1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Christo and this is the Keep It 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Positive Sweetie Show. Welcome to Keep It Positive, sweetye, the 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: place where we he'll grow and learn together. Today's guest 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: is founder, media executive and the visionary behind fashion Bomb Daily, 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Claire Somers. Claire Somers is the visionary behind fashion Bomb Daily, 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: a platform shoe built long before digital media became mainstream. 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Today's conversation is about longevity, leadership, and the quiet discipline 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: required to evolving and staying true to your vision. Kire 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: certainly please give a very warm welcome to Claire Somers. Claire, 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: we've only got you here. You're looking fabulous. It's given 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: a bomb honey, thank you. 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: You look off my glasses. 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I mean you really could have kept them on because 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: it was given the whole look. 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: I love it. I have missed the shoes. 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Yes I tried. 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: I oiled up my legs, but I try not to 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 4: do it too much because I had this incident on 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: Tairman Hall Show where. 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: Because it's like you don't want to be ashy TV. 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely overdid it and I look like a 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: grease ham and all everybody in my family could talk 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 4: about was how my legs were so shiny. 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 3: So I tried to talk. 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: They look good. What did you use? 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 3: I use this vasoline like oil sheen. 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to get that because that looks good. 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yes, he has some nice legs. 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: All right, get them insured, girl, get the legs in short. So, Claire, 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: you are actually a native of Atlanta, George, I had 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: no idea. 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: Well, I was born in Brooklyn. 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Okay, that's what you got back to. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was raised in Atlanta. So I moved here 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety. I was nine years old and went 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: to high school, junior high everything here. Yes, I raised 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: in old Atlanta. 39 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Old it's new now it's new now. 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Everybody who was here back then, it's as like, man, 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: old Atlanta is way better than this Atlanta. 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: It was just different. 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: Man like bye Head and going to Lenox Mall and Freaknick. 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: I mean, have you been have you? I mean I 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: was too young for me. 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: I was too young too, but yes I heard stories 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: and seeing footage. 48 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: But like we had to. 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: Drive through Freaknick going home from school, and I was 50 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: just like it was it was something to behold. It 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: was just different and this was Atlanta obviously before like 52 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: Reality TV, before the Housewives. It was just like I 53 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: remember going to Lenox Mall seeing Usher Usher be like 54 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 4: shopping at foot Locker. 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: TLC would just be shopping Draine do Pree. They would 57 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: just be you know, hanging out with us, and it 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: was just it was just different. 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: It was just a cool time, a different time. I 60 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: love that time to be alive. It was. 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Man, I've heard the stories. I'm like, Dang, I got 62 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: here at the towards the end of that era where 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, New Atlanta started to creep in 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: around the time I moved here. 65 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: Big difference. 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: But you have a degree in Romance Languages in Literatures 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 2: and African American Studies from. 68 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: University. 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: First of all, how did we get from? Okay, so 70 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: you're from Brooklyn, Atlanta to Harvard because you don't hear 71 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: that a lot, especially in our community. So I would 72 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: love to know how you got there and what that 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: journey was. 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Like for you. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 76 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: So my mom is a teacher, Okay, and she had 77 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: me and my brother reading since we were three years old. 78 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 79 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: And it was really kind of the culture of our 80 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: house reading every book you could put your hands on writing, 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: and she was always very intestent on us going to 82 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: the best schools. 83 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: So I went to the Westminster Schools. 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: Of Atlanta, Oh here, and I just remember, like in 85 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 4: junior high school, I was kind of joking around all 86 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 4: the time we were doing dances and the bathroom like 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: if TikTok were oute, we would have been the stars 88 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: for sure. But I just remember we had this ceremony 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: and people were getting certificates to be on because they 90 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: made the honor roll, they got good grades, and all 91 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: these kids got called up and there was like one 92 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: black kid. It was a majority white school and only 93 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: one black girl, you know, made honor Roll. And me 94 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: and my friends we were just laughing in the crowd 95 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: and one of them was like, I don't care about 96 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: honor Roll. 97 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: I'll never be on honor Roll. 98 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: But for me, I was like something clicked where I 99 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: was like I want to be up there. I'm not 100 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: okay in general in life with not being exceptional, and 101 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: so I just decided that I was going to make 102 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 4: honor Roll and I went for it. And so every 103 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: year I made honor Roll. I was in all the 104 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: ap classes, all the honor classes. But I didn't ever 105 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: think of going to Harvard. 106 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: I think now. 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: People are more aware, maybe, but I'd never thought of 108 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: going to an Ivy League school. It's really my brother 109 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: who is actually the true smarty pants, and our family. 110 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 4: And it's interesting because I was just spending the weekend 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: with my family here and he picked me up. 112 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: He's using all these sat words. We go home. 113 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 4: He's playing classical music on the piano, and because I've 114 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 4: been away from it for so long, I didn't realize 115 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: this man is a genius. My brother is a freakin genius. 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 4: And he has haus me as a little sister. And 117 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: I'm kind of like always dancing and singing and you know, 118 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: not as serious. But it was my brother who first 119 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: went to Harvard. Wow, and he was like, you should 120 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: apply to Harvard. I was very active in school. I 121 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: you know, did well in terms of my grades, always 122 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: getting a's and b's. And then I was tennis team, cheerleader, track, 123 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: I played the viola, I was French club. 124 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: I was just very involved. 125 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: And my brother was like, I wanted to go to Columbia. 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: I just wanted to move to New York. But my 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: brother was like. 128 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Which is a great school as well? Is a great school? 129 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: I applied to all the schools. 130 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: I didn't want to be in Atlanta. Yeah, but I 131 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 4: applied to all the schools. And my brother was like, 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: you should apply to Harvard. You should apply early admission. 133 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 4: He read over my essay. He recommended I do an 134 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: extra credit essay, which I did. I went and I 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: met with the regional director, like the regional admissions director 136 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: for the South, and I got in early. 137 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: Wow, And I said, yes. 138 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. 139 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: So I can only imagine what it's like to go 140 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: to school at Harvard. What was it experience like for 141 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: you You're coming at from Atlanta going to Harvard, Like, 142 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: what was that like? 143 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: It was? 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: It was very interesting. It was a lot of imposter syndrome. 145 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: I can imagine because the kids in my class, these 146 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 4: are kids who, like spoke at the Million Man March, 147 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: They're the salutatory and valedictorian of their high schools. I 148 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: was none of that. I was just a girl who 149 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: did well in school. I went to a grade school, 150 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: but I was not particularly I was in valedictorian of 151 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: my school. I definitely wasn't the smartest and so just 152 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 4: coming to terms with like I deserve to be here, 153 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: it really took me a really long time to understand 154 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: why they said yes to me. And then you know, 155 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: coming from the South, I'm here smiling and happy. I'm 156 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: like hey, and you're just like you know, and people 157 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: you can meet the night before, they won't They'll like 158 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: literally look right through you the next day. And so 159 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 4: it's just like a northern thing. Yeah, that it took 160 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: me a little. It took me a little while to 161 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: get used to that. And the weather of course, the 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: snow days, Like you can get snow up to your 163 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: waist and they're still having class. 164 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, snow day, They're like no. 165 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: No, in Atlanta, you have like a little dust of snow, 166 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: they'll be like everything shut down. 167 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: We literally shut the city down. Yeah, but those are 168 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: just a few things. But I can say that it 169 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: was a really unique experience. I have some of the 170 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: best friends I've ever made from going to Harvard. I 171 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: think that's one of one of the amazing things about 172 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: going there, aside from an amazing education and amazing alumni network. 173 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: And I know I have that work ethic, yes, because 174 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: of Harvard. 175 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. 176 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of work ethic, you launched fashion Bomb Daily in 177 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: two thousand and six. This is a time when digital 178 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: platform was still Finn in his footing. You were really 179 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: ahead of your time. What sparked it and made you say? Hey, 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: going from Harvard because you studied did not study fashion? 181 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: I did not study fashion, y'all. 182 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: They do not have a fashion major at Harvard. 183 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: It just doesn't. 184 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: So where did that come from. 185 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: I've always loved to shop. I've always loved to write. 186 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: My mother sewed clothes for me growing up. My grandfather 187 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 4: was a master taylor in Nasaw, Bahamas. He would make tuxedos, 188 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: wedding dress is. He can make anything, and he taught 189 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: my mother how to sew. And I remember growing up 190 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: I was kind of bigger than the other girl, so 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: she would make clothes for me. And so fashion was 192 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: always one of those things that I loved, but I 193 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: never thought it could be a career for me. And 194 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: so initially after I graduated, I was just like, Okay, 195 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 4: I like to write, so let me be a writer. 196 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: My first internship was an upscale magazine here in Atlanta, 197 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: and I really excelled. They only had an opening in 198 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: the fashion department. I wanted to write politics. I wanted 199 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 4: to be serious and opening in the fashion department, and 200 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: it just worked out. 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: And while I was. 202 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: There, I was writing captions and then I was writing 203 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: cover stories. They were like, Wow, you're really bright, You're 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: really talented. And so by the end of it, I was, 205 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: you know, modeling in the magazine. I was writing all 206 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: this stuff and they wanted to hire me. But now 207 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 4: I knew that I wanted to be a journalist and 208 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: be a writer, and so I was like, let me 209 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 4: move to New y work, which is like the home 210 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: of publishing media. Yeah, and I did. I found all 211 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: the paid internships I could find. I ended up at 212 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: New York Magazine. I was an intern there making five 213 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 4: dollars and fifteen cents an hour. Mind you, at upscale 214 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: it was completely unpaid New York Magazine five dollars and 215 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: fifteen cents an hour, working like three days a week, 216 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: so super broke, super poor. And then I got a 217 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 4: job at Real Simple magazine. I just wanted a full 218 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: time job. It was like a year and a half 219 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: of interning for like no money, no health insurance, et cetera. 220 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: In New York. 221 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, and like say, staying with friends and 222 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: staying with family. But then I got my first full 223 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 4: time job, but it wasn't the perfect job. So I 224 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: was a researcher reporter at Real Simple magazine, Okay, And 225 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: while I was there, I was doing the fashion and 226 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: I was doing beauty. I was like researching for their stories, 227 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: but they I could not get into the fact department 228 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: they would have. They would be like, oh, yeah, we're 229 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 4: searching for a fashion editor, but they would hire somebody else, 230 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: or they would find somebody from outside. And I was like, oh, 231 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: can you create a position for me, can create a 232 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: fashion researcher position? 233 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: And they were like no, And I always asked. 234 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure I was wearing them out because I was like, 235 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: can we do something? Can I get a raise? Can 236 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: I get a promotion? And they were just like, sit 237 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: right there and do what you're supposed to do. And 238 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: so I was kind of looking around, seeing where else 239 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: I could go, sending my resume to Vogue, trying to 240 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 4: get informational interviews. At Vogue, they told me they did 241 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: not want to see me because I was not a 242 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: candidate that they would be interested in. I was not 243 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: getting anywhere. With the Harvard degree and the internships I 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: had done, I just could not get an even entry 245 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: level job at a fashion magazine. So that's when I decided. 246 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: At the recommendation of one of my Harvard friends who 247 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: helped me make a website, she was like, you should 248 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: start a blog. 249 00:11:59,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 250 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: And at the time I was just writing about myself 251 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: and me going shopping and it was extremely boring until 252 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: somebody wrote in and they were like where they sent 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 4: a random picture there, like where can I find these socks? 254 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: And because I was a researcher, I found them and 255 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: then I was like, oh, people want to People were 256 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: sending me questions about what are these bandage dresses girls 257 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 4: are wearing, what are these red bottom shoes people are wearing? 258 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: And so you know, it was like Christian lubutin shoes, 259 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: you know, the Erbila gair dresses, which were big, and 260 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: I really just found a niche for women who look 261 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: like me and you, women and men who look like 262 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: me and you who were not being covered in traditional media. 263 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: And it took off. 264 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: It did take off, and that was two wow. 265 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: Twenty years later, twenty years, it'll be twenty years in August. 266 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: You gotta do something, Claire, I know yours. Yeah, that 267 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: is no small feet, Like I'm proud of you. 268 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: I didn't rise. 269 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: It have been a long and what started off as 270 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 2: knows from people that you probably look up to and 271 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: wanted to really work for, is what. 272 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Started your own brand. I love it. 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't want people to miss that because a lot 274 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: of times we feel like we had to wait on 275 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: other people to give us the opportunity when we can 276 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: build it ourselves. Shout out to your friend that say 277 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: we're going to build this website. 278 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was afraid. I was afraid to do it. 279 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: I was working a full time job. I had heard 280 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: people getting fired from their jobs for creating blogs, so 281 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: it was. 282 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: Really a risk. 283 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: That's so true. 284 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I really just had a great boss who 285 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: looked the other way, because lord knows, I was definitely 286 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: blogging from my desk. I did take my lunch breaks 287 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: to blog, and over the weekends, I would, you know, 288 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: schedule a bunch of posts over the weekends. But yeah, 289 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: it took off an event. I mean, I'm really condensing 290 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 4: this story. It probably took about two years before people 291 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: started stopping me on the train like, hey, you can 292 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: have my seat. Your fashion bomb okay, And I was like, 293 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: I can't do this, I can't work I can't go 294 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: to work every day, I can't commute every day. 295 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: Let me get out of here. 296 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: So two years from starting is when you realize this 297 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: is like and I can give it my. 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: That's not when I started doing it full time, but 299 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: that's when I was like, I need to shift and 300 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: I can't go to this job every day anymore. Because 301 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: after two years, that's when I had snuck in. Okay, 302 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: so I was sneaking into all these things. I'd read 303 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: Comorley Simmons' book Fabulosity, which was my only blueprint for 304 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: what to do to get into fashion. I was not 305 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: getting invited to anything. The best I could do is 306 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: go to a museum and cover it. But I was 307 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: not privy to any fashion events. But because I worked 308 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: at a magazine, I did know that when New York 309 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: Fashion Week was coming, and I knew like when the 310 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: Baby Fat Show was going on, they there were editors 311 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: at my magazine who were invited, but I didn't have 312 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: an invite, And Camorley. 313 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Was like, gate crash the show, and you're like. 314 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: This, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna grass the show. 315 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: But the crazy thing is I was the only blogger, 316 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 4: Like I was one of the first bloggers at New 317 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 4: York Fashion Week. So the bigger platforms at the time, 318 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: like Young Black and Fabulous, Concrete Loop Bossip, they would 319 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: link back to me because I had these exclusive pictures. 320 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: And I didn't even know. I didn't know. 321 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 4: I had no idea that me and my digital camera 322 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: were like the first bloggers at Baby Fat and I was. 323 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: So so green. 324 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: I was so excited that I was taking pictures with 325 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: everybody like you you should. 326 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: You can go back and look at the pictures. 327 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: It's like me and Monica, me and Tiana Taylor, Serena Williams. 328 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: I'm literally doing this with everybody because I'm like, if 329 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: this is the last fashion show I go to, I'm 330 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 4: gonna make sure I take pictures of it. 331 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: I love it. 332 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what were some of the 333 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: the roadblocks that you ran into as you were building 334 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: Fashion Bomb Daily to what we know it to be now. 335 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: It's access, always access. 336 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: It's still would say, is that still a thing? 337 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: It's still a thing? Yeah? 338 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Claire? 339 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: Hmm. 340 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes it's that I'm not asking the right way, 341 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: like this morning, because sometimes I'm like. 342 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: They're racist, you know what I mean. 343 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: But then sometimes it's like you didn't ask. So this 344 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: morning I was like, Okay, let me apply for press accreditation. 345 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: For New York they don't do that anymore, but for 346 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Paris and Milan they do do that. Okay, So I'm like, 347 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 4: let me apply for press accreditation. Do it the right way. 348 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: Same thing with the Golden Globes, same thing with CFDA 349 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: Awards or even the Met Gala. I don't think I 350 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: applied for press accreditation until like this year. 351 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: Oh wow, and it happens. 352 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: And it happened. 353 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Did the Met you did the Golden Globes? Oh my goodness. 354 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: But you know, in the past, I have reached out 355 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: to brands and they're not always receptive. They don't always 356 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: understand our audience. They don't I don't know if they 357 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 4: don't know our buying power, because obviously. 358 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: Our buying power is high, very high. 359 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: But I feel like they don't feel the need to 360 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 4: cater to us, like they don't need to have a 361 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 4: black woman in a Chanelle ad for black women to 362 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: buy Chanelle. Like we will patronize these brands even if 363 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: they don't necessarily respect our dollar or respect us as consumers. 364 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: I think things are changing, Like I did see Louis Vauton. 365 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 4: Their recent ambassadors are like all black. 366 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: I saw that. I was like, wow, it's. 367 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 4: Like Skepta and some footballer. I'm like, okay, Like I 368 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 4: think Louis Vauton definitely gets it. Obviously, with Pharrell and 369 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: Virgil Eeblow and like all the black creative directors. 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 3: They've had, they get it. 371 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: They do. 372 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: But I don't know if a lot of brands have 373 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 4: always gotten it right. But now they're starting to understand. 374 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 4: And I hope that Fashion Bomb Daily was a part 375 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: of the reason why they're starting to shift and be 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: more inclusive, because when I first started, it was not 377 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: like that at all. 378 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: Right, I can imagine I can imagine also leaving you 379 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: with a sense of defeat, like just feeling like, man, I've. 380 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Climbed this ladder. 381 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: I'm here, my brand is known worldwide, and I still 382 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: can't get in certain doors, you know, Like even for me, 383 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: like as an actor, I'm like millions people watch me 384 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: on TV. 385 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm on the number one show. 386 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: And I go to my own networks events and it's 387 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: like I'm like, yeah, wow, it's not a good feeling, 388 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: you know, when you've worked really hard to get to 389 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: where you are and thinking that you would have access 390 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: and not in a like, oh I need to have 391 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: access to all these things, not in that type of sand. 392 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: But I've worked really hard and you think that comes 393 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: along with it, and it doesn't sometimes. 394 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know how good God is talk about 395 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: it because nothing can stop his plans for you. 396 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: No man can stop his plans for you. 397 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: We have paparazzi photographers right now in Paris who are 398 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: sending us footage, inviting us to collaborate for all these 399 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: different shows. There are people like Jeremy who send us 400 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: footage from the show. So it's like I don't need 401 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: to be in there as long as we're getting the footage. 402 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: So there is a way. I've found a way around it. 403 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, And that's a good way to 404 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: look at it too. Yeah. 405 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: And also when I first started, I focused on black 406 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: owned brands because you know, we're a black owned We 407 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 4: are a black owned brand. So it's like, Okay, the 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 4: only shows I'm going to aspire to go to our 409 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: baby Fat Tracy Reese. They're only a handful, you know. 410 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 4: And now it's kind of still the same way, but 411 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, always hoping to expand, hoping people can feel 412 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: our presence. And I feel really good about this year. 413 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 4: I feel like this is going to be the year 414 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: where like hopefully all the doors open up. 415 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now that you're putting in those credential submissions, 416 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure because I'm glad you're Like, it's the way 417 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 2: I was asking, and sometimes I like the way you 418 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: had to you reflected, like, wait, let's take inventory and 419 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: figure out what is really the issue? 420 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 421 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 2: Is it because they don't want me there because I'm 422 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: not asking the right way? 423 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Right? 424 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 4: Sending the emails or the dms is not necessarily how 425 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: everybody operates for sure, like some in France, if they 426 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: perhaps if they know that I'm a credited press, then 427 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: then they'll let me come. And then some brands you 428 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: have to just be a consumer. Yeah, you have to 429 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: buy the brand and then they'll give you tickets. 430 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, that's true as well. 431 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: When you look at look back at the version of you, Now, 432 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: what do you feel most proud about, whether it's professionally 433 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: or personally? 434 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: Wow, what do I feel most proud about? 435 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Because this is twenty years maybe, Yeah, a lot has happened. 436 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: Just overcoming a lot of adversity, yeah, you know, and 437 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: refusing to be better, refusing to accept, no, creating my 438 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 4: own seat at the table. 439 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: When they wouldn't give me a seat at the table. 440 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: Just like the fact that I didn't quit, Yeah, because 441 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 4: a lot of the brands that I mentioned that were 442 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: around when I first started, they're not here anymore, or 443 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 4: they didn't go on to Instagram, they didn't you know, 444 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 4: they wanted to stay in the blocks in the blog space, 445 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: or they literally just quit. Like we know so many 446 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: people who are like, I'm not doing this anymore and 447 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: I'm going to start something else. Yeah, And so I think, 448 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: just my tenacity, my perseverance, I'm not going to quit. 449 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 4: Sometimes I want to quit, but I've learned when you 450 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: want to quit, just take a nap, maybe learn to rest. 451 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 4: But got it, but not quit because I do want 452 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: to find I mean, my goal was to have an exit. 453 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: In twenty years would be beautiful, right, But. 454 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 4: If it's not happening, Like I'm always down for God's timing, 455 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: Like whenever it's God's time for me to stop, then 456 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: I'm ready to do that. But until that time, then 457 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: I'm going to keep rocking. 458 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 459 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: Fashion, no, for sure, Now Fashion Bomb Daily grew from 460 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: a blog into a business spanning editorial, e commerce, brand partnerships, 461 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: and love events. When did you realize this was bigger 462 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: than just content? 463 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: When did I realize it was bigger than just content? 464 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: I think maybe with Fashion Bomb Show of the Day, 465 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 4: when people started submitting for Fashion Bomb Show of the Day. 466 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: But then also I think I had my first I 467 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: used to call it Cocktails with Claire. Now it's called 468 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: Combos with Claire, But I had my first Cocktails with 469 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 4: Claire and people I was just like, oh, you know, 470 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: let's have reader come and we'll meet and greet and 471 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: we'll have cocktails. And every event would sell out. We'd 472 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: put out the tickets and people just buy them, you know, 473 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: and just seeing that event bright notification go off. So yeah, 474 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: I think that first event that we had in twenty thirteen, 475 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: I was like, there's something here, and just always continuing 476 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 4: to diversify and seeing like what is. 477 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: The void in the industry? 478 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, there aren't models of color on the runway, 479 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: Let's have our own runway show. There aren't designers black 480 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: designers showing during New York Fashion Week The Bomb Fashion Show. Okay, 481 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: there are people who come to New York Fashion Week. 482 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: They don't have anything to do, so let's have let's 483 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 4: have an event. Yeah you know, or you know black 484 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: designers don't have mentorship, or young let's say emerging designers, 485 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: they don't have mentorship. Let's create an e commerce platform. 486 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: So always trying to be the solution. When I see 487 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: problems in the fashion industry, I try to be that 488 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: solution and use my platform to try to elevate and 489 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 4: uplift other people. 490 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that now. 491 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: I know for me as a content creator, in the beginning, 492 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: I was doing everything on my own. I was writing, 493 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: I was editing, I was shooting at everything. How was 494 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: that shift from going this is just Claire to now 495 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: I have a team helping do all. You got people 496 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: across the world we do you know, Like what was 497 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: that shift? 498 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: And like did you as a person this is your baby? 499 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: What was it like? 500 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm going to allow other people to have 501 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: a hand in this thing that I built from the 502 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: ground up. 503 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: From the beginning, we had interns. 504 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 4: I remember we had intern contests at First Wow. So 505 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: every year we would it would do it would be 506 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: a reader competition for who could be the next fashion 507 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: Bomb intern and so really kind of from the beginning, 508 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: I had people helping me, and then we started to 509 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 4: find different contributors, Like there are two girls from Brazil 510 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 4: who run our run our Instagram page. So I run 511 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 4: the Instagram page kind of in the morning, late at night, 512 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: but they run it in the evenings. And then we 513 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: have a different team that does advertising. We have a 514 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 4: different team for events. But I think as the needs come, 515 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: you know, you kind of fill in where you can 516 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 4: and then just get the best people that you can 517 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: afford as you continue to scale. 518 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 2: Right, how did you learn the difference between being like 519 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: hands on and holding on too tight? Or you are 520 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: you one of those people that are like, no, I 521 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: don't want I need to be a part of every 522 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: little thing. 523 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: No, I can't because I need to have a life. 524 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: Mama's got to live a life too. 525 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: You know. I don't want to be on my phone 526 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: all day. 527 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to, right, I really don't want to 528 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: be a fifty year old woman. I mean not to 529 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 4: say that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm like, 530 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 4: I want to be sitting down somewhere on the beach. 531 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Listen, get me on the beach, right, you know. 532 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: Like I don't. 533 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 4: I don't like, and I do think it's important to 534 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 4: mentor the next generation to try to bring up someone 535 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: else who's interested. And thankfully, because of our platform and 536 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 4: how many people that you know, all of our followers, 537 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: we have a lot of people who are always willing 538 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 4: to do red carpets for us, help us with social media. 539 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: We always have like people who are willing to help. 540 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: And even I keep going back to this photographer in 541 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 4: Paris who's sending us all this content. It's not perfect 542 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 4: he you know, he mixes up him and her. 543 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 3: I think he called Jaden Smith her the other day. 544 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, like the pronouns are all wrong, but 545 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: it's content. So I'm like, and we like to have 546 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 4: the perfect grid as well, yes, but I'm just like, 547 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: people don't care. People don't even read the captions. Like 548 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: you could literally be like she is wearing the point 549 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: and they'll be like, where's that from? 550 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, loved point right. 551 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: But you know, I think I cannot be obsessed with perfection, 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: Like it's impossible, it's unattainable. And at the end of 553 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 4: the day, we put our readers first, so whatever they 554 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: want to see that's what we're going to give them, 555 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 4: even if it's not tied up in a pretty bow. 556 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: And sometimes it's better that way. 557 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: I feel like the social media's moving more and more 558 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: further away from the perfect content they want to see 559 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: the real they do. 560 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 561 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 562 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: One of my most popular posts was be with no 563 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: makeup on, and I'm like, really, yeah, yeah. 564 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: So I love it. 565 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 2: Somebody was talking I did an interview the other day 566 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: and they're like, you taught me. 567 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: How to put a wig on. 568 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: She's like, I would never get online with like putting 569 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: my hair, and I'm like, I mean, yeah, it's real. 570 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: This is real life. 571 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: People love that. 572 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. What does ownership mean to you? 573 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: I know in our culture, I feel like in the 574 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: most recent years, we've been driving home ownership, own your things, 575 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: building created because that's what everyone else is doing. We 576 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: need to own our own things as well. What does 577 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: it mean to you, especially in this space? 578 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 3: Hmm? 579 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: What does ownership mean to me? I think it's important 580 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 4: for us to maintain this infrastructure going on between businesses, 581 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 4: Like I think back to Black Wall Street and how 582 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: powerful that was and all the black owned businesses that 583 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: were raised to the ground and I'm just like, I 584 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 4: want us to keep it in the community if possible, 585 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: but obviously always welcome collaborators. I mean, our team is 586 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: multi racial, international, you know, but I think it's important 587 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 4: for us to own our story and our narrative because 588 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: we do have a unique point of view and a 589 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: unique take. And how Vogue might cover Pharrell's Louis Baitton 590 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 4: show is different from how we would cover it, you know. 591 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: Like I think I saw a video it was Pharrell's 592 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: final walk for Louis Baton, and it was like classical music, 593 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, on Fashion Bound Daily, we're putting 594 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: front in, you know, because it's just you know, our music, 595 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: our our style, like the way that we see the 596 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 4: world is different, and that's okay, it is, yeah, but 597 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: you can't just keep not taking our culture. 598 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: But it's like we we should have a. 599 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: Say and how we're represented. No, for sure, the sounds 600 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: and the vines and everything. So that's really important to me. 601 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Very I love that now you're running a brand that 602 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: is everybody knows when they simultaneously Fashion Mom Daily and 603 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: Claire Somr's is like hand in hand. 604 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: People don't know me though, really. 605 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: No, I feel like they do. 606 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: You don't know. 607 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: People are like I didn't know you were a woman. 608 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: I thought you were a man. People don't know anything 609 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: about me. They think I live in Atlanta. 610 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 3: They know because you are here. 611 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: I feel like you are here, like. 612 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: I am here quite a bit. I was just here 613 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: like ten days ago. 614 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 2: Literally, Yeah, are you seriously? I guess because I know. 615 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: I feel like everybody knew, like this is your jam. 616 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: People don't know me like I'm in the if you 617 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: go to their profile description, I'm right there, right there, 618 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: and they don't know. 619 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Some people do. 620 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 621 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: So the people that have have you been able to 622 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: separate like this is who Claire is and this is 623 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: the business. I guess you really haven't had a hard 624 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: time with that because you don't think anybody knows. 625 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: I think more people know than you think know me. 626 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I do think that this year is the 627 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: year of the pivot, where I'm going to focus more 628 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: on my personal brand and the things that I want 629 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: to do. I have another book in me, I want 630 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: to do TV. I want to do more, you know, 631 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 4: more books, more projects, just like do more cleare stuff. 632 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: Have my own podcasts, yes, you know, combos with Claire. Yeah, 633 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 4: there's so much more that I want to do, and so, 634 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, I think a slight separation of Claaren and 635 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: Fashion Bomb Daily is underway. I won't abandon my baby 636 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 4: until it has a good home, obviously, but. 637 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it now. I want to know more. 638 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: On a personal tip, you are very busy. I feel 639 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: like you've always got something going on. How do you 640 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: as women one boss woman to another boss woman? How 641 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: do you pour into Claire? What does that day to 642 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: day look like from running this business and then also 643 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: taking time for Claire. 644 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: I don't take time for Clere. I'm like, okay, every 645 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: morning I do try to work out, Okay, at least 646 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: twenty minutes. If I don't have anything to do all day, 647 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: I will be in the gym for like ninety minutes. 648 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: I got a little Apple watch here, I'm going for it. 649 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm lifting weights, I'm running, I'm doing all the things. 650 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 4: A side leg look, oh thank you. I mean, for example, 651 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: for my birthday, what do I do? Okay, my birthday 652 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: was a day after the Golden Globes. I slept in, 653 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: had a nice dinner with my boo, a little bubble bath, 654 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: you know, but I need more of that I definitely 655 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: need like a spa day, I need a massage, I 656 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: need all those things. And I feel like, you're really 657 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 4: good at doing this. I'm not good at doing it. 658 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I schedule massages at least every other week. 659 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: That's good, Like because I carry all the stress in 660 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: my shoulders and I have to, like it's just one 661 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: of those things where I have to like take care 662 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: of Crystal, right, you know, it's so much. And then 663 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: with working now, like that's a part of the recovery. 664 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: And I look at it's like this is why I'm 665 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: taking care of my body. But also like having a 666 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: moment to put the phone down right, not respond, not answered, 667 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: it's a reason to escape. 668 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: So I would challenge you to definitely take time for that. 669 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm trying my goal. One of my goals I wrote 670 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: down three hundred goals this year inspired by Steve Harvey. 671 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: But one of my goals is to take a vacation. 672 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 4: Because it's funny. I don't take vacations. 673 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: I just don't. 674 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: And I would have assistants who would be like, do this, 675 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 4: and they're like, I'm taking a vacation. I'm like, how 676 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: how do my assistant have vacation time, Like what the 677 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: va to go vation? 678 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: I don't have time to go on vacation. I think that. 679 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 4: Unfortunately for some black boss ladies, like we we are 680 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 4: pioneers in our field. We have a lot on our shoulders. 681 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: So things that we're doing are not just for us, 682 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: they're for the culture. Therefore, the young girls looking up 683 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 4: to us. And so even though I can be exhausted 684 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: or you know, frustrated I didn't get to get into 685 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: this show or that show, I'm like, I have to 686 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 4: keep showing up because my job is not done, you know, 687 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: like the calling that God has put on my life. 688 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: I have not completed that assignment yet. So I'll take 689 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: a day. Yeah, I'll go to Nobu and you know, 690 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: luxuriate a little bit, but then it's back to work 691 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: to figuring out that balance is important and so I'm 692 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: still striving to do that. 693 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that. 694 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: Have you experienced any burnout over the years where you're like, okay, 695 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 2: I just this is I'm in over. 696 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: My head here. 697 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: No, I don't burn out, honey, I just keeping like. 698 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: I do take naps, I do sleep in, I do 699 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: watch mindless television. I don't even want to tell you 700 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: what I watch on TV. 701 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: It is terrible. 702 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 4: It's like every every housewives show, every reality show, every 703 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: love after lock up. 704 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: Love after lock up, that's your guilty pleasure. I love it. 705 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: It gets worse. 706 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 4: Okay, there are these bodycam videos police bodycam. It's like 707 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: people acting up in the airport and getting locked up 708 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: all during Christmas holiday. 709 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: I could not stop watching them. 710 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: I was like, there's a TV. 711 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: Show with no it's all on YouTube. 712 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, every YouTuber who's reviewing the the reality shows. 713 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 4: Like that's kind of how it's like mindless entertainment. Maybe 714 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 4: I'll laugh a little bit, but that's kind of how. 715 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: I relax, but. 716 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 3: Burnout. I just I don't know. 717 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 4: I just really feel like I have something to do, 718 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 4: and like we don't have a Black Vogue we had, 719 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 4: we had Suede magazine that shut down. We had Vibe 720 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: Vixin that doesn't exist anymore. We don't have anything for us. 721 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't. 722 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: I'm just like holding myself to the task that you 723 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 4: have to keep going even if you're tired, take a break, 724 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 4: take a nap, and just keep keep it going. 725 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the books, you talk about it. 726 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: I want to get into Teta and film. You talk 727 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: about magazines. Is a magazine something that is a goal 728 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: for fashion Bomb Daily? No. 729 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: I think print is done, Prince is done. I think 730 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 4: that fashion Bomb can keep going as it is. I 731 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 4: mean I think having like some sort of everybody's telling 732 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 4: me I should do a fashion Police style show, or 733 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: everybody's telling me we should do There's nothing like. 734 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: That anymore, No, not for us. It'll be good and 735 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: get like, oh my goodness, you should do that. 736 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: There's so many ideas that's funny, Like you I could 737 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: see ooh it's Lawrence. 738 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: I guess you is Laurens and like somebody else get together? 739 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Can you see that where is? Yes? 740 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm serious, there's I think fashion Bomb Daily as a 741 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 4: vehicle because of the red carpets, because of the litany 742 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: of celebrity events that we see, like there will always 743 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 4: be a place for that day to day you know, 744 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: your your fix of celebrity style and news. But I 745 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 4: think it's really about how do we expand upon this platform, 746 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 4: how do we continue you to bring you know, interesting 747 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 4: in new things, unique things to our followers. 748 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 749 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: That's why I can understand why you don't stop and 750 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 2: why you keep going because there is so much in 751 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: this space and so many voice to be feeled. 752 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: So I understand and you're created. We do need it. 753 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: Like black people in fashion, who's going to cover you know? 754 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 4: Like Vogue, Vogue, They've done it. I hate to keep 755 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 4: bringing it Vogue, God bless Folk. They're great, but they 756 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 4: don't cover Data Chiefs and Dusty or no. Like there 757 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: are people in our culture who are amazing. They have 758 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 4: great style. Yeah, and you know that's so true on 759 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 4: the platform for them hopefully. 760 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love that. As you're looking ahead to 761 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: everything that you want to do. What are you most 762 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: excited about my book? The book? Okay, can you tell us, 763 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: like what the book is going to be about? 764 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: Well, okay, did you do the twenty sixteen challenge the. 765 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen Yeah? I did, Yeah, I did, Yeah, yeah, 766 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: post it. 767 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 2: So it's actually shocked because you know, you go back 768 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: and be like, oh lord, like the it's always somebody 769 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 2: like what was I thinking? 770 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 3: Yeah? 771 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: I was actually proud of twenty sixteen. Crystal. 772 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: I wore a lot of superhero costumes. It was like 773 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 3: a lot of caps. I'm like, what are you doing? 774 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 3: What is that? What are you wearing? 775 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: I think I had a cake too. I gotta go 776 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: like a. 777 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 3: Few cape had. 778 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 4: It was like a jumpsuit with a cape. I'm like, Claire, 779 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 4: my friends are standing right there. I'm like, how could 780 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 4: you let me? 781 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: They probably had the house. 782 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 4: But I wrote my first book in twenty sixteen. I 783 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 4: self published, So this time I want to get a 784 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 4: publisher for it. But my first book was a memoir, 785 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 4: self help book called The Bomb Life, My Brand, my Terms, 786 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 4: and it was just about my origin story, you know, 787 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: how I started Fashion Bomb and if you want to 788 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: follow in my steps you can too, and some pictures, 789 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: et cetera. So there have been a lot of things 790 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: that have happened since then. I cut my locks, we 791 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: were disabled, and we got our age back, you know, 792 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 4: the Mett GALAXYFT Awards. A lot of things have happened, 793 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 4: so it's really like a part two. 794 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: I forgot about the lugs. 795 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: You forgot about my locks? Yes, yeah, I had blonde lots. 796 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: You sure did? 797 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: People still ask me about them. They're like, I missed 798 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: the locks. 799 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: I see it right now, Wow, Yeah. 800 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're stuck on those lots. In twenty sixteen was 801 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 4: our first award show. We gave an Award to Tiana 802 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 4: Taylor and Justine Sky and Tracy Reese's first award show 803 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 4: I did it with Ty Hunter and yeah, I love Tie. 804 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: So I'm like, we need to keep doing it. We 805 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 4: just need to keep going. Yeah, keep getting getting bigger 806 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,479 Speaker 4: and better. 807 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well. 808 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: We are excited to support you however we can and 809 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 2: the kids community. I'm excited for you. Thank you for 810 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 2: coming to City Down. 811 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, this episode was. 812 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 2: A reminder to always have the audacity to dream. Thank 813 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: you guys so much for tuning in to another episode 814 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. 815 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe, share this episode with someone who. 816 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: Could use a little positivity and is always Stay blessed, 817 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: stay encouraged, and keep it positive, Sweetie. 818 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next time.