WEBVTT - Ros Didn’t Do It

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<v Speaker 1>This is he said a yavi ho with Eric Winter

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<v Speaker 1>and Rodalin Fantaz.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, mister, how are you welcome back? He said a yabho.

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<v Speaker 2>Listeners another episode of me and Eric answering questions and

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<v Speaker 2>talking about whatever we talked about about stuff. I say.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of people that showed up a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago to Miami that were big listeners

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, and they showed up to support Palm

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<v Speaker 1>Republic and US at the signings of Total Wines. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you. That Miami trip

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. So many fans showed up and we again

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<v Speaker 1>proved that Palm Republic is doing great things and it's

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<v Speaker 1>moving through and Total Wines is very happy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just appreciate all of the fans support, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>becoming true, true Palm Republic support. It's not even just

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<v Speaker 1>because of the rookie or US or anything else. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great trip. Did the ron It's a Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of fun. Yeah, it was great. It

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<v Speaker 1>was great, And we have another trip now coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, Razin doesn't drink and a mocktail has

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<v Speaker 1>been something on our minds for a while, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to Minnesota to a distillery to do something samplings

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<v Speaker 1>that were don't want to reveal too much.

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<v Speaker 2>But guys, this is a true story. So for years,

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<v Speaker 2>even before mocktails were a thing, because now I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's becoming a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of mocktail bars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, celebrities that have mocktails. I've been talking about having

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<v Speaker 2>a mocktail for many, many, many years, even way before

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<v Speaker 2>Pan Republic. Par Republic just happened to come out first,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're so blessed that he's doing fantastic. But now

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<v Speaker 2>we finally found the distillery and the right partners, and

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<v Speaker 2>we go to Minnesota to do the third tasting and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be for flavors and it's all about

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<v Speaker 2>fruits that are very common in Puerto Rico where I

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<v Speaker 2>come from. I'm very excited. So I want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about you. Guys. Just talk talk to us about what

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel when it comes to not drinking alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>and having mocktails as an alternative. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go out and you want to feel sexy

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<v Speaker 2>and cool and and feel like you're social but not

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<v Speaker 2>have to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>And in a fun way kind of like our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talked about the fact that you can mix it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a drinker, you can mix this and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a it could be a mocktail, but also

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<v Speaker 1>it could be a mixer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Palm Republic with a little a little splash

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<v Speaker 2>of our mocktail is going to besh. So we just

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<v Speaker 2>went we went to we went to a dinner in

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<v Speaker 2>Miami with a Palm Republic group and Eric. Eric asked

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<v Speaker 2>for a specific drink that was Palm Republic. But what

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<v Speaker 2>was it? It was? It wasn't It wasn't all fashions.

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<v Speaker 1>Press Martini. No, the oh the old Cuban, Cuban, old Cuban,

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<v Speaker 1>which you swore was guava, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't drink at all. And he says, just, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, this is delicious. I want you to try it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tried that thing and it had like guava.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told her the wag the waiter, this has

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<v Speaker 2>guava and he's like, no, no, not at all. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going on, you don't understand. This has guava. And he's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so delish.

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<v Speaker 1>Got drunk.

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<v Speaker 2>But because one of the mark says is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have guava, I have. If nobody's Palm Republic drink alcohol,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have to start

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<v Speaker 2>drinking a drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>For that old Cuban.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a phenomenal drinking. I think it was brought out

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<v Speaker 1>that little bit of a flavor and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tastes like well. But anyway, so we did that and

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<v Speaker 2>then we're gonna go to Minnesota for that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I go to Puerto Rico to record a second music

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<v Speaker 2>video with the leads of my movie because they're all

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal singers and it's going to be so much fun, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and what else is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Also for all of you that are going to be coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know a lot of reached out about

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<v Speaker 1>coming to meet me in France for the con when

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<v Speaker 1>we do the signing and asking about Palm Republic. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be I'm allowed now to bring merch, So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna set this up with the con where you

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<v Speaker 1>can go on potentially it hasn't fully been flushed out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but be able to pick out merch what you want

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<v Speaker 1>and I can bring it there and you can buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys can be set up.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go to France, but Eric took me

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<v Speaker 2>out of the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes me out of the trip. You took yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out of the trip. But it's a very quick picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Look forward to meeting everybody I know. We have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a question here from actually from from France,

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<v Speaker 2>from France. He lives in the south of France, Marion.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're friends in real life with your co stars,

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<v Speaker 2>does the friendship make your intimate scenes easier or more

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to film?

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<v Speaker 1>I think easier. I don't know. Don't you think easier.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're friends with the person?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got all your love interests. You've been You've

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<v Speaker 1>been friends with the most acquaintances.

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<v Speaker 2>I have become really really good friends with some, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have become friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's worse if you're an enemy, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get along.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people say an enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I know people first hand as actors

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<v Speaker 1>who couldn't stand their co stars and had to be

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<v Speaker 1>love interests, that that's probably tough and that would be pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Like how do you do that? That would that'd be painful?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean One thing that people don't understand is that

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<v Speaker 1>love and hate are very powerful emotions, right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could literally despise your co star and fans will call

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<v Speaker 1>it chemistry. It's notorious with the show Moonlighting that Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis and Sybil Shepherd did not get along. It happened

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<v Speaker 1>with the best best chemistry on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with Justin and and Blakely that is like

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<v Speaker 2>the chemistry was off the charts, and apparently they don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>To learn a lawsuit exactly. You saw that movie. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It I liked it a lot. People like talking a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it a lot. I don't know if those

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<v Speaker 1>two truly hated each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that she was very attracted to him, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that started to develop.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's it's common knowledge that you can

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<v Speaker 1>really care about somebody or really as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>as a friend or not and developed and have chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>portrayed on the screen. Because again, I think hate is

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<v Speaker 1>a powerful emotion that people don't see the difference on screen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can be give me, like I said, most

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<v Speaker 1>of your love and I think you've been friends with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you've ever come back to me and

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<v Speaker 1>said you didn't like somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I mean I've been I've like some more

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<v Speaker 2>than others.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been in situations where it's been uncomfortable and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been awkward. I think you've told me stories. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to say the actor, but I feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>told me stories where you were uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not always comfortable because I listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that part of it. I'm talking about the person

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<v Speaker 1>like they made you uncomfortable, but you had to go

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<v Speaker 1>through with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to go through it. Listen. It's usually

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<v Speaker 2>not comfortable, guys, even even with with somebody that you

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<v Speaker 2>like that is a friend. It's a very intimate thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're like, it's not I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you really like the person and you fancy the

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<v Speaker 2>person sexually. You know, then I guess it's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, it's like a free pass, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, with actors, there's nothing exciting. When

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<v Speaker 2>you have twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you have so many people looking at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, even a close set, right, it's close close.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I always love when they go, it's a close set.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's not a yeah, it's oh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to I wanted to bring something up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm doing this very respectfully because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine texting me the other day saying, Bros,

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<v Speaker 2>have you checked TikTok? They hate you, like like all

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<v Speaker 2>the fans of the rookie. They think, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening with your storyline, that the breakup and going

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<v Speaker 2>back together and the whole story about changed for getting

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<v Speaker 2>back together or not. And it's like everybody is blaming

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<v Speaker 2>you for them not being together because you gave your

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<v Speaker 2>husband an ultimatum yes. And I was like, what I can,

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<v Speaker 2>so I go and I'm gone, go, so let me

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<v Speaker 2>just go.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think Ross is responsible for Ross and Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>breaking up on friends? It happens like fans break up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, couples break up all the time and guys.

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<v Speaker 2>As I went in and I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>see what they're saying, I was shocked and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, like hate hate, and I'm like, should

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<v Speaker 2>I say something? But I know that if I engage

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<v Speaker 2>and I answer one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. And I was like you can't engage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, I cant.

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<v Speaker 1>Been on The Rookie. Roslin's like a full supporter of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. She's good friends with Melissa. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>could not be a bigger supporter of our show. Do

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<v Speaker 1>fans I will say this, Do fans take it too

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<v Speaker 1>far on social media and say things that are hurtful?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent. We've talked about it before on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>People have a difficult time separating acting and reality. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of all this is is these are two

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<v Speaker 1>characters that are given scripts by writers that have to

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<v Speaker 1>act out scenes. She does it all the time Devius Maids.

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<v Speaker 1>Her character is probably the most sexual character on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>She was always in a romance, sleeping around doing whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl was a go get her if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome And you know it's still acting. This is not reality.

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<v Speaker 1>These aren't real couples. So she I can speak firsthand

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<v Speaker 1>rather than it's been nothing but supportive of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's provided me a life to live in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>be with the kids. Unfortunately, she travels a lot. She

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to come back on The Rookie. She almost came

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<v Speaker 1>back two different seasons. It just didn't work out with

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<v Speaker 1>her schedule when she was doing Fantasy Island and also

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<v Speaker 1>something else. So, I mean, guys, don't believe everything you

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<v Speaker 1>see one.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have never called any writer on the Rookie

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<v Speaker 2>saying I have an issue with this. Never in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I will never never. It doesn't exist in my universe.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok also said I owned a ranch in New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 1>which wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It says all kinds of things. It's a I'm going no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm reading no, guys. It really affected me and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, let me just snap out of

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<v Speaker 2>it because it is what it is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>while my conscience is clear, I think, and I've said

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<v Speaker 2>it many times, the testament of how incredible that storyline

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<v Speaker 2>has been conducted and how it has resonated with the

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<v Speaker 2>audience and people love it, love it. Everywhere we go,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody loves it and that's huge, and I think that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I'm assuming you guys are going to get

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<v Speaker 2>back together. I hope I get back together. So I

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<v Speaker 2>had to stop they stop blaming me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I can't. I mean, I can't speak to that regardless.

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<v Speaker 1>But all I can say is that Roz had nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with anything I need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do with the show anyway, So anyway, I would laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at I wanted to clarify that because I'm going on

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<v Speaker 2>this is the last thing. I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the first time I've ever heard of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you did because you've never even told

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<v Speaker 1>me that this whole incident took place.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I had no idea. And then I looked, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, should I look? And then I started

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<v Speaker 2>looking and I was like, I'm going to pass out

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<v Speaker 2>right now. But then, but guys, it's okay anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Next, I don't know if we answered your question fully, Miriam,

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<v Speaker 1>but what was a question we did?

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question from Andrea, who's also from France. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>struggling about a breakup that happened many years ago. This

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<v Speaker 1>relationship was toxic. I was physically and verbally abused by him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm now thirty, still not confident about myself and it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to trust another man. I feel like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a shell and can't feel any emotions. What would be

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<v Speaker 1>your advice to get through this? Wow? First off, let

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<v Speaker 1>me start by saying I'm so sorry that you could

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<v Speaker 1>even have to go through something like this. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you raz speak to this. You have never experienced

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<v Speaker 1>physical abuse, but I think you've been in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>where you felt verbally abused. Maybe you can speak to

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<v Speaker 1>this this listener, and how to get through that when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a verbal abuse, like somebody so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Verbal verbally abused in a relationship that was toxic and

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<v Speaker 1>now she's having trouble getting back out there and trusting

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<v Speaker 1>men again.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, it's listen. I okay, let me let me let

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<v Speaker 2>me organize my thoughts my relationship before, not boyfriend, my

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<v Speaker 2>ex husband, because I want to make sure it was

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<v Speaker 2>not never physical. It was never verbal to the point

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<v Speaker 2>of like my dad, Okay, my dad is very verbally abusive.

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<v Speaker 2>What comes out of his mouth is allowed, is just insult.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty bad. What I experienced was somebody much much older,

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<v Speaker 2>smarter than me, that it was more like emotional in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of like maniating, manipulating, you know, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have the tools or the maturity to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with what was being done.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't calling your names or screaming at you or or.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we will have screaming, but I'm also I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>pretty loud and I have a bad temper, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was a screaming badge was it was mutual because I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in a very volatile, bolatile up bringing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where my mom my father will say something and my

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<v Speaker 2>mom will top it and it was like a pissing context,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So to me having that kind of dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>of somebody saying, what the f da da da, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like, what have yeah? You know, So it was

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. So it's sad because it took

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people around me to tell me this

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<v Speaker 2>is not healthy or normal. This is very toxic. And

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times I was like, what do you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's okay because it was normal to me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It took a lot of reading and therapy books, god,

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<v Speaker 2>you know to understand no, Russ, this is not normal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually not even love. You need to break that cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been it's been an ongoing demon battle for

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<v Speaker 2>me throughout the years to break habits and to break

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<v Speaker 2>cycles and to be like, I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a relationship like my parents have, and listen, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad because both of my parents are alive, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom listens to this podcast, doesn't understand a lot

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<v Speaker 2>because her English is not great, And I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt her because my mom did and it's still

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<v Speaker 2>doing the best she could and she can given her circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and as a mom, she's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>So so the.

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<v Speaker 2>Advice listen, you need to you need to snap out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And it's brutal to understand to go through physical, verbal,

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<v Speaker 2>emotional abuse, but you owe it to yourself to break

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<v Speaker 2>the cycle, and you owe it to yourself to love

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<v Speaker 2>yourself enough to understand it wasn't your fault. This was

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<v Speaker 2>an experience that life has given you because you need

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<v Speaker 2>to learn something. When you're in it, it's so cloudy,

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<v Speaker 2>so muddy, you don't get it. Even post being in it.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a long time to realize there's a learning

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<v Speaker 2>that I need to that I need to pay attention here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's about yourself to become stronger, become more assertive,

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<v Speaker 2>to respect yourself enough to know I did not deserve that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not my fault. I'm gonna have to move on

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<v Speaker 2>and listen, listen. I just went to this man that

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<v Speaker 2>is a healer, and he said, people get so caught

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<v Speaker 2>up with the past and the future, and the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is that none of that is real. The pass is done.

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<v Speaker 2>The future you have no control. It's always about the present.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're able to get out of it, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know it takes women many, many years. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you're strong enough and smart enough and courageous enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I am breaking out of this and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to go solo, you have to find it in

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<v Speaker 2>You have to change that channel and understand, this happened

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<v Speaker 2>to me. It doesn't define me. It doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to happen again. And now I have the

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<v Speaker 2>clarity and the awareness to recognize recognize the signs. So

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<v Speaker 2>when the other dude comes into your life, because you

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<v Speaker 2>went through it, the check marks are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>so evident. You know. It's like, is what happened to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go through what I went through to

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<v Speaker 2>understand I don't want to be in love with my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I married my dad, so I don't want and I

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<v Speaker 2>never respected it, so I don't want that. So it

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<v Speaker 2>took me going through it to know, Okay, oh I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, this is not what I want for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the next relationship was a little better, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the other one was glorious. And he's the one

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<v Speaker 2>that prepared me for Eric, because by the time I

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<v Speaker 2>met Eric, I had already I broke the cycle, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew exactly you know what, I know what good

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<v Speaker 2>love is. I know that there doesn't It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be about disrespect or competition or jealousy or or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be about seeing this man thrive with

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<v Speaker 2>me and next to me. And it took again. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>therapy is important, reading, reading, reading, reading, I had I

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<v Speaker 2>read so many books at Giane lavan zandt is A.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an incredible writer that it was instrumental for me

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to break the cycle. So that's my advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well said I mean Andrew. I think she summed

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<v Speaker 1>it all up. Put you owe to yourself to find

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<v Speaker 1>your love that's real and important to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So and pay attention to the signs because people manifest

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<v Speaker 2>themselves day one. The problem is that we just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to We don't want to see it because you're

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<v Speaker 2>physically attracted to the person, because you think is because

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<v Speaker 2>you all habits come back and you're like, Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>so jealous. Oh, my god, he loves me. Be very

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<v Speaker 2>shrewd Is that a word? Very shrewd? About recognizing the

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<v Speaker 2>signs they will reveal themselves in day one. I look

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<v Speaker 2>at a mannerism, a conversation, a word. It's pretty evident,

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty evident. You just have to just open those eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Just open those eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said. We're going to our last listener question from Kate. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fourteen. I have a question. My parents have always

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<v Speaker 1>been strict on the no boy's rule, not even guy friends.

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<v Speaker 1>There is this guy that has liked me for three years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've secretly liked him and just recently told him.

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<v Speaker 1>I also told my parents. I also told him my

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<v Speaker 1>parents wouldn't allow it, and he said he would wait

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<v Speaker 1>until I was ready. But I've realized over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days how much I like him. Should I date

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<v Speaker 1>in secret or risk making him wait to respect my parents' wishes. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a tough and very real question. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you my two cents rather as you could chime in.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in facing your parents with honesty and truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know your full dynamic with your parents. I

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<v Speaker 1>think dating in secret can be very complicated and could

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<v Speaker 1>come back to really be harmful in a situation, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for the two of you, maybe for your relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>your parents, and I think you'll never get the full

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<v Speaker 1>experience of that relationship. You don't like the guy, why no,

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<v Speaker 1>any guy. She's not allowed to there's no boy rule.

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<v Speaker 2>How old is she?

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen? OK? Have you been here for any of this conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. So, Katie, what I would say, or Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would say is if again I don't hear

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic, but if it's possible to talk to your parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that probably sounds scary as heck, just sharing

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<v Speaker 1>with them. You don't have to make it specific about

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<v Speaker 1>this boy, but just in general about this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>no boys and how it makes you feel. How you

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<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit trapped, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go against their wishes, and you don't want to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything behind their back. You want to be honest, and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have an open relationship with your parents

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<v Speaker 1>that you can share how you're feeling. Maybe start with

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<v Speaker 1>that and just see if little by little you can

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<v Speaker 1>get them to open up to the idea that you

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<v Speaker 1>might have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy friend and Listen. I think for any kid that

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<v Speaker 2>is fourteen that has very mature parents that challenge that

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<v Speaker 2>are so strict, I'm assuming that it is nerve wracking

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<v Speaker 2>for you to say I'm just going to have an

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<v Speaker 2>adult conversation with my parents. But I think it's super

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<v Speaker 2>crucial that you actually go over and say, guys, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to be very honest with you, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you I want to do it with love and with respect,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope you understand me. So just hear me

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<v Speaker 2>out and say, I know we have strict rules and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys don't want me dating nobody anytime soon. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think at my age, all my friends, it's very

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<v Speaker 2>normal that we start liking boys. And I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything behind your back. So it's your choice.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like there's a compromise here in

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<v Speaker 1>a way. Listen, I will give a lot of kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to this young man that you're talking with us at school,

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<v Speaker 1>because he told you wait for you, and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are very young, so the fact that he's being that

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<v Speaker 1>patient is incredible for him. So maybe there's even a

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<v Speaker 1>compromise where you're sharing with your parents. Listen, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>asking to have quote, you know, full blown dates with

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<v Speaker 1>this person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have secrets.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have secrets. But if there's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I like and I want to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>more as a friend, it would be great if you

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<v Speaker 1>two could establish that, whether it's over the phone, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to a movie with other friends or dinner

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<v Speaker 1>with other friends, or whatever that case may be, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's just with your parents going and hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>but there's obviously no they don't have to even hold hands,

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<v Speaker 1>but just getting being allowed to get to know the

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<v Speaker 1>person better since he already has the patience to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you could find the middle ground where

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in a full blown relationship but you're allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to get to know somebody better.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to talk to them, I think, and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be shocked, but I think behind closed doors,

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<v Speaker 2>your parents are going to be incredibly impressed by you

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<v Speaker 2>that you took the time to actually go over and say, guys, please,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have secrets from you. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to keep secrets from you. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything against your will. I don't want to be grounded.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. I don't want you, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you guys to be mad at me. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's this person that is very respectful that I want.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like for you guys to even meet. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that I want to be boyfriend boyfriend girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to feel restricted because this is

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. And this is what parents have to understand.

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<v Speaker 2>The more they tell you no, the more curious you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. And I think it's very typical for

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager when the parents say no, we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. You're like, h but I think I like him.

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<v Speaker 2>And the more they tell you no, the more you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like him. It's almost like it's crazy. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>human nature exactly if they say no. Like I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen. I think it was Miki signerro Rade.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the point I was. I think it was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen and a half and I like this kid in

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<v Speaker 2>Puerto Rico and my mom was it's a no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a no. The guy was not allowed to even be

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<v Speaker 2>near our street for whatever reason. My mom was like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a bad seed. No, no, no. It was brutal

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<v Speaker 2>and I liked him, but it's not like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I like him. But the second she said that, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, now I really like him. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half of hell. And you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I did. I did it secretly.

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<v Speaker 1>Which, by the way, I'm sure did make it not

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<v Speaker 1>work out. And it's complicated, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was massy, it was it was ridiculous and and

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<v Speaker 2>and I and I often think about it because I

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<v Speaker 2>just go, wow, this is crazy that that my mom

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<v Speaker 2>put me through that, And when it would happen as

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<v Speaker 2>easy as like, yeah, let me let me meet him,

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<v Speaker 2>but for whatever reason, she was like, my mom was

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<v Speaker 2>really good. She did it a lot. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom has a third eye, so my mom was very

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<v Speaker 2>very specific about who she thought was going to enter

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<v Speaker 2>her kingdom or not. But then what happened. She pushed

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<v Speaker 2>me to do it behind her back and it was

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<v Speaker 2>so unnecessary, so unnecessary. So just talk to your parents.

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