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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys, welcome to the Break today. There's no

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Speaker 1: Derrik Eagleton, but we have mister Brian brought us here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Does Brian Holls it feel to be back

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Speaker 1: on a good show? Yeah? No, damn. Absolutely did miss you? Really?

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Speaker 1: I missed you, guys, Yeah, I missed you. You really

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Speaker 1: don't pull punches ever. Yeah. The average age of the show,

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Speaker 1: do you know what a joke is? Yeah? The average

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Speaker 1: age of my show is one hundred and five and

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Speaker 1: this one is a lot less than absolutely absolutely all right.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get into the some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that people people are asking about. One of them is

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Speaker 1: Shaun Lee. He's been doing some work today. How is

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Speaker 1: that looking for this weekend? I know, obviously it's kind

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Speaker 1: of soon to tell, but as far as the things

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Speaker 1: and what he's been able to do so far, only

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Speaker 1: practiced yesterday, is at practice again today. We always say,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're the earlier in the week you're available,

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Speaker 1: the better it is for your prospects of being available.

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Speaker 1: So I feel kind of confident that he might be

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Speaker 1: able to go. And what we've we've gone back and

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Speaker 1: forth about what that means for the linebacker position and

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Speaker 1: how they platoon all those guys. But I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: leaning toward thinking he might be active. You know, usually

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Speaker 1: you have like a situation where you got to buy week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't think that you would play, but

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Speaker 1: no one shan Lee and seeing what he's seeing out

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Speaker 1: there on the field, with these two guys playing like

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Speaker 1: they are, I think he wants to get back there

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Speaker 1: as well. So he said it all along. If I'm healthy,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to play, regardless the bias. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that it was very clear that Jason Garrett came out

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Speaker 1: the other day, I think it was Monday, and was

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Speaker 1: talking about there's only so many of these games, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's only so many of these opportunities, And I think

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Speaker 1: that was a really good hint that Sean was going

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Speaker 1: to try and work his way through. I know on

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Speaker 1: our periscope yesterday I said he's going to come and

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Speaker 1: play and start, and I don't. I don't feel that

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Speaker 1: any different today than I did, you know, so I'm

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Speaker 1: going I'm gonna say that he's gonna be part of

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Speaker 1: this rotation. He's likely gonna he's gonna start him and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, and then they're gonna find ways to get him,

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Speaker 1: Laton vander Esh, those guys all through are going to rotate.

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Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be really good for Sean Lee because in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, when you need him in a game to

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Speaker 1: come out and make a play, maybe to chase down

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Speaker 1: down fourth down, whatever he has to do, you'll have

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Speaker 1: a fresh or Seawan Lee playing that way, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good thing. I just want to stop

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Speaker 1: and consider the fact that Dallas Cowboys might have have

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Speaker 1: too many good linebackers, Like, what the hell happened? That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe those words came out of my mouth,

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Speaker 1: but it's true. You know what they've said. Problem they

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Speaker 1: took a chance they took a chance though, really on

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Speaker 1: one of them, on Jalen Smith. Helly, it took a

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Speaker 1: huge chance on Jalen Smith. And you know, and point

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Speaker 1: the finger at me as not wanting anything to do

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Smith. But now you have a situation where

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Speaker 1: they got through the time. I'm surprised, and I asked

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Speaker 1: this question on our show the day. I am surprised

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Speaker 1: how smoothly this this without Sean Lee has gone. And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work up turnabout communication. I think

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Speaker 1: that's talking. On the offense, it seems to be a problem,

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Speaker 1: but on defense they haven't given a big place. They haven't.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm sitting there screaming for for you know,

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Speaker 1: So you know, count me as being not very smart

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Speaker 1: thinking about what Jalen Smith could do. You know, I

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Speaker 1: not ready to say that we're going to see a

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to discredit what Jordan Lewis has done

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Speaker 1: and you know, here's Jordan Lewis. He played fourteen games

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Speaker 1: those reps. Now, Dave, let's get into the Redskins defense. Now. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do that right now. Okay, you always like you.

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Speaker 1: It's I like how you mix it up. I never know,

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Speaker 1: I never know when you're gonna spring that all. You

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Speaker 1: looking at them, So it's a three four defense. I

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Speaker 1: obviously all NFL players are athletic, but this is this

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Speaker 1: at before you threw it over to me is Durron

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Speaker 1: Payne and Jonathan Allen are the centerpiece of this thing.

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Speaker 1: These first round picks they've taken the last two years

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Speaker 1: they move with alarming athleticism, like Jonathan Allen and Durn

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Speaker 1: Payne routinely make plays at the numbers even though they're

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Speaker 1: don't think that there is Again, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: I appreciate this positive reinforcement. Um. They they're instinctive players

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Speaker 1: us some of this? We saw him catch the out

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Speaker 1: the other day. You know, it was a big play. Nice,

426
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Speaker 1: you know, he's got an ability to kind of not

427
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Speaker 1: kind of he gets himself open, but do you find

428
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Speaker 1: ways to implement him more in the offense with and

429
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Speaker 1: so you can get Beasley and Gallop and then Swain

430
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Speaker 1: and then now you're throwing the screens and stuff to

431
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Speaker 1: the outside or the or the passes you try and

432
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Speaker 1: get to Zeke. I genuinely don't care. It just needs

433
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Speaker 1: to be somebody, somebody Well, okay, oh you're not well,

434
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: you guys are not wrong at all. Fabian Moreau is

435
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Speaker 1: there in their nickel corner. Yes, so you guy, you

436
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: really like u CLA, you would have you know, he's

437
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: Beasley's guy, and they're gonna do what they can to

438
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Speaker 1: help him, whether it's a linebacker or a safety. I

439
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: don't think Dj Sweringer is that he loves to hit.

440
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: Not that guy aggressive. He's not a great guy. I

441
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Speaker 1: don't really think Monte Nicholson is that impressive either. Yeah,

442
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: but they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna think

443
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Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, They're gonna the Redskins are gonna say, Okay,

444
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Speaker 1: well he's good enough to help, you know, And I

445
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Speaker 1: maybe he is. Yeah, And I think it's gonna be

446
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Speaker 1: more involvably with the linebackers because Beasley's where's the damage

447
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: that Beasley's been can do in the middle of the field,

448
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: the middle of the field underneath. You have to find ways.

449
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: Now this team plays a ton of his own defense.

450
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to do that against the

451
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys and give Beasley free access in these routes because

452
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Speaker 1: if they do that, he will wear them out. There's

453
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Speaker 1: no question about that. What and you about Quentin Dunbar

454
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: earlier this week too, He's I wrote, he's over he's

455
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: overly aggressive, way over. Get right for the double moves

456
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 1: there or even whatever like play action or anything you

457
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Speaker 1: can do to deceive him. I think it works. So

458
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Speaker 1: basically my point is, and even uh, he's a good player.

459
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: But Devin Funchius gave Josh Norman some work last week,

460
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Speaker 1: like this isn't amazing. Yeah, this is where it's gonna

461
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: come down to. Because that's why I thought Houston was

462
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Speaker 1: more like this team, because good defensive front, questions in

463
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Speaker 1: the secondary, you know, yeah, that's where you know what

464
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: did Dallas do? They didn't protect well enough in the

465
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Speaker 1: Houston game, and you and they weren't able to take

466
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Speaker 1: advantage of the secondary. But you think that the Redskins

467
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: are just as good as the Texans. I think up front, Yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: I think up front they present. They don't have the

469
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Speaker 1: pass rusher, but but they don't rush. They don't rush

470
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Speaker 1: the passer. They've only got They have twelve sacks on there,

471
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Speaker 1: and they didn't get a ton of pressure on Cam New.

472
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Speaker 1: But you hold the ball. This guy holds the ball

473
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe he shouldn't. Yeah, well, here here's

474
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Speaker 1: a friend question for you guys. And after hearing how

475
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Speaker 1: the Redskins defense is, and I believe that part of

476
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys success offensively comes from the ability to use

477
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Speaker 1: different elements, whether it's Dak running the ball or giving

478
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Speaker 1: the ball to see throwing passes. What is something that

479
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Speaker 1: they're going to have to rely the most in this

480
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Speaker 1: specific game facing this defense. Because you talked about them

481
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Speaker 1: kind of limiting the running game a little bit, and

482
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Speaker 1: then we talked about the passes and stuff. What would

483
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Speaker 1: be the one thing that you could trust them to

484
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Speaker 1: actually do and be successful at in this game? Well,

485
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Speaker 1: you know Stephen Jones was talking about I just talked

486
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Speaker 1: to Stephen. He said the biggest play of the game

487
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Speaker 1: in his mind was a deep ball to Tavon Austin

488
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Speaker 1: that was incomplete. Yeah, he thought that play was just

489
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Speaker 1: taking a shot. So I asked him, I said, all right, now,

490
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Speaker 1: Tavon's not going to be here this week, what or

491
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Speaker 1: maybe in a few weeks. And he said, Deonte Thompson

492
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Speaker 1: is we got to utilize his speed. We've got to

493
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Speaker 1: get his speed involved. Didn't mean get him involved, get

494
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Speaker 1: his speed involved. Also he said Bryce might be a

495
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Speaker 1: part of that as well. But but I just think

496
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Speaker 1: that being said of what he said, I think we

497
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Speaker 1: have to he said, we have to continue to take

498
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Speaker 1: shots down the field, whether or not you're completing those

499
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Speaker 1: passes or not, which then goes back to your question.

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00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: They got to run the football, of course, but how

501
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Speaker 1: to do that, how to back him off? How to

502
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: get these aggressive guys to bite. I think they're going

503
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Speaker 1: to see some deep balls, even if they're completed or not.

504
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Speaker 1: He's good playing and that's scenario. Who do you trust

505
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Speaker 1: more at this point, Deonta Thompson or Bryce Bowler, Although

506
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen year. That's a good question. It is

507
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Speaker 1: a great question. But you know what I'll throw out

508
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Speaker 1: a third guy in there. But I'm throwing galloping. Yeah, yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: what's the thing with Gallup? I mean, the one thing

510
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Speaker 1: that we've seen with Gallup is he might be running,

511
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Speaker 1: run and running, then all of sudden you see at

512
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Speaker 1: the very end there's that separation. Where Gallup has had

513
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Speaker 1: a little bit of some problems. Is the seeing the

514
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Speaker 1: ball over his head. You know, when he's having to

515
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Speaker 1: fight track it a flight of the ball. So you

516
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Speaker 1: know when they put the ball on him like they

517
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Speaker 1: did in San Francisco, man, you can you can have

518
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Speaker 1: some big plays there. But and he mentioned him as

519
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Speaker 1: well like that that he's a long strider, and I

520
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Speaker 1: think I think, I think that, Yeah, I think Michael

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Speaker 1: Gallop has to be I think Michael Gallup has to

522
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Speaker 1: be a guy if he if he has seven targets

523
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Speaker 1: and forum or catches, I'm okay with that because I know,

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Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a day we ate seven targets

525
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Speaker 1: on the year. Well, that's what I'm saying though. That's

526
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Speaker 1: where that's where if I asked if I was sitting

527
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Speaker 1: in the box with Scott Linahan, I would say thirteen,

528
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'd click over if I's Jason Garrett.

529
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, hey, you got something for thirteen there,

530
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Speaker 1: you got something for him. You know you got something.

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Speaker 1: I would just keep reminding him that. You know, this

532
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Speaker 1: guy has that kind of ability. We saw what he

533
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Speaker 1: was able to mean, he if he comes down with

534
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Speaker 1: that ball in the end zone. I mean that ball

535
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: was looked like it was going over his head and

536
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Speaker 1: he goes up there and gets it and he everything,

537
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: he did everything right but his foot coming down and

538
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: hitting the back of his other foot. But that's because

539
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: he hung in the air for like five seconds to

540
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Speaker 1: catch it. Yeah, you know you can't. You can't coach

541
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. It sounds like wishful thinking because we haven't

542
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: seen it on any kind of consistent basis. But yeah,

543
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: like they need somebody needs to win out by the numbers,

544
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: like on a consistent basis to the point, because we

545
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: think they're gonna take Cole Beasley away and we think

546
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Speaker 1: they have the personnel to stop Seeke. So what I mean,

547
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Speaker 1: what do you do otherwise? See that's where I was

548
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: kind of like hitting a little bit about Jeff Swain,

549
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Speaker 1: you know, and maybe okay, it turns into simple passes

550
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: to just swin that's what it takes seven or eight

551
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: yard and then he you know, we've seen him when

552
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: he's got the balls in And I'm not just talking

553
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: about the waggles and the boots we were moving the pocket.

554
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fine ways to hit him and let him,

555
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, eight yards. I don't I don't want to

556
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: play second in two right there. I don't want to compare.

557
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare Jeff Swain to Jordan Read

558
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: because Reads one of them. When he's healthy, he's one

559
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: of the best Titans in football. But like half the

560
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: stuff they do with him is just him sitting down

561
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Speaker 1: in the zone. I mean, you know, the classic Jason

562
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Witton stuff, right, Alex Smith loves to check it down.

563
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: That's fine, Yeah, that's fine with me. Yeah. So yeah,

564
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: I don't know they gotta because I just I straight up,

565
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Speaker 1: they're not gonna let Cole Beasley do what he did

566
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Speaker 1: last week. There's I don't think he can. There's too

567
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: much beef on this defense to think Zeke is gonna,

568
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Speaker 1: you know, just power his way to this. Yeah, and

569
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Speaker 1: unless you can pass enough to back them off. Yeah,

570
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: some of the plays they made last week in the game,

571
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Speaker 1: that's what was the play they went to Gallup that

572
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Speaker 1: was third and nine. I mean they had a lot

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Speaker 1: of third and nine or third and whatever plays they

574
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Speaker 1: had to make in that game. Yeah, So I don't

575
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Speaker 1: know if you want to continually live that way because

576
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: they hadn't been very good on third down but for

577
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: last week right around forty one percent. So but I

578
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: just don't I just don't see. There was a question

579
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Speaker 1: that was posed, Um, I guess through the website and

580
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: the fans that are watching the show right now, is

581
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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley the biggest the Cowboys biggest threatnin voted non

582
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Speaker 1: voted yes. So did they did they have a Oh,

583
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: I have it too. So they don't have an answer, though,

584
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean I agree in the passing game or on offense.

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00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: In the passing game, I would guess because common sense

586
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: says Zeke is your biggest threat. But at first I

587
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: had looked when I looked at the numbers, I thought

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Speaker 1: that eight nine. I said yes, and I was like,

589
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Speaker 1: very very I was gonna be very surprised after just

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Speaker 1: one game by people saying that. But clearly Cole is

591
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Speaker 1: one of those guys and one of those elements that

592
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: could really help the Cowboys offense get moving and we

593
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Speaker 1: saw it in two sixteen. I want to see it

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Speaker 1: this week. I want to see it after nine catches.

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00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: I want to see him come back. And yeah, that

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00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: would be amazing because because they're gonna try to stop him.

597
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, he had one catch the week before, but

598
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Speaker 1: because that's what I'm still wondering if he can do

599
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Speaker 1: and they really want to focus on him and you

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Speaker 1: I mean, because teams want to focus on Antonio Brown. Yeah,

601
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: he still makes plays. Yeah, focus, I'm not trying to

602
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: compare him. I'm just saying, well, they try to shut

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Speaker 1: him down and that you know he's in a on

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Speaker 1: track year. That would be a hell of a chase

605
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: statement for his next contract. Garrett always talks about this.

606
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Speaker 1: He's always this, if they want to take you out

607
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: of a game, they'll take you out of a game.

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Speaker 1: But that's where to Ambar's question, that's okay, who else?

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Speaker 1: Who else is gonna step? Yeah? Yeah? Who who else

610
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Speaker 1: is going to get nine targets and make seven catches?

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Speaker 1: You know who if if Cole Beasley gets two catches,

612
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Speaker 1: but you know, Michael Gallup or Thompson or whoever catches

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Speaker 1: seven balls and it turns into you know, near one

614
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: hundred yard day, then then you're gonna make people have

615
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: to back off covering Cole Beasley. I think I've probably

616
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Speaker 1: brought it up on this show before, but I just

617
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Speaker 1: have this vivid memory of OTA's and Gary Brown was like, Yeah,

618
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna be dealing with stack boxes, but

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Speaker 1: we've got we've got some guys here and we know

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Speaker 1: that they feel disrespected and when they start winning things

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Speaker 1: on the outside, that'll change. Well, yeah, we're halfway through

622
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Speaker 1: the season and that has not happened yet. No, and

623
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Speaker 1: it needs to if this offense is going to achieve

624
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Speaker 1: any type of consistency. Well let's take our final break.

625
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, a few guys are listening to

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Speaker 1: vote in on this next question, which wide receiver needs

627
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Speaker 1: to be the most involved? Just tune in on Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. There on the podcast and

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Speaker 1: make or vote and we'll discuss the answers when we

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Speaker 1: come back. While the player can look good on paper,

631
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Speaker 1: it's one he's out on the field that you really

632
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: find out what he's made of. That's why the Cowboys

633
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: rely on more than just stats and scouting reports. When

634
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: building their team. When picking a tractor, it's why you

635
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,480
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Speaker 1: back to the break, we are back on the final

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Speaker 1: segment of the break. The voting actually happens through the

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Speaker 1: be part of this show with your voting. So the

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Speaker 1: question was which wide receiver needs to be the most involved?

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Speaker 1: Who would you guess fans voted for. Oh, they've got

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Speaker 1: to vote for Gallup. I believe Michael Gallop. Michael Gallup,

682
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Speaker 1: which takes on the lead with fifty two percent. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's interesting. But now we have Alan Hearns at forty percent.

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Speaker 1: I'd be all right too. I would feel I'd have

685
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: an easier time defending Hearns if I mean, he probably

686
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: should have had a touchdown last week by Oh, Bryce,

687
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Speaker 1: I've gotten tired of trying to right now. Yeah, I've

688
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: gotten tired of trying to promote him because every time

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Speaker 1: I think that he's going to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the operation, something happens to close Yeah, he's standing behind

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Speaker 1: Alan Hearns telling you why the receiver shouldn't get pretty

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Speaker 1: game cheer leader. He got a lot of FaceTime and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the game of the day. I wouldn't mind seeing Hearns

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Speaker 1: get more involved. I said, I said last week that

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Speaker 1: good stuff happens when you throw it to him more

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Speaker 1: often than not. All I mean, like I said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Dak gave him a pretty well placed ball that he

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Speaker 1: might have had for a touchdown if he hadn't lost

699
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Speaker 1: it in the lights the other day. But other than that, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Terrence Williams am I A. I don't I

701
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Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever fully understand how that, I mean,

702
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: why was wrong about him? Yeah, you and me both

703
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: way wrong about him? After Terrence uh Tavon Austin is

704
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: a guy that I've been screaming needs to be more involved,

705
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: and now he's unavailable. So who's left but gallup as

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Speaker 1: he Detay Thompson Stevens something there. He's a great guy

707
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: and he's got a valuable skill set. But like he

708
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Speaker 1: he's never intrigued me the way that he intrigued other

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a question, okay, if say that you

710
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: talked about Austin if he, in fact is in eight

711
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Speaker 1: week injury, you know, or needs to go in I

712
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Speaker 1: R who would you rather have up in that spot?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Brown comeback? Or Lance Lenore? Noah Brown?

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Speaker 1: This is the Noah Brown fan club over here on

715
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Speaker 1: this side of the table, So really, yes, Well I

716
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Speaker 1: don't know about a Brown oh those two. Yes, for sure.

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00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: I've seen way more out of him. I don't know why.

718
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: I've just I've never been a big Lance guy. He's

719
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: done nothing but catch balls and make touchdowns and done everything.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just feel like everyone

721
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: when though, when when is it that you see that happening? Though? Summer? Okay,

722
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: exactly exact when we're all in Oxnard, Noah Brown. That's

723
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I would love to fight for Lance Lenore,

724
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Speaker 1: But it's hard to fight when you know you're saying

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Speaker 1: you see him, You're like, this guy might make some

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Speaker 1: plays and then all of a sudden, the lights come

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Speaker 1: on and you're like, where do you go? You know,

728
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: it's like you don't Anderson, he kind of came in

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00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: why not? He came in Layton training camp and just

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Speaker 1: kind of made a play every time he got he

731
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Speaker 1: got the chance. I think it's gonna come down to

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Speaker 1: personally Lance. I don't think they're gonna I think if

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Speaker 1: they had to make a switch, they would go with Brown.

734
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: I think Brown has a body. They brought back Bryce

735
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Speaker 1: Butler instead of elevating Lance Lenore. That's really all you

736
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: need to know Noah Brown. You know, but one point,

737
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: people want des back so much like how many times

738
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: did you confuse Noah Brown for Deaz last year? They

739
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: look the same and with their ridiculous insistence on you know,

740
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: running crackback blocks with their receivers against defensive ends. Noah

741
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: Brown can actually do that. He did it all last year,

742
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: so he can help you in the run game. And

743
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: he's got that you know, freaky box out physical body type.

744
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I who knows if he'll actually be as good as

745
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: I think he could be. Probably not. Can he come back?

746
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Speaker 1: He can practice today? I think they're gonna wait, No,

747
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: he's not out there today. No, they're gonna wait and

748
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: see if what's up with Austin. But he can't play

749
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Speaker 1: until week after week eight, right, some week nine whatever week,

750
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Speaker 1: So that's this is seven bye week is eight, So

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00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be able to play until after the Titans game.

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00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: That's a guy that I definitely want to see on

753
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: the field and give it a chance at least. But

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Speaker 1: it might be it might be the like I said,

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00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I've tried to think about, Okay, what does this team need?

756
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: It needs a like a big body guy to go

757
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: get the football. I mean that's I mean, you know,

758
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: we've seen they're not good. They didn't do anything with Austin.

759
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: That's one of those ones are gonna look back on

760
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: and someone's gonna go. Amber made us answer this yesterday, Brian,

761
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: you weren't here, would you go get a Mark Cooper?

762
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: You know I've hearn that Mark Cooper doesn't like football.

763
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: I heard you say that on twit. Yeah, and and

764
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: that's coming from some Raider guys. So I mean, we'll see.

765
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I know John Gruden

766
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Speaker 1: is trying to get rid of Reggie McKenzie too. He's

767
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: trying to get rid of all his players. Heard of

768
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: that about other guys. I've heard that about Tacco when

769
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Speaker 1: he first got here. I don't even know where I

770
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: heard it from, but I heard it. Guys who don't

771
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: like football can still be good if no, no, there's

772
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Speaker 1: no question, but the thing that would make you think,

773
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Speaker 1: you know, okay, maybe a change in scenery would be

774
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: good for the guy. But okay, do you what do

775
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: you give up? Do you're gonna give up your one?

776
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Speaker 1: And that's what they're gonna ask you for, give up

777
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Speaker 1: your two. I would give up a two. I would

778
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Speaker 1: not up a one and give up anything. Now, see,

779
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: you want to see brown player, right, Hey, why not?

780
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying at this point, it's not like I

781
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: don't think a player like him, she's about to make

782
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: a really good she's about to make a good point here,

783
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: would actually make a huge change on this offer. Could

784
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: they Could a player like that, a player like that

785
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: thrive in this current the way they throw the football,

786
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: And that's I'm not I think that's the direction you were.

787
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that that's the direction pretty much. Yeah, you

788
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: don't like football, or you've done something to let people

789
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: think that you don't. Yeah, this isn't a great place,

790
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: a great offense for it. There's gonna be some games

791
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: where you get one or two catches. Look at yeah,

792
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Alan Hurns, Alan Hearns get stepped up and said, listen,

793
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: stop pointing the finger. At me. You know, there's other

794
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: problems on this team. There's there's very few receivers that

795
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that they would like elevate this thing, just

796
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: with the way the Cowboys play football, with the way

797
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: they've protected and the way that has played in most

798
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: of the sames. But what would would a big time

799
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Speaker 1: receiver be able to thrive in this Yesterday, go around

800
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Speaker 1: the room and pick a guy you want to have

801
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: on this team, and he went with Thomas for I

802
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: don't even and I picked him, I just says des

803
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Speaker 1: Kent says death. That's what Kent says, Dez. I don't.

804
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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't hear you did's headphones on? Sorry you don't.

805
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: I forgot. Who would you go, Brian? If I could

806
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Speaker 1: go pick somebody, Yeah, I think I would. I would

807
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: probably go with Thomas from the Saints myself. I would.

808
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I I like watching him play, I really do.

809
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: I think he just one of those guys that just

810
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: can go. Now people say the guy in Atlanta, okay guy,

811
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Speaker 1: and you know to guy guy in Pittsburgh. At the

812
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Speaker 1: risk of just repeating the conversation we already had yesterday,

813
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: but don't you I mean Okay, maybe Amari Cooper can't

814
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: help the offense. But like for a second or third

815
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: round pick, don't you think that's a small enough price

816
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: to be worth it. Oh sure, there's no question it's

817
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: worth it. But is it worth it because is it

818
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna work out? But that's it gonna work out? Because

819
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: is you get this thing broke because the receiver or

820
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: is it broke because the scheme? Everything right, everything with

821
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Speaker 1: with you know, the safety. You knew that he could

822
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Speaker 1: come in, Oh yeah, play in this system and it

823
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Speaker 1: was a position of need and he could go in

824
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: and help these guys. But I don't know about a

825
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: second rounder for that's for him. I wouldn't and that's

826
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Speaker 1: why I wouldn't give up a first rounder. But a

827
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Speaker 1: second rounder. I mean, I'm gonna risk that on a

828
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith or Randy Gregory anyway, and maybe it'll work out.

829
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: But you get twenty six games out of him bare minimum,

830
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Speaker 1: or he plays well enough that you extend him your

831
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Speaker 1: second round pick is worth twelve million dollars. That's true. Actually,

832
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Speaker 1: I'm not comparing the two because there are obviously two

833
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: different players. But it's like when you look at a

834
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: guy like Tavon Austin and all the things that we

835
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: talked about him previous to starting playing games. Here, it's like, Okay,

836
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: you have this guy with these kind of talents and

837
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys still havn't really used him in a positive way.

838
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Are you actually profiting out of it? And I don't

839
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: think that's a fair comparison. It's not, But I'm just saying,

840
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: can the Cowboys really utilize a guy like him and

841
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: take advantage of it? I don't know. You would like

842
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: to think so, but I don't have a ton of confidence.

843
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: Right here's a different question, and I wanted We're running

844
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Speaker 1: out of time here, but I thought it was pretty interesting. Brian,

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Speaker 1: a third quarter defensive adjustment instead of a starter that

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Speaker 1: think Sean Lee could stand there, sit there for thirty minutes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like, but you know, and and yeah, actually he

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Speaker 1: the second half and half? Was that there a closer

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Speaker 1: named Lee. Yeah, yeahs Bill Lee Lee Smith, Lee Smith.

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Speaker 1: But regardless of Shaun Lee and what he would want

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Speaker 1: that's you stand there, you sit there for three quarters.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the point he's making, there's something there. It's just

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Speaker 1: not that plan exactly. Yes, utilize him in a different

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Speaker 1: he's a he's a third down guy, not fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, the Nickel package and stuff. I

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Speaker 1: think he's onto something. I wouldn't wait that long in

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Speaker 1: flow of the game. I mean Lee's best thirty five plays,

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Speaker 1: that's what I need. All right, Let's not forget his

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Speaker 1: last game he played. He had like eleven tackles in

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Speaker 1: the fifth quarter of the game. I mean, he was on.

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Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. So get those guys out there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I three guys can can play that condition. This is

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Speaker 1: a I just talked to Stephen Jones. He said, this

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Speaker 1: agree with that we love, all these linebackers that we

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Speaker 1: got going on right now. All right, Well, that is

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Speaker 1: all the time we have for today. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Brian for sure joining us awesome forty five minutes show

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