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Speaker 2: Good to see you in your voice. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's hilarious. Well, our listeners have learned so

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Speaker 7: The first year. Then it was you and Kevin and Tommy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember when you came to the show, because

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Speaker 7: Every day I'm like, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: So you still drink room temperature water, mat I.

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Speaker 4: Do, But you know what, I've changed my diet completely.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you're casting a birthday party. Wow, that's

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00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 4: that's showing your son who their true friends are, you know.

437
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: And it was like, but you guys collectively took that

438
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 4: piece of paper and just tore it up. And I

439
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, thank you you guys. And

440
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 4: you guys had you know, I always you guys always

441
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: had good heads on your shoulders, and you were always

442
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 4: talking about, hey, how can my character grow? There was

443
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: always discussions about how can I make my character grow? What?

444
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: You know, this character is the same in this episode

445
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 4: that I've done three episodes ago. Why can't you give

446
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 4: me a different issue? Why can't? And I was really

447
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 4: impressed with how much you guys cared about your characters.

448
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think you, I mean, arguably, you know,

449
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: we're kind of you become a company. You know, you

450
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: become it's like it's like a stage company, and so

451
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 3: we all worked together every day. Yeah, I mean the

452
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: the you know, guest cast would come in, they'd be

453
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: there for a day or so. But I was working

454
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: with you more than I you know, as much as

455
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: I was working with writer and Danielle and Ben. I mean,

456
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 3: we were all acting together every day, and you'd start

457
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: to get to know each other's vibe and you were

458
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: very much there for all of that.

459
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 5: So we're not only kind of but also our directors

460
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 5: were changing. Yeah, so in a weird.

461
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 6: Way, like Matt was there, like he was part of

462
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: ours team as the actors. Right when these new directors

463
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 6: are writers, it would always be like those people would

464
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: be changing, but like our little actor crew, like we

465
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 6: were always there all day, every day, rehearsing together.

466
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: So fun. Yeah, and it was you know, I remember

467
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 4: it was great. You know, David was so great grow

468
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 4: gracious as a director, and Jeff was so gracious as

469
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: a director. And I remember there are a couple of others.

470
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: There was Alan, and then John Tracy came in and

471
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: directed a few. David Kendall directed a few, so you know,

472
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: it was it was a really interesting experiencing how you

473
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 4: guys adapted to each each new voice, you know. You know.

474
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: Another thing that I thought was really impressive was the

475
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: way Michael handled everything in that I would see. I

476
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: would watch run throughs that were hysterically funny, hysterically funny.

477
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this has got to

478
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 4: stay in. Yeah, and then when Michael gave notes, he

479
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, it was funny, but was it truthful?

480
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 4: And you know, he always went for the truth rather

481
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: than I think that's what was part of what boy

482
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 4: means world staying power was. It wasn't always for the

483
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: cheap laughs. You know, it was always for let's help

484
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: these characters grow. This is what the story's about. And

485
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: I really was I really learned a lot listening to

486
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 4: him during the run throughs and you know, giving notes.

487
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: So, yeah, show has heart for sure.

488
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, And he knows sitcom.

489
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you say what you want about Michael, but

490
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: the man knows especially family sitcom backwards, forwards and sideways.

491
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. And that was apparent, Yeah, really apparent. Yeah. Yeah.

492
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: So being a stand in on a kid show, you

493
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: were probably standing in for any one of us when

494
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: we were in school or doing something else. Do you

495
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: happen to have any memorable interactions with Bill Daniels.

496
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 4: I don't. I was, you know, I was listening to

497
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: other previous podcasts, you know, and I heard DD's podcasts.

498
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 4: She was talking about Bill Daniels as well. I kind

499
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: of like was in the same boat. I was like,

500
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 4: oh my god, seventeen seven, twenty six n Adams for

501
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: a few years, and you know, I was like, I

502
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: was like quietly admiring of him. You know, I never

503
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: really had any interaction with him, just there's how how

504
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 4: are you type of thing, and you know, it was just, yeah,

505
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: I just never I always kept I was kind of

506
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: shy that way. If I was admiring of someone, or

507
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: if I had really had a fan kind of thing

508
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: that happened, I'd be like, I'm.

509
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Not not going to approach.

510
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 4: I'm just going to keep my distance because I'll just watch.

511
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: We kind of felt the same, at least for the

512
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 3: first few years. I mean, we felt the same where

513
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: it was like, okay, well we'll just keep our distance

514
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: and try to annoy him as little as possible.

515
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 7: Exactly.

516
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

517
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: Now, do you remember the week that we did Model

518
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: Family with Kathy Ireland.

519
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: Yes, you played the photographer.

520
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: I was the photographer. Yeah, that was a great experience.

521
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: And and do.

522
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 7: You remember what happened that week with your hair?

523
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 4: With my hair? Oh? I put it up.

524
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So I don't know if you were, if

525
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 3: you want to tell that story, if you remember, because

526
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: I reman, do I remember that because you and I

527
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: had a conversation right after it happened.

528
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: I think I put it because it was long, and

529
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 4: somebody said it was in my face, so I put

530
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: it in a ponytail. Yeah.

531
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they put it in a So they were sitting

532
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: there and we're doing the run like so a lot

533
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: of times the stand ins will stand in not only

534
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: for us, but also in the run throughs for the

535
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: guest cast before they haven't cast somebody or something like that.

536
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: So there was the part of the photographer, and so

537
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 3: of course you stepped in and you know, you did

538
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: it for the run through, and they were like, well.

539
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 7: It's just be mad, like you should you should just

540
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 7: do the part.

541
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: So you're doing the part, and you had your hair

542
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: down the whole week, and then we go to shoot

543
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: and I guess the war makeup and hair. Somebody put

544
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: your hair in a ponytail and we're shooting and then

545
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: you hear Michael.

546
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no no.

547
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: All week long, I'm watching this guy, this photographer has

548
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: long hair and why is it up like that? And

549
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: oh my god, and you turn around and you're kind

550
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: of ashen face because Mike, that's how you said. So

551
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: they come out, they pull it, they shake it down,

552
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: we do the scene. You come over to me after,

553
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: You're like that was terrifying. I thought he was gonna

554
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: fire me, Like, oh my god, yeah, I'll never forget

555
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: your face.

556
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 7: You're like that was terrifying.

557
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: My first experience that I'm blowing on my go.

558
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 6: You up on the show so often, like five episodes

559
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 6: we keep seeing You're like, oh, that's so great.

560
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: It was, you know, it was it was really I

561
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: really appreciated all of that because it was just like

562
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 4: I still get residual checks and you know, I still

563
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: work at AMDA right now as an academic advisor, and

564
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: the students come to me. It's like, oh my god,

565
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: I saw a Boy Meets World or I saw Castle

566
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: or I saw and I'm like, oh yeah. So it's

567
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: it's you know, the fact that this show is still iconic.

568
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: You know, even my freshman when I talked to my

569
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: freshman last year, like, oh my god, I love that

570
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: show and it's really crazy, you know, so it was

571
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: really good to be part of a part of this

572
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: iconic experience. You know.

573
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, I want to know how many times have your

574
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: students recognized you as playing the Lunatic in an episode

575
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: the Eskimo episode of Boy Meets World.

576
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: I'm the one that says jump right, yelling jump.

577
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: Yes and one.

578
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if they you know, uh, I think

579
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: they remembered the the weatherman, yes, that as well. I

580
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 4: think they remember that and the photographer. I don't think

581
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: we talked about I don't think I've ever talked about

582
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: the Lunatic one.

583
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 8: But you also got to be chummy at one point, right, Yes,

584
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 8: I mean I did, but I was like, you know,

585
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 8: I saw myself is chumpy.

586
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: I watched the run through. I watched myself from going Oh,

587
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: I was so over the I was like, oh my god,

588
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm over doing that, you know.

589
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, we thought you were great.

590
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate that.

591
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: We have enjoyed every time your face has popped on screen.

592
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 2: You're also in, aren't you? In the Sprinkles episode you're

593
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: you don't don't think you say anything, but you're. You're

594
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: very featured in the episode with this in the yogurt

595
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: cup where the sprinkles are falling from the park.

596
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: We shot it in the park and we have to

597
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: put the goggles on because Dosh Sprinkles is coming.

598
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: And then yeah, Jesus, I forgot all about that one.

599
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember seeing you prominently feature there. It literally

600
00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: every single time it's happened, we go and there's.

601
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: Mad Yeah, we love it.

602
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember did you watch the episodes when they aired?

603
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: I did? Yeah, I did. I uh, yeah, I watched

604
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 4: the episodes every time. You know, I definitely did, because

605
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: you know, I wanted to see it. I wanted to

606
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: see what you know, you want to see what happens

607
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: during the run through and how the laugh track works

608
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: and how all of that works and how it's all

609
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: put together. And I was very interested also because I've

610
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: directed Stage, I was very interested in seeing how the

611
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: how the direct the sitcom, which was very similar to

612
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: Stage because it's very proscenium, right, and seeing how they

613
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: everything got edited together, and so it was very it

614
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: was very good to see, like seeing it the run through,

615
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: seeing the whole thing and then seeing how the pieces

616
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: were put together. So yeah, I watched a lot of

617
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: the episodes.

618
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: So when you joined us then in season one, do

619
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: you remember what you thought of the show? Did you

620
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: think like, hey, this is a good show.

621
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: I didn't know what to think, to be honest with you,

622
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: because it was I was very green when it came

623
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: to being on that show. Like I said, I came

624
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 4: from the theater, so seeing everything, it was getting to

625
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: know everybody, and I'm I'm like the type of person

626
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 4: that kind of I slink back, I look, I observe

627
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: first before I kind of like go in. And I

628
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: was like, these these are this seems like a really

629
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: good family that I feel like I'm just a guest

630
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: right now, because I wasn't.

631
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't there episode.

632
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 4: The beginning, and so I'm like, okay, I'm a I'm

633
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 4: a guest. And then you know, when Arlene was like, yeah,

634
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: we'd love to hire you back, I was like, oh, oh, okay, cool,

635
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: this seems like fun. So it was. But I just

636
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 4: saw a great group of like one huge family. Yeah,

637
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: from the beginning, at least from what I experienced, And

638
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: that was like from the sixth episode in that you guys.

639
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 4: It's got a long great but seeing all you kids

640
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 4: like so tiny grow, well, some of.

641
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: Us grew, so, some of us grew, some of us

642
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: stayed tiny, grew in the wrong direction. I was wider

643
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: wid yeah, but but I.

644
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: Do remember It's like all of you were so good.

645
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: I remember, Danielle, when you first came in, you weren't

646
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: to Panga, you were.

647
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

648
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: I think I was there for that. I think I

649
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: was there for that.

650
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: So I think that was episode four. So you were

651
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: there for episode four.

652
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: Oh maybe I was. Maybe it was episode four, But

653
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 4: I remember that that you were the friend and and

654
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: and that that kind of like was a good learning

655
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 4: experience for me too, because I was like, well, any

656
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 4: time someone could say this is right, this person is better,

657
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: let's bring them in. I think it happened with uh,

658
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: with you will with Jason, Yeah, I came in. I

659
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: was supposed to be your buddy and it just didn't

660
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 4: work out. And I was there.

661
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: We worked with him until shoot day and then he

662
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: was gone, and then Marsden came in and that was it. Yeah,

663
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: we had Jason for just that one day. Yeah, we

664
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: would see that all the time. It was it was crazy.

665
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: Lots of that first season, lots of firing, lots of

666
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: fire out season. Were you married at the time that

667
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 3: you that used to Boy?

668
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: You were? In fact, my my daughter was born during

669
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 4: during while I was on Boy. Me's my oldest daughter.

670
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 4: She's thirty now, so that's another thing that oh my god,

671
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 4: I'm aging. We all. Uh she was thirty at the time. No,

672
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 4: not at the time.

673
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: She was zero at the time.

674
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, zero at the time. Yeah, but I was married

675
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: at the time, still married, And now I have two girls.

676
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: One my youngest once in college and my oldest one

677
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: is thirty living in New York and she so yeah,

678
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 4: so it's been a and you know, it's been it's

679
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 4: been a whirlwind. Yeah. Yeah.

680
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: Are your daughters in the business at all? Are they entertainer?

681
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 4: No? No, thankfully, no one is. You know, one did

682
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: go to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts. She it

683
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 4: wasn't for her, she didn't like it. And now she's

684
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 4: working for an attorney in New York. And my old

685
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 4: my youngest daughter is going to school for biochemical chemistry

686
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: you know jobs, yeah, real jobs. So but it's it's

687
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of you know, my my oldest daughter.

688
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: You know, I said, okay, let's take you some acting classes.

689
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: Let's see if it's for you, if you want to

690
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: try it. And no, because she would she would come

691
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 4: see our plays. She would come see our plays, and

692
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: you know, she'd be on the school yard acting the

693
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: mouth the next day, you know, and I'm like, she

694
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: wants to do this, so but now she she was not.

695
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 4: That was not for her.

696
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: Well, we mentioned the the different directors that would come through.

697
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember having a favorite director, Like do you

698
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 2: remember seeing somebody's name on a script and going, oh, yes,

699
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: I can't wait for this week.

700
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: Well it was, I mean I really learned from Jeff

701
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: and David. I thought they were amazing. They were the two,

702
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: of course, you know, favorites of mine because they've been

703
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: there the longest. Yeah. Alan was very very nice to me,

704
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: and I know there was a there was kind of

705
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: a descriptive he wasn't used to working on kids shows,

706
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: I don't think.

707
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice to me too, and to writer.

708
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: I mean, if if he liked you and you got along,

709
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: he was great.

710
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

711
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: But but there were I know, some people definitely had

712
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: a problem with his style of direction.

713
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, in his style of communication, which was so I'm

714
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: not used to working with kids, but you know, having

715
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: Jeff there and also Lynn was there so then too,

716
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: it was it was really you know, it added to

717
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: that family atmosphere. And then John Tracy, you know, I

718
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: liked what he did. David was great. David knew how

719
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: to move things. You know, let's go, let's go, you know. Uh,

720
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 4: And David Kendall was like that as well. So I

721
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: would say, you know, David and Jeff, David Trainer and

722
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: Jeff McCracken were my two favorites because they were just

723
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: so easy going. There was no drama. They just did

724
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 4: it and and you know there was, it was very quick.

725
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 4: And one thing I do there was there was a

726
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: Halloween episode, a scream episode, yeah, that Jeff directed, and

727
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: again it was one of those that he edited in

728
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: such a way that I thought was so creative, and

729
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: you know, reading the script itself, I'm like, oh my god,

730
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 4: this is hysterical. It was like one of those where

731
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: you thinking, oh my god, this is hysterical. But he

732
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: edited it in a way that was just so creative,

733
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: and I thought it was so interesting what he did

734
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: with that script, so so things like that you look

735
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: at and you and you and you say yourself, oh,

736
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 4: this this creativity allowed in this sitcom, sitcom format.

737
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: Absolutely. We also got to interview the great Jackie Fell

738
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: this year. It was the team of stand ins close.

739
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: It was. It was especially you know, you know, Kevin

740
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: and Tracy I adore, you know, they're just such lovely people.

741
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: And then we had some you know, other standings that

742
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 4: came and went and things like that. But when Jackie

743
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: came in, it felt like that was a completion to

744
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: the puzzle. Yeah, yeah, you know, she she just fit

745
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: in so perfectly, and we just all got along so great.

746
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: And she I mean, she's just a marvelous person. She

747
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, it just was a missing piece of the

748
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: puzzle that just got finally got put together. And I

749
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: get along, you know, we all get along great. I

750
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: do remember her and I heard her podcast. I heard

751
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: her on the show too, and just talking about being

752
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: that waitress. Funny, that was one of the funniest things

753
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 4: I've ever seen on the show. And you know, it

754
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: was just a great experience. Yeah, bringing her in was

755
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: just really that's what I felt like. We were a completion,

756
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 4: you know.

757
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: So I have to ask, because I'm a huge television fan,

758
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: take Boy meets World out of the equation. Uh huh,

759
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: what's your favorite set that you've worked on That wasn't

760
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Boy because obviously Boys gonna be your number one answer,

761
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 3: no matter what.

762
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 4: Lincoln Lawyer was. Yeah, I was. That was a fun set.

763
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: I liked that, and I liked Castle. It was a

764
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: fun set, well, not fun, I was. It was. It

765
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 4: was just a good, easy going you do it, you're in,

766
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: you do your drop, you're out, and uh, you know,

767
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 4: Quantum Leap was was interesting.

768
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 7: Yes, the Quantum Leap is oh Man. To have spent

769
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 7: some time on that set would have been great.

770
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: For a first experience. It was really it was a

771
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: really good, nice easing moment. But those were nice. I

772
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 4: mean I think every set I've been on, Criminal Minds,

773
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: every set I've been on was very was very nice.

774
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say the favorite was Lincoln Lawyer

775
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: because I was I knew Bruce Davidson, who played the

776
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: judge in that episode like years ago, like when I

777
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: first came out here. I got to know him and

778
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: it was great seeing him again. So I had a

779
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 4: little friendly face on the set as well.

780
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always n yeah, so.

781
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: It's kind of put my mind at ease. You know,

782
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, we kind of just just gabbed backstage

783
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: and brought up old memories and things like that, so

784
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 4: let's cool.

785
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: You were also in the will Smith Williams Sisters movie

786
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: King Richard. You played a tennis coach in that. Do

787
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: you have any stories about that experience?

788
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 4: Tennis Dad number two?

789
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: I love it.

790
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 4: It was it was. It was a good experience. No

791
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: I because I I I'm the one that gives him

792
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: the line, hey, your other daughter's good too. I forget

793
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: what it was, but it was something along those lines,

794
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: kind of introducing that. Venus was there. Uh, Serena, Serena,

795
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, but Serena was there too. And you know,

796
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: I kept checking IMDb pro I'm checking that and it

797
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 4: wasn't on there. I'm like, oh, maybe I was cut.

798
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh my god, If I was cut,

799
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: that's wrong because that was like a that was like

800
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: a huge moment, moving moment, and and so I was

801
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: like okay. And again I didn't tell anybody.

802
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: Until it came out.

803
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: Because I was invited to the premiere and I didn't

804
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: go because again I didn't want to see my you know,

805
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 4: go and not see myself. It'd be like kind of

806
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: like then go in and I had one day's work

807
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: and I'd be like, who are you? What did you do?

808
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: You know? And I have a very weird kind of

809
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: thing like that. So but a friend of mine who

810
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 4: had a bigger role in it, went to see it,

811
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: and you know, I saw his Facebook post saying, well,

812
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: I went to see you know, King Richard. I was cut,

813
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: but my buddy Matt Kirkwood is in it. So they

814
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: cut him out really fromone now you know, no, they

815
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 4: cut him out there Jesus. But I was. I was

816
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: a little nervous, you know, hesitancy has then because I

817
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 4: didn't want to you know, I didn't want people to think, oh,

818
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: he's in it. Oh I didn't see him. So I

819
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 4: am kind of like that, like I don't tell anybody

820
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: until until I actually see myself in it or someone

821
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: lets me know in a minute.

822
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 6: So my first job, I was of three weeks on

823
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 6: a movie. I had one line in the script. They

824
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: gave me two extra lines while we were filming, but

825
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 6: I had to be in the back of this. It

826
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 6: was part of this family in this like dust Bowl

827
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 6: h California situation, and it was like a grapes of

828
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 6: wrath rip off. And then they called and said, we

829
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 6: need writer to come do looping, and I said, they

830
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: called my mom and I said, but I only had

831
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 6: one or one line, and they're like, oh, actually, yeah,

832
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 6: we don't need writer come do looping.

833
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 5: So when we actually watched the episode, it's somebody. It's

834
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: like clearly a woman's voice, Like they took my one line.

835
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 7: And dugged me over.

836
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 6: Oh, my agent had to send out postcards because that's

837
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: what you used to do, send out postcards if you

838
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 6: were going to be able to Now all the casting directors,

839
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 6: so like everybody in Hollywood saw my my one line

840
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 6: that wasn't even my voice.

841
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

842
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: I remember that was my experience. I was eleven years old,

843
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 6: and I remember being like, I'm never telling anybody. I'm

844
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 6: I'm month wait which movie was this again? Long Road

845
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: Home Mark Harmon, but it was It's it's yeah. But

846
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 6: like that was I had very early lesson, like don't

847
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 6: tell anybody you're going to be on TV. Don't just

848
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: don't even bother, don't bother because you never know what's

849
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: going to happen.

850
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, one role I want to know absolutely everything about

851
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: in painstaking detail. Is your time in Taylor Swift's music

852
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: video No.

853
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: No, I wish I wish I was?

854
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: That was Mark, Yeah, exactly. It's on IMDb. So that's

855
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: just something we you.

856
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 5: Know, the Matt Kirkwood out there.

857
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: Maybe I think there's another Matt Kirkwood who's a weather

858
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 4: man in Ohio or something.

859
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: So maybe which which video is the other Matt Kirkwood in?

860
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 4: Now? Which saw it's for?

861
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: I bet you think about me for her remade version

862
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one.

863
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 4: Oh okay, so I have to see that.

864
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's on your IMDb. So i'd start telling people.

865
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: Come up with some stories, Matt. Yeah, come out with

866
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: some stories about how amazing it was.

867
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 4: So when I worked with Taylor, you keep going.

868
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Call Taylor because we know colored t t.

869
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: Teez whizzle. That's fine.

870
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

871
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 3: One thing I was trying to remember because am I wrong?

872
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: Did you leave for like a season?

873
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: No? I did, though I left after the sixth sixth season.

874
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 7: That's what it was, Okay, I thought, so yeah.

875
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: And because and only normally, and it was only because

876
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: I really it was a great experience. I learned a lot.

877
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: But the thing is, as an actor, was very difficult

878
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: to go out for auditions. And Stephen and Michael shay

879
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: Steve Hayfer and Michael she were amazing. They were like,

880
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: all right, can you go now? Can you go now?

881
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 4: Or come back? Because I knew what I was needed,

882
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, And I was needed as that was part

883
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: of my job, that was what I was getting paid for,

884
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: that was what I was needed for. So but it

885
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 4: was like I would get auditions, like in the middle

886
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: of the day, and I would have to go out,

887
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't I don't want to

888
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 4: get in trouble. I don't want to get Steve or

889
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: Michael in trouble. I know they were doing their best,

890
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: and and I didn't know, you know, if I should

891
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: stay on because of that. You know, It's like where's Matt,

892
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: you know? And I know how the schedule you guys

893
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: were on tight schedule. He's still in school, you know,

894
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 4: And and so I I that's why I left. I

895
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: was I got to find a job that yes, doesn't

896
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 4: you know, that pays the bills, but doesn't you know,

897
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: doesn't have that that that obstacle, you know, That's my

898
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: main goal.

899
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: That feeling even just hearing you talk about it, of

900
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: like you have you're an actor, you were working, you

901
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: were booking jobs. That stress of like, I have the

902
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to book an acting job versus mess being here

903
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: for being a stand in, and I'm not sure if

904
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to go because I'm currently

905
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: getting paid for this job, but I might have to

906
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: pass up this opportunity. Like the fact that you stuck

907
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: that out for six seasons. Yeah, that stress is that's

908
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: that's a lot that's hard to take on. So I

909
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: can totally understand. And you're like, all right, this show

910
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: sixth season, Come on, how much longer is this thing

911
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: gonna last?

912
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: Anyway, I so missed working on the show. It was

913
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: a hard decision to make, but I so missed working

914
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: on it because you guys, again it was like this

915
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 4: is this job is gold. And I love you know,

916
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: I love when I'm working. I love doing, you know, watching,

917
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: I love observing, I love learning, you know, and and

918
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 4: you know, I got to sit in editing booths and

919
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 4: and selled editing and it was it was really cool

920
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: and so but it was a very tough decision, very tough.

921
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: So but I think you guys won one more season

922
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 4: after that.

923
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: We did ye seven. Yeah, we did a seventh season.

924
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: Do you still keep in touch with anybody from the show?

925
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 4: I well through Facebook. You know Jackie and Michael Shay

926
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: I saw a few years ago because at at we

927
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 4: had these Hollywood Nights at this college, and we'd had these.

928
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: We'd sometimes we bring in casting directors to talk to

929
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: the students, sometimes we bring in agents. But one time

930
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 4: we brought in television sitcom people and I asked Michael

931
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: and he came in and spoke and it was a

932
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: great experience. You know, he loved it because this is

933
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: he also was credited for working on How I Met

934
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 4: Your Mother? Yeah, and so I got to know him.

935
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: I got to work, you know, see him again, and

936
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: that was really cool.

937
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: Us out. I just saw Michael Shay not even a

938
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: month ago. He is working on Happy's Place for NBC

939
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: and I am directing over at Lopez Versus Lopez and

940
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: NBC did a big our our sitcom Our Sitcoms and

941
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: like a little party, and Michael Shaye was there and

942
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: so I got to see him face to face and

943
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: give him a hug. We took a picture together. I

944
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: sent it to the guys. So, yeah, I just saw

945
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 2: Michael not even a month ago.

946
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see. Yeah, he's such a I mean again,

947
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: everybody was so great to work on work on the show.

948
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 4: Everybody that worked on the show was amazing.

949
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: It really was.

950
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 4: Everyone was Jarry McCain and and Michael and and the

951
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: David who is the sistant prop guy.

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: He was really cool, Mark Pabsen, Mark Mark.

953
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: We just talked to David Glazer too, so we just

954
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: we've got everybody.

955
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, David and Mark and then Chris,

956
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 4: Chris Cayer, Yes, I remember Lindsay and who is the

957
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 4: Lily Lily Ridgeway. I'm so sorry and Lily. Yeah, but

958
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: you know what, Lily does a lot of stage work.

959
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: Now I see her and I was like, oh, I'm

960
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: so glad she's she's because I met it. It was

961
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 4: very hard for her being so young, yeah, and being

962
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: in this atmosphere, so it was it was great to see.

963
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, my gosh, she was doing a show.

964
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 4: It out in I guess Ventura or something. Oh, that's

965
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: so cool that she's still doing this, you know. And

966
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: one of the funniest lines I still can't get I

967
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: still he's one of the funniest lines the series ever

968
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: did was when uh Lindsey came down the stairs I'm out. Ever,

969
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 4: what a great intro it really was.

970
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: So we talked a little bit about your teaching. What

971
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: is some of the best advice you think you give

972
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: to acting students who want to make it as a

973
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: career in the entertainment industry.

974
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: Now, training, keep training, And I always say, start out

975
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 4: in theater. Theater. You're really learning how to build a

976
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: character from the beginning. Yeah, you know, the arc of

977
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: the character, their journey, whatever their journey is, and that

978
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: that whole feeling of the live audience experiences is so

979
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: it's so paramount or tantamount to to that feeling on stage.

980
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 4: Is that feeling of oneness? I think that's that experience

981
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: of being on stage because I have some I have

982
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: seen some actors they start out on TV and then

983
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: they come on stage and then they they don't know

984
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: what to do with their hands. They just stand there

985
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: like sticks. They used to be from from here up.

986
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: But I always say, you know, stage, start out in theater,

987
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: start out finding a technique, whether it's Stanislavsky check off,

988
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: Huda Hogen Meisner, whether it's any of the start out

989
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 4: with something just to give you something to start with,

990
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: just to give you something that you can pull out

991
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 4: of your bag you need it, and then learning other

992
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: techniques as well, because you know, Stan Slawsky doesn't work,

993
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 4: so we need to pull out check off, you know,

994
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: and have that grab bag of different techniques. That's one

995
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 4: thing I tell them. It's just to stay trained, keeping

996
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: training even after you graduate. Yeah, and and don't don't uh,

997
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: don't give that up because uh, people say it's like

998
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: riding a bicycle. It really isn't. You know. You have

999
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 4: to get back and getting the footwork in and getting

1000
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: the getting the training in.

1001
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 2: But if it's riding a bicycle, I have to say,

1002
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: having done it not that long ago as an adult,

1003
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: it's not. It's still difficult.

1004
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 7: I was riding a bike.

1005
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: It's not trouble, but it's not like it's just oh yeah,

1006
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: this is second nature. I was like, oh, balance and

1007
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: the bike and.

1008
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 5: Cannot ride a bike it. I mean she can, but technically,

1009
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 5: but every time she she hates it. She just hates it.

1010
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: So like life rented bikes when we travel and she's

1011
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 5: had multiple accidents.

1012
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: She just d yeah, she like, I guess who rode

1013
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: a bike? Will?

1014
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 7: I just rode a bike for eighteen miles in Aspen?

1015
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 4: Wow?

1016
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Okay, well two shit.

1017
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: For most adults, drop shutdown, Danielle.

1018
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: For most adults, I don't think it's the most comfortable

1019
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: if you haven't done it in a long time. But

1020
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: it's just like riding a bike.

1021
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 7: It's literally in the.

1022
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 2: Same I get it, But the saying isn't the same.

1023
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: The saying isn't good.

1024
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 5: You probably weren't great at riding the bike even when

1025
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: you were a kid.

1026
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: Not true. I was great, although I do have a

1027
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: scar from falling off a bike, so that's true. You're right, you're.

1028
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: My oldest daughter doesn't ride a bike. She never rode

1029
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: a bike. We're in an apartment for like years, so

1030
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: she never really had a place to ride a bike.

1031
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: Now my youngest daughter can ride. But but yeah, riding

1032
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: a bike is is you know, For me, it's once

1033
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 4: you get on, it's easy. But yeah, but for you guys,

1034
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: maybe for Danielle, it's different.

1035
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: For me, it's just not I don't think it's a

1036
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,959
Speaker 2: great I don't think it's great saying that's what I'm saying.

1037
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 7: What would your version of that saying be then, Danielle,

1038
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 7: for you.

1039
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: It's a donut, You'll never have a hard time meeting

1040
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: another day.

1041
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: Something you had to learn as a kids that doughnuts were.

1042
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 6: Not bagels, to stop eating doughnuts exactly.

1043
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: And then also donuts and bagels are two different things.

1044
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: There were a lot of things I had to learn

1045
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: about it. But now that no, Mom, I know it.

1046
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: I'll never mistake it again. Anyway, this isn't about me object.

1047
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's great.

1048
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: So finally, Matt, did you ever think, with as much

1049
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: as you saw on set over the six seasons that

1050
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: you were there, did you ever think we would still

1051
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: be talking about this show thirty years later?

1052
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: I I think, yeah, I did. I mean thirty years later.

1053
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I did think that it was

1054
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: it was something that was going to last. It was uh,

1055
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: something that was that was again I want to say iconic,

1056
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: but it was something that was going to last because

1057
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: you lasted six seasons, and the stories did grow and

1058
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 4: they got more serious, and they got more truthful, and

1059
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: they got more It was more about issues. It was

1060
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: more about you know, It wasn't just like, oh, you know,

1061
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 4: Will forgot to take out Eric forgot to take out

1062
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 4: the trash. But an episode on that it was you know,

1063
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 4: there's some stories there was about abuse and and and

1064
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 4: growing up with an alcoholic parent. You know, only I

1065
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 4: thought was really, you know, that was going to last.

1066
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: I had a feeling that those stories carried through because

1067
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: people still relate to them. You know. It wasn't it

1068
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 4: wasn't uh you know, like I said, Stock family sitcom

1069
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: issues was real issues and and they, like I said,

1070
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: listening to the way Mike Michael handled things and the

1071
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 4: way they were directed and the way you guys grew

1072
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: it was just something I knew was going to be. Uh,

1073
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 4: it was gonna be long lasting thirty years, I don't know,

1074
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 4: but yeah, have a say never, especially in this time

1075
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 4: where it's like nobody remembers anything that happened five minutes ago,

1076
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, Like I don't remember being in the

1077
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift video exactly.

1078
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: No, you were so good in it.

1079
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god. I got to give her a call.

1080
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 4: She gave me a number.

1081
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: You are never, ever, ever, ever gonna remember being in

1082
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: a Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Swift well with the lyrics.

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Speaker 7: Little tea Swifty for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, thank you so much for being with us

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Speaker 2: here today. Where can is there a project you you're

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00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: working on you'd like us to know about? Where can

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00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: people find you? What would you? Where would you? What

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00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 2: would you like people to know about you today?

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Speaker 4: God? Well, I'm still working at Amber right now, academic advising.

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00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: I still direct and do theater once in a while,

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Speaker 4: and I still you know, I still go out on auditions,

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00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: but or self tapes or things like that. Oh, I

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00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: hate self tapes. I just think it's like you got

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00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 4: to put everything up and you got to, like, you know,

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: make sure the take is perfect, and if it's not,

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00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's either perfect or by the end of

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00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: three hours you're going to I'll just send this one

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Speaker 4: because I love the idea of going into a room

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Speaker 4: and getting redirected, you know, which is.

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Speaker 3: Where we're just having that conversation about just wanting to

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Speaker 3: be directed.

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Speaker 7: How important it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, because that's I mean. And now

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Speaker 4: now what I see people are asking for is like

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Speaker 4: two takes. So it's like, you know, send in two

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Speaker 4: different takes if you want, you know, if you feel

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00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: like the first take you want to give us something different,

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Speaker 4: do that. But you know, I like the fact that

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Speaker 4: it's like maybe I'm missing a step here, maybe I'm

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Speaker 4: missing the uh you know, you know you try to

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Speaker 4: watch the show beforehand, or you know, you try to

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Speaker 4: look at some to see how the style of the

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Speaker 4: show goes, and you know, you try to bring that

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Speaker 4: into it. But you know, you want somebody to go, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but before this scene happened.

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Speaker 3: So well, it's because real acting is is a give

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: and take, and now it's just give and that's okay,

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 3: that's it's half of the process.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you have a reader that's like on

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 4: zoom while you're looking in your camera, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it's like it just seems kind of yet. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so that's the thing. Right. So right now I'm working

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Speaker 4: at American Academy of Musical and Dramatic Arts as academic advisors,

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Speaker 4: so uh in Hollywood. But yeah, that's what I'm doing now,

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Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully I'll get more work. Hopefully I'll

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Speaker 4: you know, just like everybody else, Hopefully.

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Speaker 2: We will be there cheering you on the next time

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Speaker 2: you books thing. Please let us know. We will let

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Speaker 2: our dear listeners know when that is where to look

1132
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Speaker 2: for you. Thank you so much for joining us. It

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Speaker 2: was such a pleasure to see you and to hear

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Speaker 2: your voice again. Thank you for spending your time with us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, and good luck with the rest of

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Speaker 4: the you know, rest of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: You know, nice to see you too.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Matt all right, bye bye.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, you're right.

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Speaker 7: That voice. It brings you right back, doesn't it.

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00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: I know his voice is exactly the same. The minute

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Speaker 2: he said hi, I was like, it is so fun.

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Speaker 5: It's so interesting to think that he was like our

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00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 5: first audience. Mm hmmm, oh yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Like, because you do the run through or the read through,

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00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 6: and then you go to rehearse and it's really just

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Speaker 6: Steve Hayfer him.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's like our stand ins and our prop and our

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 6: director and then our stage manager and that's kind of it.

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Speaker 5: They're the ones that, like you have to feel comfortable

1152
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Speaker 5: with and laughing at your jokes or not. I don't know.

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 5: It's so interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And first season it was just Matt and then

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Speaker 3: three little people, right, so it was yeah, so he

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Speaker 3: essentially he would stand in for any of the adults, right,

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Speaker 3: and then the little people would stand in for all

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Speaker 3: the kids.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 2: of Podmeets World. As always, you can follow us on

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