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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast. This is how we do it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room failed with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthalt. What's up boys? All right? The boss is

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Speaker 1: back to have the whole gang back together, back from Hawaii. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any Brady Bunch like curses going on or anything that

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Speaker 1: would be you know something the fun to report back

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Speaker 1: on Brady Bunch curses? What does that mean? Oh? Mark?

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Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, it's a very special two part episode

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Speaker 1: of The Brady Bunch where they the two of the

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Speaker 1: children on earth some sort of medallion that was buried

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Speaker 1: I find I left for a week. But the nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixties references remain usually not Dan, every time the medallion

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Speaker 1: makes an appearance in that show, doesn't Isn't there some

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Speaker 1: kind of like do do do do doo? Sounds about?

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Speaker 1: Bretty Bunch is also nineteen seventies? Yea, um, But welcome back.

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Speaker 1: We did miss you. We had both, you know, we

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Speaker 1: had Lindsay in last week, so that was nice. She

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Speaker 1: she did a nice job filling in for you. But

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Speaker 1: listen there's no substitute for the actual boss. Let's face it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you guys did a great job. Um. I listened to

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Speaker 1: every podcast the minute it came out. Thought Mark especially

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Speaker 1: was fantastic. I hope TD rewarded him for it. That

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Speaker 1: Mark wasn't here last week, that's good. That was a test.

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Speaker 1: He was. Mark is here. Mark was there and he's

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Speaker 1: still with us, still alive. We have a very nice

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Speaker 1: nice show today and a lot of stuff to get to. Um,

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Speaker 1: as we inch closer and closer, I'm surprised he didn't

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Speaker 1: lead off with some like July four shenanigans that you

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Speaker 1: guys were all doing that. So we did go. We

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Speaker 1: went to the Dodger game on Friday. I was just

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Speaker 1: watching kids and you know, sitting by the pool, which

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Speaker 1: was very nice. Well, that would recall, you know, that

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Speaker 1: I had some good fun on Saturday night. Oh that

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Speaker 1: that was a a west Fest. Yeah, we had another Westlemania. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a good time. My my life doesn't include

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Speaker 1: So I missed out on that, but I'm sure it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. You had enough fun the

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Speaker 1: night before. Yeah, we went to the Dodgery game. Damnaschek

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Speaker 1: Greg in Hawaii doing his thing. But now he's back

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Speaker 1: and we got a lot to get to. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about. You know, the Making Leap series is now

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Speaker 1: halfway through, more than halfway through, so we felt like

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Speaker 1: this was a good time to to check in Um

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Speaker 1: on the Making the Leap series. Uh, with a segment

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Speaker 1: making the Leap? Well, no, it's look fake it till

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Speaker 1: you Make It Colon making a point to make some

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Speaker 1: involved in making the Leap, he's just openly poking fun

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Speaker 1: at the rest of the group for having torpedo it

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Speaker 1: he sees he sees in his competition for his big

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Speaker 1: fan pain rankings coming out next week. A lot of

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Speaker 1: heat between the two warring factions. I definitely I thought

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. Um. Well, Also, one thing you know we

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do after um fake it till you

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Speaker 1: making the leap. Um. He could say that the whole

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Speaker 1: thing every time. Well, that's the second name, guys. It's

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Speaker 1: a very important list and it's something that deserves respect

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Speaker 1: and um. But before any of that, we're gonna check

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Speaker 1: behind the glass, uh with t D who I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you know I had a nice weekend himself. We're not

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Speaker 1: It was great. Thanks for asking. I'll get to an

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Speaker 1: like the Ladder a couple of seasons. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: out now? It's a great, great show, absolutely right. I

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Speaker 1: it's great, it's awesome. And that was TV reviews with you. Now,

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Speaker 1: I got some, I got how about some good producing.

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Speaker 1: Everybody calmed down, everybody, let's getting better spirits. Okay, I know,

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Speaker 1: terrible Tuesdays as they call them up next hump day?

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Speaker 1: What's after that? You know what I mean? But let's

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Speaker 1: have a nice show TV's this news. Let's do it

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Speaker 1: before that. Oh my god. I mean, because you know,

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Speaker 1: you mention that. USA want to walk up on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations SR job ladies, great stuff. We had a good

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Speaker 1: great champions of the United States. Hey, TD, let's do

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Speaker 1: some news. Let's do it. Yeah, we're talking about sex.

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Speaker 1: talking about that night West. I don't know if there

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Speaker 1: better entertainment for our events? Them? Fireworks which have been

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Speaker 1: About that people watch fireworks on TV? That's ridiculous. It

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Speaker 1: of us have uh of course. Um well, I am

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Speaker 1: not writing any but I'm reading them all. Many of

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Speaker 1: the multiple times. We've unveiled eleven so far, and this

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Speaker 1: will be a good time to I guess go around

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Speaker 1: the horn if you will, and each uh talk about

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Speaker 1: one of the players that's been unveiled so far. And Mark,

431
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Speaker 1: I would like to start with you and Uh, you

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Speaker 1: wrote about a player on the Saints that has some

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Speaker 1: big shoes to fill, Josh Hill tight end the so

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Speaker 1: called air apparent for Jimmy Graham and I. I, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot some of these guys have a

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Speaker 1: lot of tape because there maybe not that young some

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Speaker 1: of the guys we've done. This guy is obviously has

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Speaker 1: limited tape because you know, when you have Jimmy grahamy

439
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Speaker 1: ate up all his snaps except for you know, some

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Speaker 1: red zone work and some preseason stuff. Coming away from

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Speaker 1: what I saw the I I feel like I with

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Speaker 1: The good thing about making the leap is you can

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Speaker 1: learn about guys that you didn't maybe watch last season

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Speaker 1: a whole h I really came away impressed with Josh Hill.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a tale of two two situations here

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Speaker 1: because one, I think physically he can do a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that Sean Payton would want his athletic tight

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Speaker 1: ends to do in that offense, and he showed it

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Speaker 1: in the preseason especially. I think he's he's got excellent

450
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Speaker 1: after the catch ability. Um, he's got like a thirty

451
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Speaker 1: eight inch vertical. I mean, they just like basically Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: So all these scouts that said, we want to go

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Speaker 1: draft someone to take over a young tight end, and

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Speaker 1: he said, we already have the guy. Any anyone you

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Speaker 1: go find me in last year's or this year's draft,

456
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Speaker 1: we already have him. So you know, I think if

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Speaker 1: you look at check out the piece en all the

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Speaker 1: time and put three or four highlights there, that really

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Speaker 1: showed what I liked about him the most. The issue though,

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Speaker 1: is I I think that sometimes with these guys, we

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Speaker 1: get excited about them, you know, for good reason, because

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Speaker 1: of the way they've been talked about, maybe a year

463
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Speaker 1: or two early. And that could be the case here

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Speaker 1: because even after all the spring practices, a couple of

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Speaker 1: the beat writer said Ben Watson did all the work

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Speaker 1: that he was not really and I Ben Watson's a

467
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Speaker 1: completely different type of tight end. But maybe it's not

468
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Speaker 1: going to just duplicate Jimmy old Ben Watson. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: if Bosh is good, and I think he's definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: be playing. I just think that some that the the

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Speaker 1: amount of work he's gonna do and what he's gonna

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Speaker 1: the chances we'll see he's not gonna be out there Blacken.

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Speaker 1: I was initially skeptical of him when Peyton came out

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Speaker 1: after the Jimmy Graham trade because you don't see players

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Speaker 1: of Josh Hills measurables like you mentioned his speed, his

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Speaker 1: jumping ability. You don't see skill position players like that

477
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Speaker 1: fall out of the draft entirely. So why did so

478
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Speaker 1: many teams miss on this guy? But here's a great

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Speaker 1: quote from from Sean Payton in March. This Josh Hill

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Speaker 1: is another player that I love. I love when you

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Speaker 1: look at his runs, jumps, height, weight, speed, you look

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Speaker 1: at his measurables, and he didn't go to the combine,

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Speaker 1: thank god. Uh. One one point I'll make two is

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Speaker 1: it is a little one of them, maybe a trop

485
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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about. But whenever a big name player

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Speaker 1: leaves a team, Uh, there's always that call the coach

487
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Speaker 1: or the offensive coordinator of the position. Coach will come

488
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Speaker 1: out and say, whoever, this unheralded guy in the roster

489
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Speaker 1: is he has all the tools to slide in and

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Speaker 1: be that guy. Now, I'm not nuts not to take

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Speaker 1: a shot at Josh Hill, but this is exactly what.

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Speaker 1: Of course they're gonna say. They think that they found somebody,

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Speaker 1: but it's not that easy to replace Jimmy Graham. And

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Speaker 1: I would be stunned if he has half the production

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Speaker 1: of what Graham did. Graham was a superstar guy when

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Speaker 1: he was healthy. And I think we've already talked about

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Speaker 1: their offense changing too that you know, from where we

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Speaker 1: are at this point, it seems like you have mark Ingram,

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Speaker 1: You went out and got C. J. Spiller, who could

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Speaker 1: you know, could eat up a lot of catches for

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Speaker 1: certain types of players in that offense too, And then

502
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Speaker 1: maybe you don't, you know, the whole thing was built

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Speaker 1: around Jimmy even if it's if it's that type of offense,

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Speaker 1: two tight ends and he's on the field catching passes,

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Speaker 1: he could be their number two receiver. Brandon Cooks, I

506
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Speaker 1: guess is their number one receiver. If I had to

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Speaker 1: get I didn't really have a number one receiver, but

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Speaker 1: I would guess he would lead the team and catches

509
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Speaker 1: for sure. And if that's and I think Hill has

510
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Speaker 1: a chance at least to to beat out Colston and

511
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Speaker 1: be number two, and then we look pretty good. And

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Speaker 1: you know why, uh, you know, we get a lot

513
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Speaker 1: of these making the leaps wrong. I learned one thing,

514
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Speaker 1: uh right, in those fantasy football magazines every year I

515
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Speaker 1: used to edit and write all those And here's a

516
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: little trick. You do a lot better on the bust

517
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Speaker 1: list than you do on the sleeper's list because in general,

518
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Speaker 1: people's expectations for everyone are too high, so you hit

519
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Speaker 1: three quarters of the bus because most people are ultimately disappointing.

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Speaker 1: But I've learned in life there's something something I learned

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Speaker 1: during fantasy. But I'm just saying that if you if

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Speaker 1: you picked optimism, it's tougher to do. It's tough to pick. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the world, that's it's outside of the

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Speaker 1: podcast studio. There's what I learned during my road to

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Speaker 1: World days May June and July, or for for potential

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Speaker 1: October and November. For production. You hear all these young

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Speaker 1: players talked up throughout May, June and July, but if November,

528
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Speaker 1: they don't know where they're going. On the football fielder,

529
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Speaker 1: if the quarterback doesn't trust him. They're not gonna play

530
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: Darius Green got us last year. And when you talk

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Speaker 1: about your road or world history and your fantasy history,

532
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Speaker 1: I must remind everyone we're blowing it out. Uh. Next month,

533
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Fantasy Week for the Around the NFL

534
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Speaker 1: podcast with to the to the Great Minds and Fantasy

535
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling, Marks here, and I I will host, uh,

536
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Speaker 1: but will be just you know, well, not every show

537
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Speaker 1: will be completely about fantasy, but we will get into

538
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Speaker 1: the fantasy and really give something, give some hot takes them.

539
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Speaker 1: It's my favorite part of the year because of the

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Speaker 1: endless disrespect from Dan hands is towards one four of

541
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Speaker 1: this podcast, I think your wife's team, which you drafted

542
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: basically lay waste to fire league. Absolutely, that's true, but

543
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: Dan overlooks things like facts in recent history. Hey, final

544
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Speaker 1: thoughts on that's not true? Maybe a little? Um you

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Speaker 1: Mark wrote that you believe that Josh Hill could have

546
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Speaker 1: a zach Ertz typeline what Earth's did in Philly last year. So, um,

547
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Speaker 1: fifty eight catches, seven two yards and five plus touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I think the Saints would sign off for that right

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Speaker 1: in a second. Yeah, I mean, I listen, this is

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Speaker 1: the part of the exercise that I find sometimes a

551
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Speaker 1: little bit insane, because you know, I went back and

552
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Speaker 1: looked what we did last year and picking numbers these guys, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking it back. It's just that I I don't

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Speaker 1: think you have there's any there's no way to know

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Speaker 1: either of my guys. M all right, well I did,

556
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Speaker 1: but I think there's just I'm saying out front, there's

557
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Speaker 1: no way to know with a guy. You wouldn't shock

558
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Speaker 1: me if they continue to use the tight end the

559
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Speaker 1: way they have in the past. He's the guy to

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Speaker 1: fit the bill. All right, Mark, let's keep talking a

561
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Speaker 1: little Sessler piece you wrote, but actually West is going

562
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Speaker 1: to talk about that's a transition that's called that rocky

563
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: transition that you'll only find it on Fake It till

564
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Speaker 1: you make it. Making a point to make some observations

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Speaker 1: about making the leap number twelve on the list Davante Adams.

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Speaker 1: Mark wrote a stellar piece, comprehensive and always about the

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Speaker 1: Packers wide receiver. But West is gonna talk about him.

568
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Speaker 1: Because when we budget out the podcast before every show,

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Speaker 1: we've been trying to get to this. West has some

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Speaker 1: hot takes about Davante Adams and now the time has

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Speaker 1: come Christopher to share them with us. Well, I watched

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Speaker 1: him for our series a couple of months back when

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Speaker 1: we did a redrafting the two thousand and four class,

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Speaker 1: and Davante Adams was a guy that I liked a

575
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Speaker 1: lot more after I did that project because on film,

576
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Speaker 1: he's not a guy who's gonna blow you away with

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Speaker 1: any physical attributes. Uh, he's got great leaping ability. That

578
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: might be the most obvious thing to see because there's

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Speaker 1: that video circling around with him dunking. I think it's

580
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Speaker 1: through his legs and dunking it. But great athlete, but

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Speaker 1: he's not a deep threat. He's not gonna jump off

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Speaker 1: the screen. He wins with we're out running in physicality,

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Speaker 1: which it works great with what Aaron Rodgers does because

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Speaker 1: he throws a lot of slants and crossing routes, and

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Speaker 1: Adams was great on those. He's not he's not great

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Speaker 1: at gaining separation, but he has a double move that

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Speaker 1: reliably got him separation against veteran corners. He reminds me

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Speaker 1: a lot of an early career Michael Crabtree, with strong

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Speaker 1: hands and physicality and the just the level of effusiveness

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Speaker 1: of the prayer. I mean, now you can tell they

591
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Speaker 1: think he's a more talented player than a James Jones

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Speaker 1: everyone was. They think he can be a number one

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Speaker 1: type of player, like like Jordy Nelson and Randall cop

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Speaker 1: who weren't first round picks either. And if one of those,

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Speaker 1: I think he's he's gonna have a massive year if

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Speaker 1: one of them goes down with an injury. At one point,

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Speaker 1: they sound extremely confident that he could step in and

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Speaker 1: be a full time player. I mean, he played a

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Speaker 1: lot of snaps last year. I think there was only

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Speaker 1: like five rookies that played more snaps at the at

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Speaker 1: the position than he did last season. And doing the

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Speaker 1: film watching on him, there was a play that I

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Speaker 1: showed you last week the Cowboys game where he catches

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Speaker 1: it basically on the sideline, turns around and pushes a

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Speaker 1: Cowboys cornerback off with one hand. I mean, he's wrong

606
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Speaker 1: and he uses. He's not extremely fast, but he's extremely physical.

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Speaker 1: It's a promising sign that his biggest games came in

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Speaker 1: the Packers Bass games against the Patriots when that was

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Speaker 1: the game of the regular season, and then against the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in the playoffs. But how many rookies can you

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Speaker 1: say one games for your team? He won the Patriots game.

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Speaker 1: I came out of that thinking if they didn't have

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Speaker 1: Davonte Adams on the team, that matchup won them the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you can get a rookie, especially a

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Speaker 1: rookie receiver to win you a gamer too, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a huge plus and a sign that he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing some big bangs well on a team that doesn't

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Speaker 1: lack for receivers. And you wouldn't necessarily even see a rookie,

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Speaker 1: you know, stepping up in a big position like that.

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Speaker 1: What what is this offense missing? I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: missing anything, Like quarterback position is a little shaky. One

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Speaker 1: thing that's everlooked is they might have the best offensive

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Speaker 1: line in the NFL. I mean, the Cowboys get credit

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Speaker 1: for it. Packers have been together for a long time

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Speaker 1: in that offensive line. Yeah, you could say a premier

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Speaker 1: left tackle or someone's a guy you think is gonna

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Speaker 1: be like a pro bowler at any point. It's great,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess you could. But then you see

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Speaker 1: Rogers dancing around in the pocket the way he does,

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Speaker 1: It's like he makes up for I mean he you know,

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Speaker 1: he helps make up for some of that. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: And I think the odds. I think the odds and

633
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Speaker 1: being right on this one are especially high because I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, between Nelson and Cobbs, someone someone will probably

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Speaker 1: get hurt at some point and he'll get his chances

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Speaker 1: to be a starter for a part of the I

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Speaker 1: think we're all kind of in the camp that this

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Speaker 1: could be a potentially special, potentially record breaking offense. My

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Speaker 1: only question is we say, yeah, if Cobb are no

640
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Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson get hurt, he slides into the void. But

641
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: what if that doesn't have one, if they're all healthy,

642
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: does he get lost in the mixer? Does he still

643
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: make an impact that shows up on the statuet. I

644
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: think it'll be a lot of a lot Like last season.

645
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: It'll show up big for some games, but it depends

646
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: on the coverage. If they're gonna double cover Nelson or Cobb,

647
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Adams will have a huge game. But if they single

648
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: cover those guys, maybe he's not. Rogers will keep looking

649
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: at Nelson Cobb instead of Adams. I think it inconsistency,

650
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: probably yeah, and it hell that they don't have some

651
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: sort of go to tight end. That's eating up a

652
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: big chunk of what Adams would have. I mean I

653
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: looked at every third wide out on the Packers since

654
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Speaker 1: McCarthy and Rogers were together, and the numbers were what

655
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Speaker 1: you think they were. They were not overly impressive. They're

656
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: very average, but the way they used them last year,

657
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: like you said, he blows up in certain spots, and

658
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and Randall cop have had injury issues here

659
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: and there. They're gonna miss some games. Can you imagine

660
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: this offense with your Michael Finley too, That would be crazy. Yeah.

661
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Speaker 1: I think he would have been the one to take

662
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: away from his Adam's production potentially like that. I feel

663
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: like Finley, it's not gonna have a good year this year. Wow,

664
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Speaker 1: too soon? All right? Unfeeling? Moving on Greg Rosenthal, you wrote,

665
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: we were just talking about the Cowboys and their offensive line.

666
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: How about their defensive line with number fifteen on our

667
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: making the leafless Tyrone Crawford. Uh. You saw him make

668
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: some guardens look like fools this year, didn't you. Yeah?

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00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: One of them was Kyle Long, who Daniel Jeremiah was

670
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: talking to some people he he helped influence this choice

671
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: of Tyrone Crawford. DJ. Did I believe he works at

672
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: this network in some other capacity, but I'm not. I

673
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: am actually not familiar with what he does. TD would

674
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: jump in, but he's not listening right now about Tyron

675
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Crawford make Kyle Long look bad on one sack and

676
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: I just watching Cowboys games thought he always stood out

677
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: to me, and I did a little more digging and

678
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: I found out, you know, he was coming off a

679
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: torn Achilles tendon and usually that takes a while to

680
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: get back on it. He looked very good coming off

681
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: of that, and he was not supposed to be a

682
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: defensive tackle last year. He spent the entire offseason practicing

683
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: at defensive end. Injuries happened, they really needed someone. He

684
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: switched in week to to defensive tackle, uh and he

685
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: was fantastic and he was kind of in a part

686
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: time role. I think they're gonna get him more snaps

687
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: this year, but he's just a guy you watched and

688
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: he's always in the backfield. He didn't quite finish a

689
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: lot of plays, but he had a lot of hurries.

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Twenty nine hurries twelve QB hits, which is huge numbers

691
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: for a guy who only played about half the snaps

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00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: last year. So I like a little Tyrone Crawford. We

693
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be a national TV enough to get

694
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: some buzz. Did I read this correctly? A poor man's

695
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: in Dompkins Sue? Now? That was That was what DJ

696
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: said to me. And he was one of the names

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00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: that came back to him from other executives saying, who

698
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: are some young players you think could bust out? And

699
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: they thought Crawford because of his strength, that he kind

700
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: of reminded him of Sue. That he's always just going, going, going, pushing, pushing, pushing,

701
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: that kind of player. But you know, to be honest,

702
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: most of the hurries and the hits and the sacks

703
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: he had were from beating people on moves too, So

704
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: I think he's versatile. He was a fun guy to watch.

705
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: After reading this, it seemed you like, you believe he

706
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: could be the best defensive player on the Cowboys. I

707
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: thought that last year. For the first half of the year,

708
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best probably per play he was.

709
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not exactly stepping on a limb here.

710
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus liked him a lot too. They had

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00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: him as a top fifth teen guy as a part

712
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: time player. So if he just increased his snaps, that

713
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: would make him one of the best guys in the

714
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: entire league. Is there any obstacle attached to this player

715
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: on any level? No, he's perfect and that's the post.

716
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't, you know, play a lot last year.

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00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: That could be a problem. He's the defensive tackle, you know,

718
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: so just getting noticed is that never gonna be that easy.

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: He's not a he's not a big guy for a

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you know. I say he's not big, but

721
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: relatively for yes, he would be like four times bigger

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00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: than any of us, a poor man's smaller version of

723
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: the Dominicans. Soo then like almost like now we can

724
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: see you would keep in a pocket and walk around

725
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: the park. That would be cute, little cute, little payer.

726
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: Whoever heard of a cowboy guy being kind of under

727
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: the radar? Too? When when you watch their games, I

728
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: always like that Tyrone Crawford, he always he always made three,

729
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: three or four plays every game. That makes it Jarah,

730
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: who's taking plenty of dessert criticism in the last ten

731
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Whatever, they got some good players on this roster.

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: They've they've done better in the personnel department than they

733
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: did during the dark period in the early offs. There

734
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: may be more. I think they're more checks and balances

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00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: in house at this point, and they look at this

736
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: the risk they took the so called risks on some

737
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: of these Gregory and the offensive lineman. I mean, if

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: they hit on those, he's going to be seen in

739
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: a hole, different pint and we'll we'll move on from

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00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: him soon. But that's one of the reasons why I

741
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: picked him up. As there's other good people around him

742
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: now too. At some point they could have a line

743
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: of Gregory Hardy, DeMarcus Lawrence, and uh Tyrone Crawford. You're

744
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: cooking with gas there. That could be fun. You can

745
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: move Hardy inside if you want. He did that in

746
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: Carolina and this was a guy there defends ave coordinator Marinelli.

747
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: He had Warren Sap. I mean, that's this position. He

748
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: made Henry Melton a lot of money in Chicago by

749
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: playing this position, and now here he is in Dallas

750
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: coaching them up. Excellent point, great job, Greg, welcome back.

751
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: Now the rust has been knocked off and just hitting bombs.

752
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: Greg just said his own personal record for most arm

753
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: raises in one post, a lot of celebrating, celebrating my

754
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford excitement, great job. Finally number nine on our

755
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: list and it's the most recent one. You could see

756
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: all of these at NFL dot com slash Making the Leap. Uh.

757
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, Eagles quarterback. We've talked about him a lot,

758
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's worth talking about him again now because

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00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: Uh West, you wrote the piece on this that Bradford

760
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: enters a great, great situation for quarterbacks. We knew that.

761
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: But what we're trying to figure out now we're trying

762
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: to make sense of as people in the football world,

763
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: is this guy was a former number one overall pick

764
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: who flashed legitimate star skill at times, blows out his

765
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: knee twice. Now for him to be on the Making

766
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: the Leap list, that means that we believe, or Chris

767
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: believes that not only is Bradford gonna be healthy or

768
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: healthy enough, he is now going to thrive and become

769
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: the player the Rams always wanted him to be. I'm

770
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: not convinced of that. He's an interesting guy to write about,

771
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: but he's a maddening player to watch. I mean, he's

772
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: just he's the most maddening quarterback to watch in the NFL.

773
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: He's got, he's as physically gifted it's just about anybody,

774
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: and he approaches the game like he's Alex Smith. I mean,

775
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: just watching him, there's like three plays a game where

776
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: he throws up beyond ten yards out of forty passes.

777
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: It's just maddening to he checks down the entire game,

778
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: and it's just I don't know how much of that

779
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: is the Rams scheme and his surrounding town. I know

780
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: that no no quarterbacks ever had more excuses made for

781
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: him than Sam Bradford. I don't know how much of

782
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: it is. The way to look at it, This is

783
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: the kind of the put upper, shut up season for him,

784
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: because no one's gonna say the scheme held back Sam

785
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Bradford this year. If he's healthy and he doesn't produce,

786
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine ever really stepping up at this

787
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: point in his career. You would think so, but Sam

788
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: Bradford attracts scouts, executive and coaches like he's the hottest

789
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: bell at the ball. I mean, this guy has done

790
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: nothing in six years. Really, since he had good rookie season,

791
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: He's done nothing but regress in five years since then,

792
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: and couch. Coaches and scouts drool over him. Still, he

793
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: could have gone for more than a first round draft pick.

794
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: There you go. Is it hard to say like this

795
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: is this is a make or break, put up or

796
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: shut up year when he's coming off of two massive

797
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: knee injuries. We've never seen a quarterback come back from

798
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: that as far as I can remember, and if anything,

799
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: even with one, you'd say, oh, well, he's not gonna

800
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: be the same this year. He almost have a project

801
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: to next season when his knee is potentially healthy. I mean,

802
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: how what what can we really expend physically from Sam Bradford.

803
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: He was hobbling just a couple of weeks by me

804
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: make or break for his next contract though, He's going

805
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to be a free agent after the year, so that

806
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: if he plays well for six games he could have

807
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: one of those Tony Romo or Colin Kaepernick contracts. Well,

808
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the knee is the easy thing. But to me,

809
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: the most important thing is Chip Kelly has to rewire

810
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: these guy the way he plays. I mean, the most

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00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: telling sign was that Austin Davis came in third string,

812
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: undrafted brook quarterback and accomplished things in his first three

813
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: NFL games that Sam Bradford never did in six years.

814
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Completions in three straight games seven point five yards per attempt.

815
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Bradford had never done that over a three game stretch

816
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: in his entire career, and he had devolved into this

817
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: guy who just wouldn't take chances on the football. But

818
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: everyone gets those numbers in Philly, so I mean nothing else.

819
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford has just gotta Does that even mean that

820
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: he takes the leap? Though? If he puts up if

821
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: he puts up Mark Sanchez numbers, does that mean that

822
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Sant Bradford took the leap or does it mean that

823
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: he just is playing at the level of any quarterback.

824
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: He'd have to be better than that. Sance has made

825
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: too many mistakes. Was two up. His numbers were good,

826
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: but I don't think anyone watched him thought he Sanchez

827
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: was really accurate. His ball placement was impeccable between the numbers,

828
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: but he's absolutely horrendous outside the numbers in downfield. Can

829
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Speaker 1: we expect Bradford to be better than that? Well, he's

830
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: got the arm. Yeah, I think he's got the arm,

831
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: and his decision making is a little bit better, and

832
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: his ball placement's really good. I think it just comes

833
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: down to are you going to try your offensive lining

834
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: your wide receivers enough to throw the ball down the

835
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: field once in a while, Mark Sessler, Yes, Sir, Sam

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00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Bradford on the Eagles in two thousand sixteen. Yes, I

837
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I think that Kelly had his chance to move on

838
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: this guy multiple times, and I think the faith in

839
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: him is real. And I mean again, I don't sure

840
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: if he completely stinks, but I think it's more about

841
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: what's his opportunity going to be, because if he's not

842
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: fully healthy, I don't think. I think Sam just starts

843
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: the year potentially. I think if he can stay healthy,

844
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: this this one will look good and he'll play well. Well.

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00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: We just said yeah a couple of weeks ago, we

846
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: said if he played all sixteen games or played fourteen

847
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: or fifteen and ended the season, and I'm promising fashion

848
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: in Sam Bradford's world. Isn't that making the leap? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I would rather have Sam Bradford as my quarterback than

850
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: Nick Fooles, So I I agree. I like, I like

851
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: the potential to hit on this one fake until you

852
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: make it, guess Dan against It's separated from the entire

853
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: makes some observations. Greg read it out, go ahead, it

854
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: feels good, doesn't it? Fake it till you make it?

855
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: Colon making a point to make some observations about making

856
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: the leap. That's it, NFL dot com slash making the leap.

857
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Faking that whole thing was a good idea. We did

858
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: it until we made it exactly exactly. Yes, Greg's back

859
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: and he's on fire all right before we go again.

860
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: He was teasing a little bit of something that came up.

861
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: I was a couple of weeks ago. I was listening

862
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: back to the show as I do, taking notes pros

863
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: and cons and each of the members of the of

864
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: the show UM, and the outro music played, and let's

865
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: just hear the oultro music for our show. And it

866
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: occurred to me that I'm a little and let me know,

867
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: if you guys are great, I'm a little over the

868
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: ultro music, isn't it say? I don't even I don't

869
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: even really remember anymore how it came to be, but

870
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe we can do better. Am I

871
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: crazy to think that UM is over this ultro music?

872
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: Because I am of TDS cooling the gang drop? Okay, Well,

873
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: that says that speaks volumes right there. So why what

874
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: I did was I asked each of the members of

875
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL team, and I included myself in this,

876
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: to put the faith in the hands of Sully and

877
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: uh and t D behind the Glass. And I don't

878
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: know if the irishman McGuinness is involved with this, but

879
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: I said, this is what we're gonna do. Each of

880
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the members of the podcast, the four of us are

881
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: going to give you ten words to describe what we

882
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: imagine the new outro song of the Around the NFL

883
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: podcast to sound like. And then we'll be up to

884
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: you to go through our library uh and choose something

885
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: that's similar to that, and then hopefully a behind the glass.

886
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: You guys do a good job picking uh something that's

887
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: representative of the explanation that we provided and be maybe

888
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: as a group, the four of us or maybe the

889
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: listeners can decide what to actually use. UM. So I

890
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: thought this would be a good exercise. I mean, christ,

891
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: it's it's July seven, so let's do it. Uh so

892
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: t D at first, before we te up the first

893
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the first description with the accompanying song, did you find

894
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: and Sully, did you find this to be difficult, not

895
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: at all as uh as you guys may not know.

896
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: In my other life, I was a breakdance breakdance dancer.

897
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: In this life, though, I am a pretty good house

898
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: party djou about the music. And the trick is you

899
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: don't set the mood, You compliment the movide what's going on,

900
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: and then you and you hit the tracks and everyone

901
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: has a good time. So I had fun with this one.

902
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Sully involved in this as well, and he was loving it.

903
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: And it was the downstairs laughing like he usually does.

904
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Coming mean that guy. He is outgoing and friendly and

905
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: he's got a sense of humor to him. That's so yeah,

906
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: I got man, it's weird stash, but a little bit weird.

907
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: Um all right, so why don't we I'll go first,

908
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: So again this these are the rules, and I hope

909
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: and I didn't see anybody else's, but I hope everyone

910
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: followed the rules. Ten word Max, Okay, this is what

911
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: I wrote. Hip hop, hip hop, tinged, victorious, celebratory, adventurous, spirit,

912
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: sonically fresh, and let's hear what you got? What you

913
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: got out? All right, here's where we got little tinge

914
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: a little bouncing alright, listen, I'm gonna say it right bang,

915
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: drop it. Oh yeah, yeah, okay, you guys did a

916
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: great job with this. Is this is exactly when I

917
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: this is. This is an adventurous spirit to this open

918
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: it up to the floor. That's a really strong opening salvo.

919
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I even told you at the time. You sent that

920
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: out by mistake to everyone, you haven't seen ours. We

921
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: were told to send it out to everyone. Well whatever

922
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: it was. When I signed it to the people behind

923
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: the glass, I was told by t D to send

924
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: it to wh sent that out. I said that that's

925
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: the song I want that. He pretty much really stole

926
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: what I was. That was it? That was it? TD

927
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: did it. Maybe I'll go next. Then let's see what

928
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: mine's a little different. Let's see if it's the same song.

929
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Let's or who knows? Okay, what was yours? Correct? Mine

930
00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: was foreboding, rhythmic and of days, youthful parties over back stories.

931
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: List to Greg then different things. How could it be

932
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: johnty and party. That's why the end of days slash

933
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: n gotcha. It's like it's it's like the end of

934
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: days is coming. More descriptions part of the exercises. They

935
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: just get Greg also came over to my workstation and

936
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: we spoke about low Wayne and the cheating three albums,

937
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: cheating the outro. You are politicking, alright, that should be

938
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: held against Greig's pick. Let's the carter to alright, go ahead,

939
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: it's little. It takes a while for you to drop.

940
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: Is what exactly what you want? In a ten second?

941
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: You're building it up all right till Thursday? What is that?

942
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Let me just try this on outside like this. All right,

943
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: that's it for another edition to be Around the NFL podcast.

944
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. We gotta again, we gotta you gotta

945
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: be doing that while it's right. Okay, okay, let's do it.

946
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's go all right, that's it for another

947
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: edition of the Round the League Podcast. I'm going to

948
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: go home and drown myself in my bathtub, and I

949
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: hope you guys will come to my funeral. Uh and

950
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: whoever's taking on the show after me, good luck till Tuesday.

951
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good good good. The room explode, Dan,

952
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: You did an excellent politicking against Greg to remove his song,

953
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: but then it it went back against you because of

954
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: that perfect drop right there. That that was that was

955
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: nice I think what you did was you listen to

956
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: the words they gave you very well that no matter what,

957
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: whether it's better than Dan the song or not, I

958
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: think I like them both so far. I didn't like

959
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: that little like scraps thing. I was kind of like

960
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: handsome Dust Brothers E and I wasn't into that. But

961
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: everything else is good. West yours inspired syncopated funk dropped

962
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: from Mount Olympus like manna from heaven. Interesting and and uh,

963
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: this feels like don't think t D and Sully might

964
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: struggle it, but let's see what they got. So yeah,

965
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: to pull the curtain back. We're already up in the

966
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: studio at this point, so Sully went on this, I

967
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: have full faith but in this is right here. Let's

968
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: check it out. It takes a little while for you

969
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: to drop as well. We have racist music. I'm not

970
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: worried about that. Funky okay, I get more along the

971
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: line Parliament or Shaka Kan and Rufus. It seems a

972
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: little more blues rocky. Yeah, I don't, I will say,

973
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: although I liked West's description, not an easy thing to

974
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: work off for in terms of putting together the sonic

975
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: palette that was tough. Yeah, we still have to. Like,

976
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that that one's a loser.

977
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: It does not reflect either on Sully or I must

978
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: not have whoever, whoever is the generic artist be better? Now, Finally, Mark,

979
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: hold on, let's that's right there, alright, ten words hallucinogenic

980
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: boundary stretching, alien mine from solar depths, not Kanye. I

981
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: like it. That's like you needed. It's a last bit. Alright, Alright,

982
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: let's go and that's it for another edition. Will be

983
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast. It was a great show. No,

984
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: that's all it does. It just sits there, kind of

985
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: like going to the podcast. Oh, can't go a show

986
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: with that's some wild shot from TV that makes no sense?

987
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Um atmospheric. Yeah, no it I feel like it does

988
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: sync up with the description. What do you think, Mark?

989
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: Is this what? Yeah? I like it. I like it.

990
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it fits the what we're looking for.

991
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't call that boundary stretching. Not quite all right, Finally,

992
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: so I think we can narrow down to the first two.

993
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: So can we hear the first two one more time?

994
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: And maybe I don't know, should we decide here? Should

995
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: we let the listeners aside, Okay, all right, here we

996
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: go and and T do you figure out how to

997
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: facilitate this on Twitter? But this is let's call this,

998
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: uh the old zeuser option, the outre, the oucher. That's

999
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: a that's it for another addition to be around the

1000
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. We will be back next week with Billy

1001
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Crystal and Shaka Khan. Until then, quite a pool. I

1002
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: would say it needs to be versatile enough because sometimes

1003
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: if we have some outtakes that we want to put

1004
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: on the back in good enough to and now uh,

1005
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: finally Greg's this would be the boss version. I like it.

1006
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: I like it. I don't know it works. I guess

1007
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: the road going. I like them both like actually kind

1008
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: of like Dan I do, and I like mine a

1009
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: little better, but I wouldn't fight this one. I think

1010
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: mine is more, more, better across the board, but yours

1011
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: has the real moment of splendor at it. It doesn't

1012
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: have a moment of it does acquire you to do

1013
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: some more work, though I don't like that at any

1014
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: more work anybody. It's not my decision. It's a listener.

1015
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: It's like counting you down on Life TV. You know, alright,

1016
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: what just since we'll never hear it again. Let's do

1017
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: an actual outro with West's clunker because we gotta go.

1018
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: We gotta go to a meeting right now. All right, partners.

1019
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: That's it for another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast.

1020
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday with another show. It's gonna be

1021
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: a rollicking good time. Is Dan Hanson signing off for

1022
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, The mail Man, the Boss and Tait and

1023
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Sully and the Irishman behind the Glass. I don't like

1024
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: them Irishman deal that