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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us Well, well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the draft show here at the SWBC

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Speaker 1: back side, to be back side, to have my tape

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl in number of years. Absolutely, And yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: sounds terrible. I am a big Dak Prescott fan. I'm

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Speaker 1: all in favor of the Cowboys paying him. Right there

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Speaker 1: is an argument to be made you if you trust

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Speaker 1: yourself to find another one, if you got Dame Burglers

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Speaker 1: in your room, then you could sustain success over a

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Speaker 1: long period of time by not paying a quarterback. Which

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Speaker 1: goes back to my question again, we can we can

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Speaker 1: go into full that'd be a full another show for

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Speaker 1: that one. But how many quarterbacks in this draft class

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Speaker 1: would you feel comfortable drafting in the top ten one one,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even honestly, I don't even feel great

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Speaker 1: about that. You don't feel great about Haskins. I like Haskins,

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Speaker 1: I don't love him. I'm great, Okay, great, might be

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Speaker 1: it's stretched, but I feel relatively confident that he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good player based on basically nothing. But I

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Speaker 1: just one quarterback, only one, and I don't even feel

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Speaker 1: great about that. I don't. I mean, I like Dayne Haskins,

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Speaker 1: but he ain't making that trade? All right? Well, and

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Speaker 1: do you really like nothing? No offense against this group,

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Speaker 1: but do you trust them to pick a quarterback at ten? Overall?

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Speaker 1: If I was picking in that room, you shouldn't trust me.

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Speaker 1: I mean this for sure. This team tried to draft Packston,

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Speaker 1: Lynch and Connor Cook before they fell into Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: Although I will say, oh yeah, that is a good point.

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Speaker 1: They tried everything possible to not draft Dak the true

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Speaker 1: but then they fired the guy they helped draft him.

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Speaker 1: Their track record in the first round is really good, Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you weigh that out? I mean, because I

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Speaker 1: have a quarterbacks a different animal exactly. You have to

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Speaker 1: remove quarterback from the conversation. And if there's a quarterback

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Speaker 1: it's available at ten, there's probably a reason he's there. Well,

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Speaker 1: so if you're a team at six, all right, if

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Speaker 1: you're a team that needs quarterback, okay, let's do any

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Speaker 1: team you're You're not, if you're any team, you're Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: You're not. You're just gonna You're just not gonna. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna draft one of these guys. No, there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance the Giants pass. No, there's a good chance the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars go with the Folds or Flacco off, like, and

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Speaker 1: it's already made. It's frustrating because I want the answer now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like this is all going to change in two months,

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Speaker 1: Like somebody that needs a quarterback right now won't need

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Speaker 1: one in mid March. I'm working on I have a

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Speaker 1: mock coming out on Monday day after the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and I don't I don't do with these quarterbacks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyler Murray is the ultimate wild card. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones received a first round grade from the Advisory Committee. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Drew Locke, I've heard a lot of positive reports from scouts.

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Speaker 1: They're optimistic about him. And then you have Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: So four quarterbacks. Good chance they'll go first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you're not feeling great about is it's I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: and I have I have barely seen any of these

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Speaker 1: But like, no way not for quarterback desperation does not

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Speaker 1: because the quarterback class next year looks real, real good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is fitting because we just sort of

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Speaker 1: who do we Clark? You serious? Clark? Serious? Clark? Who

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Speaker 1: do we think will be the biggest reach in this draft? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're just getting into the meat of it in January.

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Speaker 1: I think it starts with it. I mean a quarterbacks quarterbacks, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know Kyler Murray goes number one overall. I

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Speaker 1: mean there's a ground swell of opinion that Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: if he goes to the the Raiders at four Z that

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Speaker 1: a reach. I think so, but you know he's he's

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Speaker 1: a true wild card because I mean, am I crazy?

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Speaker 1: If I'd rather like I think I'd rather take a

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Speaker 1: chance that Kyler Murray is not a reach than one

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Speaker 1: of these Senior Bowl guys. I get it, Like you're

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Speaker 1: going with the going with the higher upside. I know

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Speaker 1: it is such a mistake to associate a program with

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Speaker 1: a player. I get that, I understand, But like, all

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Speaker 1: I can think about is Blaine Gabbert. That's all I

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Speaker 1: can think of. You guys are gonna Dane. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna like me for this. But I think that Florida

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Speaker 1: defensive end Polite White, if some he takes him in

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Speaker 1: the first round, I think he's got heartbreaker written all

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Speaker 1: over him. But I might get in trouble for saying that. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I might get in troubled

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Speaker 1: that he might. He might turn out to be Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be Bosa. But you never said

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa was gonna be a heartbreaker. I never said

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Speaker 1: had him as a top ten player on my thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I hated the guy, I wouldn't be shocked if

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Speaker 1: Polite is the player we're talking about. Yeah, Florida, if

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Speaker 1: he had double digit saxes rookie year. Oh see, this

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Speaker 1: is this is the fun thing, that this is the

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Speaker 1: fun side of scouting when you have one guy that

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Speaker 1: kind of I have. I have a second round grade

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Speaker 1: on him, and you've got him in your top twelve, right, fifteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, that's what I'm saying. I just

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Speaker 1: it's got to be a quarterback, because I think we

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Speaker 1: went about Oliver Oliver, the defensive tackle from Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can justify in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I mean, but people are gonna compare him. Did you

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Speaker 1: see Lance Zeroline talking about moving him to linebacker? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not great like people keep an open mind

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Speaker 1: with No, He's always keep an open mind. Was scouting always.

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Speaker 1: I was not bringing it up to suggest that it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting. Yeah, exactly, And I think

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Speaker 1: it's scouts are kind of they don't know what to

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Speaker 1: do with that Oliver because he's when they went through

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Speaker 1: Houston in October, he was two hundred and seventy four pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and looking at his body type, they really question can

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Speaker 1: he hold to eighty comfortably? Yea? And so is he

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Speaker 1: a true interior player in the NFL? Can he? Mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a big jump facing AC offensive lines compared to

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Speaker 1: NFL offensive lines or would he be better. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he can do it, but is he better

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Speaker 1: suited trying to drop some weight and playing in a

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Speaker 1: different position. I don't think he's an end because I

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Speaker 1: don't think he does in the length. When long arm

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Speaker 1: blockers get into him, he struggles, So I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's a defensive end. I'm keeping him as close to

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Speaker 1: the ball as possible, but I understand those are keeping

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Speaker 1: an open mind about maybe moving around a little bit,

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Speaker 1: so I look, I get it people they had Oliver

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Speaker 1: discussion debate. It's gonna get tired after a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's a good football player who I'm

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Speaker 1: just keeping as close to the ball as possible. And

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Speaker 1: I understand the concerns. He's not Aaron Donald. It's an

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Speaker 1: he is. You never got to scout le Roy Glover,

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Speaker 1: he reminds me he's got some traits like the change

632
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: of direction, you know, the ability to chase the feed

633
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: blocker right off the snap. Those are the things le

634
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: Roy Glover was able to do. Roy Glover, though, wasn't

635
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Well that's but but you know

636
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: he played, he played. He was a like a three

637
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: technique undertackle that Bill Parcels put it nose. He made

638
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls and nose as usual at this time

639
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: of year. I've seen him slotted everywhere between like fifth

640
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: overall and the back end of the first round. So see,

641
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That might rounder. Yeah, San Diego State. No.

642
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: And I think you know I was talking. I was

643
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: doing Um Brown's radio this morning and talking about options

644
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: at seventeen thousand radio shows you do today, I try

645
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: to cut down. I gotta get some work done at seventeen.

646
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned at Oliver's a real possibility, and they're, what, No,

647
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: he's a top ten He easily be there at seventeen.

648
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: And if he is, he'd be that'd be not a

649
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: bit fit for them up more. Okay, is he the

650
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: polarizing player on defense. Is he the one that's gonna

651
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: be if we have if we have the quarterback, the

652
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray as the offensive guy, who is

653
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: who's the defensive guy. I don't know. You just you

654
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: think polite is a bust and he thinks he's a

655
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: rookie of the Year. I didn't call m a bus.

656
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: I said, I thought he was like a second round guy. Yeah,

657
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean I think he's in that man. I mean,

658
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: I think Dexter Lawrence. Dexter Lawrence another one. People are

659
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: gonna be all over the map on him. I haven't

660
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: a second round grade on him. Yeah, well I do too,

661
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: So he might end up like one of those Washington guys.

662
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, the Redskins strapped those Alabama kids and nexting

663
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: you know they're like playing going to test well. So no,

664
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: I think this this draft. We don't say this every year,

665
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: but I mean this draft, more than other drafts, I think,

666
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: is more wide variants of opinions on a lot of it.

667
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: You know, there's no clear cut he's the top this

668
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: or you know he's not. He's the top pastro or

669
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: I think Nick Boss top pass rusher. But he's the

670
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: top tackle, he's the top wide receiver, he's the top

671
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: tight end. There's a lot of different opinions, you know,

672
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Noah Fan, t J. Hawkinson, Which one do you prefer? So,

673
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot. Who's the top linebackers? It

674
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: Devin White, which, okay, you're given me, you're given me

675
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: in a segue here, which trying we're trying to get

676
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: to the people's questions. So yeah, yeah, that was a

677
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: great Converni Ministro says ministro Or is it maestro? It

678
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: says Ministro Instron. I like it when people use their

679
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: real names. But that's uh, pre combine, he says, pre combine.

680
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: We're there, best slot, best tight end, best three tech,

681
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: best tight end, and draft that's what he says. P CJ. Hawkinson. Yeah,

682
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: it's Hawkinson, Iowa, Iowa or Fan It depends on which.

683
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I also yea and Fan. Fan's gonna blow up the combine.

684
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: He's gonna jump feet one inches and he's gonna test

685
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, I think TJ. Hawkins is the best

686
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: tight in Yeah, but both tight ends could easily go

687
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: in the first round, which has never happened before, you know,

688
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: from the same program. So now that's possibility. Top slot.

689
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I think some of these wide receivers

690
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: could play in this slot. But if we're talking about

691
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: a true slot player, it's gotta be your guy, you

692
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: mash right, I don't like, do you consider Deebo Samuel slot? See,

693
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and that's I love, I love.

694
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I would take Samuel over. That's the bell every day.

695
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's tough because you're talking about, well

696
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: he can do both or a true slot receiver a J.

697
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: Brown and will Miss. That's all he did, That's all

698
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: he all he did was he's absolutely right about that. Well,

699
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think you can project outside, but you

700
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: could just plug him in a slot and you'd be okay. Yeah,

701
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I think the slot questions a little.

702
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: It's a little tough because I think a lot of

703
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: these guys could play in the slot just fine. I

704
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: mean even the guy like nikkil Harry played the slot

705
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: in college. Yeah, he could do it. Yeah, so tall

706
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: guy doing that though, if we're talking about slot only, yeah, Isabella, yeah,

707
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Isabella then Hart, Penny Hart, Yeah, I would say both

708
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: those guys I think are right there. What about the

709
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: three tech Oliver. It's gotta be Oliver right now, right?

710
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: What are you gonna play Gary? He's he's an edge.

711
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. You're not gonna play him, and

712
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna transplay. There's zero tape on him inside. You're

713
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: projecting guys to play that. You're you're you're projecting a

714
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver at Georgia to play corner. But why are

715
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: we moving him inside? Why are we moving him inside?

716
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm just asking why are we moving him inside? I

717
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: don't know, man, because he's two hundred and eighty five

718
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: pounds and I see how he wins on the first step. Yeah,

719
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: he's got but he's got the Do you see him

720
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: as a right end or a left end? He can

721
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: play either. He's got the power. He plays with quickness.

722
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean, why why can't he not play either side? See?

723
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, But I think though I look,

724
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I am upset. I thought I saw it.

725
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: There were some snaps where they reduced him down inside.

726
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it was against Northwestern or somebody like that.

727
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: He was I'm not I'm not trying to just guess. No,

728
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean he played something like like ninety seven percent

729
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: snaps as an end as an end, something like that.

730
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: So he did. There were a few snaps inside, but

731
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: predominantly he is. He's a really good player too. Brian,

732
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna hate this question from Braden, which is why

733
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to check and really fast wide receivers to

734
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: play corner. Nicole Hartman, Hartman, I know, I know you're

735
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna hate this. Yeah, Brad says you've got a d tackle,

736
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: a tight end, and a safety, all similarly rated available

737
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: at fifty eight. Pie in the sky. This cowboys, right? Yeah, sure,

738
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: all cowboys right? Who are you taking defensive tackle? Didn't

739
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: even hesitate. This team's got issues. There is that they

740
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: had issues. There isn't act. It is that recency bias

741
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: because they got owned by the Rams at all. Look

742
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: at you don't think they played well more off in

743
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: the not during the season. Yeah, but look at the

744
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: condition of Okay, do you want to continue to go

745
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: on with Reid Ross no banged up and whose contract

746
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: is up next year? Do you want to keep moving

747
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Crawford inside to tackle? I do not, okay, but I

748
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: always better you better figure out what's and Dave and

749
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: David Irving gave you absolutely nothing this year. I really

750
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: like the idea of having a better safety back there though.

751
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh we could get one from the Great Northwest if

752
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: you want. Whose home is. He's not from the Great Northwest.

753
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: He made a career playing in the Great Northwest. Well, okay,

754
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: but that's we're just assuming the team is the team

755
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: right now? What do you think you fix this? You

756
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: fix the three So it's hard to say position like

757
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: I need to know players, you know, Like that's I

758
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: know it's y'all are gonna hate the question because he's

759
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: basically saying, which of those three positions you take? Chillery

760
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: over over whatever? Second round I'm trying to think of

761
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: a second round safety that I saw, like a wan Thornhill. Yeah,

762
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, I've only done a few of those safeties,

763
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: but I don't have anybody Atterie is the one guy

764
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: I've done. Yeah, but okay, Tillery and then who else?

765
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: We come about? Tight end? Yeah, which I have Sternberger.

766
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: I look from an m okay, yeah, question you you

767
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: probably like you said, what's the bad guy? Right? Is

768
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: something going on with Hillary? Here's character stuff? You? Um,

769
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: which one is he? Sorry? Yeah? Um, I'm with you.

770
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I'd lean d tackle in terms of I think they're

771
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: a mess here right now right and not because they

772
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: got gashed and against Colts and Rams. Oh, I hear you.

773
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: They need they need depth there and then well we're

774
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: preferably a better starter. Malie Collins isn't a contractor year

775
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: like I get it. I'm not. He's been banged up,

776
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: playing as best he can banged up. But you got

777
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: the human log in there playing well too true. I know,

778
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I feel I'm sorry if you're nude to our show.

779
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: I feel good about this year's D tackle class where

780
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: if I don't get a guy in the second round,

781
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: I feel good about the guy and get a third.

782
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: I find get Dale and Mac in the third round.

783
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: Daniel real because he's gonna put up some Daleen Mac

784
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: highlights where you're right here, En, I mean, I bet

785
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: she does that. Aggies fans watching along with us. Aggies

786
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: fans know all about him. A guy who was highly recruited,

787
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: didn't that there. It is the way he played this

788
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: year and at the Senior Bowl. You know it's again

789
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: my Javon Hargrave comparison I think makes sense. Also, I know,

790
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean the difference between fifty eight and sixty seven

791
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: is not much. I understand that that's where Malie Collins

792
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: was drafted, but I I got to see the Cowboys

793
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: use their first available pick on a defensive tack. They

794
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: want to believe that they would do they would never

795
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: use a first round pick on a defensive tackle. Which

796
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: but but they're smart as they do because no, well

797
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: are they? Well? It depends because I mean the Vita

798
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: Vea picks a first round pick not looking great right,

799
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: that last year not looking great? Right? Because I did,

800
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: You're not, You're don't. Don't. Don't use a first round

801
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: pick on a guy who can only play two downs.

802
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: You didn't like to be You're right now, you're right. No,

803
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: I just if I'm gonna take a defensive tackle on

804
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: the first you want to cook your gold star. I

805
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: need passed rush. That's but point, okay, give me pass rush,

806
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: give your pass rush. And so that's why you know,

807
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: so you would rather take one of these defensive INDs.

808
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: Didn't didn't say a defensive tackle like Burns, Well, no,

809
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 1: but Florida State. If I'm taking a defensive tackle like him, okay,

810
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: and at Oliver Christian Wilkins, Draymond Jones like it makes

811
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: sense in the first round. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm fine

812
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: waiting until the third or fourth round to deal with

813
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: that about Yeah, you said we didn't mention Wren. He

814
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: had a good week. And Saunders, we talked about him

815
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: a little bit, Suders, Caitlin. Saunders helped himself, so I did.

816
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Last year. Weren't there a bunch of really good one techniques?

817
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: We kept shilling four, Yes, we kept shilling for Remember

818
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: of the draft. Carbridge were like, well, I gotta take

819
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: Pounaford here, don't they? Podad I said, Punaford's named seventy

820
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: five times. Decent, had a pretty decent little season for

821
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. An undrafted Yeah, as we're trying, oh what

822
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Seahawks or just not Dane Dane Brugler. Most of us

823
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: brought us, Yeah, most of us on the outside pouting

824
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Ford a good tape. He's a good player. He just

825
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: didn't get it. We saw check live, We saw him live.

826
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: He's short exactly. The d tackle for this team is

827
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: the great, the great vexation like it's it's gonna be

828
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: a yearly thought. Yeah, I know, that's that's a big

829
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: polar vexation, big word for you if I would the

830
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: same place you would. He could have made that up

831
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: and I'd be Yeah, sounds ramon guys. Frustration. It's a

832
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: frustrating thing to talk about. Okay, thanks Dave. You can

833
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: talk about until you're blue in the face. That doesn't

834
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna change the way they see it. I

835
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, I would have to see them use

836
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: fifty eight on a d tackle to believe it. And

837
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Speaker 1: it's not saying that they won't or they can't, but

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00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: I just got to see it. I just what position

839
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: would surprise you at fifty eight? I'm not saying take

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Speaker 1: out quarterback. Take quarterback At the minute I wrote about

841
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: that this week is nothing they are running back running

842
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: back would not wouldn't surprise me at all, would not

843
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: surprise me at all they did. They got nothing from

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Speaker 1: their back cups this year, and and look around the

845
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: league at at what some of these backup running backs

846
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: are doing. I mean Alvin Kamara is, strictly speaking, is

847
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: a backup. He's a third round. You get, you get

848
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Speaker 1: a guy with a different skill set than Zeke who

849
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Speaker 1: can run inside but also catch the ball. Uh. Curtis

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00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Samuel comes to mind. Like there are guys out there

851
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: who who could compliment Zeke? Who you know, it actually

852
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: makes sense to take Zeke off the field from time

853
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: to time instead of, you know, you take Zeke off

854
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: the field on this team right now you're like, oh

855
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: my god, what are they doing? Like what, who's who's what?

856
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: What's going on? Whereas if you were to spend that

857
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: pick on a guy to help Zeke all of a sudden,

858
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 1: that looks pretty nice. It wouldn't surprise me one bit. Wow,

859
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: that would say not saying I think there's better ways

860
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: you can use that you would you would you bash

861
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: them if they took a running back at fifty eight?

862
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely I would. It's poor use of your management. Yeah, exactly.

863
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: Look and if they got Devin Singletary, who's my number

864
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: two back and all that, if you bash them for Singletary,

865
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I'd bash you. Well, he's look at la Seawan McCoy

866
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: type of player, Damn son NFL rushing champ, that type

867
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: of player. He's really good. But again we talk about

868
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: using your assets. I don't think it's a wise move.

869
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's only gonna get X amount of touches.

870
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: And unless you are already if you're saying, Okay, you

871
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna move on from Zeke winn as

872
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: contracts though, you know, like maybe if you're thinking that

873
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: far ahead, yeah, maybe, but I don't know, man, it's

874
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's dumb to compare even, but like

875
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: it's working pretty well for Ingram and Kamara and we'll

876
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: see you like if Ingram has a future in New

877
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 1: Orleans because his contracts. You're also baking on drafting Kamara

878
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: fifty also beat up. That's that's that's like a team

879
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: saying we'll wait till the fourth to get Dak Do

880
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: I think? Do I to trade him earlier? You didn't

881
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: want to do that. I do not think pick fifty

882
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 1: eight would be the best I don't think that would

883
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: be the best way to use pick fifty eight, But

884
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: I would not be shocked, especially if it fell that

885
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: way if the absolute best player on your board was

886
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Speaker 1: a running back, especially you're supposedly bringing in a new

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00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: young offensive coordinator who's gonna shake things up, Like, well,

888
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: maybe hey, Kellen Moore, all right, love something with this

889
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: badass running back. Look at the Rams A team in

890
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Todd Gurley went down, They signed CG.

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00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: Anderson off the street. I hear you, very good. I

892
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: hear you. There's an offensive line there too. By the way, Wait, okay,

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00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: I know there's a one here too. We sucked today.

894
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: We only answered like three questions, but I gotta I

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Speaker 1: gotta get to one from job. Can we catch it

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Speaker 1: after now? You know I would catch it. Let's just Twitter,

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Speaker 1: we have one more question. I do want to take

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Speaker 1: like that. Dave News Oh sorry, yeah, well our buddy

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Speaker 1: Tom Pella sero, which excuse me, NFL network gonna be good. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know it's super Bowl week, but Draft News never stopped.

958
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: So you know the rule that the the NFL put

959
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: in place, you know, they can bar you from the

960
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: combine for past violence incidents, right, Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon, Yeah,

961
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 1: famous story about that. Yeah, it sounds like as he's reporting,

962
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: there's only two known guys that that that applies to

963
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: this year, and it's it's Mississippi State d tackle Jeffrey

964
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Simmons and Colorado State receiver Preston Williams. Is they're not

965
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: being in by it to the combine. Dane, I'm positive

966
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: you can tell me about Williams. I think anybody that

967
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: follows the draft knows that Simmons is, you know, a

968
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: top ten fifteen here's my second defensive tackles behind Williams

969
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: in Alabama. He's a big time prospect. So that's something

970
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. This is a dumb rule,

971
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: like not trying to justify anything. Bad, bad decision they made. Yeah,

972
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: but the combine is for a chance for these teams.

973
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: It's to figure these guys out, you know. And part

974
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: of this interview process, and so I's doing is make

975
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: an extra work for the teams to go. It's not

976
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: like they're gonna A team's not gonna draft one of

977
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: these guys because they're not the combine. Not being at

978
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: the combine is not going to change anything for these

979
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: teams looking at these players now, their way of making

980
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: a stand and I get you, I'm not. I'm not.

981
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: It's a by product of the combine has become so

982
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: much more than the Combine. It is. Yeah, it is

983
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the must see event of the NFL offseason. There's live television,

984
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: you know, for people that aren't true draft knicks. It's

985
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: the first time you come from start hearing the name

986
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: any of these guys, and and it's it's glorified to

987
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: a degree, you know, like NFL Networks at the Super

988
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: Bowl they're interviewing all these guys. They do the same

989
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: thing at the combine, and it's a bad look for

990
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: the league to have these guys. They're getting this publicity.

991
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I do agree

992
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: with you, that's not the point. They don't want the

993
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: domestic violence questions being asked. Well, they don't. They don't

994
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: want those guys to get the publicity and the potential

995
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: glorification I get. And they'll get it undrafted, of course

996
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: they will. But Simmons is still gonna be a first

997
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: rund pick. Of course he is. But to your point

998
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: is that's what the NFL does. Like they do everything

999
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Speaker 1: they can to make all of their events not about

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Speaker 1: the league, if that makes sense, you know, Like they

1001
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: don't care that these teams need to get these guys

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Speaker 1: information and make as informed and decisions. It's always been

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Speaker 1: that way. It cares, they care about what it looks

1004
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: like for them, and so like, well, sorry, you're gonna

1005
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: have to go to Starkville and figure this out for yourself. Yeah,

1006
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: and teams will all yeah, I mean all three of

1007
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: two teams are gonna go get digging and find out homework.

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00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I think it's stupid because it undermines the true purpose

1009
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: of the combine. That's exactly, that's that's my point. But

1010
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, these teams have infinite resources to

1011
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: spend and none of them are going to bat an

1012
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Speaker 1: eyelash at flying a guy to Starkfield. So no, no, no,

1013
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: of course they'll take care of it. No, it's it's

1014
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: more pr than anything. But yeah, it is a it

1015
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Speaker 1: is a vapid not sorry to use another sat word

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Speaker 1: on you, but it's it's just pure pr like that.

1017
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Speaker 1: It's pure. They only care about the looks. Yes, and

1018
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's frustrating for the thirty two staffs that

1019
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: have to try to get a beat on these guys.

1020
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Speaker 1: And everybody can see through it, like well, I mean,

1021
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: the combine has always been the place where the head

1022
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Speaker 1: coach now has a chance to talk to you. The

1023
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Speaker 1: general manager with their general manager doesn't go on the road.

1024
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's some teams that have general managers or

1025
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Speaker 1: directors a player personel that that don't go on the road.

1026
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: And so now you're taking that opportunity away from you

1027
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: know it, maybe the pre combine meeting, someone goes as

1028
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: this kid Simmons from Mississippi, State. Oh, man, tape looks great. Well, yeah,

1029
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: he's got album. So what kind of problems? Oh we

1030
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: got this hanging over. Okay, we're gonna get to talk

1031
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: to this guy. Oh no, we can't because they're not

1032
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: bringing him to the combine. And now you're now you're

1033
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: in a mode where you're going, Okay, why why are

1034
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: they not bringing him to the combine? You know? So

1035
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 1: both both players were arrested for physical altercations with a woman,

1036
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Speaker 1: Simmons in twenty sixteen, Williams in twenty seventeen. Yea and Williams.

1037
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Speaker 1: Preston Williams. He was a top recruit out of it.

1038
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: Went to Tennessee. Uh, didn't last long, transferred to Colorado State.

1039
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: He got in trouble at Tennessee, got in trouble at

1040
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: Colorado State. Uh, he'll be off draft boards, a lot

1041
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: of draft boards, and we be if it wasn't for

1042
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: the off field, we're talking about him as a first

1043
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Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, he's that type of talent. Um So

1044
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: is he like our Florida guy last year? Caliah. I

1045
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: thought I didn't think Callaway was like a I thought

1046
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: he was like a second rounder. Yeah, but he was

1047
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: a high up there guy. Yeah, yeah, but this guy's

1048
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: a first rounder pick, this guy's a first um. It's

1049
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: just it's the all fields. It's it's that bad, so

1050
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: good chance he doesn't go top one hundred and someone

1051
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: won't take a chance on on Day three, the criminal round,

1052
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: fourth round, probably since An a Bengal. That's it's I

1053
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: struggle a team. I struggle to find the Yeah, they are,

1054
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I struggle to find the balance. But I mean I

1055
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: on one side, I want to give the NFL some

1056
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: and kudos because I think that's that's important. They're drawing

1057
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: the line. It's important to highlight that. I think it's

1058
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: important that people know these things about these types of players.

1059
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: But again, the combine was not created to be a

1060
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 1: publicity event, not at all. You're actually hindering the purpose

1061
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: of it by not letting guys come to it. When

1062
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: I sat there in nineteen ninety two and for my

1063
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: first combine, I would have never, ever, ever dreamed that

1064
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: this was going to be on TV. Never. At the

1065
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, like I already said this, but

1066
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: I agree with day and that it's pretty dumb. But

1067
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: these teams have such a ridiculous budget. Yeah, no, they

1068
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: dig up so we waste money on all the time. Yeah,

1069
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: stupid things. It's not going to stop anybody from deciding

1070
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: whether or not they want to draft Simmons or Williams. Question.

1071
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: You said he had a question. I'll carry over that

1072
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: we wanted to get just purely selfish, purely selfish. Josh.

1073
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: Josh wants to know a player I like a lot

1074
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: a little Jordan Humphrey out of Texas. Need to watch

1075
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: him today, Dane? Can he play in the slot? I've

1076
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: seen him, but let's watch him today. I need to

1077
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: watch him today. Can he play in the slot? Dane?

1078
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: It's all he played in Texas. Let's go. I mean,

1079
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: he's bring him. He's all the slot receiver. He's that

1080
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: big slot receiver. He Have you ever seen this guy?

1081
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: I've seen him, I mean totally, you know, like I'll

1082
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: turn on a Texas game. I watched the Sugar Bowl.

1083
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: He makes he just he makes plays. He's not He's

1084
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: not a typical slot receiver. No, not at all. And

1085
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: and why do you think he has so much success

1086
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: in the slot. I think he's really good at high pointing.

1087
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: I think he's really good at you know, catching balls

1088
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: over dbs um and so a lot of times, especially

1089
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve, if he's against going from a line,

1090
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: band always throws that in there going sorry, going against

1091
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: the safety. I mean he can out physical those guys. Um.

1092
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: So he really did most of his damage at the slot.

1093
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: High catch rate, not a lot of drops. He's not

1094
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: gonna help you out in the right. He didn't have

1095
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: a lot of red zone uh production first there, you

1096
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: wouldn't think because he didn't have he doesn't have quickness.

1097
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: It really is about extension and read size and size.

1098
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: It makes him so good in the slot. Yeah, yeah,

1099
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: just TV scouting right now. Yeah. No, he has a

1100
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: knack for you know, getting at the highest point over

1101
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: the dB and that's that's his game. And so I

1102
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 1: do have some questions about how it's gonna exactly translate

1103
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: to the NFL. But uh yeah, let's dig into him

1104
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: deeper today, yeah player, Yeah, well you kind of just

1105
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: put a blanket on my enthusiasm. But that's okay. Why

1106
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why? Well, you think about if you're

1107
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: drafting a receiver that's really gonna help Dak Prescott, you

1108
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: need a guy like guy catches a football that'll help

1109
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Sure is hell catches the football. But I'm

1110
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: talking about a guy who can generate a ton of

1111
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: separation with his route running. We talked about that with

1112
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. We not that's a strength of Amari Cooper's sure,

1113
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: And we talked about this last year, like, you know,

1114
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: going back to Lakwan Treadwell, weren't we like enough of

1115
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 1: the enough of the guy that's just gonna out athlete,

1116
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: You give me a technician and that based on everything

1117
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: Dane just said, that doesn't really sound like la Jordan

1118
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: Humphreys game, not yet. And you saw him. He was

1119
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: at running back. I watched I did his game when

1120
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: he was at South Lake? Is it running back? And

1121
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: like when I was doing cop Hill High School football

1122
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: and they're playing South south Lake, Carol. And it's always

1123
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: tough when you talk about unrefined receivers. You know, McCole Hardman,

1124
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: a guy that we've talked about earlier today out of Georgia.

1125
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: He was his route. I mean there are no routes there.

1126
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: He was an option quarterback in Oh Yeah. He can run,

1127
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: though gosh, can you run? Speed is ridiculous? It is

1128
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: if you're undersized, you're underfined. You better be an elite athlete.

1129
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: He is, and I don't use the word elite a lot.

1130
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: He is an elete athlete. He kills the angles. You

1131
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: can't get an angle on him. No, pursuing eagles, we

1132
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: get about it. Yeah, if you're safe, you're trying to

1133
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: rally to get to him. No, it just doesn't happen.

1134
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: That's why I'm being him in the slot and trying

1135
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: to develop him there. I'd love to see. I'm hands

1136
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: are bad, No, and he can help his return man. Yeah,

1137
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: he said the Georgia record this past year for I

1138
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: think he averaged twenty yards per punt return. That's okay, right, Yeah.

1139
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: If I'm a scout and I'm going to work him out,

1140
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm working him out of a corner as well, just

1141
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: to see how he does. What's his pedal look like?

1142
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: What can he do it? He did this on purpose?

1143
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Get me? This is scout man coming out of him.

1144
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Now he's Scott. I'd love to see it. You think, okay,

1145
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: you think he'd be better slot player, a better corner.

1146
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm keeping him a corner or I'm in the slot.

1147
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep him with the ball in his hands,

1148
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: and that's where he can be most explosive. Sure, but

1149
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: again I'm also working out of corner just to see

1150
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: what I have because if it doesn't work out of

1151
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver, if the routes don't happen, yeah, I can

1152
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: see the just the route running is just not there.

1153
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: It's like him just getting open or trying to find

1154
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: space to get open. I think the combination routes and

1155
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: things like that. He played corner his freshman year at Georgia,

1156
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: and then I think they got a little impatient because

1157
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: he wanted the ball. This is a guy not used

1158
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: to not having the ball. Again, a quarterback in high

1159
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: school for four seasons, he was not used to not

1160
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: having the football a season at Georgia's freshman year, not

1161
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: getting the football kind of bothered him. They moved the

1162
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I mean there was a lot of

1163
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: mouths to feed on that offense. So Riley, Ridley, McCole,

1164
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: Hardman not a lot of production. But both those guys

1165
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: are too gosh. Ridley, bring him on. Different from this

1166
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: brother though, bring him on. Different looking guy, physically, different

1167
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: looking guy. I did a little bit of research on this. Uh.

1168
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: The last wide receiver drafted top fifty who did not

1169
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: have a single season of six hundred receiving ards are

1170
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: more in college any and he guesses, oh boy, yeah,

1171
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it. Uh, I just just write

1172
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: us off. Sorry too, all right, I'll give you your

1173
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand and eight Virginia Tech.

1174
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Eddie Royal very good had a nice NFL career, did

1175
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: he did, Edie Royal? Good looking guy physically too. Yeah.

1176
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: He never had six over six hundred yards receiving at

1177
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech and he went somewhere in the forties, I believe. Yeah,

1178
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: so it didn't happen. Yeah, it doesn't happen often, you know,

1179
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: with that lack of production. But Riley really could do

1180
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: it this year. I don't think Hardman's gonna get in

1181
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: the top fifty. But he did not have six hundred

1182
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: yards receiving in any season Georgia. So those Georgia receivers

1183
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: are really really interesting, and there'll be a little bit

1184
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: of a divide between the guys that value production and

1185
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: the guys that value the traits. In the last two minutes,

1186
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: what position has what gives you the most confidence in

1187
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: the first round if you had to take of all

1188
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: your first round grades, what position is the pass rushers. Yeah,

1189
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: everything I've heard is more defensive tackle, which I mean

1190
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: technically they rushed the passer too. But give me the guys.

1191
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: So you're saying Bosa, Alan Sweat Farrell, that kind of

1192
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: group and then polite Burns and yeah, no, give me Bosa.

1193
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: To me, I don't better than william Simmons and Wilkins, Right,

1194
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: Bosa is the best player in the draft, all right,

1195
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Like that's done. Deal, Yeah, he is the best player

1196
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: in the draft. Okay, So you start with that, and

1197
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: then you get Josh all Like. I like Josh Allen.

1198
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't he's gonna go high. He might go two

1199
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: or three in this draft. I think there's a big

1200
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: drop off after Bosa and Williams. Quinn and Williams from Alabama.

1201
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Those two guys are number one and two, and then

1202
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: there's a drop off, Like this draft doesn't really have

1203
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, Simmons you didn't, I mean,

1204
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: we just talked about Simmons a bunch. Yeah, I think

1205
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: he belongs in the top ten. But this draft doesn't

1206
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that you think are no

1207
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: brainer top seven eight picks. I think Bosa and Williams

1208
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: both qualify as no brain or top seven or eight picks.

1209
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: After that, there's some question mark, where do you put

1210
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks in this draft? Mur Murphy Baker, Greedy Williams Williams,

1211
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: Where do you put those guys? I don't know they

1212
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: I struggle with both of them. Well, Greedy and so

1213
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: you're not Yeah you're not. I like them, but it's

1214
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: just they play an important position, and I there's things

1215
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: I like about both of them. I just wonder like

1216
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: neither of them have a higher grade than like a

1217
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Denzel Award from last year. Um, I don't know if

1218
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: they're true top ten guys, but they're gonna get pushed up.

1219
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: He's again, this draft doesn't have a lot of true

1220
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: top ten players. They get pushed up. But how much?

1221
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: Forget quarterback because it's always separate. But right, what's the

1222
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: worst position at the top of the board. It seems

1223
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: like it would be inside linebacker. I was thinking receiver.

1224
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: There's no receivers if we think if you're right, am

1225
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: I right that? Honestly, I didn't have a first round

1226
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: receiver unless you unless you really like maybe safety, right receiver,

1227
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: I think, well, we're running back. Um, yeah too, Josh Jacobs.

1228
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: I think Jacobs Jacobs. Yeah, if you need an offensive

1229
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: playmaker in this draft, how pissed off are you right now?

1230
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: I honestly there are a lot of team not a lot,

1231
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: but there I know there are some teams who look

1232
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: at mark Marky's Brown from Oklahoma's he a top fifteen pick? Yeah?

1233
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: Just the explosiveness. Yeah, he's like the kid that at

1234
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame that Houston took, right, I mean would

1235
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: that be the comparable player? Right? Yeah? Yeah, because that

1236
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: type of player slight. He's DeShawn Jackson man, which you

1237
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: know and it's not just a speed but it's the

1238
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: tracking skill. Yeah, he's a true legit deep threat. And

1239
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: then DK Metcalf he's a freak. He's six four two

1240
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: and you know, almost two hundred thirty pounds. Yeah, he's

1241
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna run on four four right, and you know he's unrefined.

1242
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: He needs to be better at the catch point. But man,

1243
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: the freakish quality is given not huge upside. I'm he's

1244
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: inside linebackers with Devin White and Wilson Alabama, there's another guy.

1245
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: There's another inside linebacker that's getting well. He told you

1246
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: about the kid from Hawaii. No, no, no, no, I'm

1247
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: talking about Devin Bush Or. Yes, he's an inside guy.

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Speaker 1: I think as an outside guy. Yeah, he's If he

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Speaker 1: was two inches taller and longer, he'd we'd be talking

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Speaker 1: about top ten. He's legit. Guys, time goes fasting. Devin

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Speaker 1: could play will couldn't he? Yeah, he's got the speed

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Speaker 1: to do that. I think, fast as hell. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I worry about him in coverage a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, that's fair. He ripped that ball out

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Speaker 1: that Williams kid handed. Any playmaker man as a playmaker. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, guys, that's all the time we have for

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Speaker 1: the day. God, I love this show. I look forward

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Speaker 1: to this so much every week. Tell Derek to do two.

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Speaker 1: We're fine, We're good, We're good. It's hard, it's hard

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Speaker 1: trying to we're trying to. We're trying to. We're trying

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Speaker 1: to ease and then this off season, but uh no,

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Speaker 1: the draft never rests, so we're gonna keep going after it. Again.

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody out there for joining us again. If you're new,

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Speaker 1: we thank you, we appreciate you. We hope you come

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Speaker 1: back next week and see us and make sure though

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Speaker 1: you're falling along with from Dame Burglar, always tweeting out

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Speaker 1: some good things Old DP Burglar, Dave Hellman, can't get signed,

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Speaker 1: Brian Bross. We'll see you next Thursday at eleven am

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Speaker 1: for another episode of the Draft Show, so stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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