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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is Not Afraid of the Turk.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Girls.

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Speaker 1: That all what up? Boys? Hey, Dan, full house. Just

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Speaker 1: like when you were in Vegas, full House had cards Campbell. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know you don't. Mark Seiler's back. Welcome back, buddy,

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Speaker 1: glad to be here. It feels like ages since I've

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Speaker 1: sat in here with you. I don't know how long

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Speaker 1: it's been, he promised the Siciler being here with double

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Speaker 1: barrel fist pumps. Oh yeah. Initially I said revolvers. I

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Speaker 1: know you don't. You don't listen to the show, so

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Speaker 1: but I said that you'd be back with two revolvers

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Speaker 1: shooting when you returned, and then I downgraded it to

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Speaker 1: avoid a suspension to two fists. I'd be like the

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Speaker 1: first time I ever made that motion, So that was

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Speaker 1: kind of a risk. You really are like the last

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Speaker 1: guy that would ever pump your fist for anything. I

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Speaker 1: feel like, by the way, I listened to the show

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Speaker 1: because I hear the show, because I am involved in it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, listen, back off man. We've got a great

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Speaker 1: show today, So get excited. We are going to this

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Speaker 1: is our big week five preview show. People get very

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Speaker 1: excited for the week five preview show just because the

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Speaker 1: way we do it, we just break down all the

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Speaker 1: games and we and we cut right through all the malarkey.

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Speaker 1: You will be excited for week six to or is

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Speaker 1: this just maybe two week five preview? If if week

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Speaker 1: four is any indication, week six will also be. There

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Speaker 1: will be a wild celebration when people listen to this

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Speaker 1: because it's gonna be so great. Uh So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go through all those games also because maybe at some

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Speaker 1: point we'll mix it into the middle of the show

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Speaker 1: because it's something we have to touch on. Greg Roseatal

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Speaker 1: known as the Boss, had his first not as first

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Speaker 1: QB Index post, but his first one where he broke

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Speaker 1: down the essentially the power rankings one to thirty two

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Speaker 1: dropped him. So we're gonna talk about Greg's list a

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Speaker 1: little bit, one that Chris Westling was completely on board with,

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Speaker 1: almost suspiciously so no qualms whatsoever with the list. I

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Speaker 1: his list, just because it doesn't seem like our podcast,

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Speaker 1: so I I you know, my answer to that is

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Speaker 1: should we stick it up like other places and just

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Speaker 1: generate false debates? I have some issues with the QB

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Speaker 1: issues with Greg's work as well, so there would definitely

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Speaker 1: be some real conversation. I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: Lackey told Chris that he had to drum up false debate.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know where do where do we usually

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Speaker 1: get this stuff on Twitter? Oh? You know what? By

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Speaker 1: the way, that I wasn't gonna bring this up, but

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Speaker 1: no snitches get stitches, but you will bring it up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I made a joke about the colts, uh punter what's

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Speaker 1: his name, Pat McPAT McAfee, and all right, there's kind

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Speaker 1: of disrespect, you know what. And someone had to report

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Speaker 1: it back to Pat McVie. And then he dropped the

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Speaker 1: ultimate Twitter bomb where you really don't recover from, and

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Speaker 1: he says, I don't know who Dan Hanses is. That's

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Speaker 1: how it was NL Media. I wasn't even involved in that,

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Speaker 1: but I went in and pre emptively blocked that guy

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Speaker 1: just for that move. Pat McBee or the snitch. The snitch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know what, just listen, listeners, we love you,

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Speaker 1: you love us. We're all on this trust tree together.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it in house. Sometimes sometimes it it's good

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Speaker 1: the Stitcher and the best of two thousand thirteen iTunes award.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you keep it in house. It's like an

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Speaker 1: Italian family. A lot of beef right now with the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, between this and the move to

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Speaker 1: tried and true sports radio method to getting more listeners.

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Speaker 1: It's called punching up. So that's what Damashek is doing,

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Speaker 1: and that's what moved the sticks and doing. They're punching

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Speaker 1: We had to settle that, all right. So yeah, so

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Speaker 1: let's get into before we do anything, Let's let's go

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Speaker 1: to the Thursday night game of course in Lambeau, the

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Speaker 1: I wish we had a fun game to talk about,

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Speaker 1: but we really don't. This game was over by halftime.

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Speaker 1: The Packers dropped the Minnesota Vikings forty two to ten.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Oh it's not him, it's everything around on them,

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Speaker 1: and they do have problems around him. But if this

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Speaker 1: go through as we always do every week, we we

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Speaker 1: highlight the games that we call our here opis when

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Speaker 1: only one of the around the NFL team picked a

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Speaker 1: certain team to win a game going against the field,

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Speaker 1: and we call this segment defend your hero, Defend your hero.

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Speaker 1: All right, handsome Hank, Thank you, buddy. All Right, so

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Speaker 1: we'll start. Why don't we start with the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: who are hosting the Tennessee Titans coming off their bye week.

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Speaker 1: The Titans, who you know sad to say, uh if

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Speaker 1: you missed Wednesday show mark, they were forked. They're out there.

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Speaker 1: They're no longer uh in contention for a playoff spot

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Speaker 1: in our minds, so they're not exactly a relevant team.

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Speaker 1: And now the Browns get to come off and bye

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Speaker 1: and play that game against the Titans, team that I

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Speaker 1: guess is gonna have Jake Locker back, But who's getting

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Speaker 1: excited about that? Even you would think this would be

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Speaker 1: a game we would all agree on the Browns potentially,

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Speaker 1: but no, Chris Wesley goes with the Titans, and you

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Speaker 1: and Greg I think you set it downstairs. West has

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Speaker 1: gone full heel with the Browns. He likes to poke Mark.

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Speaker 1: He poking the bear, a little teddy bear. It's so

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Speaker 1: you troll so hard West defend your hero. That whole

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Speaker 1: narrative that you guys have laid out could not be

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Speaker 1: any further from the truth. The Browns to me are

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Speaker 1: like the Rams, the Raiders, maybe the Jaguars, several teams

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Speaker 1: that haven't been successful in a decade, and until they

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Speaker 1: are successful, I'm probably gonna default to the other team

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Speaker 1: when it's a game where it's it's a pick them game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but don't you think the Browns have looked better than

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Speaker 1: the Titans this year? Significant? Yes, And if they were

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Speaker 1: playing at Cleveland, I would take them. What about the

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Speaker 1: Titans makes you think they're ready to win a game

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Speaker 1: against anyone? Nothing? Nothing about the Titans makes me think

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Speaker 1: they're they're ready. So you think this is essentially you're

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Speaker 1: saying this is a matchup between two bad teams and

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Speaker 1: what somebody's gotta win. That's what I'm saying. Yan Hoyer,

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Speaker 1: who is strong defense. Brian Hoyer, who you left off

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Speaker 1: your UH top ten surprise you put him an honorable mention.

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Speaker 1: I have this stat. UH has thrown a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty six straight passes without and I n t that's

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Speaker 1: the longest stretch in the NFL. Philip Rivers is thirty

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Speaker 1: nine passes behind Hoyer and then on the flip side.

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Speaker 1: UH a negative thing for the Browns and their defense,

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Speaker 1: as we talked about it Wednesday, is really what's held

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Speaker 1: him back and they're wanted to start Joe Hayden. UH

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Speaker 1: has given up a passer rating of one fifty five

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Speaker 1: point three, third highest in the NFL amongst cornerbacks at

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Speaker 1: least snaps played. Uh Mark, I'll ask you you've watched

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Speaker 1: his games very closely? What what happened to Joe Hayden?

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Speaker 1: Is he not healthy? And how much how big is

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Speaker 1: that for the Browns defense. I think he's healthy. Hayden

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the better examples of some of the

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Speaker 1: new rules on the cornerbacks affecting his play. He he

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Speaker 1: was he thrived as a very physical cornerback for years,

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Speaker 1: and that's how we shut down bigger guys like A. J.

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Speaker 1: Green when he had success again them. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's I'm not saying it's just that he

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Speaker 1: he also hasn't had a tendency in the past to

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Speaker 1: give up big plays in big moments along Hill Hill

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Speaker 1: a strong fifty seven minutes than one minute that undoes everything. Well,

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Speaker 1: part of the reason his numbers are so bad is

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Speaker 1: they've only played three games, and in one of those games,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, you know, went up and down the field

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Speaker 1: with Hayden on his back. I don't know what more

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Speaker 1: Hayden could have done in that game. He was all

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Speaker 1: over Graham and Graham's making great catches that he got

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Speaker 1: like eight passes. Yeah, Wesley, and I mean I I

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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Wesley picking between what you

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Speaker 1: see is two relatively vanilla teams, the home team, I

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Speaker 1: don't have an issue there. You you seem relatively comfortable

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Speaker 1: to be nestled in last place in our picks. Well,

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Speaker 1: pick against a team that beat your Super Bowl pick

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Speaker 1: West not. I just want to know you've seen nothing

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Speaker 1: from Cleveland. I what what is it that you've seen

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Speaker 1: from Tennessee. Give me something that you like about the Titans?

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Speaker 1: How many wins to the Browns here who they beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs who slaughtered the Patriots. So we could play

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Speaker 1: this back and forth all day, and I'll remind you

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Speaker 1: it's week four. Let's check the standings at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. That's how things work, alright. So that

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Speaker 1: is this is a great show down for Sunday in

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Speaker 1: the newsroom. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm gonna sit

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Speaker 1: back and enjoy it all. So, yes, were the the

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Speaker 1: Browns against the Titans? Alright? Moving on another hero pick.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons, who have looked pretty great, uh, pretty

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Speaker 1: damn great at home in the Georgia Dome this season,

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Speaker 1: some really nice wins where their offense looked almost unstoppable,

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Speaker 1: have not looked that great on the road, especially in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota in Week four, where they gave up I believe

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Speaker 1: five fifty yards of total offense. Uh. They head to

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Speaker 1: the meadow Lands to pay a Giant team that has

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and Eli Manning that has really played great football.

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Speaker 1: Last two weeks of Giants have bounced back after a

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Speaker 1: bad start they Yet there's Mark Sessler. He says, forget

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Speaker 1: about it. Forget things like stats, forget things like trends.

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00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons are due for a big road win,

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Speaker 1: so he picked them. So I ask you, Mark Sesler,

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Speaker 1: to defend your hero. Well, I don't know. It was

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Speaker 1: very late at night, and I I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I was going left or right picking teams, and I

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Speaker 1: picked the Falcons. And but why, well, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the fact that Matt Ryan has

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Speaker 1: not won a game outdoors in his last date attempts,

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Speaker 1: and that concerns me on some level. But in a

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Speaker 1: spot last week at least, all I'll say, though, is

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Speaker 1: that the Falcons are going to be a sneaky team

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Speaker 1: To maybe win that division or get into the playoffs

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Speaker 1: as a wild card, you gotta go on the road

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Speaker 1: and win a couple of these games. This is one

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Speaker 1: that they have to take care of business the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants are are a much improved team

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Speaker 1: from where they were earlier in the year, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, less than a month ago, so that's not

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Speaker 1: that long. But this may be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a battle for that final playoffs. Matt Ryan has lost

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Speaker 1: eight straight starts and games played outdoors. You don't say,

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Speaker 1: and that was that the same statue some emphasis to that,

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Speaker 1: thank you. This was one of mys. This was my

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Speaker 1: power pick this week, and I never picked the h

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Speaker 1: I realized about halfway through that sentence, like why why

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Speaker 1: is that something bliar Mark said at sixty eight seconds earlier.

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00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: The Giants have disassembled their last two opponents. They're playing

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Speaker 1: really well, and the Falcons do not play well outdoors

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Speaker 1: as she saw in Minnesota last week. How about this one?

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00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: By like Eli nine and seven in October, we put

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Speaker 1: winning percentage best of any month in his career. That

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Speaker 1: means nothing. Said this week that the Falcons have the

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Speaker 1: worst defensive talent in the league, which I found interesting

554
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: because his brother in law coaches the Falcons, So maybe

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Speaker 1: you get a little bit of an insight into what

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Speaker 1: Mike Smith is thinking about. This is the defense that

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Speaker 1: he's coaching. Given up five d and fifty eight yards

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Speaker 1: to Teddy Bridgewater and Jerick McKinnon. They have no pass rush.

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Speaker 1: That's why I can't really get into your hero pick, Mark.

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Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs are hitting the road to the

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Speaker 1: four Downers. Just played all home games this year. Is

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Speaker 1: that what's happening that? It feels like to me? They're

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Speaker 1: at Levi Stadium, the Chiefs coming off a great win

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots on Monday NET. Now they head to

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Speaker 1: San Francisco to face the Niners. It's hard to make

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Speaker 1: any sense of the Niners right now. As we all know,

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Speaker 1: they came out with that win against the Eagles this

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Speaker 1: past week. Uh. Greg Rosenthal, perhaps because it was so

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Speaker 1: close to home. His Patriots, with a team on the

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Speaker 1: on the losing end against the Chiefs, is sticking with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. He thinks they're gonna put together another big

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Speaker 1: win and and announce themselves as one of the true

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Speaker 1: early surprise teams in the NFL. They've been one of

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Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL the last three weeks

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Speaker 1: in a row. Tell me the result that wasn't impressive.

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Speaker 1: They go into Denver and the outgame, the broadcast wasn't

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Speaker 1: that impressive. The Broncos took their foot off the game

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00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: they played. They played them straight up. You watch that

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Speaker 1: game and they look like to even teams. Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: goes to in that game, they the gas pedal, they

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Speaker 1: moved the ball the whole game, that Broncos only had

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Speaker 1: seven drives. It wasn't the Chiefs defense didn't particularly play well.

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Speaker 1: I think you're the one going full heel here on

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Well, that might be part of it. Hey,

585
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Speaker 1: I I believe in something in the in the forty

586
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Speaker 1: Niners haven't showed me enough to believe otherwise. Colin Kaepernick

587
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: is not playing well. I think Alex Smith right now,

588
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Speaker 1: he's Alex Smith is playing better than Colin Kaepernick. If

589
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Speaker 1: that's true, well, then a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 1: they got rid of it. To give Colin Kaepernick credit

591
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Speaker 1: for one thing. Though, he's messing up some plays, but

592
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Speaker 1: he's making some very hard plays. To me, he makes

593
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Speaker 1: three or four wow plays that no one else can

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Speaker 1: make every game. But he also just misses throws, He

595
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: doesn't see receivers. He he seems like you know, they

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Speaker 1: talk about quarterbacks the game slows down for them. The

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00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: game has not slowed down for college I don't like

598
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: last very fast at home last week again, another home

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Speaker 1: game in a stadium named after the Para Jeans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the game clock three times. I think it was right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I think that the West is

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00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: correct that what Kaepernick continues to do some things that

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Speaker 1: only Kaepernick can do in a good way. But he

604
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Speaker 1: almost seemed to be a calmer quarterback at the line

605
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Speaker 1: of scrimmage in year one when he was starting. Then. Now,

606
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Speaker 1: I never would have thought that that. Both West and

607
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Speaker 1: I and I don't know if you guys agree that

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith right now is playing better than Kaepernick. It's incredible. Well,

609
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Speaker 1: I think Smith is one of those guys that everyone

610
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: the book has been written on him, and people are

611
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: going to be real slow to change their opinion. But

612
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Speaker 1: with what is around him, it is amazing what they

613
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Speaker 1: did last week. With what they have at wide receiver,

614
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: which is essentially nothing, that around him is getting a

615
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: lot better. Though Travis Kelsey's he's the Davis is a playmaker.

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00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Nile Davis is a playmaker too. They've got some interesting talent.

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00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Now for the first time in a while, your offensive

618
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: line has settled down. At least they had a good

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Speaker 1: game in Miami, a road game that they won convincingly.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying this team, I think, on balance, has

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Speaker 1: been better than the forty niners this year. I think

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Speaker 1: they have the better quarterback and Alex Smith is going

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Speaker 1: to get a little revenge on the organization that gave

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Speaker 1: him up. Alright, how about a J Jenkins revenge? Is

625
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: he getting out of the field, he's starting revenge. I

626
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: I grabbed millions from you, produced nothing, and then continue

627
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: my career somewhere else. What that was? That was similar

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Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks ago, Mark, when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about Ryan Fitzpatrick getting revenge on the Bills for giving

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Speaker 1: him a sixty million dollar contract. Well, by the way,

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Speaker 1: after we you know, pointed the finger at me saying

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Speaker 1: that I was completely incorrect, there a narrative comes out

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00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: that Ryan Fitzpatrick said he very badly wanted to win

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Speaker 1: that game because he felt disrespected by Buffalo, the city,

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Speaker 1: and the state of New York. About that Harvard getting

636
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: pumped up. He's a maniac, he is, alright, before we

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: made me like him? Oh sorry, we go no no.

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Speaker 1: I I always like the Amish rifle. But seeing that

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Speaker 1: in the Passion kind of reminds me of Greg on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday morning at about right before kickoff, when he

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Speaker 1: gathers us in an alleyway. He's like a bumper car.

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Speaker 1: He's just bouncing off people. Minus Gregg's inability to grow

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Speaker 1: facial hair. Is that true? I've never seen it. Johnson

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Speaker 1: going on right now, All right, before we get to

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Speaker 1: the rest of the games, let's take a quick time

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Speaker 1: out to go, uh, you know, talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Greg's QB Index, which was released today on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com. Uh slash around the NFL, in which Greg

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Speaker 1: can even go slash a t L. Still that will work,

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll revert back. I don't know what they call that.

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Speaker 1: What about NFL dot com slash news that wouldn't work?

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Speaker 1: What work? Holy crap. So Greg's top thirty two quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: as I look for it on our website, I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited to find it. Let's go through. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: the top shelf. You you broke a six pack of

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00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks one through six. Philip Rivers the number one,

657
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to Matt Ryan, Andrew Luck at four, Aaron

658
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Speaker 1: Rodgers at five, and Drew's Drew Brees at six. West

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Speaker 1: you've already said you agree with everything here, anything that

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Speaker 1: maybe you were thinking, maybe that's top six. We gotta

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Speaker 1: take her with it a little bit. If there was

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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: one thing I would I would wonder how Breeze is

663
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Speaker 1: playing better than big Ben or Stanford really too good

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Speaker 1: point between Breeze and the two of him, that's fair,

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Speaker 1: and I mean he got a little extra name value.

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00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: He maybe should be down. Breeze played very well in

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Speaker 1: Week one against Atlanta. He had an unbelievable second half

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Speaker 1: against the Browns. He played pretty well against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I think overall he hasn't been bad. He hasn't. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you look at Drew Brees and say he's

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Speaker 1: had a bad season or anything like, well not if

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Speaker 1: he's at number X. There you go. This won't be

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: the first time name recognition helps the quarterback on this list.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that's alright, so mark you okay with

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Speaker 1: that top six? Yeah, this is based off of where

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Speaker 1: we are right now. This is just supposed to be

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, and that's it. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think big Ben, what more could Big Ben have done

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00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: at this point to get into the top five? Won

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Speaker 1: more games? But that's not his fault necessarily. Well, actually, yeah,

681
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: because he's had he had the bad game in Baltimore

682
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Speaker 1: of the offense and they couldn't close this past Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's not to me that can knock you down to

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Speaker 1: quote the next level, Greg cam Newton is playing better

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Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson. Here is the next level. Ben Roethlisberger,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Cam Newton, Joe Flacco, and Russell Wilson seventh

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Speaker 1: through eleven. I gotta admit there's one guy who did

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Speaker 1: get a boost from name value on this entire list,

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Speaker 1: and I just had a hard time putting him lower,

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Speaker 1: and that was Russell Wilson. I don't think he's done

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Speaker 1: that much this year. If you really look at what

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Speaker 1: he's done. They don't ask him to do too much.

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Speaker 1: Kim Newton, I think is throwing the ball better right

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Speaker 1: now than he's ever done in his career. He played

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Speaker 1: great last week. You gotta watch that games. No, he's

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Speaker 1: played good. Give me the game where Cam Newton didn't

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Speaker 1: play well. Give me the game where Russell Wilson didn't.

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Speaker 1: Kim cam Newton is obviously he's throwing the ball well.

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Speaker 1: He's been sacked more times than he's rushed the ball.

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Speaker 1: You have that entire element of his game which makes

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Speaker 1: him so special, completely eliminated at this point. Well, he'd

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Speaker 1: be in the top five if he had the running ability,

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Speaker 1: because I think the passing right now is as good

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Speaker 1: as I've seen, and Joe Flacco right now is as

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Speaker 1: good and as consistent as I've seen from him in

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Speaker 1: a long time. All Right, let's go to the next

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Speaker 1: level after that, which Greg titled the next level after that.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite production of right there. Number twelve, Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning out top twelve, Tony Romo, Alex Smith, J Cutler,

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, Tom Brady at number seventeen, and Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: at eighteen. Greg, I gotta I gotta tell you Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton is playing better than Tom Brady right now. You

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Speaker 1: try to put Tom Brady, but but that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: You put Daltons somewhere just so that you can have

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Speaker 1: what is Dalton do? Yeah? Andy Dalton is the most

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Speaker 1: overrated player in the league right He's He's the reason

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Speaker 1: you have him right in the middle where he should be.

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Speaker 1: But Tom Brady, if this is about the first quarter

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Speaker 1: of the season, I know he's he's the golden boy,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to be lower after four games. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Brady played poorly until Monday night. I really don't.

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Speaker 1: I think last year when I did these, I had

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Speaker 1: a whole thing kind of killing. Brady had him very low.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was struggling early in this season. I

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Speaker 1: honestly believe the first three games he played fine. Monday

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Speaker 1: Night was you know, we don't want to talk about

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Speaker 1: Monday Night. I do. Uh? Anybody else have thoughts on

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Speaker 1: that little tier. I agree with Greg totally from watching

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Speaker 1: all of the Bengals games. All Dalton has done his

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Speaker 1: dumped the ball off the geo Bernard. He doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 1: And they asked him to make like six hard throws

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Speaker 1: a game and he misses four of him wait till

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, I would I would say one thing that

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Speaker 1: maybe Tony Tony Romo needs to be up a little

735
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Speaker 1: higher than he is. His first two games were brutal,

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Speaker 1: so that's half it makes sense that he would have

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Speaker 1: climbed from the bottom. You can make an argument that

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith belongs in the tier above two. He had again,

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Speaker 1: he had another bad week one, but he has been

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Speaker 1: consistent enough to be higher that he was great against

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Speaker 1: the Pats. The after Dalton. This is the everything after Dalton,

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Speaker 1: starting nineteen Austin Davis number nineteen. Nick falls. Some Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles hatred coming from Greg Kirk Cousins at twenty one,

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Speaker 1: even after that meltdown against the Giants, A Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: Drew Stanton poopoo platter, Ryan Tannehill at twenty three, and

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer Sessler's boy at four. I disagree with Dan

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Speaker 1: on fools. You can put him lower. Yeah, he's been

748
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: brutal well. That Niners game was worn. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, I mean, you are looking at a guy

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Speaker 1: that's getting protected by players that shouldn't even be starting

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Reection was fine in Week one and

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00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: that was Ers game, I know, but he got his

753
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Speaker 1: worst game of the season was Week one. It was

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Speaker 1: one of the worst five games I think any quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: had all year. He missed a lot of throws against

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Speaker 1: the Colts. The reason Folds is even that high, to

757
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: answer you West, is he does make a handful of

758
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: really nice plays every game. I mean, he moves well

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Speaker 1: in the pocket. Let's be honest. The reason he's a

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Speaker 1: high is because of one game he played lights out

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Speaker 1: against the Redskins. Yeah that's true. Yes, six giveaways this season.

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00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: He had four all of last year. So yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that his plays dropped off after while a

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Speaker 1: lawyer escaping the bottom tier. Way to go, buddy, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the bottom tier. And I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that's a compliment. Chastized me for not having, amongst surprises,

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Speaker 1: you only I wasn't the only one the chestise. You said,

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: this guy right here and and then him underneath, the

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Speaker 1: guy who almost got pulled. Let's be honest. He's played

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Speaker 1: three games, and two of them he's been fairly lousy.

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Speaker 1: So why did you chat its October? The baseball playoffs

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Speaker 1: will use an analogy of the umpire that has the

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Speaker 1: wide strike zone and then it doesn't have the wide

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Speaker 1: strike zone. Batter to batter, you gotta pick a strike zone,

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Speaker 1: stick with it. Whatever the strike zone is, that says

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Speaker 1: employer's mediocre. That's the one TD has a hot take. Guys,

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Speaker 1: what are the chances that and Adulton this year becomes

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Speaker 1: good enough where he's no longer the A D skill. However,

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Speaker 1: Austin Davis also improves and becomes consistent enough where he's

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Speaker 1: the A D skin. I would say two, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Austin Davis is going to ever be that good

782
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: will to your now, I don't think that could be measured.

783
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Speaker 1: I I do worry about that, or maybe it would

784
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: feel like coming off our shoulders. Austin Davis right now

785
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: is what case Keenum was after three two and a

786
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Speaker 1: half games last years, here's the end game. These are

787
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Speaker 1: the final quarterbacks. Matt Castle, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Gino Smith, Jake Locker,

788
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Speaker 1: Josh McCown, Derek Carr, EJ Manuel and the worst quarterback

789
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I guess among guys have started enough

790
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: games to qualify for such a thing, as Chad Henny

791
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: get excited about that end of the list. But I

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00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: thought Gino would have a couple of weeks he would

793
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: have been higher. I'm a little surprised that Gino didn't

794
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: creep into the next year, just because you've been a

795
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: staunch defender. Uh both in the beginning of the season

796
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: you were impressed and then you've been defending him the

797
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: last couple might be a little low now that yeah, well,

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00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: you always have to put Castle a few spots higher

799
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Speaker 1: than he deserves because that's your thing. So maybe that

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Speaker 1: explains I don't know, you gotta have it looks weird.

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Speaker 1: It was thirty one and there was no Castle for

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00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: a while, and I just thought that looks weird. You

803
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: gotta put someone. All right, let's go to the good

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Speaker 1: QB Index, Right? Did those come out every week every

805
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Speaker 1: week Thursday mornings? Are you kidding me? Free? It's like

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Speaker 1: the same as the End around the End rounds every

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Speaker 1: Friday dot Com Friday. Well, anybody else would have plug

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Speaker 1: their contents to use the show to plug our own

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Speaker 1: pieces free. And if you were raised by a mother

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00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: and father instead of a packard wolves, that means you

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Speaker 1: don't complain about it. Ever, it's free. But we complained

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Speaker 1: about the free food they started here all the time.

813
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Although I think I've had words with you about that.

814
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Speaker 1: Remember a couple of years ago, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: enough of this, complain about that. I don't complain about that.

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Speaker 1: Shut me up. Um, I will hold you to that

817
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: west next time you complain, I will. That would be

818
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Speaker 1: the first time. All right. Finally, let's go to the

819
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Speaker 1: rest of the games where we get out of here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with Tampa Bay heading to the Saints. The

821
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Bucks coming off that shocking win over the Steelers on

822
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: the road really probably the biggest upset of the season

823
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Speaker 1: to date, and now they have another tough task on

824
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Speaker 1: the road against the Saints. I guess what makes this

825
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: game a little tricky. We all picked the Saints, But

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Speaker 1: what makes a little tricky is that obviously the Saints

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Speaker 1: have had their trouble on the road. They have, they

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Speaker 1: weren't exactly dominant when we saw them on the home

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Speaker 1: either in the super Dome. This is a game that

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Speaker 1: if the Saints don't win by twenty points, then I

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Speaker 1: think YouTube should start getting really worried about that Soper.

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Speaker 1: They better blow out the Bucks this just in I'm

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00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: already really worried what Greg Costell said on I Believe

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Speaker 1: the Ross Tucker Podcast this week that Jaris's bird Jariss

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Speaker 1: birds fired has been Yeah, has been the worst safety

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Speaker 1: in the NFL this season. How about that? I guess

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Speaker 1: Greg coll is a lot better at measuring those things

838
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Speaker 1: than we are, but he hasn't played well neither. As

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Speaker 1: I mean, his competition for the award might be Kenny Vicaro.

840
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: Don't give Greg Costal too much credit. Mark is the

841
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: best at evaluating safety's in the entire Mark Carl Harrison

842
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: Smith last week, you know, I'm really concerned about birds back.

843
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: That's obviously a big issue. Um And when I've you know,

844
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Speaker 1: in hours of all twenty two footage, concerned about his

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Speaker 1: ability to shift and turn and make the tackle and

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Speaker 1: close in on the guys coming Downfieldless isn't sure this.

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Speaker 1: This guy got more money than any free agent in

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Speaker 1: the league and then he underwent back to injury right

849
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Speaker 1: after that. Picaro number one on our Making the Leap list,

850
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: and we are starting to look a rather suspect. Numbers

851
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: number two last year, number one, Ryan Tannehill. So if

852
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: you maybe don't want to be let's talk about them

853
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: making the leap. Let's let's let's keep it buried for now.

854
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: And if we have to face the music so far, yeah,

855
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: don't check it out. Don't go to NFL dot com

856
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 1: slash Making the Leap. Austin Davis and the St. Louis

857
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: Rams are heading to Philadelphia to face the Genius and

858
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Austin Davis officially named starter. Uh, the the Mr.

859
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: Hill era is over. It didn't last that long. It

860
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: took one injury to open the door Austin. So Austin

861
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: Davis was playing well. I think he's number three on

862
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: Greg's QB Index, number three or four, I don't remember.

863
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: Can he go into Philly and light up the Eagles

864
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: and keep him in a game and a shootout. Potentially, No, no,

865
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: why not? He looked at every game he's been out

866
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: there to words Schottenheimer Kama Brian Stenheimer the last couple

867
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: of weeks. Maybe Brian Schottenheimer was just waiting for Austin

868
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: Davis to come along, that they're a match made in heaven.

869
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: He's goin to turn every other quarterback he's had into

870
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: Austin Cessler and I have had this conversation several times

871
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: where Mark and listen, defending Brian Schottenheimer is probably not

872
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: something you wanted, the type of business you want to

873
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: get into. But Brian Schottenheimer was the last time he

874
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: had a decent quarterback to work with. Maybe Austin Davis

875
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: can play a little bit, Maybe Brian Schotenheimer. So all

876
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: the all the Rams that made excuses for all the

877
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: Rams fans made excuses for Sam Bradford for years, saying

878
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: his receivers and running backs, offensive line, we're no good.

879
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: Austin Davis comes in and three games does something Sam

880
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: Bradford never did. Maybe maybe Sam Bradford just isn't very

881
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: good right. Potentially, Michael Kendricks, I believe he's gonna be

882
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: out again. They're not really good cover. You know, he's

883
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: good at the touch pass. I could see some score

884
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: and this gave the Eagles are a weird team. I

885
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: don't know what this. Yeah, they are strange and Nick

886
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: is kind of hard to figure. Right now, we all

887
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: took the Eagles. Moving forward to Pittsburgh Steelers, who we

888
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 1: mentioned just moments earlier, shocked at home by the Bucks

889
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: on last Sunday. Now head to Jacksonville to face the

890
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: puture Jaguars who were forked by US, forked nice and hard.

891
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Uh this fast Wednesday. So now to me, this scene,

892
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: this smells exactly like everything is lined up for a

893
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: nice one to four pasting Steelers win. Anybody disagree? Nice

894
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: call back to the Patriots chief score taking Greg just

895
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: ride in his seat decades and not on purpose, but

896
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: potentially under the radar. Guess I think the Jaggars will

897
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: be a lot more competitive than that. I give this

898
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: crowd in Jacksonville a lot of credit for the noise

899
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: they were bringing in their one game. It was thirty

900
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: to nothing in that game and they were going crazy.

901
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I mean, I can't believe its

902
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: Burrow they'd all be home by they were. They were

903
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: arguing whoever who gets the giraffe floaty in the cabanas

904
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: Blake Bordles though, first home start, they're gonna be cooking.

905
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: I don't know he's completing. It's a little danger he's

906
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: completing of his passes. It's only a two game sample size,

907
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: but you know, listen, who would have last week? We

908
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: would all been laughed off the stage to suggest that

909
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Tampa could score points on on Pittsburgh's defense. I like

910
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: the idea of us being on a stage. Can we

911
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: get one? I would be awesome, Like maybe like Gin

912
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: around the NFL play. This could be a sneaky everyone

913
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: in the pool game no, uh no pun intended, Yeah,

914
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. In Jacksonville, everyone in

915
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: the pool for fantasy could be like forty seven to

916
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: thirty eight. That's what I'm spelling, everybody. I will be

917
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: stunned if this game isn't a blowout. Here's a battle

918
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: to three and one teams that I don't think anybody

919
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: predicted they'd be three and one at this point. The

920
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: Houston Texans heading to Big D to face the Dallas Cowboys,

921
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: And this shows you how how the Cowboys are kind

922
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 1: of moving in the right direction. Never a huge popular

923
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: pick among the around the NFL group, but we all

924
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: picked the Cowboys to take care of business at home

925
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: against the Texans. I guess Ryan Fitzpatrick's speech last week

926
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: doesn't have any cow carryover effect for the around the NFL.

927
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: I think it's it also shows that underneath it all,

928
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: when it comes down to a tough matchup, no one

929
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: believes in the Texans turned out. I'm not sure I

930
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: needed that sound bite with it, but very well done.

931
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: What a matchup if if whatever gets way on the

932
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: outside there? What versus Tyron Smith? How about what versus

933
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Tony Romo's creaky back? See you wait, so who are

934
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: you picking? We're all taking the cow We all put

935
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: out the Dallas and I thought you I thought you

936
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: were making a reference that J. J. Watt was going

937
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: to is interesting because Dallas is offensive line. Suddenly, you know,

938
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: maybe top two three in the league better at run

939
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: blocking than pass blocking. I mean, let's see if they

940
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: can deal with what and why is the most relentless

941
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: player I've ever seen in the history of the talk.

942
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: The Texans have something That's not why I said that

943
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: it would be funny if just randomly, for the rest

944
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: of the year, just whenever some one of us starts talking,

945
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: you just throw that in there. I think it has

946
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: nothing to do with j. J just shuts us up.

947
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: Has more than like fifteen teams or something right now

948
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: watching that. I monitored that Texans Bills game last week,

949
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: and you don't even it's not recorded on the box score.

950
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: The plays where he's swallowing up one or two guys

951
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: and some other guy in the Texans gets a quarterback

952
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: hit and gets a sack. It's happening all game long.

953
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: No team has less impressive victories, though. If you're impressed

954
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: by offense than the Texans, I mean they were winning

955
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: with these pick sixes by defensive lineman and block punts.

956
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm terrified of this game, absolutely terrified because we if

957
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: we know anything from the Dallas Cowboys in the last

958
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: three or four years, they are afraid of their own shadow.

959
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: They are afraid of success. How many games are they

960
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: blown where they were starting to get momentum in a

961
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: season at three and one, they have a chance to

962
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: jump to four and one, and here come the Texans,

963
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: who they're better than. You totally see the Cowboys block.

964
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: One thing to think about though. Arian Foster just did

965
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: not look healthy at all against Buffalo, and he and

966
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: he and he's a game time decision at best right now,

967
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: and he and Andre Johnson combined don't have as many

968
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: touches touchdowns as J. J. Watt. Let's talk some Kyle

969
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: Orton get excited a former Cowboy? Why did you want

970
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: to talk more? But I just want to just wanted

971
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: to keep it moving. I was giving you the final word.

972
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I like giving you the final word, bang

973
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: it out and then we move. I made my point.

974
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's proceed to the Kyle Orton conversation. Kyle Orton is

975
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. Now EJ. Manuel

976
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: exists now only in theory. He's a backup. And now

977
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton leads a let's say, I said, a talented

978
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Bills team to Detroit to face the Lions. Lions, who

979
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: are coming off a win on on the road against

980
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: the Jets, are looking genuinely frisky this year three and one,

981
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: playing very well on defense. Have we don't know what

982
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get from Calvin Johnson, who barely played against

983
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: the Jets. Missed another practice on Thursday, so I don't

984
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: know what's going on with him. However, good game right here.

985
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: This is a really sneaky great game of the week,

986
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo at Detroit. Your thoughts, gentlemen. I agree. I asked

987
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Mark when I got in this morning, since he saw

988
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: a rookie guru. If the edition of Kyle Orton makes

989
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins the heavy favorite for Rookie of the Year, now,

990
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: m I gotta start catching some passes. I think it does. Really,

991
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: I think all he needed was somebody to get him

992
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: the ball, and e Jmanuel could have been very good,

993
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: though he's stuck in my mind when he had he

994
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: could have had ten and three touchdowns if only two

995
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: inch inches away plays happened and he dominated that a

996
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: lot of negative plays, but we're buried the lead here.

997
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and k have a heat uh an animosity

998
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: between each other, unlike any media NFL player does. Kyle

999
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: doesn't know quite happen. But you have ramped it about

1000
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: Kyle or and how distasteful. How about this. I'm not

1001
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: into guys that you know are collecting millions of dollars

1002
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: and openly don't want to be doing what they're doing,

1003
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: so you quit and then you realize, oh wait, I

1004
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: need that still, So bang, the Buffalo Bills need a quarterback,

1005
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: and now I don't. I I think the West may

1006
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: be onto something. If Forrton has got his head, you know,

1007
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: screwed on straight. This is this is an upgrade for

1008
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: the Bills a quarterback. And suddenly if he can even

1009
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: just looking at your quarterback rankings, a properly functioning Orton

1010
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: is higher than six or seven of those guys. I

1011
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: like he's ordinary already. Though he was calling reporter. Then

1012
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: he say something was a clown question, a question somebody said, asked,

1013
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: how will you run this offense better than EJ? Manuel uh?

1014
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: And he said, that's a crap question. And we talked

1015
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: about a Wednesday, some of his wide receivers openly saying

1016
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: how Orton gets the ball out faster and reads things

1017
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: better than e J. And they have to We always

1018
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: hear things like that. Though not an easy first yeah,

1019
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: you're right there, and not easy first matchup, having to

1020
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: go to Detroit and play in the dome. Who took

1021
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: whu here? We all took. The lines I have across

1022
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Lions aren't just frisky, they're genuinely good. We're not ready

1023
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: to take rusty Kyle Orton on the road. I I

1024
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. This was one of the tougher

1025
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: games for me to pick. I was a little surprised

1026
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: no one went with the Bills. I thought pretty hard

1027
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: about taking the Bills. The Jets are losers of three

1028
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: straight and now traveled to the West Coast to play

1029
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers, a team of a t L

1030
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: nominee finalist, even uh Gino Smith. Here's a little setback

1031
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith and the Jets offense. Eric Decker on

1032
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: Thursday pulled himself out of practice with the hamstring tightened

1033
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: up again. This is now something that you really have

1034
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 1: to concerned. He's gonna stick with him for a while.

1035
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: Uh So the Jets could be potentially without Derek Eric

1036
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: Decker without um who's David Nelson who has an ankle injury.

1037
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: And when I mentioned David Nelson has maybe a big,

1038
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: big piece of the pie that's out. That tells you

1039
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot about the Jets depth of wide receivers. So

1040
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: and underman Jets team slumping heads to San Diego. Who's

1041
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: got the Jets? You wouldn't even you didn't even count

1042
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: do it gonna do it? I I don't like the

1043
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: way things are going. I didn't like what I've seen

1044
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: from Geno Smith this week, who's having some issues with

1045
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: the media. He had the middle finger incident. He seems

1046
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: to be cracking a little bit right now. He doesn't

1047
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 1: seem to be in a great spot. And Philip Rivers

1048
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: is just playing too well. He's gonna carve up that

1049
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Jet secondary, He's gonna throw for over three hundred yards

1050
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: passer rating north of one ten, three touchdowns Away we go.

1051
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: Chargers seem like they have graduated from the point where

1052
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 1: you worry that they might play down to their level

1053
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: of competition and and have a game where the Jets

1054
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: could beat them. I just think they're too mentally tough

1055
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: right now. I look at the game where you go

1056
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: into Buffalo, tough place to win and you pull that out.

1057
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: That for me is when they graduated from that, because

1058
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: that's a total spot where you see Sandy Ato sandygo melting.

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Speaker 1: You know, though, we can we sit and talk about

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Speaker 1: these games and we're missing the fact that five of

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Speaker 1: these are gonna end in bizarre fashion and make total

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Speaker 1: fools of what we say, who knows, maybe the Jets

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Speaker 1: pulled this thing out, and if this isn't a wild

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Speaker 1: mismatch or anything. And in general, when you look at

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Speaker 1: this week and we talked about it downstairs, this is

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Speaker 1: one of those weeks where you're picking the games like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this seems easier than the prior where you ended up

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Speaker 1: you end up being shocked by what happened. So maybe

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Speaker 1: the Jets save their season because at one and four

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Speaker 1: there probably is no coming back. I know how New

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Speaker 1: York narratives work, and it smells like next week's narrative

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Speaker 1: narrative will be, well, what about Rex Ryan's defense. You know,

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Speaker 1: this guy is supposed to be a defensive coach. After

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Speaker 1: the Chargers put you know, thirty points out of whatever, like,

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Speaker 1: let's take the attention off Geno Smith and put it

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Speaker 1: squarely tomorrow would score a game winning touchdown. Uh, finally

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Speaker 1: the final game. All your sesslers are for things that

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Speaker 1: you didn't actually predict, right, That's one of the trends

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Speaker 1: of the season. When we talk about the quarter pole

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Speaker 1: Sessler predicting things that go against his written predictions elsewhere, Well,

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Speaker 1: in that all I can point to something that came

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Speaker 1: out right every time. Yeah, we were walking downstairs after

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Speaker 1: the podcast and you went on this long rant, how

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Speaker 1: your your team of a t L nominee? The Jets

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Speaker 1: are gonna trash the Lions next week and prove us

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Speaker 1: all wrong. And then I go and look at our

1087
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Speaker 1: picks and you pick the Lions? Did I pick correctly? Coward? Finally,

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football, the Seattle Seahawks heading to Washington to

1089
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Speaker 1: face the Redskins. The Seahawks uh seemed to be in

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Speaker 1: a very good spot here, considering they are superior team,

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Speaker 1: but on the road in prime time, the Seahawks aren't

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Speaker 1: as good on the road, and the Redskins are frisky,

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Speaker 1: although they're coming off a bad loss for Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: where he performed terribly. How do we see this? I

1095
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: want to see what the Redskins defense looks like, because

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00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: I thought this team had some promise until that Giants game,

1097
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: and now that Giants game is stuck with us for

1098
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Speaker 1: two and a half weeks and that's all we could remember.

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Speaker 1: But this team looked pretty good for the first three

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Yeah, I think that Bucks game,

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Speaker 1: for instance, where they went out and got absolutely ripped

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Speaker 1: by Atlanta. You thought, oh, they're gonna lose every game

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Speaker 1: this way, and then they come back and beat a

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Speaker 1: much better team than them and the Steelers. I don't

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Speaker 1: look at the blowouts, and they shouldn't stick with you

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Speaker 1: those blowouts week to week. This could be This is

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Speaker 1: Washington season in a sense, and you gotta you gotta

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Speaker 1: show that you can do something in a home spot here.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to overthink this. The Seahawks are a

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Speaker 1: much better team than the Redskins. All right, we all

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Speaker 1: took them. They are, but eight Seahawks haven't won. When

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Speaker 1: was the last time seas went a road game? Two

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Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen? Give me a break, how about this

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Speaker 1: February first, two thousand four. Technically that's neutral, but whatever.

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Speaker 1: Al Right, So that's it for Thursday's edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. We will be back on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: as we always are, the only NFL podcast that you

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Speaker 1: will find that has a podcast up and ready to

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Speaker 1: roll Sunday night for you to soak in. Whether you're

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Speaker 1: putting yourself to sleep, or you're driving to work, or

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Speaker 1: you're pumping iron at the gym. Sizzler style, that's what

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Speaker 1: we bring. My hasn't some competitor jumped up and decided

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Speaker 1: we'll do a showy they're afraid, it seems. It just

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Speaker 1: seems like no one's taking the many ideas all right,

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Speaker 1: So we will be back on Sunday night to stand

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Speaker 1: hand the Sunday off for the Sizzler, the Mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boston t D behind the glass. Until then, well, if

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Speaker 1: we're at a break, I'm goin of blow right now.

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Speaker 1: Use that at the end of the podcast.