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Speaker 3: Man Thursday morning, November seventh, twenty twenty four is the
Speaker 3: Beating the Book podcast, week number ten in the National
Speaker 3: Football League. It's Gil Alexander back from a week away,
Speaker 3: and let me just start by saying a big thank
Speaker 3: you too, Todd Wish, Nevin will Hill, pillars of this show. Todd,
Speaker 3: you were the hosts, and I got one tweet that
Speaker 3: stood above all that said you were quote strangely professional
Speaker 3: unquote thank you. I think you oddly professional. I thought
Speaker 3: it was oddly, but then I looked yesterday I think
Speaker 3: it said strange. Either way, the person was very surprised
Speaker 3: how professional you were, Todd. And my question to you is,
Speaker 3: first of all, after saying thank you, is why can't
Speaker 3: you be this way every week?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll answer that because I felt my very professional
Speaker 4: job was done at the sake of entertainment. And if
Speaker 4: you'd like your podcast to be entertaining, I'll continue to
Speaker 4: be entertaining. But if you'd like me to go to
Speaker 4: more professional, I'll keep it much less entertaining and much
Speaker 4: more professional.
Speaker 2: Mister Alexandra, throw it back to you.
Speaker 3: So what I heard there is you're unable to do
Speaker 3: both because you're not really that talented enough to do both.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 5: That is correct.
Speaker 4: You can be professional or you can be entertaining. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you want professional, that's fine, we have that with you.
Speaker 4: You're professional. Now we also need to mix in spices
Speaker 4: with entertainment.
Speaker 3: So I'm not entertaining, that's what you're saying. I'm only
Speaker 3: doing one of them. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying it's hard to be entertaining and professional
Speaker 4: at the same time. It has something to do with
Speaker 4: you personally. It's not a personal thing. I don't know
Speaker 4: why I had us to get so personal. We're talking
Speaker 4: about ways of broadcasting. If I have to explain this
Speaker 4: to the viewer me to the podcast business. I know
Speaker 4: a guy who has should have been more podcast.
Speaker 2: Sure, it's okay, but you know it could be more
Speaker 2: entertaining only okay.
Speaker 3: Will Todd wishneb had t Wishnev on Twitter, who was
Speaker 3: an oddly or strangely professional host of this show yesterday
Speaker 3: last week, which by the way, I think he went
Speaker 3: three and oh and so he's like super excited talk
Speaker 3: about records.
Speaker 2: Will Hill should have been more podcasts.
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 2: I think Todd just said.
Speaker 6: That's a fair assessment. I man, second week in a row,
Speaker 6: I probably should have had a three, and now I
Speaker 6: had my Seattle. Not only did they get zero points
Speaker 6: with three trips in the red zone, but they got
Speaker 6: negative seven points with three trips in the red zone
Speaker 6: because on one of was a pick six. Last week
Speaker 6: I had Bryce Youngo ninety eight yards and like thelast
Speaker 6: two minutes to get me a push, so to a
Speaker 6: couple two and ones in a row. I'm trying to
Speaker 6: trying to call back here, but I'll just.
Speaker 5: Keep going here.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to that momentarily.
Speaker 3: Our guest this week coming back for his uh I
Speaker 3: hope is his annual appearance that it seems like uh
Speaker 3: actually played the game.
Speaker 2: Aeric Oseel used to say, I never played the game.
Speaker 2: This guy actually played.
Speaker 3: Was a champion and national champion at the University of
Speaker 3: Colorado back in the day, and then played for the
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks, and the Atlanta Falcons, where,
Speaker 3: of course, he is most famous for losing to the
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one Washington Redskins, the greatest team of all time.
Speaker 2: Mike Richard, our friend. How you doing, Pritch?
Speaker 5: I'm great.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm most famous for that, but
Speaker 7: Brett Farr certainly.
Speaker 5: Made name for himself by that one.
Speaker 4: And by the way, was not an unprofessed Pritch. Was
Speaker 4: that not an unprofessional comment by Gil?
Speaker 5: Quite very professional.
Speaker 2: Interest in a good movies.
Speaker 6: Colorado team is flying high the Nuggets last night, so
Speaker 6: we got a prenching, a good news. Birthday was last week.
Speaker 6: We got preching in a good mood here.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just love happy to be here.
Speaker 3: I just love to Pritch and I were in the
Speaker 3: same building twice that year, in nineteen ninety one at RFK,
Speaker 3: first of which again Mark Rippin threw six touchdown passes.
Speaker 3: That was the game where Brett far through his first
Speaker 3: pick ever Barry Bonds.
Speaker 5: I heard it had three touchdowns in that game.
Speaker 3: No, you did not pick six to Andre Collins and
Speaker 3: then of course, so that was a tighter game. Thank
Speaker 3: you for doing this, Pitch. I really appreciate it. By
Speaker 3: the way, what about your Buffalo six and two? And
Speaker 3: kind of after last year, dare we say flying under
Speaker 3: the radar this year?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think so nobody expected this.
Speaker 7: You know, I hit the over last year with the
Speaker 7: four wins, that was a sweat, to be honest with you,
Speaker 7: but it was an exciting slate. But you know, this year,
Speaker 7: with the influx of talent, you know, only question mark
Speaker 7: I had on the team, Gil is will the coaches
Speaker 7: be able to to help these guys get better?
Speaker 5: And certainly they have.
Speaker 7: I mean they got two premium players, actually they got
Speaker 7: about they got about ten premium players.
Speaker 5: It's going to get drafted.
Speaker 7: But in terms of the overall roster, they still needed
Speaker 7: to develop that right and we've seen that and we
Speaker 7: pulled out some wins. We've been resilient and certainly I
Speaker 7: think coach prom has done a great job.
Speaker 2: Is your friend coach Brian gonna leave once your Door
Speaker 2: graduates this year? Who goes the Pros? And Travis Hunter
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: That's a good question. I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I think he's going to give it one more year
Speaker 7: after because everybody is anticipating that he's going to leave.
Speaker 7: He's going to get some kind of offer, right, it's
Speaker 7: going to blow him away. He's going to chase that
Speaker 7: or is he going to support your Door and wherever
Speaker 7: he goes as a quarterback in the National Football League.
Speaker 7: There's all kinds of speculations, but he's got a great
Speaker 7: relationship with Brick George are a d and I know
Speaker 7: the contract was what four years with a fifth year option,
Speaker 7: So I think he'll give.
Speaker 5: It one more year.
Speaker 7: From a commitment standpoint, he's approaching sixty years old. I
Speaker 7: expect him to retire. And it's international football. He's a
Speaker 7: grandfather now too, so uh, you know, if you know,
Speaker 7: if you know Dion Sanders at all man, he's a
Speaker 7: family man, to be honest with you first before everything else.
Speaker 2: Six and two Colorado. Who are they playing this week again?
Speaker 5: Texas Texas Texas?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they should be five and three if we're going
Speaker 4: to be fair that one.
Speaker 5: You know, that's some professional right there.
Speaker 2: Like that, Thank you, Britch.
Speaker 5: Rich wasn't up late when they hit the hell Mary
Speaker 5: against uh I forget who, but.
Speaker 6: But they're lost in Kansas. They could have won that game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I watched. They could have been Kansas State, you know.
Speaker 7: So we go back to six and towns Baylor.
Speaker 5: I think I'll take it back, Rich, Pritch, I take it, Pritch,
Speaker 5: I take it back. I was just trying to be entertaining. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's right there, we go it.
Speaker 2: To be entertaining everything Todd does so entertaining. Todd one
Speaker 2: of the records from last week.
Speaker 8: Well, I'll entertain you with some records here, Gilly, if
Speaker 8: that's your real name, Gilly with a ho hum two
Speaker 8: in one Brown's not a very good pick a Raven
Speaker 8: solid and Arizona solid.
Speaker 4: And by the way, all three of us had Arizona
Speaker 4: last week. First time ever we all three had the
Speaker 4: same thing and it won. Usually it's the kiss of death. Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: Gilly lost his teaser, so he goes to fourteen, twelve
Speaker 4: and one and picks and two and seven on teasers.
Speaker 4: He probably will pick it up sooner or later. In
Speaker 4: the teaser area, Willie went two and one again Seattle
Speaker 4: was his miss uh and he lost. He tied his
Speaker 4: teaser with Texans plus eight. So he goes to eleven
Speaker 4: six and one and three five and one on the teasers.
Speaker 4: I had his records. What's his record?
Speaker 2: Move on?
Speaker 6: He said, eleven siiction and one.
Speaker 5: It works.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry too, I'm sorry eleven eleven.
Speaker 5: I messed up.
Speaker 2: It should be ten sixteen and one, ten sixteen and one.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the professionalism, ten sixteen and one now. I,
Speaker 4: on the other hand, had what we just call a
Speaker 4: typical week three and oh over Giants Arizona and the
Speaker 4: Vikings and another teaser win to move to sixteen and
Speaker 4: eleven and four and five on teasers.
Speaker 5: I knew we would catch up there on teasers. Unfortunately, Pritch,
Speaker 5: you better do well this week.
Speaker 4: Our guest has been taking on oil oh and three
Speaker 4: last week oh and three, the week before the guest
Speaker 4: is twelve fourteen and one, but five and four on teasers, So.
Speaker 2: Pritch that the pressure is on.
Speaker 7: Okay, right, thank you very much. Just a great week
Speaker 7: for me, then, I guess, huh.
Speaker 2: I'm a game and a half behind you. Game and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 5: What we would also like to call a gigantic moat.
Speaker 3: You were up by about seven billion games earlier in
Speaker 3: the season, and I have just chip chip.
Speaker 5: You're chipping away. Very nice job.
Speaker 4: Can we talk very quickly about the dummies of the week.
Speaker 4: I want to nominate the dummies of the week.
Speaker 2: Did you need me to answer that or you're just
Speaker 2: gonna motor boat over again?
Speaker 5: Sure you can. Sorry, Okay, I say that we make it.
Speaker 4: The people who think that as gigundies dogs late in
Speaker 4: the game when they tie it, by the way, thankfully
Speaker 4: they did.
Speaker 5: Thankfully they did it.
Speaker 4: I'll say thank you to Todd Bowles because I had
Speaker 4: minus three and plus seven and a half in the
Speaker 4: Chiefs in the Chiefs game and he ties the game
Speaker 4: or twenty four to twenty three in the rain. First
Speaker 4: of all, it's not guaranteed you're going to make an
Speaker 4: extra point in the rain. That's number one. But number two,
Speaker 4: he decides not to go for two. Now, I'm going
Speaker 4: to do some basic math with you, guys. It may
Speaker 4: be entertaining a two point conversion is worth what about
Speaker 4: a fifty percent play maybe if you're Tampa in the
Speaker 4: rain of forty five percent play, It's somewhere in the
Speaker 4: neighborhood of forty five to fifty percent play. Maybe the
Speaker 4: Chiefs have a good defense.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Anyways, let's just call it forty five percent. Now, you
Speaker 4: also could miss the extra point, which is also takes
Speaker 4: off about seven percent right there. But if you go
Speaker 4: to if you kick the extra point and go to overtime,
Speaker 4: like the old school way of doing things, now you
Speaker 4: are probably a huge.
Speaker 5: Dog in that game.
Speaker 4: I didn't look at what the money line was, will
Speaker 4: Did you see the money line at that point when
Speaker 4: they were probably minus one eighty I would think at
Speaker 4: least because the Chiefs pregame were in the minus what
Speaker 4: two eighty to a three hundred range, they had to Yeah,
Speaker 4: the money line when the Chiefs won the toss was
Speaker 4: minus two as before the toss. Yeah, okay, because obviously
Speaker 4: don't know you're going to lose the toss. But what
Speaker 4: I'm saying is, let's say before the toss, that's what mine.
Speaker 4: It's got to be at least minus one eighty. So
Speaker 4: right there, it's telling you very clearly you have to
Speaker 4: go for two. Now, the same thing, I'm not as
Speaker 4: upset said about it in Seattle because the teams are
Speaker 4: somewhat even and New England probably should have done it
Speaker 4: as well when they got that miracle touchdown. Do you
Speaker 4: guys agree at least two out of three of them.
Speaker 5: Should have gone for them?
Speaker 2: The Todd Bowles one all. The only sentence that I
Speaker 2: can come up with to accurately describe my feeling about
Speaker 2: it is do you want to play more football against
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes or not?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And the answer ought to be no. Like if you
Speaker 3: said to Todd Bowles before the game. And I love
Speaker 3: Todd Bowles, He's a champion with the Washington football team
Speaker 3: back in the day Skins. He should have said to
Speaker 3: himself if I had said to him before the game, Hey, Todd,
Speaker 3: the whole game, we're going to race the game. You
Speaker 3: have one play from the two yard line. You either
Speaker 3: win or lose depending on the outcome of that play.
Speaker 3: Do you prefer that over playing sixty minutes of football
Speaker 3: against Patrick Mahomes? He would have said yes, one hundred
Speaker 3: times out of one hundred, right, the same as go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The only thing is there was twenty seven seconds. I
Speaker 6: think if you get it, you're making Mahomes now in
Speaker 6: four down territory, you're making you more aggressive. I agree,
Speaker 6: I would have gone for two. To me, the much
Speaker 6: bigger issue, the much bigger mistake was calling the time
Speaker 6: out with thirty second out. You got to get that
Speaker 6: to the sweet spot of like twelve fifteen eighties because
Speaker 6: you're just you're saving more time for Mahomes. You're on
Speaker 6: the one yard line. You're not going to run out
Speaker 6: of time there. And maybe Kansas City would have called
Speaker 6: the time out anyway. I think they were going to.
Speaker 6: But I thought that was the big mistake, is calling
Speaker 6: time out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a hold on the go ahead.
Speaker 7: You know, I was just going to say remain aggressive
Speaker 7: that on that drive because you know, you think about
Speaker 7: Baker and how he's playing that guy twenty three touchdown
Speaker 7: pass so far this year. Uh, he's actually elevated the
Speaker 7: players on the roster that's around him right now without
Speaker 7: Mike Evans.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: And so you know, the element of surprise too was
Speaker 7: with Tampa. Like your two point play playbook, there's maybe
Speaker 7: seven solid plays in there, right, and you work on
Speaker 7: about four or five of them each and every week.
Speaker 7: So the element of the prize was there. I mean
Speaker 7: Kansas City, it's like Kansas City went in the Super
Speaker 7: Bowl with Hardman last year out here in Vegas. I mean,
Speaker 7: the element of surprise was still there for Tampa Bay
Speaker 7: as well as the aggressive nature, so I thought they
Speaker 7: should have went for as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, because there's someone on.
Speaker 3: Vson who took the stance that you know, anybody who
Speaker 3: says that he should have gone for two hasn't been
Speaker 3: in a locker room or hasn't worn a jockstrap. You
Speaker 3: have been in a locker room, and you have worn
Speaker 3: a jockstrap. Their point was, oh, you have to face
Speaker 3: the team if you go for two and you miss it.
Speaker 3: That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 7: Right, yeahs, that's pretty dumb. I mean, yeah, I think
Speaker 7: you said it best. Why face Patrick Mahomes for another quarter?
Speaker 7: I mean that game and how it played out. As
Speaker 7: a head coach, you hadn't stopped Kansas City in the
Speaker 7: red zone all game. I mean they were perfect in
Speaker 7: the red zone. And by the way, Tampa was perfect
Speaker 7: in the red zone too, right, So you got to
Speaker 7: feel that out. I think managing the game, as you
Speaker 7: call a defense, that's tough to do. I mean, I
Speaker 7: think that the most talented guys are head coaches and
Speaker 7: play callers at the same time. But I would rather
Speaker 7: have a head coach take off that headset and manage
Speaker 7: the game and understand the situations and the way that
Speaker 7: Baker went down the field, the confidence that they had,
Speaker 7: the energy that they were playing with. Just go ahead
Speaker 7: and solidify a victory right there with the two point conversion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to Will's point, because I did a whole
Speaker 3: thing on this on the radio sete where it's like,
Speaker 3: I agree with you, Will, I think the bigger issue
Speaker 3: was calling the time out at thirty because obviously we
Speaker 3: have no evidence to suggest that Patrick Mahomes can matriculate
Speaker 3: the ball down the field quickly, right, We can't think
Speaker 3: of any games where that happened. So maybe that did
Speaker 3: change it a little bit by making the first gaff.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was two wrongs don't make it right. But
Speaker 3: I will say this also, this is not for anybody
Speaker 3: listening who thinks this is sort of armchair quarterbacking. As
Speaker 3: they were matriculating, As the Bucks were matriculating the ball
Speaker 3: down the field. Remember I texted the group, I'm like,
Speaker 3: are they going to go for two?
Speaker 2: Todd was the first one of me. He's like, oh, absolutely,
Speaker 2: they're going for two right, like, by the way question, and.
Speaker 4: I knew they were going to do it just to
Speaker 4: screw my middle chance. I thought, they know I have
Speaker 4: Keeps minus three, they know I have Tampa plus seven
Speaker 4: and a half. They're not going to let this happen
Speaker 4: so I can get a middle So of course they're
Speaker 4: going to go for two.
Speaker 6: And by the way, different chat I was to say,
Speaker 6: it must have been a different chat. I didn't think
Speaker 6: he was going to go for it. Bulls is just
Speaker 6: known for being very conservative.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just saying it was obvious that you should
Speaker 5: to me go for two. And by the way, I
Speaker 5: didn't want him to go for two. I was hoping
Speaker 5: that he would kick. When he kicked the extra point,
Speaker 5: I was overjoyed. I couldn't believe that he actually did it,
Speaker 5: but I was just like, how could you not?
Speaker 4: And by the way, twenty seven seconds in a pouring
Speaker 4: By the way, I agree with you one hundred percent
Speaker 4: of the time out, but even twenty seven seconds with
Speaker 4: them in the pouring rain is a different story.
Speaker 5: Mahomes, I know made it.
Speaker 4: In thirteen seconds in the playoffs, but in that game,
Speaker 4: twenty seven seconds in that pouring rain was it was
Speaker 4: gonna be tough for the Chiefs to get the field,
Speaker 4: So to me, it was like a no brainer.
Speaker 2: But I'm so glad he didn't do it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he almost threw two picks, by the way,
Speaker 3: to think two different times in the final sequence, can I.
Speaker 2: Suggest one more? Can I nominate one more dumble over
Speaker 2: the weekend?
Speaker 3: It's not a coach, And it's kind of ironic to
Speaker 3: say this because not only did he have the greatest
Speaker 3: play of the week, but he.
Speaker 5: Might have had on market.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the great plays of all time with
Speaker 3: that backwards hurdle, which I've never seen on any level
Speaker 3: of football ever, Like, is just mind boggling, boggling play.
Speaker 3: But the announcers kind of let this slide. It was
Speaker 3: the Eagles. I want to get the exact sequence here.
Speaker 3: It was the Eagles twenty eight the Jaguars twenty three,
Speaker 3: and the Eagles had the ball with under four minutes left.
Speaker 3: They had a second and thirteen at the Jacksonville forty
Speaker 3: eight and Saquon as he was doing all game, was
Speaker 3: having a great play. He had went for nine yards
Speaker 3: to the right and he could have easily gotten right
Speaker 3: to the sticks. Instead, he prioritized keeping the clock going over,
Speaker 3: getting the first down, and he slides, and of course
Speaker 3: then he gets stuffed on third and four, and then
Speaker 3: Sirianni rolls out Elliott for a fifty seven yard field
Speaker 3: goal try, which he misses.
Speaker 2: So Jacksonville gets the ball back down five with two
Speaker 2: eleven left, and they got it all the.
Speaker 3: Way to the thirteen before Trevor Lawrence did the Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence thing and overthrew Dernest Johnson and it was picked
Speaker 3: by Nikobe Dean and the Eagles survived.
Speaker 2: But that Saquon slide was.
Speaker 6: Like, he's so insane?
Speaker 5: What was he doing? I totally forgot about that one,
Speaker 5: because as soon as it happened, I was screaming on
Speaker 5: the text to everyone, what is he doing?
Speaker 4: You get, first of all, there's no such thing as
Speaker 4: keeping the clock going on when you have when you're
Speaker 4: gonna have a third and four, that's not a thing.
Speaker 4: You have to get a first down and then you
Speaker 4: get fall down. There's no such thing as.
Speaker 9: Falling down second in thirteen gaming nine? What are you
Speaker 9: talking about? I don't even understand what he's doing. What
Speaker 9: he's doing, And the announcers just let it go. They
Speaker 9: like said something briefly and then they just moved on.
Speaker 9: But it was it was it could have erased everything
Speaker 9: about that game in all of his performance, like it
Speaker 9: was that.
Speaker 7: You know, I will say this, guys in the league
Speaker 7: is still the same way we work so hard on
Speaker 7: two minute offense, meaning we need to go score to win.
Speaker 7: We don't work that hard on foreman in offense, right,
Speaker 7: and foreman in offense is when you're trying to cement
Speaker 7: the game. And that that's something that you know when
Speaker 7: you witnessed and watch these games. If you want to pocket,
Speaker 7: put that in your pocket. I mean, it's rare that
Speaker 7: teams will work on four mian in offense. If you
Speaker 7: get some information that teams are really solid with four
Speaker 7: minute offenses, and then okay, teams know how to win,
Speaker 7: go out and go out and win a football game.
Speaker 7: But more times than not, we're working on two minute
Speaker 7: offense to go get that final score. So those little
Speaker 7: things right there that can cause you a victory, they
Speaker 7: can come back to hanty and we've seen sa Quan
Speaker 7: fumbled the ball at in critical moments too, So I
Speaker 7: mean those things kind of we're as ugly ahead from
Speaker 7: time to time. But I think That's a vital piece
Speaker 7: of information to know if you want to keep.
Speaker 5: That in your pocket.
Speaker 3: And I as to follow up question about that, Britch,
Speaker 3: because you say you guys work on two minute offenses,
Speaker 3: and we as fans and as better as we always
Speaker 3: hear that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I'm curious you've had multiple coaches college and then prove
Speaker 2: you've had multiple coaches, were there some who did it
Speaker 2: far better than others? In other words, was the repetition
Speaker 2: enough on working on something like a two minute offense
Speaker 2: enough that a high enough percentage of players on your
Speaker 2: team got it and sunk in? And were there some
Speaker 2: coaches were like, man, if we get into this situation,
Speaker 2: we are not prepared. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 7: I think coach Shanahan, Mike Shanahan was for two minute offense,
Speaker 7: Mike home Grinto up in Seattle. I mean, it was
Speaker 7: something that was such a situation in the game and uh,
Speaker 7: that that we needed to work on and certainly get
Speaker 7: better at, get better with and uh and you become
Speaker 7: potent that way. I mean, at any moment you can
Speaker 7: go out there and get in two minute offense. I
Speaker 7: mean Jim Kelly made a career that up there in
Speaker 7: Buffalo Uh, and it helped him become Hall of Fame
Speaker 7: and bealance with you. So I think in Atlanta, you know,
Speaker 7: we were so undisciplined fellas that that you know, if
Speaker 7: we did two minute offense, it was it was probably
Speaker 7: spurred the moment right at that point. But we we
Speaker 7: definitely didn't work on four minute offense submitting a football game.
Speaker 7: But no, I think two minute offense is just one
Speaker 7: of those critical situations, uh, that that.
Speaker 5: Team's focus on a lot.
Speaker 7: Uh, and they forget, like I just mentioned other aspects
Speaker 7: of the game or other situations.
Speaker 5: Of the game.
Speaker 3: You mean to suggest that Jerry Glanville wasn't completely buttoned up.
Speaker 3: That sounds shocking more.
Speaker 5: I thought he was entertaining non professional.
Speaker 2: Coaching.
Speaker 6: He's like coaching D three or something somewhere right now,
Speaker 6: I think. So, I think, I.
Speaker 5: Know, I know.
Speaker 3: What is I'm sorry, but since we have you, we
Speaker 3: don't usually have someone who actually played in the NFL
Speaker 3: on with us. So I just want to take this opportunity.
Speaker 3: Is there something and I apologize for the open ended question.
Speaker 3: You haven't prepped for this question, but is there something
Speaker 3: that you hear not necessarily just us betters, Maybe it's us,
Speaker 3: but like mainstream media talking about football, where it drives
Speaker 3: you crazy because we have no understanding of it whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's something Maybe it's like we assume something is
Speaker 3: more prepared than than it is, or.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just something we fundamentally don't get about the game.
Speaker 2: Is there something that leaps to mind?
Speaker 5: Well? We you know, I think so.
Speaker 7: I mean, we we do armshare quarterbacking a lot, right,
Speaker 7: And I think what what needs to be said is
Speaker 7: that it's game planning more and more so than anything,
Speaker 7: and a lot of times teams have the wrong game
Speaker 7: plans and then that's that's when you see guys throwing
Speaker 7: tablets and stuff like that on the sidelin, right, because
Speaker 7: the game plan sucks and we worked all week on
Speaker 7: this game plan and it stinks, right, and that's when
Speaker 7: things are frustrated. But you know, you go back to
Speaker 7: play calling a lot of times, and we all do that.
Speaker 5: I still do that.
Speaker 7: But to me, it's more about they did they didn't
Speaker 7: work on the right game plan and you can see
Speaker 7: that early on too, and but can they get to
Speaker 7: adjustments right? So I al would say the game is
Speaker 7: about seventy percent adjustments because you get into this part
Speaker 7: of the season. Your tendencies are all out there. The
Speaker 7: cut ups of every situational opportunity that's you had on
Speaker 7: the field is for your opponent and they've studied that right.
Speaker 7: So if your game plan is not fine tune, it's
Speaker 7: not supreme, then all of a sudden, now what are
Speaker 7: you going to do? What can you get to you?
Speaker 7: And so the teams that can get to so many
Speaker 7: other adjustments with personnel or with style of play on
Speaker 7: both sides of the ball that comes to the surface,
Speaker 7: and that that's what gets frustrating too sometimes when when
Speaker 7: you know armchair quarterbacking wants to specifically blame this or
Speaker 7: specifically blame that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 3: By the way, greatest adjuster of all time Todd Joe Jackson,
Speaker 3: Gibbs and very long. But the only thing that I
Speaker 3: would I would follow up with is I totally get
Speaker 3: what you're saying and I and I totally get the
Speaker 3: adjustments part of it.
Speaker 2: Do you do you understand why those of us who.
Speaker 3: Are better, because I really do, put betters over most
Speaker 3: fans because we're we're trying to think about every little
Speaker 3: thing when we're.
Speaker 2: You know, when money is on the line.
Speaker 3: Do you understand why the clock management stuff at the
Speaker 3: end of halves and games particularly frustrate us?
Speaker 2: And is there really is there really a chasm between
Speaker 2: a game plan? Is one thing?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: And we get it.
Speaker 3: We don't know x's and o's as much as coaches,
Speaker 3: even though Todd always says like if you give them
Speaker 3: two or three years, it'll be the best court.
Speaker 4: But like the a year and a half with proper
Speaker 4: film study, and that was gonna be my next point,
Speaker 4: But you go ahead and ask Pretcher thing and then
Speaker 4: I'll say what I want to say.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because I mean it is your podcast.
Speaker 3: The the clock, the clock stuff at the end, is
Speaker 3: it as is it as ridiculously bad as we make
Speaker 3: it out to be, Like how can they not know
Speaker 3: this stuff?
Speaker 7: Well, it's it's bad because of the stress of everything,
Speaker 7: like like like I mentioned that the game plan is
Speaker 7: not going according to plan.
Speaker 5: You know, then all of a sudden in the headsets
Speaker 5: you get.
Speaker 7: There's there's chaos, there's yelling, there's stream and there's sowing things,
Speaker 7: there's frustration, the just cussing each other out. I mean,
Speaker 7: there's all kinds of emotion on the sideline, and therefore,
Speaker 7: you know, those kind of decisions get lost, those critical
Speaker 7: moments get lost, and you'd like to have an analytics guy,
Speaker 7: you have to.
Speaker 5: You like to have a.
Speaker 7: Clock management management person too, but you can switch them
Speaker 7: off if you're stressed out because you can't get a
Speaker 7: first down, or or your defense is given up too
Speaker 7: many yurs or or things that.
Speaker 5: You worked on all week is not working.
Speaker 7: So it's emotional, right, And I don't know, there's very
Speaker 7: few guys out there from a head coaching standpoint that
Speaker 7: can remove that emotion of the game on the sideline
Speaker 7: and make a sound decision and be consistent with it.
Speaker 7: And that's the challenge or betters to say, Okay, wait
Speaker 7: a minute, if are these guys capable of doing that? Now,
Speaker 7: if if you find coaches that are capable and consistent
Speaker 7: making sound decisions, okay, they can handle the emotion right,
Speaker 7: And that's an edge.
Speaker 5: Period, there's an as an edge for you.
Speaker 7: But but like you just said, Todd, if there are
Speaker 7: people out there that cannot do that it, cannot handle it,
Speaker 7: that are too emotional, then they're going to make an
Speaker 7: emotional decision and panic at times critical moments.
Speaker 5: Of the game.
Speaker 2: That's why the CEO head coach like Tomlin who gets
Speaker 2: it at the end like, that's why that's probably underrated.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, tom No.
Speaker 4: I just want to say one thing, Football, much like life,
Speaker 4: is the most not We're not getting to see the
Speaker 4: real story. Okay, this is what I mean. And you
Speaker 4: can see that. For instance, when I texted you those
Speaker 4: Twitter films by Chase Daniel. Pritcher's the guy Chase Daniel,
Speaker 4: that backup quarterback for many years. He does like he
Speaker 4: does breakdowns on Twitter videos of the plays and what
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks seeing where he's supposed to go. This is
Speaker 4: choice one, Choice two, choice three, choice four. When we
Speaker 4: watch football, we don't really see what's going on. Of
Speaker 4: all the sports, basketball, you can see the guy's picking,
Speaker 4: he's rolling, he's a baseball we see, but bus soccerwn.
Speaker 2: In football, everything is obscured.
Speaker 5: All we see is the guy goes back to pass.
Speaker 4: The rush is coming now the throw we don't even
Speaker 4: know if he's open until the ball gets there. You
Speaker 4: don't really see the game. However, when you watch the
Speaker 4: All twenty two stuff, like I bring up that Chase
Speaker 4: Daniel stuff because that's what I was watching last week.
Speaker 4: It's so much different. It's the real game. You get
Speaker 4: to see.
Speaker 5: Here's what Jaden Daniels is seeing and why he's making
Speaker 5: decision to throw to this guy short on the left
Speaker 5: instead of this guy down the hash. It's because this
Speaker 5: safety is rolling over a little took two steps this
Speaker 5: far and he sees it right. And then you also
Speaker 5: get like I saw him do a breakdown Chase Young,
Speaker 5: and he's got the same thing and he shows, Okay, Chase,
Speaker 5: why didn't you throw here? The hash is wide open?
Speaker 5: He makes the wrong decision.
Speaker 4: Now all we get to see is the thing at
Speaker 4: the end Chase through an incomplete or through an interception.
Speaker 4: We don't see that there was a play that Jaden
Speaker 4: Daniels made or Chase Young made because of a horrible
Speaker 4: decision that you can clearly see on the film that
Speaker 4: we don't see at all.
Speaker 5: And we watched he we watched these football games. I've
Speaker 5: watched a football games. We don't usually get to see
Speaker 5: that stuff. And if you do see it, I think
Speaker 5: you would have a huge advantage. Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know what's interesting, Todd, is the reason why we
Speaker 7: don't is because of instant replay.
Speaker 5: Because they have so many.
Speaker 7: Cameras in the stadium and they want to show they
Speaker 7: can show all twenty two. We know that they can
Speaker 7: show that game, and I mean it would it would
Speaker 7: dramatically change the game as viewers we watched it that way,
Speaker 7: But then where would we replay go?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: And and and the sponsorships of all that. It's it's
Speaker 7: all about money really, But you're absolutely right. It is frustrating.
Speaker 7: But knowing you can see pre snaps sometimes when when
Speaker 7: teams are going to rotate coverage or whatever, but not
Speaker 7: knowing the play call, you know, in a huddle, that
Speaker 7: kind of gets difficult too.
Speaker 5: But no, you're you're one thousand percent right.
Speaker 7: I wish they would do it, But knowing the reasons,
Speaker 7: why is it all goes back.
Speaker 6: To replay a couple even if we had watched the
Speaker 6: tape though, like top Todd, Gil, like anyone that hasn't
Speaker 6: played a high level, even if he had watched the tape. Man,
Speaker 6: unless you're explaining to us, like what the coverage is,
Speaker 6: what the protection and there's a lot of moving parts,
Speaker 6: Like I wouldn't be able to just sit there and
Speaker 6: watch it. Would it'd probably be helpful if it would
Speaker 6: be very helpful if somebody was pointing out to me,
Speaker 6: you know the different uh like coverages and this guy
Speaker 6: got beat on his block, things like that. But unless
Speaker 6: you're unless you're really educated, man, I don't know that
Speaker 6: watching it, would it would even be that much for
Speaker 6: help unless you're getting helped.
Speaker 5: Tom Brady, if you God, no, I.
Speaker 2: Was saying, Tom tom Brady, his frustrations.
Speaker 3: Tom Brady was saying, was he got, he would get
Speaker 3: mad at announcers, just so you were talking about Will,
Speaker 3: he would get mad at announcers because they would go
Speaker 3: after the quarterback for you know, making this horrible decision
Speaker 3: once you know, post snap, and Tom Brady would be like,
Speaker 3: that's not even football. What the real analysis is is
Speaker 3: that that quarterback should have realized pre snap that he
Speaker 3: should have never run that play in the first place, right, Like,
Speaker 3: And so that's the kind of stuff you were saying, Well,
Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff we would never get, but
Speaker 3: we would.
Speaker 2: But we would get.
Speaker 4: We wouldn't get one hundred percent, like Will saying, I
Speaker 4: agree with him one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: We wouldn't get at all, but we would get way
Speaker 5: more than we do now.
Speaker 2: We would have so much more.
Speaker 4: You can a lot of the stuff that Chase Daniels
Speaker 4: is showing you is not that complicated, it really is it.
Speaker 4: It's it's okay, here's your read. You've got to look
Speaker 4: at the safety. If he's going to roll to the left,
Speaker 4: two steps, you're going down the scene. If he doesn't
Speaker 4: roll to the left, you're.
Speaker 2: Going to you know.
Speaker 3: But that's what Tom Bray saying. If you were a
Speaker 3: masterclass elite like Brady, you would see just in the alignment, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this play that we have, I shouldn't even snap it
Speaker 3: on this right. I got an audible out of this.
Speaker 5: Well, that's the next level. That's even the next level, Gilly.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: It also has to do with but to give you
Speaker 3: just a real life example of it, Peter King, remember
Speaker 3: the famous writer Peter King, mister Football Monday Monday Morning Quarterback.
Speaker 2: He used to be a Giants beat report. I think
Speaker 2: I've told this story before.
Speaker 3: When the Sloan Sports Analytics Come Reference was going on
Speaker 3: MIT back in the day when I used to go.
Speaker 3: I was a little Pischer, you know, Skins fan, and
Speaker 3: he famously as a Giants beat reporter never voted for
Speaker 3: Art Monk to go into the Hall of Fame. Art
Speaker 3: Monk took in nine years to get in the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame when he graduate. When he retired, he had
Speaker 3: the most receptions in the history of the NFL, but
Speaker 3: to him nine years to get in.
Speaker 2: So, I, you know, was all upset about. I go
Speaker 2: up to Peter King.
Speaker 3: I worked at my courage and I'm like, do you
Speaker 3: think if you had all twenty two footage you would
Speaker 3: have actually voted Art Monk into the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: because you would have seen that he's getting double team
Speaker 3: the entire time, which is allowing Gary Clark and Ricky
Speaker 3: Sanders to do their thing right. And he thought about it.
Speaker 3: He was like, you know what, you might be right.
Speaker 3: Maybe I would have.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 3: Even things like that, right, it determines like who gets
Speaker 3: into a Hall of Fame and when maybe for some
Speaker 3: people like So that's to your point, Todd.
Speaker 2: It's the whole game and we don't see any of it.
Speaker 2: We're just following a ball on TV.
Speaker 6: And I thought that story was going to end with
Speaker 6: Peter King soaking you in the face or something. I
Speaker 6: didn't know where that was going.
Speaker 2: Peter Kings knocked me in the face. Yes, this is.
Speaker 4: Why I said it would take me a year and
Speaker 4: a half to become the best offensive quarterator, not six months.
Speaker 4: I'd have to watch the film for at least a
Speaker 4: year and a half to figure the whole thing out. Now,
Speaker 4: at that point, for sure, I would be. But I'm
Speaker 4: not saying overnight or in six months, because there's a
Speaker 4: lot to know.
Speaker 2: Doesn't Tomlin live down the street from you? Can't you go?
Speaker 2: Just ask him if you can get a job done?
Speaker 5: Art Smith?
Speaker 4: Art Smith lives a couple of blocks away, and Tomlin
Speaker 4: lives a couple of blocks away over there. I mean
Speaker 4: I could, but then it would require me put giving
Speaker 4: up on the megapod.
Speaker 2: We'd be back to professionalism, no entertainment.
Speaker 5: What are we gonna do?
Speaker 7: I think you would have been a better coordinator for
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh last year than who they had.
Speaker 5: I can't last year?
Speaker 2: Canada?
Speaker 9: Was it?
Speaker 2: Canada?
Speaker 5: Canada? Canada?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Canada?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: Which brings us to Thursday night football. Can one really
Speaker 2: really short in game thing for you real quick?
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Peo.
Speaker 4: The Ravens. The Ravens have thirty eight points. They're winning
Speaker 4: thirty eight to ten. Late third quarter. The books are
Speaker 4: getting much much smarter now, guys much smarter. In the past,
Speaker 4: you might have seen forty five or forty five and
Speaker 4: a half as their team total at that point. No,
Speaker 4: they're getting smarter. They're gonna put it at forty four
Speaker 4: and a half. But it was plus one oh five
Speaker 4: to the under, okay, So they're basically saying, if you
Speaker 4: want to take the under, which we know you want to,
Speaker 4: we're gonna make you sweat a little bit, because forty
Speaker 4: four and a half is only six and a half
Speaker 4: more points for the Ravens. However, there's only a minute
Speaker 4: left in the third quarter and it's thirty eight ten
Speaker 4: in an NFL game, So I'm taking under forty four
Speaker 4: and a half because anytime the Ravens have the ball
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter, it's gonna be a lot of run, run, run, punt.
Speaker 4: Maybe get the first down, usually get a field goal. Okay,
Speaker 4: they're not going to get the touchdown. Sometimes you're gonna
Speaker 4: lose because Derek Henry will break one. But it's not college.
Speaker 4: They're gonna run the ball and they're usually going to
Speaker 4: punt the ball. So I took the under forty four
Speaker 4: and a half. It went exactly as planned. The Ravens
Speaker 4: did get one nice drive where they got down, but
Speaker 4: they did kick the field goal. It's now forty one
Speaker 4: to ten, and the only way you lose is if
Speaker 4: BOONEX throws you a pick six. So you know, I
Speaker 4: bring it up just so that people who like this
Speaker 4: in game late stuff. In the NFL, they're not going
Speaker 4: to give you a full touchdown on the team total
Speaker 4: when a team's winning big, but it still can be
Speaker 4: a very good bet because that whole fourth quarter, no
Speaker 4: team leading is trying to score a touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: It's a good point yesterday in a college football game
Speaker 3: with Ohio, though they did put it over seven right
Speaker 3: like when they were laid in a blowout.
Speaker 4: Well it's called you're talking about the full game, but
Speaker 4: it's the same idea of Gilly. I take your appointment.
Speaker 4: But in college you do see the break. You know,
Speaker 4: the guy runs for eighty five yards at the end
Speaker 4: of the game. It does happen.
Speaker 2: In pros.
Speaker 4: The only person who doesn't fall down anymore at the
Speaker 4: end is Naj Harris. Naj Hair wants to get a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Everybody else knows if you get the first down.
Speaker 5: Just falled out. Not Naji Harris.
Speaker 6: So you might, but he's not going to score it, right,
Speaker 6: Tod No, we exactly.
Speaker 4: We went to the reason I say this, We went.
Speaker 4: We got free tickets from one of the sportsbooks to
Speaker 4: go to the brown Steelers game, the last Roethlisberger game,
Speaker 4: and we were in the Luxury Ball. This is when
Speaker 4: I just had started re eating again, and they had
Speaker 4: the most delicious pizza of all time in that goddamn box.
Speaker 4: But we had the We had the Browns and the
Speaker 4: Plus and we were all set up. We were all
Speaker 4: set up and not and Steelers had the ball. They're
Speaker 4: just going to run it out.
Speaker 5: It's there at the like.
Speaker 4: Forty yard line and Naji Harris breaks one and I'm like, Naji,
Speaker 4: you're supposed to fall down.
Speaker 5: He doesn't fall down, touchdown. We lose.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he did.
Speaker 5: The same thing this year in the in the game
Speaker 5: thirty to fifteen against the Jets, with like a minute left,
Speaker 5: he did the same thing and scored again.
Speaker 4: This guy wants to get his touchdowns. So that's another
Speaker 4: thing to remember on in game.
Speaker 5: If the Steelers have the ball late, be careful because
Speaker 5: now as you might try to break one.
Speaker 4: Not reheating reeating, Yes, is when I went from one
Speaker 4: ninety five back to an inflated three twenty.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately you what are you rocking right now? Tody? Three twenty?
Speaker 2: Thanks Gil, thanks for bringing it up. Yeah, we'll hoping
Speaker 2: for the best anything on Thursday Night football tonight. The
Speaker 2: Ravens are six six and a half point favorites at
Speaker 2: home against the Bengals tonight. It's actually six pardon me,
Speaker 2: six point favorites, with the total now all the way
Speaker 2: up to fifty two and a half. Anything on this one,
Speaker 2: I have one, I have.
Speaker 5: This is one of my picks.
Speaker 2: I do two.
Speaker 5: Okay, So once you go.
Speaker 3: First, I am going to play the under fifty two
Speaker 3: and a half in this game.
Speaker 5: That's what I was going to do too.
Speaker 2: I'll do it.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead, I might sitch now, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, No, don't switch just because I'm doing it first.
Speaker 2: Tell us first why you like it. Then I'll decide
Speaker 2: I will do it. And I want to shout out again.
Speaker 3: There's a gentleman at Action Network who does great Thursday
Speaker 3: night football stuff by the name of Sean Corner, and
Speaker 3: he puts together some great stuff. One of the things
Speaker 3: on these is we've done really well when I've bet
Speaker 3: these Thursday night games no.
Speaker 2: T Higgins tonight, Lamar Jackson's knee.
Speaker 3: We don't really know what the story is, and the
Speaker 3: Bengals also might not have their standout offensive lineman Orlando Brown.
Speaker 3: Here's the deal with handicapping. You want to try to
Speaker 3: determine what is sustainable what is not sustainable. Both the
Speaker 3: Bengals and the Ravens are at the top of the
Speaker 3: league when it comes to red zone touchdown percentage. That
Speaker 3: is a metric that is often influenced by luck and
Speaker 3: is prone to regression. So just to give an example again,
Speaker 3: the Saints, which we don't think of as a good offense,
Speaker 3: their top five in red zone touchdown percentage. The Packers
Speaker 3: and Niners are at the bottom of the league, bottom
Speaker 3: five in red zone touchdown percentage. So you got to
Speaker 3: figure these things tend to regress to the center on
Speaker 3: it not having Orlando Brown. By the way, Bengals last
Speaker 3: four weeks they scored forty one points against the Raiders,
Speaker 3: but that was because they got the ball twice because
Speaker 3: of Raiders turnovers inside the Raiders red zone. The weeks
Speaker 3: before that, seventeen points against the Giants, twenty one against
Speaker 3: the Browns seventeen against the Eagles. When they don't have
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown, everything is decreased seven.
Speaker 2: Point eight yards per attempt with Brown out from Burrow
Speaker 2: six point one excuse me, seven point eight when he's
Speaker 2: in six point one yards per attempt when he's out,
Speaker 2: and the run game also affected. It goes from four
Speaker 2: point five yards per rush with Brown three point eight
Speaker 2: without him. Higgins absence Burrow eight point zero yards per
Speaker 2: dropback with Higgins five point five yards per attempt without him.
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase gets double team.
Speaker 3: So it's a compounding thing other side of the ball,
Speaker 3: even though the Ravens, the Ravens won't again, they don't
Speaker 3: have Isaiah Likely, we don't know if Lamar's knee is okay.
Speaker 3: And yes, they'll go to Derrick Henry a lot, and
Speaker 3: we love Dereck Henry. But the Bengals still do have
Speaker 3: good numbers when it comes to initiating contact early, so
Speaker 3: that could mitigate the Henry thing a bit. So you
Speaker 3: put all that in the mix. To me, this is
Speaker 3: an under while this while this number keeps getting higher
Speaker 3: and higher, So I'm going under Bengals Ravens Tonight fifty
Speaker 3: two and a half, stick with it, don't change it.
Speaker 4: No, I got I'm going to change because I don't
Speaker 4: want to do I want to get. I want to
Speaker 4: get much more ahead of you.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'll just say you're leaving me
Speaker 2: an opening is what you're doing, it's not.
Speaker 4: Actually that's fine. I feel my offense is better than
Speaker 4: your defense. Good go, let's preach. Does anybody else have
Speaker 4: anything for a Thursday? And nobody has a pick? But
Speaker 4: I willy, I think you have thoughts on it. You
Speaker 4: think the Ravens are going to win right.
Speaker 6: Now. I've been back and forth on this. I last
Speaker 6: time these teams played a month or so ago, I was,
Speaker 6: I gave out the over, then I switched to something else,
Speaker 6: and of course the over sailed over in the something
Speaker 6: else lost, So I was going to play the over.
Speaker 6: Then I saw what it was and I was like, man,
Speaker 6: I kind of like, that's just a lot of points
Speaker 6: to get in the NFL.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just see a scenario. I do think the Ravens
Speaker 6: are gonna win. I just see a scenario where the
Speaker 6: Ravens are up maybe like ten late, and Bengals are
Speaker 6: driving with the ball to either get a back door. Now,
Speaker 6: these teams, as we've seen, that's another thing we're talking about.
Speaker 6: They kick the field goal a lot earlier once they
Speaker 6: get in a field goal rangs. These teams are catching on. Hey,
Speaker 6: I need two scores. Let me get the field goal
Speaker 6: out of the way right away.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Burrow seems to play up to competition in these games.
Speaker 6: They play up and down to their competition. He's good
Speaker 6: as a dog. You can move the ball in Baltimore.
Speaker 6: I'm just I don't know. I'm terrified of fading these
Speaker 6: Baltimore teams. So I'm sitting this one out. I think
Speaker 6: the line is about what it should be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's kind of interesting because I think about identity
Speaker 7: the Ravens on the pass run ratio, there's seventy third
Speaker 7: and that see me. The Bengals are seventy thirty pass
Speaker 7: run ratio, where you have the Ravens over fifty percent
Speaker 7: running the.
Speaker 5: Football, which means you can get to so much other things.
Speaker 7: Right Whereas if you're so committed to the passing game,
Speaker 7: the Ravens are going to as without t Higgins out there,
Speaker 7: they're going to double chase. It's going to be such
Speaker 7: a different game than it was previous. Like you mentioned Will,
Speaker 7: that game we saw Week five, so I think the
Speaker 7: Ravens had the advantages here in this one.
Speaker 5: Under is interesting because I've never really been a total better.
Speaker 7: I've been burned on betting totals time and time again.
Speaker 5: But I can see your points, so that you made
Speaker 5: their guilt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel with it with Higgins out the
Speaker 3: double because you're right the first game, Chase had ten
Speaker 3: catches and two touches and touchdowns, and I think Higgins
Speaker 3: had nine catches and two touchdowns. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you take one off the field and you get to
Speaker 3: double team. It's a whole different calculus. It's a big
Speaker 3: game beyond just that handicap. It's a big game for
Speaker 3: a lot of things tonight. The Bengals to have a
Speaker 3: shot at the division, the Bengals to make the playoffs, right,
Speaker 3: because they're what are they four and five?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Burrow for you know awards like Will was talking about
Speaker 3: maybe a long shot Offensive Player of the Year. Shots
Speaker 3: was on a numbers game. You actually talking about Burrow
Speaker 3: for Comeback Player of the Year. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of other stuff that's on the line.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 4: What about the stiller in the division in that, Well,
Speaker 4: us Pittsburgh guys down here, we're having a huge season
Speaker 4: and YenS aren't even acknowledging it.
Speaker 5: You's think that you're like some kind of Ravens lover
Speaker 5: like that thing. Don't even have any defense in that.
Speaker 5: You think that we're nothing down here. You're looking down
Speaker 5: at us and we're we're the kind of like city
Speaker 5: and club that's gonna punch you in the math. So
Speaker 5: watch yourself in the math in the math.
Speaker 2: Club. That is the weirdest part about that accent club.
Speaker 2: All right, best bets for Week ten in the NFL. Pritch,
Speaker 2: what is your number one? Sir?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 7: Ironically, Todd, I mean, I've been on the Steelers all year.
Speaker 7: Before the season even started, I was high on the Steelers.
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people shied away from them
Speaker 7: because of the schedule, right, but look how schedules playing out.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think last year when you saw the
Speaker 7: fact that you know, the Steelers win in that division,
Speaker 7: the toughest division of football, without a great offense coordinator,
Speaker 7: without a quarterback, and was still competitive five to one
Speaker 7: within a division. You know, this matchup against the commanders.
Speaker 7: It's an outlier situation for me with what Washington's doing.
Speaker 7: A crazy job, a great job so far with Quinn,
Speaker 7: and they're going to add a lot of more. They
Speaker 7: think that they can win that division, which is all good.
Speaker 7: And Daniels has been spectacular. He's been probably better or
Speaker 7: out better than c J scouts last year. CJS was
Speaker 7: so good last year, but he's been incredible. But he's
Speaker 7: not facing defense like this. And I think what Tomlin
Speaker 7: has done pushing buttons on key guys, namely Russell Wilson,
Speaker 7: meaning the other guys in the locker room are going
Speaker 7: to follow this guy. And he's truly a leadership type
Speaker 7: of situation at quarterback.
Speaker 5: I think Steelers are going to click.
Speaker 7: My best bet right there is get catching these points
Speaker 7: against the upstart Commanders on the road.
Speaker 2: Can I can I jump into?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I jump in?
Speaker 3: Because because me and Pritch are OPO here, so I
Speaker 3: want to jump in, And it also gives me the.
Speaker 2: To say It also gives me the opportunity to say, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: well on. It also gives me the opportunity to say, princh.
Speaker 5: Please, I'd like to go.
Speaker 4: I'd like to go into my professionalism for a moment
Speaker 4: and say everything that you will now hear should be
Speaker 4: disclaimrized because there is a person who's going to pick
Speaker 4: the commanders, who has a little bit of a rooting
Speaker 4: interest in the commanders.
Speaker 2: Thank you and listen, we'll just say this.
Speaker 3: For my entire career, I have made a career going
Speaker 3: against them, right, being a defeatist Washington.
Speaker 2: So maybe the pendulum has swung.
Speaker 3: I want to I do want to acknowledge what what
Speaker 3: is saying, which is talking about sustainable and unsustainable? Nine
Speaker 3: games Washington forty two point five yards per drive on average.
Speaker 3: That is the most per average drive through the first
Speaker 3: nine games of any NFL season for any team ever,
Speaker 3: not for a rookie quarterback, for any team ever.
Speaker 2: Can they sustain that? Maybe?
Speaker 3: Here's the part that's probably unsustainable. They only have three
Speaker 3: turnovers through nine game.
Speaker 2: That cannot be sustainable, right, Jadan Daniels only with two picks.
Speaker 3: The other thing is they only have nineteen punts through
Speaker 3: nine games. Nineteen punts. Tressway does not see the field.
Speaker 3: The Raiders have nineteen turnover the Skins have nineteen punts.
Speaker 3: So there is to Mike's point, there is you know, like,
Speaker 3: can they possibly do this every week? No, at some
Speaker 3: point it's got to change in Pittsburgh. Is a bit
Speaker 3: of a step up in competition, but I think it's
Speaker 3: a really interesting one because it's not going to the
Speaker 3: ultimate elite level in the NFL. Remember they tried that once.
Speaker 3: Baltimore beat him by a touchdown. So the Skins are
Speaker 3: probably like you know, right about the eighth best team
Speaker 3: in the NFL is right around there too.
Speaker 2: It's less than three. I guessed four on guessing lines
Speaker 2: on Monday. As long as this is less than.
Speaker 3: Three, I'm going with the kid, baby Jaydon Daniels, who
Speaker 3: makes no wrong decisions ever.
Speaker 2: Give me the Skins minus two and a half.
Speaker 5: I bet him twenty.
Speaker 4: I bet him twenty two to one to win the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl this week before Latimore.
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, Latimore, lot of We're probably not
Speaker 2: playing in this game.
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm not saying in the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, what if they in the championship game? No,
Speaker 5: but if they get to the NFC championship game, I
Speaker 5: can hedge out and make money either way. Will you
Speaker 5: know a little bit about that?
Speaker 6: Trying to make the NFC Championship is not the super Bowl, though.
Speaker 6: It's a different thing, altogether different game, is it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know about what about the
Speaker 4: WNBA Conference Championship and finals, anything you wanted to.
Speaker 3: Say about that one player in the WNBA Todd what
Speaker 3: was her name that you love so much?
Speaker 2: What's her name?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: The one the one that it Wally hates because Djanee Carrington.
Speaker 6: I don't hate anybody, I just hate the.
Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah, okay, let's not go down that road.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So it's my first pick, right because you already did too,
Speaker 4: Gilly and preaching it to me. Okay, So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go with my first pick, and I'm gonna go with
Speaker 4: a little team I call the New York g Man.
Speaker 4: What do you guys have there? Minus six and a half?
Speaker 2: Yeah, minus six and a half. Good luck to you,
Speaker 2: n y g minus six and a half.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me just tell you something a little something
Speaker 4: about the New York g Men.
Speaker 5: They're not that bad.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: They played the Steelers, straight up. They played the Redskins
Speaker 5: were also in the game.
Speaker 2: Prior to that.
Speaker 5: They've played a lot of other teams that they've been
Speaker 5: in the game. Day Ball He might not be the.
Speaker 4: Best coach in the NFL, but I think he's pretty decent.
Speaker 4: This team is not that bad. They can run football
Speaker 4: with that Tracy Junior kid. You know this is not
Speaker 4: a bad team. I love neighbors. Okay, there's a lot
Speaker 4: that this team can do. On the other side of
Speaker 4: the ball. The Carolina Panthers just what I would say,
Speaker 4: proverbially shot their load. Okay, they won their one game finally,
Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty two.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is not a foot Sorry, Pritch, I apologize
Speaker 2: for the professional Yes, that's jap thou Carolina.
Speaker 4: We've watched Carolina all year. It's not a professional football team.
Speaker 4: We all know that they played the Saints and they
Speaker 4: found a way to squeak out a win. Of course,
Speaker 4: every team in the NFL is going to get a
Speaker 4: couple covers every year. There's no team that's not going
Speaker 4: to cover h to sixteen. Even the worst ones are
Speaker 4: gonna have four or five covers. And Carolina's gonna have
Speaker 4: four or five covers as well this year, probably maybe three,
Speaker 4: at least three.
Speaker 5: And they had won this past week against the Saints.
Speaker 5: Everything fell right for him. Now, the Saints are not a.
Speaker 4: Real football team either. I'm not impressed with their defense
Speaker 4: at all. The Giants are a huge step up, a
Speaker 4: huge step up. Now everyone's gonna be huffing fumes down
Speaker 4: in Carolina.
Speaker 5: Oh, we won a game where we're no, we're not
Speaker 5: the worst ever.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: Okay, come back to earth and let's get a typical
Speaker 4: Carolina performance twenty seven to ten Giants and lets everyone
Speaker 4: go back to the drawing board. Okay, so let's chill it.
Speaker 4: Giants minus six and a half.
Speaker 3: How about that game being in Munich? Enjoy the Giants
Speaker 3: and Panthers Munich, Germany.
Speaker 2: Joy will what you got?
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Jacksonville Jaguars plus the seven here?
Speaker 5: Do you know Mac Jones is the quarterback?
Speaker 6: By the way, You do know that, right, I do
Speaker 6: know that. And I just think this is a complete overreaction.
Speaker 6: You're moving the line three points off of Lawrence. Lawrence
Speaker 6: has played terribly this season. You're starting to see Sam
Speaker 6: darnoald regress. He threw some bad interceptions the other night. Again,
Speaker 6: it's the Colts, you know, hasn't played great this last
Speaker 6: month or so. And boy, you're talking about a Viking team.
Speaker 5: Are we really?
Speaker 6: Are they really in that territory now where you got
Speaker 6: to win by two scores on the road against the
Speaker 6: Jags team. Okay, they've played badly, but they were in
Speaker 6: that game last week. This is still a team. I
Speaker 6: mean before the season they were both. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think the Jags were supposed to win eight and a
Speaker 6: half games. The Viking's supposed to win six and a
Speaker 6: half games. Now you're laying seven on the road. I
Speaker 6: know things have changed, but man, just feels like an overreaction.
Speaker 6: I don't think Lawrence has played that well. So Jones
Speaker 6: is at least like a decent backup. I know he
Speaker 6: was bad last year, but he's had some good moments
Speaker 6: in the league. I'll take the seven here with the Jags.
Speaker 2: Wow, going up against his Vikings. It should be noted.
Speaker 4: Will Hill, so now Will gets to go again because
Speaker 4: you already did two picks.
Speaker 6: I'll go to another lovely endeavor here. I will take
Speaker 6: the Saints plus three and a half against the Falcons.
Speaker 6: These teams played in Week four, the line was two,
Speaker 6: and now we're three and a half. When we switching venues.
Speaker 6: I know the Saints, you know the trading guys, and
Speaker 6: guys are hurt. But in that game, in that first meeting,
Speaker 6: Atlanta won by two. They didn't cover and the Saint
Speaker 6: Town gained them in Atlanta, two of their touchdowns were
Speaker 6: non offensive. Remember it was the punk fumbled in the
Speaker 6: end zone, recovered for a touchdown, and then there was
Speaker 6: a pick six. These games were always close. I get
Speaker 6: the uh, you know, the fire the fire coach bumped
Speaker 6: from Dennis Allen, who my goodness, I was shocked when
Speaker 6: he got fired, just to find out that he was
Speaker 6: still a head coach the NFL. I don't know what
Speaker 6: took so long for them to fire him. His tenure
Speaker 6: with the Raiders and the Saints both disasters. I just
Speaker 6: think these games are always close. I think this line's
Speaker 6: an overreaction. I could see Atlanta. Who's not that? I mean,
Speaker 6: what are they playing for? They've clinched the division pretty much,
Speaker 6: They're in good shape. I think this is just like
Speaker 6: a field goal game. I will take the points here
Speaker 6: with the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 5: I kind of liked that one too.
Speaker 2: Willy, who's next? On you?
Speaker 6: Me?
Speaker 5: And then Pridge gets too Okay, I am going to
Speaker 5: take what do you guys have for the Tampa Bay game,
Speaker 5: both side and.
Speaker 2: Total please side and showed till.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly mostly six and fifteen and a.
Speaker 2: Half, six and a half I'm seeing and a half.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with up, up and over fifty and
Speaker 5: a half in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game. Here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I think Tampa Bay is the ultimate over team this year.
Speaker 5: They move the ball. You look at their scores. They
Speaker 5: move the ball relentlessly, even without wide receivers. They throw
Speaker 5: to Aughton and by the way, that was another one.
Speaker 5: They threw to Auton three times. Uh and they had
Speaker 5: him up in late in the second quarter six and
Speaker 5: a half receptions plus one ten. I was like, are
Speaker 5: you kidding me to throw to Aught in every freaking down?
Speaker 5: So I took that when it easily won. But even
Speaker 5: with posts, it is the past post. Even without the
Speaker 5: wide receivers, they're still moving the ball. Fucky Irving moves
Speaker 5: the ball. They just figure out somebody else to throw
Speaker 5: it to. And Baker is great at throwing picks to
Speaker 5: the other team to give up points that way. They're
Speaker 5: just like a great points machine.
Speaker 4: They played the Chiefs last week, a team that is
Speaker 4: like a dead undernuts team, and it still went over
Speaker 4: in the rain. So I mean, there's just nothing that
Speaker 4: can keep this Tampa Bay team from going over. Even
Speaker 4: the guy fumbles the ball before he runs over the
Speaker 4: touchdown line and they and they decide, oh no, we.
Speaker 5: Don't have a view. We don't have a view to
Speaker 5: knock it out. He clearly fumbled, but whatever, they still
Speaker 5: gave him a touchdown. Because it's a Tampa Bay game,
Speaker 5: you have to give points, and so basically I.
Speaker 2: Just think, yes they did.
Speaker 6: They gave him the touchdown because they gave him a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They gave it to them. It was clearly wait, no,
Speaker 2: the pitch one. They gave him a touchdown.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: It was a Tampa game, right, But wasn't there a
Speaker 3: who was the guy that didn't That was a different game.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking the guy was the.
Speaker 5: Jets game the Jets. Yes, So so anyway, there.
Speaker 6: Was a giant Seahawks won too. Remember they called it
Speaker 6: a fumble six instead of where he was it looked
Speaker 6: like he crossed the goal line.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But anyways, the point is Tampa Bay. Now you're going
Speaker 4: up against San Francisco forty nine ers. They're gonna score
Speaker 4: a billion against Tampa I don't even know if they
Speaker 4: make a scoreboard high enough, they're gonna just score their
Speaker 4: asses off against Tampa, and Tampa's gonna help you and
Speaker 4: get points too.
Speaker 5: So it's it's just a juicy, juicy over festival, like
Speaker 5: almost every Tampa Bay game this year. Give me over
Speaker 5: fifty and a half and the final score thirty four
Speaker 5: to twenty. Thank you, Wow, passionate Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey will be playing, according to reports, for the Niners.
Speaker 6: I don't even need them.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
Speaker 5: I don't even need him. He can sit it out.
Speaker 3: I'll still with file Shanahan saying that publicly it will
Speaker 3: be a game time decision. It sounds like, uh, he's
Speaker 3: gonna play rich before you give your two per or
Speaker 3: two picks. Here, I am a total unprofessional host football
Speaker 3: contest show, which you do with some of our favorite people.
Speaker 3: You do it with Brady Cannon, you do it with
Speaker 3: our guy James Salinas, who we love. Is also was
Speaker 3: it Kelly and Vegas is on here as well. You're
Speaker 3: doing all of that, Yeah, every week.
Speaker 5: Kelly filled it.
Speaker 7: When I was on my trip last week for my birthday,
Speaker 7: I went on a Yeah, so Kelly filled in, did
Speaker 7: a great job, and yeah, it's been going well. I
Speaker 7: mean we're in the middle of the pack, you know,
Speaker 7: as a team, and it's the dynamic of being on
Speaker 7: a team and a contest show is interesting, especially you know,
Speaker 7: James has won the Contest, the Super Contest, Brady has
Speaker 7: been part of a team and won the Super Contest
Speaker 7: as well, and James also top top three finish finisher
Speaker 7: as well. So the dynamic has been interesting. I'm learning
Speaker 7: a ton from these guys. But we're having a blast
Speaker 7: with it. You know, we got knocked out a survivor
Speaker 7: like fourteen thousand other people, but that was okay. The
Speaker 7: experience was pretty cool. But certainly with Contest and Millions, uh,
Speaker 7: we're holding our own in the pack and hopefully about
Speaker 7: to assert ourselves in the second half of the season.
Speaker 3: The Millions thing is interesting because you guys are a
Speaker 3: team and the three of you have in common that
Speaker 3: you are the nicest guys in the world. I'm curious
Speaker 3: like that, how do you if you have a disagreement,
Speaker 3: does everybody back down at the same time?
Speaker 2: Does it ever get fisty at all?
Speaker 7: You know what, we have a pre show meeting and
Speaker 7: those they're not feisty. The pre show meetings are not
Speaker 7: fiighty that went around there is it's respect it's respectful, right,
Speaker 7: Like we'll disagree respectfully, but we're in a nice manner.
Speaker 5: I guess that's the best way.
Speaker 2: To categorize this show, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5: Exactly. That's right, right.
Speaker 7: I mean we're all champions, right, I mean we can
Speaker 7: all wear rings and stuff like that, but we don't
Speaker 7: do that, right, We don't want to do that. But no,
Speaker 7: it's been humbling in terms of, you know, coming with
Speaker 7: the acumen and coming with points of view and certainly
Speaker 7: having it respected.
Speaker 5: But we think it's going well.
Speaker 7: First year we're doing it and but we're our results.
Speaker 7: I mean, we need to pick it up though, Like
Speaker 7: I said, second half of the season.
Speaker 3: Okay, Las Vegas Football Contest show part of Sports Grid, correct,
Speaker 3: part of Sports Grid.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're airing it on on their network and certainly
Speaker 7: you can catch it from wherever you find your podcasts.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, your your other two picks, sir.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you know I want to go appo will
Speaker 7: because of uh, can you name the interim head coach
Speaker 7: and in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2: Guy who is likesy or something.
Speaker 7: I mean, Dennis Allen. The only reason why Derek Carr
Speaker 7: was there is because of Alan right And.
Speaker 5: And nobody likes Derek Carr. Nobody, And I mean even
Speaker 5: on the team. It's like it's so dysfunctional down there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: I have been burned so many times betting the NFC
Speaker 7: South and and but I think Kirk Cousins is liked
Speaker 7: and I think Kirk Cousins has been an answer for
Speaker 7: this Atlanta Falcons team.
Speaker 5: Uh. And you're seeing some young.
Speaker 7: Players on that roster, they're they're not mentioned that uh
Speaker 7: that highly. You know you're talking about London Uh and
Speaker 7: Pitts and Robinson. I mean, these guys are our lead players.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 7: And certainly I think from a rivalry standpoint, that's gone.
Speaker 7: We're back to seeing the eights. I think Raheem Morris, Uh,
Speaker 7: he can do a lot better as a head coach,
Speaker 7: and maybe he will, but he has those guys playing hard,
Speaker 7: and those guys are playing physical too, especially running the football.
Speaker 7: I think when you are the Saints and you don't
Speaker 7: have anything to play for other than perhaps your jobs,
Speaker 7: but do you really want to stay down there in
Speaker 7: New Orleans in the first place.
Speaker 5: This team can fold up that tent. So I like
Speaker 5: Atlanta on the road.
Speaker 7: I know it's a bad number delay, but I like
Speaker 7: it the situation with four points right there for the Falcons.
Speaker 2: The other one, okay, yeah, I saw four.
Speaker 5: I'll take the three and a half and then the
Speaker 5: other one.
Speaker 7: You know, the Denver Broncos have been fascinating to me,
Speaker 7: and I just watched the King City Chiefs and I
Speaker 7: don't know why this is eight points, To be honest
Speaker 7: with you, guys, I really don't. But you know, with
Speaker 7: Denver and that defense and Patrick and he's a warrior.
Speaker 7: We know he's a warrior. I don't know if he
Speaker 7: says his ankle, it looked more like his need to me,
Speaker 7: maybe he's trying to get attention away from it. But
Speaker 7: a week of rehab that that thing is just gonna
Speaker 7: get more sore. And you just came off a very
Speaker 7: physical game against Tampa to you, and then Denver's defense,
Speaker 7: they can keep him in the game. I just need
Speaker 7: a little bit of offense from Poe Nicks and Sean Payton,
Speaker 7: and I think we can get that. I think there's
Speaker 7: some vulnerabilities out there on that Kansas City defense with Spags,
Speaker 7: and so I'm gonna take the points with the Broncos.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like Richard, do you feel like you know?
Speaker 3: Because last year, our buddy Aaron Shots has been on
Speaker 3: this podcast many times. He is a pioneer in football analytics,
Speaker 3: and last year he had the Ravens and the Niners
Speaker 3: as two of his best teams of all time. He
Speaker 3: tracks every play all the way back to nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3: He had the Ravens and the Niners.
Speaker 2: Of last year it's two of his top ten of
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 3: And then Patrick Mahomes rides in on his cape and
Speaker 3: none of it matters because he's Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, even though they're undefeated this year
Speaker 2: and the defense is great, that it's kind of a
Speaker 2: house of cards or do you feel like Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: is just as capable of riding in on his course
Speaker 2: or whatever the metaphor is right to just just absolutely
Speaker 2: hack the entire sport of football again this year.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes, He's he's a unicorn man. He's uh,
Speaker 7: He's a guy that is ultimate competitor. I talked to Eric,
Speaker 7: you and me about this extensively.
Speaker 5: Uh And And.
Speaker 7: Eric, Eric was a feisty competitor and as a play caller,
Speaker 7: and certainly with Andy Reid, Andy Reid, you know, his
Speaker 7: his the way that you see him, he don't. You
Speaker 7: don't see Andy Reid or perceive Andy Reid to be
Speaker 7: that competitive, but he's fiercely competitive.
Speaker 5: Uh And and Patrick feeds off that.
Speaker 7: It's not about the money with this guy, It's not
Speaker 7: it's just about being dominant.
Speaker 5: Uh, It's about this passion for the game.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: And it's contagious, you know, it's it's not more.
Speaker 7: It's not about Patrick to me, Gil and guys, it's
Speaker 7: it's more about everybody else.
Speaker 5: Like everybody else is not on his level, even Kelsey.
Speaker 7: Kelsey, when he's mixing it up and trying to block,
Speaker 7: he's he's going in there with souldiers and he's trying
Speaker 7: to protect himself and he's not playing like a dog
Speaker 7: that he's been, uh in the lead for a number
Speaker 7: of years.
Speaker 2: And so on.
Speaker 5: Hopkins Bridge, how about Hopkins.
Speaker 7: Hop de Hop I think is energized. I mean he's
Speaker 7: playing with the Hall of Fame quarterback. I mean, next
Speaker 7: this guy hasn't had that right, but de Hop is fascinating.
Speaker 7: But you got Patrick Sartan on the other side though, I mean,
Speaker 7: I for Denver, this matches up very well for them.
Speaker 7: But your question is specifically Gil he elevates things around him.
Speaker 5: Still talking about Patrick.
Speaker 7: And that defense, the only thing about that defense is
Speaker 7: very physical game, and we saw Tampa go up and
Speaker 7: down the field on him with with second team guys.
Speaker 7: I just need a little bit of offense for my
Speaker 7: bet from Denver. I think I'm gonna get a lot
Speaker 7: of defense. Or where they going to stop Patrick? He
Speaker 7: hasn't had the best year. They're not going to stop him,
Speaker 7: But can they slow him down enough to where Kansas
Speaker 7: City doesn't cover eight points?
Speaker 5: I think they can do that kind of job in
Speaker 5: this matchup.
Speaker 2: I buried the headline Where'd you go? On the cruise?
Speaker 2: Where'd you go?
Speaker 7: We went to Grand Turk, We went to the Dominican Republic,
Speaker 7: and then also we to not saw.
Speaker 2: Bahamas, oh man.
Speaker 7: We avoided hurricanes, by the way, you know, the week prior,
Speaker 7: the week prior to our trip, there was some thunderstorms
Speaker 7: and some some possibilities of hurricanes. And now this week
Speaker 7: I guess Raphael is going through Cuba. Uh so we
Speaker 7: kind of avoided some hurricanes as we went on.
Speaker 3: That cruise, urch and Caicos water, so Blue Dominican has
Speaker 3: its own beautiful sites.
Speaker 6: If you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: What do you mean that?
Speaker 2: Whats that so awesome?
Speaker 5: And we asked can we ask pritch?
Speaker 4: I feel like Andy Reid holds back some of his
Speaker 4: stuff all the time because and that's why they don't
Speaker 4: cover these big spreads very often.
Speaker 5: I feel like he holds ship back.
Speaker 4: He could kill people if he wanted sometimes, and instead
Speaker 4: he doesn't care who He'll win by seven or something.
Speaker 4: That's what you're gonna need this week, by the way,
Speaker 4: because you ain't gonna get any points.
Speaker 5: From your boyman Nicks.
Speaker 4: But my point is is, do you was that something
Speaker 4: that you experienced in the league where coaches, like real
Speaker 4: smart coaches would say, hey, yeah, sure we could blow
Speaker 4: this team out even more, but let's not use one
Speaker 4: hundred percent of the game plan. Let's use sixty nine
Speaker 4: percent of the game plan. Let's leave the other thirty
Speaker 4: one so that everybody doesn't see everything and we still
Speaker 4: have more tricks later. Is that something the smart coaches
Speaker 4: would do?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think you're on a song there, Tom, I mean,
Speaker 7: you normally go into the game with a game plan
Speaker 7: different than your entire playbook. But I think what you're
Speaker 7: alluding to is that Andy can get to his entire playbook.
Speaker 5: Like, well, we'll have, you know.
Speaker 7: Twenty five to thirty plays in a game plan, a
Speaker 7: weekly game plan, right, But if you have sixty five
Speaker 7: to seventy plays in your entire game plan, your entire playbook,
Speaker 7: then at any moment, you can get to that.
Speaker 5: That's why it looks that way.
Speaker 7: But specifically, you want to narrow it down and you
Speaker 7: want to condense it because you want to be able
Speaker 7: to execute what you've worked on all week. But the
Speaker 7: fact that they can get to anything in the playbook
Speaker 7: makes them that much more dangerous. A lot of teams,
Speaker 7: a lot of teams don't even have twenty plays in
Speaker 7: their playbook, and those teams are struggling, right, and you
Speaker 7: can notice that.
Speaker 5: But if teams can get to those twenty.
Speaker 7: Five plays or even thirty plays sometimes in a game plan,
Speaker 7: then that makes them more potent and more dangerous as
Speaker 7: well in game day. But yeah, Andy Reid, he can
Speaker 7: get to anything at any moment. They'll even make up
Speaker 7: plays on the sideline, derivatives off of things that they
Speaker 7: do based on what he's seen out there on the
Speaker 7: field throughout the game.
Speaker 3: He also like less this is like a small detail,
Speaker 3: but like he gets the players involved. He lets them
Speaker 3: call the plays what they want to call the He
Speaker 3: lets him name it what they want to name it, right,
Speaker 3: so they like get super invested in you know, oh,
Speaker 3: it's our bullshit, whatever the hell play?
Speaker 2: Remember that ring around the posey?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 7: They to be honest with you, guys, this is this
Speaker 7: is Kansas City. So Eric or even Andy Reid, they'll
Speaker 7: go back in the fifties, uh, and even in the
Speaker 7: sixties and watch football, right, watch the old film, and
Speaker 7: they'll come up with plays from those days and implement
Speaker 7: those into their game plan. But now they'll change it up.
Speaker 7: They'll they'll dress it up, they'll they'll throw an eye
Speaker 7: candy and all that. But yeah, it's just a basic
Speaker 7: belly play or it's a basic off tackle play that
Speaker 7: you used to see in the fifties or even when
Speaker 7: they threw the football. Some of the concepts that they use.
Speaker 7: Uh and in that era, uh, you know, you don't
Speaker 7: see them all the time. Right, and so the element
Speaker 7: of surprise is always on the side of Kansas City.
Speaker 2: That was like when Belichick let Fluty do the drop kick.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?
Speaker 3: He was never more animal, he was never more happy
Speaker 3: on the sideline, He's like.
Speaker 2: Oh, throw back, was it?
Speaker 5: Todd?
Speaker 2: Your last one?
Speaker 4: Now my pick then, Willie, I'm gonna go, Willie. What
Speaker 4: do you got for the Bears line in total?
Speaker 6: I am seeing thirty nine for the total?
Speaker 5: Billy, what do you see, Gilly? I see.
Speaker 6: Mostly six and a half?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's a it's primarily a six and
Speaker 3: primarily a thirty eight and a half.
Speaker 5: Thirty eight and a half, Okay, I'll take under thirty
Speaker 5: eight and a half in the Bears game. I am
Speaker 5: still not impressed with mister Caleb on offense. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you guys saw that play where he was
Speaker 5: running around and then DJ Moore just I was like,
Speaker 5: I didn't know you were allowed to do that.
Speaker 4: Back when I had a couple of coffee with the
Speaker 4: Packers in the late eighties, we weren't allowed to do that,
Speaker 4: and that was just extremely surprising to me.
Speaker 5: I didn't actually play for the Packers.
Speaker 2: Was the quarterback back then who was your quarter was
Speaker 2: Lynn Dickey?
Speaker 5: Was Lynn Dickey? But anyways, I was very surprised that
Speaker 5: you could go and sit down in the middle of
Speaker 5: a play.
Speaker 4: But anyways, that being said, I'm not really impressed with
Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears offense. I haven't been all year.
Speaker 5: I love to be a naysayer on the on the
Speaker 5: big quarterback guy like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 4: I'm always leaning in the way, like, you know, prove
Speaker 4: it to us before I'm going to get on the
Speaker 4: jump on the bandwagon. And I have a reason for it.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're that good just yet. Caleb Bay
Speaker 4: ends up being a great quarterback, but we've talked about
Speaker 4: it ad nauseum at USC just ran around and threw
Speaker 4: it the five star athletes, big deal. You got to
Speaker 4: watch the film, okay, And I don't believe he's ready
Speaker 4: on a j Jayden Daniels level doing the film the
Speaker 4: way Daniels is. I'm sorry, he's just not. So I
Speaker 4: don't have a great offense with the Bears. The Bears
Speaker 4: defense outstanding, really really good defense, and I don't see
Speaker 4: how the Patriots are going to be scoring a ton
Speaker 4: of points against this Bears defense. So to me, this
Speaker 4: smells under all over the place. Even if it's twenty
Speaker 4: eight ten, it still goes under. So I'll take under
Speaker 4: thirty eight and a half. With the Chicago Bears and
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots, who are.
Speaker 5: Going to just run the ball.
Speaker 4: We know that's the Patriots game plan, as Pritch has
Speaker 4: been talking about game plan and it's been very enlightening
Speaker 4: all day. I'll tell you what the Patriots game plan is.
Speaker 4: There's three plays. There's Remondra to the right, Remondra to
Speaker 4: the left, Remondra.
Speaker 5: To the middle.
Speaker 4: That's their playbook. So you know, give me under thirty
Speaker 4: eight a half.
Speaker 6: Todd.
Speaker 3: I quote you about that Caleb Williams comment you make
Speaker 3: all the time, like, oh, what did everybody expect? He
Speaker 3: was throwing a five stars, you know, running around, run around,
Speaker 3: and his five star wide receiver would eventually get open
Speaker 3: and he hit him deep. I quote you about that
Speaker 3: all the time. But Merril Hodge came on a Numbers
Speaker 3: game before the season, right. Hodge has made some great
Speaker 3: calls in the past, and he was like nothing. That
Speaker 3: was his reaction about Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: Mike, when does where.
Speaker 3: Does the DJ Moore running off the field mid play
Speaker 3: rank for you in terms of like NFL no nos, man,
Speaker 3: it might.
Speaker 7: Be up there with h who was a kid in
Speaker 7: Green Bay that went home, took his ball, went home,
Speaker 7: didn't practice because he wasn't in the game plan.
Speaker 2: Was that dobbs Dobbs Romeo.
Speaker 5: That's just happened this year. I mean that that blew
Speaker 5: me away.
Speaker 4: Richard You ever heard of Richardson getting too tired in
Speaker 4: the middle of the game and saying you want to too?
Speaker 5: That's up there too.
Speaker 7: But my goodness to stay home and not go to
Speaker 7: work because you're mad at the That one was an
Speaker 7: all timer right there. I never heard of that or
Speaker 7: or never thought I would hear that. But yeah, that
Speaker 7: was crazy. I mean running off like that. I mean,
Speaker 7: these guys these days, man, they're so entitled. They're so entitled, right,
Speaker 7: it's crazy to me.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: We see him broadcasting, Pritch, We see him broadcasting every week.
Speaker 4: There's a guy on here, makes a ton of money.
Speaker 4: It's a big shot, professional broadcaster. We see the entitlement
Speaker 4: on a weekly basis. And then guys like me and
Speaker 4: Willie who just you know, we're lunch pale broadcasters.
Speaker 5: You know, you take the p of it. Yep, Gil
Speaker 5: never wears his hard hat.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Thanks the thanks, I get Pritch the thanks, I get
Speaker 3: the DJ more thing. It's so interesting to hear like
Speaker 3: an old school player that I was sorry to call
Speaker 3: you old school. You know, I like it the perspective
Speaker 3: about today's players. I remember, like, you know, what is
Speaker 3: it fifteen twenty years ago?
Speaker 2: Don't hold me to the number.
Speaker 3: But like when when Brian Mitchell, Brian Mitchell is still
Speaker 3: on the radio in DC, But like when Clinton Portis
Speaker 3: would run nine yards and then he would go to
Speaker 3: the sidelines and he would do the oxygen thing. Mitch
Speaker 3: would kill him on.
Speaker 2: The radio all week. They got it this big few.
Speaker 2: He's like, you just you just ran nine yards.
Speaker 5: You really need oxygen.
Speaker 2: Leg is be Mitches like I ever. But this is
Speaker 2: like this is beyond that, right. This is like DJ
Speaker 2: Moore is so over the play that he just goes,
Speaker 2: He just goes to his bench. This is amazing. Willie
Speaker 2: Willy our last words, what do you got?
Speaker 6: Will's nothing?
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 6: I was going to take the Texans, but it doesn't
Speaker 6: look like Nico Collins is gonna play, so I can't
Speaker 6: get there with with Houston I'm gonna lay the six
Speaker 6: with San Francisco. I just think this is a get
Speaker 6: right spot. We've seen this happen with them a couple
Speaker 6: of times in recent years, where there's just.
Speaker 5: WHOA saw your role here? Gilly?
Speaker 2: Do you have it at six?
Speaker 6: I see game.
Speaker 2: Six and a half? I thought it was six.
Speaker 6: We do this every weekday, me every six and a half?
Speaker 6: Six and a half.
Speaker 2: Should we give him the six, Willy, Gilly because.
Speaker 6: I want I don't want your sympathy point. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: lay this and a half. Half points never mattered in
Speaker 6: the NFL anyway, as we.
Speaker 2: Know, no man never coming up.
Speaker 6: I just think this is a get right spot for them,
Speaker 6: getting a little healthier. Looks like they're gonna have McCaffrey back.
Speaker 6: You don't give much of a home field for Tampa.
Speaker 6: I think, like Todd said, they're going to score probably
Speaker 6: in the thirties. I just don't know that Tampa can
Speaker 6: keep up. They've actually San Francis actually played pretty well defensively,
Speaker 6: so this is I just think this is a get
Speaker 6: right spot for San Francisco. I'm okay in the points here.
Speaker 3: I have actually bet Detroit minus three and was not
Speaker 3: going to put him in the podcast because they got
Speaker 3: the three and a half, which is where we are now,
Speaker 3: and even without Nico Collins, I probably will not do that.
Speaker 2: Or wait, Billy, wait, wait, Gilly, did you hear this?
Speaker 5: Can you hear wait? Yes, I'm hearing something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Russell, Well send twelve seconds to play the
Speaker 4: score twenty seven eighteen, the Commanders nine points ahead the
Speaker 4: Steelers at the twelve yard line play action nase he
Speaker 4: throws the foremost?
Speaker 5: Did he catch out of the way this? Hey, go
Speaker 5: and gils pick?
Speaker 6: I's gonna gout out again.
Speaker 2: Prench weeds, you're purple, You're purple. I'm worried about it.
Speaker 5: I actually just did that. I did that opposite. I
Speaker 5: screwed it up. I was trying to go against your pick,
Speaker 5: and I ended up going against Prince's pick.
Speaker 2: Prich.
Speaker 5: I do this every week where I do an announced
Speaker 5: that that that ruins the pick for these guys. In
Speaker 5: one week, I actually even got it exactly what happened,
Speaker 5: and I just did it opposite, so that one was terrible.
Speaker 5: Throw it out.
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's all right, I am what is the way?
Speaker 2: I didn't do it right?
Speaker 5: I did do it. My fault I did it right.
Speaker 2: You did it right. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: What is the Arizona Jets spread.
Speaker 6: Area one and a half? Now Jets by a point.
Speaker 2: As gets by a point a half.
Speaker 3: So my choice here is do I go with Detroit
Speaker 3: even though it's gone up to three and a half
Speaker 3: at Houston, or do I go with my instinct to
Speaker 3: take the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the card The Cardinals. Thing is very simple.
Speaker 2: Number one getting a point a half, I'm getting a
Speaker 2: point in a half.
Speaker 3: I believes here's a very deep dive handicap.
Speaker 2: You're ready for this. The Cardinals are just better than.
Speaker 3: The Cardinals played a really tough schedule the first half
Speaker 3: of the year, and I know Kyler Murray does not
Speaker 3: inspire a lot of trust and confidence on a week
Speaker 3: to week basis, although he's able to find his fastball
Speaker 3: if you will often.
Speaker 2: But I like the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: I think they're like sneaky cut They're like a sneaky
Speaker 3: good team. And I think the Jets week to week
Speaker 3: have the most inflated lines in the NFL, meaning they
Speaker 3: still get this Aaron Rodgers' benefit of the doubt that
Speaker 3: should not exist and now it's after a game against
Speaker 3: Houston where Houston didn't have either of the two starting
Speaker 3: wide outs.
Speaker 2: They won't have Digs for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: It was a short week obviously. By the way, the
Speaker 2: first half of that.
Speaker 3: Game was the most disgusting display of football ever before.
Speaker 3: The Jets ended up figuring out a way to win
Speaker 3: that game. But I felt like that was more just oh,
Speaker 3: we sort of just my randomness figured out how to
Speaker 3: win that game kind of thing against the shorthanded Texan team.
Speaker 2: I like the Cardinals. I just think they're better. I
Speaker 2: think the wrong team is favorite.
Speaker 3: There you go, Okay, don't all, don't all be's flibbery acid.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just want to.
Speaker 2: Say this, Yeah, I will say this.
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson gets his yards and his catches every single week.
Speaker 4: Every all the guys when I'm down at the sports book,
Speaker 4: you know, because they love the props. Everyone's talking to Oh,
Speaker 4: I got my sixth teamer with my props, and they're
Speaker 4: all they love. I'm like, who do you got, guys,
Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson, Baby, Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 5: They love Garrett Wilson. And by the way, they're catching
Speaker 5: every week.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I feel like there is this
Speaker 2: latent pressure for Rogers to hook up with Davante right
Speaker 2: to a to a point that may not be organic.
Speaker 3: Football, throw the ball. Ok, Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just like the Cardinals here in this game. I
Speaker 3: just I'm not a Jets guy at all.
Speaker 2: And uh, and I'm kind of rooting for the worst.
Speaker 5: For them, I know.
Speaker 2: So I don't really like Aaron Rodgers do one another
Speaker 2: truth and I'm all about the Cardinals.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: Teaser of the week. God helped me pritch two team
Speaker 2: six point teaser of the week would be Oh.
Speaker 7: Boy, the has so many choices for me. I can
Speaker 7: start tonight with the Ravens on one leg.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to do that.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 7: I do want to do the Steelers, though Steelers are
Speaker 7: fourth courter team. I'm all in this all with the Steelers.
Speaker 7: I have been betting them all years.
Speaker 5: So gosh, this one, there's so many choices of Cardinals.
Speaker 5: You just mentioned that teasing them. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: settle in on I'm gonna settle in on the Ravens
Speaker 5: and the Steelers.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with the same division and
Speaker 7: combo those two teams there and my teaser playing.
Speaker 2: All right, Willie, Cardinals or Chiefs.
Speaker 6: I have our time seeing the Chiefs lose at home
Speaker 6: to uh to Bo Nicks, and I think the Cardinals
Speaker 6: Jet game will be close. If nothing else, you have
Speaker 6: just just matched mine. I'm a Cardinals Chiefs guy too.
Speaker 5: The Chiefs are minus two right Chiefs minus two and
Speaker 5: the Cards plus seven and a half.
Speaker 2: For both of you guys, both of them there too.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with with two different ones than you
Speaker 5: guys have. Wait, Chiefs minus two right, Chiefs minus two
Speaker 5: Chiefs minus toom gonna get it right, Okay, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna go with the Eagles, the Philadelphia Eagles to beat.
Speaker 4: I believe the quarterback's not gonna be Dak. It's going
Speaker 4: to be Cooper.
Speaker 2: Right, that's great.
Speaker 4: So then, by the way, with Dak, they stink, so
Speaker 4: they're gonna stink even worse. Now with whoever this other
Speaker 4: you know, I've seen him actually remember he did pull
Speaker 4: he pulled one out of his ass a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago when he was the backup.
Speaker 5: But I don't see him pulling one out of his
Speaker 5: ass this week right right.
Speaker 4: Exactly, by the way, the Eagles messed up on the totals,
Speaker 4: push ones Eagles minus one.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take them as my first leg and as
Speaker 5: my second leg, I'm gonna take l A Chargers.
Speaker 2: Where is that one right there?
Speaker 5: Against the Titans minus one and a half, So LAC
Speaker 5: minus one and a half. To me, this is just
Speaker 5: harriball football. It's been horriball football all year. Buckle everything down.
Speaker 5: We're not gonna do anything fancy. We're just gonna run
Speaker 5: the ball. We're gonna play amazing defense. We're gonna win
Speaker 5: the games we're.
Speaker 4: Supposed to win, and we might steal couple that we might. Well,
Speaker 4: we're not supposed to win. We're just not going to
Speaker 4: make any mistakes. We're gonna just grind it out. And
Speaker 4: this is against the team that is, you know, the Titans.
Speaker 4: To me is just it's fairly football. I mean, the
Speaker 4: quarterback is horrible. That everything is just horrible. So give
Speaker 4: me the Chargers just to win the game minus one.
Speaker 6: And a half. It's amazing what a good coach can do,
Speaker 6: isn't it?
Speaker 2: It is amazing? Final two questions. First, is of the
Speaker 2: big favorites, which is the most likely to lose outright?
Speaker 2: And we will do six and a half point favorites
Speaker 2: or higher. So there's gonna be five options.
Speaker 3: Giants six and a half point favorites in Munich against
Speaker 3: the Panthers, Vikings, six and a half or seven point
Speaker 3: favorites on the road against the jag Wars, also against
Speaker 3: the jag Wires, Chiefs eight point favorites at home against
Speaker 3: the Broncos, Niners six and a half point favorites on
Speaker 3: the road against the Buccaneers, and the Eagles seven point
Speaker 3: favorites on.
Speaker 2: The road against the actless Cowboys. Pritch. Of those five teams,
Speaker 2: I come to you from the future and I say,
Speaker 2: one of them lost. Who is it?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: I want to go to the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 5: They? I don't think they won at home yet.
Speaker 7: And you know, dack out you can make a case
Speaker 7: that there's no more pressure on the Cowboys, but.
Speaker 5: They they and suck like Dak talked about, they do
Speaker 5: they do?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 7: And you know when you when you think about the Eagles, uh,
Speaker 7: and you think about what's going on with that team,
Speaker 7: and they almost blew it right there with the Jags,
Speaker 7: like you guys were talking about earlier. It's just something
Speaker 7: says that with Cooper. There's no pressure on this thing. Uh,
Speaker 7: and this team sucks. I don't know if Siriani is
Speaker 7: going to keep his job. There's just so much wind
Speaker 7: out there with the Eagles. I mean, they could blow
Speaker 7: this one. They could absolutely blow this one.
Speaker 2: I like it Eagles for Pritch Toddy. I mean, I
Speaker 2: totally see how the Eagles could of course lose.
Speaker 4: I mean, just like you said, you know, it's they're
Speaker 4: just there wasn't much professionalism in that Jaguars game. They
Speaker 4: let them back in the game ridiculously, So, you know,
Speaker 4: but I think the I think Denver. I don't really
Speaker 4: think Denver can beat the Chiefs, but maybe if they
Speaker 4: got a whole bunch of turnovers and they play good defense,
Speaker 4: they hold the Chiefs down to say, I don't know,
Speaker 4: seventeen points. Somehow they get like a couple turnovers or something,
Speaker 4: maybe Denver could pull it.
Speaker 5: I don't think they will, but you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be shocked.
Speaker 6: Really. You said Minnesota at seven counts, right, yes to do? Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'll go with that one. Still, Donald, it's still on
Speaker 6: the road kind of a flat spot. I don't I
Speaker 6: don't know, I could see minnesotalism I'm with you.
Speaker 5: Did I tell you that Matt Jones is the quarterback?
Speaker 5: How do you feel about Matt Jones?
Speaker 6: Well, that was the quarterback before. It's not Mahomes. Mahome
Speaker 6: isn't the Jaguars quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. It's okay, it'll be
Speaker 6: a maybe Lawrence is playing terrible. I agree Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 6: is say I hate Trevor Lawrence. But Matt Jones, Well
Speaker 6: they have who never fumbles, never fumbles going into the
Speaker 6: end art never.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think the Jaguars aren't terrible and Minnesota
Speaker 3: has left shake. And then the final question, Let's say
Speaker 3: we live in a bizarro world. There's fourteen games this weekend.
Speaker 3: You are forced to bet a side in thirteen of
Speaker 3: the fourteen, but you get one free pass, Mike, one
Speaker 3: game that you want no part of whatsoever on the side.
Speaker 2: What came with it?
Speaker 5: Oh boy, I should be prepared for this question, Gil, Okay.
Speaker 2: I could have sent you the description again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, this is fine.
Speaker 2: Gosh, you want to you want to pass? And will
Speaker 2: that ask you ours?
Speaker 7: No, I'll take a shot at it. A game that
Speaker 7: I have I don't want anything, no part of because
Speaker 7: I'm trying to go perfect. Is that really the just
Speaker 7: of the question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't hold you to this one. We're just
Speaker 2: curious what your response would be. Okay, man, it's it's designed.
Speaker 3: The question is designed to to have a listener who
Speaker 3: would otherwise be on this game, to have pause if
Speaker 3: you say you want no part of me, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I guess the money night game. I mean the Dolphins
Speaker 7: in the Rams. It's what you got the Rams at home.
Speaker 5: They're one.
Speaker 7: You know, there's no way I can pick a winner
Speaker 7: in this game or feel competent making a bet in
Speaker 7: this game. There's injuries on both sides and you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame quarterback on one side.
Speaker 5: Just this line should be big. I think with Rams
Speaker 5: should be a bigger favorite in this one.
Speaker 7: But why aren't they not a bigger favorite with Miami
Speaker 7: traveling all the way across the country there and Miami
Speaker 7: certainly limping into this one too. So McVeigh just an outclass.
Speaker 7: I'm a coaching standpoint. It just I just can't understand
Speaker 7: why it's only they're only laying.
Speaker 5: To point at home.
Speaker 2: I like it, Dottie, I just wanted to those things.
Speaker 4: Uh, capri pants are acceptable clothing for a pro football coach.
Speaker 2: To me, I say, you go full pants or you
Speaker 2: go shorts, but you don't go caplee pants.
Speaker 5: To me, that's just me. That's that ankle thing right,
Speaker 5: it's higher than the ankle those are and the low
Speaker 5: the high cast.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 2: My thing with that is as long as they win,
Speaker 2: everybody likes it. But as soon as they start losing, man,
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, capree pants and have those?
Speaker 5: You got to know what to wear.
Speaker 2: I actually, when I was coaching, I wore the Charlie
Speaker 2: Weiss attire.
Speaker 5: If you don't remember correctly, eight billion, eight billion pounds
Speaker 5: Charlie Weiss. He was a bit offensive coordinated though. The
Speaker 5: game that I don't want is Colts Bills. I don't
Speaker 5: know who the Colts are. Are the Colts good? Are
Speaker 5: they bad? Is Flacco good? Is he bad? Can they
Speaker 5: run the ball? Can they not run the ball? What
Speaker 5: is the hell is this team? I have no idea
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 4: Against the Vikings, they couldn't even block a second for Flacco,
Speaker 4: and then other times they're just throwing it all over,
Speaker 4: run it all over.
Speaker 2: I have no idea. And then the Bills on the road,
Speaker 2: laying a lot of points I don't want any part
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 5: Really.
Speaker 6: I was going to go with Rams Dolphins too, but
Speaker 6: I'll pick a different one just to be different. I'll
Speaker 6: go Lions Texans just because I was ready to take
Speaker 6: the Texans. Texans and you're paying I think a premium
Speaker 6: for Detroit and you can usually do pretty well just fading,
Speaker 6: you know, the flavor of the week. But without Nico Collins. Boy,
Speaker 6: I don't really want to step in front of this
Speaker 6: Lion's team without Digs, without Collins, So Lion's Texans is
Speaker 6: on for me.
Speaker 2: Did you see the Lions points spread record?
Speaker 5: Did you guys see the Lions point.
Speaker 6: Campbell's covered like seventy something percent for his career. It's
Speaker 6: it's insane.
Speaker 5: It's some insane number.
Speaker 4: We're not sure whether the endless wing record or the
Speaker 4: point spread record is bigger. From Appleby's with Dan Campbell unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I had Aaron shots from football from Ano Footballers Anymore FTN,
Speaker 3: who we referenced earlier about having the Ravens and the
Speaker 3: Niners to his best teams of all time last year.
Speaker 3: He says, the Lions through eight games this year, I
Speaker 3: think they've played eight, right, They're seven and one. The
Speaker 3: Lions tore eight games are better than those teams were
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: This year's long.
Speaker 3: I'm going with the Patriots and the Bears because you
Speaker 3: could tell me anything. You could tell me the Bears
Speaker 3: one by twenty five, or you could tell me the
Speaker 3: Patriots one outright, I would believe.
Speaker 2: So I have no interest in that game. Patriots and
Speaker 2: the Bears. Thank you, gentlemen. We got to run Mike
Speaker 2: Pritchards Football Contest Show. It's podcast wherever guess are available
Speaker 2: and just all around great guy. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: You really appreciate I appreciate you, guys man.
Speaker 5: It's always a pleasure to be on with you.
Speaker 2: Thank you to the Buffalo, Bigger and Bigger Bowl. We'll
Speaker 2: see what the.
Speaker 6: Playoffs through that I got, I got a big twelve.
Speaker 6: I want him to make the playoffs. Well, yeah, that
Speaker 6: I'll take that way offs. That's possible, still possible.
Speaker 3: There's so many undefeated and one loss teams in college
Speaker 3: football still with those schedules.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Todd Wishnev from his mom's cork Attic in Pittsburgh, PA
Speaker 3: at t wish Nev on Twitter. Starting with his college
Speaker 3: basketball shizz or as that started your group college basketball stuff.
Speaker 5: And will are texting on a nightly basis.
Speaker 4: We're all over it. He likes the late unders. I
Speaker 4: like the first half overs.
Speaker 5: And necessarily under.
Speaker 6: A couple were overs last night.
Speaker 5: But you do it in general, your favorite best is
Speaker 5: oh no, the group. Yeah, I'm doing the WhatsApp group still.
Speaker 4: I haven't added any people lately because it just takes
Speaker 4: time to sit down and put all the people in.
Speaker 4: But if you send me a private message, the next
Speaker 4: time I do it, I'll put I'll put you in,
Speaker 4: and I put all my in game plays on there.
Speaker 4: I was just talking about how me and Willie will
Speaker 4: text back and forth on these uh and he has
Speaker 4: some really good uh late game in game unders. I
Speaker 4: miss the text sometimes, Willy because you put it in,
Speaker 4: you know, and it's like we only get like a
Speaker 4: second to get it, you know, at the way end there.
Speaker 5: But those, you have some good unders.
Speaker 3: Really has skins that like still put up a total
Speaker 3: with like ninety seconds left in the game or something.
Speaker 6: Usually three minutes. They cut it off at most of them.
Speaker 6: But yeah, and it's a little finish in the season
Speaker 6: with the fouling. But yeah, what was it last night?
Speaker 6: Nova was losing to an IVY League team. I was like,
Speaker 6: and they were down eleven. I was like, I think
Speaker 6: they're going to keep fouling to the bitter end, and
Speaker 6: they did. They haven't going way way over by the way,
Speaker 6: that was a great pick.
Speaker 4: Let me just say before we end, that was a
Speaker 4: great pick by Willie because they were they were They
Speaker 4: put it so high one fifty seven and a half,
Speaker 4: they had one forty three, there was three minutes left.
Speaker 4: But he made a great intuition, which was Villanova's losing
Speaker 4: to an IVY League team, They're gonna faul to the
Speaker 4: bitter end, and that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 5: That was a great pick, Willie.
Speaker 3: Thanks Todd will who is the host of the Should
Speaker 3: a Bit More podcast, which he does multiple times a week.
Speaker 3: I can be found on a Numbers game at easton
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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
Speaker 3: Good luck with all your Week ten bets and then
Speaker 3: National Football League and I'm gonna catch Don Berson