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Speaker 1: back side, to be back side, to have my tape
Speaker 1: machine back so I can watch some tape. You know,
Speaker 1: is it I kind of missed that when I go
Speaker 1: away for a week. It was a good trip. Get
Speaker 1: tired of roughing it in the Candlewood Sweets. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love the Candlewood Sweets, though, I do. We did some
Speaker 1: We did some fine work at the Candlewood Sweets. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to learn, a lot to learn. You have
Speaker 1: one main takeaway from the trip to Mobile this year.
Speaker 1: You know what, The roster was really good. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like the roster you know, I think that Jim Naggi
Speaker 1: has done a fine job. I really really do. And
Speaker 1: you know, the majority of these players in this draft
Speaker 1: is going to be junior heavy kind of you know, guys,
Speaker 1: but I felt like you saw some of the best
Speaker 1: senior players in the country playing at this place, no question,
Speaker 1: and this year, just whatever reason, we saw a fewer
Speaker 1: dropouts that we usually do. And Josh Allen from Kentucky
Speaker 1: he pulled out, but being a projected top five, top
Speaker 1: seven pick, not a big surprise. Some other guys didn't
Speaker 1: wear no shows. But for the most part, this is
Speaker 1: the best collection of talent overall that we've seen the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in number of years. Absolutely, And yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the great thing about love going down there. I love
Speaker 1: a value waiting that so and I want to get
Speaker 1: into that too. I want to put a bow on that. Yes,
Speaker 1: because I know you and I well, we've all talked
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Speaker 1: about this, some things to look for. I want to
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Speaker 1: There's some deep positions here, and I want to get
Speaker 1: in some names on their first round names. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: talk about first round names. You know. I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: about all these players. I want to do it. But
Speaker 1: at first, Dane, I want you to go through. You
Speaker 1: had some questions about this, and let's see if we
Speaker 1: got some of our Senior Bowl questions answered as we
Speaker 1: made our week at Mobile. Yeah, and I think some
Speaker 1: of the key storylines, key subjects that we were talking
Speaker 1: about going into the week. Yeah, let's review them, see
Speaker 1: what we learned. Maybe some questions unanswered, some questions answered.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Washington States. Andre Dillard, Okay, offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I thought he was the top offensive lineman at the
Speaker 1: Senior Ball the Senior bol senior offensive lineman. Did he
Speaker 1: live up to that? Does he leave the week still
Speaker 1: as a top offensive lineman among the seniors. Any strong
Speaker 1: opinion on that, Brian, Yeah, I do have an opinion
Speaker 1: because I felt I felt like that watching Dalton Risinger play,
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like he was one of my
Speaker 1: top guys. Okay, I really did. Yeah, as a tackle,
Speaker 1: I really liked him. I'll see you. Another guy that
Speaker 1: impressed me boys is Eric McCoy, the center from Texas
Speaker 1: a and asolutely. You know, I didn't expect Eric McCoy.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going into thinking, oh, hey, I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: a center here. I saw a guy that got some push.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that could play second level. I
Speaker 1: saw a guy that didn't get knocked around. You know,
Speaker 1: I was impressed with him. You know, Chris Lindstrom was
Speaker 1: a guy too that I looked at Boston College. I
Speaker 1: kind of had a good opinion about him. But you
Speaker 1: know what, though, there was times where he didn't show
Speaker 1: me enough. So there were guys I was going in
Speaker 1: thinking that, Okay, this is gonna be my guy, and
Speaker 1: then lo and behold two three other guys show up
Speaker 1: that felt like played a little bit better you know
Speaker 1: with this group? Did did it? Did it? Appear to you,
Speaker 1: Dave did anything? Did Needy's offensive lineman the kid from
Speaker 1: USC stood out too? Yeah? You you just could I
Speaker 1: kill you on one. I was going to ask you
Speaker 1: a question and I think you just answered it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it from my perspective, is there a higher riser
Speaker 1: than Risener? Like he's a guy I wasn't hearing a
Speaker 1: lot about, which, granted there might be some talk about
Speaker 1: him playing another position, and I honestly I still like
Speaker 1: him at a better position or a death position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: believe it's a center. Yeah, I see him as a center.
Speaker 1: He played center's entire life and then until a sophomore
Speaker 1: year at Kansas State and they moved outside the right tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and he doesn't. He looks like a center
Speaker 1: just you know, he's got the barrel chest, he's got
Speaker 1: uh you know, just looking at him as he has
Speaker 1: the look of a center. But he held his own
Speaker 1: at I mean, yeah, yeah, I still, if I'm projecting
Speaker 1: him forward long term, I like him best inside. Um,
Speaker 1: I dre are some NFL teams that will disagree. They're
Speaker 1: gonna keep my tackle until he right tackle probably yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's never played left tackle. Yeah, of course, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think right tackles probably where he's how much did
Speaker 1: he help is stuck last week? I think he because
Speaker 1: he went into the week as a kind of divisive player,
Speaker 1: because some people really like him. See, people were kind
Speaker 1: of questioning him. I think he swayed some of the doubters, um,
Speaker 1: and so I think he went from a you know,
Speaker 1: possible late second, early third to a you know, early second.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets in the first round. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's certainly possible. I loved like everything I saw from
Speaker 1: him in a non football aspect. I loved too like
Speaker 1: enthusiastic guy. He chased down John Elway to like you know,
Speaker 1: basically fanboy, and and he's got like a mean streak. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was impressed with him. But then the reason I
Speaker 1: say you answered my question is obviously everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: the USC kid coming out of that. Yeah. The footwork
Speaker 1: was incredible for that kid, easy foot quickness. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, thinking about the USC offense this year, it
Speaker 1: was a lackluster performance by that offense, and the offensive
Speaker 1: line was a big part of that. Right, And so
Speaker 1: kind of removing him from that bad situation with the Trojans,
Speaker 1: right and getting a chance to go, you know, because
Speaker 1: offensive line play it's a unit, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: it's hard to really remove him until you get to
Speaker 1: a senior bowl setting and he's going doing one on
Speaker 1: ones against pass rushers and no one's beating him around
Speaker 1: the end. No, no, nobody could get around yet, and
Speaker 1: no one's bullying him, nobody, exactly. He's got the core strength,
Speaker 1: he used his hands well, he's got length, the foot
Speaker 1: quickness is easy. He moves so well though. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: he just relaxed. He never looked like he was pressured
Speaker 1: or frazzled by the way he was when they were
Speaker 1: one on one pass rushing him. And he's not he's
Speaker 1: not even sixty four, he's sixty three and three quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's got thirty five in charms. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: can keep him off him though, exactly. So I think
Speaker 1: when we going back to the original question, yeah, Andre Dillard,
Speaker 1: I think people caught up to him. Okay, if that's
Speaker 1: what you want to say, Yeah, if you want to say,
Speaker 1: I'll say that. I think I think that Dillard. I
Speaker 1: don't think Dillard was terrible, but I saw other guys
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking, Okay, well, I need to I need
Speaker 1: to catch up with this guy. I need to catch
Speaker 1: up with this guy. Okay, well yeah, if you had
Speaker 1: to say your top three senior offensive linemen right now,
Speaker 1: where does Dillard fall on the top three? Is Riisener
Speaker 1: ahead of him? Right? I got Riisener ahead of him
Speaker 1: right now? Now I do as a tackle as a
Speaker 1: tackle okay, yeah I do. I still lean Dillard, Um,
Speaker 1: but you know I I think Riisener helped himself, no question, um.
Speaker 1: Garrett Bradbury, Yeah, from NC State. Yeah, that we both
Speaker 1: really like. I'll tell you what now, Bradbury, I watched
Speaker 1: him on tape this morning, and I I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what though, tight end, there's there's some there's some traits
Speaker 1: there where you're going this guy. I mean, some of
Speaker 1: these centers have been selected in late in the late
Speaker 1: well middle of the late one. I think he's just
Speaker 1: as good. You know who was the kid I was
Speaker 1: talking about last year that I brought up to you
Speaker 1: in the in the pre show meeting there, James Daniels,
Speaker 1: James Samuels Otowa. Yeah, yeah, guys snatching three techniques. He
Speaker 1: went second level block or early second round of the Bears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying that this year I had a
Speaker 1: first round grade on him. Though. That's that's good. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the athletic ability with that. We thought he
Speaker 1: could go as early as the teens. Yeah, talked about
Speaker 1: him as a possibility at nineteen, right, exactly. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I think, you know, with Bradbury, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a fit for everybody more. I think more of
Speaker 1: his own blocking scheme. Good athlete's ridiculous athlete again, four
Speaker 1: second level, cutting people in half. You know what's funny
Speaker 1: because he always wanted to play tight end. You know,
Speaker 1: he kind of pushed away the thought of moving the
Speaker 1: offensive line. He finally moves the offensive line, and he
Speaker 1: kind of once he embraced the position, he really came
Speaker 1: into his own. And he's the top center this year.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think he's a top fifty draft pick.
Speaker 1: So Dillard, Bradbury, Reisner, maybe those are the top three
Speaker 1: senior offen cycles for me. But Chuma Adoga definitely Adoga. Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. He would have probably been
Speaker 1: a good uh, he'd have been a good tell me
Speaker 1: more guy. Yeah, I know we'll get that going out
Speaker 1: to the combine. Future kids trying to decide whether or
Speaker 1: not to go to the Senior Bolt. Look at a
Speaker 1: guy like Adoga, the way he can help himself, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna he made some money based on
Speaker 1: what he did in Mobile. What are the questions you
Speaker 1: got there? Uh? Small school guys, you know, non FBS players.
Speaker 1: I going back to the fall, my top three small
Speaker 1: school guys were and see her Adderly won Delaware safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that nothing changed there. Titus Howard attacked from
Speaker 1: Alabama store he played well, good feet, Yeah, another former
Speaker 1: tight end, absolutely m and then third was Kaylin Saunders
Speaker 1: from Western Illinois. And to me, yeah, to me, those
Speaker 1: top three didn't change. Those are the top three small
Speaker 1: school guys. A couple of the guys stood out for me,
Speaker 1: but the top three for me, Uh, has not changed.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with the top three? Yeah? The guy
Speaker 1: I think ad I you know, we're looking at Utterly
Speaker 1: as first round pick. I have him, I think in
Speaker 1: the twenties on my board, so I think he certainly
Speaker 1: could go. This goes which I trust your evaluations completely.
Speaker 1: This goes back to the point I made last week,
Speaker 1: is like, when you're talking purely Senior Bowl guys, recency bias.
Speaker 1: I guess you know, you're like, well, this is the
Speaker 1: best guy at the Senior Bowl. He's probably a first
Speaker 1: round pick, and that's not always true. So I'm always
Speaker 1: trying to judge, like I'm interested to see how he
Speaker 1: stacks up. Once you start looking at the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: the question is is he the where's he stack with
Speaker 1: the safeties? Because to me, he's the top safety this year.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm gonna be beating with Yante Thompson from Alabama,
Speaker 1: Taylor rat from Washington. Where does he fit? I don't
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be consensus. I think he'll be the
Speaker 1: top safety for some teams. Other teams might prefer one
Speaker 1: of those other guys. The fact that people were he
Speaker 1: could play in the slot. The interception he got in
Speaker 1: that game was playing in the slot. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And he has some trouble at times during one on
Speaker 1: ones with some of the receiver. Penny Hart got him
Speaker 1: a couple of times. He got a lot of pigs though, exactly.
Speaker 1: And it's talk about small school guy and say he
Speaker 1: had a nice week. Yeah, Penny penny Hart. You know scouts,
Speaker 1: No penny Hart, you know penny Hart. Guys like me
Speaker 1: coming to the party right now are learning about Penny Hart.
Speaker 1: He I think he played better than most expected too. Though.
Speaker 1: Um you know he's a guy that he splashes a
Speaker 1: freshman at Georgia State and then you know he he
Speaker 1: looked okay the past few years, but you know, he
Speaker 1: really made his presence known with what he did this
Speaker 1: past week in Mobile. Another wide receiver, Keelan Doss from
Speaker 1: UC Davis, a guy who he's not gonna run really
Speaker 1: well or not gonna run exceptional, but he's such a
Speaker 1: polish route runner. He just has like a keen understanding
Speaker 1: of how to uncover. You know, he knows how, he
Speaker 1: knows how to play get wide receivers, get their hips turned,
Speaker 1: get them leaning, and he gives a target to his quarterback.
Speaker 1: And he's got strong, sticky hands. So I think Keelan
Speaker 1: Doss is a guy who at the combine probably not
Speaker 1: gonna show out, but what he did at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bull is going to help him. You wouldn't, I mean,
Speaker 1: the old Dominion kids doing anything for you at all.
Speaker 1: I like I think the wide receiver Fulham, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's he's got an interesting story because he he
Speaker 1: didn't play football untiling his junior year in high school.
Speaker 1: He's a basketball guy. He's just coming into his own.
Speaker 1: He's an ascending player. Yeah, I was just kind of
Speaker 1: like you said, I Doss was really interesting me. We've
Speaker 1: talked a bunch about Andy Isabella though, you know, you mask,
Speaker 1: you don't really have to go that route on that.
Speaker 1: I mean about Okay, we part him the say he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt, so we couldn't see
Speaker 1: him play in the in the actual uh game itself. Okay,
Speaker 1: what other questions you have this? Well it kind of
Speaker 1: transitions to who was the top wide receiver in mobile? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about Andy Isabella, deebo see Hill kind
Speaker 1: of stole the top spot. He stole the practices, for sure,
Speaker 1: he did. They and they tried to target him in
Speaker 1: the game, and they couldn't get him the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they couldn't get him the ball one catch for fifteen years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it really it wasn't a lack of trying there,
Speaker 1: I mean, but they they tried to target the guy
Speaker 1: that The guy that showed up was Hunter Renfro shocking.
Speaker 1: Hunter Ripro showed up India Sabella showed up. Mom hands, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mom hands Dane sounds exasperated. He's like, yeah, I know, No, Well,
Speaker 1: it's just he's a guy that you're gonna count out,
Speaker 1: and you know, but he's gonna be a Day three
Speaker 1: draft pick. And we're talking about right Clemson. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: Debo is gonna be a Day two draft pick. And
Speaker 1: he slapped everything. Okay, let me ask you this day,
Speaker 1: slapping guys up and down the field all weeks. If
Speaker 1: Dane told you could get him at fifty eight, are
Speaker 1: you considering that. I'm not considering anything. I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: I'm there, Okay, podium, Okay, yes, you're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go receiver at fifty eight. I'm gonna apologize, obviously,
Speaker 1: and this will change. We don't know what free agency
Speaker 1: holds for the Cowboys. Obesley might be back on this team,
Speaker 1: in which case I'm not drafting receiver at fifty eight.
Speaker 1: But if you had to go draft a receiver fifty eight,
Speaker 1: going to beat that drum until I can't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: Like that's just I've decided to do it. That might
Speaker 1: be a journey that I take on my own. And
Speaker 1: that's okay. This guy's a hell of a football player.
Speaker 1: But I went back and watched the South Carolina tape.
Speaker 1: He plays with a lot of guts and he can play.
Speaker 1: He does, he does. I mean it's raining and he's can't.
Speaker 1: I mean he's you know, they're throwing the ball. He
Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass. And the Georgia game, he's going
Speaker 1: up against Baker, he's running routes against him. Good competition.
Speaker 1: He can play big like he can do the back
Speaker 1: shoulder stuff. Oh yeah, play out like a running back.
Speaker 1: He's five eleven and a half two hundred and sixteen pounds,
Speaker 1: so he's built like a running back. Really thick, physical
Speaker 1: hum and he also returned man. Yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: has tied the SEC record with four returns over his
Speaker 1: career for touchdowns. So versatile can help you in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. And really good as a yak. So
Speaker 1: he could replace He could replace your slot receiver and
Speaker 1: your punt return. Absolutely about Austin, yeah, absolutely, nowhere near
Speaker 1: is fast, don't care. Yes, good looking physically too, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't look slight and small and all that.
Speaker 1: So he's he's a good looking kid. I go and
Speaker 1: I got I can't you know. I come at it
Speaker 1: from the fans perspective. Y'all are the analysts. I Dane Is,
Speaker 1: I go in stages of having like draft crushes, like
Speaker 1: you know, uh it was Lakwan Treadwell at this time
Speaker 1: three years ago. We're in that albatross, aren't you. Of course? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you're not always gonna be right. Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: I got a lot of him around my nick. But
Speaker 1: and in January of twenty nineteen, Debo's my guy. I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'll have another guy a month from now, but
Speaker 1: I really like Debo. DJ Moore had a pretty decent
Speaker 1: rookie season, That's all I'm saying. So about the Sills. Yeah,
Speaker 1: West Virginia, I'm telling you this is this is this
Speaker 1: year's Cooper Cup. M M. You know, and I and Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this because of white wide receiver to
Speaker 1: white wide receiver. I'm not doing that. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about a guy that can separate, a guy that can
Speaker 1: go get the football. You say it, back shoulder catch.
Speaker 1: He made that game the other day. Yeah, he and
Speaker 1: the side the extent sideline catch. You guys are getting
Speaker 1: on me about this cat. I'm just telling you this
Speaker 1: guy's who's getting on you about him. Dane gives me
Speaker 1: that little apparently talking no, no, Dane. I've been with
Speaker 1: Dane long enough to know when he gives me that look.
Speaker 1: Scouts give looks like that to each other all the time, like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? He's being polite. It's fine. No, he
Speaker 1: could be mean. I don't know. We just do you
Speaker 1: like him on more than I do I with Sills.
Speaker 1: I think he needs I worry about the play strength.
Speaker 1: I think he gets out muscled a lot, and I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna really he catches everything thrown in his direction.
Speaker 1: He for a former quarterback he is does a really
Speaker 1: nice job judging the football and finishing he does, no question.
Speaker 1: I just he made that quarterback there at West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Throwing him the ball, he helped him, no question. I
Speaker 1: think he I'm not even sure he's the best West
Speaker 1: Virginia wide receiver in this Oh, I don't know Gary
Speaker 1: Jennings at a heck of a week. Yeah, in mobile,
Speaker 1: I like Gary Jennings a lot. Why didn't I notice
Speaker 1: Gary Jennings more? Then? Maybe I wasn't scouting well enough.
Speaker 1: Right number twelve, there's two hundred saw he caught a
Speaker 1: nice I did he did catch a nice in the
Speaker 1: game though they found him though on a he ran
Speaker 1: right through I mean right through the coverage to get
Speaker 1: and to snatch a ball. The difference between from me
Speaker 1: between and like a Cooper Cup is the route running.
Speaker 1: And I'm not doing it again because I know the
Speaker 1: skin color. I'm just saying the type of player he is.
Speaker 1: I just for everybody loses their mind out there, Stills
Speaker 1: as a route runner just needs a lot of work
Speaker 1: for me, and I just I don't know. I finished
Speaker 1: though Dane to finish, he he does a nice think
Speaker 1: you don't think you don't think I like him. You
Speaker 1: don't think he could escape in the NFL. I like him,
Speaker 1: I just don't like I don't see him as the
Speaker 1: top one hundred pick, okay, which Cooper Cup absolutely was. Yes,
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup's a really good player too. Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 1: I just talking about Finnish catch the ball he does
Speaker 1: to ye he does. Dane's tell me body size and
Speaker 1: all that stuff like that. One more question for me, man,
Speaker 1: All right, Well we got to talk about the quarterbacks. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought the heavyweight match was Drew Lock
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who would look better? And I don't think
Speaker 1: either really looked great. It was nervous about that one. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just it's the process of figuring out these quarterbacks
Speaker 1: is you know, last year, I think we had a
Speaker 1: good feel. You know, we love Darnold, we love Baker. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, some questions about Alan's quite about Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: but you know we had a good feel for those guys.
Speaker 1: I thought pretty early in the process, or you know,
Speaker 1: at least by March. I think it's going to take
Speaker 1: the entire process to figure these guys out fully. Uh,
Speaker 1: trying to be optimistic about him, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: here for that. I'm gonna ask you a question that
Speaker 1: you hate. He's not here for that. I like that.
Speaker 1: They're gonna hate it. You're gonna hate this question, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonn That's why I'm gonna ask it. If you
Speaker 1: need to wait real quick, you need a quarterback. You're
Speaker 1: nervous in this thing, You've better be. Yeah, that's my point. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Oh So that whole thing about training Dak for the
Speaker 1: for ten, well, no, are gonna bring that up. We
Speaker 1: don't do we want to do that today because for
Speaker 1: an hour, Oh no, that's an hour show that that's
Speaker 1: an hour show. We let somewhere Stephen Thomas is I'm
Speaker 1: really smiling. Brought us and I had a fascinating conversation yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh he's in on it because I called him up
Speaker 1: on the way home last night. We're talking about it.
Speaker 1: We don't we don't need to do that right now.
Speaker 1: Might you tease it for one day? But it is
Speaker 1: a fascinating conversation to be had about what's the best
Speaker 1: way to win in the NFL? Right, cheap quarterback? Cheap quarterback?
Speaker 1: How do you know is there a team that has
Speaker 1: the guts to recognize the team that the owner is
Speaker 1: the general man not pay the quarterback, which, like that
Speaker 1: sounds terrible. I am a big Dak Prescott fan. I'm
Speaker 1: all in favor of the Cowboys paying him. Right there
Speaker 1: is an argument to be made you if you trust
Speaker 1: yourself to find another one, if you got Dame Burglers
Speaker 1: in your room, then you could sustain success over a
Speaker 1: long period of time by not paying a quarterback. Which
Speaker 1: goes back to my question again, we can we can
Speaker 1: go into full that'd be a full another show for
Speaker 1: that one. But how many quarterbacks in this draft class
Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable drafting in the top ten one one,
Speaker 1: and I don't even honestly, I don't even feel great
Speaker 1: about that. You don't feel great about Haskins. I like Haskins,
Speaker 1: I don't love him. I'm great, Okay, great, might be
Speaker 1: it's stretched, but I feel relatively confident that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good player based on basically nothing. But I
Speaker 1: just one quarterback, only one, and I don't even feel
Speaker 1: great about that. I don't. I mean, I like Dayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: but he ain't making that trade? All right? Well, and
Speaker 1: do you really like nothing? No offense against this group,
Speaker 1: but do you trust them to pick a quarterback at ten? Overall?
Speaker 1: If I was picking in that room, you shouldn't trust me.
Speaker 1: I mean this for sure. This team tried to draft Packston,
Speaker 1: Lynch and Connor Cook before they fell into Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Although I will say, oh yeah, that is a good point.
Speaker 1: They tried everything possible to not draft Dak the true
Speaker 1: but then they fired the guy they helped draft him.
Speaker 1: Their track record in the first round is really good, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you weigh that out? I mean, because I
Speaker 1: have a quarterbacks a different animal exactly. You have to
Speaker 1: remove quarterback from the conversation. And if there's a quarterback
Speaker 1: it's available at ten, there's probably a reason he's there. Well,
Speaker 1: so if you're a team at six, all right, if
Speaker 1: you're a team that needs quarterback, okay, let's do any
Speaker 1: team you're You're not, if you're any team, you're Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: You're not. You're just gonna You're just not gonna. You're
Speaker 1: gonna draft one of these guys. No, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance the Giants pass. No, there's a good chance the
Speaker 1: Jaguars go with the Folds or Flacco off, like, and
Speaker 1: it's already made. It's frustrating because I want the answer now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like this is all going to change in two months,
Speaker 1: Like somebody that needs a quarterback right now won't need
Speaker 1: one in mid March. I'm working on I have a
Speaker 1: mock coming out on Monday day after the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't do with these quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray is the ultimate wild card. Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones received a first round grade from the Advisory Committee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, I've heard a lot of positive reports from scouts.
Speaker 1: They're optimistic about him. And then you have Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 1: So four quarterbacks. Good chance they'll go first round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're not feeling great about is it's I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and I have I have barely seen any of these
Speaker 1: guys other than, like you know, I watched a lot
Speaker 1: of Ohio State football in the fall, and I was
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, so I saw Jones and Lock.
Speaker 1: But like, no way not for quarterback desperation does not
Speaker 1: take a year off. It doesn't. But that's the that's
Speaker 1: the point. It's like, yeah, I need to take it.
Speaker 1: I need to take a little way off here, but
Speaker 1: I gotta go to break real quick. I know we
Speaker 1: need to go to break. But keep that in mind
Speaker 1: because the quarterback class next year looks real, real good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: always does, always, especially da quarterback. All right, when we
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Speaker 1: this is this is fitting because we just sort of
Speaker 1: talked about it, so I have an inkling of where
Speaker 1: we're going to go here. But Clark wants to know Clark,
Speaker 1: who do we Clark? You serious? Clark? Serious? Clark? Who
Speaker 1: do we think will be the biggest reach in this draft? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just getting into the meat of it in January.
Speaker 1: I think it starts with it. I mean a quarterbacks quarterbacks, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know Kyler Murray goes number one overall. I
Speaker 1: mean there's a ground swell of opinion that Kyler Murray's
Speaker 1: if he goes to the the Raiders at four Z that
Speaker 1: a reach. I think so, but you know he's he's
Speaker 1: a true wild card because I mean, am I crazy?
Speaker 1: If I'd rather like I think I'd rather take a
Speaker 1: chance that Kyler Murray is not a reach than one
Speaker 1: of these Senior Bowl guys. I get it, Like you're
Speaker 1: going with the going with the higher upside. I know
Speaker 1: it is such a mistake to associate a program with
Speaker 1: a player. I get that, I understand, But like, all
Speaker 1: I can think about is Blaine Gabbert. That's all I
Speaker 1: can think of. You guys are gonna Dane. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna like me for this. But I think that Florida
Speaker 1: defensive end Polite White, if some he takes him in
Speaker 1: the first round, I think he's got heartbreaker written all
Speaker 1: over him. But I might get in trouble for saying that. No,
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I might get in troubled
Speaker 1: that he might. He might turn out to be Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be Bosa. But you never said
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa was gonna be a heartbreaker. I never said
Speaker 1: had him as a top ten player on my thing.
Speaker 1: Like I hated the guy, I wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 1: Polite is the player we're talking about. Yeah, Florida, if
Speaker 1: he had double digit saxes rookie year. Oh see, this
Speaker 1: is this is the fun thing, that this is the
Speaker 1: fun side of scouting when you have one guy that
Speaker 1: kind of I have. I have a second round grade
Speaker 1: on him, and you've got him in your top twelve, right, fifteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, that's what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 1: it's got to be a quarterback, because I think we
Speaker 1: went about Oliver Oliver, the defensive tackle from Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can justify in the top ten.
Speaker 1: I mean, but people are gonna compare him. Did you
Speaker 1: see Lance Zeroline talking about moving him to linebacker? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not great like people keep an open mind
Speaker 1: with No, He's always keep an open mind. Was scouting always.
Speaker 1: I was not bringing it up to suggest that it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Yeah, exactly, And I think
Speaker 1: it's scouts are kind of they don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with that Oliver because he's when they went through
Speaker 1: Houston in October, he was two hundred and seventy four pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and looking at his body type, they really question can
Speaker 1: he hold to eighty comfortably? Yea? And so is he
Speaker 1: a true interior player in the NFL? Can he? Mean,
Speaker 1: it's a big jump facing AC offensive lines compared to
Speaker 1: NFL offensive lines or would he be better. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he can do it, but is he better
Speaker 1: suited trying to drop some weight and playing in a
Speaker 1: different position. I don't think he's an end because I
Speaker 1: don't think he does in the length. When long arm
Speaker 1: blockers get into him, he struggles, So I don't think
Speaker 1: he's a defensive end. I'm keeping him as close to
Speaker 1: the ball as possible, but I understand those are keeping
Speaker 1: an open mind about maybe moving around a little bit,
Speaker 1: so I look, I get it people they had Oliver
Speaker 1: discussion debate. It's gonna get tired after a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I think he's a good football player who I'm
Speaker 1: just keeping as close to the ball as possible. And
Speaker 1: I understand the concerns. He's not Aaron Donald. It's an
Speaker 1: injustice to for him because people are gonna expect Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald like production and performance and that's just not who
Speaker 1: he is. You never got to scout le Roy Glover,
Speaker 1: did you? That was before my time? That was that
Speaker 1: was me, that was my era, my guy. Yeah, Leroy
Speaker 1: Glover though, is he a Pro Bowl player? He was
Speaker 1: at for three years in a row. Here, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think that's at Oliver? You know what in the way
Speaker 1: you describe at all. And I've seen the player. I mean,
Speaker 1: he reminds me he's got some traits like the change
Speaker 1: of direction, you know, the ability to chase the feed
Speaker 1: blocker right off the snap. Those are the things le
Speaker 1: Roy Glover was able to do. Roy Glover, though, wasn't
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Well that's but but you know
Speaker 1: he played, he played. He was a like a three
Speaker 1: technique undertackle that Bill Parcels put it nose. He made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls and nose as usual at this time
Speaker 1: of year. I've seen him slotted everywhere between like fifth
Speaker 1: overall and the back end of the first round. So see,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That might rounder. Yeah, San Diego State. No.
Speaker 1: And I think you know I was talking. I was
Speaker 1: doing Um Brown's radio this morning and talking about options
Speaker 1: at seventeen thousand radio shows you do today, I try
Speaker 1: to cut down. I gotta get some work done at seventeen.
Speaker 1: I mentioned at Oliver's a real possibility, and they're, what, No,
Speaker 1: he's a top ten He easily be there at seventeen.
Speaker 1: And if he is, he'd be that'd be not a
Speaker 1: bit fit for them up more. Okay, is he the
Speaker 1: polarizing player on defense. Is he the one that's gonna
Speaker 1: be if we have if we have the quarterback, the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray as the offensive guy, who is
Speaker 1: who's the defensive guy. I don't know. You just you
Speaker 1: think polite is a bust and he thinks he's a
Speaker 1: rookie of the Year. I didn't call m a bus.
Speaker 1: I said, I thought he was like a second round guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think he's in that man. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Dexter Lawrence. Dexter Lawrence another one. People are
Speaker 1: gonna be all over the map on him. I haven't
Speaker 1: a second round grade on him. Yeah, well I do too,
Speaker 1: So he might end up like one of those Washington guys.
Speaker 1: You know, the Redskins strapped those Alabama kids and nexting
Speaker 1: you know they're like playing going to test well. So no,
Speaker 1: I think this this draft. We don't say this every year,
Speaker 1: but I mean this draft, more than other drafts, I think,
Speaker 1: is more wide variants of opinions on a lot of it.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no clear cut he's the top this
Speaker 1: or you know he's not. He's the top pastro or
Speaker 1: I think Nick Boss top pass rusher. But he's the
Speaker 1: top tackle, he's the top wide receiver, he's the top
Speaker 1: tight end. There's a lot of different opinions, you know,
Speaker 1: Noah Fan, t J. Hawkinson, Which one do you prefer? So,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot. Who's the top linebackers? It
Speaker 1: Devin White, which, okay, you're given me, you're given me
Speaker 1: in a segue here, which trying we're trying to get
Speaker 1: to the people's questions. So yeah, yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: great Converni Ministro says ministro Or is it maestro? It
Speaker 1: says Ministro Instron. I like it when people use their
Speaker 1: real names. But that's uh, pre combine, he says, pre combine.
Speaker 1: We're there, best slot, best tight end, best three tech,
Speaker 1: best tight end, and draft that's what he says. P CJ. Hawkinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Hawkinson, Iowa, Iowa or Fan It depends on which.
Speaker 1: I also yea and Fan. Fan's gonna blow up the combine.
Speaker 1: He's gonna jump feet one inches and he's gonna test
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, I think TJ. Hawkins is the best
Speaker 1: tight in Yeah, but both tight ends could easily go
Speaker 1: in the first round, which has never happened before, you know,
Speaker 1: from the same program. So now that's possibility. Top slot.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I think some of these wide receivers
Speaker 1: could play in this slot. But if we're talking about
Speaker 1: a true slot player, it's gotta be your guy, you
Speaker 1: mash right, I don't like, do you consider Deebo Samuel slot? See,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and that's I love, I love.
Speaker 1: I would take Samuel over. That's the bell every day.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough because you're talking about, well
Speaker 1: he can do both or a true slot receiver a J.
Speaker 1: Brown and will Miss. That's all he did, That's all
Speaker 1: he all he did was he's absolutely right about that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think you can project outside, but you
Speaker 1: could just plug him in a slot and you'd be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you know, I think the slot questions a little.
Speaker 1: It's a little tough because I think a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys could play in the slot just fine. I
Speaker 1: mean even the guy like nikkil Harry played the slot
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, he could do it. Yeah, so tall
Speaker 1: guy doing that though, if we're talking about slot only, yeah, Isabella, yeah,
Speaker 1: Isabella then Hart, Penny Hart, Yeah, I would say both
Speaker 1: those guys I think are right there. What about the
Speaker 1: three tech Oliver. It's gotta be Oliver right now, right?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna play Gary? He's he's an edge.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. You're not gonna play him, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna transplay. There's zero tape on him inside. You're
Speaker 1: projecting guys to play that. You're you're you're projecting a
Speaker 1: wide receiver at Georgia to play corner. But why are
Speaker 1: we moving him inside? Why are we moving him inside?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking why are we moving him inside? I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, because he's two hundred and eighty five
Speaker 1: pounds and I see how he wins on the first step. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got but he's got the Do you see him
Speaker 1: as a right end or a left end? He can
Speaker 1: play either. He's got the power. He plays with quickness.
Speaker 1: I mean, why why can't he not play either side? See?
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, But I think though I look,
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I am upset. I thought I saw it.
Speaker 1: There were some snaps where they reduced him down inside.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it was against Northwestern or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: He was I'm not I'm not trying to just guess. No,
Speaker 1: I mean he played something like like ninety seven percent
Speaker 1: snaps as an end as an end, something like that.
Speaker 1: So he did. There were a few snaps inside, but
Speaker 1: predominantly he is. He's a really good player too. Brian,
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate this question from Braden, which is why
Speaker 1: I wanted to check and really fast wide receivers to
Speaker 1: play corner. Nicole Hartman, Hartman, I know, I know you're
Speaker 1: gonna hate this. Yeah, Brad says you've got a d tackle,
Speaker 1: a tight end, and a safety, all similarly rated available
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. Pie in the sky. This cowboys, right? Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: all cowboys right? Who are you taking defensive tackle? Didn't
Speaker 1: even hesitate. This team's got issues. There is that they
Speaker 1: had issues. There isn't act. It is that recency bias
Speaker 1: because they got owned by the Rams at all. Look
Speaker 1: at you don't think they played well more off in
Speaker 1: the not during the season. Yeah, but look at the
Speaker 1: condition of Okay, do you want to continue to go
Speaker 1: on with Reid Ross no banged up and whose contract
Speaker 1: is up next year? Do you want to keep moving
Speaker 1: Crawford inside to tackle? I do not, okay, but I
Speaker 1: always better you better figure out what's and Dave and
Speaker 1: David Irving gave you absolutely nothing this year. I really
Speaker 1: like the idea of having a better safety back there though.
Speaker 1: Oh we could get one from the Great Northwest if
Speaker 1: you want. Whose home is. He's not from the Great Northwest.
Speaker 1: He made a career playing in the Great Northwest. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: but that's we're just assuming the team is the team
Speaker 1: right now? What do you think you fix this? You
Speaker 1: fix the three So it's hard to say position like
Speaker 1: I need to know players, you know, Like that's I
Speaker 1: know it's y'all are gonna hate the question because he's
Speaker 1: basically saying, which of those three positions you take? Chillery
Speaker 1: over over whatever? Second round I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: a second round safety that I saw, like a wan Thornhill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I've only done a few of those safeties,
Speaker 1: but I don't have anybody Atterie is the one guy
Speaker 1: I've done. Yeah, but okay, Tillery and then who else?
Speaker 1: We come about? Tight end? Yeah, which I have Sternberger.
Speaker 1: I look from an m okay, yeah, question you you
Speaker 1: probably like you said, what's the bad guy? Right? Is
Speaker 1: something going on with Hillary? Here's character stuff? You? Um,
Speaker 1: which one is he? Sorry? Yeah? Um, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'd lean d tackle in terms of I think they're
Speaker 1: a mess here right now right and not because they
Speaker 1: got gashed and against Colts and Rams. Oh, I hear you.
Speaker 1: They need they need depth there and then well we're
Speaker 1: preferably a better starter. Malie Collins isn't a contractor year
Speaker 1: like I get it. I'm not. He's been banged up,
Speaker 1: playing as best he can banged up. But you got
Speaker 1: the human log in there playing well too true. I know,
Speaker 1: I feel I'm sorry if you're nude to our show.
Speaker 1: I feel good about this year's D tackle class where
Speaker 1: if I don't get a guy in the second round,
Speaker 1: I feel good about the guy and get a third.
Speaker 1: I find get Dale and Mac in the third round.
Speaker 1: Daniel real because he's gonna put up some Daleen Mac
Speaker 1: highlights where you're right here, En, I mean, I bet
Speaker 1: she does that. Aggies fans watching along with us. Aggies
Speaker 1: fans know all about him. A guy who was highly recruited,
Speaker 1: didn't that there. It is the way he played this
Speaker 1: year and at the Senior Bowl. You know it's again
Speaker 1: my Javon Hargrave comparison I think makes sense. Also, I know,
Speaker 1: I mean the difference between fifty eight and sixty seven
Speaker 1: is not much. I understand that that's where Malie Collins
Speaker 1: was drafted, but I I got to see the Cowboys
Speaker 1: use their first available pick on a defensive tack. They
Speaker 1: want to believe that they would do they would never
Speaker 1: use a first round pick on a defensive tackle. Which
Speaker 1: but but they're smart as they do because no, well
Speaker 1: are they? Well? It depends because I mean the Vita
Speaker 1: Vea picks a first round pick not looking great right,
Speaker 1: that last year not looking great? Right? Because I did,
Speaker 1: You're not, You're don't. Don't. Don't use a first round
Speaker 1: pick on a guy who can only play two downs.
Speaker 1: You didn't like to be You're right now, you're right. No,
Speaker 1: I just if I'm gonna take a defensive tackle on
Speaker 1: the first you want to cook your gold star. I
Speaker 1: need passed rush. That's but point, okay, give me pass rush,
Speaker 1: give your pass rush. And so that's why you know,
Speaker 1: so you would rather take one of these defensive INDs.
Speaker 1: Didn't didn't say a defensive tackle like Burns, Well, no,
Speaker 1: but Florida State. If I'm taking a defensive tackle like him, okay,
Speaker 1: and at Oliver Christian Wilkins, Draymond Jones like it makes
Speaker 1: sense in the first round. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine
Speaker 1: waiting until the third or fourth round to deal with
Speaker 1: that about Yeah, you said we didn't mention Wren. He
Speaker 1: had a good week. And Saunders, we talked about him
Speaker 1: a little bit, Suders, Caitlin. Saunders helped himself, so I did.
Speaker 1: Last year. Weren't there a bunch of really good one techniques?
Speaker 1: We kept shilling four, Yes, we kept shilling for Remember
Speaker 1: of the draft. Carbridge were like, well, I gotta take
Speaker 1: Pounaford here, don't they? Podad I said, Punaford's named seventy
Speaker 1: five times. Decent, had a pretty decent little season for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. An undrafted Yeah, as we're trying, oh what
Speaker 1: Seahawks or just not Dane Dane Brugler. Most of us
Speaker 1: brought us, Yeah, most of us on the outside pouting
Speaker 1: Ford a good tape. He's a good player. He just
Speaker 1: didn't get it. We saw check live, We saw him live.
Speaker 1: He's short exactly. The d tackle for this team is
Speaker 1: the great, the great vexation like it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a yearly thought. Yeah, I know, that's that's a big
Speaker 1: polar vexation, big word for you if I would the
Speaker 1: same place you would. He could have made that up
Speaker 1: and I'd be Yeah, sounds ramon guys. Frustration. It's a
Speaker 1: frustrating thing to talk about. Okay, thanks Dave. You can
Speaker 1: talk about until you're blue in the face. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna change the way they see it. I
Speaker 1: Like I said, I would have to see them use
Speaker 1: fifty eight on a d tackle to believe it. And
Speaker 1: it's not saying that they won't or they can't, but
Speaker 1: I just got to see it. I just what position
Speaker 1: would surprise you at fifty eight? I'm not saying take
Speaker 1: out quarterback. Take quarterback At the minute I wrote about
Speaker 1: that this week is nothing they are running back running
Speaker 1: back would not wouldn't surprise me at all, would not
Speaker 1: surprise me at all they did. They got nothing from
Speaker 1: their back cups this year, and and look around the
Speaker 1: league at at what some of these backup running backs
Speaker 1: are doing. I mean Alvin Kamara is, strictly speaking, is
Speaker 1: a backup. He's a third round. You get, you get
Speaker 1: a guy with a different skill set than Zeke who
Speaker 1: can run inside but also catch the ball. Uh. Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel comes to mind. Like there are guys out there
Speaker 1: who who could compliment Zeke? Who you know, it actually
Speaker 1: makes sense to take Zeke off the field from time
Speaker 1: to time instead of, you know, you take Zeke off
Speaker 1: the field on this team right now you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, what are they doing? Like what, who's who's what?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Whereas if you were to spend that
Speaker 1: pick on a guy to help Zeke all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that looks pretty nice. It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Wow,
Speaker 1: that would say not saying I think there's better ways
Speaker 1: you can use that you would you would you bash
Speaker 1: them if they took a running back at fifty eight?
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely I would. It's poor use of your management. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Look and if they got Devin Singletary, who's my number
Speaker 1: two back and all that, if you bash them for Singletary,
Speaker 1: I'd bash you. Well, he's look at la Seawan McCoy
Speaker 1: type of player, Damn son NFL rushing champ, that type
Speaker 1: of player. He's really good. But again we talk about
Speaker 1: using your assets. I don't think it's a wise move.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only gonna get X amount of touches.
Speaker 1: And unless you are already if you're saying, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna move on from Zeke winn as
Speaker 1: contracts though, you know, like maybe if you're thinking that
Speaker 1: far ahead, yeah, maybe, but I don't know, man, it's
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's dumb to compare even, but like
Speaker 1: it's working pretty well for Ingram and Kamara and we'll
Speaker 1: see you like if Ingram has a future in New
Speaker 1: Orleans because his contracts. You're also baking on drafting Kamara
Speaker 1: fifty also beat up. That's that's that's like a team
Speaker 1: saying we'll wait till the fourth to get Dak Do
Speaker 1: I think? Do I to trade him earlier? You didn't
Speaker 1: want to do that. I do not think pick fifty
Speaker 1: eight would be the best I don't think that would
Speaker 1: be the best way to use pick fifty eight, But
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked, especially if it fell that
Speaker 1: way if the absolute best player on your board was
Speaker 1: a running back, especially you're supposedly bringing in a new
Speaker 1: young offensive coordinator who's gonna shake things up, Like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe hey, Kellen Moore, all right, love something with this
Speaker 1: badass running back. Look at the Rams A team in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Todd Gurley went down, They signed CG.
Speaker 1: Anderson off the street. I hear you, very good. I
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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody out there is hanging out with us today,
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Speaker 1: we'll get into all your your questions, your names, things
Speaker 1: like that. Dave News Oh sorry, yeah, well our buddy
Speaker 1: Tom Pella sero, which excuse me, NFL network gonna be good. Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's super Bowl week, but Draft News never stopped.
Speaker 1: So you know the rule that the the NFL put
Speaker 1: in place, you know, they can bar you from the
Speaker 1: combine for past violence incidents, right, Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: famous story about that. Yeah, it sounds like as he's reporting,
Speaker 1: there's only two known guys that that that applies to
Speaker 1: this year, and it's it's Mississippi State d tackle Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Simmons and Colorado State receiver Preston Williams. Is they're not
Speaker 1: being in by it to the combine. Dane, I'm positive
Speaker 1: you can tell me about Williams. I think anybody that
Speaker 1: follows the draft knows that Simmons is, you know, a
Speaker 1: top ten fifteen here's my second defensive tackles behind Williams
Speaker 1: in Alabama. He's a big time prospect. So that's something
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. This is a dumb rule,
Speaker 1: like not trying to justify anything. Bad, bad decision they made. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the combine is for a chance for these teams.
Speaker 1: It's to figure these guys out, you know. And part
Speaker 1: of this interview process, and so I's doing is make
Speaker 1: an extra work for the teams to go. It's not
Speaker 1: like they're gonna A team's not gonna draft one of
Speaker 1: these guys because they're not the combine. Not being at
Speaker 1: the combine is not going to change anything for these
Speaker 1: teams looking at these players now, their way of making
Speaker 1: a stand and I get you, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: It's a by product of the combine has become so
Speaker 1: much more than the Combine. It is. Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: the must see event of the NFL offseason. There's live television,
Speaker 1: you know, for people that aren't true draft knicks. It's
Speaker 1: the first time you come from start hearing the name
Speaker 1: any of these guys, and and it's it's glorified to
Speaker 1: a degree, you know, like NFL Networks at the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl they're interviewing all these guys. They do the same
Speaker 1: thing at the combine, and it's a bad look for
Speaker 1: the league to have these guys. They're getting this publicity.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I do agree
Speaker 1: with you, that's not the point. They don't want the
Speaker 1: domestic violence questions being asked. Well, they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: want those guys to get the publicity and the potential
Speaker 1: glorification I get. And they'll get it undrafted, of course
Speaker 1: they will. But Simmons is still gonna be a first
Speaker 1: rund pick. Of course he is. But to your point
Speaker 1: is that's what the NFL does. Like they do everything
Speaker 1: they can to make all of their events not about
Speaker 1: the league, if that makes sense, you know, Like they
Speaker 1: don't care that these teams need to get these guys
Speaker 1: information and make as informed and decisions. It's always been
Speaker 1: that way. It cares, they care about what it looks
Speaker 1: like for them, and so like, well, sorry, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go to Starkville and figure this out for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and teams will all yeah, I mean all three of
Speaker 1: two teams are gonna go get digging and find out homework.
Speaker 1: I think it's stupid because it undermines the true purpose
Speaker 1: of the combine. That's exactly, that's that's my point. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, these teams have infinite resources to
Speaker 1: spend and none of them are going to bat an
Speaker 1: eyelash at flying a guy to Starkfield. So no, no, no,
Speaker 1: of course they'll take care of it. No, it's it's
Speaker 1: more pr than anything. But yeah, it is a it
Speaker 1: is a vapid not sorry to use another sat word
Speaker 1: on you, but it's it's just pure pr like that.
Speaker 1: It's pure. They only care about the looks. Yes, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's frustrating for the thirty two staffs that
Speaker 1: have to try to get a beat on these guys.
Speaker 1: And everybody can see through it, like well, I mean,
Speaker 1: the combine has always been the place where the head
Speaker 1: coach now has a chance to talk to you. The
Speaker 1: general manager with their general manager doesn't go on the road.
Speaker 1: You know, there's some teams that have general managers or
Speaker 1: directors a player personel that that don't go on the road.
Speaker 1: And so now you're taking that opportunity away from you
Speaker 1: know it, maybe the pre combine meeting, someone goes as
Speaker 1: this kid Simmons from Mississippi, State. Oh, man, tape looks great. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got album. So what kind of problems? Oh we
Speaker 1: got this hanging over. Okay, we're gonna get to talk
Speaker 1: to this guy. Oh no, we can't because they're not
Speaker 1: bringing him to the combine. And now you're now you're
Speaker 1: in a mode where you're going, Okay, why why are
Speaker 1: they not bringing him to the combine? You know? So
Speaker 1: both both players were arrested for physical altercations with a woman,
Speaker 1: Simmons in twenty sixteen, Williams in twenty seventeen. Yea and Williams.
Speaker 1: Preston Williams. He was a top recruit out of it.
Speaker 1: Went to Tennessee. Uh, didn't last long, transferred to Colorado State.
Speaker 1: He got in trouble at Tennessee, got in trouble at
Speaker 1: Colorado State. Uh, he'll be off draft boards, a lot
Speaker 1: of draft boards, and we be if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: the off field, we're talking about him as a first
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, he's that type of talent. Um So
Speaker 1: is he like our Florida guy last year? Caliah. I
Speaker 1: thought I didn't think Callaway was like a I thought
Speaker 1: he was like a second rounder. Yeah, but he was
Speaker 1: a high up there guy. Yeah, yeah, but this guy's
Speaker 1: a first rounder pick, this guy's a first um. It's
Speaker 1: just it's the all fields. It's it's that bad, so
Speaker 1: good chance he doesn't go top one hundred and someone
Speaker 1: won't take a chance on on Day three, the criminal round,
Speaker 1: fourth round, probably since An a Bengal. That's it's I
Speaker 1: struggle a team. I struggle to find the Yeah, they are,
Speaker 1: I struggle to find the balance. But I mean I
Speaker 1: on one side, I want to give the NFL some
Speaker 1: and kudos because I think that's that's important. They're drawing
Speaker 1: the line. It's important to highlight that. I think it's
Speaker 1: important that people know these things about these types of players.
Speaker 1: But again, the combine was not created to be a
Speaker 1: publicity event, not at all. You're actually hindering the purpose
Speaker 1: of it by not letting guys come to it. When
Speaker 1: I sat there in nineteen ninety two and for my
Speaker 1: first combine, I would have never, ever, ever dreamed that
Speaker 1: this was going to be on TV. Never. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like I already said this, but
Speaker 1: I agree with day and that it's pretty dumb. But
Speaker 1: these teams have such a ridiculous budget. Yeah, no, they
Speaker 1: dig up so we waste money on all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stupid things. It's not going to stop anybody from deciding
Speaker 1: whether or not they want to draft Simmons or Williams. Question.
Speaker 1: You said he had a question. I'll carry over that
Speaker 1: we wanted to get just purely selfish, purely selfish. Josh.
Speaker 1: Josh wants to know a player I like a lot
Speaker 1: a little Jordan Humphrey out of Texas. Need to watch
Speaker 1: him today, Dane? Can he play in the slot? I've
Speaker 1: seen him, but let's watch him today. I need to
Speaker 1: watch him today. Can he play in the slot? Dane?
Speaker 1: It's all he played in Texas. Let's go. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's bring him. He's all the slot receiver. He's that
Speaker 1: big slot receiver. He Have you ever seen this guy?
Speaker 1: I've seen him, I mean totally, you know, like I'll
Speaker 1: turn on a Texas game. I watched the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 1: He makes he just he makes plays. He's not He's
Speaker 1: not a typical slot receiver. No, not at all. And
Speaker 1: and why do you think he has so much success
Speaker 1: in the slot. I think he's really good at high pointing.
Speaker 1: I think he's really good at you know, catching balls
Speaker 1: over dbs um and so a lot of times, especially
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve, if he's against going from a line,
Speaker 1: band always throws that in there going sorry, going against
Speaker 1: the safety. I mean he can out physical those guys. Um.
Speaker 1: So he really did most of his damage at the slot.
Speaker 1: High catch rate, not a lot of drops. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna help you out in the right. He didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of red zone uh production first there, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't think because he didn't have he doesn't have quickness.
Speaker 1: It really is about extension and read size and size.
Speaker 1: It makes him so good in the slot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just TV scouting right now. Yeah. No, he has a
Speaker 1: knack for you know, getting at the highest point over
Speaker 1: the dB and that's that's his game. And so I
Speaker 1: do have some questions about how it's gonna exactly translate
Speaker 1: to the NFL. But uh yeah, let's dig into him
Speaker 1: deeper today, yeah player, Yeah, well you kind of just
Speaker 1: put a blanket on my enthusiasm. But that's okay. Why
Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why? Well, you think about if you're
Speaker 1: drafting a receiver that's really gonna help Dak Prescott, you
Speaker 1: need a guy like guy catches a football that'll help
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Sure is hell catches the football. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who can generate a ton of
Speaker 1: separation with his route running. We talked about that with
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. We not that's a strength of Amari Cooper's sure,
Speaker 1: And we talked about this last year, like, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to Lakwan Treadwell, weren't we like enough of
Speaker 1: the enough of the guy that's just gonna out athlete,
Speaker 1: You give me a technician and that based on everything
Speaker 1: Dane just said, that doesn't really sound like la Jordan
Speaker 1: Humphreys game, not yet. And you saw him. He was
Speaker 1: at running back. I watched I did his game when
Speaker 1: he was at South Lake? Is it running back? And
Speaker 1: like when I was doing cop Hill High School football
Speaker 1: and they're playing South south Lake, Carol. And it's always
Speaker 1: tough when you talk about unrefined receivers. You know, McCole Hardman,
Speaker 1: a guy that we've talked about earlier today out of Georgia.
Speaker 1: He was his route. I mean there are no routes there.
Speaker 1: He was an option quarterback in Oh Yeah. He can run,
Speaker 1: though gosh, can you run? Speed is ridiculous? It is
Speaker 1: if you're undersized, you're underfined. You better be an elite athlete.
Speaker 1: He is, and I don't use the word elite a lot.
Speaker 1: He is an elete athlete. He kills the angles. You
Speaker 1: can't get an angle on him. No, pursuing eagles, we
Speaker 1: get about it. Yeah, if you're safe, you're trying to
Speaker 1: rally to get to him. No, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm being him in the slot and trying
Speaker 1: to develop him there. I'd love to see. I'm hands
Speaker 1: are bad, No, and he can help his return man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said the Georgia record this past year for I
Speaker 1: think he averaged twenty yards per punt return. That's okay, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I'm a scout and I'm going to work him out,
Speaker 1: I'm working him out of a corner as well, just
Speaker 1: to see how he does. What's his pedal look like?
Speaker 1: What can he do it? He did this on purpose?
Speaker 1: Get me? This is scout man coming out of him.
Speaker 1: Now he's Scott. I'd love to see it. You think, okay,
Speaker 1: you think he'd be better slot player, a better corner.
Speaker 1: I'm keeping him a corner or I'm in the slot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep him with the ball in his hands,
Speaker 1: and that's where he can be most explosive. Sure, but
Speaker 1: again I'm also working out of corner just to see
Speaker 1: what I have because if it doesn't work out of
Speaker 1: wide receiver, if the routes don't happen, yeah, I can
Speaker 1: see the just the route running is just not there.
Speaker 1: It's like him just getting open or trying to find
Speaker 1: space to get open. I think the combination routes and
Speaker 1: things like that. He played corner his freshman year at Georgia,
Speaker 1: and then I think they got a little impatient because
Speaker 1: he wanted the ball. This is a guy not used
Speaker 1: to not having the ball. Again, a quarterback in high
Speaker 1: school for four seasons, he was not used to not
Speaker 1: having the football a season at Georgia's freshman year, not
Speaker 1: getting the football kind of bothered him. They moved the
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I mean there was a lot of
Speaker 1: mouths to feed on that offense. So Riley, Ridley, McCole,
Speaker 1: Hardman not a lot of production. But both those guys
Speaker 1: are too gosh. Ridley, bring him on. Different from this
Speaker 1: brother though, bring him on. Different looking guy, physically, different
Speaker 1: looking guy. I did a little bit of research on this. Uh.
Speaker 1: The last wide receiver drafted top fifty who did not
Speaker 1: have a single season of six hundred receiving ards are
Speaker 1: more in college any and he guesses, oh boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it. Uh, I just just write
Speaker 1: us off. Sorry too, all right, I'll give you your
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and eight Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: Eddie Royal very good had a nice NFL career, did
Speaker 1: he did, Edie Royal? Good looking guy physically too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He never had six over six hundred yards receiving at
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and he went somewhere in the forties, I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it didn't happen. Yeah, it doesn't happen often, you know,
Speaker 1: with that lack of production. But Riley really could do
Speaker 1: it this year. I don't think Hardman's gonna get in
Speaker 1: the top fifty. But he did not have six hundred
Speaker 1: yards receiving in any season Georgia. So those Georgia receivers
Speaker 1: are really really interesting, and there'll be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a divide between the guys that value production and
Speaker 1: the guys that value the traits. In the last two minutes,
Speaker 1: what position has what gives you the most confidence in
Speaker 1: the first round if you had to take of all
Speaker 1: your first round grades, what position is the pass rushers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything I've heard is more defensive tackle, which I mean
Speaker 1: technically they rushed the passer too. But give me the guys.
Speaker 1: So you're saying Bosa, Alan Sweat Farrell, that kind of
Speaker 1: group and then polite Burns and yeah, no, give me Bosa.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't better than william Simmons and Wilkins, Right,
Speaker 1: Bosa is the best player in the draft, all right,
Speaker 1: Like that's done. Deal, Yeah, he is the best player
Speaker 1: in the draft. Okay, So you start with that, and
Speaker 1: then you get Josh all Like. I like Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: I don't he's gonna go high. He might go two
Speaker 1: or three in this draft. I think there's a big
Speaker 1: drop off after Bosa and Williams. Quinn and Williams from Alabama.
Speaker 1: Those two guys are number one and two, and then
Speaker 1: there's a drop off, Like this draft doesn't really have
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Simmons you didn't, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just talked about Simmons a bunch. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he belongs in the top ten. But this draft doesn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that you think are no
Speaker 1: brainer top seven eight picks. I think Bosa and Williams
Speaker 1: both qualify as no brain or top seven or eight picks.
Speaker 1: After that, there's some question mark, where do you put
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks in this draft? Mur Murphy Baker, Greedy Williams Williams,
Speaker 1: Where do you put those guys? I don't know they
Speaker 1: I struggle with both of them. Well, Greedy and so
Speaker 1: you're not Yeah you're not. I like them, but it's
Speaker 1: just they play an important position, and I there's things
Speaker 1: I like about both of them. I just wonder like
Speaker 1: neither of them have a higher grade than like a
Speaker 1: Denzel Award from last year. Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're true top ten guys, but they're gonna get pushed up.
Speaker 1: He's again, this draft doesn't have a lot of true
Speaker 1: top ten players. They get pushed up. But how much?
Speaker 1: Forget quarterback because it's always separate. But right, what's the
Speaker 1: worst position at the top of the board. It seems
Speaker 1: like it would be inside linebacker. I was thinking receiver.
Speaker 1: There's no receivers if we think if you're right, am
Speaker 1: I right that? Honestly, I didn't have a first round
Speaker 1: receiver unless you unless you really like maybe safety, right receiver,
Speaker 1: I think, well, we're running back. Um, yeah too, Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 1: I think Jacobs Jacobs. Yeah, if you need an offensive
Speaker 1: playmaker in this draft, how pissed off are you right now?
Speaker 1: I honestly there are a lot of team not a lot,
Speaker 1: but there I know there are some teams who look
Speaker 1: at mark Marky's Brown from Oklahoma's he a top fifteen pick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Just the explosiveness. Yeah, he's like the kid that at
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame that Houston took, right, I mean would
Speaker 1: that be the comparable player? Right? Yeah? Yeah, because that
Speaker 1: type of player slight. He's DeShawn Jackson man, which you
Speaker 1: know and it's not just a speed but it's the
Speaker 1: tracking skill. Yeah, he's a true legit deep threat. And
Speaker 1: then DK Metcalf he's a freak. He's six four two
Speaker 1: and you know, almost two hundred thirty pounds. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna run on four four right, and you know he's unrefined.
Speaker 1: He needs to be better at the catch point. But man,
Speaker 1: the freakish quality is given not huge upside. I'm he's
Speaker 1: inside linebackers with Devin White and Wilson Alabama, there's another guy.
Speaker 1: There's another inside linebacker that's getting well. He told you
Speaker 1: about the kid from Hawaii. No, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Devin Bush Or. Yes, he's an inside guy.
Speaker 1: I think as an outside guy. Yeah, he's If he
Speaker 1: was two inches taller and longer, he'd we'd be talking
Speaker 1: about top ten. He's legit. Guys, time goes fasting. Devin
Speaker 1: could play will couldn't he? Yeah, he's got the speed
Speaker 1: to do that. I think, fast as hell. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't. I worry about him in coverage a little bit,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, that's fair. He ripped that ball out
Speaker 1: that Williams kid handed. Any playmaker man as a playmaker. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, that's all the time we have for
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Speaker 1: to ease and then this off season, but uh no,
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