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Speaker 1: We like to welcome you to another episode Against the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast and I'm with my dog. Yeah, and again

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Speaker 1: for like the umpteenth week in a row, we have

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Speaker 1: our special guest co host journalists extraordinary Mster Soren Baker.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Glad to be here and.

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Speaker 1: Live you know via saturllite San Francisco, not via satall

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Speaker 1: like it's he live here in person. Say to you

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Speaker 1: the bigger figure, the world's greatest hustling.

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Speaker 3: Come on with it, Saluke.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be here for sure, for sure, Man, do

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Speaker 1: me your favorite brother, grab the Michael a little bit

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Speaker 1: more towards you if you can.

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Speaker 4: We want to make sure we definitely hear and everything,

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Speaker 4: yes sir, yes, sir, make sure we're hearing everything you can.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we've been talking about these top fifty

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Speaker 4: gangster rap albums of all time. We would kind of

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Speaker 4: put that on pause this week because we do have

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Speaker 4: a special guest in the house. First thing I want

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Speaker 4: to ask you, man, is where did you develop your

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Speaker 4: work ethic.

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Speaker 5: I'm born and raised San Francisco, Fillmore District. I come

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Speaker 5: up under rapid fote hewmc as the forefathers in my neighborhood.

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Speaker 5: Learning the independent game. Coming from where I'm from, I

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Speaker 5: got to say two short e forty as the pioneers

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Speaker 5: of I'm pressing up my own product and I'm putting

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Speaker 5: it out myself. So that was my first example of

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Speaker 5: my pursuit in this independent game was that I had

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Speaker 5: to create the product which was recorded, and then I

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Speaker 5: had to get the money to manufacture.

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Speaker 3: Manufacturing.

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Speaker 5: My first product was in June nineteen ninety two, and

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Speaker 5: I always remember the price. I paid six hundred and

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Speaker 5: forty nine dollars for five hundred cassettes that were duplicated

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Speaker 5: at this place called Music Annex in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 5: And I never knew that manufacturing you can pay.

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Speaker 3: But back then I wanted.

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Speaker 5: A record deal because I thought the record label pressed

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Speaker 5: up the tapes. I didn't know there was a plant

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Speaker 5: that they hire.

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Speaker 3: So I got that knowledge at a young age.

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Speaker 5: So that was my first order pressing up my own

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Speaker 5: five hundred tapes. At that time, a cassette tape was

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Speaker 5: ten dollars, so to make the inserts I paid maybe

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Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty more dollars. I used the Polaroid camera.

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Speaker 5: This is all independent, This is my independent beginning. When

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Speaker 5: I seen that I did this myself, it put the

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Speaker 5: confidence in me of what I heard eve forty and

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Speaker 5: two sure doing. But as a teenager I paid for this.

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Speaker 5: It ain't a bunch of tapes, but at one time pressing.

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Speaker 5: Four months later I dropped another tape, and this time

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Speaker 5: it was fourteen songs. These fourteen songs, Now I had

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Speaker 5: my big homie since I put this five hundred out

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Speaker 5: and the hood messing with me. I give you the

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Speaker 5: money to press up five thousand tapes. So the five

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Speaker 5: thousand tapes. Now I got a full color wrapped in

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Speaker 5: plastic cassette tape. I went to in a minute or

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Speaker 5: Music People Distribution and then Walchers Zelnick at.

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Speaker 3: City Hall Distribution.

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Speaker 5: These were the two points that if you get your

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Speaker 3: But before.

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Speaker 5: Just going to the distributor, I knew where record stores

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Speaker 5: was at myself. So for me to go sell one

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Speaker 5: hundred cassette tapes for five hundred dollars, but I paid

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Speaker 5: less than a dollar for the cassette tape, but to

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Speaker 5: make five dollars per unit, So I'm looking at twenty

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Speaker 5: five thousand dollars potentially off of five thousand. My big

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Speaker 5: homie launched me probably seven thousand. I was able to

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Speaker 5: give him back his seven thousand with another five added on,

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Speaker 5: so he got twelve thousand out to twenty five. I

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Speaker 5: don't think I made the whole twenty five because I

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Speaker 5: was given some out. But the concept for a teenager

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Speaker 5: to make twenty five thousand dollars legally, that is what

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Speaker 5: I think stuck with me throughout all my years. That

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Speaker 3: Press my own.

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Speaker 5: And then that same concept went to when I make films,

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Speaker 5: shoot my own.

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Speaker 4: Film, and I got to print up DVDs.

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Speaker 5: Back then it was dhs, then it went to DVDs,

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Speaker 5: so it was like casseette tapes.

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Speaker 4: Then now a CD costs.

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Speaker 5: In the store sixteen dollars, but to manufacture was a

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Speaker 5: dollar twenty five. So just one thousand CDs is twelve hundred.

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Speaker 5: That's how we did our math. Like a drug dealer.

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Speaker 5: Even if I don't have enough to press up a lot,

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Speaker 5: I can remember I don't have a job, So let

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Speaker 5: me make a new project and go just sell a

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Speaker 5: certain amount of copies to get the money, and then

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Speaker 5: a CD getting half the money was the concept. If

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Speaker 5: I take it to the store, I'm getting eight dollars,

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Speaker 5: so one thousand discs I can make eight thousand, and

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Speaker 5: I'm selling my whole thousand pack because I ain't got

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Speaker 5: no room no more to give them out for free.

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Speaker 3: To get my name.

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Speaker 5: Going once, your name once, you got just any kind

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Speaker 5: of fan base, I said, I could feed this to

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Speaker 5: this population to keep some money. This would kept me

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Speaker 5: from drugs, and this would make me have so many

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Speaker 5: different albums and joint albums and compilations because every one

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Speaker 5: of them represented a certain amount of money as soon

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Speaker 5: as I print them up, you know what. So that

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Speaker 5: that uh that that hustling, grinding't do it your self concept.

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Speaker 5: And I got to get credit to the Honorable Minister

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Speaker 5: Lewis far Khin because he had the Brothers of the

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Speaker 5: Nation and Islam coming out. And that's when I start

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Speaker 5: seeing the brothers with the papers on the corner of

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Speaker 5: the pies. But they will always say something about, uh,

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Speaker 5: do for self, black man, start a business, black man,

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Speaker 5: like you know, telling the young people that. But you know,

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Speaker 5: we in the streets, we hustling. You know, I'm part

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Speaker 5: time rapping. I'm still trying to sell some weed, you know,

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Speaker 5: a little potter try to make some coke into.

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Speaker 4: Some rocks or something. But it never worked good for me.

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Speaker 4: The music worked it good.

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Speaker 5: I remember printing up ten thousand discs and I'm finna

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Speaker 5: go pick up eighty thousand dollars. But this type of

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Speaker 5: number in the streets for a kilo dealer, that's that's

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Speaker 5: basic numbers. But to a teenager with discs, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to pick up kelo money. R.

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Speaker 4: Kelo.

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Speaker 5: Guys started to look up to me, and I'm younger

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Speaker 5: than them, but they had kilo money. The benz is

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Speaker 5: the plug for the powder packs and all you know

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Speaker 3: You know how ballers get.

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Speaker 5: But that came a penitentiary time and the minister said, brothers,

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Speaker 5: you are being used as a distributor for drugs. But

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Speaker 5: instead of a kilo of cocaine, how about you cook a.

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Speaker 3: Kilo of yourself. Look at yourself as the kilo.

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Speaker 5: That means you have to create a product that you

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Speaker 5: can sell yourself, whether that's selling dimer And you know

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Speaker 5: how to make your chicken or your fish taste good.

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Speaker 5: Some people have a barbecue grill that been having smoked.

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Speaker 5: It been ten thousand barbecues been in there. When they

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Speaker 5: They know when I buy this plate for the ten

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Speaker 5: or the fifteen or the twenty. The same concept of

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Speaker 5: making the album that I'm making in my mom house.

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Speaker 5: In my bedroom, I didn't put my bed out. I

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Speaker 5: don't have no furniture all. I got a studio equipment

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited that if this next album w't mak it,

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Speaker 5: I got access to make some thousands. So the concept

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Speaker 5: of just doing it yourself, I gotta say, Minister Farkhan

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Speaker 5: and the brothers when I heard them say, instead of

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Speaker 5: cook Aquilo of dope, cook aquilo of yourself, did you

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Speaker 5: know black men, brothers, did you know that you full

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Speaker 5: of talent and all your ideas is the money?

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Speaker 4: The money, not the money. It's your idea that's the money.

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Speaker 2: It's the currency.

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Speaker 4: Like literally that I say, damn okay. He said, do

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Speaker 4: you know when you pray to God for something that

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Speaker 4: he might give it to you in the dream, but

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Speaker 4: you still got to fulfill it. You might have had

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Speaker 4: the dream of yourself seeing yourself.

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Speaker 5: But now you might have to sleep on the floor.

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Speaker 5: You might have to sleep, you know, you might have

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Speaker 5: to h wise dishes. You might have to work at McDonald's.

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Speaker 5: You might can't hang on the block no more. Wire

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Speaker 5: My dreams so important. I can't gamble selling dope right

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Speaker 5: now to go to the pen in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 5: you get caught with a fifty shot a crack in

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Speaker 5: San Francisco, you could do five to ten years. When

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Speaker 5: when Bill Clinton and that Hillary Clinton made that thing

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Speaker 5: and something about from part of the crack or something, man,

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Speaker 5: I said, I'm I'm out I could sell I could

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Speaker 5: sell a thousand dish and make eight thousand. Now that's

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Speaker 5: ninety three, ninety two. I made my mind up when

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Speaker 5: I made them first five hundred cassette tapes. When I

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Speaker 5: sold that, and I probably made about maybe eighteen nineteen hundred,

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Speaker 5: but I literally doubled my money right from my studio time.

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Speaker 5: And then the fifteen hundred or the seventeen hundred that

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Speaker 5: my homeboy gave me. Because I'm like, I'm not selling

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Speaker 5: doughe I'm gonna ask somebody who got the money to

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Speaker 5: help me to pay for my stuff. When I was

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Speaker 5: able to pay them back, then one of my other

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Speaker 5: homeboys came and said, let me give you more money.

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Speaker 3: Because I want to be part of your new album.

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Speaker 5: But I knew I want to be on my own

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Speaker 5: label though, So I learned from Sugar Knight, Herry Go

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Speaker 5: Doctor Dre. I looked at the components. I looked at

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Speaker 5: the movie Crush Groove Russell Simmons. His brother is a rapper.

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Speaker 5: He don't got the money, his family don't believe in him.

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Speaker 5: But he brought five thousand from JB. But he didn't

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Speaker 5: was getting beat.

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Speaker 4: Up onto the movie. So I learned from that movie,

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Speaker 4: if you bought the money, you got to pay the

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Speaker 4: money back. I don't know what he was thinking about.

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Speaker 4: They had already got some money. JB was like, I

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Speaker 4: want to be part of the deal. Now I'm part

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Speaker 4: of the whole thing now, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: So the concept that's the movie that taught me get

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Speaker 5: a money back. Mm hm, that's the movie taught me.

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Speaker 4: Don't play with somebody who even trust you, even if

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Speaker 4: it is a long shark.

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Speaker 3: If you agree to the terms, pay accordingly.

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Speaker 5: Because each person that gave me some money, I had

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Speaker 5: to have a conversation and an understanding, and it wasn't

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Speaker 5: on contract.

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Speaker 4: It's whatever we say right now, that's the deal words.

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Speaker 4: That's how going boy listen. So in my hood, I

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Speaker 4: didn't do no plan, but I was trusted if JT

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Speaker 4: need money for any one of y'all, could get JT

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Speaker 4: some money and he gonna bring back that plus some play.

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure some of them ballers up there

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Speaker 1: and Frisco saw how you was just getting that money

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Speaker 1: without the stress of text when you say, dope, you

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Speaker 1: can't sleep at night.

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Speaker 5: That's the part of the dream that I had wanting

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Speaker 5: to be, Like, damn, I want to be like big Bro. Now, man,

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Speaker 5: they got the packs, they you know, the money coming in,

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Speaker 5: they got the guns.

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Speaker 4: Is yeah, they got everything that looked that be every

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Speaker 4: nigg little nigga's vision in the hood. You see the

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Speaker 3: Whoever was popping with the packs, and I won't end

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Speaker 5: Dudes and the hood never you know, I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 5: And I watched that man didn't sleep till all them

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Speaker 4: How did you buy such and such car? So the

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Speaker 5: That killed my thought process of because I saw a

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Speaker 3: That ain't the move. So I stayed on the music.

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Speaker 5: Be like, Bro, you just hustling that nigga. I say, Bro,

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Speaker 5: I don't sell weed. I don't sell pussy. I don't

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Speaker 4: The other option, the other word, fuck it.

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Speaker 5: Just sell weed. It's legal, yeah, but when you I

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Speaker 5: got in Atlanta bringing packs. The first five they bought,

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's the way. And I'm pretty sure Cally

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Speaker 4: Golden sick golden. It's always the golden ticket though coming

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Speaker 4: from here with the work, going out of state somewhere,

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Speaker 4: you can always double your money. So that that'd be

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Speaker 4: some niggas just be stuck in the neighborhood because that's

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Speaker 4: that be the life to them. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It is the life, that's the life. And shit, you

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Speaker 4: know a lot of us at some point, Uh was like,

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Speaker 4: and niggas got the nigga. Dayton's was fresh out and

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Speaker 4: ambition is to be that nigga. Don't fucking be no

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Speaker 4: nigga making music. Nigga better get with this hustling and

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Speaker 4: its claiming the neighborhood and shit. So yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 4: of difficult to set yourself apart from you know, from

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Speaker 3: You know, go ahead, jayg No, That I was what

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Speaker 5: I think I got very lucky that I always was like,

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Speaker 5: I want to be a CEO. I want to be

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Speaker 5: like shit Night, I want to be like goddamn Eat forty.

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Speaker 5: can happen if you pursue your shit. It happened for them,

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Speaker 5: So it was like evidence you feel me.

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Speaker 6: So then how did the vision expand from the in

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Speaker 5: At that point in time, you know, when cassette tapes

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Speaker 3: Wanted to have one of it.

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Speaker 5: When I seen Eat forty slash JIB three million dollars,

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Speaker 4: With his feet up.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn it.

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Speaker 5: But I end up doing a deal with Priority for

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Speaker 5: half a million, with no marketing, no district or only distribution.

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Speaker 4: And they just gave me a shot.

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Speaker 5: But I was so young, I didn't comprehend the workload

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Speaker 4: You had to do that.

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Speaker 5: To use a Yellow Pages and make a phone call,

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for this record label or I'm looking for

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Speaker 5: this record store. You know, can you tell me some

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Speaker 3: In the area.

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Speaker 4: Man, that that workload is way different than somebody workload

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Speaker 4: now posting something on their page and now it's you.

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Speaker 4: Once I got that distribution, though with Priority, I felt good.

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Speaker 4: Then I felt more pressure than I ever felt because

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Speaker 4: I got the dream deal. Man, Doctor dre chronic album

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Speaker 3: Know nwa hes q all this shit.

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Speaker 5: You feel Me jay Z when I signed, he signed

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Speaker 3: Some guy that got all the.

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Speaker 4: Movies and DVDs up in here and all the albums,

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Speaker 4: But he got his own burning machine right there. Any

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Speaker 4: that would have would have been a no note. I

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Speaker 4: If you would have heard if any of that going

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, it would have been It would have been

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Speaker 5: Doing it, because like nigga, you actually stealing, yeah, nigga.

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Speaker 5: But then Stanning became okay. When they made the machines,

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Speaker 5: tape machines. We had a Panasonic with two a tape

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Speaker 5: remember that exactly. But you still had to wait one

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Speaker 2: You feel it wasn't mass duplication, yeah at all.

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Speaker 5: But once it went to d DVD or CD and

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Speaker 3: Now I got your whole album.

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Speaker 5: They writing the name on it, put it in a

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Speaker 5: little slip so down South made me famous with the movies.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get the money at first, but I got

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Speaker 5: the fame because now my product is feeding them. But

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Speaker 5: they promote me because any new movie, the Bootlegger, that's

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Speaker 5: what they thrived for to get it first.

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Speaker 1: You actually put out something that actually became a really

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Speaker 1: pivotal project for independent filmmakers. You had something to do

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Speaker 5: Yes, snowing a bluff one somebody else did that was

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Speaker 5: the mecca. But for me to redo it and rehook

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Speaker 5: game and made Part two and then Snoop played the

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Speaker 5: part up in there. It caused big controversy, it caused lawsuits,

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Speaker 5: it caused all type of shit.

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Speaker 4: But for the think the problem.

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Speaker 5: Was that the fact of that the man ran off

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Speaker 5: with all the money on Kurt for the first one

440
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 5: because Kurt didn't had nobody like me to talk, so

441
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 5: we approached him about doing part two. Then he started

442
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 5: talking about all his money, but Curt only did a

443
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 5: deal for Part one, so Part two we done, but

444
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: he put it in paperwork for trademarking it and then boom,

445
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 5: it caused copyright infringement. So I had to change the

446
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 5: name from Snowing the Bluff Too to Summertime in the

447
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 5: Bluff because it's like, it's not his movie, but by

448
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 5: calling it part two, it tied to his movie, and

449
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 5: that caused the problem. You feel me do the initial

450
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 5: project what I'm sorry, some dude I don't even know

451
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 5: his name, some dude helped him make that. But when

452
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 5: I made Part two, that was smacking smack dab as

453
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 5: a continuation of what you've seen in the first one.

454
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 5: That's what boosted me as a certified filmmaker. Like JT

455
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 5: shot that and I edited no Help and I shot

456
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: it on the iPhone. M whole movie, and YO was

457
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 5: on your way to make some ms with that and

458
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 5: in traf Flicks. That helped kick my trafflicks platform off.

459
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 5: Once I did Trafflics app, I caught the traff Flicks

460
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 5: because Netflix rob Kirk and he was famous from snowing

461
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 5: the bluff on Netflix.

462
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 3: So I'm like, bro, we independent man fucked them.

463
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: We're gonna start Trafflix and we gonna make an app

464
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 4: like they shit.

465
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: And God really blessed me to make it.

466
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 5: I had made all these movies and had no place

467
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 5: to take them because Netflix only offered fifteen thousand dollars

468
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: per film. I had ten films that I made in

469
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen. When I made these films, I'm on fire

470
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 5: in the streets either I'm doing a deal with somebody.

471
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: When I got they offer fifteen thousand for five years

472
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 5: per film. That's one hundred and fifty thousand, and don't

473
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: come back and ask for no more money for five

474
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 5: no red and I can't go nowhere else.

475
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I don't think I know what

476
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna tell you. Will you should be happy to

477
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 4: have your film on Netflix. That's exactly what was the concept.

478
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 5: But I'm like, I want to actually, I'm from the

479
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 5: independent game, like we supposed to make some money still,

480
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: and to just give me one fifty, even though I

481
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 5: know I probably didn't even pay five thousand per movie.

482
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 5: I probably didn't even pay two thousand dollars per movie.

483
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: But I knew if I signed this a scept the money,

484
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: it's gonna be like a rapper signing a three sixty

485
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 5: deal or a rapper signing an artist deal.

486
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 4: You happy to get the deal, you got your big

487
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: check in front, but you know that might be the

488
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 4: last one for a long time, and a lot of

489
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 4: rappers have went through that. So me hearing them the

490
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: horror stories, I just felt, I know these movies could

491
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 4: be more valuable for me.

492
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: I rejected the deal.

493
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: I started track.

494
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 5: Fleix, I invested into a team to build me an app.

495
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: I put my movies on my app, and from there,

496
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 5: my reputation went up.

497
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: As this motherfucker right here, I tell you how influential

498
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: it was. This ain't a mental, no controversy or nothing,

499
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: but a lot of people have taken your intellectual liberties

500
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: with your intellectual property have taken certain liberties because I

501
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: remember when Dame Dash first came out with this app,

502
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: right we built it. I'm hearing it like he got

503
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: the technology from you, and he he just kind of.

504
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 5: Ran off and didn't give me a dollar. I got

505
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 5: to put him on blast and tell the truth. But

506
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't use that as a campaign of crying about

507
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 5: what a nigga did to me. I made it known

508
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 5: to the public and then I stopped me and Snoop

509
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 5: had some words, but I respect Snoop and that he

510
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 5: helped me more than hurt me.

511
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was his team, but.

512
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 5: Once the people who did the first and on the

513
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 5: bluff saw Trap Flecks was under Calvin Brotis and it

514
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: didn't had my name, he went straight at the Snoop.

515
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 5: He never even came back, even said a word to me.

516
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 5: I don't know if Snoop authorized that or did his

517
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: label or his management jumped the gun and registered the

518
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 5: company without my name. It looked like it was about

519
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 5: to be a money grab without me, right, but the

520
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 5: loss who came and flouded and me and Snoop never

521
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 5: really got to communicate as brothers again because he disappointed

522
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: at the lawsuit. I'm disappointed that my name ain't on it.

523
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: We both having something to feel some kind of way about.

524
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 5: But I always wanted the people to know. I thanked

525
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 5: Snoop for taking me around the world multiple times, showing

526
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 5: me how a megastar lived, showing me how a multi

527
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 5: millionaire had.

528
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: To move the dudes and the don'ts so I don't have.

529
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 5: Nothing, and I shot brother out, brother Snoop, my big

530
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: bro out, and thank you for all the help and

531
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 5: teaching me the things that I do know right now

532
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 5: and how to conduct myself.

533
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: And to be real.

534
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: When you're dealing with a mega entity that is a

535
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg bringing, it could have been very much somebody

536
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: on his team that just jumped the gun and went

537
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: and did some stuff without.

538
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: Us, without us having our agreement in place. And that's

539
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 5: what I was heard about. And I think when Dame

540
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: Dash saw me and Snoop had that issue right there,

541
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, I don't got to respect.

542
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just run off with this software. And he

543
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: did his thing, and then I.

544
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 5: Was vocal about it for a few days, and then

545
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 5: at a certain point, I say, man, it's gonna look

546
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 5: like I'm mad at snooping Dame, these two niggas I

547
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: look up to. I don't like how it turned out,

548
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 5: but I'm not that mad. And if I'm really truly

549
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 5: JT the bigger figure, do it again. And then and

550
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 5: then some time went by, and that's how I ended

551
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: up going to Africa for a number of reasons. Number one,

552
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 5: they invited me to come and ask for me to

553
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 5: bring my JT skills to Africa to help their young

554
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: population with the independent game. That was impressed with the movies.

555
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: They impressed with me making books, albums, being part of

556
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 5: so many influential people's careers, playing parts from the background.

557
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 4: But the other part. Somebody told me, JT. You know

558
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 4: you got trap flicks? Do you know in Africa?

559
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 5: They got software guys that live in the village and

560
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 5: he might look poor as ever, but he can make

561
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 5: anything with the computer.

562
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: You gotta find them that technology over there for them

563
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: young brothers.

564
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: Now nah, they definitely, they definitely they listen.

565
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 5: Whatever knowledge is that, whoever get to it first is

566
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 5: who's gonna benefit because a lot of times knowledge don't

567
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 5: have the money right skin.

568
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: That's like a dope ass rapper.

569
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 5: Some dude right now, rap better than jay Z and

570
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 5: Little Baby put Together and Drake. But we don't know

571
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 5: him yet. He raw as ever right somebody know him.

572
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 5: He ain't connected to the right person yet. That's what

573
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 5: I found in Africa, the dudes who made my software.

574
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 5: You would think these just some poor guys.

575
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: So how did they come to invite you? Like, how

576
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: did that happen?

577
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: Man?

578
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Somebody I don't know.

579
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to Africa because I know

580
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: nobody in Africa. But one of the big people called

581
00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: for a delegation from Black America Entertainment, film, entertainment, entrepreneurship,

582
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: a basketball coach to see they basketball dudes to see

583
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: if they can get some type of thing or baseball basketball.

584
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: They had a doctor dude that was part of the

585
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: delegation to try to bring how to help them with

586
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 4: the malaria or different you know, illnesses, sicknesses.

587
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: So I was just part of a delegation that represent

588
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: music and entrepreneurship.

589
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: So they did their background on me. They like, we

590
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: want him.

591
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: So I'm like, shit, I'm on first class round trip,

592
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: I'm on Hotel fool everything you feel me. I wasn't

593
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 5: charging them, but they like we'll pay for all of

594
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: that for you. We want you their bag. So when

595
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: I go, I'm thinking I'm finna go over here and

596
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 5: I'm finna hit them for some money. I end up

597
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: going to a place that's really poor. I'm not finna

598
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: get the bag. I'm thinking, you know, Africa, I'm knowing.

599
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: I heard about his rich and his poor, but I

600
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: landed in the real poor. But I felt a certain

601
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 5: kind of way, like maybe these people need me. So

602
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: I asked them, how can I help? You know, I

603
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: got a few dollars. I wanted, you know, what can

604
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: I do to help? And he called a meeting with

605
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 5: the chiefs and they came back from the meeting say well,

606
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 5: we don't want your money, but if you want to

607
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 5: help us, we need water.

608
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: Look at this place. If you could help us with

609
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 4: a water well, all of our villages, all the tribes

610
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 4: could benefit off this water well.

611
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: I say, how much is it? Six thousand?

612
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 5: I said, Man, I can pay for that right now, Man,

613
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: I pay for that water well.

614
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: Man.

615
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: Do you know within twenty four forty eight hours, a

616
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: truck pull up. I see this big stick come out

617
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 5: I'm talking about. They put a thing on it instantly

618
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 5: straight to the ground. I'm trying to figure out how

619
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: like where the water coming from.

620
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: You know a waterwell.

621
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 5: I thought they dig a hole and bring the water

622
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: to fill it. They're like, no, the water's under the ground.

623
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: The water a thousand feet, we're really nine hundred feet.

624
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 5: We could go three hundred feet JT for three thousand dollars,

625
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 5: but the quality of the water might not be right.

626
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 5: But if we spend the six thousand, we can go

627
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 5: down nine thousand I mean nine hundred feet, and that's

628
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 5: where we could get the purest water.

629
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 4: Probably the best water you ever had.

630
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: And listen, I say gonna go, go, go down. I

631
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: want to get the good water. Man, when that water

632
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: taste that water, I mean it took it took him,

633
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: It took him some hours. But I'm just tripping on

634
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 5: how they putting this metal stick down. I'm like, damn,

635
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 5: so the water fing it come out from right here

636
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: in this dry ass looking like desert type. Man, if

637
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: we just had enough money to pay for all this drilling,

638
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 5: we could have the water.

639
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, why y'all just don't do it for your people.

640
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: Y'all got a truck right here, because the truck man

641
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: want money, and we can't pay for it. Imagine a

642
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: whole village full of people. They can't afford six thousand

643
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 5: dollars to pay for a water with cause they still

644
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: got to buy food, and they got to pay for

645
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 5: the internet, and they still got to pay their rent.

646
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 5: And it's so collectively chipping in money. I would think

647
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: six thousand dollars shit. I see three four thousand people

648
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: right there.

649
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: This is poor.

650
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 4: This the real poor. JT.

651
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 5: So this water you about to donate for us? I say,

652
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: I want to put my mama name on it.

653
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: I want to call this mama Pearls water well, so

654
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: I can call my mama, tell him I'm doing something good.

655
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 3: I want her name to go on this. Mama.

656
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: Look all these people finna get clean water. Now. Look

657
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 4: right over here at this dirty water with goats and

658
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: cows and people taking baths and different shit.

659
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: They gotta get this water to cook with tonight.

660
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: I said, uh uh, So I switched my heart from

661
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 5: what can I get from them? To man six thousand, Bro,

662
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 5: you could blow that money in Atlanta on the weekend

663
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 5: going to get some outfits, you know, some bottles, some

664
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: sections like you could blow five thousand in California.

665
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure on it. With nothing to show for it,

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: but to pay for that.

667
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 4: I think that was what every day. You know what

668
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

669
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: Every day that money disappeared into the.

670
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: Night, fucking thirty thousand in the strip club to some

671
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: naked assholes and shit like it's nothing and shit but.

672
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Won't give a dollar if you tell if you called

673
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: over there and asked them, same cats, hey, bro, donate

674
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars each, they'll look at you like you

675
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: was crazy.

676
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, they'll look at you.

677
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: You know the the I think in my whole life

678
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: that was the best thing up to that point that

679
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 5: I ever did in my life, because I'm like, damn,

680
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 5: this little bit of money and they talking about this

681
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 5: water well should last years, not like the water do

682
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: went out? It's a lake up under there once they

683
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: put that suction thing and whatever lake is under there, man,

684
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: they putting that water up.

685
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: When did you you know I want to go back

686
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: to something I want to go back to because we

687
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: talked about Atlanta right the ground eas side. Everywhere you

688
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: went seemed like you purchased property, Yes, sir, what neighborhood

689
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: was there?

690
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 3: Or was that?

691
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: Alabama? Where you bought a whole city block that was Alabama.

692
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 4: And it wasn't a whole city block.

693
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 5: It was like a half and it wasn't a big block,

694
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: but it was big enough for me, you know what

695
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: I mean.

696
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: It had a building on it.

697
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: And but before that, I bought land in west side Atlanta,

698
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: Dixie Hills, Bankhead with Ti and then from and they

699
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: were selling houses for twelve thousand and eight thousand, ugly

700
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 5: beat up houses.

701
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: This twenty ten. I was there for two years.

702
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: I bought my first house was twenty five thousand for

703
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 5: my homeboy he bought ten houses. I'm like, damn, you

704
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 5: only uh twenty eight years old and I'm out here

705
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 5: struggling in the Bay paying this rent and you down

706
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: here owning ten houses. He like, bro, you should leave it,

707
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: you know, come to Atlanta, boy, because it's like you

708
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: can own a house and the music popping.

709
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: And zaytovein that's my little brother. I taught Jay tooven,

710
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 4: how to make beats. He knew how to play video.

711
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: Yes when and then I just said forget it, man.

712
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: I moved in the house. I paid the rent. I

713
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 4: remember it was one thousand dollars.

714
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: I moved out there with two thousand to my name,

715
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: I just knew I was going to the right place.

716
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 5: I didn't know exactly how I was gonna make it,

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: but I had a magazine that me and Snoops started

718
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: called Mandatory Business. I said, I gotta get my first customers.

719
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 5: I got some samples to show the magazine because at

720
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 5: that time, magazine still was popping. But I had to

721
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: get people to believe in my magazine and pay me

722
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 5: so I could press the magazine up. I remember it

723
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 5: took me about four months to get my first customer.

724
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 5: Once I made that firste hundred dollars, I said, boy,

725
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna forget you. You the beginning stages of

726
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: me being independent in Atlanta. My first hundred dollar transaction

727
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: off of something I'm selling and it ain't dope. I'm

728
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: finna put this nigga at give him his own page

729
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 5: in my magazine. It costs five thousand dollars for five

730
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 5: thousand full color magazines.

731
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: UV coding, eighty pound paper, sixty pages. You know, I

732
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: know my math.

733
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 5: I'm selling pages for a hundred two hundred. I'm selling

734
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 5: the front cover for two three thousand. I sell it

735
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 5: for a thousand because I can give you your copies

736
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 5: with you on the front and give another guy his

737
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: with his covers on the front.

738
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: So my printer was working with.

739
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: Me, and that's how I was able to have the

740
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: extra money to feed my family. And then my catalog

741
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: was going through digital distribution, paying me a check every

742
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: thirty days. So I balanced them two things together, and

743
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: that's how I was able to maintain and build up

744
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: some money. But I'm like, I can't keep paying those

745
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 5: thousand dollars a rent. I'm gonna buy this house for

746
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 5: twenty five thousand. I built up enough. I gave him half.

747
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: I was giving them two thousand here, fifteen hundred, you know,

748
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: till it was paid off. The land across the street

749
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: they wanted nine thousand, about a little less than an

750
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 5: acre directly across the street. I'm like, if I buy this, boy,

751
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 5: I'm finna be on the man agreed to sell it

752
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 5: to me. Now I got a house and I got

753
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: this land right in the middle of the hood of

754
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 5: fucking all this gang shit dope dinner and I'm talking

755
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 5: about this is but I'm like, shit, I feel right

756
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: at home because this is my house, and this the

757
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: shit they say you supposed to shoot somebody fork. Now

758
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 5: if nobody bothered me here, I'm good. But I remember

759
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 5: the first niggas that came, and I remember they were

760
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 5: breaking in the train and my wife called me because

761
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: I put cameras up and say, babe, it's two niggas

762
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 5: outside in front of the house. They looking at the train.

763
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: I say, I'm on my wife. I come back over there.

764
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, bro, I bought this house and this

765
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 5: property right here, woo woo, and like, yeah, man, were

766
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: on the train. I say, now, that's cool, you know,

767
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 5: but my wife calling me bro, y'all on the side

768
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 5: of my house right here. You feel me like, man,

769
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 5: we've been robbing trains from here for years. But I say, bro,

770
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 5: I got kids and shit up and he like man,

771
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 5: I say, all right, stay right here. When the house

772
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 5: got my strap came out, the niggas say, come on,

773
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 5: bro to start walking. They start walking down the street.

774
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 5: I just start shooting in the air.

775
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: Don't never come back up here no more, nigga, because

776
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: the boy to have my wife call me and I

777
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: got babies in this house, man, and I'm in a

778
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 4: new hood.

779
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: This is my first altercation. I'll say nigga at my house.

780
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm shooting, so I just want a nigga.

781
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: No.

782
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 5: Now, I know they could have came back, did whatever.

783
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, Nigga, this is my land, though, Nigga, this mine.

784
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 5: I'm going all gas, no breaks. A couple of the

785
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: og saw what happened. They told them, niggas man fall

786
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: back from that nigga up there broke because he up there,

787
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 5: he gonna shoot, but he ain't been bothering nobody around here,

788
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: you feel me? So I started meeting more niggas. Then

789
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: we all kind of got cool. But I just that

790
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 5: was my introduction niggas.

791
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I noticed some in Wonder films. You had all of them, dudes,

792
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to, you could have probably signed

793
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: what's the boy's name? This got hot, this fish creased down.

794
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: Young dug, migosgos, all the huge shits your movies. Haven't

795
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 5: meeting them, dudes, They always just in the area. I'm

796
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: just a people person, so I'm a network the young

797
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 5: niggas like Figg.

798
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 4: You should work with him.

799
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, Damn, this nigga looks strange as hell, this

800
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: young thug character. Bro.

801
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 5: Fuck with him. Bro, the people love him bro, like

802
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 5: he's somebody I'm telling you fuck with him, so I

803
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: start fucking him. I looked past the weird shit, and

804
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 5: you know, it was cool. Our music and the shit

805
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 5: we did it was impactful. The Migos. When Gucci Me

806
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 5: and Gucci Man did an album, he signed some dudes

807
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 5: called the Migos, but they was getting so much trouble

808
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 5: off setting them going to jail, different shit. Then Gucci

809
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 5: Men ended up going to jail, so he sold them

810
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 5: to QC P.

811
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: They had another label at.

812
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: That time, but when they signed Me Migos, they say,

813
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: these guys is good enough to put the real bag behind.

814
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: They started a new label called QC and then that

815
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 5: shit took flight. So just being part of this, you know,

816
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: I remember paying Future thirty five hundred to come do

817
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 5: my birthday party. That was in twenty thirteen. I was

818
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 5: turning forty years old. I had been in Atlanta for

819
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: three years. My name was going up. I got some

820
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 5: money coming in. It's like I'm getting planning into the

821
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: the environment. I did so much work. Niggas started thinking

822
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 5: I was from Atlanta. How I had motion going down there.

823
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 5: How I'm moving and moving through them blocks. I'm doing

824
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 5: all them, but they're like, man, what is this nigga.

825
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 5: It's just I wasn't scared. It wasn't that I'm tough

826
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 5: for a gangster or nothing. It was just that I'm

827
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: so hood on and I'm so comfortable with God and myself.

828
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: I'm not here to cause a problem. But I know

829
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: jealousy or a nigga pressing me by being in their hood,

830
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 5: it can happen at any moment. So I already signed

831
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 5: up for it, and nigga pressed me, I'm pressing back.

832
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 5: If the nigga get on me, I'm getting on the

833
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 5: nigga back and from them time my first altercations and

834
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: niggas seeing how I responded, it's like it wasn't like

835
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: they could have piled up on me, like nigga, you

836
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: gotta get up out of here. Nigga can't fight back, Nah, nigga,

837
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 5: that's between me and this nigga.

838
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: So most times the hood never added theyself.

839
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: You know, nigga's gonna disagree, or somebody try to run

840
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: off with some or a nigga stole some. You know,

841
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: like different little shit where you're getting your manhood tested.

842
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: It ain't worth crashing out. But sometimes shit happened. That

843
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: can make it easy to make you.

844
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: Be like, man, I'm finna crash out on these niggas,

845
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 5: But that wasn't I didn't go down there for that.

846
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: I went down there for success.

847
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: Because you had altercation down there, because you got shot down. Yeah,

848
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 4: I got shot two different times. Both of them attempted

849
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 4: robberies that I wasn't just agreeing to because I know,

850
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: once you get robbed, nigga, that's it, hang up, hang

851
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: up the street. Shit you is knew you a lunch meal.

852
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: Now every nigga who was somebody who had little studies

853
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: and once they got robbed, they start becoming the target.

854
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: With multiple robberies now, multiple attempts, niggas testing them both minds.

855
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 4: I wasn't going and then I wasn't tough. I just

856
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 4: already signed up for it. Like bro, don't just cause

857
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 4: a nigga got a gun, don't mean because a nigga

858
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: point you supposed to just hair up and gil shit up.

859
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 5: Sometimes it ain't no bulletsing the motherfucker. It's a fifty

860
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 5: to fifty chance. But when somebody that you showed love

861
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 5: to try to rob you.

862
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: You might resist a little bit more like bru, what

863
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: is you doing?

864
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: Bro?

865
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 5: I'm robbing you today, robbing me today. You know, imagine

866
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 5: the nigga you've been fucking with two three years and

867
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 5: one day he say, Bro, I'm robbing you today. I'm like,

868
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: hold on, You're like what the nigga, Bro? They kept

869
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: asking me for the money? Now, real robber, shoot you

870
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 5: in the legs, say, bitch ass niggas, ain't no game, nigga,

871
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: Come on with it. Okay, you know what it is.

872
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: But when the nigga like, Bro, you gotta give us

873
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 5: something for ten damn. There fifteen minutes of asking this

874
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: ain't a robbery, nigga, You're already trying to rob me

875
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: for my manhood.

876
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: So Jack could be able to say we ribe feed,

877
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: but what ended up happening.

878
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: I just kept praying our lot of one Master frod Muhammad,

879
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: the one minister Farcid told us, brother pray to how

880
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: we pray, how you Elijah Mohammed prayer? How you think

881
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 4: we protected?

882
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: I lie?

883
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 5: Real, you got the call on him, but you can't

884
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: depend on him when you think you just in trouble.

885
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: You gotta talk to him beforehand, and you gotta do

886
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: some good.

887
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 4: So I was feeding people. I'm trying to go do

888
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 4: the good work all that.

889
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 5: Imagine me feeding people, and right after our feed then

890
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 5: niggas come talking about the robbery shit. But I've been

891
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 5: in here for three four years, so I could have

892
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 5: gave it up. All they had to do was hit

893
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: me in the head a couple of times with the pistol.

894
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 3: Then I would have gave it up. It wasn't that.

895
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 4: It was the demand with the pistol and the words

896
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: and the threat of it. I had a baby the

897
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 4: day before. There was no way possible.

898
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: I'm going back to the hospital or bringing my wife

899
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 5: home or my brand new daughter and all my kids.

900
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: I got ride for our money.

901
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: And what's so cool? He threw all that in the movie.

902
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: I had to That's how I knew about it was

903
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: like the real life thing.

904
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: You saw something my real guts, the real surgery, the

905
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: real morphine, and oh we gotta do emergency surgery. They

906
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 4: got their cameras out. I'm like, what fuck? That gave

907
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 4: me my camera? Because I ain't dead right now.

908
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: I don't know what's gonna happen, but I know y'all

909
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 5: got y'all hands in my guts and nobody gonna believe

910
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 5: that my stomach split open like this, and they and

911
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: there talking about we.

912
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: Gotta stop the bleeding.

913
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: So I'm like, shit, let me put this on my

914
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: That was just another thing of my type of mentality.

915
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 4: Of turn it into something. You gotta turn your pain

916
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: and your ill into something. If you do that, that's

917
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 4: the most powerful thing. Is a man who his wife

918
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: left from or something, and now he got to use

919
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: that pain to go further. Or the Homies betrayed you,

920
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: like nah, not the bros, Like yeah, the bros played

921
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: me bro Okay, you can't call on them no more.

922
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 5: You actually got to do it on your own. That'll

923
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 5: drive a nigga to become successful exactly.

924
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: Then DJ Quick say.

925
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: Some of his song about he had the Homies and

926
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: something in the studio or something, and he came back

927
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 5: to the studio was gone. He's like, oh shit, I'm

928
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 5: gonna make me a way. Next thing, you know, we

929
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: got a whole new hit record.

930
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: And it's always those closest to you because you've seen

931
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: to always be in the right place at the right time.

932
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: Because I heard one of my partners was telling me,

933
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember where I heard it

934
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: from actually, But when Pe was in the Bay and

935
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: he first started doing this thing, wasn't nobody really messing

936
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: with him? They said, you was the first one to

937
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: step up and say, you know what, I'm aa fuck

938
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: with this dude.

939
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: He'm gonna give him a chance because he was garbage

940
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna keep it real. He became a better

941
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 5: artist that we appreciated. But in the beginning, like bro,

942
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 5: that ain't it them songs?

943
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: Ain't it? Then? Beats? Ain't it in the way you're rapping.

944
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 5: He's from New Orleans, so he had We wasn't used

945
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 5: to a rapper with a different voice.

946
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: First of all, that's number one, you got a whole.

947
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 6: South was We wasn't used to that not coming out

948
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 6: of our section.

949
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: We was used to it coming from So we looked

950
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: at him as one of us. We didn't know you

951
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: born and raised down there.

952
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 4: You the gangster, You a real gang You a real

953
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 4: gang member.

954
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: From Nigger to Calio projects.

955
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 5: When I worked it with him and put the stamp

956
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 5: and showed him how to go get his graphics done,

957
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 5: how to go get his uh uh, how to put

958
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 5: the album covers on the inside. If you got something new,

959
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 5: put it on the inside. I taught him all of that.

960
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: They used the hell out of that for many years

961
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: and listen.

962
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: And that was the beautiful He was the king of

963
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: that album coming out and that concept.

964
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 5: I'm the first person to put out ten albums in

965
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 5: one year, you feel me. So that being in the

966
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: right place at the right time. I think what it

967
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: is is given a person that looked like Underdog a

968
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 5: chance at the right time, like the rapper of the game.

969
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 5: It was four hundred rappers. Minister Farcan said, I want

970
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 5: all the rappers to come see me with me and

971
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 5: Russell Simmons. We want to talk to you all about

972
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 5: the independent game, how not to get tricked in the industry,

973
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 5: some more knowledge about the hit in hand and the

974
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 5: plots and plans, you know, so that we could look

975
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 5: out and watch out. When I walked in that room,

976
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 5: it was four hundred rappers in this room. He the

977
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 5: only rapper that I got the phone number from and said,

978
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 5: this the next motherfucker for the West Coast. I'm the

979
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 5: first person to say it, but for it to actually happen,

980
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 5: that was and I was hurt. I wasn't part of it,

981
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 5: but I was happy to know that my skills set work.

982
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 4: I told the world. I put him with Nad's Escabar

983
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 4: on QB. The Compton, Me and Dad Dilling just just

984
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: did long beast to fill mo so off that buzz

985
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 4: finding a new artists, how do I launch them?

986
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 5: My man's had eight unreleased NADS songs. I say, man,

987
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 5: let me get them songs. I'm gonna blend it with

988
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 5: my new artist the game and called it QB. The

989
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 5: Compton Nas in the game to the people would look

990
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 5: like they together. But Nas was having beef with jay

991
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: Z with Ether and uh whatever them two songs and

992
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 5: niggas were going back and forth. Right in the middle

993
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 5: of that beef is when I dropped the game Shit

994
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 5: and it made them hot, fishing grief.

995
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 3: Nas was on the cover of Double XL. On that

996
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: cover is the game.

997
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 5: The Black Wall Street Shit that I had and the

998
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 5: albums that I got coming out the.

999
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: Next issue fifty cent Doctor Dre eminem on Double XL cover.

1000
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 5: If I would have waited one mo month to put

1001
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: me an Ad out because I went with the Knaves

1002
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: because it was hot, I didn't know Doctor Dre. And

1003
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 5: then was Finna grab fifty cent and it was Finna

1004
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 5: be a cover that was their biggest cover ever. But

1005
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: long story short, finding Game and marketing him in the

1006
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 5: double XL on a national scale, he was able to

1007
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 5: take the songs that I paid for and go shop

1008
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 5: around and then do new songs up the mixtape circuit.

1009
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: He went got his own deal. I can't claim that

1010
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: he went.

1011
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: He went four way with you.

1012
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 3: Small world.

1013
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 4: It is small world.

1014
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 5: That that whole concept, that whole concept. How that really happened.

1015
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 5: People got to say j T the first he predicted it.

1016
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't say it was for sure. I just said

1017
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 5: he is the prototype. He he he tall, he rapping

1018
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: like fabulous. He sounded like shine. But he talking la

1019
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: gang Bang raps. To me, I thought, I'm like, this

1020
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 5: is him sure?

1021
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: And then he became that.

1022
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 5: So when I work with young Thug, this is years later,

1023
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 5: this is this is me and Game was two thousand

1024
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: and two and Me and Thug was twenty twelve, So

1025
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 5: like ten years later, I take a chance. He ended

1026
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 5: up becoming something great. Me and Future. I bring Future

1027
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 5: out here. You know, we bring the migos to the bay.

1028
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 5: They like, who the hell is these guys?

1029
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: Man?

1030
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 5: Two months letter man, bro, what man give me another,

1031
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: give me Kuavo number, give me I say, bro, I

1032
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 5: brought Future. Y'all didn't care nothing about the future, the

1033
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 5: migo or young Thug. But as soon as they hit

1034
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: the radio station out here, that's when everybody like.

1035
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 4: Man, that's who the dudes dig brung out here. J

1036
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 4: T brought them dudes.

1037
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Man.

1038
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: All they in the movie was, ah, that's the same dudes.

1039
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, m yeah, you didn't one thing about it though.

1040
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: You ever recorded a lot of songs with the game?

1041
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: You owned the Masters?

1042
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: Correct?

1043
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so he was able to get some retribution. Then

1044
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 5: I had to go. I had to go do it.

1045
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 5: I know, whack one hundred. He wasn't happy, you know,

1046
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: all these years letters saying that I was stupid. But

1047
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: I was, like, I told Game, give me two hundred

1048
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand. When I went to Afterman, first of all,

1049
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 5: told them bring them to the Masters in a copy

1050
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 5: of my contract.

1051
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: They seen it. They say this authentic. But we don't

1052
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: want to buy this album.

1053
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 5: Were working on a new album, and if we buy

1054
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 5: this album from me, it's gonna come out of Game's budget.

1055
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: And he don't want to authorize that. But if he

1056
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 5: wanted to get me out the way. That was what

1057
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 5: the smart thing to do. He didn't want to see

1058
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 5: me get no money at all, like, oh that shit

1059
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 5: is old man, that shit ain't nothing. Then I went

1060
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 5: straight to Cotch sold it to them. HM Game called

1061
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: me before I sold it and said I give you

1062
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: seventy five thousand and just go away. I said, I

1063
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 5: don't want seventy five. I want two fifty. That's a

1064
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 5: fair number, nigga, they just gave you all this money.

1065
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 5: You with the biggest people.

1066
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: In the world. Two fifty ain't nothing.

1067
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 5: So when Whack one hundred did an interview not too

1068
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 5: long ago, he was saying JT was stupid for that,

1069
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 5: I said, well, first of all, I invested twelve thousand

1070
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 5: dollars to do all them songs, studio time, hotel bitches

1071
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: for them, couple outfits, some weed, twelve man's forty songs.

1072
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 5: All I wanted was two hundred and fifty thousand. I

1073
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 5: ended up making over the life of that album over

1074
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: five million dollars because I sold it to Cotch before

1075
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 5: digital kicked in, And then when digital kicked in, I

1076
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 5: took the album back from Cotch and I put it

1077
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: back out and then I get to check every money.

1078
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 5: They thought I was stupid. I wasn't that stupid nigga.

1079
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 5: I only signed for albums and records and cassette tapes.

1080
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 5: I didn't sign for iTunes and Spotify. And most people

1081
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 5: now they try to send season and decision. But I'm like,

1082
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 5: I ain't listening to that shit. I got the shit

1083
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: loaded up. This is my shit game. Can't say nothing

1084
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 5: to white men, not no, no prejudic shit.

1085
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 4: But they was talking to white men power shit JT

1086
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: JT thing. I say, hold on, man, I just signed it.

1087
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: It don't say iTunes on my contract. It don't say

1088
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: nothing about streaming. It only say records, cassette tapes, vinyl

1089
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: for distribution worldwide.

1090
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: And they could have kept doing that if they wanted to.

1091
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: But you go take the digital rights and do what

1092
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: you want to do.

1093
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 5: Because digital I don't even care about a cassette tape

1094
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 5: or a CD no more. Once it went to that,

1095
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: I was smart, I'm like, shit, well I'm going digital.

1096
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 5: I'm not arguing with them. But how many tapes did

1097
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 5: we sell? How many we shipped? They line you know

1098
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: how to recollect?

1099
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 4: Oh we shipped this and we paid for that, and

1100
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: we all man yeah, and then we got a whole eighty. Man.

1101
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 4: If you don't get up out of here with this game,

1102
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: shout out to digital. Whatever money be made they take,

1103
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: they cuts into your rest. I like that now if

1104
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 4: they scam it, it's working because I like a check

1105
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: every month.

1106
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: They don't even got to be a big one. It

1107
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 5: just got to be a check. And it ain't even

1108
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 5: a check, it's a direct deposit. So on the first

1109
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: of the month, everybody with Digital Council, we all feel

1110
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 5: happy because whatever's in it, something is on your in

1111
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: your bank account.

1112
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: So I do a lot of niggas hate digital.

1113
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 5: They hate digital for the lack of the quick turnaround

1114
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 5: time based upon putting your shit out digitally. There isn't

1115
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: a revenue that comes in for months. A lot of times,

1116
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: even if you just pay for promotion. Imagine you spend

1117
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 5: thirty thousand dollars on promo of your new album, and

1118
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 5: you spend ten thousand recording and making it, and so

1119
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 5: you had about forty maybe ten more, so you had

1120
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 5: like a fifty.

1121
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 3: That album might not do nothing.

1122
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: You might be making thousand dollars on the first month

1123
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: if that, because it's still take time to catch unless

1124
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 5: you're a person with a buzz already, so niggas without

1125
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 5: that buzz, you not finna be getting no ten bands

1126
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 5: every month or no fifteen bands yet, it's not gonna happen.

1127
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 5: If you put your album out and you're thinking you're

1128
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: about to make all the money from one album, then

1129
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: you're mistaken if you're not working your YouTube channel in

1130
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 5: conjunction with your digital distribution deal, which also feeds your

1131
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 5: digital distribution deal. But if you if you turn on

1132
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 5: your YouTube account properly, then your digital distribution check money

1133
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: from this particular stream goes to that and then another

1134
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 5: YouTube check comes to you personally as the YouTube owner.

1135
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 5: But if you signed your whole YouTube over also, then

1136
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 5: you don't get that. That's another downside to artists. When

1137
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 5: you have a hot song, it ain't just paying no

1138
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 5: DJ to play your song or pay for a playlist.

1139
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 5: These are the other elements that I watch companies do

1140
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: like Empire Orchard. If a song that you're trying to push,

1141
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 5: they will load it on a YouTube channel four or five, six,

1142
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 5: seven different ways. The extended version, the audio version where

1143
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 5: the words is coming on, the actual video version, the

1144
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 5: song planned with just some random stuff happening in the

1145
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: back ground. But why do they do that because this

1146
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 5: random stuff has a title, but it's playing your song.

1147
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: But you still get credit for every spin.

1148
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: So that's what you call creative marketing within your streaming

1149
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 4: to make the money come in.

1150
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. And I have failed to

1151
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 3: do this all the way.

1152
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 4: But when I go in the back office and see

1153
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 4: they got somebody sitting there and they taking this whole

1154
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: album and they finish chopped, they finna make this album.

1155
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: It's ten songs. They got forty five videos.

1156
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: Did you just hear me? It's the same album. It's

1157
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 4: forty five with creative type.

1158
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 2: Lyric video like lyric video, ric video, the.

1159
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: Real video, the dirty ricks with the clouds cloud that's

1160
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: the lyric video. Yes, the emotional other videos to the

1161
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 4: motherfucking song. It won't even beat the video. It'll just

1162
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: be some clips of you man, and it'd be like

1163
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 4: that is the other part that most rappers is not doing,

1164
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 4: and or the label who has the rapper.

1165
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: And you can't forget about the fan videos because fans

1166
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: now sit up there and make videos.

1167
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: Get credit for your money.

1168
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Come to YouTube if you register properly, did you.

1169
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: Hear that the registration of the song very important because

1170
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 4: your YouTube money and your streaming money.

1171
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: On my YouTube account.

1172
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 5: I had not set it up right, so if I

1173
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 5: played one song, it could be my song. All the

1174
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: money from this video go to that one song, even

1175
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: if it only come on for ten seconds, if that

1176
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 5: song played within your YouTube or anybody's song. So I

1177
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 5: was like, how come I'm not getting my YouTube credit

1178
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 5: but it's going to the distributor because I want my

1179
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 5: YouTube money kind of like to come to me. But

1180
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 5: my man's was like, you got to set it up right.

1181
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: I want my YouTube money to come to me, and

1182
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 5: I want to distribute money because.

1183
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: That check come to me too. But I want my

1184
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: shit to be separate because you're supposed to get paid off.

1185
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: You know what's funny. You know what's funny about you

1186
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: saying that. I told them I managed Rapping and Glasses Malone,

1187
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, bro, you ain't never

1188
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: got to check from your YouTube channel. He got videos

1189
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: on there getting million, Tupac Munchs died two million views.

1190
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 4: Right million.

1191
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: You didn't even get that check, And I said, dog,

1192
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: I asked the distributor, I said, why are you claiming

1193
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: videos off of this. You didn't upload this, you didn't

1194
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: do it. Well, you know we part of distribution. He

1195
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: uploaded that himself.

1196
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: You didn't do no work for they got access to

1197
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: the channel.

1198
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: So we got that fixed. We got everything snacked from

1199
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: them and got them snatched off of there. Now he

1200
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: getting his checks now. I said, bro, that's all your money.

1201
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I told ate the same thing I told eight when

1202
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: I saw his channel, I said, bro, you got this

1203
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: up there, you need to have MC eight on there.

1204
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: So I'm in the process now going to go get

1205
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: all these other twenty five hundred fake MC eight pages

1206
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: to where somebody probably have been paying their house note, card,

1207
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: note and everything else for the past few years.

1208
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: You know, dinner time is over now now denter.

1209
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 5: Time got to be over because the proper registration is

1210
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: only a mistake of an artist, the lack of adding them.

1211
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 5: That one album with ten songs, but on YouTube, that

1212
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 5: thing got forty five different variations that all paid.

1213
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: It pays the person it pays. So it's people that

1214
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: have a.

1215
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: Song and all they got is girl's booty shaken from

1216
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: YouTube or from Instagram. You know how they got the

1217
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: girls to do their They take them videos, but the

1218
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 5: audio is what the distributors claiming. But this video, whoever

1219
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 5: on the YouTube channel, that portion of the money goes to,

1220
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 5: so it's a separate. But there's guys that all they're

1221
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 5: doing is putting booty girls on a fucking song. And

1222
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, these girls ain't dancing to this song.

1223
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 5: But the way they edited it, they mixed it.

1224
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: They mixing it. It's the part of the song two

1225
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 4: hundred thousand use.

1226
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 5: If the Booties wasn't on there, I don't think it

1227
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 5: probably would have did them numbers. But since them Booties

1228
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 5: on there, it's the same song. But it got the

1229
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 5: booties playing that concept or against the song. And you

1230
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: see Hella shootings or something. Somebody got the dry Bys

1231
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: or something. You know, the gangster rapper, he's showing clips

1232
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 5: from all that they downloaded, but his song is playing.

1233
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 3: That concept.

1234
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 5: Is like, you could take your whatever last album you

1235
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 5: put out and do that same concept right now with

1236
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: just video visuals, with your music playing on the channel,

1237
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 5: and when you load it up money, don't putting nothing

1238
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 5: in between a different video of something else.

1239
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: Nope, take the dead two or however long to fill

1240
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 4: it up.

1241
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 5: So you could release them and they all stand order

1242
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 5: like you didn't put nothing else in between it. It's

1243
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 5: like a bundle pack for you present you representing this

1244
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 5: album again, but it had.

1245
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: A whole other video that it might be you might

1246
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: not be you back in the day.

1247
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: Remember how we used to do the Maxi singles. You

1248
00:59:58,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: do a single, you might have two or three re

1249
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: then you might have another version which you rapping on there.

1250
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. It's a single off feature purposing. Yeah, yep,

1251
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: repurposing the thing. You know what? It reminds me of Man.

1252
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: I remember shout out to the homies that rap a Lot.

1253
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: Right.

1254
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say my man's names. I don't want

1255
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: to get him in trouble. Yeah, but my man who

1256
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: wound up waiter on going to rap a Lot. He

1257
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: was telling me we was coming from Vegas. That's when

1258
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: we had did to deal with high seat down there

1259
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: rap a Lot. So we coming from Vegas, right, and

1260
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: he was telling me, man, I miss E and my

1261
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: He used to be an executive E and I and

1262
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: he told me that. You remember, at one time everybody

1263
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: had million dollar budgets for videos, half million dollar budget

1264
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: and videos. He told me, man that it was just

1265
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: him and maybe two other people worked in the LA office.

1266
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: So what they started doing, they had so many people submitting,

1267
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, for music for deals and stuff. Remember they

1268
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: had E and MY music distribution. They were signed cast

1269
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: to deals, right, but there wasn't a real deal. They

1270
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: never recorded album. They just let him go in the

1271
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: studio and they say, oh, this didn't work out. But

1272
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: in the meantime they got a budget for it. They

1273
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: ran that ten fifteen times. Bro never put out no projects.

1274
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: And then what he told me too that they would

1275
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: do they had they had a real artist. Oh man,

1276
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: you donna sold fifty sixty thousand. They get a whole

1277
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: separate bar code on the record ship off forty fifty

1278
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: thousand copies. Dude, don't know nothing about it because it

1279
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: sound skin say okay, you so you scanning twenty five.

1280
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different bark call.

1281
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: It's cool. But meantime, meanwhile they running it up over

1282
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: there with the other thing.

1283
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 5: Now that that back door in the music industry, go

1284
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 5: back to Marvin Gay and them.

1285
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: And before I was about to say this, before that,

1286
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 3: because it's.

1287
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: Always back next our generation nineteen ninety two, I remember

1288
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 5: the news report that came out that said, uh Biz

1289
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 5: Marquee and Rob based DJ Easy Rock two albums that

1290
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 5: came out. They both sold a million records. The copyright

1291
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 5: infringement came in. They didn't get none of the money.

1292
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,959
Speaker 4: Joy and Pain.

1293
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: Who was that rank?

1294
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Frankie right. They took the whole song Frankie Beverly

1295
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: and just wrapped on top of it and looped it.

1296
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: They didn't change nothing.

1297
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 5: That is when I got scared in ninety two not

1298
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 5: to rap on samples my tape that came out in June.

1299
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 5: My man had got a couple of old records and

1300
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 5: we looped at how y'all was doing y'all thing right

1301
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: when that happened.

1302
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 4: That happened around July August.

1303
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 5: By November December when I dropped my tape, I had

1304
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 5: interpolation so I would play something over and I never

1305
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 5: had to pay a copyright off.

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: So we did we you know, it laid a lot

1307
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: of my shit over once that lawsuit. Shit started, like

1308
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 4: you would put your album out, then they come take

1309
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Speaker 4: all your money.

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Speaker 2: Oh No.

1311
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: I worked for a publishing company and I remember when

1312
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: they was about to hit Dre and them for the

1313
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: one song, all these niggas and all those because they

1314
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: had sampled what was that dunk dunk.

1315
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Speaker 4: Dumb, that's motherfucker looking for that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I worked back, work back. I

1317
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: worked for Minded Music. They owned the publishing for that

1318
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: because what they did was Minded Music did. And it

1319
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: was funny how Karma come back on people, all the

1320
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: cats to rob the Gap band and then Minded Music

1321
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: came and got his ass right, so they had all

1322
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: the gap on the record label. Yeah, they had all

1323
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: the gap the gap bands published and they had the

1324
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: Fat Back Band. What was cold about that though, is

1325
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: they had hit after Math up several times. They didn't

1326
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: want to take trade of court, but he just kept

1327
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: ignoring them. Then when it came time for the actually

1328
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: go to court, he was in their sleep. A million

1329
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: dollars man, Trey was in their sleep. He didn't give

1330
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: a fuck. He got walked out like he didn't care,

1331
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: like it.

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01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 5: Was just a waste his time, because it did because

1333
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 5: he actually had sampled it, or he actually used it.

1334
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually used it. I don't give him the money.

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01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 3: Man.

1336
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 4: We still we're still on tours and we still.

1337
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: Because that's what John said. I said, you can put

1338
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: a season desists. He said, no, why would I do that?

1339
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: This record is doing phenomenal. I said, well, when we

1340
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: go take him the court? He said, we go. Wait,

1341
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: he said, I think it's approaching platinum.

1342
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow wow.

1343
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: Then the check was.

1344
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 6: Bigger speak gonna rap a lot. Jay Prince told me

1345
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 6: that too. With the he had signed the producer seven

1346
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: and when he was doing all this stuff with he

1347
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 6: was signed to Rap a Lot as a producer, and

1348
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 6: when he was doing all the stuff with Murder was

1349
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 6: actually signed. So he said, all my way till jar

1350
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 6: Run and Shanti through their business, then I'm gonna go.

1351
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 6: He goes, why am I gonna step to him?

1352
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: Now?

1353
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: That's the game, and people do do that though, because

1354
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 4: Young Thug was signed to five different record.

1355
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 5: Labels when the big blow up. So you know, I'm

1356
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 5: pretty sure everybody got compensated. But I just if you

1357
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 5: sign a deal for this album, everybody get a deal

1358
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 5: and then this producer or this executive he fall off

1359
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 5: or they go separate ways.

1360
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 4: Whatever.

1361
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 5: Another dude coming, like, I put the money behind Thug

1362
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 5: drop a mixtape. Okay, that came out, then that didn't work.

1363
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: Another guy come, I put some money up, So thug

1364
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 4: was like, shit, whoever got some money to.

1365
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: Put a record out?

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01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 5: But then within that contract though, there were stipulations.

1367
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 3: That you are my artists in some form of fashion.

1368
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 4: So once he got the big deal, all the dudes

1369
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 4: that had a contract, they would know he's my artist.

1370
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 4: Now he's my artist.

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01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 5: But it's so much money involved them. All them dudes

1372
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 5: went away. Whatever check got handed out, it just went silent.

1373
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's just a matter too them. Niggas all got

1374
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 5: that money. You two fifty, you go get seventy five,

1375
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 5: you gonna get yeah, yeah, just go away.

1376
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yo?

1377
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, because some people like shit, getting two three hundred

1378
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 5: thousand from a nigga and you you gave him twenty

1379
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 5: five thousand two three years ago, and now it's finna happen,

1380
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 5: and it's finna be a quarter.

1381
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 2: Million, and so that's good money.

1382
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 4: It's a good investment.

1383
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: That's all I'm trying to say. That's it right there.

1384
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1385
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 5: All way, don't never come back. It's over for two fifty,

1386
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 5: Come on with it.

1387
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this broke because you've been

1388
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: around for a long time, you don't saw all the

1389
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: incarnations of just like everything go from having the Street

1390
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: Team to the where it's on the internet. Now, Man,

1391
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: what do you think about the client that we and

1392
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: now man to where we actually content creative, we stip're

1393
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: having a constructive interview, you know, constructive conversation, right, what

1394
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: do you think about this era manic where people get

1395
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: online wild and then doing everything Now he's on that line.

1396
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: I think.

1397
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 5: I think the internet really just opened the door for

1398
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 5: people to be show they asks you feel me, and

1399
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 5: that will become the new content like Jerry Springer.

1400
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 4: But now every day, all day with random people's Jerry Springer.

1401
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 5: And it's not just per se the shock of you're

1402
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 5: not the father or you are the father.

1403
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: It's the nigga with the gun.

1404
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 4: It's the girl doing something nasty, it's it's anything that

1405
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 4: that's not considered your mom and dad or granting them

1406
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 4: you wouldn't do this in front of them. I think

1407
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: the art of the Internet and people longing to be

1408
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 4: famous has made people just really go to through all

1409
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 4: kinds of steps to be a celebrity, and they don't

1410
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 4: even have to be like we consider celebrities like artists,

1411
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 4: like ourselves, movie stars, or you know famous sports figures.

1412
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: Motherfucker a bit slapping herself with a cake and shit

1413
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: on on Instagram. Now is the form of being famous,

1414
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: that's right, that's right, A regular, a regular person. You know,

1415
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 4: people do all these outrageous acts now to become famous.

1416
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: And that's because I say, our generation, uh don't accept

1417
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 4: being normal anymore.

1418
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: Don't me.

1419
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 4: Back when I was a kid, you know, my uncle

1420
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: worked at the gas company.

1421
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: He was a normal motherfucker.

1422
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't have visions of I gotta be

1423
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 4: the next you know, Wesley, or I gotta be the

1424
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: next you know. You know my auntie worked as a nurse.

1425
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 4: She didn't go fuck. You know, I gotta start taking

1426
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: I gotta get in Playboy, or I gotta be in Pinout.

1427
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1428
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 4: Some people were just regular, our the generation now I

1429
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 4: think because of like I said, everything is monetized.

1430
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: Now.

1431
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: You give me YouTube and only fans and Instagram and

1432
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 4: everything you can make a dollar out of. And then

1433
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 4: it's ridiculous as the steps people are take. Like I said,

1434
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 4: nobody's comfortable with being normal. You get me a job,

1435
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: because before I discovered that I could write a song

1436
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 4: or tell a story or whatever. My visions was to

1437
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 4: be a normal motherfucker, you know, until I was introduced

1438
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 4: to the gang life and selling dope and whatever whatever.

1439
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 4: But like I said, I didn't plan on, you know,

1440
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 4: being MC eight or being a famous whatever. When my

1441
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 4: father worked at General Motors. My mom's worked as a

1442
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: as a CNA or a nurse or whatever. So your

1443
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 4: visions of being a normal kid, that's what it was.

1444
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 4: I think now growing up with all this fucking like

1445
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 4: you say, motherfucking put a studio in his house. Today,

1446
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: motherfucker can film movies on his phone. Females, can you know,

1447
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: go get their asses done and take pictures on Instagram

1448
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 4: and their their Instagram models the only fans playing with

1449
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: themselves all day or dude, to get a shit. You

1450
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: can be famous by fucking a regular motherfucker who cooked

1451
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 4: dinner for his family.

1452
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 5: Do you know what I want to say? That who's

1453
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 5: single handily? I think who's single handily? Now when I'm

1454
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 5: hearing you say that, we gotta say, look at this

1455
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: word YouTube right right. First, it used to be films

1456
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 5: that somebody make to show us. But somebody said, how

1457
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 5: about we make a platform where you gonna be on

1458
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 5: the tube the regular person.

1459
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 4: I think that was a thought. Let's take the camera

1460
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 4: off of let's let's create it ourselves. We're gonna put

1461
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 4: the camera on the regular people and thet's see what

1462
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 4: they do. Because that's crazy, as he when I just

1463
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 4: listened what you're saying. And I think before social media.

1464
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 5: It was YouTube was a big thing where you can

1465
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: be somebody, right, and that's how they market it. YouTube

1466
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 5: it's about you upload your yourself doing your life.

1467
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: We I'm gonna give you us both some game and

1468
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what they're doing. Rupert Murdock, I

1469
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: think is the guy owns Fox. Right, Yes, these platforms do.

1470
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what YouTube's grand plan is.

1471
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: Right.

1472
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: YouTube also has YouTube TV where they have a bunch

1473
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: of fast channels on that right, a bunch of channels.

1474
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: Black people are good for bringing attention to stuff, right.

1475
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: You know we're consumers, right, We a lot of us

1476
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: are consumers, not owners. We bring attention to stuff. So

1477
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: now you got guys like, let's say, like our YouTube

1478
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: channel got like a couple hundred thousand people on the right,

1479
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: he might have fifty thousand, his may have three hundred thousand.

1480
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: Right.

1481
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: When you add that up all these music channels, you

1482
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: got people that are own they're now right, that are

1483
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: signed up for YouTube. If you notice, they're starting to

1484
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: crack down a lot of stuff. You seeing people get

1485
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: their channel snatched down left and right right with that bullshit. Okay,

1486
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: we're letting you go. They're building it up, bro, They're

1487
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: using other people to build their platform, right, and they

1488
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna snatch you all this away from everybody else pretty soon.

1489
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what's really crazy about this is

1490
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: that people that get caught up in YouTube. I got

1491
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 1: nieces and nephews. That's all they've been raised on is

1492
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: YouTube because their mama or daddy give them the tablet

1493
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: in the morning instead of going out taking them outside

1494
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 1: the play. Remember we used to go outside and play football,

1495
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: basketball and stuff. Now people just give their kid the tablet,

1496
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: and it makes it people to think that that's real life.

1497
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: That's not the real world, right. I get a lot

1498
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: of people that come to me because they just think

1499
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: I could make somebody's podcast pot. They don't understand the

1500
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: work that goes into it. They don't even understand the

1501
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: audio component on it. Me and we made ten times

1502
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: the amount of money on audio that.

1503
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: We do on YouTube.

1504
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 3: Am I right?

1505
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: Egg right?

1506
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 1: And my line is talking? You mean yeah, just talk

1507
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: to y'all, just audio, just playing audio. So I get

1508
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: people come to me because everybody thinks that, oh, it's

1509
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: just easy. They get up there talking. They don't know

1510
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: about Yoh, you gotta do research. You gotta have something

1511
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: to actually converse with these people about when they come on. Right,

1512
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: So I get people to get mad when they see

1513
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: me working with somebody. I don't sign everybody. I don't

1514
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: sign people no more because it's too much of a

1515
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: headache because I can do no right with that. It

1516
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: don't matter if I change your life or not. I'm

1517
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: gonna wind up be an asshole. I get to see

1518
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: all that to say. I get this text message the

1519
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: other night from a random number. I don't know who

1520
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: this is?

1521
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: Man?

1522
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: Why you put that ugly hell on? I respond back with,

1523
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 1: who is this She is trash, she's boring. You should

1524
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: have fucked with me again? Who is this man?

1525
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 4: She canceled.

1526
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,959
Speaker 1: I just blocked the number because he hasn't revealed himself.

1527
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: People aren't even men nowadays in this culture because they

1528
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: can hide behind the screen right. Have you ever noticed

1529
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: that you may have a fan that's talking shit to you,

1530
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: and then once you acknowledge him, like, what the fuck

1531
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: is it that you want?

1532
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 4: Dude? I don't even know you. Oh, I just wanted

1533
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 4: to talk to you.

1534
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 3: Man.

1535
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 5: I didn't have people come on my page and say shit.

1536
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 5: And then I'm like, let me go hit this motherfucker director.

1537
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna respond. And then I go to my

1538
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 5: messages and he didn't have messages months ago praising me

1539
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 5: or something that he wanted to interact. But this message

1540
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 5: that made me look on his page was some negative.

1541
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 5: But when I go to send them a message, it's

1542
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 5: messages that I never respond into.

1543
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 4: That David trying to work with me, you probably didn't

1544
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 4: even know you had. I'm a bitch ass nigga open

1545
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: in my on these messages. Man, what's up? Bro? Hook

1546
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: up with me? That's connected. Dudes like that just be

1547
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 4: want your attention. I get that sometime. And then once

1548
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: you acknowledge, because like you said, I'm not gonna get

1549
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: on you know, platform, in front of everyone, So you'll

1550
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 4: go to a messaging motherfucker and as soon as you

1551
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 4: say something to a motherfucker, they'll be instantly Oh my

1552
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 4: bad man, you know what I'm saying. I was just saying, man,

1553
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 4: you know, you know I hold I dig your work

1554
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 4: and all this. So I'm really a fan. People just

1555
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,839
Speaker 4: be wanting. Like I said, everybody wants their five minutes

1556
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: of fame. You can. You can watch whatever platform, and

1557
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 4: you see people doing all kinds of shit just to

1558
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: get that five minutes of fame. And that's why I say,

1559
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 4: nobody wants to be in this day and age, Nobody

1560
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 4: wants to be a regular motherfucker. Everybody wants to be

1561
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 4: a podcast or an artist, or or a fucking comedian

1562
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 4: or or a fucking content that's what they call content.

1563
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 4: Content creator. Everything is a content creator. Now there's no

1564
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: other word for influence. It is funny. I'm an influencer. Yeah,

1565
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm an influencer and the content creator. And like you

1566
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 4: look on the motherfucker's page and you look on the

1567
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 4: females page and they be half naked or doing their

1568
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 4: modern dance or whatever whatever, and then they go out.

1569
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm an influencer.

1570
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 4: Your affluence in motherfuckers to be neckdake ass. I mean,

1571
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 4: that's your content that you bring.

1572
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: You never take the time out to learn the business.

1573
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 1: Everybody think is they got a YouTube channel, they got

1574
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: a thing. First of all, I've seen people go out

1575
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: in the vista enormous amounts of money into YouTube, right.

1576
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: The first thing I tell let me say, Okay, you

1577
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: spent fifty thousand dollars on building this elaborate sit right,

1578
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: got you a building you're paying rent on every month.

1579
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: It's cool that you're making that YouTube money, but what

1580
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: happens when you YouTube? Besides that they no longer want

1581
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: to fuck with this nigga? Snatch some shit down, man.

1582
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: I went through that. I was up to almost one.

1583
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 5: Hundred thousand, right about to graduate from my first plaque,

1584
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 5: and I got hit, hacked or whatever the hell, right,

1585
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 5: and that's the second time I got my JT. The

1586
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 5: bigger figure page took in twenty sixteen. I was like

1587
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 5: about sixty some thousand at that time. But that was

1588
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 5: good for me because for what I do, that's more

1589
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 5: than enough for what I'm selling. Right, Shit, if a

1590
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 5: thousand people out of sixty thousand was tunked in, I

1591
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 5: was happy with just a number of people. Right when

1592
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 5: that channel got took and I really realized how many

1593
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 5: people don't even have my direct number, and how many

1594
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: people I don't I can't. I don't know their number

1595
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 5: because I was talking to them through Instagram.

1596
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 4: You know.

1597
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 5: That was my way of communicating. Losing that shit is

1598
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 5: losing your money. Losing your account is losing your money.

1599
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 5: So part of why I have this traffics at right now.

1600
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 5: Trap flicks for me is something I can continue to

1601
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 5: upgrade now. But going to Africa, I found the developers

1602
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 5: because I said, and in the very near future, you're

1603
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 5: gonna have to have your own platform, because they gonna

1604
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 5: they gonna community guidelines you to death if you say

1605
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 5: this or if you don't they don't agree with Someone

1606
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 5: talked about that earlier, like Nick hold on, I just

1607
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 5: repost somebody shit, how I'm getting flagged over some I

1608
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 5: thought it was dope or I thought it was this. Nope,

1609
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 5: that's against our community guideline. I say, oh no, in

1610
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 5: a minute, they gonna charge us to go live because

1611
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 5: that's too much access.

1612
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: We not taking advantage of posting shit.

1613
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: Watch when it's tightened up and it costs money to post,

1614
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 4: and you gotta put credits on your account. Exactly, you

1615
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 4: can't go live. You ain't got no more credits. That's

1616
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 4: about to happen.

1617
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 5: Boy if right now they told all of us it's

1618
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nine, right now to have a deluxe Instagram

1619
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 5: account where you can still go live, we'll all pay

1620
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 5: the nineteen dollars. If they got a billion subscribed, Theykka's

1621
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 5: made twenty billion dollars in one month. Because nobody's gonna say, oh,

1622
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't want my Instagram account no more. You're gonna

1623
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: pay that money.

1624
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: Like when they start opening for Motherfuckers to Blo the

1625
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: Blue Chicks, which I thought was ridiculous. I said it,

1626
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: and you saw everybody ego, the ego of the person.

1627
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 3: Listen. Did you know when you go listen bro at

1628
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: down South?

1629
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 5: World Star hip hop was very important to your campaign

1630
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 5: live mixtapes. World Star two components that you paid to

1631
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 5: put your album to get your buzz right, one thousand

1632
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: dollars to put your video on world Star on the

1633
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 5: regular box. Hell of people paying a thousand to get

1634
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 5: their video. You want to be on the big box,

1635
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 5: the middle box, next one up, thirty five hundred. You

1636
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 5: want to pay for the bigger box five thousand and

1637
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 5: six thousand and seven thousand dollars and you can be

1638
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 5: guaranteed to make a million plays or whatever. Right, And

1639
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 5: I look at everybody who dropping in the big box

1640
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 5: always land at a million one point two to one

1641
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 5: point five.

1642
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 4: Little did we know? No, it ain't just because it's

1643
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: a bigger box. They got an algorithm set up on

1644
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 4: this box that's going to hear a million views. So

1645
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 4: we like me.

1646
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 5: Paying for that. Those are the bragging rights down south

1647
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 5: is how many views you got? Oh, you're in a

1648
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 5: big box. Okay, he got his shit must be popping.

1649
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 3: Okay.

1650
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 4: We pay for the ego of being able to say that.

1651
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 5: I got a million views. I don't hear people talking

1652
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 5: about paying for world stars like how I used to hear.

1653
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 5: But that was a way to get your your video

1654
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 5: out JT.

1655
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 6: This brings me to a question. A lot of what

1656
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 6: you've been talking about is different cities, different stages, different eras.

1657
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 6: What made you want to and actually move so much

1658
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 6: and be in so many different places because so many

1659
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 6: people stay in one area their whole life.

1660
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 5: I think what I learned is that the mistake I

1661
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 5: made and the wind that Matt P made is that

1662
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 5: even though his kickoff for master p was the Bay Area,

1663
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 5: it wasn't down south. First, it was us, but he

1664
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 5: saw this ain't big enough, and it's other places that

1665
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 5: we can go that we can have an impact and.

1666
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 4: His money go further down there and be able.

1667
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 5: To become something that's not there. And that is the

1668
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 5: mistake that I made. I never forget Master P Silk

1669
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 5: the Shocker see murder King George.

1670
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 3: They pull up to my house.

1671
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 5: They going on the promo run to go to Milwaukee, Tennessee, Oklahoma.

1672
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 5: It's about ten twelve days and they invited me to come.

1673
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 5: And I can only remember paying master P five thousand

1674
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 5: dollars to deteck my posters and my flyers and put

1675
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 5: them up wherever he put his shit up at.

1676
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if he did it or not. We

1677
01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 4: paid them the five thousand.

1678
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 5: That was a big fucking mistake because I would have

1679
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 5: been known in them places if I just would have

1680
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 5: did the promo. But since it wasn't paid and Pete

1681
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 5: toombout going on promo tour, it didn't sound exciting to me.

1682
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 3: That was a big mistake.

1683
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 5: When I saw his results in sales and all these

1684
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 5: other little country towns in different places, and these are

1685
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 5: places that I should have went to go at least

1686
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 5: do a campaign run. I didn't know nobody and none

1687
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 5: of these other cities. But Master p knew these people

1688
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 5: from going on the promo run. So I was seeing

1689
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 5: the results of that through the priority deal. How it

1690
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 5: helped him to be national because he drove to them

1691
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 5: places and passed out shirts and tapes and CDs and

1692
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 5: put up posters and that mistake. In twenty ten, I

1693
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 5: finally left the Bay Area. Many years later, that's like,

1694
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 5: what fifteen years later, I finally dined on me j T.

1695
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 5: You got to get out the baby, bro. Just because

1696
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 5: I'm big out here, that shit don't mean nothing. This

1697
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 5: ain't bringing no income for me. I had to go.

1698
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 5: So going to Atlanta was a challenge. It was difficult,

1699
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 5: but the reward is I got a fresh kickoff in

1700
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 5: the rap game again, brand new from scratch. It was

1701
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 5: like I was a new artist. They didn't know how

1702
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 5: old I was. They didn't really know the level of.

1703
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: The same thing happened with Short when he moved to Atlanta.

1704
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 5: Now that's the other thing too. Short moved out to

1705
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 5: Atlanta and got a brand new start. Yeah, fucking with

1706
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 5: Little John and them. Eve forty moved to Atlanta and

1707
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 5: got a new start. That's Oakland, that's Valeo, I represent Fresco.

1708
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 4: So forty moved to Atlanta. Yeah, he stayed out there

1709
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 4: for about two years. Yeah, fucking with little just card Yep,

1710
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 4: I'll never forget it.

1711
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 5: Like damn forty Water came back harder when he came back,

1712
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:59,759
Speaker 5: too short, came back with the vengeance. But he left

1713
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 5: because that war that was happening in Oakland was deadly

1714
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 5: and he didn't want to be no parts of that shit.

1715
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 5: He took hisself up out of that and I had

1716
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 5: to do the same thing. War happening in my area, Like, man,

1717
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 5: I ain't part.

1718
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 4: Of this war. My hood, all my bros that that

1719
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 4: we loved each other, now they all want to kill

1720
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 4: each other and then started doing it, and I'm like, man,

1721
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 4: I ain't part of this shit. I'm taking film Mo

1722
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 4: with me. Y'all can have Field Mod the Gang. I'm

1723
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 4: i'ma gonna make film Mode the game independent Gang. Yeah,

1724
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 4: we're gonna be known.

1725
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 5: I want Field More to be known as what used

1726
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 5: to be us Hella entrepreneurs.

1727
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 4: Then he went to gang banging and killing.

1728
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 5: Gangbanging killing have dominated us for the last Damnar fifteen

1729
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:49,440
Speaker 5: twenty years. No motion of entrepreneurs taking flight from our projects.

1730
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 3: The best thing happened.

1731
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 5: From our hoods so far is the mayor of San

1732
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 5: Francisco London Breed is from fill mo out our projects.

1733
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 5: Let's do so that's the biggest example of somebody who

1734
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 5: come from a real project, Like she went to our school,

1735
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 5: everything with us.

1736
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 4: She the fucking mayor. Now that should make some other

1737
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 4: people who want to go in that vein. You know,

1738
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 4: I don't want politics, but just for somebody from the projects.

1739
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 5: Now, I know the dude she was. She was planning

1740
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 5: a position and the and the current mayor had died.

1741
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 5: She was the closest person to the mayor, and I

1742
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 5: guess the people said, how about give her a chance?

1743
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 5: And then some other people were bigger money like, nah,

1744
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 5: we don't want her. But the people remember her from

1745
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 5: being with the mayor that died. She fucking along got

1746
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 5: the job. That's a dope store. He died and she

1747
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 5: wasn't linked up to be no mayor.

1748
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 4: She knew all the business of how the fucking dang

1749
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 4: run because she was under the mayor, the city, all

1750
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 4: the ins and outs, and.

1751
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 3: They trusted her so yeah, and they trusted her son.

1752
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: Before we wrap it up over here, man, I want

1753
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: to ask you this, man, do you get a lot

1754
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: of cash wanting you to consult for them?

1755
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 5: Ever since the No Jumper interview, I think the No

1756
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 5: Jumper interview and this is crazy to me. The whole

1757
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 5: time I was in Africa, I've never saw a black

1758
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 5: American rapper or even a black American go to the

1759
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 5: slums of Africa and do what the fuck I did.

1760
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 4: I built three water wells. I'm feeding thousands of people.

1761
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 4: Do you know it was zero press on me. Nobody highlighted. Man,

1762
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 4: this motherfucker JT is in the fucking Burkina fossil They

1763
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 4: blowing up busses over here. They killed fourteen villagers over there. Meanwhile,

1764
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, you could die in America at a

1765
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 4: gas station, Nigga. This seemed most safer to me with

1766
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 4: terrorist attacks in Africa than being in Atlanta, jo or

1767
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 4: La or San Francisco because of the murder rate and

1768
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 4: the robbery. Nigga will see this watch and lose their

1769
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 4: whole life over just this watch right now, or some

1770
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 4: ear rings or even your shoes dawn there. So the

1771
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 4: consultation part of me successfully doing that Africa shit and

1772
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 4: coming back and now for ten months i've been back

1773
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 4: in America.

1774
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 3: The No Jumper ship was the first thing to highlight.

1775
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 5: Me a big platform to say j T. Bro, my people,

1776
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 5: you know Item twenty two hit me. I've been wanted

1777
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 5: to go on there. I just didn't know how fucking

1778
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 5: around he hit me direct talking about man. My people said,

1779
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 5: I need to talk to you and get you in here.

1780
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 5: They telling me you got a story that they ain't

1781
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 5: been told and I need to be I'm like, damn,

1782
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 5: that's crazy fucking right. He like, I need you here

1783
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 5: three days. I'm like, I'm coming. I drove from Atlanta

1784
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 5: to come here. But my folks and I felt it

1785
01:26:59,040 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 5: was gonna be good.

1786
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 3: Too, right.

1787
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,960
Speaker 4: I say, Bro, this shit gonna seem like a fake

1788
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 4: ass story, but it's a real story because it seemed

1789
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 4: too good to be true all the elements of my

1790
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 4: life and what I've been through.

1791
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 5: And I have a NonStop career of thirty one years.

1792
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 5: From June ninety two to right now, I never went

1793
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 5: to sell dope again, even though a few thirsty moments

1794
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 5: niggas had a few pounds.

1795
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 4: Yes, I did grab a few pounds. The prophet wasn't

1796
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 4: good and I didn't like that.

1797
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 5: I said, nigga, I can go to jail for these pounds, nigga,

1798
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,759
Speaker 5: And that's all the profit off each pound.

1799
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,799
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's a movie in itself. Man, exactly.

1800
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,639
Speaker 1: You know before we go, Man, I want to ask

1801
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: you just one more question, man, Tupac. I think people

1802
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: forget a lot of times. He's from the bay. He's

1803
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: a baby dude, you know, came up with ray Love

1804
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: and all of them cats. Shout out Ray Loved, humboyant

1805
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: dog and all them cats. Right, they finally man done

1806
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: what the streets.

1807
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: New for years?

1808
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 6: Right?

1809
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: They put Keefy d in jail? How many years later?

1810
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Twenty six twenty six years? Do you think this is

1811
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: a publicity stunt? Do you even think it makes sense?

1812
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 5: Do you know every podcast I just went on they

1813
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 5: said something about it and nicking. My answer to that,

1814
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 5: I think that shit fake in some kind of way,

1815
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 5: because why would you do something that you know there's

1816
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 5: no statue of limitations?

1817
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1818
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 3: I think he got paid to say he was in

1819
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 3: that car.

1820
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 4: Bro.

1821
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: Now, the streets being in La jt Nah is confirmed,

1822
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 5: I say, But why would he go tell this shep

1823
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 5: and then keep trying to confirm that he handed a

1824
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 5: gun at a murder of a famous.

1825
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 3: Cloud or he got paid.

1826
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 4: It's either he wanted to credit the sheet so bad

1827
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: because they said something about he got immunity.

1828
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 5: Tell us who killed Tupac Anderson? He's dead, will do okay?

1829
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 5: Case should be closed, right, So that is probably what

1830
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 5: gave him more strength or confidence to talk to.

1831
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 4: V Lad that we all know.

1832
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 5: Whatever you sit on that motherfucker you you you got

1833
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 5: to you got to stand on that. Then they say

1834
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 5: he wrote a book where he detailed it.

1835
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 4: Again. I say, bro, that shit can't be real. What

1836
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 4: street nigga gonna say they did this ship right?

1837
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 3: It's money involved? Okay?

1838
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 5: Well, how well he go? Another theory that's going around

1839
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 5: that you probably heard. He's so mad at P Diddy

1840
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 5: nigga for not getting his money. He don't mind going

1841
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 5: down if he could take P Diddy down. You think

1842
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 5: might go to jail for this ship if it's true,

1843
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 5: because how do you supposed to give me a million

1844
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 5: dollars in a nigga you get a million dollars too?

1845
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 3: He run off?

1846
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 4: So does that mean P Diddy paid because the money

1847
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 4: didn't make it to him, So how could he go

1848
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 4: down for it if the other nigga ran off with

1849
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 4: the money?

1850
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that make him almost like if this is

1851
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 3: all true, that makes him a.

1852
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 4: Conspiracy A conspiracy man, I don't I don't know what

1853
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 4: it is. So it's crazy. It's crazy. Can people get

1854
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 4: X you at bro Man? They could get at me?

1855
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 5: First of all, I would ask anybody who watched this interview,

1856
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 5: if you want to support me? Man, I'm about to

1857
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 5: be fifty years old and a few more days god willing,

1858
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 5: I said, I don't want to be rapping at fifty,

1859
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 5: So I want to be like Bill Gates and Steve Job.

1860
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 5: Both of them started out with not that much. Both

1861
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 5: of them didn't graduate, but they got the hold to

1862
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 5: some coding. Bill Gates didn't write Microsoft. Another person did,

1863
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 5: and he bought it. And once you could buy the

1864
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 5: intellectual property, you can have engineers build on it.

1865
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 3: Right.

1866
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 5: Steve Jobs didn't write the Apple code. Steve Wisniak is

1867
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 5: the other Steve that you don't hear about. He the

1868
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 5: one that wrote it. So what did I learn from

1869
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 5: these two dudes? Buy my own codes for software so

1870
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 5: that I can be able to license my software and

1871
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 5: grow from that. So I want everybody to download my

1872
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 5: app Trafflicks. Man, I'm proud I just got it back.

1873
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 5: Going shout out to my people in Nairobi, Kenya, all

1874
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 5: the developers who developed it for me, because it's original coding.

1875
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 5: That means that if you guys ever have a problem

1876
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 5: with the app you getting made and you like this

1877
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 5: new version of what I got, I can license this

1878
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 5: over to you.

1879
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 4: You can tafinitely build after.

1880
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: This show, bro, Because yeah, y'all go be able to

1881
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: find a link for trap flicks down below right there

1882
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: in the description.

1883
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 3: This iOS platform and on the Google androy phone is free.

1884
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 4: We will have the Google platform and the iOS platform

1885
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 4: down there and JT the bigger figure Instagram them two

1886
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 4: things right there. Man.

1887
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 3: That's how we tap in. And I appreciate y'all boys

1888
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: man for having no real shit.

1889
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 4: Ain't listen.

1890
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 3: I told my man, I said, I supposed to go

1891
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: back to the bay, but I remember me and you talked.

1892
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 4: I say, I better text things. I said, man, what

1893
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 4: it was? Somebody told him?

1894
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: They said, you know how the internet is, why you

1895
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: couldn't go on the black platform. I don't know why

1896
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 1: they'd be just and I said, well, I said, well,

1897
01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 1: he said, none of the brothers invited me. I said, hey, man,

1898
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: we're black over here. That's why I'm like, oh yeah,

1899
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,719
Speaker 1: I forgot. I did have somebody.

1900
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 3: That's why I had to come down here and make

1901
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 3: sure I pulled up in box.

1902
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go because you know how the internet is,

1903
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: they want to get all involved in this stuff.

1904
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 4: So if you hear me direct and I told you,

1905
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 4: I say, nah, no disrespect you did.

1906
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 3: I forgot.

1907
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 4: And I didn't know. Remember, I didn't know who you was.

1908
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 4: I didn't know if this you was real. When we

1909
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 4: was pulled up, I said, man, let me get my

1910
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 4: pistol I real quick, make sure this is the real guys,

1911
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 4: because I didn't know. Remember, I don't know your face.

1912
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 4: But when you say eight, I'm like, well I know

1913
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 4: that man right there. He had been like, man, you

1914
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,960
Speaker 4: got to call because he stayed on the internet.

1915
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Man, Okay, he still salute my.

1916
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So yeah, brother, nah man and and and

1917
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 4: whatever knowledge that I did get, because what you was

1918
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: showing me you already y'all already own it. But I

1919
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 4: want to give you what I got from Africa. Yeah,

1920
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: for sure, that I want to give it to you what.

1921
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't want nothing for it. I want to give

1922
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: you the information, and I guarantee whatever information y'all are

1923
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 4: already got, you're gonna be able to balance some shit

1924
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 4: out and be like, oh, we didn't have this piece

1925
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 4: or that piece of that.

1926
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 1: In a minute, bro, none of this stuff is gonna

1927
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: be available on YouTube outside of the clips.

1928
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 4: He can tell you. I'm taking my shit off too.

1929
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I spent twenty four thousand dollars how many years ago

1930
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: was that bran that was doing the one app, only

1931
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: to realize I didn't have enough money to do exat

1932
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: So I didn't look at that twenty four thousand as

1933
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: a waste.

1934
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 4: I looked at it as an education, right.

1935
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, education, because that's exactly I

1936
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: ran through. Brother.

1937
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 5: When you're dealing with software that is more cut thought

1938
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 5: than the goddamn dope game and the rap game put together.

1939
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 4: You know why money.

1940
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 5: Because the person who's developing you got to give him

1941
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 5: access to your server, so that's passwords. You got to

1942
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,680
Speaker 5: get him access to your Apple developer account and your

1943
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 5: Google developer account.

1944
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 3: They got to have passwords.

1945
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 4: So when they building something that you're paying for anything

1946
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 4: you unsatisfied with. They already planning it in your shit.

1947
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 4: We ain't gonna get these cast listening to all okay, okay,

1948
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about that all my fault. We're gonna

1949
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 4: get up out of here. We will see y'all next week.

1950
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 3: We out hit the.

1951
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: Linklow picture real quick, Carlos.

1952
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 1: And also and also against the Chronicles merch coming out

1953
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: next week designed by MC eight.

1954
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 4: We got it.

1955
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 3: Come bright here and get one. Oh oh, ship me

1956
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 3: this picture right.

1957
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 4: Here lit good. Yeah, we ain't getting no good one.

1958
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 4: They got a few turn This is this issue right here, man,