1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: working on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: How there's a bar made? Dare good looking young lady 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: see serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: three olives, class of water on the side. I finished 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am, 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I give her one hundred hours. If you're with the mob, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: means we protect you. Nobody could shake you down. We 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger Show. This is the 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. I want you to imagine something. I 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: want you to imagine your home with your family, wife, kids. 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I want you to imagine the electricity is out and 24 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: has been out. The water in your home is out 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: and has been out. The sewer in your home home 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: is out and has been out. You must go forage 27 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: for food and water. And you don't have to do 28 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to be somewhere other than your home. 29 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean your residential neighborhood, your apartment. This is taking 30 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: place where you are. You have to go out and 31 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: find food and find water. Your children are asking repeatedly, 32 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: can I come with you? Can I go outside? Can 33 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I go outside and play? Can I can I see 34 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: the sun? And you cannot let your children out of 35 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: your home because if you let your children out of 36 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: your home, somebody is going to grab them and eat them. 37 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: What I just described for you is not the Walking Dead, 38 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: It's not some zombie movie. That's real. That happened, and 39 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: it happened in a place called Leningrad. We talk a 40 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: lot endlessly and we always will on this show about 41 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: the Eastern Front of World War two, Germany versus the Soviets. 42 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: I talk about it for a variety of reasons. One 43 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: nobody else talks about it because nobody likes either side. 44 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: You can't find much information on the Eastern Front of 45 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: World War Two. There's a great Dan Carlin hardcore history 46 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: multi point podcast on it called what is It? War 47 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: on the Off Front? I think it was called something 48 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: to do something like that. Either way, go downloaded if 49 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: you if you want, if you find that interesting, But 50 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't touch on Leningrad, I don't believe, but it's 51 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: a great one. There's that movie Enemy at the Gates 52 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: with Jude Law and Ed Harris about some sniper battle 53 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: that took place in Stalingrad and there was some historical 54 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 1: significance there, and it was a cool movie. It gives 55 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you a good visual of what Stalingrad was probably like. 56 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: But beyond that, tell me, what have you seen about 57 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: the Eastern Front. It doesn't happen. Everything is Everything's d 58 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Day everything, you know, the airborne dropping in parachutes. You 59 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: get plenty of stuff on the war and the Pacific 60 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: and Marines fighting the Japanese. You get some stuff on Africa. 61 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: You get a million things on the Holocaust. Pearl Harbor Now, 62 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: all the high points, all the World War two high points, 63 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: you just don't get the Eastern Front. And it's simple. 64 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: Both sides are scumbags. You have Nazis. Ain't anybody pulling 65 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: for the Nazis. And you have the dirty Commies, which 66 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, granted, half of America probably rooting for them now, 67 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: but back in the day, nobody's rooting for the dirty, 68 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: in humane Commies. And yet I will always talk about 69 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: it on this show because it is, as I've said before, 70 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: without question, if you were to just separate the Eastern 71 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: Front off, it is the biggest war in the history 72 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: of mankind. Just that part of it, just that part 73 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: of twenty seven million plus Russians died, Just the Russians 74 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven million, You know how many people that is. 75 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: It's so big a cave and wrap your mind around it. 76 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: It is so vast and so vicious and full of hatred. 77 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: It's not as if other wars are full of love. 78 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: But the Nazis and the way they conducted themselves, even 79 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: in some Eastern European countries that they were essentially given, 80 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: people would welcome them flowers, hamming flowers. Oh well, off, sweet, 81 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: it's so nice. Germany's here, and then a week later 82 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: the Nazis are just look their Nazis. They're executing everybody. 83 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: They're horrible, and they're they're killing so many Soviets that 84 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: then the Soviets start returning the favor. These are not 85 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: exactly people who are gonna lay down and take that. 86 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: And then they're just war crime after war crime, massive 87 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: war crimes, throwing people out in the cold and spraying 88 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: them down with ice with water just to watch them. 89 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm just just horrible. So people don't talk about it. 90 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: I talk about it though, is huge, It's horrible. And 91 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: what's wild is I've done iventually. I've done ten fifteen 92 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: shows on various parts of the Eastern Front of World 93 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: War Two. I've ever done one on maybe the biggest 94 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: siege in the history of mankind possibly. I mean, I've 95 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: done them on Moscow, Stalin Grad, and we'll do them again. 96 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I've done just various parts of I've never done one 97 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: on Leningrad. I even went over Zukov Georgie Zukov the 98 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: other day, and I didn't mention Leningrad, and it just 99 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: wasn't time in the show. I just skipped right over 100 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: it and it is amazing. Not necessarily militarily, we'll get 101 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: to that, but civilian wise, that story I told you 102 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, that's real. We'll get 103 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: to that, but that's real. Now, if you're wondering where 104 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Leningrad is, you're pulling up your Google Maps trying to 105 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: get a good idea of things, You're not going to 106 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: see it on there because it's no longer there. They 107 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: have renamed Leningrad Saint Petersburg, not Saint Petersburg, Florida. It's 108 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: important you remember that Petersburg, Russia. So if you would 109 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: like to know, and in fact, I think you probably 110 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: should know what we're dealing with here, I highly suggest 111 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: this is the point where you pull up your little 112 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: map and look up Saint Petersburg in Russia. For those 113 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: of you driving or not in a place where you're 114 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: able to do this, allow me to lay out where 115 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: this is. This is the far far far northwest corner 116 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: of Russia. I don't expect you to be a geographic expert, 117 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: but just know it's essentially on I mean not essentially. 118 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: It's on the Baltic Sea. That's where it is. It's 119 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: on the Baltic Sea. And there's also a huge lake. 120 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: See the Baltic Sea lies to Saint Petersburg's west. As 121 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you're looking down on it, that's the left lake. Ladoga 122 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: is on the east, it's on the right. And that 123 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: lake is really going to matter in our story. Just 124 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: know that that's what we're dealing with here. Now back 125 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: to the actual invasion, and I'm not going to cover 126 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: all that because I have a thousand times. I'll do 127 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: it again another thousand times. But Arbor Operation Barbarossa, that 128 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: was the name of the invasion of the Soviet Union. Remember, 129 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: Hitler and Stalin had signed a non aggressive pack. Stalin, 130 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: hey you can have you can have half of Poland. Stalin, 131 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: you'd take eastern Europe. Hitler's all take western Europe. We'll 132 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: just be two scumbags with our own territories. But Hitler 133 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: had plans to invade, slaughter the Jews in and then 134 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: colonize the Soviet Union all along. He had no no 135 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: qualms about the fact he was coming. Stalin, however, was very, 136 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: very very worried about him coming, but didn't think he 137 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: would come. Stalin knew the journe him and war machine 138 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: was formidable, and he knew as it stood early on, 139 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: he did not really have the army that could fight 140 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: him off. At least early on, he knew how brutal 141 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: that would be for his country. And Stalin, remember Stalin, 142 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: more than anything else, was a man all about holding 143 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: on to power. And as history has shown, you get 144 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: an invading army, you can't fight him off. That's a 145 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: great way to lose power. So Stalin did some really 146 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: dumb things early. Hang on, we'll talk about it. This 147 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: is a Jesse Kelly show. 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He's 166 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: so desperate that Hitler doesn't invade. He's where he's gonna 167 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: end up, throwing him out of power, that he bans 168 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: what he calls provocative actions, meaning any Soviet build up 169 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: on the border that would help them prepare for Hitler's invasion, 170 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: which people were telling him is coming. He's like, oh, now, 171 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: we can't dig in defenses there. That'll look bad. We can't. 172 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: That's how lame Stalin was in this whole thing. But 173 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Hitler does invade, as you well know. And Hitler devades, invades, 174 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: and splits his invading force up into three different groups 175 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Army Group South, Army Group Center, Army Group North. Forget 176 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: about the South, just know that the Center, this is 177 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: going to come into play later, was heading towards Moscow. 178 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: Army Group North was heading towards Leningrad. Now Why were 179 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: they heading towards Leningrad A couple of different reasons. Leningrad 180 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: was a huge, important city, and Hitler well knew it 181 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: would have been extremely demoralizing and devastating to the Soviet 182 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Union as a whole if Leningrad fell. In fact, had 183 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: he been able to take Leningrad and Moscow, and it 184 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: was a near run thing for both, had he been 185 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: able to take them, Soviet Union falls, he wins that war. 186 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: So one, it was the moral part of it. Two, 187 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Leningrad was a humongous industrial city. Soviet Union could churn 188 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: out tanks and Ammo and things like that, and a 189 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff was coming from Leningrad. This is 190 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: a city of three billion people at the time. And 191 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: remember that little little map you pulled up on your 192 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: phone a couple of minutes ago, when you looked at 193 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Saint Petersburg. What do you see all around Saint Petersburg? 194 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: The sea water. This place mattered because it was huge 195 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: for getting supplies in and getting supplies out. These ports 196 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: cities are always critical to a nation because they help 197 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: resupply a nation, they help fund a nation. If Hitler 198 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: is able to go up there and take Leningrad, well, 199 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: that's going to be quite a win. Now. I know 200 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: what you're possibly thinking, if you've been listen listening to 201 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: this show for a while, or you're just that kind 202 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: of thinker, you're looking to the north and thinking, well, 203 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: what's Finland doing. Finland's right up there to the north. 204 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: It's funny, you should bring that up. They fought something. 205 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I'll do a show on it again sometime. I've done 206 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: one before. It was a long time ago. They fought 207 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: something earlier called the Winter War. The Soviet Union fought 208 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: that war with Finland, and it wasn't some prolonged war, however. 209 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: It was one of those wars Finland or use as 210 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: a feather in their cap until the end of time. 211 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: And they should because because here comes this gigantic Soviet 212 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: juggernaut stomping into your country and they should crush you. 213 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: And they did end up winning, obviously, but the Finns 214 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: made them pay for it, and I mean made them 215 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: pay for it big time. We're talking everything you can imagine, 216 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: guys in cross country skis doing ambush ambushes, night ambushes. 217 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: It was it was a cool, it's a really cool 218 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: little conflict. But the Soviet Union ends up winning and 219 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: part of the Soviet Union Union winning that war was 220 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union wanted a bunch of Finnish territory up there, 221 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: and they took it. And then they told Finland at 222 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: the time, guess what, you're also on our side. Now 223 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna do what the things we tell you to 224 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: do whenever we tell you to do him you hear me. 225 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: Finland never a big fan of the Soviets. Oh gosh, okay, 226 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: that's fine, Well, along come the Nazis. The Nazis. I'm 227 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: not going to go into all this. Give Finland a 228 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: little wink wink, nudge, nudge. Hey, I bet you'd like 229 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: back that territory the Soviets took from you, right man, 230 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: that Winter War thing that was unjust. You'd never see 231 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: us pulling anything like that. I mean not. You don't 232 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: have any many Jews, do you. Okay you don't. Yeah, 233 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: you'd never see us pull that with you. Why don't 234 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: you join with us, Finland does? It's one of those 235 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: parts of World War two not many people talk about. 236 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: Everybody who knows about Japan and Italy and the actions 237 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: of evil Finland joined with the Nazis kind of we'll 238 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: get to that in a moment. Now, the people of Leningrad, No, 239 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: they know the Nazis are coming. They're not stupid, and 240 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: they do one of the most fascinating that It would 241 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: be fascinating to see a big city pull this off 242 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: today again, big cities three million people. They get half 243 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: a million people, shovels and everything else, and they dig 244 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: in fortifications of the city. They're building a triple line 245 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: of defenses with tank ditches, tank traps. They're building peel boxes. 246 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: You know those big concrete things you saw saving Private Ryan, 247 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the concrete things that the machine guns are in when 248 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: the Allies are trying to store the beats. That's a pillbox. 249 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: They're making pillboxes. It would have been fascinating to see it. Supposedly, 250 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and I saw some video interviews with people who were there. 251 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: Supposedly it was very inspiring. Half a million people, the 252 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Nazis are coming, let's dig in, let's rock and roll. Well, 253 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: the Nazis get there. The Nazis get there and they 254 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: realize this city is extremely dug in, this city is defended. 255 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: We've got an issue here. What are we going to do? 256 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: And they get more bad news. The Nazis do they 257 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: find out somebody by the name of Georgi Zukov has 258 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: arrived in Leningrad, and he's gonna go ahead and organize 259 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: the defenses for a while. Remember this is the greatest 260 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: general of the twentieth century. And you get word that 261 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: he just took over the opposing army. Had to be 262 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: a rough moment. And of course Zukov, because he's freaking Zukov, 263 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: does not just sit back in the city. He doesn't 264 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: sit back behind the line. He is constantly doing, constantly 265 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: doing pay attention here, counter offensives because he knows, I 266 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: don't care if it's a single line, double line, triple line, 267 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: ten thousand tank ditches, if you just sit back behind 268 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: it with your head down, you're going to lose. So 269 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: he's peppering these Nazis, stepping out behind the line, killing 270 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: them and losing guys himself, but then going back in 271 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: constantly keeping the Nazis off guard. They're on the defensive 272 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: as much as they're on the offensive. Then Hitler in 273 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: one of the all time bonehead moves. I understand why 274 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: he did it, but gosh, how stupid. This was Army 275 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: Group North. Remember an Army group Center, You remember class 276 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: what was Army Group Center doing Army Group Center was 277 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: going after Moscow. Hitler wanted Moscow. He wanted Moscow so 278 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: bad he could taste it. And why wouldn't he? Of 279 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: course you would want Moscow. And because Zukov also organized 280 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the defensive Moscow. As we said the other day, Hitler 281 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: was having a very difficult time taking Moscow. So he 282 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: instead takes all of his armored parts of Army Group North, 283 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: all those beautiful tanks, and he pulls them away and 284 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: takes them down south to go attack Moscow with Army 285 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: Group Center. Well, what you've just done to Army Group 286 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: North is you've really prevented any ability for them to 287 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: actually invade a city the size of Leningrad and take 288 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: it in any kind of a meaningful manner. Now, I 289 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: don't want a nerd out on the details here, but 290 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: allow me to explain something to you. We've talked a 291 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: lot this week about urban combat, and I swear I'm 292 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: not trying to gin up, So I'm not trying to 293 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: gin something up. It just worked out that that's what 294 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: we've talked about here. Okay. 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They can't break out, But the Nazis, 319 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: now that Hitler took away the armor, can't break in them. 320 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: Let me explain that when you're entering a city, city 321 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: streets and whatnot, you cannot just sit there in a tank, 322 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: even a big tough American Abrams tank or something, or 323 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: a tank of the like. The truth is, people are 324 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: too capable out there. Yes, even scumbag idiot terrorists. People 325 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: are too capable now of finding an explosive that can 326 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: incinerate your guys, or finding an explosive that's big enough 327 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: to knock the tracks off your tank. All you have 328 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: to do is make an immobile or setting a trap 329 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: in the streets. So you see, your tank is too 330 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: vulnerable by itself. You like to think of a tank 331 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: as some invulnerable thing with big guns on. It is not. 332 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: It is not, and now, don't be wrong. You can, 333 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: but it's dangerous. You can't really just patrol up and 334 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: down the city streets on foot. And I've done patrol 335 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: in Baghdad at night on foot and let me tell 336 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: you what. It's a little harrowing because you find yourself 337 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 1: in situations where you need a bigger gun than you 338 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: can carry on your back, or you find yourself in 339 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: situations where you need cover, or you find yourself in 340 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: situations where you need an AMMO recept Why you can 341 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: only carry so much ammunition. I know you don't see 342 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: this in the movies, but even look, even as a 343 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 1: six foot eight marine brother, I can only carry so 344 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: much ammo. Ammo's heavy, really heavy. At some point my 345 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: knees just break. You need resupply. Having armor there helps 346 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: that you can strap AMMO boxes to it. You can 347 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: strap water to it. Not sexy. Guess what. Go without 348 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: it for a day and see how you're doing. So 349 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: what you want to do is combine the two. When 350 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: you're entering us, you just have to. You have to 351 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: combine the two. You have to when we in fact, 352 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: when we first entered Baghdad, they took my company and 353 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: we were assigned to first tanks. I was in an 354 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: infantry company. They assigned us to tank. They just flat 355 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: out attached the whole company and you're going in with them. 356 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: And right when we got in there, boom boo boop. 357 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Taken fire from some big building. Uh yeah, we'll return fire. 358 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Can we get the tanks up here? Tanks open up 359 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: and that building is no longer there. See that's how 360 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: it works, you take away the tanks. Well, I can't 361 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: invade Leningrad. Now I have to starve them out. And 362 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: this is the ultimate situation of nobody can move. The 363 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: Nazis do not possess the strength to invade the people 364 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: of Leningrad cannot get out only well, weather seems to 365 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: be changing. The weather seems to be changing. I mentioned 366 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: the Fins earlier. Should I should clarify the Fins. The 367 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Fins were expected by Germany to finish coming from the north. 368 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of a dirty move, but a great move. 369 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: The Finns were expected, I need you to keep coming 370 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: from the north and come down and surround, you know, 371 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: letting grad on the other side. And the Finns were like, 372 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'll I'll get right on that. And then 373 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: the Finns promptly just took back all the territory that 374 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: was previously theirs from the Soviets and then didn't move anymore. 375 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, we said we were coming about 376 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: that though, yeah, we're not. It turns out we just 377 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: wanted what was ours back. So it's it's not fair 378 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: to paint the Finns as some horrible Nazi collaborators in 379 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: the war and kind of did what they had to 380 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: do type thing. So we're a stalemate and the winter 381 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: is starting to get cold, and there's another part of that, 382 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Finns refusing to advance. Keep this in mind, Germany's Germany, 383 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: and Germany's powerful at this time. But if you're Finland, 384 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: remember that map you pulled up, You're welcome to pull 385 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: it up again. Go ahead and look at Finland and 386 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: then look at Russia. If you're Finland, can you really 387 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: afford to make a horrible enemy of the Soviet Union? 388 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: They were not stupid. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and 389 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: not lay siege to one of their most important cities 390 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: because if this doesn't work out, we are screwed big time. Well, 391 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: if you're the Germans, you can't attack them, they can't 392 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: attack you. What can you do. You can do a 393 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: couple things. You can make their life as miserable as 394 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: humanly possible by not letting supplies in. And remember these 395 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: are Nazis. They don't really obey the same rules that 396 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: many people do. Well, why don't Why don't we just 397 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: start bombing them. It's funny to wrap your mind around 398 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: when you put yourself in the in the shoes of 399 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: people who don't really have morals. When they don't have, 400 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: they just flat out sadists You and I. Even if you, 401 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: even if you were fighting a war with somebody, if 402 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: you're a commanding general and you have this big army 403 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: and artillery and all these things outside of a city, 404 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: even if you ordered to do so and followed your orders, 405 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: think what it would feel like opening up with artillery, 406 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: dropping artillery shells on a city of three million people. 407 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: They were down to about two and a half million 408 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: by this point because half man had escaped. But think 409 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: would it we'd be like having that order? You know 410 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: those artillery shells, Those are blowing up kids, man, women. Well, 411 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: if you're a Nazi, you don't you don't really have 412 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: that problem, doesn't You don't care? And they start bombing 413 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: and shelling this place, both with artillery and air, and 414 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: there are a couple of different kinds of rounds. You remember, 415 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: every every every explosion, every bomb, every artillery shell was 416 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: not the same. I know they make it out to 417 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: be the same in movies, but I was. I was 418 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: a mortarman in the Marine Corps. I was in the infantry, 419 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: and we were I did mortars. Even mortars had several 420 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: different kinds of rounds. You had flare rounds. You could 421 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: set at your round and go off as soon as 422 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: it hit the ground. You could adjust your round and 423 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't go off until it had buried itself a 424 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: little ways. We had white phosphorus rounds, we had red 425 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: phosphorus rounds. There were all kinds of different rounds. Same thing. 426 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: Back then. They had high explosive rounds and they had 427 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: incendiary rounds and both do plenty of damage. They loved 428 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: dropping incendiary rounds on cities because you get so much 429 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: extra damage from it. If you can manage to get 430 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: a fire going. Think how difficult it is to have 431 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: a city under siege, people starving, supplies dwindling, and now 432 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: you have a city block on fire and you have 433 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: to put it out. Not even could you care about 434 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: the city block, but because it will burn this whole 435 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: place down if we don't put this out. And the 436 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: Germans were not stupid, remember spies or a big part 437 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: of everything. The Germans knew where the food depots were 438 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: in Leningrad and they're bombing the food. Oh Stalin had 439 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to his credit, I made fun of him at the beginning, 440 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: and look, you can't possibly make fun of histories. Possibly 441 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: biggest monster ever. I made fun of him at the beginning. 442 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: But he was smart enough to do this. He broke 443 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: down the military factories in places like Leningrad and essentially 444 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: put them on trains. The whole factory. Really, I'm not 445 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: the building, but all the guts of factories. He broke 446 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: them all down and put them on trains to Siberia 447 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: and rebuilt the Soviet war machine so he could build 448 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: everything there because he knew the Nazis were going to 449 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: take some things in these It's actually really I know, 450 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: it's cool because it is really fascinating. It's very fascinating. 451 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: So you're not as much worried about that if you're 452 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: the Nazis, although you're trying for that stuff, but you're 453 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: going after the food. And as of this, at this 454 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: point in time, the foods situation had been okay. 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The food rating 473 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: begins and I often wonder about this, and it's easy 474 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: to make fun of the Soviets as being a bunch 475 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: of uncaring, unfeeling monsters. And obviously many of the party 476 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: bosses were, but let's be honest, many of these people 477 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: were human. What does that feel like when you're the 478 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: city official, mayor whichever guy made the call, when you 479 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: have to start rationing out the bread, rasheting out the sugar. 480 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: But they see where this is going, They see how 481 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: this is going. They see there's no Soviet army that 482 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: can get to them. Zookoff isn't even there anymore, not 483 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: because he's not because he doesn't want to be. Remember, 484 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: they're fighting the entire Nazi army all across the Soviet Union. 485 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: If the Nazis are at a point where they can't 486 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: invade Leningrad, you have to take your superstar and you 487 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: have to send him elsewhere, and you have to start rationing. 488 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: And they start cutting people's ration of bread and sugar, 489 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: and then they cut it again, and then they cut 490 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: it again, and then you're having to make decisions. Tell me, 491 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: this wouldn't be horrible. You're having to make decisions on 492 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: who gets how much of what. Remember everybody doesn't get 493 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: the same amount. Oh no, no, no no no. You have 494 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: to make decisions that are awful, but makes sense. Well, 495 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: you see this worker here, he actually is making some 496 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: ammunition for us. Oh, this guy, he's the one making 497 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: some of the food. He's working eight, nine, ten hours 498 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: a day. He's got to have more food than you. 499 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: You see, you're you're old, then you're you're kind of sick, 500 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: and we care about You're not going to starve you 501 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: to death. But but you can't have as much. And 502 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: what do you do morally? There? Doesn't that make you 503 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: feel gross? What I just said? Doesn't it talk about 504 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: the burden of command? You want to look at some 505 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: kid who can't work yet in the eye and be like, 506 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: hey man, sorry about your food ration, but you're simply 507 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: not worth as much as the full grown man who's 508 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: in the factory. Easy to say on paper, much different 509 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: when you're looking in their eyes, isn't it. And it's 510 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: not just the bread and sugar they were given like 511 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: a slice of bread and then a little lump of sugar. 512 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: It's not just that that starts to get rationed. They 513 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: start to ration off the electricity. Now I understand I 514 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: have a bunch of listeners in California who will this 515 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: will make more sense to you. But most of us, 516 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: except for maybe small periods of time, whether or something 517 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: like that. You've never had to rap electricity in your life. 518 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: And I talk often about the blessings of being born 519 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: in America, how blessed we are, and how blessed we 520 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: don't realize it. I often use the glass of water 521 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: because it is amazing. I'm looking at one. I have 522 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: one in my hand. I just reached over and grabbed it. 523 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: Chris has one, two glass of water. It is approximately 524 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: twenty feet away from us. There is not only a sink, 525 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: there's a water machine with ice. I could sit and 526 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: literally drink myself to death on water today if I 527 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: wanted to, I could drink water. Untwo I threw up. 528 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: I have all the water I wanted. I could right 529 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: now go down and fill up buckets and just start 530 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: dumping it on my head and then guslin whatever is left, 531 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: and just water, water, water water. People will die all 532 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: over the world today because they don't have access to 533 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: one glass of what I'm holding in my hand. You 534 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: are blessed to be here, believe me. And we do 535 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: the same thing with electricity. We do the exact same 536 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: thing with electricity. I walk over to the lights, I 537 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: turn on the switch the lights come on every single time. 538 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Imagine having a ration that you get an hour a day, 539 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: Now an hour a day. Whatever you need are you 540 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: doing with an hour a day of electricity and nothing else? 541 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: Probably be time to go back in those books, right, 542 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: Beer gets cut off. You see, they made beer. Societies 543 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: love their alcohol, always have. Soviets are obviously no different. 544 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: In contrary to popular belief, they don't only drink vodka 545 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: by the gallon up there. All they did do drink 546 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: a lot of vodka up there. The Soviets love beer 547 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: because who does not love beer? Yeah, Chris told me 548 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: they loved They love vodka because it's so cheap to make. 549 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: It takes one week to make it, so you can 550 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: make you just churn out bottles of vadka. Anyway, we're 551 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: not going into that right now. They start cutting off 552 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: the beer manufacturers because you need the supplies you're making 553 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: beer with to actually make food for people. And this 554 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: is this look, this affects life too when people are 555 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: used to drinking beer. So now you're adding the beer 556 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: ingredients to the bread and you're running out of that too. 557 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: And now, as you've seen before, you're starting to add 558 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: sawdust to bread so people can get food. How are 559 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: you going to resupply You have two and a half 560 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: million people in this city. That lake, remember the lake, 561 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: the lake right there to the east, You remember we 562 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: talked about it. The lake starts to freeze because it 563 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: starts to get really cold, which at first becomes a 564 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: huge problem because they were boating in supplies across the lake. 565 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: Now not enough supplies, because you need a lot for 566 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: two and a half people, But supplies, oh, colds common 567 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: Hang on, wake up and text, Text and eat, Text 568 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: and catch the bus, Text and miss your stop. Wait 569 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: wait wait, wait wait wait, Text and be late to work. 570 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: Sorry ly, Text and work, Text and pretend to work, 571 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Text and at surprised when someone calls you out for 572 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: not working. Text and meet up with a friend you 573 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: haven't seen in forever. Hi, Text and complain that they're 574 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: on their phone the whole time. Text and listen to 575 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: them complain that you're on your phone the whole time. 576 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: Text and whatever. But when you get behind the wheel, 577 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: give your phone to a passenger, put it in the 578 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: glove box. Just don't text and drive because it stop. 579 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Texts stoprex dot org a public service announcement brought to 580 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the 581 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: ad Council. Those boats are starting to run into some 582 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: cold water across the lake, and then they'll start running 583 00:41:55,160 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: into ice across the lake. That's hampering things, except that 584 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: it gets colder and colder and colder, and you're having 585 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: the benefit of an extra cold, So be a winner. 586 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying, How could extra cold be 587 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: any good? The ice chunks are getting bad. No, no, no, 588 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: no no, The ice chunks aren't getting bad. The ice 589 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: chunks are becoming one gigantic lake of ice. And the 590 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: Soviets are people who know how to adapt to the cold. 591 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: You see, the lake gets icy. The Soviets build an 592 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: ice road across the lake. Two truck supplies in and out. 593 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: One of the most fascinating things. Highly recommend you look 594 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: it up. They called it the Road of Life across 595 00:42:47,239 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: the Lake, but there were some problems thinging. Jesse Kelly 596 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: returns next. This is the Jesse Kelly Show. One has 597 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: to appreciate the ingenuity of just making an ice road 598 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: across the lake. And I just just so you don't 599 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: oversimplify it in your mind. There are places like you'll 600 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: see this in northern places like minnieapp like Minnesota and 601 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: things like that, where it's so cold, the ice is 602 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: so thick across the lake that everybody drives on the ice, 603 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: so you see ice fishing. Ice fishing, they do this. 604 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: They'll set up like a cabin in the lake for 605 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: those unfamiliar with it. They'll they'll heat these cabins. I'm 606 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: not making that up. They'll heat these cabins, and you 607 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: drill a hole, deep, deep into the ice to get 608 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: down to the water. The ice is so thick and 609 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: strong you just don't have to worry about it. However, 610 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: it takes a great deal of knowledge and experience to 611 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: know which lakes you can do that on, which parts 612 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: of the lake you can do that on. And understand 613 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: this for you Southerners, and I I understand we have a 614 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: huge Southern following. If you fall through the ice into 615 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: the water, you're not cold, you're dead. There's an excellent 616 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: chance you are dead. If there's any flow at all, 617 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: and oftentimes there's some kind of current going on, you 618 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: will not be able to find the hole where you 619 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: went into the water. Even if you come out of 620 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: the water immediately right underneath the hole and find the hole, 621 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: there's an excellent chance you can't get out of the hole. 622 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to get out of the hole when 623 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: you have hypothermia pretty much instantly, and you're losing the 624 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: ability to use your muscles properly, and you're climbing up 625 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: on the ice. Also, I keep using the word hole, 626 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: Perhaps I should rephrase. If you're in a situation where 627 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: you break through the ice in a vehicle or just 628 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: as a person, you don't generally break off a nice, 629 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: neat little edge with a good firm handhold, like your 630 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: neighbor's swimming pool. I have no problem getting out of 631 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: the neighbor's swimming pool. You've not only broken it off, 632 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: you've broken it off in a weaker place where even 633 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: if you manage to get ahold of the edge as 634 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: you pull yourself up, the edge will break off. It 635 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 1: doesn't work like it does in the movies. If you 636 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: go in to an icy lake, break into an icy lake, 637 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: you are in deep, deep trouble, and I mean very 638 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: deep trouble. And all that was to say, even if 639 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,319 Speaker 1: you happen to get out right away. Let's say a 640 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: miracle happens and you go through the ice in the 641 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: whole winds up being right there. When you come up 642 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: and you have a body, because normally you need a 643 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 1: body that helps you get right out of the water. 644 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: Don't think for one second you're out of the woods. Jack. 645 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 1: You have to get those icy clothes off you right 646 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: now because they're killing you. On top of that, you 647 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: have to get a fire started or get in a 648 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: very warm environment right now because your body temperature has 649 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 1: dropped so low you now have hypothermia and your heart 650 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 1: is going to stop. I grew up in Montana. I 651 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: know about this is a big, big deal. It's a 652 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: death sentence you fall in something like that. Well, they 653 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: make this road of life, and of course, because you 654 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: can't have any luck at all, as soon as they 655 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 1: get it built, it warms back up again and they lose. 656 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: Forty trucks just fall right through the ice bots. You know, 657 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: to their credit, it gets cold again and the ice 658 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: freezes back up and they're still churning up. Now. The 659 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: Nazis are not stupid, so they're constantly making life very difficult. 660 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: There are still skeletons at the bottom of that lake 661 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: because the Nazis are dropping bombs on the lake, weakening 662 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: that ice, making it so trucks will fall through. And 663 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: now your citizens are so hungry, so hungry. Now they're 664 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: starting to die. And the thing about these sieges when 665 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: citizens start start to die is they start to die slow. 666 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: But then it happens so fast. And it's the weak 667 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: people or the people who've been starving themselves who go first, 668 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: which makes it even harder. You know, it's your elderly people. 669 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: They don't have the fat build ups, they don't have 670 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: the energy anymore. I feel like watching Grandma's starve to death. 671 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's the people, the selfless people, often parents 672 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: or a husband or a wife or a mother, they 673 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: go first to why because you're giving your food ration 674 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: to your kids so they can live. Understandable, honorable, it's 675 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: what you should do. But shoot, I saw an interview 676 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: with a guy. He had to be dang near eighty 677 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: years old, if not eighty plus, and he was a 678 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,960 Speaker 1: kid in Leningrad and his father died, and at eighty 679 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: some years old, this dude got choked up and started 680 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 1: crying talking about watching his father starved to death. And 681 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: it happens fast, and this is how fast it happens. 682 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: In November of nineteen forty one, ten thousand people in 683 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 1: Leningrad died. You know how many died the next month, 684 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: fifty thousand. You know how many died a month and 685 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 1: the months after that, over one hundred thousand a month. 686 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: And how rationing works when you're when you're rationing off food. 687 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: You know how rationing works is you generally, if they can, 688 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: if it's organized enough, you get a ration card. You're 689 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: this person, So here's your ration card, and you show 690 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: up at the food place and you show them your 691 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 1: ration card and they give you as much food as 692 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: you're allotted on your ration card. Well, now you're getting 693 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: to the point where people are trying to survive, so 694 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 1: relatives will die. Relatives will die, and you won't take 695 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 1: them outside and bury them because then people find out 696 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 1: they're dead. Instead, you leave them inside the home so 697 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: you can take their ration card and use it so 698 00:50:53,800 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the family can live. They're chucking out 699 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: some corpses, and the Soviets are having to guard the 700 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: corpses because people are starting to track down the corpses 701 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: and eat them Donner party all over again. The Soviets 702 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: are trying to avoid this. They view this as some 703 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: kind of horrible immorality. They start charging people with crimes. 704 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: Stop eating other people. Time to cover your ears, kids, 705 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: This is when it's going to get ugly. For just 706 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: a second, I won't dwell on it. There are stories 707 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: of parents killing one of their children so the other 708 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: children can eat. There are stories of husbands killing wives, 709 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: wives killing husbands, children killing their parents so other people 710 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: can eat. Oftentimes willingly, yes, kill me. I want you 711 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 1: to survive. What's the toughest day you ever had in 712 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: your life? Do you remember that story in the beginning 713 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: about kids not being allowed outside go In any situation 714 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: like this, a black market will become, you know, just 715 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: the thing, a very powerful thing. And this is the 716 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: point in the story where kids were not allowed outside 717 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: alone to play, to pray, because people would snatch them 718 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: up and kill them and eat them. You're at the 719 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: point where people were becoming monsters. You starve somebody long enough, 720 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: people become monsters. You hear stories like this from the 721 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: old Soviet gulags, ironically, in the same country where the 722 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: conditions were so bad. The starvation was so bad, the cold, 723 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: everything was so bad. It didn't make people better, It 724 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: didn't bring people together, It turned them into monsters hang 725 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: on The Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at 726 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:53,959 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show dot Com. Disease comes to something we've 727 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: talked about before, something we'll talk about often because it 728 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: comes into place so often when it comes to sieges. 729 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: Another thing we don't take into account here in America. 730 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,439 Speaker 1: And I understand we are not exactly disease free here, 731 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: and often many of our diseases are because we're too 732 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: fat and lazy and eat too many processed foods. I 733 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: get all that, and believe me, guilty is charged, all right, 734 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: had a lovely Jack in the Box dinner last night. 735 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: Guilty as charged. But disease really really comes when you 736 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: don't have the nutrition, When your body doesn't have the 737 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: fuel it needs to fight things off, and disease begin 738 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: to come. But there's good news. The good news is 739 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: remember the other parts of the war, the other three 740 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: army groups, they ain't doing so hot. And now we're 741 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:56,919 Speaker 1: starting to see Soviet reinforcements heading towards Lenning Grad. We're 742 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: starting to see Stalin realizes he's going to be able 743 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:07,960 Speaker 1: to save the place. They start churning more and more supplies. 744 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,720 Speaker 1: In fact, the Ice Road actually melts because the season 745 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: just ends in the weather gets better, but now the 746 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 1: boats are churning across and all this was on top 747 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: of the fact the Nazis just weren't quite ready for winters, 748 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 1: so they ended up being hurt really baddy in the winter. Anyway, 749 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: now they're still bombing and they're still shelling. The Soviets 750 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: get there, but they don't have a big enough group. 751 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: It's one of these anticlimactic things. I actually think this 752 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 1: is the part of the story that maybe the most heartbreaking. 753 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: The Soviets get there, you know, Soviet troops get there 754 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,280 Speaker 1: to get in and they're like, all right, it's counterattack time. 755 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: We got these Nazis on their heels. They had a 756 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: rough winter, it's time to go get them. And they 757 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 1: do this huge counterattack and they just get their butts whipped. 758 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,359 Speaker 1: This army group North was very well equipped, very well lead. 759 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: They were very capable, very very capable German army. So 760 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,240 Speaker 1: you didn't break out. But now you've again, you've weakened 761 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: them so much. Now the end, Now the end is coming, 762 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: and now Lenning Grad is getting up and running again. 763 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: They're opening the factories back up, bringing the machinery back 764 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 1: in now Lenning grads churning out tanks. Soon, very soon, 765 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 1: the Soviet army gets there and the Nazi army has 766 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: to pick up and cut and run back west along 767 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: with the rest of the Germans. And this is the 768 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: part I think is so so cool, because you've just 769 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: got to picture it in your head. They didn't have 770 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,399 Speaker 1: really fireworks and such, and they didn't have anything. They 771 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 1: still didn't have, you know, large quantities of food, although 772 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: they were shipping over meats and things like that. The 773 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: people were finally getting nutrition again. But the day the 774 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: siege was lifted over nine hundred days, the day the 775 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: siege was lifted, the army, the Soviet army fired off 776 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: all kinds of flares and things over the city and 777 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: all the citizens finally came out of their homes and 778 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 1: celebrated and cheered and sang and danced. Nine hundred days, 779 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: you know how many civilians died in Leningrad, eight hundred 780 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: thousand of them, eight hundred thousand dead civilians. You see, 781 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: I understand the level of angst out there right now, 782 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: and it's getting worse. It's not necessarily just about the election. 783 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: I caught myself getting involved in it last night too. 784 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm looking at the people Biden's going 785 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: to put around him. Biden's already you know, this guy's 786 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: gonna be my chief of staff, this guy's gonna be 787 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,959 Speaker 1: my coronavirus advisor, this guy's gonna be this, this guy's 788 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,439 Speaker 1: gonna be that. And it's easy to forget when you're 789 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: separated from it, how crappy it is to have a 790 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: Democrat president, especially these days, considering how radically different they 791 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: are in the absolute nutballs they put around him. And 792 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: I've just had a moment last night. It was a 793 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: bad moment. Someone had screwed up my order, and you 794 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 1: know how much that screws up my entire evening. We'll 795 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: go into that in a second. Ended up in a 796 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: car wreck last night. I'll go into all this in 797 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: just a second. We'll get to that in a second. 798 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: But I had this moment. You know, I don't generally 799 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: get down in the dumps, and it's not as if 800 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 1: I was over there crying or something. I'm not a girl, 801 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: but I had this moment where I was just, man, 802 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: this sucks, This really sucks, and you forget how bad 803 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: it sucks. But we're still blessed, aren't we? Aren't we 804 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 1: still so blessed? It's so easy, no matter what your 805 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: lot in life is. And I have run the gamut 806 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: in my life, so let me tell you it's the 807 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 1: same no matter what, No matter what your lot in 808 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: life is, poor, can't pay the bills, got a ton 809 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: of cash on a yacht somewhere. It's easy to look 810 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: around and see nothing but the problems. But everything in 811 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: life is a matter of perspective. Look around at the 812 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: blessings now. And then I told Chris when I walked 813 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: in to day, I have this insane day, just insanely 814 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,479 Speaker 1: busy day. I had a radio interview before I came 815 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: on the show, and now I have my three hour 816 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 1: radio show. And then immediately when I'm done with the 817 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: radio show, I have to run into my TV studio 818 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and do a twenty minute TV interview. And as soon 819 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: as that TV interview was over, a different TV station 820 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: was to interview me, and that's going to be twenty 821 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: minutes long, and then I have to record my TV show, 822 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and then immediately after the TV show, do another TV 823 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: interview with a totally different station. And as soon as 824 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: that TV interview is done, I have to do a 825 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: final radio hit on the Big KABC in Los Angeles. 826 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I didn't make any part of that up. That's my 827 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: day today. And I get in and I tell Chris, I, 828 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm so busy today. And then I'm thinking 829 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: about it as soon as I got don't tell them, 830 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, dude, you talk on the radio and 831 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: into a camera for a living, don't complain about your life. 832 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: You get paid to screw off and have fun with 833 01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: people you love. Life's good and I still have my 834 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 1: cup of water. Life is good. So you know what, 835 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna set aside this Biden coronavirus advisor right now. 836 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to set aside the post office stuff, the 837 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: alcohol sales, to everything else, and I will get to them. 838 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I will get to them. But it's time. We're gonna 839 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell the tale of my evening last night. 840 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I frustrated evening last night. All these problems are really 841 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: really minor believing, but here was my evening. I was 842 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: extremely busy yesterday too, so I didn't get Sometimes this happens, 843 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to eat. I woke up 844 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: yesterday morning. I'm mowed a breakfast burrito on the way 845 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: to work. But after that I did not have a 846 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: chance to eat. And finally it's five o'clock in the evening, 847 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: four or five o'clock in the evening, I finally get 848 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: done doing TV and everything else, and I'm absolutely starving. 849 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: And we've had this talk before, but everybody needs to 850 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: know this about me. I'm already a bad person no 851 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: matter what. When i haven't eaten, I'm the Antichrist. There's 852 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't hypoglycemic or hyperglycemic. I've never been diagnosed like that, 853 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is, you know the term angry. I just 854 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,720 Speaker 1: turned into just an angry, mean person. And I can 855 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 1: feel it, you know. I can feel it when I'm 856 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: interacting with other people and I'm snapping at somebody who 857 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve it. I know I'm being a jerk, but 858 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: that only makes me angrier. So when I need to eat, 859 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I need to eat. Hang on, I'll tell it after 860 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: the story, after the guest Newton Group transfer. They are 861 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: here to help you if you're stuck in a timeshare. 862 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: These stories from people who have these time shares and 863 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: can't get out of them, they're shocking. 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