a coworker and they

1302
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 3: brought up your gay villains bit.

1303
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1304
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 4: It's almost been completely forgotten to link rot but it

1305
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 4: was resurrected when we re released that a couple of

1306
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 4: years ago, and then also and then it being the

1307
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 4: year of the Dragon. Here I am on the path

1308
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: of most resistance.

1309
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 2: Wow.

1310
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Speaker 4: Okay, like we have any final chapter titles where someone

1311
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: be like you could call him a low hanging fruit

1312
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: and he found himself on the path of most resistance.

1313
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: Wow. I can't wait for twelve years from now. I

1314
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: know what is what's next going to be? Let's see, No,

1315
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: it'll be like the end the most resistance period.

1316
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, I have a great one, James. If you

1317
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: release a special like when you're eighty years old.

1318
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love this.

1319
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Yes, out to Pasture.

1320
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 4: Oh I really want to enter. I'm just kind of

1321
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 4: treading water until I can fulfill two kinds of things

1322
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: in Hollywood, because right now I'm stuck in an audition cartoons.

1323
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: I get to do whatever I want and nobody limits you.

1324
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 4: You can play, you can play like a ball of

1325
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 4: fire whatever, and but like in on camera, I'm limited

1326
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: to playing like psychotic weird, MyPillow straight assholes or or

1327
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 4: the like the pilot. The sitcom things I get are

1328
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 4: always like I'm middle a like everyone's trying to remake

1329
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: modern family. So it's always like, I'm a middle aged

1330
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 4: gay and I don't obviously there's no sex, but there's

1331
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 4: a I'm really I'm clean, I'm really uptight, and I'm like,

1332
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: I'm the opposite of this type. I keep getting auditions

1333
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: for where it's like the one thing you should know

1334
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: about me is that I'm clean, and I'm like I'm

1335
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 4: a complete mess. But no one makes those characters for Yeah,

1336
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 4: but that's.

1337
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Like, but you're always it's like how smart people are

1338
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: best at playing dumb people, Like you're always so good

1339
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: at playing the opposite because you know exactly how to

1340
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: access that.

1341
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: Well, there's two types that I'm looking forward to aging into,

1342
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 4: which is arch. I can't wait to be an arch

1343
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 4: villain if I can get if I can pull it off.

1344
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: I want to be like Goldfinger.

1345
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be I would love it. I

1346
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: want to be like a Bond villain. I have a

1347
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: whole career about it.

1348
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: You know, like you really think that you would come

1349
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 4: in here and talk to me that way? Please more

1350
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 4: asparagus for Agent double O seven. That would be a great,

1351
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 4: let's be honest, a great James Bond now you'd be

1352
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 4: good at it. The other the other character I really

1353
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: want to age into is like just the older the

1354
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 4: older gay comedian who comes out wearing like a night robe.

1355
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1356
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: I want to be on a stage full of pillows

1357
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: and spend twenty minutes at the top of the hour

1358
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: of hour long special, twenty minutes telling everybody to shut up.

1359
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 4: I want to I want to see if I can

1360
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: do a twenty minutes.

1361
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 2: You have to be old though, shut up. I don't

1362
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 2: have long.

1363
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Well it's I mean, it's Almos, it's Joan, Like, why

1364
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 1: is it like there needs to be a gay guy?

1365
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: Joan Rivers like, well, you know there was.

1366
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 4: There was Rip Taylor ri I mean, I actually, I'm

1367
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 4: he always made me laugh. I know he had a

1368
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 4: very he had a short act, but I loved it.

1369
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 4: I've seen it several times, filmed in different places, and

1370
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 4: I saw him. I met him twice, just being a

1371
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: young gay in West Hollywood. I saw him once and

1372
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 4: I overheard him. The only thing I overheard him say

1373
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 4: was like, well, I find out we have to hurry

1374
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 4: or it'll be late for the show.

1375
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: And I was like, of course, that's like the random

1376
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: figure and Rip Taylor say, walking down the street.

1377
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 4: And then I saw him again, like two years later,

1378
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm like, this time, I have to

1379
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: say something. You can't just have God put Rip Taylor.

1380
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: In your life. You don't say something the second time.

1381
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 4: So I went up to him and he was at

1382
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: Hamburger habit, which I don't think still exists, across the

1383
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: street from the Mother Load and or the Abbey, and

1384
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 4: he was there, and I went up to him and

1385
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, mister Taylor, I am

1386
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: a big fan of your comedy, which was kind of

1387
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 4: an exaggeration, but what I was like, I am a

1388
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 4: big fan of your comedy.

1389
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 2: And he goes, couldn't quite hear that? Well, that's fun.

1390
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: Wait, I actually have This is my suggestion for who

1391
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:44,879
Speaker 1: the like gay male Joan Rivers is. It's Isaac Mrahi.

1392
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: Like it's like, it's literally like Isaac Musrahi on the

1393
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: on QVC. Sure have you seen that clip of where

1394
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what the moon is?

1395
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: No?

1396
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 4: What falls into a category of untrustworthy conspiracy.

1397
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: It's like, oh God, I wish I knew what it was.

1398
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 1: It was like someone's like, what's bigger the Earth or

1399
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: the Moon, and he's like, the moon, I mean it's huge. Well,

1400
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: I'll find a clip of what it actually is and

1401
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: we'll put it here.

1402
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: I love that color. That's such a happy, beautiful, rich It.

1403
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 5: Almost kind of looks like what the Earth looks like

1404
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 5: when you're a bazillion miles away.

1405
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,919
Speaker 2: From the planets. Yes, I just planet.

1406
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 5: From looking back at the planet Moon from the planet.

1407
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: The moon a star, the noo, The moon is a planet, dar.

1408
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: The sun is a star? Is the moon really a planet?

1409
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: The moon is a planet. Don't look at me like that.

1410
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: The sun is a star.

1411
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: Is the sun not a star? I don't know what

1412
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 2: the sun? The sun is star? The sun is? The

1413
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: sun is a star. The moon is not a planet.

1414
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: I know it. I knew it. You were trying to

1415
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: take me down that road.

1416
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 1: The moon is not a planet.

1417
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 2: If you're listening to me, google the moon someone.

1418
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 5: I can guarantee you someone's googling right now.

1419
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 2: The Moon. I know it's.

1420
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: Not a planet. What else is it if it's not

1421
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: a planet?

1422
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 2: Not I believe it's a star or something.

1423
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 5: It is not a Can you do that thing in

1424
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 5: grade school where you had to name the planets and

1425
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 5: there was Uranus, and there was Saturn and the one

1426
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 5: with the rings and that and then the Earth and.

1427
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 2: The moon is never in there.

1428
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Dude, it's not a planet. All right here, look this is.

1429
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what it is.

1430
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: Educated I'm exposed.

1431
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 2: Come on, it's a planet.

1432
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 1: Is blonde of mine?

1433
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: Could be real? Okay? The moon is what natural to

1434
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: live on it as it's a planet. That said, I

1435
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: don't know. No, I don't like that at all. I

1436
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 2: don't even know what that means.

1437
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: It is so charming and you're sort of like, yeah,

1438
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: like the emotional truth actually is that the moon is

1439
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: bigger than the Earth.

1440
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 2: Well.

1441
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: I also think Nathan Lane falls into this category, even

1442
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: though he's not a comedian, but uh he because one

1443
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 3: of my favorite pieces of media of the last year

1444
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 3: is him going on how Got Long Gone?

1445
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: Podcast? I don't know if I saw this.

1446
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 3: He just like like they're like two cool, straight guys,

1447
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: like very casual, and he's like Nathan Lane and they're

1448
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 3: like they're like.

1449
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: Eli does not get what's happened.

1450
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 3: He's like they're like okay, so like what do you

1451
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: look on your sandwich? Like what's what do you look at?

1452
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 3: And he's like, what is this? What this show is?

1453
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: You want me to talk about my sandwich, and like

1454
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: like just not having fun with it in a way

1455
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: that I was addicted to because he also has to

1456
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: be there for an hour or whatever.

1457
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: It's so juicy.

1458
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 3: And then they're like he's like being like really annoyed

1459
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: at everything, and then they're like, so tell us about the.

1460
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: Movie you're in and then he's like, oh, it's amazing,

1461
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like.

1462
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: That turn. He's like, now we're doing press, and it's

1463
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 3: like it's been pressed the whole time.

1464
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 2: Sweetie. I love that you.

1465
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 4: Want me to talk about the motion picture. I'm in sure,

1466
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 4: it's what it's such a funny idea. Okay, what's it called?

1467
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: How Long Gone? How Long Gone? Okay, I gotta see that. Yeah,

1468
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: it's it's you see.

1469
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: Okay. Any do we have any final thoughts on conspiracy theories.

1470
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: I'm like it's one of those topics that's so rich

1471
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: that I'm like, there's something obvious we're missing about what

1472
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: makes it straight?

1473
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1474
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: I think I did get self conscious, but we started

1475
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 3: getting into it.

1476
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, I think.

1477
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: If you're if you're if you've cast yourself against the mainstream. Yeah,

1478
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: there are a lot there, and a lot of these

1479
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 4: people have a chip on their shoulder where they haven't

1480
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 4: really like you know, oh, it's just gaze on TV

1481
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 4: and it's like, well, there's not many. There's actually not

1482
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 4: many of us if you count, and there's a lot

1483
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 4: more of us off TV where you can't there's not

1484
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 4: as many gate keepers. Like if you go to a

1485
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: comedy festival, there's more Gaze than there.

1486
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 2: Are the TV network shows.

1487
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 4: But uh, I mean, if you've cast yourself in that

1488
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 4: thing where it's like they and you start putting everything

1489
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 4: into like the day bucket.

1490
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good that's them. No, it really is

1491
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: us versus them and.

1492
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 4: And you, and you're less likely to know a large

1493
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: network of neighbors, in my opinion, exactly do it's people

1494
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 4: who've chosen like this is we're this is a hateful church,

1495
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 4: and we welcome people from all over this community to

1496
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 4: come here and be hateful. Yeah, it's so, I mean,

1497
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: I I yeah, I think there may there may be

1498
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: an an in group and an.

1499
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,520
Speaker 2: Out group thing where it's like people.

1500
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: Like me, and so I think they've I think they've

1501
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 4: taken over the narrative and maybe you know, they latch

1502
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 4: onto a couple of a couple of legitimate things that

1503
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: should be investigated or or are troubling things about a

1504
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: fucked up country, a fucked up pool, and you know what.

1505
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: Else I think it might be Like I think straight,

1506
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: the straight mentality has less patience for contradiction, and like

1507
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 1: it's like when they see that one thing and another

1508
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: thing can be true at the same time, the alarms

1509
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: go off and it's like, oh my god, hypocrisy. I

1510
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: have to expose it. Whereas I think growing up and

1511
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: feeling different in some way and understanding that not everything

1512
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: is gonna work out for you the way it is sold,

1513
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: it almost gives you like a more open minded view

1514
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: of like how a life could be and how a

1515
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: society could be. Sure, sure, sure, you know what I mean.

1516
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 4: You say, coming up with the disappointment of being gay,

1517
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: for example, Yeah, not only the.

1518
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: Disappointment, not disappointment like for okay you're yeah, like if

1519
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: you and also just being like, okay, So the things

1520
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: that I was told everyone should have, I'm inherently not

1521
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: gonna have some of them. But that's all. But that

1522
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean there's a conspiracy or that doesn't mean that

1523
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm doomed to die, or that doesn't mean

1524
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: that I'm doomed to be unhappy. It just means like

1525
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: I have to be on my feet and like figure

1526
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: out the best way to accommodate this imperfect world. Whereas

1527
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: if you don't deal with that early on, and then suddenly,

1528
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: for the first time at age twenty seven, you see

1529
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: that something is contradictory, you're like, well, I have to

1530
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: call the police.

1531
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: Ah, totally lamp up. Until this point, everything was from

1532
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: by the book going correct.

1533
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, I think what it is is like.

1534
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: It must be Satan exactly.

1535
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: Like it's like if you see a contradiction, it can't

1536
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: immediately break your brain. It has to be just like

1537
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: the first step of an inquiry. And then you're like, okay,

1538
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: so this doesn't quite add up. Let's see what could

1539
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: it be? What are the what are the three most

1540
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: likely explanations for it? And then how do we go

1541
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: from there? Whereas the conspiracy mind.

1542
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: Your David Hume, the investigation is like.

1543
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sensing something is wrong. It must be the cabal.

1544
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: It must be like something bigger that they're not telling.

1545
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: Well, I think what we really need is the government

1546
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: needs the president. Biden in his last stages of being president,

1547
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 3: needs to come out and say, Okay, here's everything that

1548
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 3: we've done, Here's where it's true, here's the stuff that

1549
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: we've been up to over.

1550
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: The last I think the strongest thing, because you like

1551
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: one of the what like, the only legitimate thing that

1552
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: Trump wanted to do was to release the all the

1553
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: Kennedy assassination documents, and he was thwarted.

1554
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 4: And that's the old literally the only good thing he

1555
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 4: wanted to do. The strongest move Biden could beat could

1556
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 4: do it would be like, oh, by the way, I'm

1557
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 4: gonna release all the Come on, pal, we're gonna.

1558
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 3: Really saw those JFK now because if he was like,

1559
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 3: I mean completely honest, now you can't say those conspiracies

1560
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 3: because we told you everything.

1561
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 2: We're gonna let it all fly. We need, that would

1562
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 2: be a really strong foot because.

1563
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: Then it would be like, Okay, now we don't have

1564
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 3: conspiracies because now we know which ones are true, which.

1565
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: It would be so incredible if they were just like, yeah,

1566
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 1: we're gonna just open source all CIA and FBI files. Okay, okay,

1567
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: you guys, like enough is enough, Like they're literally.

1568
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm coming out as as bad I've been bad.

1569
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 4: Or you know, literally be like you could you could

1570
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 4: if they fight back at you, you'd be like, oh, okay,

1571
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 4: anything before nineteen eighty is open now and not not classic.

1572
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay.

1573
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: I do think that should be the case, like, I

1574
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: because that's what happened with the Kennedy Files, right, Like

1575
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: I think that. I think basically, after let's say thirty years,

1576
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: everything should be fair game.

1577
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 4: Right, And I don't care if there's some old guy

1578
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 4: that doesn't want to be prosecuted for war crimes or murder.

1579
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's not a good argument for keeping it.

1580
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: It's not a good argument. And by the way, at

1581
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: that point, at least we've given him those thirty years

1582
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: of innocence, so he'd be appreciated when he's exactly like

1583
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: he had thirty years to buy a house somewhere cool.

1584
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: It's like now he's eighty seven, Like, let's put him

1585
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: in jail for like three years. Yeah, but why would

1586
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 1: you just a good compromise?

1587
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: Why would you murder and want to get away? Oh

1588
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: right away? I always forget about that.

1589
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 4: I do think we could make more of an effort

1590
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 4: of having gay centric, queer centered conspiracy theories.

1591
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: And let's be creative about it.

1592
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 4: Let's be okay, let's like, it's a conspiracy that they

1593
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,759
Speaker 4: disfavored gay sex in the last two thousand years because

1594
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 4: two thousand years ago everyone was gay or bisexual and.

1595
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:11,640
Speaker 2: Now they're not. That's a conspiracy.

1596
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 4: It's a satanic it's a satanic corruption of the human

1597
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 4: of the experience.

1598
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 2: We should be we should be.

1599
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: Well, I do have such idea that, like, yeah, I

1600
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: do like the idea that homophobia is not something naturally

1601
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: occurring in society, Like it's not something that just like

1602
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: they're doing inherently feel a little gross if they see

1603
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: two men kissing. I would love a conspiracy where like

1604
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: that was actually an idea that was planted specifically.

1605
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: We have the documents.

1606
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 4: It goes back, it goes back to Richard Nixon, it

1607
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 4: goes back to the next send administration.

1608
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,759
Speaker 2: We have the documents right here.

1609
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 4: They're male sex is biologically, biologically always going to happen

1610
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: in every generation.

1611
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to make it seem less hot. Yeah,

1612
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 3: because because of population. It's like how abortion did not

1613
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: was not like a huge it became an issue.

1614
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like they just decided we're making this

1615
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: an issue specifically for evangelical and Catholic voters.

1616
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is something that's happening on a local level

1617
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles now, is that they're making bike lanes

1618
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 4: anti bike lanes is now a right wing local issue

1619
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles where they're like fuck these woke bike

1620
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 4: lane because it's they're just like, we need something else

1621
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 4: to talk about.

1622
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: God, I hate it. Wait, should we do our final segment?

1623
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wait, yes, I wanted to say a classic gay

1624
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory is the concept of industry plants.

1625
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's true.

1626
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: So that's I just wanted to end on that amazing note.

1627
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 3: Like people, what is an industry Like people will be

1628
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 3: like Sabrina Carpenter is an industry plant.

1629
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: It's like they like, success is not organic. It's decided exactly,

1630
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: Like someone at Virgin Records was like, this is going

1631
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: to be the next blonde girl, and everyone better fall

1632
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: in line otherwise we are going to start assassinations. And

1633
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 1: again it's kind of it's kind of narrowly true.

1634
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's something globally true and.

1635
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 2: No one has divine power.

1636
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: Well, it also has to take like it has to take. True,

1637
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: it does have to take. You're right, But I think

1638
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 1: that's the thing with like, you know, the musician her.

1639
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone says she's an industry plant.

1640
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: Everyone says she's an industry plant because it never actually took.

1641
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: I don't none of us know anyone who in their

1642
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: free time listens to HER's music, right, and yet she

1643
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: is has fully egotted and is at every award show

1644
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: and is, like, you know, I don't know, being given

1645
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

1646
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: Wouldn't an industry plant like want money, Like, wouldn't they

1647
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: want like someone like if her isn't making money, doesn't

1648
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 3: always wouldn't they be like, well, we need a new

1649
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 3: industry plant that will actually make us more money. That's

1650
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: what confuses me about the industry plant conversation.

1651
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, I see they would always need someone to

1652
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: play the role.

1653
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 3: Well if they're like industry planting this person her, and

1654
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: then they're like, okay, so we've we've gotten her the Oscar,

1655
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 3: the Grammy, like we've done all this for her, but

1656
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 3: but it's still not taking in a general audience, like

1657
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 3: we should probably fire her.

1658
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mad for the industry. Ultimately, they still want

1659
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: to make money.

1660
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: Should Joe biden her, Let's get it, let's get a

1661
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 4: better we need a better planting, we need a better plant.

1662
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 4: Then they do that from time to time, and that's

1663
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 4: when they're like, well, that's when they're like, well they

1664
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 4: chewed them up and discarded them.

1665
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: Sure, that's what they did to Britney Spears.

1666
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 4: She was their plant for a while and then they

1667
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 4: had enough, bit so they sped her around.

1668
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. They maybe that's it, maybe, which is also true.

1669
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: Maybe also true.

1670
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe it's that there are industry plants, but they

1671
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 3: the people deciding, never take into account how gay people

1672
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 3: get fanatic about stuff. So it's like they were like,

1673
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 3: we are going to take Britney Spears, make her our

1674
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 3: little puppet, and then discard her. But then gay people

1675
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 3: are like, no, we're gonna keep her alive forever, Like

1676
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: we're going to worship this woman till the day she

1677
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: is dead.

1678
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: And there was never supposed to happen, right, right, she's

1679
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: shut down the system. She's too popular. Yeah, its flying.

1680
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: It's like they're resisting.

1681
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 4: They're resisting someone in the control center who's like, it's

1682
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 4: there's no way to stop her.

1683
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: So that's my that's my theory.

1684
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 4: I do think that, uh, securing the full Egot would

1685
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 4: be a fantastic Bond villain like goal.

1686
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Oh wait, that's great.

1687
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 2: They shouldn't buy the Grammy the Oscar.

1688
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: Okay, there should be a bond. That's that's literally like

1689
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: a crazed like It's like it's Harry finally lost it

1690
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: and she's like, okay, well you guys aren't going to

1691
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: buy my album, I'll fucking show you, and then by

1692
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: force she wants to get herself to Egot.

1693
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 2: It's Theater of Blood.

1694
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 4: The Vincent Price movie meets like Goldfinger, where it's like

1695
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 4: where it's like the Academy.

1696
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: If everyone is deceased in a tragic accident, the Oscar

1697
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: will go to the only member who survives.

1698
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: Wait, James is and I am in good standing, mister Bond.

1699
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: You'll never get away with it. Wow wow, I mean.

1700
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: And actually it needs to be It's it can't be

1701
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: a can't be Katy Perry. It needs to be a

1702
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 1: gay man, like a sort of Elton John esque gay man. Yes,

1703
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: but unlike Elton John, he never got the recognition he deserved,

1704
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: and he's seeing all these young girls.

1705
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: Yes, just like just underappreciate. I mean, this is really

1706
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 4: writing my own story. Yes, he's and he thought he

1707
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: thought he was in he was like the he was

1708
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 4: like the gay performer in the Nightgown.

1709
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: Yes, he was like, it didn't get the time, And

1710
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: this is the role you're gonna age in. This is

1711
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 1: literally his perfect This.

1712
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,560
Speaker 4: Is give me, this is your give me twelve years,

1713
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 4: twelve years.

1714
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: It might be my Lydio tar, thank you, And it's

1715
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: gonna be and it's gonna be called and guess what,

1716
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be called out to Pasture.

1717
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: And that's the name of the film of the Bond movie,

1718
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: of the Bond movie. Hey so because the guy's name

1719
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 2: is Reginald past Yeah, don and they're like pasture.

1720
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: And then Pasta.

1721
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Sabrina Carpenter.

1722
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, his long suffering best you know women best friend

1723
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: is like, reg I don't even recognize you anymore. And

1724
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: then you're ego.

1725
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: His ego is almost as large as his He got wow. Wow,

1726
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to I'm trying to come up

1727
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: with that would have.

1728
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 1: To maybe this isn't He has a tony so all

1729
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: he needs is an ego.

1730
01:24:54,680 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 4: Oh, that's what's missing. Wow, or he have the ego

1731
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 4: mister Bond.

1732
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: That I require.

1733
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a musical Bond movie.

1734
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 4: And he has there's some apparatus like in Moonraker where

1735
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 4: he's like climbing up one hundred foot ladder. You know,

1736
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 4: I love that Moonaker is not a good movie, but

1737
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 4: I love at the end of it that there's like

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01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 4: there's like he's climbing up the ladder to a rocket,

1739
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: like it's there's no way you can win, mister Bond.

1740
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 4: I've always woned that phase of my career and grand plot.

1741
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: Well, I believe in it. I think it's coming. Well,

1742
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: then that's they opened that.

1743
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: They opened the envelope at the Oscars and it's a

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01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: severed finger. Okay, we have to do our final segment

1745
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: because we're keeping everyone at iHeart Studios in both coasts

1746
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,839
Speaker 1: prisoners our Grand Plan of being Gay podcast.

1747
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 4: Will Ferrell is out there being like I good believe,

1748
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 4: oh shit, I believe for taking this law.

1749
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really wants to get in here and get recording. Okay.

1750
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,640
Speaker 3: Our final segment is called shout Outs and James. In

1751
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 3: this segment, we've paid homash to the Grand Straight tradition.

1752
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: Of the radio shout out.

1753
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: We shout out people, place, thing, idea, anything that we're

1754
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: enjoying in the style of you know, imagine two thousand

1755
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: and one year at TRL shouting out to your squad

1756
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 3: back home. We always make them up. George and I

1757
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: will go first.

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01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: Sure, George, I do have one. Okay, go what's up

1759
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: freak souses and perpets around the globe.

1760
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 3: I want to give a huge shout out to the

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01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 3: FKA Twig song and video Useexua. I have been an

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01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: FKA Twigs fan for a long long time. This girl

1763
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: has it all, and I was a little bit worried

1764
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 3: about her in the last five years because she seemed

1765
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: like maybe didn't have it all. And then she popped

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01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 3: back on the scene with you Sexua, and I am

1767
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 3: in absolute heaven. I watched this music video, I want

1768
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: to say, twenty times in the last week.

1769
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: I cannot get enough. I said, oh my god, it's

1770
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: seven minutes long. Oh brother, and then.

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01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 3: I said that it felt like two minutes. I want

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,680
Speaker 3: to watch it one more time. I want to watch

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01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: it one more time. I want to watch it one

1774
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 3: more time. It's a song that shouldn't get stuck in

1775
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 3: your head, and yet it's stuck in my head. And

1776
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 3: it ends with a title card that's very chromatica style

1777
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 3: where it's like, you sexually is a state of being

1778
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 3: a state of higher presence, a state of humanity that

1779
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 3: is beyond that which we can ever conceive. And I

1780
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 3: was like, this girl is incredible. She is having so

1781
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 3: much fun. And God, I love when people can really dance.

1782
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 3: Oh and I just love I love FK Twigs shout

1783
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 3: out whoo whoo.

1784
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: When I first saw that it was called Yousexua, as

1785
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: though it was beamed into my brain without thinking, my

1786
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: first thought was you sexua spit on that bank.

1787
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: Have you seen the video, George, It's incredible? Oh, I

1789
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 1: was so. It actually really reminds me of like peak

1790
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 1: Pitchfork era twenty ten's when of a music video. Sorry,

1791
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: not the peak. I understand Peak Pitchfork era was before that,

1792
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: but I mean like that sort of like twenty twenty

1793
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:17,919
Speaker 1: tens era when music mattered li everything wasn't on Spotify

1794
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: and artists would get one fifteenth of a cent.

1795
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: No, she's really got it. I'm addicted to her.

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01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to decide it. All right, all right,

1797
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 1: I'll go.

1798
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I'll go.

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01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: What's up, cinephiles out there, letterbox users, it's your boy, George.

1800
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: And I have to give a shout out to a

1801
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: film that I have known. This is a film since

1802
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: I was a teenager. I said, this is a movie

1803
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: for me, but somehow I resisted watching it for twenty

1804
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: full years. I don't know why. Maybe I thought it

1805
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: would be too meaningful if I watched it at an

1806
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: impressionable age. And I finally hit play on it last night.

1807
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: And that film is Paul Thomas Anderson's Punch Drunk Love,

1808
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 1: featuring a once in a lifetime performance from mister Adam Sandler,

1809
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 1: and I would say, talk about a tour de farce peace.

1810
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: This is a absolute for defarce on all levels. It

1811
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 1: made me so obviously I loved it, but I know

1812
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: for a fact that I would have loved it even

1813
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: more when I was thirteen years old. And it makes

1814
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: me so upset that I will never get to have

1815
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: that experience. I want to go back in time and

1816
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: watch it and have it define my definition of define

1817
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: my vision of love for the rest of time. I

1818
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: wanted to define my sense of humor. I want to

1819
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: I want to relive a life where I'm quoting it

1820
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: constantly at parties. And now I'm merely a gay guy

1821
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 1: in my thirties who watched Pun Trunk Love for the

1822
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: first time. Is there anything more embarrassing? I invite you

1823
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: to brainstory.

1824
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think not.

1825
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 3: I think I'm about to be the same guy. I've

1826
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 3: never seen it and I'm gonna watch it.

1827
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta you gotta watch it.

1828
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 2: It just.

1829
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 1: You know that Paul tamas Anderson knows what he's doing, folks,

1830
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: And that's all I have to say about that.

1831
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 3: Thank you, Wow, beautiful James. Anything anything you want?

1832
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up? What's up? I want to get what's up? Everybody?

1833
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Shout out to Griffith Park Urban park, largest urban park

1834
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 2: in the country. We see you. We see you from

1835
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: as far away as Culver City. Thank you. We read

1836
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: your sign.

1837
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 4: You've gotten through heat wave season, You've gotten through fire season.

1838
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: It's fall season.

1839
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,839
Speaker 4: We're about to be hiking, yes, with shirts, without shirts,

1840
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 4: shirtless hiking.

1841
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: What up? We're in bloom soon.

1842
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 4: Toyon Canyon represent the secret airship blimp landing pad in

1843
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 4: the back.

1844
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: It's never used. What we see you and we love you.

1845
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 2: Mount Hollywood, Mount Lee the.

1846
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 6: Observatory What's Up stargazing not just from the main telescopes

1847
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 6: inside of the cones, but junior scientists outside with their

1848
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 6: astronomy telescopes lining up. What's up statues are the greatest

1849
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 6: atronomers Newton, what's up?

1850
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 2: Rocketeer? Thank you? Jeans t Whooo wow. That was powerful.

1851
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 3: Actually got me excited for fall because, you know, as

1852
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 3: someone who's new here, I'm sort of like, what's the point.

1853
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 2: You really?

1854
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 4: Los Angeles is you know the kind of person who's

1855
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 4: so wise that it causes them physical pain. Yes, yeah,

1856
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 4: Los Angeles is the place where it truly.

1857
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Comes into bloom in the autumn. But you really, you've

1858
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 2: truly you've got to of course you're Griffith Park, but

1859
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 2: you've really got to get out to the Tribec Wilderness.

1860
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Have you been. Oh no, I haven't come to Brentwood, Darling.

1861
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: Come to Brentwood. Look, you'll never look. There's a gate

1862
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hill. If you can get

1863
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,879
Speaker 2: through it, come to brent.

1864
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 3: If you can get through it. Well, James, this has

1865
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 3: been such a treat. Thank you so much for doing

1866
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 3: the podcast.

1867
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 4: You I feel like I feel like I've had more

1868
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 4: fun here than the last year.

1869
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: And thank you, and we will see you in Brentwood.

1870
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: And please tell everyone where they can watch your special.

1871
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Path of Most Resistance.

1872
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 4: Path of Most Resistance is my first film stand up special.

1873
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 4: It's available now on YouTube streaming through eight hundred pound

1874
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 4: Gorilla's YouTube page, and it's also on their website if

1875
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 4: you want to pay to watch it and download it.

1876
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 4: It's on eight hundred pund gorilla dot com, eight hundred

1877
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 4: pound Gorilla Media dot com.

1878
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that's it.

1879
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 4: It's also on my website jamsodomain dot com and you

1880
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 4: can listen to it or watch it many other places.

1881
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 4: You can listen to it as an album anywhere you

1882
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 4: would do that. Path of Most Resistance. It's gonna be

1883
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 4: funny for about two or three more months, so and

1884
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 4: then it's it all really topics extremely data.

1885
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's like isn't isn't July weird?

1886
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 4: So listen to it now. Listen to it now, because

1887
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 4: in two or three months it's not You've missed the chance.

1888
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about how Joe Biden is too old

1889
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: and should drop out.

1890
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 2: We gotta get Harris out, get that Biden back yet. Okay,

1891
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 2: well thanks again and bye, thank you James, Bye bye

1892
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 2: bye podcast.

1893
01:32:56,320 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 1: And now want more? Subscribe to our Patreon for two

1894
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: extra episodes a month, discord access and more by heading

1895
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: to patreon dot com. Slash Stradio Lab.

1896
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 3: And for all our visual learners, free full length video

1897
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 3: episodes are available on our YouTube.

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01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Now get back to work.